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Speaker 1: means we got football. It's also a Thursday where we

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Speaker 1: got more baseball. It's a Thursday. Well, every day you

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Speaker 1: get the DG Show, plus you get the podcast that

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Speaker 1: follows the show. Welcome in Hope. You're having a spectacular day.

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Speaker 1: Kind of weird Thursday night game, right Like, I actually

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Speaker 1: think this year in the NFL there's been some quality performances.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would be as harsh with

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Speaker 1: it as Jay Stu is. You know, Jay Stu calls

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Speaker 1: it the zuopa the zeropeteur, where we just people will

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Speaker 1: pay anything to see you two, so they'll pay anything,

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Speaker 1: and total gloss over the lack of finally played football.

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Speaker 1: I do think there's been some games that are well played,

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Speaker 1: but part of the breakdown and quality of play is

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing with the Bengals, Right you got forty

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Speaker 1: year old Joe Flacco coming in he's quarterback and taking

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Speaker 1: on an older you know, forty year old Aaron Rodgers' quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Now Rogers it was planned for him to be quarterback

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Speaker 1: and is what we believe is this last year with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. But then you take out Trey Hendrickson, you

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Speaker 1: add in the fact that Flacco just got to the team.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers are coming off a game with the Browns

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Speaker 1: where they sacked sat to quarterback six times, and five

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Speaker 1: and a half doesn't feel like enough. It is in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: It is a rivalry game, and the more we try

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Speaker 1: and count people out the more, especially the Bengals. You know,

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Speaker 1: they do have Jamar Jason. If you go back to

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Speaker 1: last week's Packers game, he's still very much a problem.

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Speaker 1: But this does not feel like one. I want to

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Speaker 1: tune in for him, Like I'm literally tuning in to

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Speaker 1: see what Aaron Rodgers looks like a third of the

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Speaker 1: season in that's the check in here. And it's weird

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Speaker 1: because Aaron Rodgers has been different degrees of pretty good

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Speaker 1: all year. Last he's been trending better. The issue with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers has been their defense was kind of eh

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Speaker 1: until you know last week or two, great uniform matchup

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Speaker 1: right where you got the Bengals, who once again are

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Speaker 1: going to be featured. But I don't see I don't

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Speaker 1: see a path there. And one of the things that

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Speaker 1: you can it doesn't always happen this way. We did

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Speaker 1: a game I don't know it was this week. Last

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Speaker 1: week we talked about our favorite backup quarterbacks, and our

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Speaker 1: favorite backup quarterbacks are the favorite backup quarterbacks because they

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Speaker 1: came in and played well. But those guys are few

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Speaker 1: and far between, right, Like we'd all agree Flacco is

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Speaker 1: a bad fit for this system, not because he can't

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Speaker 1: but because their offensive line is a weakness and he

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Speaker 1: team that has pass rush was sort of non existent

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Speaker 1: first couple weeks and now has come back to play.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't feel good. And I would say a Dodgers Brewers

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Speaker 1: is to watch, but that one feels like a mismatch too.

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Speaker 1: And I know Blue Jays and Mariners is getting close

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Speaker 1: to getting even up because the Blue Jays won last night.

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Speaker 1: But that's a series that exists only on the bottom line.

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Speaker 1: I would challenge any of us that's like a real thing.

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Speaker 1: I'll just ask you, Chase, do Happy Birthday to Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: It is his birthday.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, and I won't.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this for Jason. He is not somebody

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Speaker 1: who searches for happy birthdays, although I'm guessing at the

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Speaker 1: his Facebook page to all of that, to everybody who

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Speaker 1: reached out, thank you for all the birthday wishes, making

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Speaker 1: everyone who didn't wish him a happy birthday feel very,

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Speaker 1: very guilty. But Jay S, dude, did you even watch

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Speaker 1: a pitch of last night's Blue Jays Mariners game?

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Speaker 2: No? I watched. I watched just about all of them.

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Speaker 2: I think Vlad Guerrero Junior is a fascinating watch. Like,

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Speaker 2: if you're going to list the five players in Major

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Speaker 2: vlat Oh wait wait, wait almost night.

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Speaker 1: Can we can we pocket that part for a little

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: The five guys you do want to watch. I mean

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Speaker 1: like I mean, cal Raley had another home run, right,

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Speaker 1: go ahead? Why is he such a fascinating watched you?

