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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 3: I'm Peanut Tolman and this is the NFL Player's Second

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Speaker 3: Act podcast with me as always as my trusty co

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Speaker 2: I smoke Copper. You can't say that, Oh No, I

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Speaker 3: Was smoking it was. It's okay, Sor right, Let's talk

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Speaker 3: about our guests that we have. He's already been on before.

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Speaker 3: I love this guy, like genuinely love this guy. He

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Speaker 3: Well, I think Jimmy grew up. He probably he wasn't

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Speaker 4: He just walks in.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, at first, I was so

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm actually glad you found peace with all

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Speaker 3: And I'm literally like, are we gonna get this deal done?

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Speaker 3: I always think it's so important to like, let bygones

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Speaker 2: He was a baller his words, no no facts.

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Speaker 3: Was he was he was an olkay at the ballas

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Speaker 1: So you know, I go out there plus two of

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Speaker 2: I'm one on one. Now I know it was zone.

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Speaker 1: it is zon. But you know, end up scoring, we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think to me, this is a

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Speaker 2: He just the thing.

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Speaker 4: It's done.

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Speaker 2: I was not even going those Literally.

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Speaker 4: I come up to jim and like, Bro, why did

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Speaker 2: He's like, you were gonna go low me? No, I

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Speaker 1: When I turned around saw forty one, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I was my question to you, sir, what is running

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Speaker 4: Well, like, what is you thinking? Well, first of all,

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Speaker 2: I was just like, Jimmy.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, has that ever happened before people

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Speaker 3: No, it's the only time anybody's ever jumped over me. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I give you up your props. Nobody's never happened to me. No,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was twenty fourteen the first time we played

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Speaker 4: Jumped over me so fast.

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Speaker 2: I talked to him later on Mike, what if did

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Speaker 4: He said, ro I thought you were going along like dude,

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Speaker 3: Bess like, all right, look, bro, I'm not gonna jump

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Speaker 2: Much jumping over stupid. Don't be doing that.

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Speaker 4: I was like, bro, I'm not gonna go low with you, like,

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Speaker 2: I should have joined over. Yes, yeah, it was funny.

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Speaker 3: I do get it when you say like I assumed

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Speaker 1: Well, like I assume because one we prize against each other,

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Speaker 2: him got so many fights.

437
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,199
Speaker 1: We you know, all the time. It was bad. Uh,

438
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 1: So I figured, you know, so you'al watching film. I'm like, bro,

439
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 1: like I know he's coming in, were coming over there,

440
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 1: and if I catch the ball in the middle and

441
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 1: it's me and him, I know he's chopping my legs

442
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 1: out and I'm gonna right on my forehead. It's like

443
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,400
Speaker 1: it's not happening. So I predetermined all that. But we're

444
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 1: like right when I saw forty one, I was like, no,

445
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,400
Speaker 1: nobody because you also like people realize like you were

446
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 1: smacking people.

447
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,240
Speaker 2: You know, it's like I smack been watching like on

448
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 2: that game. I know. That's why I said, bro, you.

449
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, man, that was a yeah you got me

450
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 3: on that one, Thomas, good job.

451
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

452
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 4: I wasn't ready for it.

453
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 3: And it's just funny because, like I remember practicing against

454
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 3: Jimmy so many times in practice because I always had

455
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 3: to guard him. And that's when I knew him and

456
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 3: Drew were going to be so good, just because they

457
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 3: literally I had.

458
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 2: Asked Jimmy, I'm like, Jimmy, like, what route was that?

459
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 3: He's like, do I mean, Drew kind of lets me

460
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 3: just you know, do me do him and then just

461
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 3: find it.

462
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 2: I'm like, because I'll be guarding Mike, I don't even.

463
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 3: Think that was a route. Like I'm trying to because

464
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 3: I want to get better too. I always were trying

465
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 3: to help you out with things like, oh, dude, I

466
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 3: really liked how you set that up there.

467
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,919
Speaker 2: This part he's out there freestyling.

468
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 3: By like year three with him and Drew, it was

469
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 3: like freestyling out there, real talk. And we always had

470
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 3: big time competition periods every Thursday and Friday.

471
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 4: It was like big competition ones versus one.

472
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 2: Where somebody's running yeah, We're like yeah, and we bet

473
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 2: we won't say we have money on the line.

474
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 3: But It's definitely a lot of trash talk the line,

475
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 3: and it was like we're going at it.

476
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah a little six seven, right, Maybe it was good dude,

477
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: I like that was good.

478
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: It's good competition when you have that. I think the

479
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 3: fighting brings out the competition. We had plenty of fights

480
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 3: in Chicago with with the offense defense and you're just

481
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 3: like because you're trying to uh yeah, you're trying to

482
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 3: embarrass the guy because he trying to embarrass you. So

483
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 3: that just brings out the competitive side of both players

484
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 3: actually trying to get better. That's what makes us. That's

485
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 3: what makes the league so competitive. You're on the team,

486
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: you're only fifty three man roster, but we're still going

487
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 3: to be competitive within the team. Still, I still want

488
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 3: to be successful.

489
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's also like, you know, as I got older,

490
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: they changed a lot of that, right there was there

491
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of that going on, you know. I

492
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: mean I got to Chicago on a fight and it

493
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: was like what is going on here right there? You know,

494
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: I almost got kicked out of practice. It was like

495
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: a whole thing. And I'm just come from New Orleans.

496
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: Bro. We get Tim Tim fight to practice, right.

497
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: It's so what you're saying is you're coming from like

498
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: an old school NFL and then you go to a

499
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 3: new team whatever and it's just like wait, what.

500
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

501
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: Because things are changing? But like for me, and the

502
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 1: aspect is like one if it's not gonna be anything egregious,

503
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I'm gonna

504
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: blindside somebody come out of nowhere, you know, but if

505
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: you know there's a catching he tackles me and we

506
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: both get up with John, you know, something might happen.

