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Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club. Morning.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We

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Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in

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Speaker 1: the building, some special guests. Yes, guess Division, What up?

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Speaker 1: What up? What up? Morning? You got individual names? Good

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Speaker 1: night Daniel, Right, Daniel, Welcome, it's your first time here.

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Speaker 1: But people that don't know who Division is, breakdown who

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Speaker 1: you are? Where y'are from? Um? Division is uh singer

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Speaker 1: producer Combo. I'm the singer of the group. This is

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Speaker 1: the producer from Toronto. UM. Yeah, and we are trying

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Speaker 1: to own R and B right now. You're signed the

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Speaker 1: Drake's Ovio sound right? Yeah? How's that been? You know a

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Speaker 1: a lot of people say artist shouldn't sign the other artists.

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Speaker 1: How how's that been? Why? Why do you think people

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Speaker 1: say that, I don't know. I'm not an artist. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. People will usually say that when they signed

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Speaker 1: to an autist, you'll never get bigger than the artist

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Speaker 1: that you actually signed. That's not true. He got signed away, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it always pans out. I mean, we're we're we're

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Speaker 1: kind of self contained, so we don't really look outside

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Speaker 1: to anybody to like have to give us the alleyup

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Speaker 1: or you know, come in and write the song for

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Speaker 1: us or do anything like that. So we really kind

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Speaker 1: of just stay in our our space, make what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna make, and then kind of go out. We've been

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Speaker 1: lucky to have some dope fans that have kind of

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Speaker 1: really you know, help us get to this place and

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Speaker 1: like showed out to all the shows and know the

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Speaker 1: lyrics and the songs, and you know, um have been

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Speaker 1: supporting the whole thing. I mean, Angela, you know, she's

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Speaker 1: She's I've always loved division. Let me ask you this though,

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Speaker 1: when you guys, when Drake debut, you guys on over

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Speaker 1: your radio, did you already know, like what's the deal done? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So how did all of that happen? Is at that

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Speaker 1: point I was working with him, We were working on Views.

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Speaker 1: I think that's why we're working on the Views album.

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Speaker 1: And I got a spot to do like a DJ

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Speaker 1: segment on Opio Sign Radio, So I was like, I'll

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Speaker 1: play whatever I want, so I might as well play

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Speaker 1: my own group. Oh yeah, do you all feel like

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Speaker 1: he stands next to Yard the way the way that

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Speaker 1: he should, because you know, you look at other artists

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Speaker 1: that are signed. The other artists like you'll see Ross

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Speaker 1: with his guys, you saw it Hold with his guys

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Speaker 1: back and even Wayne. Wayne is the great extent, but

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Speaker 1: always stood next to Young Money. I feel like he

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Speaker 1: stays the next yard the way you should. I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's it's that's up to everybody else to kind

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Speaker 1: of like figure out what they think is what they should.

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Speaker 1: As far as we feel, we just we are thankful

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Speaker 1: for anything that we get at this point, you know,

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Speaker 1: anybody that that has given us the opportunities that that

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Speaker 1: have helped us get here, we're just thankful for. Like

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, but when we signed, he not only

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Speaker 1: put us on Views, which is one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: albums of the time obviously, and right after that we

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Speaker 1: were on a tour with him. We did Summer sixteen,

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Speaker 1: right so that Alane And it's like whether you whether whatever,

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Speaker 1: however much you stand, you post you Instagram or you

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Speaker 1: don't like, please give you. Yeah, We're thankful for We

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Speaker 1: just take anything and turn it into energy. When people

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Speaker 1: were trying to figure out who Division was at first,

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Speaker 1: what are some of the craziest things you heard? Because

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Speaker 1: it was a lot of like who is division? How

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Speaker 1: many people are in the group? I mean people thought that,

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Speaker 1: people thought he was singing, People thought it was me.

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Speaker 1: That was because he had kind of had a name already.

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Speaker 1: He did hotline blame, he did too much, he did

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Speaker 1: What else did you have at the time? Hold on,

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Speaker 1: we're going home? You got some money? He already had

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Speaker 1: all that. So by the time by the time people

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Speaker 1: were trying to figure out division, they were trying they

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Speaker 1: were confused with whether it was him, whether there was

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Speaker 1: like a huge group behind it because they heard like

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Speaker 1: girl voices and choir voices, because we usually used to

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Speaker 1: choir in songs like like too Deep and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: So I think people were kind of like, oh, there

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Speaker 1: And you know it was it was me singing and producing.

