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Speaker 3: Rob g Let's go here.

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Speaker 1: And there was big news, big news you could use

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Speaker 1: in the NFL when this afternoon, not to my surprise,

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Speaker 1: someone lost their gig, Rob Gi.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Rob, you're never wrong, You're just early. That's what

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Speaker 4: I figured out. Oh way, that kind of stuff. Hey,

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Speaker 4: I was early on this one. Two weeks after Rob

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Speaker 4: Parker demanded that he be fired, the New York Football

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Speaker 4: Giants have decided to cut ties with that Brian day Ball,

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Speaker 4: one day after they blew a ten point lead in

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Speaker 4: the last four minutes of a game for the second

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Speaker 4: time this season. All right, they've now blown four games

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Speaker 4: when leading by double digit this season. They've lost eleven

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Speaker 4: straight road games. It was all bad for Brian day Ball.

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Speaker 4: And that's not the only reason. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: you guys saw this, but Jackson Dart Prize rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 4: first round draft pick, he looks very very good. Everyone's

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Speaker 4: very excited about him. Entered into the concussion protocol for

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Speaker 4: the fourth time already this season, and San Die was

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Speaker 4: officially diagnosed with a concussion. Well, ZB plays this week,

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Speaker 4: but that is the big story. Brian Day ball out

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Speaker 4: in New York.

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Speaker 3: Kerry I called for two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: And even more after yesterday's game because it's not okay.

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Speaker 1: We could talk about the loss of the double digit

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Speaker 1: leads and the fourth quarters and the implosions and come on,

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Speaker 1: they had the Bears beat, they couldn't close the deal and.

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Speaker 3: Killer Williams played well. They should have won that game. Okay,

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Speaker 3: the Giants didn't win the game.

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Speaker 1: But my reason is because of the way he's handled

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dark Like, that's the when you look at it,

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Speaker 1: here's a desperate coach playing for his gig. He's designing

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Speaker 1: plays for this kid to run into to the defense

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Speaker 1: and lower his shoulder and all this stuff. You remember

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Speaker 1: he was in the tent yelling at the doctor. Get

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Speaker 1: him back out of there or whatever. Give him some

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Speaker 1: smell of sauce, whatever it is, like, get him out there.

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Speaker 1: That's the other part of it, that's the dangerous part.

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Speaker 1: No stop what the design plays for him to run,

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Speaker 1: and you have to be able to coach him to understand.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to get every yard carried. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to lower your shoulder and go into a defender.

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Speaker 1: It's okay to get the necessary yards and get out

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Speaker 1: of bounds or slide down to avoid. It's a long game,

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Speaker 1: a long term game. As a quarterback, it ain't about

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Speaker 1: another yard or two for you to take a big hit.

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Speaker 3: It makes no sense. I would have said, Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 3: do you.

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Speaker 1: Understand why in practice you have on a special jersey

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Speaker 1: and people know not to touch you.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason for that, all right. If it wasn't,

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Speaker 3: if it didn't matter, they wouldn't do that. Am I right?

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Speaker 1: My god, Brian day Ball, I told you two weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: pack your bags. The only bad thing is the general

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Speaker 1: managers should have gone to I don't know what they're

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Speaker 1: waiting on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but this had to happen.

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Speaker 1: The ways handled Jackson Dart and the losing and not

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Speaker 1: being able to close out games, I mean, come on

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Speaker 1: enough already.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the losing won't be tolerated with the Giants, obviously

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Speaker 5: they've been bad the last three years, had a lot

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Speaker 5: of success in their franchise though, right, and so they

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Speaker 5: such a funny thing. The NFL in life in general,

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Speaker 5: is such a fickle a fickle proposition. Right, they lost

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Speaker 5: four games leading by double digits. Right, if they won

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Speaker 5: those games, we wouldn't be having these conversations, right, So

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Speaker 5: obviously there's some mishandling with what he's doing and in

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Speaker 1: Right, for you to get a lead, for you to

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Speaker 1: have a ten point lead, exactly different if you get

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Speaker 3: And it's like, well you're just overmatched.