507
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: Uh you know, So in the end, I would I

508
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: would find out quickly who the dogs run a team? Right,

509
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, because because you know, I want to know

510
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: before we get out there on Sunday.

511
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Speaker 3: You should have been there when I was. Need have

512
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 3: been fighting all the time. We just have been some dolls.

513
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: It'd have been just like me and Malcolm. Yeah, me

514
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: and Malcolm fought basically every day.

515
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 2: That was me and Brandon Marshall.

516
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: We thought all the time every day because we were

517
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 3: just competing all the time, just fighting.

518
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, now here we go. Let's let's jump

519
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 4: into it.

520
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 3: The same question I always ask Jimmy every time I

521
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 3: see him.

522
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: What are you up to these days?

523
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: It's always something everything, you know. So I just got

524
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: back from place cool. I was up in North Carolina

525
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: getting trained in this thing, this helicopter's Airbus H one five,

526
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 1: and got some Knivision training. So I'm going to help

527
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: out when there's like natural disasters as a helicopter pilot,

528
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: to like help bring food and get people out if

529
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: they're stuck. So that was probably one of the coolest

530
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: things I've ever done, honestly.

531
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: And if you're getting called into Dudio to maybe help,

532
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 3: you'd come from here and go to wherever you're needed,

533
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,959
Speaker 3: and then you'll get up in the skies.

534
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

535
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: So basically the owner of the helicopter, I met him

536
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: in Palm Beach. We do a lot of charity together.

537
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: We help out a lot of veterans and kids. And

538
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: so the last hurricane they went to North Carolina. You know,

539
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: he had some people up there helping out because all

540
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: the roads were closed down. So basically his aspect is

541
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: anywhere really in America. What happens randomly is that the

542
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: quick response teams, you know, it takes them a bit

543
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: to get there. So a lot of private citizens that

544
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: they'll donate their their playing helicopter and their pilots to

545
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: try and help out because once these roads are closed,

546
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: there's no way in and out. You know, people are

547
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: starving people, you know, just the basic needs of like diapers,

548
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: food and water. And then if people are critical, you know,

549
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: you can take those people to facility.

550
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: You know.

551
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to get the opportunity to want like

552
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: donate my time you know and skill set to help

553
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: people out.

554
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 2: And never seems to not surprise me. I love it, though,

555
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: call me I fly with you.

556
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: I'll be looking, man, let me know, let me know,

557
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: let me totally do that in a heartbeat.

558
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: You should do it. It's fun. I don't know, you know,

559
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: Jimmy offered to fly me back home one time.

560
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: Like I still can never get over Jimmy flying the

561
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 3: helicopter over the practice facility in New Orleans. Like it's

562
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 3: like just random one day because it is a helicopter

563
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: riter Like, what the world's going on?

564
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 4: Oh, it's Jimmy up there. I like that.

565
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: I like that.

566
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: You let me know. All you do is ask Vilma.

567
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: Vilma came up into the aerobatics with me. Oh yeah,

568
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: because he lost a bad to me. Uh so, and

569
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: he's terrified of flying. Uh So he came up and

570
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: you know there's things like F one race car wings

571
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: and uh you know, at the end of he said,

572
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: mes was a incredible thing I've ever done. I'll do

573
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: this every week, every day I can. So you know

574
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: it's it's trust me. I'll take care of you. May

575
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: have a good time, okay, deal, and we'll put videos

576
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: and I'll cut a video for you.

577
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: All right, all right, that's dope. I know what we're

578
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: doing tonight. We're doing it at night time, white Fosphorus.

579
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: And we'll be right back.

580
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: This summer, you were busy. You were in the Arctic.

581
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: You rolled across the Arctic. I don't know how many

582
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: miles it was, but I know it was something far

583
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: and it was something cold.

584
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

585
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Speaker 1: So basically this thing was called the Arctic Challenge twenty

586
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: twenty five. There was four of us on the boat.

587
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: You know, one of my best friends, Andrew Trope, former

588
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: Navy Seal Team six, and we're at obviously a pub,

589
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: and talked about doing something like this, and then it

590
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: came about so how can I.

591
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: Describe the difficulties of this?

592
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: So basically, like last November is when I decided, okay,

593
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: this is there's a lot going on here. I really

594
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: need to take hold of similar responsibilities as far as

595
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: navigation comes, and well, you know, obviously from living on

596
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: a sailboat and flying helicopters and planes, I understand quite

597
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: a bit about that, but this is not a new level,

598
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: you know. So basically I spent you know, three months

599
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: reading everything.

600
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: I could.

601
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: About the weather up there, the ocean state, the sea state,

602
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: and then I even flew to London to meet with

603
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: our weather modeler. And so a weather model basically is

604
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: basically an outlook on what could happen based on what's

605
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: currently happening. So low pressure high pressure system isobars, and

606
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: then things at certain levels whins when gusts, and then

607
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: you have currents, and then you have swells and all

608
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: those things coming to factor when you're when you're rolling

609
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: a boat that goes to knots and they weighs eight

610
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: hundred pounds.

611
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: So it was it was intense.

612
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 3: Have you fully decompressed from coming off of this adventure?

613
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: Definitely?

614
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean really, it took me about a month to

615
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: get my sleep back, you know. So some of the

616
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: complications of this is if you take one of the

617
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: things that we had to go through, it would be

618
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: probably the hardest thing you've ever done. But now you

619
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, compound on top of that ten more things,

620
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, like just sleep alone. The longest I slept

621
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: in ten days consecutive minutes was forty three minutes because

622
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: we're an hour and a half on, an hour and

623
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: a half off, so you know, and I have a

624
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: lot of jobs where I have to put it, you know,

625
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: put a satellite out, you know, upload take videos for

626
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: whather models, send it to him. We'll talk about the

627
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: course and what we should do and some of the

628
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: things coming up. And then my calorie burn was eighty

629
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: five ish one hundred calories a day, so I was

630
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: in taking you know, ten eleven thousand calories.

