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Speaker 2: stat of the day, all of that forthcoming. Tarek Scuble
Speaker 2: made his debut as a Dodger at Wrigley. Wasn't a
Speaker 2: bat outing, but took the loss. You know, the bigger
Speaker 2: issue here is the Dodgers have been losing a little
Speaker 2: more frequently than you've come to expect. There you've got
Speaker 2: a couple of teams front offices who are pushing back
Speaker 2: on the narrative that nobody wanted to go and offer
Speaker 2: up more than the Dodgers did to the Tigers. The
Speaker 2: Braves have talked about this, The Brewers have talked about this.
Speaker 2: The Tigers their sensitive because people didn't think they got
Speaker 2: their money's worth for Cherik Scuble. But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I've said it, I still believe it. You got to
Speaker 2: get to a point where you say, is this the
Speaker 2: year we're all in? And even if you rent trek'
Speaker 2: scouable for two months, he's still going to pitch well
Speaker 2: for you. You're gonna have to go through the Dodgers
Speaker 2: if you're the Brewers or the Braves. So why not
Speaker 2: add and then subtract from the Dodgers all right, poll question,
Speaker 2: what are we gonna go with first hour dealing?
Speaker 3: Should the Dodgers be worried after Trek Scuble gives up
Speaker 3: two earned runs and six innings in his debut? Obviously not?
Speaker 2: Or yes?
Speaker 4: Send him back to Detroit.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, well, by the way, give me the pizza
Speaker 2: mint Wednesday menu, we have dan a Cajun gumbo pizza. Okay.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, our sous chef, Billy Tips, was in New Orleans,
Speaker 3: so he was feeling all inspired and I was like,
Speaker 3: that sounds great, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Oh so he brought a recipe back hopefully that's all
Speaker 2: he brought back from New Orleans down there for a
Speaker 2: bachelor party. What else do you have?
Speaker 3: Hot honey, pepperoni and bacon pizza? And then Todd's favorite,
Speaker 3: a classic cheese pizza.
Speaker 2: Is that just gonna be a staple that's on the
Speaker 2: Wednesday menu?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I'm here on out. Okay, who is it better than
Speaker 2: we do? Oh? That didn't sound good at all? Okay,
Speaker 2: no body, wait, are you bombed down?
Speaker 6: The first two sons?
Speaker 2: Amazing? When you go to the one yard line to
Speaker 2: kick a field goal?
Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, I do got a question for you. I
Speaker 4: saw some headlines this morning about Schoobl's game last night
Speaker 4: versus the Cubs, like you said, six innings and gave
Speaker 4: up a couple of runs but only a four hitter.
Speaker 4: I saw stellar outing by schoobl in his debut, and
Speaker 4: then I saw another headline Schoobol struggles in his debut.
Speaker 4: It can't be both. We need like a middle of
Speaker 4: the ground phrase for what he did last night because
Speaker 4: he had a nice game.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well, headline riders at different places are asked
Speaker 2: to do different things. You want to play nice. You
Speaker 2: want to have something that get your attention. You know,
Speaker 2: whenever you hear somebody, when somebody says something funny, you know,
Speaker 2: somebody they oh, it's brilliant, hilarious, you know. So they
Speaker 2: have these words that they use in the headlines, and
Speaker 2: not always hilarious. Sometimes it's just chuckle funny. Eight seven
Speaker 2: seven three DP show. We'll settle on a poll question,
Speaker 2: get to your phone calls. We'll hear from Josh Allen
Speaker 2: a little bit later on Ben Roethlisberger as well, and
Speaker 2: he took the bets from Shohu Tani's interpreter we'll talk
Speaker 2: to the bookmaker gambler, Matt Boyer. He will join us
Speaker 2: coming up in the final hour of the program. Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame Game tomorrow, And in case you're inclined, it's
Speaker 2: a one and a half point spread. The Panthers favored
Speaker 2: by one and a half over the Cardinals. Are the
Speaker 2: Cardinals favored in any game? They're not even favored in
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame game. I don't think the Cardinals
Speaker 2: are favored in any game. Are the Race Raiders might
Speaker 2: be favored in a one game? Can we find out
Speaker 2: the fewest as far as games for teams to be
Speaker 2: favored in? I'm sure there's a list with that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: po I do have.
Speaker 4: Some Week one lines and the Cardinals are at the
Speaker 4: Chargers and the Cardinals are getting eleven and a half
Speaker 4: in Week one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to find out if they're a favorite.
Speaker 2: I know they're going to be an underdog, but Dylan,
Speaker 2: if you can find that out, maybe, uh DraftKings has that.
Speaker 2: But the least number of games that team is a
Speaker 2: favorite Dolphins, Dolphins, probably not too many games there. Browns
Speaker 2: would probably have a couple of them as well. Yes,
Speaker 2: to see saying the whole.
Speaker 6: Fame Game will probably not be an NFC title game preview.
Speaker 6: That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2: You're saying, thank you, Tod. I was looking at the cost.
Speaker 2: The college football Coaches Poll came out. How much does
Speaker 2: it cost to be in the top ten? If you
Speaker 2: spend forty eight million dollars, you would be ranked in
Speaker 2: the coaches poll. That's Texas, Miami, Florida forty four million.