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Speaker 2: I just think that these uh nepo babies that are

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Speaker 2: he has almost and almost surpassed it. He's put that

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Speaker 2: the year. They have the best record in the American

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Speaker 2: League because of him. I just find him fascinating.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So who are the other four that you find

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Speaker 1: most fascinating? B Show?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Bryce Harper? I love watching Bryce. I love watching

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Speaker 2: uh Sken's pitch, and then show Hay and Judge would

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I think that's a really good list. Did

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Speaker 1: you hear what was it? Dombrowski head he's with the

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Speaker 1: Phillies where he said today he doesn't know if he

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Speaker 2: I was like, wow, I agree with that. He's looked

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Speaker 1: So yeah, no, no, it's but it's just interesting, like

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Speaker 1: especially for you having a birthday, right, Like, you feel

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Speaker 1: your age sometimes when you see that number, but you

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Speaker 1: also feel your age when you're like, wait, I remember

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Speaker 1: when Bryce Harper was like twenty, Now he's thirty two, right,

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Speaker 1: Like I remember when Bryce Harper's been playing in Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball for what fourteen years? I mean, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: So I think if you're I won't reveal your age,

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Speaker 1: But if your age doesn't make you feel old, the

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Speaker 1: fact that Bryce Harper has gone from the next one

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Speaker 2: I was born in seventy two, so I'm officially Harry Carson.

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Speaker 2: Happy Happy birthday, you old man.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. What do you do

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Speaker 1: for a fifty third birthday?

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Speaker 2: Zero? Exactly zero. But Dan Bayer loves birthdays. He appreciates

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Speaker 2: birthdays more than most people I've ever met and will.

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Speaker 2: He refuses to allow me to ignore my own birthday,

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Speaker 2: and he bought me Buffalo Wild Winks as a birthday gift.

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Speaker 2: He was the first person on staff to wish me

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Speaker 2: happy birthdays. So Dan just refuses to allow me to

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Speaker 2: do what I like to do, which is just kind

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Speaker 2: of ignore my birthday.

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Speaker 3: Gotta do it.

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Speaker 4: It's your day for once a year, you know, one

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Speaker 4: time of year, it's your day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the wings, they're delicious.

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Speaker 5: Way to tick now, way to tick?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 6: Dan?

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Speaker 5: I think I was the first to wish Jason a

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Speaker 5: happy birthday via text this morning.

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Speaker 2: No, I look at the timestamp. I looked at the timestam.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not do by the way.

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Speaker 4: I do not do group texts because it lets the

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Speaker 4: other people off the hook on knowing the person's birthday.

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Speaker 4: So I sent a personal text to Jason happy birthday.

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Speaker 5: Mine was at nine fifty two Pacific time. Nine fifty

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Speaker 5: one is one who sent yep?

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Speaker 3: Are you serious?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 4: Dang, yep. But I even let Jason know I go

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Speaker 4: by the way. I beat Sam, just for the record

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Speaker 4: to show I.

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Speaker 1: Got to check this out.

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Speaker 5: Here like a Tour de France. Time.

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Speaker 1: Hold on? So it's nine? What time? Nine?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 2: Hold on? Hold on?

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Speaker 4: My text is not on the group text because I

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Speaker 4: didn't text on the group text.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I believe you. I believe.

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Speaker 5: Screenshot for proof.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't need a screenshot for proof. I just

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Speaker 1: know the timing of it. I ask because because I'm

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Speaker 1: not a big Facebook guy, right, I'm not, But I

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Speaker 1: do wish happy birthdays on Facebook often, and I believe

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Speaker 1: I wished Jay Stu a happy birthday on Facebook book

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Speaker 1: and I was just trying to see the timing of

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Speaker 1: when here it is three hours ago? What time is it?

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Speaker 1: So this is yeah, you beat me to the punch

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Speaker 1: too well. I don't know what times you wish my birthday.

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Speaker 3: About two and a half hours ago, Doug.

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Speaker 5: If you were if you had wished him a happy

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Speaker 5: birthday three hours ago, that would have been like nine

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Speaker 5: ten nine o nine am Pacific time.

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Speaker 4: I feel the Facebook happy birthday, though, does not rise

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Speaker 4: to the level of the text.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yes, there is something more personal about the text.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to dispute that.

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Speaker 4: Facebook is very performative, I believe. So it's like, look

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Speaker 4: at me, everybody. I'm wishing Jason a happy birthday, but.

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Speaker 5: I do rely on Facebook for helping jog my memory

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Speaker 5: when there is a birthday, it is very helpful.

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Speaker 4: Someone else has got a birthday coming up very soon,

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Speaker 4: we'll have a race to that birthday wish.

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Speaker 5: I yes that he would be talking about me my

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Speaker 5: birthday on Sunday. I do want to say something funny

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Speaker 5: that my dad wished his buddy Nick, who's a little

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Speaker 5: younger than him, a happy birthday. Nick's in his sixties,

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Speaker 5: but he said happy birthday. You'll get over it, which

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Speaker 5: I think is perfect for when you get older. Like

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Speaker 5: he just I feel like you just kind of want

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Speaker 5: to move past.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like I'm not getting rewarded Jason, or

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Speaker 1: not even getting There's no confirmation or affirmation or tip

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Speaker 1: of the cap to the fact that I actually got

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Speaker 1: the happy birthday wishes.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: First, I just did my due diligence. Great job of

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Speaker 2: the ninety people that mushed me a happy birthday up

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Speaker 2: to now on Facebook. Doug got in before Dan got

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Speaker 2: his text message in yep, three hours ago.