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Speaker 1: Too Deep is one of my favorite songs to put

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Speaker 1: on like a love making type of playlist, Right, So

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Speaker 1: can you talk about the meaning behind that because you

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Speaker 1: try to say it's not about like not pulling out, No,

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Speaker 1: it is, but it's the double meaning because it plays

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Speaker 1: on you know, when you're into deep, into you know,

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Speaker 1: really just was like, man, they're not pulling out, but

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Speaker 1: then yes, it isn't. Yeah, that's good for people know

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Speaker 1: that because then you know that. Uh. If I get

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Speaker 1: caught recording the first toxic record y'all made, then why

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Speaker 1: is too deep talking? That's toxic? What is the definition record? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What is the definition of toxic? Not pulling out? Its

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Speaker 1: toxic is child birth and beautiful procreation? M a random woman?

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Speaker 1: Okay you can. You have to have context, then you can't.

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Speaker 1: You didn't say that, you you just said a couple

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Speaker 1: of times I'm married. Do you'll ever listen to home

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Speaker 1: music like when you're sex? No? No, never, never. That's

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Speaker 1: like jacking off to put it off? How do you

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Speaker 1: hook up with your main dore and whose idea was

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Speaker 1: if I can? Okay, Jermaine was well. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: our our management team at helvran Um. They kind of

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Speaker 1: put together the first session and it was it just

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Speaker 1: ended up being me and Jermaine just just there and

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Speaker 1: at in Atlanta, in Atlanta and Suside and yeah. Literally

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Speaker 1: felt like we were like brothers. Like that was just

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Speaker 1: like like a big brother children, you know, absolutely five.

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Speaker 1: So you know it's the relationship just kind of grew

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Speaker 1: and grew and grew. It's like I'm you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: having Christmas and New Year's Eve that his house just

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Speaker 1: met him is Tina like him and his mom. You know,

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Speaker 1: Like the relationship just really built. And if I get

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Speaker 1: caught was already we were already a bunch of records

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Speaker 1: As soon as he opened the door, he's like, and

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Speaker 1: And so he walked into the studio. B Cox is

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Speaker 1: already there playing strings and keys and stuff. And eighty

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Speaker 1: oh my god, and I sat down and I wrote

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Speaker 1: these verses. Now the song, I think I think that

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Speaker 1: on first listen, you people hear one thing, maybe even

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Speaker 1: second and third not a video. The video gives it

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Speaker 1: more content, a little bit more content, but I still

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Speaker 1: feel like, um, some people are still a little bit

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Speaker 1: confused abut what I'm actually talking about. Well, explain, because

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Speaker 1: is it safe to say that record is toxic? No,

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Speaker 1: definitely about that record everybody. Before you explain, continue with

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Speaker 1: the story how the jay Z sample came about and

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Speaker 1: all that, Oh okay you want to say. With the

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Speaker 1: jay Z sample, we were kind of just talking back

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, mmm, I don't know if we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get that cleared. And Jemaine's like, yo, you do what

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Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, you leave that to me. So

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Speaker 1: I did it, and still I was kind of thinking,

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Speaker 1: And then in the group chat, he just he sent

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Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why people think it's toxic too,

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Speaker 1: because jay Z said it is even more toxic than Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just hear more women saying that than anything. Nah,

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Speaker 1: it's honestly, it's not. It's not toxic at all. Explain explain. So, Um,

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Speaker 1: people hear the song and they think I'm saying, Yo,

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Speaker 1: I'm cheating on you. Eat that or hold that, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of that kind of vibe. Um. The record, for one,

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Speaker 1: The whole song is me talking about being in a

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Speaker 1: address it from the standpoint of somebody that's like noticing that, Yo,

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Speaker 1: everything that used to attract that attracted you to me,

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Speaker 1: as I'll, turned into your insecurity. Ye, you wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: me if other girls didn't want me. Yeah. The whole

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Speaker 1: say that. It's not that point. It's the it's the

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Speaker 1: it's the hook. But even whatever, let me keep going. No,

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Speaker 1: everything is me addressing, like this is why you like? This?