631
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: As I could.

632
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: I actually got saved by a cyclist that I cycle with.

633
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: He basically guided me on what he's done to help

634
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: his gut, because, you know, in taking that many calories,

635
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 1: that is like freeze draft food is so difficult, and

636
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: it's it's really hard for you. So what really saved

637
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: me was instant mass potatoes. You've never had a meal

638
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: like instant mass potatoes when you are that hungry, tired,

639
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: wet and cold.

640
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: You know, it was literally brought my spirits up at times.

641
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: So how do you get instant mass potatoes in the Arctic?

642
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: You could, yeah, uber no. So basically, so the setup

643
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: is we have to carry everything we need on the

644
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: boat to be able to last us what could possibly

645
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: be twenty days. Like there's some people that just finished

646
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: a row I forget it was like South America maybe

647
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: to Australia.

648
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: That took them like five six months.

649
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: So they have to carry that much like food and

650
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: all these extra parts in case something goes wrong. So

651
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: basically the boat is just like every little cabin is

652
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: just full of all these food and snacks and everything.

653
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Because you basically are in zone two training twelve hours

654
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: a day, so you know, stopping you from cramping and

655
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: just getting blown up and you know, just dying. You

656
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: really need to take those calories. But the biggest thing

657
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: is our water, is the ability to make water. So

658
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: we have a water maker there and so every other

659
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: ship change, we have to basically make water, fresh water

660
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: for the food to heat.

661
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: It up and these burners.

662
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: So not only like let's say there was two big

663
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: fronts that came through The second one was the worst

664
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: for us. It was I would say twenty to twenty

665
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: five foot like swells. The winds were like twenty eight

666
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: got c yeah, no, no, I'm telling you, it was.

667
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: Just got seak. It was crazy.

668
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: It was twenty eight gusting thirty eight or forty four

669
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: something like that. And you know, the entire time, you know,

670
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: you're trying to keep the boat straight out of the

671
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: wind when it wants to point into the wind. But really,

672
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: like when you make your food. The couple in the back,

673
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: their job was heating up the water. So we're hitting

674
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: these swells and they're you know, basically turning on a

675
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 1: burner and you know, making boiling water then passing it down. So,

676
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean, everything that you could think of made this

677
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: thing absolutely just torturous.

678
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: Have you ever so before this, have you ever seen

679
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: or been in a twenty five foot swell?

680
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: Now?

681
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: Or okay, okay, because like the first time you see this.

682
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, well I have been in some

683
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: really bad weather, right obviously in a plane and just

684
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: from the sailboat stuff, you know, transporting sailboat back and

685
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: forth or you know, going out. But you know that's

686
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: a that's a that's a sixty two foot yacht, you

687
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's like it's very stable.

688
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: But the principles of this, I mean had to study

689
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: quite a bit to make sure that I understood which

690
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: way we need to point it on the wave, and

691
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: then based on if we can, what we need to

692
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: either throw out this thing called a pair anchor or

693
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: a drogue, so the drug stops you. Basically, if the

694
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: swells get too big, you pull a drogue out, which

695
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: which which is behind this little boat, and it allows

696
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: you to go up and down these waves straight because

697
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: if you ever, if they get too big and you

698
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: go down straight, the whole boat of jackknife and roll

699
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: down what is technically a mountain of water, and then

700
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: everybody strapped on outside, who knows what's gonna happen. I mean,

701
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get hit by something. So I mean,

702
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: this was by far the most interous thing I've ever

703
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: done in my life, like in every way possible. Yeah,

704
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: but I'm here.

705
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: I like it.

706
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: I mean, mon was nowhere near what you did. I

707
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: did Lake Michigan, Lake Michigan, and we just did ours

708
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 3: in a day. We just did non stop, so we

709
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 3: never got a chance to sleep.

710
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: We just did it a hours, which was was still

711
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: a beast.

712
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: It's still a beast.

713
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: Something wrong, Yeah, yeah, still a beast.

714
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 3: But we looked at the weather ones like all right,

715
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: the currents this way, we should go now, yeah, stars

716
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: up a day just because the way the swell or

717
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: excuse me, the way the current was going.

718
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: Like if I wanted to go straight, I had to

719
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: really turn the boat that. Yeah, go on that way.

720
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: We learned early.

721
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: We took a break, we took like a ten minute break,

722
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: and we lorady to sail and we.

723
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: Drifted back a mile.

724
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: So what we did was we had a pair anchor

725
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: a chase boat with so whenever we would like take

726
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: a ten minute break, we were just anchored to that

727
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: boat and they would just kind of hold us some

728
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: place just kind of yeah.

729
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: So, I mean for us, we had to we had

730
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: nobody around us, so we had to throw out a

731
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: pair anchor. So the par acre really stops you from

732
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: basically drift drift like that much. But like to talk

733
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: about how difficult this was, it was some of the

734
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: worst things was in the cabin because you have to

735
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: keep it sealed. Your breath is is creating this humidity,

736
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: so all the walls are just dripping water. So everything

737
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: in the basically everything in the cabin is completely soaking wet.

738
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: So so you you know, you've been on deck getting

739
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: hit by waves. Now you take that stuff. It's freezing

740
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: cold out there. Then you take that off and you

741
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: get this waterproof sleeping bag. But kind of everything is wet,

742
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, and just being like that, not showering for

743
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: ten days and then having to use the bathroom in

744
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: a bucket is tough. It's it's a it's a definitely

745
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: humbling experience in many ways.