Speaker 2: They're seventh in the coaches poll. Ohio State is third
Speaker 2: in the Coaches poll. Their payroll is just under forty
Speaker 2: four million. LSU is fourth on the list at forty
Speaker 2: two point eight. They're thirteenth in the Coaches poll. Oregon
Speaker 2: they're fifth on the spending list at just under forty
Speaker 2: three million. Their second in the coaches poll. Fifth in
Speaker 2: the Coaches poll is Notre Dame. They spend over forty
Speaker 2: million dollars on their roster. A and M eighth in
Speaker 2: the Coaches Poll. They're spending almost thirty nine million. Alabama
Speaker 2: is eleventh in the Coaches Poll. They're only spending thirty
Speaker 2: seven point two million dollars. This is the first time
Speaker 2: Alabama has been ranked outside the top ten in a
Speaker 2: preseason Coaches poll since two thousand and eight, Tennessee is
Speaker 2: ninth in spending at thirty six point seven they're eighteenth
Speaker 2: in the coaches poll. Texas Tech still spending, they're tenth
Speaker 2: at thirty six point three million, twelfth in the Coach's Poll.
Speaker 2: It's going to continue to go up. But you have
Speaker 2: to look at return on investment here. How much do
Speaker 2: you spend, How much are you're getting back. If it's
Speaker 2: true that Notre Dame made over one hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: last year, then yes, it's worth it to spend that
Speaker 2: kind of money. Make sure you keep your coach. But
Speaker 2: not everybody's Notre Dame. Not everybody's independent, not everybody's got
Speaker 2: their own TV deal. But Texas spending almost forty eight
Speaker 2: million dollars and they rank fourth in the country with
Speaker 2: the coaches Poll. I don't put any validity to the
Speaker 2: Coach's poll because a little secret here. The people who
Speaker 2: watch the least amount of college football in America are
Speaker 2: head coaches of college football teams because they don't care
Speaker 2: about BYU playing Oregon State. They only care about their
Speaker 2: team and their next opponent. That's it. So normally you'd
Speaker 2: have the sports information director at a school he would
Speaker 2: be doing or she would be doing the honors of
Speaker 2: voting in the coaches Poll, because these coaches aren't watching
Speaker 2: college football, at least they shouldn't be. We watch more
Speaker 2: college football because we watch more of a wide variety
Speaker 2: of games and have a better indication sometimes of how
Speaker 2: good a team is or isn't. The only time a
Speaker 2: coach will come across somebody and have an opinion is
Speaker 2: when they're playing them or they just played them. But
Speaker 2: the Coaches Poll is out. I was right about the
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy odds. According to DraftKings C. J. Cart Notre
Speaker 2: Dame is your favorite, slight favorite, then it's Arch Manning,
Speaker 2: Dante Moore, Julian Sayin, Darien Mensa, Trinidad Shambliss, Josh Who,
Speaker 2: and Jeremiah Smith, the wide receiver at Ohio State. All right,
Speaker 2: let's see anything else needs to be mentioned here. I
Speaker 2: mentioned that we have Josh Allen. He talks about some
Speaker 2: of the tough losses that he's had in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: and then Ben Roethlisberger is critical of Mike McCarthy because
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy wants Aaron Rodgers to play in the preseason,
Speaker 2: and Ben said, no, why don't you use this opportunity
Speaker 2: to give some of the younger kids Howard and Owler
Speaker 2: a chance to play in Yes, it's preseason instead of
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers knows Mike McCarthy's offense. Aaron Rodgers was there
Speaker 2: last year. He spent some time with the wide receivers.
Speaker 2: So let the younger kids play. So we'll hear from
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger coming up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, you're Arizona Cardinals. Dan, you asked if they're
Speaker 4: underdogs in every game. It's confirmed they are underdogs in
Speaker 4: every game. As of now this season they are td
Speaker 4: or more underdogs in their first eleven games.
Speaker 2: Well, how about a round of play Cardinal?
Speaker 4: Do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, arch Manning Cardinals around the clock and with
Speaker 2: the number one pick they take. What Marvin, you don't
Speaker 2: think arch Manning will go to Arizona?
Speaker 7: Uh, he's about to pull a Eli. You think you
Speaker 7: think arch You think Archie paying and Eli gonna let
Speaker 7: their boy go Arizona.
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love, Marvin Harrison, Trey McBride, got some weapons, get
Speaker 2: to play half your games indoors, get to live in Arizona.
Speaker 4: But you got to play for the Cardinals and you.
Speaker 2: Have to play in the NFC West. Other than that, Yeah, yes, Dylan.
Speaker 3: This really is sort of a heavyweight bout we got
Speaker 3: for the Hall of Fame game because the Panthers haven't
Speaker 3: won a game regular postseason that they've been favored in
Speaker 3: since September of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Mmmm.
Speaker 4: That sounded like stat of the day there, well, stell.
Speaker 5: Of the day, stanlea day a day, Stana to day.
Speaker 1: This is the stule of the day.
Speaker 2: Cheap span, Melissa Ethridge. There, Carson Beck versus Kenny Pickett,
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game, let's go, let's go, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 4: If this or our college football game three years ago,
Speaker 4: it'd be fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be interested in that. Kenny Pickett. Carson Beck.