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Speaker 1: Is this all the things that have turned into and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we can all be in situations that men

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Speaker 1: insecurities because you realize other people like them. Correct. I

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Speaker 1: always watch my penis in the sink when I come home.

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Speaker 1: You like, come on, wow, oh my god, what I've

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Speaker 1: actually never done that? You haven't done it a little bit. Never,

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Speaker 1: I've never done the penis sink. You're not gonna give

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Speaker 1: no contact to that. You're just gonna that's what people do.

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Speaker 1: You know, My guys cheat we're talking about I know,

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Speaker 1: y'all cool, Maybe y'all that's why do that? When they cheat,

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Speaker 1: they wash their penis in the sink, Because why do.

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Speaker 1: They can just take a regular show exactly what you

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Speaker 1: get caught. They don't want to run home and take

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Speaker 1: a shower. That's when chet take a shower where you at?

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Speaker 1: Has this happened to you before? I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's happened because I haven't witnessed it, but I know

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Speaker 1: guys have said that they just bath. It's called the

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Speaker 1: bath when I never heard that either. Back to Penis

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Speaker 1: in the sink and watch. You're a guy, right, aren't y'all?

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Speaker 1: Guys I've never put my I'm trying to Penis. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm back, but let me get back to let im saying.

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Speaker 1: So now the insecurity to turn to the point where

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Speaker 1: doing all these these things to try to find something right,

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Speaker 1: and then you have to get into the psychology of

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Speaker 1: trying to find something. It's like, are you trying to

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Speaker 1: find something to be upset or you trying to find

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Speaker 1: something so you can find a way to leave? Right?

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Speaker 1: And my whole thing with this is, okay, So if

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Speaker 1: it's to leave, why would you why why would you

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Speaker 1: want to leave somebody? Because when even if I was

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll have you on the weekend and then

424
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 1: you can go back to whatever you're doing throughout the week, Like,

425
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: isn't that kind of crazy? Side chick anthems have been

426
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: around for a long time, isn't that kind of crazy

427
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: because somebody's cheating in that scenario like s WV, Like

428
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 1: I'm so into you all of those records like Little Secret,

429
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: I like being I like being the same thing with

430
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: you and your girlfriend. The fact that she don't really

431
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: turn me on, Yeah like it. I think that I

432
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: think there would go it would it would go super crazy.

433
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean we're fortunate to that that The tide is

434
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, shifted as far as it went

435
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: from like shock and almost outraged to like people being like,

436
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: but it's a bob though, people like, oh, super catchy

437
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: someone to my head and you know, I'm not gonna lie.

438
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: I like the song. And it's a lot of women

439
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: now that are admitting and the ones putting the selfie

440
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: videos up and playing the song, so it's beautiful. I mean,

441
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 1: yesterday we found out, you know, it's the number one

442
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: most added song Urban radio for this week. So you

443
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: know I didn't like about the record was the sample.

444
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: To be honest with, I didn't think you needed. Nah.

445
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: I like the hook. I mean the hook was better.

446
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: Oh you just said, oh you didn't like you just

447
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: think it wasn't necessary. No, I still love that. That

448
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: made me feel extra. I'm a hip hopcast though, so

449
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: that just made me feel like And it's even just

450
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: to read text between Jay and j D just for

451
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: that that sake alone. I mean, where did Jay tell

452
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: Jad to put that text out? Was that part of

453
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: the rollout? No, Jay didn't tell him to do it.

454
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: They didn't tell him asking you just gonna do that.

455
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: What do you think about this generation of RB UM.

456
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be in great hands with the vision.

457
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: I think this generation of R and B listener is

458
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: different than before. Before people would all kind of flock

459
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: to the same thing. Now, there's so many different types

460
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: of R and B that you can get into, but

461
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: people keep complaining about the one they want to hear

462
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: not being the biggest. But it's like, you can go

463
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: and listen to whatever you want. It's there. I love

464
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: the R and bds out right now. There's so much

465
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: to take in, but there's always this conversation of oh,

466
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: it's not like the nineties, it's not like the two thousands,

467
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: but even that stuff it's around, like you can find it.

