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Speaker 1: To this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. This

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Speaker 1: is Morning Combat is uh it is? Now? What day

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Speaker 1: is it today? August? It's thirtieth, I guess technically speaking,

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Speaker 1: Mortgage field House. Because Jake Paul versus Tyron Woodley is

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Speaker 1: we will break down everything we just saw at Paul

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Speaker 1: five four, three to one, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Jake Paul has defeated Tyron Woodley. The official scores are

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Speaker 1: a split decision, which frankly I did not understand at all,

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Speaker 1: but okay, let me read them to you seventy seven

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Speaker 1: and then seventy eight seventy four Paul, of course, giving

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Speaker 1: got it up here for Tyron Woodley. They gave Tyron

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Speaker 1: every round starting from round four on. It's judge Phil Rogers.

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Speaker 1: He gave Tyron Woodley none of the first three rounds. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: We knew ahead of time that Tyron had a big

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Speaker 1: what kind of score you had? But it was a

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Speaker 1: avoid it. He gave Tyron rounds five and eight, and

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Speaker 1: got some, But I don't know, you know, and I

428
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Speaker 1: respect that. I think most people who are being reasonable

429
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 1: about it would respect that. But I don't know that

430
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: there's a whole lot more you can say beyond that.

431
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: Are we supposed to say anything more? Everything? Every one

432
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: of his other gifts is about what kind of audience

433
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 1: he can attract and why that is. You know, Allegedly

434
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,239
Speaker 1: we'll see bringing in new audience members or changing up

435
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: boxing a little bit, so I I we finally got

436
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: eight rounds of footage on him. I thought he had

437
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 1: a good game plan, he had better combination work, he

438
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 1: had better footwork, and he ultimately just add more boxing

439
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: skill offensively and defensively to avoid for the most part,

440
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: the big strikes from Tyron. He took advantage of the

441
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: lulls in action. He had a decent jab, he had

442
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: good combinations, decent check hooks, good okay timing. You know,

443
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: he had enough of the boxes checked. I mean he listened.

444
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 1: Everyone wanted to be like, oh, Tyron's got all this

445
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: experience and he's got all these accolades in MMA, and

446
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: it's like right, But then you would see the tail

447
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: of the tape, just the boxing tail of the tape,

448
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: and Jake is bigger, Jake is taller. I think their reach,

449
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: I said, was equal, but I think Jake actually had

450
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: a two inch reach advantage heading into this contest. He

451
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: had three professional fights. Woodley in this context had none,

452
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: and one guy was twenty four to one guy was

453
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: nearly forty. Now, if you didn't know their names, and

454
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: you didn't know their backgrounds, and you saw the tail

455
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 1: of the tape, just like that twenty four versus forty

456
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: seventy four inch reach versus seventy two inch reach. You know,

457
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: the weighing the same, but one guy clearly bigger, right

458
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: height differential to hold one years? What was it like

459
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: a three or four in tied difference? This guy has

460
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: three competitive or three competition wins. I should say, this

461
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: guy's never done this before on a pro context, who

462
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: would you have bet on? Who would you have said

463
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: would be the one to do it? This was always

464
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: Jake Paul, not trying to finesse the public in that way,

465
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: but create a plausible scenario that he could sell to

466
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: the public that would be challenging enough that they would

467
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: be intrigued enough to buy it. With personalities they cared

468
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: to be involved. I think the personality part of the

469
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: show delivered pretty heavily. Certainly in the run up to

470
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: the fight, even after the fight, there was a little

471
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: bit of it. But for me, for me, the competitive

472
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: action was fine. It was fine, but I don't know

473
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Speaker 1: how much more appetite there's going to be for this

474
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: kind of thing, So that's not going away overnight like

475
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: this was in no way bad for Jake Paul, in

476
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: no way necessarily bad for YouTube boxing. But I'm waiting

477
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: for that day where you got the knockout with Ben Askron,

478
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: but there wasn't enough juice to make you believe it.

479
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: Ment a whole lot kind of came a little bit

480
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: too easy. He didn't really look the part. I'm waiting

481
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: for that day where you can get the thunderous ko,

482
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: the emphatic note, the thing that really sells it against

483
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: anybody that anyone cares about for any good reason. And

484
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: so far that's been hard to manage. When you look

485
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: at fights at this level, it's because you've got people

486
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: that are either inexperienced or you've got folks that you

487
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: know have too much experience, almost to put it that way,

488
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: let me go through some of the other results here

489
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: on the card, you know, let me jump around, because

490
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if people were dying talk about the

491
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: comin event. Amanda Serana was the best fighter on that

492
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 1: card in terms of pure boxing ability. But we'll come

493
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: back to her. No, we'll come back to it for

494
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: just a second gap. Let me start with the one

495
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: that opened the card, because that's sort of the most

496
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: relevant one in terms of what might be next. And again,

497
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: if your new thumbs up on this hit. Subscribe happy

498
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 1: to have you here, waiting on Brian Campbell to come

499
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: down after his hit on CBS Sports A. The Tommy

500
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: Fury US experiment not off to a strong start to me.