Speaker 2: Feels like Carson Beck is gonna get an opportunity to
Speaker 2: start some games this year, or at least he should
Speaker 2: get some opportunities to start some games there because Jacoby
Speaker 2: Brissett just a placeholder. He's been that band aid quarter
Speaker 2: Has he been a band aid quarterback pretty much his
Speaker 2: entire career? Or at what point did he become that
Speaker 2: he's the quarterback before you get to your next quarterback?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, Jacoby Brissett is on his sixth team. He's
Speaker 4: only started. He started fifteen games for Indianapolis in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4: He started eleven games for Cleveland in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Dylan.
Speaker 3: The Fanthers have sort of turned into like the halfway
Speaker 3: house for quarterbacks, you know, Baker, Sam Darnold. That's sort
Speaker 3: of where you go and then rehabilitate your career and
Speaker 3: then you move on somewhere else and then you actually
Speaker 3: flourish a little bit.
Speaker 4: So can you Pickett X stop?
Speaker 2: Could be?
Speaker 4: Could be good?
Speaker 2: So you're saying there's a chance, yes, Paul.
Speaker 4: It's like being the offensive coordinator and Nick Saban. You
Speaker 4: rehab your career. Zay Flowers got paid. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 4: Thirty five million for Zay Flowers.
Speaker 2: Now. He had eighty six catches over twelve hundred yards
Speaker 2: and six touchdowns last year. I know you want to
Speaker 2: continue to have weapons for Lamar Jackson. You have Derrick Henry,
Speaker 2: but you know you've had good tight ends, but they
Speaker 2: don't There's not a long list of great Ravens wide
Speaker 2: receivers when you think about it. Hollywood Brown was in there,
Speaker 2: and Kwon Bolden was a Kwon Bolden a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 2: He was a really good player. But I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think of like Rashad Bateman, I thought was going to
Speaker 2: be a star and we're still waiting for that. Jay
Speaker 2: Flowers came out of BC and uh, I think he's
Speaker 2: surprised a lot of people. But that's a lot of
Speaker 2: money for Zay Flowers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, we're double checking this, but I have Zay
Speaker 4: Flowers as the only wide receiver in Raven's history to
Speaker 4: make the Pro Bowl. It's not that not that hard
Speaker 4: these days checking.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, well you maybe that's why they're going to
Speaker 2: spend thirty five million on him. But it's all about
Speaker 2: timing at these positions that when you're up, what can
Speaker 2: you capitalize on? In Jay Flowers, it's his turn, his time, Yeah, Dylan, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think Derek Mason was a Pro bowler, but not with
Speaker 3: the Ravens. But I also think, like zayfire has won
Speaker 3: back to back Pro Bowls, but doesn't it feel like
Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl that he won in two thousand and
Speaker 3: five carries a little more weight than twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Derek Mason was all Pro with the Titans, though,
Speaker 2: I think right, yeah, yeah, not the Ravens, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4: And Kwan Bolden with a four time Pro Bowler before
Speaker 4: he went to Baltimore and then ceased going to the
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl for three years.
Speaker 2: Well it was he with the Cardinals. Yeah, the Jets.
Speaker 4: I got to see with six years, seven years with
Speaker 4: the Cardinals and three Pro Bowls there, three nice years
Speaker 4: of Baltimore, then a San Francisco and Detroit.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe it was a game against the Jets where
Speaker 2: he got hit. It was one of the most violent
Speaker 2: plays and I'm like, I it's not a question does
Speaker 2: he get up, does he live? But I think it
Speaker 2: was in the end zone. I thought it was against
Speaker 2: the Jets, and I remember and Kwan Bolden took a hit. Yeah, Paul, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right.
Speaker 4: That was September of eight and Kwon Bolden got knocked
Speaker 4: out in the end zone. Safety Eric Smith of the
Speaker 4: Cardinals all Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, and Kwon Bolden.
Speaker 4: Who's with Jet Safety Eric Smith and An Kun was
Speaker 4: at the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, that's what I thought. All Right, We'll get
Speaker 2: the phone calls coming up here from Ben Roethlisberger, Josh
Speaker 2: Allen as well, and a little later on the former
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Speaker 2: Derek Scoubel made his Dodger debut six innings, two runs,
Speaker 2: four hits, struck out six five to one, lost to
Speaker 2: the Cubs. He threw fifty one strikes on eighty five pitches,
Speaker 2: so that's sixty percent strike rate. That's not good for him.
Speaker 2: That was his lowest in a start in four years
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two against the Padres. But you know,
Speaker 2: if you're the Dodgers and you're looking at that performance,
Speaker 2: you're saying, we're fine with that. Great. You know, there
Speaker 2: was a lot of hype to it. You're on the road,
Speaker 2: the Cubs. Cubs are playoff team. It got an MVP
Speaker 2: Canada in there with Pete Crow Armstrong and you know,
Speaker 2: there was an afternoon game, but it was or Wrigley game.