468
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: I think it's just so much easier to focus on

469
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: the toxic R and B or the not as singer

470
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: songwriter oriented R and B and be like, oh, this

471
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: isn't what I'm used to. I think a lot of

472
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: times it's just too much music. It's a lot to consume, right,

473
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: so you don't sit with stuff as much, you know

474
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I will say this, no matter

475
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: what party i'm djane, if it's a twenty one year

476
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: old party, an eighteen year old party, or thirty year

477
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: old party, they know everything from can't stand in the

478
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: rain to you know, to to y'all. So I think

479
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: that's dope too. It is it's music that sticks, you know,

480
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: And as far as toxic content. It's always been toxic content.

481
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: I just think the only difference is the presentation now,

482
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: like some of these R and B singers be rapping

483
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: instead of singing it. You know, a lot of a

484
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: lot of these singers, a lot of the singers, they're

485
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: not really singers people. You know, we'd like to hear

486
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: taxic songs sung beautifully. I think, like if you think

487
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: about like secret lovers back in the day and like

488
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: I said, Whitney Houston saving all my love for you,

489
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: she's you know, he's with his family and I'm here

490
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: waiting for you. The songs that sung beautifully, but what

491
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: are they about? Yeah, did you ever think about putting

492
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: the future on the record? No, shout out the future.

493
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: Shout out the future. That's that's the homy. But no,

494
00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 1: we we wanted this. I mean it has such a

495
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: it has such a traditional R and B M vibe

496
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: to it. When it's stripped down, I think it's the

497
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: big eight of weights and the thing that makes it.

498
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: You know, but that's good because it's what has people

499
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: singing it in the clubs and bumping it out right.

500
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: But um, at the core of it, it's like three

501
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: or four timing ballad that like Jermaine was in there

502
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: really like on some like blues you know when he

503
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: made that record. So when he made that try that

504
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: hook and that that that that part of it. So um,

505
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't imagining some any like a trap

506
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: rapper or you know any of that. I just he

507
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that this was an Armby record.

508
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: He's so proud to be like, Yo, they're playing an

509
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: R and B record in Magic right now and it's

510
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: going off like like a little baby record in here,

511
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, and it's an R and B like we're

512
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: making R and B important like, and it's beautiful to

513
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: see his his passion like fueled like that and to be,

514
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, the vessel I want to talk to talk

515
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: about y'all. This is artist like like, but first of all,

516
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: how important is Drake to the Toronto music scene? Is

517
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: there a path for division without a Drake? Really is

518
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: the Toronto music scene? You know? Because before that there

519
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: was not a scene that you guys would have known. Yeah,

520
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I can think like Cardinal Ficia,

521
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: you knew people, but there wasn't necessarily a scene. Yeah,

522
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: you know, it was just like, oh wait, you're from Toronto, right,

523
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: Oh Deborah Cox, Oh she's from Toronto. But there was

524
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: no there was nothing that you could kind of attach

525
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: to anything. Yeah, and now it's like there's a sound.

526
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: You know, all of our producers, you know, well, we

527
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: have a few R and B artists. As far as

528
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: what people attached to Drake is the whole um, I

529
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: guess like the the honest and moodiness that came with

530
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: it has almost become like the Toronto sound. But that's

531
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: in everything though, like across the board, Like you go

532
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: to the UK, it's there. You go to Atlanta, it's there,

533
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: you go to Legs there, And I think with that

534
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: comes the expectation that everything is going to have some

535
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: sort of Drake lineage, which in some ways it does

536
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: because it's like he's the one that like opened the

537
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: door for everybody. Like literally everybody coming out of Toronto

538
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: has to on some level be like, yeah, Drake's Drake's

539
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: the guy until your point. He created a scene, He

540
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: gave us a scene, a visual like oh okay, there's

541
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: something going on there, so so what about you? Yeah,

542
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: for sure, I mean everybody's I think everybody, all the

543
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: artists out of Toronto. They're all talented enough to have

544
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 1: you know, um, broken through at some point or had

545
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: somebody notice and really be like, oh this person like

546
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: you know from the Weekend to you know, Um Tory,

547
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: Daniel Caesar, everybody that's from Toronto but party. But Drake

548
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: kind of like put C four on the door and

549
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: kind of blew it open for everyone to kind of

550
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: run in. So I don't think anybody in the city

551
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: would ever try and take that from him. Though, what

552
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: did he think about this record? Did you send it