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Speaker 1: Dan's was more personal and thoughtful. Mine was more time

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Speaker 1: sensitive and imediate. Now I did run the benefit of

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Speaker 1: being hours ahead, right hours.

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Speaker 2: Ahead, Doug. Doug sent his message right after the girl

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Speaker 2: I had a crush on in eighth grade, which I

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Speaker 2: only accepted her follow out to see if she's still hot,

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Speaker 2: and then there's Doug.

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Speaker 1: Godway, is she still hot? It's a great question. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: got quiet.

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Speaker 2: That's a yes.

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Speaker 5: He's deliberated.

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Speaker 4: So she's probably very nice to look right, Jason, she's

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Speaker 4: a pleasant looking woman.

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Speaker 2: He looks like a very nice person.

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Speaker 1: What does a nice person look like?

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Speaker 2: You can tell you know, glasses.

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Speaker 1: Glass glasses. Glasses, glasses means you're nice. I wear glasses sometimes.

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Speaker 1: It's time for Dodger baseball. Dougie Glanville will join us

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Speaker 1: it great joke, and she was being very sarcastic but

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Speaker 1: very dry witted, and I was like, who is this chick?

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Speaker 1: Like who is like hih? But anyway, Bates was super talented.

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Speaker 1: But I remember that in Saint Louis. I want to say,

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Speaker 1: Illinois shot forty threes in the in the championship game,

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Speaker 1: made it close, but North Carolina was the better team.

446
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Speaker 1: Was the better team.

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Speaker 2: So also into October of that year, it was something

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Speaker 2: very memorable. May have been the first week in November.

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Speaker 2: You know, the White Sox broke an eighty eight year

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Speaker 2: World Series championship streak, and you know, you're happy for

451
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Speaker 2: the guys, Aaron Rowland and aj Prasinski, Mark Burley, we

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Speaker 2: all know the guys. But maybe the most cringey moment

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Speaker 2: of the year was when remember the White Sox caught

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Speaker 2: on fire that year and they started to play Don't

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Speaker 2: Stop Believing, maybe the most cliched sports anthem in the

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Speaker 2: history of a song.

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Speaker 1: Totally yes.

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Speaker 2: And then they invited Steve Perry, the former lead singer

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Speaker 2: of Journey, to their post season parade celebrate, and somebody

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Speaker 2: came up with the great idea of doing an a

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Speaker 2: cappella version of Don't Stop Believing. Since they got Steve Perry,

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Speaker 2: let's all do it. Let's all sing along. So this

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Speaker 2: is a bunch of ballplayers and Steve Perry.

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Speaker 1: Foh smile, they can shave and night.

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Speaker 3: It goes on and on and on and on.

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Speaker 10: Strange come out up and down the ball shineos searching and.

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Speaker 2: Just a little, uh, just a little snippet for you.

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Speaker 2: Find it on YouTube. You'll love it. It's very cringey,

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Speaker 2: uh and awful.

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Speaker 4: I do think there was a tough task guest by

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Speaker 4: Steve Perry for to have the other guys sing the

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Speaker 4: words they didn't know impossible, you know, like come on,

473
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Speaker 4: you know no, Look, we only know don't Stop Believing

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Speaker 4: That song You're took on such a life of its own, because,

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Speaker 4: as you said, very cliched, but I would say in

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Speaker 4: the in the up until that point, it was a

477
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Speaker 4: good song in Journey's catalog like it wasn't close to

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Speaker 4: like the anthem that it has become. At this time,

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Speaker 4: I felt that their ballads of open arms and faithfully

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Speaker 4: were much more popular than don't Stop Believing It fair.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 4: Before we jump over to music and movies and whatnot,

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Speaker 4: I do have to mention the year in golf in

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Speaker 4: two thousand and five, and I won't bore you with

485
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Speaker 4: all the details except to tell you that Tiger Woods

486
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Speaker 4: won two majors. But probably the shot that we most

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Speaker 4: remember on the sixteenth hole in the final round at

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Speaker 4: Augusta National missus the green on sixteen and has the

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Speaker 4: chip in with the ball just sitting there at the edge,

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Speaker 4: and then Verne Lundquist on the call one of the

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Speaker 4: great moments in all of golf. What's lost in that

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Speaker 4: is Tiger went bogie bogie at the end of the

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Speaker 4: round to actually fall into a playoff with Chris DeMarco.

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Speaker 4: That shot though, with the way that the Nike logo

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Speaker 4: on the ball fell into the cup, something that we

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like it happened just yesterday,

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Speaker 4: but it was twenty years ago.