Speaker 2: But it was a fun atmosphere. I think playoff baseball
Speaker 2: is what it felt like there a little bit. But
Speaker 2: Trek Scuble, We'll get a lot more starts there for
Speaker 2: the Dodgers. As for the Tigers, still defending kind of
Speaker 2: what they got in return. The Braves said that they
Speaker 2: really didn't get an opportunity. Brewers have said they really
Speaker 2: didn't get an opportunity. No, because Trek Scuble wanted to
Speaker 2: go to the Dodgers. So Detroit had to basically take
Speaker 2: what the Dodgers were willing to give. Now, they might
Speaker 2: have tried to play a leverage game with some of
Speaker 2: these other teams. I'm surprised they didn't. But if you know,
Speaker 2: Trek Scuble wanted to go to the Dodgers. He kind
Speaker 2: of took away your leverage. Josh Allen met with the media.
Speaker 2: Actually it was Kevin Clark's podcast, and he talked about
Speaker 2: all the tough playoff losses that he's had in his career.
Speaker 10: Been in the playoffs a lot of times in the
Speaker 10: last you know, however many years I've been here now
Speaker 10: and you know, continuing to find ways to learn from it.
Speaker 10: And I think it's a hard pill to swallow sometimes
Speaker 10: because we haven't gotten it done. But you're knock enough
Speaker 10: at the door, it's going to open at some point,
Speaker 10: and that's just what we have to keep You want
Speaker 10: to keep knocking on that door and giving ourselves chances
Speaker 10: to be in that situation again.
Speaker 2: The podcast This is Football with Kevin Clark Josh Allen
Speaker 2: is eight and seven in the postseason. He might be
Speaker 2: the best quarterback in football. You just don't want to
Speaker 2: end your career where they say he might have been
Speaker 2: the most talented quarterback, because that's what they've said about
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers far as throwing a football, he might be
Speaker 2: the most talented. Because then your next question is how
Speaker 2: many Super Bowls did he win? And you say one,
Speaker 2: but he did win multiple MVPs with Josh Allen, even
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. It might be boy, they might have been
Speaker 2: two of the most talented players who ever played the position. Yes,
Speaker 2: it comes down to what you do in the postseason.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not fair to do that, but that's what
Speaker 2: we've done at that position. Quarterbacks are about winning. When
Speaker 2: I was growing up, it wasn't, hey, how many Super
Speaker 2: Bowls do you have? But it got to the point
Speaker 2: when you had Joe Montana with four, and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, when Tom Brady was approaching that, Now,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, everybody's looking at the bottom line,
Speaker 2: how many super Bowls do you have? And then it
Speaker 2: became well, Montana's four and o he never lost. Then
Speaker 2: Brady started piling him up, Danny Patrick Mahomes now encroaching
Speaker 2: on Joe Montana once again, Montana four and O. Terry
Speaker 2: Bradshaw won four. So I think sometimes, you know, Troy Aikman,
Speaker 2: he won three. Sometimes we look at it and it's
Speaker 2: the difference between because Troy Aikman's numbers regular season aren't
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame worthy, but he won super Bowls with
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, and there's added weight to that, Eli Manning.
Speaker 2: He was a good regular season quarterback, not a Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame quarterback, but he won two of the the
Speaker 2: biggest super Bowls in NFL history because he beat the Patriots. Yes, Marvin,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 7: Think last year's lost to the Broncos really hurt him
Speaker 7: last year because before that he kind of had the
Speaker 7: built in excuse of, man, he keeps losing to Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 7: who was kind of like the Tom Brady of this era.
Speaker 7: So I think last year hurt because there was no
Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson and no Patrick Mahomes and last year's postseason
Speaker 7: and they were like, man, all you got to do
Speaker 7: is beat Bo Nicks and the Broncos and he couldn't
Speaker 7: do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No Joe Burrow last year either. As far as
Speaker 2: the AFC, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4: And I know it's really early. Josh Allen just turned thirty.
Speaker 4: But the danger for his career is not appearing in
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. Marino appeared in one. John Elway I
Speaker 4: think was zero to three in his twenties but got
Speaker 4: two and cleaned up that. If he doesn't appear in one,
Speaker 4: that's a whole new level of criticism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what we're looking for. You want postseason
Speaker 2: success at that position, and you know it's the singular
Speaker 2: most important position in all the sports, so there's added
Speaker 2: importance to that. We don't do that with running backs.
Speaker 2: We don't do it with wide receivers, even baseball players,
Speaker 2: the everyday player. We do it for pitchers, but we
Speaker 2: don't do it for everyday players. Nobody's saying how many
Speaker 2: World Series did Barry Bonds win? None? How many did
Speaker 2: Hank Aaron have or Willie Mays have? Like we just
Speaker 2: we don't. Now it helps you with your argument. But quarterbacking,
Speaker 2: we're looking at Matt Ryan. We're gonna be looking at
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan. He didn't win the Super Bowl, but he
Speaker 2: was MVP and he got there. But he was part
Speaker 2: of a team that blew a twenty eight to three league.
Speaker 2: So we already have these narratives going Philip Rivers Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer wasn't good in the postseason. They had stacked
Speaker 2: offensive teams, So you're already you know, Matthew Stafford, I
Speaker 2: believe it was going to be a Hall of Famer
Speaker 2: before he won a Super Bowl, but it certainly helps that.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt. Now super Bowl and an MVP, Yes, Marvin, And.