553
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: to him first? And we haven't. We have literally have

554
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: not talked to anybody about any song on this project

555
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: yet at all. Really literally, I'm telling you we've just

556
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: been in Southside, just literally in our own zone. So

557
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's a good question. We should we should

558
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: hit him up and be like, what's going on? But

559
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, um, I'm I'm positive he's he's

560
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: seeing and hearing you know, what's going on, and you

561
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: know he's he's always Um I would I would think

562
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: always happy when you know this not only the city

563
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: gets to win, but when you know the team gets

564
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: to win. I let that you guys are, like you said,

565
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: just kind of like doing your own thing and being

566
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: successful without feeling like you have to rely on the coast.

567
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: We're still doing sould out shows. Like you said, everybody's

568
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: singing the lyrics and people know you and it's not

569
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: like we gotta get Drake on the record in order

570
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: for this to pop up. Some people don't even make

571
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: that correlation. They just think division's division. I think that.

572
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: I love that. I love I love the fact that

573
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: we we stand behind our brand that strong and we

574
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: are able to, you know, just stand on our own too.

575
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's stronger if you can, you can do that.

576
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: I think. So what was the vision doing prior to

577
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: all of this, Like, what's the scene like in Toronto

578
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: when you're just some aspiring artists trying to get on

579
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: Is it open mics? Is it going to the radio

580
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: station with your music? Like what is this? This whole

581
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: city was like that, the that there's one radio station

582
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: that will play your music. We was doing that for

583
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: a little bit, but like blow, yeah, you were you. Yeah,

584
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: I think we're talking about Donald Trump too much at

585
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: the time, and it got us right out of it.

586
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was it was like that, you know,

587
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's really it's super crabbing. It's almost

588
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: like what people you used to hear about New York

589
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: and other places where it's like, you know, if you

590
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 1: can make it there, you can make it anywhere type thing,

591
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: because literally nobody was making it. There was nobody that

592
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: had made it. Wow, it's like and we've been here

593
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: just as long as everyone else. So that's what the

594
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: city is kind of in its own special thing because

595
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: almost like we waited way longer than everyone else. And

596
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: I know, you guys, for you guys, it's like, you know,

597
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: Canada over there somewhere. But because we're so close to

598
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: New York, we and we have New York stations, Buffalo stations, USTv,

599
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: we feel like we're right there. So we're almost watching

600
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: every city blow up before us and nothing happening over here.

601
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: So I think the whole city was kind of almost

602
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: clicking up on their own, trying to be the first

603
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: to make it. And if you weren't a part of them,

604
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: then you know, whatever, we don't care. So it wasn't

605
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: it was not a huge support as far as the

606
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: locals until you until Drake happened. And when Drake happened

607
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: and it started becoming cooler to say, hey, you know

608
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: they did it, I mean we did it, you know,

609
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: to start feeling that that ownership with things. That's when

610
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: things started really changed in the city. Like now it's like,

611
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, the city loves division, the city loves you know,

612
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: Drake Xol everybody like that, and so it's just you

613
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: guys also did that whole collab. But ty Dollars signed

614
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: Cheers to the How is that balanced working with ty

615
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: Dollars sign, you know, and going and doing a whole

616
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: project with him and even making that decision. First off,

617
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: Tie is crazy. Tie is Tie bounces off off the

618
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: wall every day. It's it's it's crazy. His creative process

619
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: is nuts. Like he'll literally sit there and make easily

620
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: make six seven songs a day, every day, every day,

621
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: every single day. He is the kind of guy that

622
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: will be like, Yo, come to the studio at seven.

623
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: You'll come to the studio at seven and he call

624
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: me on outside. He'll be like, oh, I'm in Oakland.

625
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: What you know. He's that kind of guy. He's just

626
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: like he's so in the moment and he's such a

627
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: creative that it's it's um, I don't know, it's it's

628
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: it's it's hilarious to watch. But he that that process

629
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: that we had was literally came about because of that,

630
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: because he told me to come out there and do

631
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: a record with him. So I flew out. He was

632
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: on tour, hopped on the tour bus. He's like, I

633
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: gotta studio on the tour bus. Cool, let's make a song,

634
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: sat in the back. Three days later, we have five songs.

