1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: So I have a question. A lot of people understand 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: the term nil, right, yeah, but do they really understand 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: what's going on? Like do they understand about collectives? And 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Does everyone have an 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: nil deal or or does everyone has to go to 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: a collective to play? 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: So where we're at right now is a player the 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: only route that you should take, frankly, if you're looking 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: for your value. But this is a bit it's a 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: bit of a problem too. I'm all four players getting paid, 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: all four players getting paid. But imagine this when you 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: were in college season wraps up, player says to his 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: current team, all right, uh, what can you give me? Well, 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: we could give you right now. Players are asking for 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: two and a half million dollars. The good ones, the 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: good ones, not even the best. The best players are 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: getting over three million dollars right. 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: To hammer this home, to hammer this home, real thing 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: right now. 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 4: Jacoby gal just transferred and got three million from Tennessee. 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 4: Colin Gillespie on the Suns makes five hundred and sixty 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: thousand dollars a year and Tennessee plays fifty less games. 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: And he's a college kid that might not even make 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 4: it to the NBA. 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: It's the absurdity of the value there. 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: So your book, Shack, Not every person on every team 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 2: is getting that type of money. There are kids going 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: for still five hundred and six hundred thousand dollars like 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: the average ones. But the money has gotten very out 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: of control to a point that there's gotta be some regulation. 31 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: If I were to do anything, I would have a 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: kid say we gotta get a little bit collective bargaining. 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: We gotta say, hey, you can come play. You're gonna 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: make X amount of money, but there's gonna be a threshold. 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a cap, an actual salary cap to 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: even playing field a little bit right now, because we 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: could get in the territory of they're just gonna pay X, 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: so then they're gonna get championships, and that's not what 39 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: March madness was made to be. So we gotta find 40 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: a middle ground. Because what one. 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: Thing in Shaq once like two three year deals. 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: I like that, we'll pay you, but you have to come. 43 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 5: For two or three years. 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that what needs to happen. 45 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: Because I'm sure Shak, you're being asked. 46 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 5: I'm sure I told the people at LSU. 47 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm not writing you guys a check. If this guy's 48 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: not going to commit to us for two or three years, 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. 50 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: No, because here's the other thing. 51 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: I think it hurts the kid from the respect of 52 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: what happens twenty years from now. You went back to 53 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 2: your high school yesterday. You know, when you go back 54 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: to LSU, what's the alumni day look like? When you 55 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: spend four years at four different places, who do you 56 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: have allegiance to? 57 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: What are you going back to? That still matter? 58 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the high school kid because you know, 59 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: back in our time, the high school kids were highly 60 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: sold after. But now with everybody going in the transfer portal, 61 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: you get coaches like Rick Patino saying I'm not even 62 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: looking at high school kids the more I'm just going 63 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: to the porter. So I kind of, you know, feel 64 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: sorry for them. I'm with you then, and then you know, 65 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: people got to understand everybody is not a Cooper flag. No, 66 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: everybody's not a Cooper flag. So that's who I kind 67 00:02:59,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: of feel. 68 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: I agree. I want Peach Jam to matter. 69 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: I want that ten o'clock game on a Tuesday night 70 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: where kids laying their life out there trying to get 71 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: to their next stop. They're given everything they've got, and 72 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 2: now these coaches are saying, look, I'm not looking that route, 73 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: that that can't be. 74 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: So who's the highest paid? 75 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 4: I know my guy de Mansa is going to be 76 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: the highest paid for BYU. 77 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 5: Do you know the answer of whose rumored to be? 78 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: He'll end up being as highly paid as anybody. 79 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: I think that the kid are j Lewis that James 80 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: John's that if he doesn't end up going pro, and 81 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that he's a first round draft pick. 82 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: Wherever he ends up next to'll be the highest played. 83 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: And we're looking at what kind of number there? 84 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: Do you think I could see him making? I'm gonna 85 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: say also, some of the numbers are made up. I 86 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: think some of the numbers are made up. If I 87 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: were say four and a half wow, or a million dollars, 88 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: you think it's a beautiful thing. 89 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: Though, Man, I'm happy these kids are getting paid them. 90 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: Like I look at somebody like Juju, who's been an 91 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: absolute star in the women's game, and she deserves all 92 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: the flower and then she hurts herself and tears ther 93 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: acl and that could hurt. But I'm glad she's getting 94 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: money now just in case I'm also thrilled that we're 95 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: getting guys that are seniors that are not going to 96 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: go pro, like our guy Armando Baycott, who is going 97 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: to be in the Hall of Fame and is not 98 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 4: going to have a great hold on I hope he 99 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 4: does have a great NBA career, but I'm glad he 100 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: got compensated for taking his team to the Final four. 101 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: There are perks, but do you think it's okay for 102 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: a player? I'm okay with the with the guys who 103 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: are just great college players, but was it meant for 104 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: certain guys to make more money in college than they 105 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: ever will from there? 106 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: I think everybody should make the same. That's what I 107 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: think you do. Yeah, I think everybody should make the same. 108 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering does it take the edge off of 109 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: making it to the next level? Good about it? Because 110 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: I of course I played, I'll play, but I played 111 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: for this. So if you give an ato old to 112 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: seven million, will he still have that edge and that fire? 113 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't think he will. I don't think it will. 114 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: So so I don't know when you go to the 115 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: NBA and in a few years you'll be able to 116 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: make five hundred million. 117 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 5: So I think we should play pretty damn hard, but. 118 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: I think we should do something like every college athlete, 119 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: whether the big school litle school, gets twenty thousand or 120 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: month text free. 121 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 5: All right, everyone's talk about your shower routine. 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