746
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 3: Did everyone leave the boat the inside of we'll call

747
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: it the cockpit. Did everyone leave the cockpit when a

748
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: person had to use the bathroom?

749
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: Oh no, no.

750
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: So so the setup of this boat is so there's

751
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: there's a cabin on both ends of it, and then

752
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: there's three little kind of like rowing seats. The back

753
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: seat we actually took out, and that's where the bucket was.

754
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so outside, so if you can imagine, like

755
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, you I mean it took me, it took

756
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: me seventy two hours. Vies about them, right, because the

757
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: way we're eating, and you know, I could barely sleep

758
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: for the first set hours trying to get us because

759
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: I actually decided to take a different route than anybody'd

760
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: ever gone before for reasons that I believe will work better,

761
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, based on what I know about weather and winds,

762
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: and so it was very intense, you know, first forty

763
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: eight seventy two hours, and so imagine you know, like

764
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: let's say it's gustin twenty and it's you know, overcast,

765
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: can't you know it's it's it's cold as raining, These

766
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: big old waves are coming out and basically you have

767
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: to just walking along the side of this. You have

768
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: to have three points of contact or your fall in

769
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: the water. Yeah, so now you're like, all right, I'm

770
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: going to I'm gonna use a bathroom, and you got

771
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: to kind of get behind everybody, and then you're wearing

772
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: all these layers, so now you got to figure out

773
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: your way out of some of these.

774
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: And then you got this little bitty bucket. I'm a

775
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: grown man.

776
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: So so you know, now I'm trying to figure out

777
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: as you're holding on to these deals.

778
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was hold on.

779
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 3: I got more sleeping talk about the sleeping arrangements, like

780
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 3: you you kind of went into it but give me

781
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: a little bit more detail, like where and how did

782
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: you sleep? Like I do a set of ruin, or

783
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: I do a shift a ring, I do my hour

784
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 3: and twelve hour and a half.

785
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: I come back inside. Do you leave all that on?

786
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: When you take all that off? Just getting your sleeping bag, Like,

787
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: explain that set up.

788
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: So basically, you know you've been on an hour and

789
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: a half cranking as hard as you can right for

790
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: the most part in the zone two, zone three, depending

791
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: on where the weather is. So the cabin door opens up,

792
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: and I see my friend and he's smiling, and I

793
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: just tell him I hate him because I'm miserable all

794
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: the time. And then so he climbs out. You kind

795
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: of get in there, and right when you get into

796
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: the front door, you kind of take off your big

797
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: jacket and a bit. And me and him figured out

798
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: because my hands were freezing cold. Even though I played

799
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, I'm just not built for that stuff,

800
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: you know. I'm more of a Miami guy. So we

801
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: would actually use the same gloves so that the gloves

802
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: are warm when you first got out there. So basically

803
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: I get in there, I look at weather winds, I

804
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: send some stuff the weather modeler.

805
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: I make sure everything's good.

806
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: Eat a little bit, and now I try to set

807
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: an alarm because the biggest thing is you don't want

808
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: to be late for the next ship, right because yeah, yeah,

809
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: and when you're sleep deprived and you're hungry, and you're

810
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: cold and you're wet, I mean, the last thing in

811
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: your mind is thinking is be a good teammate. It's like,

812
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: let me just get ten more minutes, you know. So

813
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: basically you have to sit in there and the boats

814
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: rock and then at our feet, like I was too

815
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: big to actually stretch out on the boat, so you know,

816
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find a position that doesn't Also in

817
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: front of us is this like rudder. So it's it's

818
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: our auto tiller technically, but if you touch it, it'll

819
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: just fall off. And now the boats just start doing circles.

820
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: Now you got to open the door, reset everything. So

821
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: and also that thing is insanely loud, So our cabin

822
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: because of all carbon fiber, you can barely hear.

823
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: This thing is so loud.

824
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: So I would try and lay down and try to

825
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: make myself off asleep, and you know, next thing, I

826
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: know would be like thirty minutes later, this alarm will

827
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: go off, and you there's nothing in your body that

828
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: wants to get up, like, no part of you. I mean,

829
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: you're hurting so bad. But you know, then again, I

830
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: gotta go there for my boy. So I put my

831
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: stuff on, kick the door open, look at him smiling.

832
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was crazy, put on that fake smile.

833
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: So you go ten days straight.

834
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: Because I'm still just trying to get a vision of

835
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: all of this. I can't believe you did another thing.

836
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: But yes, I can't. Actually I can't believe that.

837
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 4: So but you're just rotating the whole time. Yeah, so

838
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: it's three that are rowing.

839
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: No, it's two on, two off. So it's two on,

840
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 2: two off, and.

841
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: You guys, somebody's rowing for ten straight.

842
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: Days all the time. Ye. The boat's moving, Yeah, the

843
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: boat's moving.

844
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: And you went a total of five hundred and eighty

845
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: four miles.

846
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, notical miles, Yeah, nautical nical miles. There's a difference,

847
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: big difference. Just keep going. Oh, yes, that's a whole

848
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: nother conversation. What is the difference. So there's miles of

849
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: nautical miles. One is different.

850
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean notical miles was set up back in the

851
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: day because they used to use knots on a rope,

852
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: and it's historic and that's what they use not only

853
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: for sailing, but for flying.

854
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: All right, at this moment you got about this video,

855
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: how are you feeling at this moment?

856
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Me?

857
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: Miserable, cold.

858
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, like you can't see much of my face,

859
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm trying to cover up as much

860
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: as similar possible. And not only that, but you know

861
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: you're not washing your face. You get wind blasted. So

862
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 1: all this like like your skin is starting to peel off,

863
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: you know, like the skin in your hands is starting

864
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: to peel off. So and right about here, this is

865
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: like after halfway. This is right when my side joint

866
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: in my back started like acting up. So you know,

867
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: not only that I'm suffering. You know, I've had reconstructive

868
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: wrist surgery. I've had reconstructive right knee surgery. You know,

869
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of injuries in my past. And

870
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: so right about halfway is when I really started feeling

871
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: a lot of those injuries.