635
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: He's talking about putting out an EP together, and I

636
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: was just like, this is not what what the plan was.

637
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: You know, every day with him is like a whole

638
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: new adventure. Shout out the tide, by the way, but

639
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: a whole new adventure that he just like head first

640
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: jumps into, which which I think is what keeps his

641
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: energy in the songs and his like spontaneousness so high

642
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: because you can hear it in the records. Right. He's

643
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: just kind of like it's whatever. He can be on

644
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: a rock song one day, a d M song the

645
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: next day, or you know, a hip hop song and

646
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: then break it down, just do R and B. When

647
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: did you guys do? I believed it because Mac Miller's

648
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: preached on that song. I think that's such a standout

649
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: song that was right before he passed, literally right before

650
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: he passed, when we got his final verse because he

651
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: came to the studio. Matt came to the studio. UM

652
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: heard the record, loved it. He recording, and then he

653
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: left and he said, I don't really like my verse.

654
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm a son. Another one, sent another one back and

655
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: if and maybe like a week and like three days

656
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: after that he was gone. Damn. So it was. It was.

657
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: It was tough. It was tough, and I was just

658
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: getting to really know him, and you know, UM understand

659
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: how why he was such a loved person, because when

660
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: once you get around him, he's just like, oh, it's

661
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: kind of dope. Good dude. You know, good dude. How

662
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: much how much other work have y'all done behind the

663
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: scenes in the industry, like you was far production writing? Um,

664
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: I done a lot. I did uh one dance. I

665
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: did get Along Better on the Last Trick album. I

666
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: did Truffle Butter, I did on the Way Black Time.

667
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: I did, um what else I do? I've done so

668
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: many things. I did the Bryson Tiller Drake single, I

669
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: did oh. I did get the fuck out for Mariah Carey.

670
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: I did I've done so many, so many things that

671
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: are just kind of like I do it, keep it moving.

672
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: But it's kind of been interesting the last few years because, like,

673
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a whole double career that

674
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: people don't know. Like people who know me as nineteen

675
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: eighty five producer a lot of times don't necessarily know

676
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm in division. People that know me from division don't

677
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: necessarily know, like I've been making hits on the other

678
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: side of the things. So whenever they hear the two

679
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: come together, they're like, oh, like, how do you like?

680
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: How do you even have time to balance that? I'm like, honestly,

681
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't even know how I do it, because I'm

682
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: just like going back and beside division. Besides Dreck, who

683
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: do you like to work with? More creative? And why?

684
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Who I like to work with? Um? I loved working

685
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: with Travis I did um coffee Bean on Astra World

686
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: Future added tricks on me? Who else do I love working?

687
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: You've been out here? Can you sing it all? I

688
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: can sing enough to tell him what to sing? Have

689
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: you ever done a reference track? I can been like

690
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: I should No, I really like I can tell somebody

691
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: like sing it like this, But have I done a

692
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: reference track. I maybe recorded something just for someone to

693
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: like mimic that, But I've ever been like, I might

694
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 1: want to just hap on this a little something. Yes,

695
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: and no, like I do that in my own It's

696
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: the first time I've done that at my own time,

697
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: because I'm just like that creative. So yeah, I've made

698
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: records before, and I've recorded myself. I've wrapped a song. Um.

699
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: I used to be in a punk band. Um. I.

700
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: My thing is if I were to do that, I

701
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily want to be in producer mode while doing

702
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: that at the same time. But I love producing in

703
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: the punk band. Did you play an instrument or yeah?

704
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: I was the backup singer and the guitar player. I

705
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: wrote all the songs. What was the bedest name? We

706
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: had a bunch of horrible names, but coffee double the Cream.

707
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: All types of things, the worst, the worst that didn't

708
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: happen happened coffee double the Cream. We don't need Nobody

709
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: says that. Nobody comes up and it just said, yeah,

710
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: you coffee. Oh my god. Can we look this up

711
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: and find this online? Can we hear some songs on?

712
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: You know? I'm happy that coffee double Girl. Need you

713
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: ever hear any of this? No more? The industry is

714
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: the industry everything you thought it would be. That's far Yeah,

715
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I think so everything and not at the same time,

716
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: it's everything they told like you would hear people talking about.