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Speaker 1: Mmm. Golf. In movies that year, the years two thousand

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Speaker 1: and five, Star Wars episode three, so the last of

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Speaker 1: the prequels came out. Revenge of the Sith was the

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Speaker 1: number one movie. Harry Potter, Goblet of Fire, War of

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Speaker 1: the Worlds, which I've never seen. I was third. Chronicles

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Speaker 1: of Narnia Lion which in the wardrobe. I remember that

504
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Speaker 1: book when I was like fourth grade, never saw the movie.

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Speaker 1: And Wedding Crashers was fifth. Wedding Crashers. Good movie. Batman

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Speaker 1: Begins that year, that was a good one. Meet the

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Speaker 1: Falkers was that year. Matt at Gascar, which we talked

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Speaker 1: about yesterday on the show. The movie The Hell the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: The movie Crash won Best Picture of that year, and

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Speaker 2: that was well ahead of its time of art coming

512
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Speaker 2: out of Hollywood that wanted to make sure we all

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Speaker 2: knew that America is racist. Still we are still very rare,

514
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Speaker 2: and we're going to spend two hours with many examples.

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Speaker 2: Broke Back Mountain was also a critically acquam movie that years.

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Speaker 1: Can't quit You.

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Speaker 5: I saw that movie. I saw that movie in theaters

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Speaker 5: with my mom.

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Speaker 1: That's uncomfortable.

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Speaker 5: Yes it was. She was like, let's go see this movie.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's better than seeing with like your but

522
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Speaker 1: your best friend. Probably leave the chair in between. She like,

523
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: hands are brushing up against each other and you're like, no, probably.

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Speaker 5: Watch the trailer first. I didn't know. I didn't know. No,

525
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Speaker 5: if you're gonna go with your buddy, you should probably.

526
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Speaker 1: But did you know what it was about?

527
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Speaker 5: I did not know.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: My mom also took me to The Big Lebowski. Like

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Speaker 5: I've gone to many like oddball movies with my mom.

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Speaker 1: It's like, it's a good movie, but it is about yes, so,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, that's one like did you have the talk afterwards?

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Speaker 6: I was.

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Speaker 2: Old enough?

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Speaker 1: Is there something you want to tell me? It's okay.

536
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 5: I was old enough to woman.

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Speaker 1: That's that's great. She found a man that's okay too.

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00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, we we're we had already covered all that stuff.

540
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Speaker 1: So we shout out to moms and uncomfortable conversations.

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Speaker 5: Yeah's uncomfortable movie and uncomfortable combos kind of bringing it

542
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Speaker 5: back to sports.

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Speaker 2: Without that movie, we would not have had that great

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00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: comeback by Roger Clemons. Remember Dave Stewart called Roger Clemons

545
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Speaker 2: out for being on Rooyd's in two thousand and five,

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Speaker 2: and then Roger Clemens's owner response was, yeah, broke back

547
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Speaker 2: Mountain inferring that the late Dave Stewart was was homosexual.

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Speaker 1: Wait, Dave Stewart's that dead?

549
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Speaker 7: Is he?

550
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Speaker 2: Oh? If he's still living, I'm sorry Dave Stewart.

551
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Speaker 1: And Dave Stewart has not gotten the call yet. And

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Speaker 1: Dave Stewart also happily married, Like, yeah, I just don't

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Speaker 1: let the voice for you. I did not know he

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Speaker 1: said that broke back then Google it all right, dud.

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Speaker 1: That's don't call it the throwback Thursday.

556
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Speaker 9: Don't call it a throwback steps that.

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Speaker 1: I got the chow. Fox Sports TRADIERO. Let's get to

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Speaker 1: Dan Byer some breaking news.

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Speaker 9: Breaking news from Fox Sports.

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Speaker 4: Indiana University and head football coach Kurt Signetti have agreed

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Speaker 4: on a new eight year contract extension that will pay

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Speaker 4: him more than an eleven and a half million dollars

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Speaker 4: over the length of the eight year deal. It runs

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Speaker 4: through twenty thirty three. Kurt Signetti not going anywhere, staying

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Speaker 4: in Bloomington.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wait wait, wait is eleven point per year annual

567
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Speaker 1: compensation of a list one six million dollars?

568
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Speaker 2: Yep?

569
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Speaker 1: Wow that is wow, that's fascinating.

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Speaker 9: Right.

571
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Speaker 1: We just had that conversation with rich Wrmberger about you know,

572
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Speaker 1: if you're Signetti, like, why go anywhere else? This is

573
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Speaker 1: the other issue with firing guys early is all those

574
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Speaker 1: teams that are having good years know their coaches are

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Speaker 1: going to be in the crosshairs and so they you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like Nebraska, if they decide they want to keep

577
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Speaker 1: Matt Rule, they got like another month and a half

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Speaker 1: to make him sign some gargantuan contract otherwise they'll lose

579
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Speaker 1: him and start over.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people getting rich off these coaching firings,

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Speaker 1: and Signetty has definitely earned his keep. That just seems

583
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Speaker 1: like a ton of money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with that eleven point six per year, that's top

585
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Speaker 4: five amongst coaches in college football.