Speaker 7: To Paully's point about the Super Bowl appearance, Joe Burrow
Speaker 7: getting to the Super Bowl has given him some leeway
Speaker 7: as far as the media is concerned in him still
Speaker 7: being considered a top tier quarterback because of what he
Speaker 7: did early on getting to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yes, he made the appearance, but it was the Bengals
Speaker 2: who made the super Bowl. Therefore you add more weight
Speaker 2: to that. Joe Burrow got the Bengals to the super Bowl. Yeah, pulling, and.
Speaker 4: It works both ways. You look at a guy like
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers sixty four thousand yards but no Super Bowl appearances.
Speaker 4: You need monster monster numbers to overcome that, and maybe
Speaker 4: vice versa. Matt Ryan. His super Bowl wasn't pretty. But
Speaker 4: if he didn't even appear in the Super Bowl with
Speaker 4: one MVP, I don't think he'd have a chance.
Speaker 2: Okay, but is it better to be in the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl and blow a twenty eight to three lead or
Speaker 2: to not make the Super Bowl? So Cam Newton won
Speaker 2: the MVP and then got blown out in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Is he going to be a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 6: Yes, Ton, I guess if I'm Matt Ryan or his
Speaker 6: handlers I'm say, why don't we just call him an
Speaker 6: NFC champion. We don't need to talk about what happened
Speaker 6: in that other game. Sounds a lot better NFC.
Speaker 2: Champion, Yeah, Ben Roethlisberger. Ben Roethlisberger has a podcast, Everybody
Speaker 2: Does Football and Podcast with Ben Roethlisberger, and he had
Speaker 2: this to say about Mike McCarthy's plan to have Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers play in the preseason.
Speaker 11: Every coach has their own philosophy and to each their own.
Speaker 11: Whatever McCarthy wants to do, that's fine. I'm just saying,
Speaker 11: if I was the head coach, I'm not taking reps
Speaker 11: away from other guys because Aaron's got one more year. Here,
Speaker 11: when Aaron's gone after this year as a franchise, as
Speaker 11: a team, as the head coach, Okay, here, I got
Speaker 11: my head coach.
Speaker 2: Hat on.
Speaker 11: I know I'm not trying to say Okay, I'm looking
Speaker 11: forward to the next year. I'm not moving forward. But
Speaker 11: when you know your quarterback is gone and this is
Speaker 11: the most important position of sports, what do I have
Speaker 11: next year?
Speaker 2: Okay? I understand what he's saying, But if Ben was
Speaker 2: thirty six and going into the preseason and Mike Tomlin said, Hey,
Speaker 2: I want to have some of these younger players. I
Speaker 2: want Mason Rudolph to get fair share at the position.
Speaker 2: Here is Ben going to be as enabling as he's
Speaker 2: wanting Mike McCarthy to be with these younger quarterbacks. So
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if I put Ben in that same position,
Speaker 2: how does he feel now? I don't know if Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers wants to play in the preseason, but it feels
Speaker 2: like Mike McCarthy wants him to play. I would love
Speaker 2: to see these other quarterbacks get a chance in a
Speaker 2: moment like this, a big stage, as close as you're
Speaker 2: going to get to replicating a regular season. See what
Speaker 2: you have. If you know Aaron Rodgers has already said
Speaker 2: this is it. You got to start. And at what
Speaker 2: point you start preparing for next season? This season, how
Speaker 2: deep into the regular season, what is your record? Where
Speaker 2: there you go? I think we need to have the
Speaker 2: younger quarterbacks get a chance because you're going to have
Speaker 2: that crossroads because this isn't a super Bowl contending team
Speaker 2: and you might be the third best team in your
Speaker 2: own division here.
Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin, if you were Steelers ownership, would you even
Speaker 7: have brought back Aaron Rodgers, since you're kind of in
Speaker 7: no man's land and you're not a Super Bowl contender,
Speaker 7: would you have brought him back for one more season?
Speaker 2: Well, it depends on who I'm getting. I thought Sam
Speaker 2: Darnold or Malik Willis. You know, somebody could have been.
Speaker 2: Maybe I get Mac Jones, I get somebody that I
Speaker 2: think might be able to be more than just a
Speaker 2: band aid quarterback. But that's what you have with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: And the Steelers have been in this position almost every year.
Speaker 2: They get somebody and then all of a sudden they
Speaker 2: move on to somebody and then somebody else. They haven't
Speaker 2: found the replacement for Ben Roethlisberger, and Rodgers is an
Speaker 2: upgrade for these other quarterback But this is his last year.
Speaker 2: The Steelers are going to be in this position again
Speaker 2: next year of okay, we got to try out a
Speaker 2: new quarterback or are you going to elevate one of
Speaker 2: these younger quarterbacks? And at what point do you play
Speaker 2: them in Aaron Rodgers' final season? And is Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: gonna step aside and say, hey, let the young guys play.