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Speaker 5: Yeah no, and that's good. Accept that's part of it. Right,

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Speaker 5: So operation wise, something is off. But it just shows

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Speaker 5: you the NFL though, in my opinion, Like I know

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Speaker 5: Brian dave Ball very well. He was working on the

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Speaker 5: knows football, knows how to do it. He's developed quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: And when I watched Brian Davi and you just talked

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Speaker 5: about it, it's all about ego.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to save his job.

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Speaker 5: He got his quarterback, the one that he wanted, and

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Speaker 5: so the fact that he is gone it makes sense

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Speaker 5: to me. I never want to see it happen, but

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Speaker 1: Of course, not nobody's rooting for people to lose their jobs,

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Speaker 1: but this is not You're not a Supreme Court justice

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Speaker 1: or a pope. Everybody gets whacked, Rob g how many

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Speaker 1: times have I been whacked? I've been whacked, and I'll

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Speaker 3: More times, Alex, forget about that. You know what you're

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Speaker 3: doing with that one. You're not fooling anybody. What I'm

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Speaker 1: You know how many times they told me, Rob, give

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Speaker 1: us your key and clicker?

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Speaker 3: You know what I meane? Times the station? How many

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Speaker 3: times I.

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Speaker 1: I've probably been fired about five or six times in

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Speaker 1: my career, you know, and I just say okay. I

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Speaker 1: always say this robs you on my way out? Is

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Speaker 1: the producer all right? Does he have his gig? Is

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Speaker 1: he cool? And they say, yeah, he's not going anywhere. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll leave. Okay, here's my address, send me the rest

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Speaker 1: of my money and I leave.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So I get it. You don't kick over the

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Speaker 3: trash cans. No, I'm not doing all that slamming papers

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Speaker 3: and that's knock over the pens on the way out.

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Speaker 1: When you look at me and you say, this guy

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Speaker 1: has survived forty years.

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Speaker 3: Next year's forty years.

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Speaker 1: January sixth, nineteen eighty six is when I started my career.

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Speaker 3: Forty years coming up in less than two months. You

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Speaker 3: gotta have some good relationships. Then, gotta have relationships.

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Speaker 1: You have to be able to take it on the

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Speaker 1: chin sometimes even if it's not your fault, even if

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Speaker 3: In this case, Brian dave Ball could be a great guy.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's talking about him as a father and a husband

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Speaker 1: and a guy or you want to have a beer

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Speaker 1: with yeah, but as a head football coach, no, And

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Speaker 1: it was obvious at the end. And again I said

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Speaker 1: remember the Giants got fine big by the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: so did he get fine because that was when it

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Speaker 5: And you know what's crazy about this, He finally he

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Speaker 5: got his quarterback, right, he was this is the quarterback

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Speaker 5: he went to bat for. And the GM Joe Shane

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Speaker 5: was like, no, this is Brian Dave balls pick like

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Speaker 3: Any other now, right, and now he's the guy.

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Speaker 5: That's still standing. Which is it? Just that part doesn't

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Speaker 1: It doesn't And they and they claim, like I saw

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Speaker 1: don't know, there's been a lot of mistakes. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how he's still around after the Sequans not on

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Speaker 1: the team and Daniel Jones, So just think about that,

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Speaker 1: that right there should disqualify you as GM. Now you

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Speaker 3: It's terrible, But there's a lot of bad owners and

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Speaker 3: bad management. It's just a lot.

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Speaker 5: It all stars there, Rob it does it just it

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Speaker 1: There was somebody who people have just they just want

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Speaker 1: to be right, like like they they want to be

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Speaker 1: right that they think Caleb Williams can't play like that's

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Speaker 1: it's just a I don't know, a march in order. Well,

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Speaker 1: what's the right word, A narrative that has just been

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Speaker 1: out there no matter what.

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Speaker 3: Uh you know. John Middlecoff is a former Scout, right.

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Speaker 1: I heard him say that he had he hadn't progressed

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Speaker 1: at all the last two like at all. This was

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Speaker 1: at that and said, what I hadn't progressed at all?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Then was that guy's name? Is it Dan Kelly? That

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Speaker 1: crazy scout x scalt a friend of the show, Daniel

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Speaker 1: ke Yes, we need Daniel Kelly back on. He said

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Speaker 1: he was a bust like he he what he said,

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Speaker 1: he says he's a he said he's going to be

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Speaker 1: a bust and he's a bust or something we had

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Speaker 1: him back on pre draft grade is bust bus right?