872
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: This is what no one was left a feather, the

873
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: feathering with the did y'all start that first?

874
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

875
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: So like if you're like a really sculling, then then

876
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: you feather, but with this you don't it straight. Yeah,

877
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: because they're so high, so you don't really need to feather.

878
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: And really, that constant motion for ten days, you're not

879
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: gonna be to keep that up.

880
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: I gotcha. I didn't know nothing about that, did you.

881
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: I don't even know a feather. Me no idea. I

882
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: found out last year.

883
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: That means I don't even feel bad. What was the

884
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: first thing you did when you got off the boat?

885
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: Well, so NFL Films was there, Okay, so we're going

886
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: to see that at some point, okay this season. I

887
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: have no idea. What I said, I have no idea.

888
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: I was like a loosener at that point. But basically,

889
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: so I get off this boat. There's all these cameras around,

890
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: and I hadn't stood up in ten days, and you know,

891
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: being on the wave, so I just fell down, like

892
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't use my legs for the first time.

893
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: You know.

894
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: It felt like, you know, like after a major surgery.

895
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you just have no strength and no like

896
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: stability in your inner ear. And then basically we got

897
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: what we could. We got in about like eleven o'clock

898
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: or ten o'clock, we found a hotel aim Or pm pm. Okay,

899
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: but there, so it's twenty four hours daylight, so you know,

900
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: it hasn't been dark yet, you know, even when you're

901
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: in the cabin.

902
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: It's still light. Yeah, So we basically go to the hotel.

903
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: Nothing's really open because we're in this place called fal Art,

904
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: which is it's like a glacier island. So it was

905
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: a wild place to see because it's there's so many

906
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: different there's so many different people there from different continents

907
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: because you don't really need a visa to go there

908
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: and work, so it's it's a very international place where

909
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: there's doing a lot of studying on you know, ice,

910
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: climate change and all these things, so a lot of

911
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: brains there.

912
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: But we get to a hotel.

913
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: My secretary was working on a hotel in flights twenty

914
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: four hours once we saw land because we couldn't see

915
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: land even though we're beside it for three days and

916
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: it's a few yours, we couldn't see it because there's

917
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: fall for three days. So we get to the hotel

918
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: and the only place open is a pizza place. So

919
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: I ordered four large pizzas and we all sit down

920
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: outside and destroy you know. But the number one thing

921
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: I did. When I went back to room was I

922
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: took a shower for an hour. I just sat there. Man,

923
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, just having a warm shower was

924
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: probably one of the best experiences, one of the best

925
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: things I've ever I've ever got in my life, because

926
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, you've been without it for so long.

927
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: How emotion so I can relate to the whole not

928
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: walking for for ten days. I just did it or

929
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: a day, and I got very emotional toward the end.

930
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 3: Once I could see land about two three miles away,

931
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 3: I got really emotional NFL films that were there for mine.

932
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: So I remember I started crying, and I remember why

933
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 3: I was doing it. We did it for like a

934
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: neuro blackstorma and cancer research, and we had all these

935
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: names of these kids that have passed away, a few

936
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: kids that have passed away from neural bleastoma. And I

937
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: just remember I got so emotional when I was sleep deprived,

938
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: and I was just like, if you cancer, and I'm like,

939
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: I'm crying. And then I get on shore and I

940
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 3: just I fought. I just I just laid there. It's

941
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: just like my legs are tired. The difference though, is

942
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: maybe a week after I did the role.

943
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: I had a.

944
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: Blood clot in my calf that went up into my

945
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: lungs and damn near killed me. And I had I

946
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: was for like a day or two like so that

947
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: was that was my experience from way better you did it.

948
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm laughing because I survived death. That's why I'm laughing.

949
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: I'm not like almost dumb.

950
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: No, I'm laughing because that's a vibe, okay. And I'm

951
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: still here to slap you in your chest.

952
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: That's why I'm still here.

953
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: I mean I appreciate it well.

954
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: Like like talking about like getting emotional, I'm I'm pretty

955
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: sure I did as well. Uh Like whenever the cameras came,

956
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: I really don't remember what I said. But midway through

957
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: is this island that we really try to stay away

958
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: from called Bear Island, and we're halfway through. That's when

959
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: Hannah passed out letters that the Covenant House had done

960
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: and it was all the kids that we were rolling

961
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: for to raise some money. Uh so everybody kind of

962
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: read a letter, you know, and and you know, it

963
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: really centered things to really why we're there, what we're doing,

964
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: why we're suffering. And then once we touched Shorty, it

965
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: was like I wasn't even thinking really about myself. You know,

966
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: it just it just reminded me, you know of really

967
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, who we did it for. Why we're out there,

968
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: you know, why why would you know this, this this

969
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: big idiot be up in the Arctic ocean freezing and

970
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: suffering like that, and and you know, it's really to

971
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: inspire the kids, you know, and and you know, to

972
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: give them opportunities, you know, to to live a better

973
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: life and to get out of the situation. And you know,

974
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: you know I was, I was one of those kids.

975
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: And so every time I do something, I usually tag

976
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: on and make sure that I do something for you know, youth,

977
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, who are suffering like I did when I

978
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: was a kid. So you know that for me was

979
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: the biggest thing. And uh, you know it's hard to

980
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: talk about even now, because that's what's the most important

981
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: part about this entire adventure, was, you know, creating these

982
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: opportunities and inspiring the youth.

983
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 3: Out of all the adventures that you've done, what's been

984
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: the most comparing with this one, What's like, what's been

985
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: like the best lesson learned, something that you've learned about yourself?