Speaker 2: This is his final season. I mean, he might be
Speaker 2: a team first guy, but at some point it's gonna
Speaker 2: be team Aaron at the end of the year with
Speaker 2: let me go out, let me play. Then you have
Speaker 2: a situation with him and Mike McCarthy. Yeah, Paulin. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The Steelers were ten and seven last year. They made
Speaker 4: the playoffs and won the AFC North weirdly, quietly, they
Speaker 4: never felt threatening, but they were in that no man's
Speaker 4: land of well, we can't move on from Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: because he keeps us competitive. And if they were, if
Speaker 4: they had seven wins last year, Rogers probably doesn't come back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the Ravens didn't make the playoffs, the Bengals
Speaker 2: didn't make the playff the Browns aren't good. You should
Speaker 2: beat up on your own division, and you know if
Speaker 2: you can pick off those easy wins. But Baltimore is
Speaker 2: going to be better, Cincinnati will be better, Cleveland might
Speaker 2: be better. Although the rankings, the quarterback rankings that we
Speaker 2: had with Mike Sando yesterday, they got what the thirty
Speaker 2: fifth ranked quarterback in the league, and they got the
Speaker 2: thirty second ranked quarterback. So Deshaun Watson shoud Or Sanders
Speaker 2: was ranked thirty fifth in the league. By the way,
Speaker 2: there's thirty two teams, right, I just checked. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: you do the math, there so all the quarterbacks and
Speaker 2: then you had a couple of quarterbacks. JJ McCarthy was
Speaker 2: higher than the Shadoor Sanders.
Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin is the worst case scenario for the Steelers
Speaker 7: is to make the AFC Championship.
Speaker 2: Game because you then have Aaron Rodgers wanting to come
Speaker 2: back another year. Perhaps. I think that would be a
Speaker 2: great problem for Pittsburgh if you said, hey, brace yourself,
Speaker 2: you're going to the AFC title Game. Oh no, if
Speaker 2: you're Pittsburgh, you'll take that. Considering what happens to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: You get in and you lose. If you go to
Speaker 2: the title game, and maybe you can convince Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: to come back. Let's see how he plays though, like
Speaker 2: he if he's playing at a high level, great, If
Speaker 2: he's part of a team that's playing at a high level,
Speaker 2: that's a little bit different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, I see where Marvin's going, and I love it.
Speaker 4: If you're an educated lifelong Steelers fan, would you rather
Speaker 4: finish with ten wins or four wins this year? Ten
Speaker 4: wins at a playoff appearance or four wins and redo
Speaker 4: the position and you have a top four draft pick.
Speaker 2: Okay, but they're not a four win team. Right If
Speaker 2: I say you can get ten or you get seven,
Speaker 2: what are you going to take? Ten wins? Hey, another
Speaker 2: winning record or seven wins?
Speaker 7: Marvin, they're not bad enough to get a really good quarterback.
Speaker 7: I realized that with seven wins. But they're not bad
Speaker 7: enough to get four wins. They're good enough to get ten,
Speaker 7: they're not bad enough to get four. But I think
Speaker 7: you've been talking about the Steelers kicking the can at quarterback,
Speaker 7: and my point was about them getting to the AFC
Speaker 7: Championship Game. Is oh, man, another offseason?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 7: Is Aaron Ryders coming back? Or do we move on
Speaker 7: with one of the younger quarterbacks?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: I will once again, that's a great problem to have
Speaker 2: that you got to the AFC Title game, because when's
Speaker 2: the last time they've been in the AFC Title Game?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, the last time the Steelers had fewer than
Speaker 4: six wins in a season was nineteen eighty eight.
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Speaker 2: official trading cards of the program, yet you want to
Speaker 2: be you know a lot of times you'll have teams
Speaker 2: that are in no man's lam. This could be NBA
Speaker 2: where you're just good enough, but then you're not bad enough,
Speaker 2: and then here you are with the eleventh pick in
Speaker 2: the draft and you're looking for that star quarterback. Well,
Speaker 2: now we've had more quarterbacks that we label first round picks,
Speaker 2: so they could be starting quarterbacks. That hasn't always come
Speaker 2: to fruition. So that's part of the heighte machine that
Speaker 2: goes on. I don't know how good CJ. Carr is now.
Speaker 2: I do trust when Brady Quinn said last year when
Speaker 2: he joined US, might be the best quarterback in America.
Speaker 2: I don't know how good Arch Manning is going to be.
Speaker 2: I know how good you are in college. But it's
Speaker 2: like when you're really good on the driving range and
Speaker 2: you're just hitting the ball and you're like, damn, I'm Tiger,
Speaker 2: and then you get out there and you go, no,
Speaker 2: now I'm Tiger. Present day Tiger, where I'm hitting it
Speaker 2: all over the place and I can't play man. But
Speaker 2: I was just good one hundred feet away. Well that's
Speaker 2: college football. It's one hundred feet away. And then you
Speaker 2: got to walk over here, and you know Drew Aller
Speaker 2: at this point last year, oh he Hesman candidate. You know,
Speaker 2: we had all of these guys. You know, he was
Speaker 2: going to be a first round pick and then something
Speaker 2: happened where he wasn't. That's the flukey part of all
Speaker 2: of this when it comes to that position trying to
Speaker 2: get somebody. Can you get somebody unless you're really bad
Speaker 2: or you're willing to make a big trade, Yes, Dylan, Yeah.