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Speaker 3: And and I'm like, and then I.

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Speaker 4: Guess, Matt, you didn't think of that. Rhy pre draft

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Speaker 4: grade would have thought of that.

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Speaker 1: And then he also like right, rob G, like was

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Speaker 1: coming up with stats to say, like the supporters thing.

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Speaker 1: Even now, even with the winds and six and three

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Speaker 1: record and the comebacks, he's still chiming with this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, how could you use that term bust right?

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Speaker 1: When you have Ryan Leeve, jamarket Russell, those are busted.

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Speaker 1: How can you even put Caleb Williams in that conversation

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Speaker 1: When Aaron Rodgers doesn't have and then Green Bay didn't

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Speaker 5: Well, Rob, he's a victim of expectations, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: They think he's different. He isn't.

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Speaker 5: He isn't your quarterback from your grand your grandfather's day

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Speaker 5: you and said, no, he's progressing at a really nice

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Speaker 5: now the teammates are speaking openly about him as well. Yes,

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Speaker 3: To get it. You know this carry you.

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Speaker 3: Carrie. At the you don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't leave the locker room during your jet stage

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Speaker 1: or Cardinals days to go, well, good, good thing, We're

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Speaker 1: only lost by five. No, nobody, because I hear people

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Speaker 3: Knicks, thank you. If people were giving bow Knicks all

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Speaker 5: And yeah, let's let's talk about how bad he's been

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Speaker 1: Nobody last year, said Jered Golf feasted on all those

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Speaker 3: They're doing this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, moving the gold balls, stop it already eight seven,

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Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox. I'm not ready to drink

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Speaker 1: anybody's bath water. Okay, it's not that kind of a

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, not on Sunday night, because my god,

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Speaker 3: He did, that's my guy. You know he looked bad.

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Speaker 1: Rob Parker Carry roads here on Fox Sports Radio and

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Speaker 1: now Let's welcome in.

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 1: Houschmann Zada, the former Pro Bowl wide receiver and co

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Speaker 3: What Up? TJ? How are you man?

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Speaker 8: I'm good? Sellers, how I'm doing?

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Speaker 3: We're doing in there? TJ?

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Speaker 1: Well, TJ uh carry and I are so excited, especially me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a believer with Caleb Williams that I had to

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Speaker 3: So here we go for Caleb Williams. And then I

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Speaker 2: I'm a believer.

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Speaker 3: And not a trace of down in my mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm in mom believe I couldn't leave him if.

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Speaker 3: I tried, djy.

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Speaker 2: You crazy DJ.

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Speaker 1: My issue here is people keep moving the gold post.

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Speaker 1: Oh why does he have to come from behind? Do

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Speaker 1: this about winning games? And he continues to progress. People

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Speaker 8: You'd be blind if you say he isn't progressing. Number one,

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Speaker 8: He willed them to the victory yesterday. Ye scramble. It

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Speaker 3: I want to no doubt about it. I've always said it. TJ.

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Speaker 1: Sports has a short menual. It's wins and losses. You

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's.

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Speaker 8: Playing better though, Yes, he's for sure playing better.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure plan better, TJ. I want to talk

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Speaker 5: out right now that Joe Burrows are back at practice

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Speaker 8: If we can win one of these next couple of games. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I mean I was told that he was going to

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying right there, and we need.

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Speaker 8: I mean, at this rate, I'm gonna just keep it

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Speaker 8: a butt. Carrie. You've been training. You can go out there.

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Speaker 3: I know, I thought I thought about it. Hey, they're

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Speaker 1: You could you could go and let up four touchdowns

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Speaker 8: next two games. Just just Joe coming back is going

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Speaker 8: to bring an energy to the team and excitement to

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Speaker 8: the to the fans, and so you you always for that.

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Speaker 8: But if we're out of the playoff picture, I don't

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Speaker 8: see the point. Man. It's really get healthy and make

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Speaker 8: sure you can go on to the offseason healthy again.