717
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 1: I think you just didn't realize how much it really

718
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: is that and I really learned that when um I

719
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: remember people always just tell me you don't want to

720
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: meet your idols. And then I met a certain producer

721
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: artist I won't name them, and that experience, I was like, Oh,

722
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: that's not what I was hoping it would be. You know.

723
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: I had such high expectations, and then it was a

724
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: bit of a letdown. And that's why even us working

725
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: where Jermaine has been so amazing, because he is exactly

726
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: who you would hope him to be. You know, where

727
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people do not. You know, the industry,

728
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: it's a lot of smoking mirrors. Oh maybe that is them,

729
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Maybe that is them. You

730
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: just don't know different. Yeah, I wonder should we have

731
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: expectations with people, like when when when people don't meet

732
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: our expectations, that aren't fault of their fault, because that's

733
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 1: our fault and because the expectation is an assumption, right, Yeah,

734
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of that goes into who

735
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: you think they are as an artist or who you

736
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: think they're projecting to the world as whatever. Meanwhile, that

737
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: might just be the stage person, right, you know, that's

738
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: they're they're forward facing h image. But they might go

739
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: home and be completely different. Well, people are a bad

740
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: days could have been a bad day. If day he

741
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: could have an argument with his wife, he couldn't anything. Yeah,

742
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: is everything moving for y'all? Uh, as far as division

743
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: is concerned, things moving the way y'all want them to, Like,

744
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: you feel like y'all should be further along. I mean

745
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: one thing I've learned. I mean, yeah, I could say that.

746
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: I think we could all say that though you know,

747
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: we were even someone with a one hundred million dollars

748
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: could be like, you know, I should be at a billion,

749
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: you know by now, Um, But I've learned to just

750
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: be like, yo, you know, God's timing, God's playing. Let's

751
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: get into the r. I do have one more question,

752
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 1: because I you know, I look at the artists drinking.

753
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: I feel like drake features and and co signs of

754
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: artists do more than artists being actually signed his label, dude,

755
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, because party is fantastic. I think that,

756
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. His approach is very respectful

757
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: the creative process, and because we are signed, I think

758
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: a lot of time he's kind of just like, yo,

759
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: do you do your thing and you you call me

760
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: in when it's time. Yeah, call me in when it's time.

761
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: But before that, I don't want to even want to, like,

762
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to overstep like you guys, do what

763
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: you're doing and then let me know, you know, let

764
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: me know when you want to pass the ball off.

765
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: But that's not me, that's on you. I don't think

766
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: this way was was better because a lot of people

767
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: who don't know you know you for you, not the

768
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: Drake Coson. A lot of people didn't know y'all was

769
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: the heart true and love the music, and now when

770
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: they hear it's the Drake Cosign, now it's like, oh,

771
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: even more I like this group. So that's what I think.

772
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: So at what point do y'all do bring him in

773
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: on the process because he said he hasn't heard anything yet.

774
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: Just want to make sense musically. You know, when we

775
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: have something that what it works, you know works for

776
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: where he's at, where we're at. You know, I think

777
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: it's all really just timing with him. As you can see,

778
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: he's very smart about his music, you know, so for us,

779
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: it's like it just has to make sense for both. Well,

780
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: let's get into this toxic single right now. It's if

781
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: it triggers people, is toxic a little bit? Yeah? Yeah,

782
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: it's something triggers you that doesn't make it toxic. Yeah,

783
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: this toxic to the individual. You've never seen a movie

784
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: that's just like touched you in some kind of way,

785
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now you're just blaming the

786
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: movie and said that this is toxic. No, well, it's

787
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: because we have trauma on heal trauma, Yeah, trauma with

788
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: what was delivered. But cheating is a very traumatic thing.

789
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: But cheating is just real. Let's get the record. Is

790
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: toxic back been in a situation. It's the time when

791
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: you might turn the radio off the radio. Listen to

792
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: Daniel's explanation about the sime. Daniel's explanation, I understand it,

793
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: but I can hear a woman saying that's some bullshit. No,

794
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: they've been, they've been, they've been hearing it, and they've

795
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: been receiving it. Shout out to the ladies out there.

796
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: Let's get into the record. I want to introduce it.

797
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: If we go, this is our new record. This is division.

798
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: This is if I get caught right here Breakfast Club.

799
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: It's two minutes, thirty seconds. Good mo way