986
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I hate cool weather.

987
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: I know that now, no doubt. I think.

988
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: You know, when I was, when I was younger, I

989
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: did a lot of things, you know, for myself. You know,

990
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: I had a lot of my own goals, and you know,

991
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: some of those goals I fell short, you know, like

992
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: short of uh, you know, coming out of high school

993
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: and you know, even in college. And you know when

994
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: when I stopped falling short is when I started doing

995
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: it for a bigger purpose. And you know that's one

996
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I've been on this crime for

997
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: so long, you know, trying to do so much for

998
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: the kids is is because you know, I realize, you know,

999
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: how important I why is and and you know it

1000
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: motivates me every day to get up and and you know,

1001
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: to push myself and to become a better person and

1002
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: to try and you know, bring light on certain issues.

1003
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: So I would say, you know, really my motivations in

1004
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: life have changed dramatically, and it's through these experiences. You know,

1005
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: I've learned so much from doing you know, the more

1006
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: I do for others, you know, really, the more I'm

1007
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: doing for myself, you know, the more healing I'm doing

1008
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: for myself, for my childhood, you know, the more healing

1009
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing for myself and falling short in many ways

1010
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: in my life, you know. So for me, you know,

1011
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: that's been one of the biggest things that I've gotten

1012
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: out of this and many of the things that I've

1013
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: done in my life.

1014
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 3: I love you hear hearing you say that, Jimmy, because

1015
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: I know because I know your background, I know your

1016
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: family upbringing, I know your family that brought you in

1017
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: and how much they meant you and all that other

1018
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 3: stuff and so, and I know how much your personal

1019
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: goals have mattered to you, like the things that you've

1020
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: tried to go and achieve, and you know from the

1021
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 3: whole battle of are you a tight end.

1022
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: Or wide receiver?

1023
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: You know, like all of these.

1024
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: Things, and then the injuries from Seattle, and I knew

1025
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: how much you wanted to go out there and crush

1026
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: and do these things.

1027
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 2: And and so.

1028
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: To hear you say like, no, actually, like the more

1029
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: I've tried to do for myself, the more I've fallen short.

1030
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: But I've never fallen short when I try and do

1031
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: something for somebody else.

1032
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean it's like you know, when I

1033
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: was younger, and then many times and you know, throughout

1034
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: many periods of my life always felt like you know,

1035
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: it was me versus the world. You know, you know

1036
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: that's how you end up to the NFL. Yeah, you

1037
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: know that's end U getting traded. Is you know when

1038
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: when when you try to always live like that, you know,

1039
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: and then you know, eventually I kind of flipped it,

1040
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: and now is it's like me and I got a

1041
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: little army behind me of the reasons I'm doing stuff.

1042
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: You know that that extremes of motivation, and you know

1043
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: it really has molded me and changed me a lot

1044
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: as a human being.

1045
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: You know, as you know, you know I was pretty intense. John.

1046
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

1047
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: A little bit like this is really an evolve vision

1048
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: of yourself, bro, Like this is awesome most of us,

1049
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: include myself, even to where you are right now.

1050
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: And so I just I'm thankful.

1051
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: Do an adventure like like that. I promise you will

1052
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 3: get there.

1053
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so if you want to, oh no, no, no,

1054
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: I can make that happen next year if you want.

1055
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: It's I mean, really, you know, what I've realized is

1056
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: is that you know when when when you push yourself

1057
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: to to a level of extreme exhaustion, like to what

1058
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: you think is your limit.

1059
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: That's when you really find out who you are.

1060
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: Right, you know, when we know, when life's always comfortable,

1061
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, maybe some things might pass by in some

1062
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, some character leads or you know, you know,

1063
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: maybe some laziness kind of happens. But when you're pushed

1064
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: to that level, you know you have to make a decision.

1065
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: And and when you're at that decision point, that's when

1066
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: you really find out who you are.

1067
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm just so impressed. Next time you want to do

1068
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: something crazy, call me. I'll do. I got set I

1069
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: look for to do like this, and I'll be I'll

1070
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: be trying to up the game.

1071
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 3: And I know I'm forty four, but I just like,

1072
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 3: what can I do to push myself?

1073
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: Like the high Rocks.

1074
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 3: I'm doing high Rocks right, And you're just like, but why,

1075
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, I just want to push myself a little bit.

1076
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 2: I just want to see you. Yeah.

1077
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: Well, first thing you got to do is come flow

1078
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: with me. I'm game and I'll show you something.

1079
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: I'm game.

1080
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: I'm like this close of getting into a flight schooling

1081
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: about I'm thinking about doing one back back home and learning.

1082
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: To HI on a small plane. First. Yeah, well, learning.

1083
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: Well, everybody has to, so let me know, and I'll

1084
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: look at the school. I'll make sure the maintenance and

1085
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: the planes are right. Yeah, I'll talk to you instructors,

1086
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: make sure they're good, and then you'll learn a little bit.

1087
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: And then i'll show you how to flip a plane

1088
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: a little be easy.

1089
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: So game.

1090
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after a quick break.

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00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: All right, So Jimmy, the other question, I'll always ask you,

1092
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 3: what's next, what's your new adventure?

1093
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: What do you have going on? I know you always

1094
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: have something going on, So.

1095
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the world I mean right now, really just focus

1096
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: on business. You know, I started like a lending company

1097
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: back in eighteen. We basically just it's a short term

1098
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: lending company. And now we're in the process of buying

1099
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: a bank. So there's some due diligence here that goes

1100
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: on with that, and it'll be it's a nation, it's

1101
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: under a national flag. But we really are just trying

1102
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: to just have a better community bake down here in

1103
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: South Florida, you know, that's fully integrated, provides everything like

1104
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: a big bank does, and really just focus on that

1105
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: and the debt fund. I'm also part of a venture

1106
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: capital fund out of a DC called flint Lock with

1107
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: a former soa compilot, Joe Seamus his name. And so

1108
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 1: for me right now is just kind of focusing on business.