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Speaker 8: And it's just unfortunate, man, I just I've never seen

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Speaker 8: nothing like this. Man, Like, if you look at the numbers,

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Speaker 8: they're on pace to be the worst defense in the

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Speaker 8: history of the league. And this is at some point Wing,

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Speaker 8: we gotta we gotta have pride in what we do, man,

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Speaker 8: have pride in what we do. You you can be bad,

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Speaker 8: but damn the worst.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that that game to the Jets,

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Speaker 1: that was it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the one. Oh god, yeah that was it.

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Speaker 8: No, No, that wasn't it. That after the Jets?

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Speaker 2: What's nah?

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Speaker 1: It was the one after the game that was even worse.

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Speaker 1: I'm just at the just that the Jets haven't been

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Speaker 1: able to score, right. And speaking of that, Rob G,

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Speaker 1: what is that stat with Justin Fields?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 1: With Rob G? What's that stat with Justin Fields? With

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Speaker 1: the games under fifty yards?

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Speaker 4: Four of his eight starts with the Jets have had

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Speaker 4: a net under fifty yards.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, what what are we Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: can play. It's everybody else where Are you on Justin Fields?

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Speaker 1: Because I don't. I just can't see it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's been on three teams.

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Speaker 8: Now, I'd be a hypocrite. After what I just said

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Speaker 8: about Taylor Williams. This results, right, and so at the

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Speaker 8: end when it's all said, justin field is gonna have

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Speaker 8: to throw the ball to win games.

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Speaker 3: I just don't like, how are you gonna win with

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Speaker 3: one dimension? You can't. But they have nobody to throw

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Speaker 3: the ball to either.

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Speaker 8: That's not true. That's not true.

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Speaker 2: You don't think that's true.

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Speaker 3: I mean they got they got Mason Taylor at tight end.

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Speaker 3: That's it. Who else? Gary Wilson's out, No, Garrett's.

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Speaker 8: Out went out.

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Speaker 3: Garrett's out.

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Speaker 8: But they so they traded for uh John, They just

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Speaker 8: they traded for dynam I'm gonna just tell you this

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Speaker 8: right now, from a pure receiver standpoint, if you put

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Speaker 8: ever receiver in the National Football League on one field

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Speaker 8: John Mitchie from a run route, quickness, speed side strip,

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Speaker 8: he gonna be one of the top twelve on that field,

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Speaker 8: and that's every receiver in the league just off a

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Speaker 8: physical attribute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but he just got him this week.

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Speaker 8: I'm telling you, now, you got a d Mitchell. So

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Speaker 8: you you got two dudes that can run, two dudes

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Speaker 8: that are quick. And I noticed because I've been on

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Speaker 8: the field with both of them, they really run. They

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Speaker 8: are really quick and explosive. So you got weapons. But

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Speaker 8: I don't know if Justin Fields can get him the

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Speaker 8: ball accurately enough enough during the game. Can you do

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Speaker 8: it once or twice yet? But can you do it consistently?

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Speaker 8: That that's the question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. How about the TJ.

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Speaker 1: Huschmanzad as our guest here on the odd couple of

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and Brian day Ball getting whacked, No surprise,

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Speaker 1: I called for it two weeks ago. But the other

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Speaker 1: part is the mismanagement of Jackson Dart and just having

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Speaker 1: him teaching him or whatever not to lower your shoulder

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Speaker 1: and run into defenders and all these design plays like

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Speaker 1: trying to drag him out of the concussion tent to

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Speaker 1: get back on the field. I mean, it looked like

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Speaker 1: he was trying to save his job and not thinking

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Speaker 1: long term about the quarterback.

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Speaker 8: Jackson Dart's mentality. He just a dog like well don't

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Speaker 8: you right? Yeah? Yeah, like that his mentality. He was

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Speaker 8: like that in college. I've been knowing Jack and Dark

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Speaker 8: since he was in high school. That's his mentality. He

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Speaker 8: just he has an Italian That's what makes him the

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Speaker 8: type of player he is.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 8: You we we can disagree or agree whether Davell should

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Speaker 8: have been fired. I say this, what good does it

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Speaker 8: do to fire him this year? What good does it do?

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Speaker 8: You're gonna get worse now. You were bad winning, You're

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Speaker 8: gonna get worse now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I but but I just at some point you

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Speaker 1: gotta be It's not it's the right.

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Speaker 3: It's what I'm saying, is.