Speaker 3: The Steelers have Drew Aller, who is a preseason favorite
Speaker 3: to win the Heisman, and Will Howard he won a
Speaker 3: national title, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, eh, yeah, and I don't know if you either
Speaker 2: can play in the NFL, but I think there's the
Speaker 2: potential there. The question is, at what point do the
Speaker 2: Steelers say, Okay, let's go with potential instead of productivity.
Speaker 2: You got productivity right now, You got potential. Potential gets
Speaker 2: you fired. We'll take a break. Your phone calls coming up,
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Speaker 2: So we'll have that from his podcast yesterday, Todd talks
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Speaker 2: The Toddcast is a fascinating podcast into the mind of Todd.
Speaker 2: Fritz Dylan is your therapist, your host, and Todd stumbles
Speaker 2: upon a lot of topics that are deep, deeply seated
Speaker 2: in his brain, and here was one where he talked
Speaker 2: about nearly getting beat up in the bathroom at a
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics game.
Speaker 6: I thought I was gonna get beat up at at all.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: It was a Fenway Park and I was TV Garden.
Speaker 6: I went to the bathroom of TV Garden. You know
Speaker 6: that commercial, but like from Bah, I'm at your cousin
Speaker 6: from Boston. I've got a beer commercial. I'm sitting on
Speaker 6: the toy and I thought I was just kind of
Speaker 6: murmuring to myself just to entertain myself while I was
Speaker 6: And it was like whatever. The middle of the third
Speaker 6: quarter of the game, and I had to go, and
Speaker 6: these two guys walk in and they attacking and back
Speaker 6: they packed. They can that whatever it is. And then
Speaker 6: I said, it's it's your cousin from Basstar. And I
Speaker 6: thought I was like whispering and maybe I'm losing my
Speaker 6: hearing or I thought it was loud. You have the
Speaker 6: sounds of flushing and stif and it was like, you know,
Speaker 6: like you press on that thing with the heat through
Speaker 6: the sounds of my hair dryers and and and there's
Speaker 6: all kinds of noises and people talking.
Speaker 2: And I don't know.
Speaker 6: I misjudged how lad I was, and I said, yeah,
Speaker 6: cos that from bad and I'm to making fun of
Speaker 6: like the Boston accent, and so so I one of
Speaker 6: the guys said something to a problem or something like that.
Speaker 6: It was like nothing, he was gonna swing the door
Speaker 6: open and pull me off the toilet. But I got
Speaker 6: scared for him because I'm like, I haven't even started
Speaker 6: wiping yet, and I'm like, I'm gonna be here for
Speaker 6: a while.
Speaker 2: All right, once again, too much information, But then that
Speaker 2: is the todcast. Whose fault would it have been if
Speaker 2: you got beaten up?
Speaker 6: I don't think it's the time.
Speaker 2: It's my folks.
Speaker 6: I'm like making fun of their accent, but I don't
Speaker 6: think it'd have to resort to violence. He could have
Speaker 6: just knocked on the stall and said, like, you know,
Speaker 6: how about we don't make fun of Boston accents or
Speaker 6: something like that. But if he would have pulled me
Speaker 6: off of it, that would have been messy. In several ways.
Speaker 2: Did they say anything.
Speaker 6: They said something like, all right, funny guy is something
Speaker 6: like that, I'll watch it. It was something along the lines
Speaker 6: of like they heard me making fun of Boston accent.
Speaker 6: And I'm obviously New York. I got my own problems
Speaker 6: with with accents. But they were talking really loudly. Maybe
Speaker 6: it was a I wasn't be able to concentrate on
Speaker 6: the in the restroom because they It was just annoying.
Speaker 6: So I felt like saying that, but I thought I
Speaker 6: whispered it to myself. But I guess I said it.
Speaker 2: Lad Uh, it's the toddcast. It's abailable, Dan Patrick, because
Speaker 2: if I'm bathed and yes, Dylan.
Speaker 3: The image of Todd getting ripped out of a stall
Speaker 3: with his pants around his angles by like two dudes
Speaker 3: from southe is, you can envision it.
Speaker 2: Chris and Syracuse. Good morning, Chris. What do you have
Speaker 2: for me today?
Speaker 5: Hey? Thanks Dan, I wonderful. One of the guys was
Speaker 5: Mark Wahlberg. I remember he told you one time. I
Speaker 5: think when he was at the Metallions he dropped ticked
Speaker 5: one guy in the bathrooms. Hey, I got something to
Speaker 5: throw actually in a couple possible poll questions. A lot
Speaker 5: of talk this week on the Dan Packers Show about
Speaker 5: teams needing to be more like the Dodgers and take
Speaker 5: a big swing at the trade deadline, and I hope
Speaker 5: for Home run, and I always remember when the Red
Speaker 5: Sox and theo Epstein kind of did the reverse. They
Speaker 5: gave up a home run for three singles and it
Speaker 5: paid off. They traded at the Deadline star and fan
Speaker 5: favorite Nomar Garciapara. They picked up the Dodgers, Dave Roberts
Speaker 5: and a couple other guys, and all three of them
Speaker 5: were a key in the world series Run. And Dan,
Speaker 5: I know I'm going to talk to you before your
Speaker 5: big day, but I wanted to say I have a
Speaker 5: great time at your daughter's wedding next weekend. And I
Speaker 5: know your speech will be awesome because knowing you, it's
Speaker 5: going to come from the heart. I was thinking, Dan,
Speaker 5: if you drop this line, I'm going to tweak it
Speaker 5: a little bit. I'm fortunate to know firsthand with my
Speaker 5: wonderful wife, that true love is the soul's recognition of
Speaker 5: its counterpoint and to other. And I think that's very rare,
Speaker 5: and I'm so blessed that my daughter has found that.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say me, no.