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Speaker 1: Again, I'm not trying to get in anybody's pockets, and

587
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: obviously Indiana has deep ones. That's how they're able to

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Speaker 1: feel these teams. I do think though, there's got to

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Speaker 1: be a world where some of these coaches go like, hey,

590
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Speaker 1: five is enough, five millions enough. You can put some

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Speaker 1: money in an annuity for when I'm done. But I

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Speaker 1: would I would much prefer five more in to the

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Speaker 1: collective so we can get even better players, because then

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Speaker 1: you keep winning. But that's that's just me.

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Speaker 9: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 9: radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: What's your least favorite misuse of the English language or

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Speaker 1: is it your is it your favorite misuse? Or your

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00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: your favorite pet peeve or your least favorite pet peeve?

601
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: Big, biggest pet peeve, biggest.

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00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: Biggest pet peeve, biggest pet peeve? Did you have one?

603
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: Chase two?

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00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: Oh, I've got lots of them. I judge people all

605
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Speaker 2: the time. But malaprops, malaprops in general, uh kind of

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Speaker 2: proved to me how uneducated you are. Malaprops for those

607
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Speaker 2: who don't know, or when you use a word and

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Speaker 2: mean to use a different word that sounds the same.

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Speaker 1: I think, okay, and and help me out if I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong with malaprops. But it's also you have a

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Speaker 1: tendency to use a more wordy word malapropism. Right, it's

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Speaker 1: the incorrect use of a word in a place that

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Speaker 1: similar sound, either unintentionally or for comedic effect. Right, it

614
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Speaker 1: so funny. Mala prompts are great, but sometimes they're unintentionally funny.

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00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: I view malpromptism as when people try to use big

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Speaker 1: words to sound smart and they misuse them. Is that accurate?

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00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know the most famous malprop in

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00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: the history of American literature is in the Adventures of

619
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: Huckleberry Fan, when the snake oil salesman tells a group

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Speaker 2: of people that he has a h he has the

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Speaker 2: cure for all the deceased.

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Speaker 5: Wow, bring them back from the dead.

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Speaker 1: Damn buy what's your what's your?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 1: Would you say this?

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Speaker 4: I always thought it was browning points until about twenty

627
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Speaker 4: years ago when I was dating a girl and I

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Speaker 4: said something about browning points. She's like, it's brownie points. Like,

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00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 4: what are you talking about? It's browning because I thought

630
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Speaker 4: it was kissing butt and when you would kiss butt,

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Speaker 4: maybe your nose would get brown. She goes, No, it's

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Speaker 4: brownie yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like bringing brownies to the to the office, Right, that's

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Speaker 1: the isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I thought it was that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: just I thought it was Browning.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like Jake Browning points.

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Speaker 1: Yes exactly, Jake Brian didn't score up and it made

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Speaker 1: sense to me. That's okay. Most most people, I would say,

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Speaker 1: more than fifty percent of people say it's a tough

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Speaker 1: road to hoe, and it's row to hoe. You don't

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Speaker 1: hoe a road that's impossible to hoe, you ho a row.

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Speaker 1: But correct, correct, correct, my chasty, what'd you say?

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Speaker 2: My my?

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Speaker 1: What pet peeve? My my least favorite pet peeve?

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Speaker 3: I think he's efforting my biggest pet peeve.

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Speaker 1: My biggest pet peeve is what, well, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's biggest. Yeah, biggest is what Caleb Williams said about

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Speaker 1: the criticism from Troygman. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I could care less. Uh, it's kind of how I've

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Speaker 11: I think I've said multiple times. People are gonna say

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Speaker 11: what they have to say.

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Speaker 1: We win, we lose.

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Speaker 11: People have stuff to say. It was lucky, it was

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Speaker 11: not lucky. People have stuff to say. Have a bad game,

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Speaker 11: have a good game.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 11: People have stuff to say. So it's it's it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 11: We're only worried about what's going on here within this

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Speaker 11: building and with these guys. So that's all all I

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Speaker 11: can say about that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's if you could care less, that means

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Speaker 1: you care and you could actually care less. That means

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Speaker 1: you care a lot or enough to where you could

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Speaker 1: care less.

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Speaker 5: You haven't hit rock bottom and caring.

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Speaker 1: No, that's it's I could not care less, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: care less or I could not care less. Please make

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Speaker 1: a note of it. Stett Gottlieb show here on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Rich Hornberger joins us. He's a former NFL lineman.