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Speaker 8: Fire at the end of the season. Look what the

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Speaker 8: Jets did with Roberts Salad. Did they get better? They

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Speaker 8: get worse when they fired him. Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 8: But at some point, yeah, but it's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you just blew your fourth game.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a combination of both and and you

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Speaker 1: gotta remember you're paying customers, you have people there, and

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Speaker 1: and is it always fair? No, it's not always fair,

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Speaker 1: but it usually comes off of something which was four

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Speaker 1: games where you blew in the fourth quarter where.

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Speaker 3: You had double digit leads, and if you just.

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Speaker 1: Say, well, we're just gonna ride it out and we're

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Speaker 1: couldn't do anything about it, that's not what fans want.

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Speaker 3: They want to.

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Speaker 8: Don't do anything about it. I'm saying fire him at

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Speaker 8: the end of the season if that's what you feel. One,

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Speaker 8: he's an offensive guy. Yes, he's in charge of everything.

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Speaker 8: Defense has to play better. You you have that defensive

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Speaker 8: line and that defense. They got to bring no games home.

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Speaker 8: Some what you want, you got to bring no games home.

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Speaker 8: And then go to yesterday, Jackson dark gets hurt. Russe

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Speaker 8: Wilson can't play man. They should have put Jameis Winston.

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Speaker 3: In the game, all right.

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Speaker 5: So then there's another argument on dable, right. Uh, I

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Speaker 5: mean Jamons Winston wasn't even active. That couldn't He wasn't

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Speaker 5: gonna go all right, so he couldn't even play yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So uh, that's.

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Speaker 8: Another Jameis Winston on Sunday. Jameis Winston is my starting quarterback.

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Speaker 8: That's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: I hear you.

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Speaker 1: Until Jameis Winston gets in and then he throws four

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Speaker 1: intercepject I mean we've seen it.

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Speaker 8: I mean just gonna throw inception and he gonna throw

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Speaker 8: for it.

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Speaker 1: You're right, am I right though, I'm I'm just asking you.

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you like like he does do that.

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Speaker 8: Hey, if you're a fan, I'd rather have four touchdowns

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Speaker 8: and four interceptions the two touchdowns, I mean, no touchdowns

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Speaker 8: and two interceptions. I'd rather some excitement of let down,

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Speaker 8: some excitement of letdown, just a bunch of just letdowns.

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Speaker 1: I just looked at it on the Giant schedule and

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Speaker 1: I think Jameis Winston is going to start the next

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Speaker 1: game because it's crab leg night.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, here we go, he.

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Speaker 5: J Come on, man before tea, take it out of here,

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Speaker 5: j who's your best team in AFC right now?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Wow?

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Speaker 2: On the spot?

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Speaker 3: Put you on the spot.

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Speaker 8: It's the two team race right now between the Patriots

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Speaker 8: and the coach.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy. I don't believe either one of them,

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Speaker 3: Either one.

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Speaker 8: Of them, you know, the way they.

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Speaker 3: Play, neither one will be in the AMC Championship.

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Speaker 8: Get team Rob.

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Speaker 1: I'm still taking the Baltimore Ravens to run the table.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 8: I gotta be perfect, man, they got to be perfect.

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Speaker 8: That's hard to be. That's hard they're only one game back.

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Speaker 8: Wait wait, wait, wait, mister Rod Parker, mister Rod Parker,

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Speaker 8: is this the same Rob Parker from three weeks ago

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Speaker 8: that told me they should fire her ball? But now

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Speaker 8: they got they gonna.

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Speaker 5: Run only because only because I believe in the quarterback

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Speaker 5: and he's back.

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Speaker 3: I believe in the quarterback, not the coach, but the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: All right, sure, okay, you called him out.

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Speaker 1: Huh, that's why I ain't t J. It's all good,

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Speaker 1: but don't forget to pick him that. Don't forget to download.

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Speaker 3: My new single. Okay, you gotta download the new single.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Hey, I'm gonna download it a hundred times, just

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Speaker 8: from my boy. I got you every device I got.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna make my kids and everybody in my family download.

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Speaker 3: They gonna hate you, TAJ. TJ. Thank you appreciating y'all.

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Speaker 3: Take care your doubt