1109
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: You know, I was blessed enough like when I was younger,

1110
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: because the guys like you, many guys on the team

1111
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: were always already established when I came on the team,

1112
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: and really especially Vilma really pressed upon me, you know,

1113
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: understanding cash flow, where my money's going, where to invest in,

1114
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: how to do it, who to talk to, how you

1115
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: need to educate yourself in that. You know, I'm not

1116
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: going to blindly give my money to somebody when six

1117
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: months of studying I can, I can truly understand where

1118
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: that money's going, what questions to ask and understand. You

1119
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: know what my biggest issue right now currently is, which

1120
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: is taxes and fees, right I need to I need

1121
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: to make sure I'm paying at least amount of taxes

1122
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: and fees as humanly possible, especially if you're in you know,

1123
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: like the market.

1124
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: Right.

1125
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: So I was always in my et spans that's to

1126
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: be a five hundred, you know, just doing things kind

1127
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: of smartly. And I was able to do that because

1128
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: I had unbelievable mentors in a business space, but really

1129
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: teammates that were also doing that, you know, Marcus Colson, right,

1130
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, just like all it was interesting because that

1131
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: team was so unique, the Seattle Seahawks, right, that whole team,

1132
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: like they have a little group together and they all

1133
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: they all invest together on projects, right, So you know,

1134
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, part of these great teams were a lot

1135
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: of guys Aaron Rodgers, right, he is very very busy

1136
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: in that space. Drew Brees as well, So you know,

1137
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: I had great mentors in that and so really moving

1138
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: on to that. But right now, gearing up to eventually

1139
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: start doing air shows, you know, that's I'm trying to

1140
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: find the right platform. You know, I know that we're

1141
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: gonna end up getting a combat Leader jet, which used

1142
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: to fly air shows with Clay Lacy and Joe Clark.

1143
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: It's a beast. It's basically a little private jet that

1144
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: does roles and Lootsen does aerobatics. But really one of

1145
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: the things that I can replace is entertaining people, right,

1146
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: like I remember like getting it being able to go

1147
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: back to New Orleans and score again in that stadium.

1148
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: They're they're none better, They're none better in life, like

1149
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: to go one on one against a grown man or

1150
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: really there were kids at that moment. Right, he's like

1151
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: ten years younger than me, and tell him, yeah, I'm

1152
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: getting a ball and just jump over him and in

1153
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: the crowd teammates, I'm head bumping and there's nothing that

1154
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: can really replace that, right yeah. And that's a problem

1155
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: for me because I scored so many times in the NFL.

1156
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: It's because I was addicted to that feeling.

1157
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: Uh, you know.

1158
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: So for me, I think, you know, really continuing, you know,

1159
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: to push myself in aviation, to do some air shows

1160
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: in front of crowds and be able to you know, uh,

1161
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, continue with the program I have with the

1162
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: kids with young Eagles. But in the end, there are

1163
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: some things on the horizon, you know. I think, one

1164
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: day I love to sail around the world solo. And

1165
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: then when it comes to the next big event, me

1166
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: Luke Wilson, NHL guy, and maybe my Navy steal boy,

1167
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: maybe you uh, you know, we might do the Ram

1168
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: Race race across America, which is on bikes. It's front

1169
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: of West coast to the east, cost three thousand miles, so.

1170
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: I do that. I was wondered. I was like, he's

1171
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: going to definitely cycle Florida.

1172
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 4: I was all the way, all the way the.

1173
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: Whole I was like, I hope you don't save me

1174
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 2: for selling around the world. I don't want to. Yes,

1175
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: you love that. Now you should look this up.

1176
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: Is one of the most brutal, Like I mean, I

1177
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: think the solo person like the records like seven six

1178
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: days or something like that across the Yeah, three thousand miles.

1179
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: You're not stopping, bro. This this is this is one

1180
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: of the hardest.

1181
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: Is it a relay er?

1182
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: Is it all for individual I'll let you know, Okay,

1183
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a peloton.

1184
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: I got there's a team they have like basically one, two, four,

1185
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: and I think maybe eight, and then there's like you know,

1186
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: mixed and like all these other things. So I'm gonna

1187
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: figure out what's best for whoever is willing to do

1188
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: this with me. They're want to raise some money. Absolutely,

1189
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: and this this trip will be probably the most probably

1190
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: the funniest thing you ever been a part of, because

1191
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: Luke Wilson is probably one of the funniest people you've

1192
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: ever been around. He is absolutely his NHL boy equally

1193
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: as funny. And Andrew Trope is is equally as funny.

1194
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: So you basically have you know, it's basically like a

1195
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: little frat team biking across America.

1196
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be cool. That's so.

1197
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: My last and final question is, uh, we asked all

1198
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 3: of our all of our guests this question, Mount Rushmore.

1199
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: You get four people to pick that have helped you

1200
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: turn you into the guy you are today. You could

1201
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: be on the field, off the field, just four people

1202
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 3: have had a positive influence on you in your life.

1203
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: Who would those four people be? There's probably twenty. Becky

1204
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: Vincent Delay took me into high school. You know, you know,

1205
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: I owe her a lot, you know, and and you know,

1206
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: she believed in me when no one did, and and

1207
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: you know, gave me a roof for my head. And uh,

1208
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, she's the first person tell me how smart

1209
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: you know, and and and then so I started believing it. Now,

1210
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still idiot, but you know I can

1211
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: read it.

1212
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: Remember that matters. Yeah, Yeah, there's a big deal. It's

1213
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: a big deal.