Speaker 2: No, I can't, that's not me not They know i'd
Speaker 2: be lifting that from something like a poem, But thank you, Chris, Yes, Paul, that.
Speaker 4: Is lifted from wedding crashers.
Speaker 2: That's uh yeah, yeah, I can't do that. Yeah, Wilson, No,
Speaker 2: I'm already on notice that I can't be joky joking
Speaker 2: even last night. She goes, I know you're joking about
Speaker 2: this on the show, but I'm just saying, don't be joky, joky.
Speaker 2: I go, okay, but I have to have a little
Speaker 2: levity here. Do you just want me to be crying
Speaker 2: the whole time? You know this is it's a great day,
Speaker 2: it's a happy day, and so I have to keep
Speaker 2: telling myself, what are you crying about your big baby?
Speaker 2: What time does your.
Speaker 6: Future sung in good shape or overweight? Only reason I
Speaker 6: asked her, I remember Honeymooners episode they said, just remember
Speaker 6: I'm not losing a daughter, I'm gaining a ton. That
Speaker 6: would be kind of funny. If he was obese enough,
Speaker 6: that would go over very well.
Speaker 2: I'm sure your daughter would appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Not losing a daughter, I'm gaining a ton.
Speaker 2: You have to be kind of fat. You actually think
Speaker 2: that's funny.
Speaker 6: There's a hilarious I love the Honeymooners.
Speaker 2: So if my future son in law was heavy, calling
Speaker 2: him out for being heavy would be funny.
Speaker 6: At the the would be highly inappropriate, but it would
Speaker 6: be sort of hilarious. And he said, just joking, and
Speaker 6: everybody'd be like a ghast. I can't believe you're referring
Speaker 6: to his weight like that.
Speaker 2: Maybe at somebody else's wedding, but not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because that's your son in law forever, and that's
Speaker 6: gonna be hanging over with the family's head forever.
Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin, No, don't do that, because even if he
Speaker 7: was heavy, I don't know if Josh is or not,
Speaker 7: but he's not.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: They will always be beef between you two, because there's
Speaker 7: always seriousness within every joke.
Speaker 2: I unfortunately, have had some things to say about my
Speaker 2: youngest sister's husband, and I thought I was being funny
Speaker 2: because he always wore a lot of gold and bracelets,
Speaker 2: and so we thought he might have been in the mafia.
Speaker 2: Well he wasn't, But I said that at the wedding reception.
Speaker 2: I had to actually get up fifteen minutes later to
Speaker 2: apologize for my you haven't told us this one before. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's so embarrassing, but yeah, just trying to be funny.
Speaker 2: Trying to be funny that probably I don't know, thirty
Speaker 2: five years ago now, thirty years ago. Not good, not good,
Speaker 2: but imagine that. Excuse me, excuse me. I'd just like
Speaker 2: to say I was joking when I was talking about
Speaker 2: Matt and that he might have had mafia ties, and
Speaker 2: everybody's like looking back, and then that was it, Ampauli.
Speaker 4: That's an all time or a mid wedding apology during
Speaker 4: the dinner service, like you're enjoying your salads.
Speaker 2: Yes, but.
Speaker 4: Yes, Todd, but he does wear a lot of gold.
Speaker 2: People, am I right? And helped me out here. They
Speaker 2: did have a really funny moment. I've seen it one
Speaker 2: other time at a wedding reception where you got the
Speaker 2: best man up there, I think, and then it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: all of you women who have known you know, the uh,
Speaker 2: the groom, bring up your house keys because he's now married.
Speaker 2: And then you would have all of these people that
Speaker 2: they gave keys to, and then the last one would
Speaker 2: be like an eighty five year old grandmother and she
Speaker 2: walks up and gives the key, and you know, so
Speaker 2: that was funny. That mine was not funny. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, in your mind, like there's part of me
Speaker 2: that's like you Todd that I go you know, you know,
Speaker 2: in my mind that sounds funny. Normally I don't say it.
Speaker 6: Yes, you have to really edit yourself a not verbalize
Speaker 6: or anything.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Not everybody gets your sense of humor, your wife tells.
Speaker 2: Me they do not, they do not. My wife said
Speaker 2: that to me last night. She keeps saying, once again,
Speaker 2: not everybody gets your sense of humor, And I go,
Speaker 2: thank God, I said, my audience does. And that's who
Speaker 2: I care about, han not the people showing up at
Speaker 2: a wedding reception. Wait, what did I just say when
Speaker 2: I armored the books? Who's in the confessional?
Speaker 1: Todd is ayay