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Speaker 1: Remember he played college football at Penn State. He's the

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Speaker 1: host of Fox Sports Radio's Countdown to kick Off, which

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Speaker 1: airs each Saturday between nine am and noon Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: Listen live, and of our Fox Sports Radio Phillis or

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio represented by Bett MGM. Rich, let me start

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Speaker 1: with your moto at Penn State. What's your reaction to

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Speaker 1: James Franklin being fired after three straight losses?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's expected considering the time we live in in

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Speaker 6: college football, this nil era. We're at a point where

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Speaker 6: outside voices matter more to football programs than they ever have.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you have people who can donate a significant

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Speaker 6: amount of money not just to football programs, but now

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Speaker 6: directly to players, and not only just players on your roster,

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Speaker 6: but also players that you're potentially recruiting into the future.

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Speaker 6: And those people who are willing to front that type

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Speaker 6: of money have a lot more sway and consideration when

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Speaker 6: major decisions are being made about the future of said program.

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Speaker 6: So we're living in a time where the most important

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Speaker 6: word all in college football is recruitment. What started happening

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Speaker 6: with James Franklin during this three game skid is you're

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Speaker 6: hearing about players, you know, wavering on their commitments to

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Speaker 6: Penn State, and there was, you know, a couple of decommits.

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Speaker 6: You know, you have these situations where these these people

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Speaker 6: who have invested resources into the football program are looking

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Speaker 6: at the future of the football program and understanding where

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Speaker 6: college football is going, where it's going to lean mightily

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Speaker 6: on retaining great players, keeping the players you have in house,

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Speaker 6: but then also bringing in great players, whether it be

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Speaker 6: from high school or in the transfer portal. And if

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Speaker 6: you have a situation where all of a sudden you

701
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Speaker 6: have an unpopular place to go to as a result

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Speaker 6: of the results of the season, you unfortunately have to

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Speaker 6: make a move. Now, this is nothing about the character

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Speaker 6: of the man. I think James Franklin is a good

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Speaker 6: guy and he's he's a heck of a recruiter and

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Speaker 6: a heck of a ball coach. But he really struggled.

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Speaker 6: You know that the record is the record in games

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Speaker 6: against top ten opponents. Uh, it's been it's been a

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Speaker 6: dearth of wins. And there's been a lot more attention

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Speaker 6: paid to that recently than ever before because of how

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Speaker 6: much better the conference has gotten through realignment.

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Speaker 1: I understand all that. I mean, the decommitment thing, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it really kind of means nothing to me. And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why, Rich is, when you fire the coach,

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Speaker 1: everybody's decommitting like you're lose. You're gonna lose ninety of

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Speaker 1: the team, right, That's that's the reality to it. But

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Speaker 1: I look, I I do understand. I I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: Why do it?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 1: That's that's my question. Why wouldn't you just let them

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Speaker 1: coach the coaching you can. You can make the exact

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Speaker 1: same move. And if anything, if if Matt Rules really

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Speaker 1: your guy, you're giving Nebraska. You know, like a month

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Speaker 1: and a half have to figure out how they can

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Speaker 1: form a contract that he can't get out of or

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's really kind of what you do. Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: you put them in much better or you know, you

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Speaker 1: give them a shorter window to come back from what

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Speaker 1: it's likely to be an offer.

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Speaker 6: Well, you're looking at this very rationally, and I think

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Speaker 6: a lot of times these decisions aren't necessarily based off

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Speaker 6: of rationality and they're more emotional decisions. And I completely

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Speaker 6: agree with you. I think strategically, tactically, there's a better

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Speaker 6: way to go about all of this. I think that

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Speaker 6: James Franklin, like I said, is a heck of a

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Speaker 6: football coach. I don't think one three game slide is

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Speaker 6: necessarily what warrants are firing, you know. I mean, you

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Speaker 6: can certainly again harken back to the record against top

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Speaker 6: ten teams and say, like this is a problem historically

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Speaker 6: with his tenure as a head coach. But the reality is,

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Speaker 6: I feel like there were a lot of people either

742
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Speaker 6: within the program or on the outside, with close ties

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Speaker 6: to the program, but we're tired of seeing those high

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Speaker 6: profile losses and were waiting for the best possible evidence

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Speaker 6: or excuse to make the decision, and so strategically, maybe

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Speaker 6: for them it made a lot of sense to wait

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Speaker 6: for the lowest point of his coaching career with Penn State.

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Speaker 6: And there's no doubt that this, you know, the loss

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Speaker 6: to Oregon and then the you know, the consecutive losses

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Speaker 6: to UCLA on the road, and then the home game

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Speaker 6: against Northwestern were you know, you know that compilation of

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Speaker 6: losses was the low point. But goodness gracious, I mean,

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Speaker 6: doesn't mean that it's a lost season. Doesn't mean that

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Speaker 6: you need to move on from the coach immediately. No, no,

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Speaker 6: of course it doesn't. And and tactically there there was

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Speaker 6: probably a better way to go about all of it.