1214
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: Tammy Myerson, Uh, she unfortunately passed away three months after

1215
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: I got traded to Seattle.

1216
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

1217
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: Tammy was my manager and I've been a part of

1218
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: her family. She took me in and she's the one

1219
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: who taught me business, and you know, she opened my

1220
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: eyes to you know how I needed to see certain

1221
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: things and introduced me to a lot of amazing people,

1222
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: a great community down here in Miami that I'm still

1223
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: close with today.

1224
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 2: Well, there's so many people.

1225
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: One of the bigger influences on myself in my career.

1226
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: Really it's hard to split them up. But Jonathan Bilma, Uh,

1227
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, I came in as a young basketball player

1228
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: and my last day, my rookie year, Jonathan Bilma says,

1229
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna be back in Miami.

1230
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: I said yeah.

1231
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: He's like, well, I start working out in the week

1232
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: and if you follow me, I'll get you paid. So

1233
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: you fast forward to when I sued the NFL. Jonathan

1234
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: Vilma he told me, he said, listen, I told you

1235
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: that if you follow me, I'm gonna get you paid.

1236
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna finish what I started. So until you

1237
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: get paid, I'm gonna work out with to every day.

1238
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: So he worked out with me every day for six

1239
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: months and then retired after I got paid. You know,

1240
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: he was a true leader. We had many leaders on

1241
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: our team. He's a true leader. No, you saw were you.

1242
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: And that's that's what's so unique about that team as

1243
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: well as like the Legion of boom Is there was

1244
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: not just one leader. I mean, there was a leader

1245
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: every position, right, and that's what made those teams special. Wow,

1246
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: there's too many people to name at the end. It

1247
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: is a tough question. It's a tough question.

1248
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: Too many people. I got one more what you got?

1249
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: Really with my career, I would say Drew Brees.

1250
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: You know, he he had no reason to, you know,

1251
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: explain to me what he thought I could be my first,

1252
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: dam only job. You know, he had no reason to

1253
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: to call my name against Atlanta with all those proven

1254
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: players in there chancing a lot right to believe in

1255
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: a kid like me who wasn't a football player, who

1256
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: still didn't understand what defenses were right. I was still

1257
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: trying to just line up on the right splace and

1258
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: run the right route. It's at the right depth, you know.

1259
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: And and you know, so last year being able to

1260
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: induct him with the Saints Hall of Fame was a

1261
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: special moment for me. You know, I couldn't really hold

1262
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 1: emotions back obviously, and neither could he, you know, because

1263
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: I think you know, we both know how special that

1264
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: moment was. Those moments that we had together were for

1265
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: each other, you know, because I really didn't have you know,

1266
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: a lot of family growing up, so you know, for him,

1267
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: I always felt like he was my older brother. And

1268
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: and you know the way he put confidence in me,

1269
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: you know.

1270
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, good job. I appreciate it. Man, dude,

1271
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: I appreciate having you know.

1272
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 4: Before we let you go, man, I think we want

1273
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 4: to show.

1274
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 2: You a little something.

1275
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: Okay, so you tell us what you think when you

1276
00:56:59,640 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: see that.

1277
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the guy.

1278
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 3: The picture he saw when he was younger than this

1279
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 3: too would have picked out.

1280
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 4: Did the Afro have a name?

1281
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: No, no, no, well no, that's when everybody call me

1282
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: big Red, big Red, big Red at one point in

1283
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: time because I'm from the South, you know what I mean.

1284
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: So like you know, everybody hate be Red. You know,

1285
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: that's how it was, you know.

1286
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: So, yes, this is the this is what we knew

1287
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: the mass. But don't get a twisted like he will

1288
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: make fun of that. But that kid right there, he

1289
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: will dunk on you for sure. Just know what he

1290
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: was doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah I was. I wasn't trying

1291
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: to shoot at all. I was just trying to get

1292
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: just dunk on everybody.

1293
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I.

1294
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 3: Love it, man, Jimmy, Man, you know how much I

1295
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: love you. Dog appreciate it, man, dude, You're You're awesome man,

1296
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: and you're always keeping it so being entertaining by everything

1297
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: you're doing. And I just love that you have reached

1298
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 3: the point where it's no longer about you and that

1299
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: you really have found joy and trying to do things

1300
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: for others and that you really like Man, that's a

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Speaker 3: real goal and you've never fallen short when you did that.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take that with me. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate both of you guys, you know, one

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Speaker 1: for the battles that we had and reallyated leadership man,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's uh, you know, when I met you,

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Speaker 1: you were almost like a grown man. I thought, because

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Speaker 1: a great hair, uh, but you know, really how you

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Speaker 1: handle yourself man, it's a leader.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: It really inspired me a lot, really taught me a lot,

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Speaker 1: and really humbled me in many ways, especially watching you

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Speaker 1: go back to New Orleans. Right, it was a big

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Speaker 1: reason I did, you know, So I appreciate that. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that because I really needed it at the time.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, no doubt, bro, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you man for and Jimmy Man for shure Man.

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Speaker 3: You know that for an All you guys listeners and

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Speaker 3: where you pick up your podcast at where you're watching

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Speaker 3: it or.

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Speaker 2: Listening put my leg up to but I don't know if

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Speaker 2: there man.

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Speaker 4: Uh, we appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Man. Make sure you give us a like subscribe if

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Speaker 3: you leave a couple of comments for us. Make sure

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Speaker 3: that that follow button too, And whether you listen at

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio Apple podcasts, please tune in and continue to tell

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Speaker 3: a friend to tell a friend to web Peanut teleprame.

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Speaker 2: There you go, man, get us out of here. Peanut,

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Speaker 2: that's Roman.

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Speaker 3: That's Jimmy, Jimmy g and We Out And this is

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Speaker 3: the NFL Player's second act podcast, We Out

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