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Speaker 6: But I don't think they were necessarily worried about tactics.

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Speaker 6: They were more worried about, Hey, what's going to feel

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Speaker 6: good right now? Even if it costs us a little

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Speaker 6: bit more money, even if it potentially costs us our

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Speaker 6: targeted coaching higher, at least we were able to tear

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Speaker 6: the band aid off when there was a moment where

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Speaker 6: it felt right to do so. And so I agree

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Speaker 6: with you, Doug. I think the why, the why is

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Speaker 6: because there was there was enough groundswell of emotion behind

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Speaker 6: the decision to do this right now, and I think

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Speaker 6: that's as far as anybody thought.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the

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Speaker 1: voice of Rich Ormberg. Of course you can hear him

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Speaker 1: on count had to kickoff every Saturday here on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, presented by bet MGM. Huge weekend in college football.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask about Oklahoma, right, you know, here

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Speaker 1: they were rolling along, then they go into the Red

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Speaker 1: River rivalry. Texas comes limping in in Texas Thompson. Now

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Speaker 1: they go to South Carolina. South this is like their

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Speaker 1: last game in which they they're face probably likely to

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Speaker 1: be favored or definitely favorite body as many points. What's

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on OU bouncing back from last week?

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Speaker 6: I mean, is it possible? Yeah? But South Carolina all

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Speaker 6: of a sudden is looking a little bit more like

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Speaker 6: what we were supposed to seek. How South Carolina look

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Speaker 6: like to start the season. You know a lot of

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Speaker 6: people were really high on Lenora Sellers as a potential

784
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Speaker 6: Heisman selection. I think I think that boat is probably

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Speaker 6: much farther from shore than it was to start the season.

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Speaker 6: But in terms of Oklahoma, I mean, can they write

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Speaker 6: the ship?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Do I have a tremendous amount of faith that they're

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Speaker 6: going to write the ship. No, To be perfectly honest

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Speaker 6: with you, I think that I think that joining the

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Speaker 6: SEC was one of those things that they had to do.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it was it was necessarily the best

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Speaker 6: thing for the football program, I think, but they had

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Speaker 6: to do it. And I think the weekend week out

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Speaker 6: rigor of competition in that conference has worn down that

797
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Speaker 6: roster more than predicted over the past couple of seasons,

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Speaker 6: and I think it may take another year or two

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Speaker 6: of roster construction to be able to compete with the

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Speaker 6: type of talent that you have floating around the SEC

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Speaker 6: and getting used to taking on the level of competition

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Speaker 6: they're facing in the SEC on a year and a

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Speaker 6: year out basis.

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Speaker 1: Rich let me ask you about Vanderbilt. They're a home

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Speaker 1: favorite against LSU. This is not your this is not

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Speaker 1: our Vanderbilt that that's competing LSU. After looking great first

807
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Speaker 1: week the season at Clemson, we find out Clemson's just okay.

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Speaker 1: Their offense is kind of stuck. Can Vanderbilt beat LSU

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Speaker 1: at home? Will they beat ls at home?

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Speaker 6: Vanderbilt is capable of beating, of hosting and beating top

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Speaker 6: level teams. Vanderbilt gives a real run at I mean,

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Speaker 6: like you know, look, I don't want to overstate. I

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Speaker 6: don't want to overstate like the for example, the game

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Speaker 6: against Alabama they lost by two scores, was a two scores.

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Speaker 6: I think the final is thirty to fourteen. But like

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Speaker 6: when you look at that game, for example, like you know,

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Speaker 6: is Bama the nick Sabanbama? No, does Bama have a

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Speaker 6: defense like they used to? Know? Do I think that

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Speaker 6: Emma could potentially compete for a national championship maybe this year,

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Speaker 6: maybe not, but but Vandy absolutely can sneak up on teams.

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Speaker 6: And LSU has had some head scratching moments already this season.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I don't I don't. I don't put that

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Speaker 6: out of them the realm of possibility, because Vanderbilt usually

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Speaker 6: has one or two really really sneaky punches in them

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Speaker 6: each season, and this could be.

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Speaker 1: It definitely could be. It another big game in Athens, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the SEC is just stacked. This week you

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Speaker 1: had Tennessee Obama. But of course you know with with

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Speaker 1: Georgia a team that has lost at home, right, they

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Speaker 1: lost at home, but it was it was to Alabama.

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Speaker 1: This is a gigantic game against Old Miss. What do

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Speaker 1: you like in the Old Miss Georgia game.

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Speaker 6: I like Georgia, I think, I mean, we we know,

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Speaker 6: we know what it is. It's it's it's hard to

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Speaker 6: win between the hedges. I mean that is that is

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Speaker 6: the place that classically has hosted some horror shows for

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Speaker 6: for uh for s visiting SEC teams. And you know,

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Speaker 6: you have a team in Old Miss who I think

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Speaker 6: has an abundance of confidence, and I thin that is

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Speaker 6: earned and should be recognized with the win over LSU.

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Speaker 6: But I look, it takes a special group to be

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Speaker 6: able to go into that place and leave with the W.

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Speaker 6: So I'm leaning Georgia here. However, again, the same way

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Speaker 6: we were just talking about Bama is the way I'll

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Speaker 6: talk about Georgia. I mean, this isn't This isn't Georgia

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Speaker 6: two or three years ago, even where they were, you know,

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Speaker 6: pumping out national championship visits. It feels like they've taken

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Speaker 6: a little bit of a step down. I think in

849
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Speaker 6: college football overall, there's more parody than there's been in years,

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Speaker 6: and I do think that is the leveling off or

851
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Speaker 6: chilling factor that the nil era has had on college football.

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Speaker 6: I think you're seeing a lot of teams being able

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Speaker 6: to compete at a higher level and stand toe to

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Speaker 6: toe with you know, these standard national powers because you

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Speaker 6: know they they they're able to recruit and retain the

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Speaker 6: talent now as long as they have d pockets, or

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Speaker 6: they're spending the money in the right places, or they

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Speaker 6: happen to have a year where they're getting lucky or

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Speaker 6: fortunate with their injury situation. But having said all that,

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Speaker 6: it's a tough place to win in Georgia, So I'll

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Speaker 6: take the dogs at home.

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Speaker 1: Steut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the

863
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Speaker 1: voice of Rich Ornberger. Rich let me ask you about Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Like they go in and beat and beat Organ at

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Speaker 1: Organ and you got a coach who's won. He's got

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Speaker 1: some swag too. He's got this funny, quirky, super confident presentation.

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Speaker 1: Do you stay there signetti? Like I get you could

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Speaker 1: probably make a jump, But I think he Indiana's got

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Speaker 1: a ton of money and they've never been anything. And

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Speaker 1: now there's something I don't know, Like again, in the

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Speaker 1: in the in the last fifty years, you'd always leave

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Speaker 1: to go to a Penn State, or to an Arkansas

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Speaker 1: landscape has changed. Whereas if they fund them the way

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Speaker 1: I think they're funded, do you just stay there?

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, this is this is one of those

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Speaker 6: personal questions that unless you know the man and unless

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Speaker 6: you know the thought process, you won't have the answer.

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Speaker 6: And I guess we'll find out soon. But you laid

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Speaker 6: it out perfectly, Doug. And you know, you've been watching

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Speaker 6: we've all seen it. You know, you can have a

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Speaker 6: very long and prosperous career setting down deep roots out

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Speaker 6: you know, welcoming alumni to participate and be actively involved,

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Speaker 6: and they can do so more than ever, you know,

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Speaker 6: given the times and how they've changed. And you know,

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Speaker 6: basically it's like open donation to the players, pocketbooks and

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Speaker 6: all the things we know about college football right now.

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Speaker 6: But you know, there's there's also that other side to

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Speaker 6: you know, to grasp that life's golden ring to have

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Speaker 6: an opportunity to be one of those names that's you know,

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Speaker 6: And then on top of that, obviously the goal doesn't

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Speaker 6: stop there. You know, your hope is to bring a

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Speaker 6: national championship. That's what you're fighting for. To take it

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Speaker 6: a step further, you know, an opportunity like Penn State.

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Speaker 6: I mean, how often is that going to come around

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Speaker 6: during the prime of signettes years. I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 6: is there going to be another round of hirings or

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Speaker 6: firings while he's still at the tippy top of the

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Speaker 6: mountain in terms of names available on the coaching carousel,

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Speaker 6: Where he's going to even be be considered for a

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Speaker 6: job like that, I mean, I don't know, and he

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Speaker 6: doesn't either, and so you got factor that into this

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Speaker 6: equation too. Do I think it's likely that he stays

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Speaker 6: at Indiana? No, Because I mean, if we're going to

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Speaker 6: look at the numbers, if we're going to look at

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Speaker 6: the stats on coaches who have moved on after having

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Speaker 6: success at a smaller program going to a bigger program,

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's literally how he landed the Indiana job.

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Speaker 6: Where was he before that?

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Speaker 2: Was at? I up?

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I forget, I forget what school.

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Speaker 1: Is James Madison. Remember remember they had they had Tom

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Speaker 1: Allen a couple of years ago and he was king

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Speaker 1: Tom Allen's out of a job a couple years later

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Speaker 1: because he stayed at Indiana instead of making the gym. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's a good point.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we've seen it happen there before. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 6: do I think the Hoosiers fans are really excited for

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Speaker 6: the the what he's done for them. Absolutely. Do I

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Speaker 6: think he's excited for what he's been able to do

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Speaker 6: for them. Absolutely? But do I think the likeliest scenario

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