501
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: The strong fight tonight was the Baranchik Montana Love Fight,

502
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: which was so unbelievably good. Duboi looked amazing, Serrano had

503
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk about her in just a second.

504
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: And again I thought the main event was much better

505
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: of the two Paul brothers, but you know, it's kind

506
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: of it is what it is. But getting back to

507
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury, Tommy Fury was a guy who came in

508
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: here with a lot of buzz, but a lot of

509
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: criticisms too. The buzz was from his last name, and

510
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: the buzz was from also the fact that he has

511
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: developed a bit of a following in the UK from

512
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: being one of the more popular television shows Love Island.

513
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: If you looked at his opponents, his last one was

514
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: a lot more respectable. But he had three opponents, all

515
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: of whom had not only double digit losses, they had

516
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: no wins. I mean, there was something like this, the

517
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: combined record of like ten and one hundred and ten

518
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: something insane terrible, terrible win and lost record, And so

519
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: there were folks wondering, Okay, you know, he's got decent power,

520
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: he's got a name, certainly look looks the part, you know,

521
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: what can he do? And so there was all of

522
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: these questions about, you know, is this really just sort

523
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: of a manufactured hype job. Now, I think he's still

524
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: early enough in his run where I'm not ready to

525
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: declare that he is a manufactured hype job. However, what

526
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: I will say is that was not the performance that

527
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: he necessarily needed to win the Jake Paul Sweepstakes. Tyron

528
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: doing this whole bit at the end of the fight

529
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: kind of changes it a little bit because I wonder

530
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: if their continued rivalry via what they say to each

531
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: other is enough to drive interest or you know, matches

532
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: in Tyrone's direction. I don't really know, or maybe he

533
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: wants to go to that route with Timmy Fury, because hey,

534
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: the Tyron Woodie business is old. I don't Well, we'll

535
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: have to see. But you would thought you would have

536
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: thought that Tommy was supposed to go in here and

537
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: he had vaunted big power. He was taking on a

538
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: guy that was on one boxing seven to five in MMA,

539
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: who was significantly smaller than him. And listen, let's be clear,

540
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: Fury won every round there was supposed to be. Additionally,

541
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: I was told by Anthony Taylor initially eight, but he

542
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: got signed as six, and then he got bumped down

543
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: to four from some commission issues. So it's a four

544
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: round fight. I mean, you were training for a six,

545
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: they bumped it down to a four. You you gotta

546
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: step on the gas. And again he cleanly won. Tommy

547
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: Fiery cleanly won all four rounds. So let me say,

548
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: I've interviewed the guy a couple times now, at least,

549
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: just seen him around and talk to him. He could

550
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: not be nicer, He could not be more professional. He

551
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: could he looks the part. I think he's doing, Honest

552
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: to God, I mean this. I think he's doing his best.

553
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: I think he's trying. I think he's training. I think

554
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: he's getting out there and just trying to make his

555
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: way the best way he knows how The problem is,

556
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: as we all know. You know, he's just not his brother,

557
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: and that's an unfair comparison because most other heavyweights are

558
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe none of the other heavyweights are his

559
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: brother but the reality is it's a far cry. He

560
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: he should have knocked that guy out and stopped him

561
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: within a couple of rounds. The fact that it went

562
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: the full distance, which was granted only four and yes,

563
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: Fury hit him with some big punches to be clear,

564
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: like he was landing on him. Again, no controversy about

565
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: who won, but we were expecting. You know, if you're

566
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: watching great white sharks eat seals, you know the seal

567
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: getting a moral victory is sort of It doesn't really,

568
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't do much. Like you came here to watch

569
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: some seals take l's you need the great white shark

570
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: to hand it out. You didn't get You didn't really

571
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: get that and you got here was the other part too,

572
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: that like I thought his power was going to carry

573
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 1: against a guy who you know, this was not his opponent,

574
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: Anthony Taylor, that was not his optimal weight class, and

575
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of evidence of that. I

576
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: did not see. I did not see Fury and in

577
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: his other previous fights you can go and you can watch.

578
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: You'll see that there's it appears to be decent power

579
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: again against overmatched opposition, but still the power was there.

580
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: I didn't think Taylor was overmatched in that same way,

581
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: but I did feel like the size disparity should have

582
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: let Fury have his way with the power, and that

583
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: just wasn't the case at all. Anthony Taylor was quick,

584
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Taylor was defensively a little bit more responsible than

585
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: I thought. He was able to move in ways that

586
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: I thought was surprising, but I thought for sure Fury

587
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: was gonna get him out of there, and no chance.

588
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: So hardly a disaster for Fury. But if the goal

589
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: was to in your US debut, go in there and

590
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: wow people, the power wasn't necessarily there. Again, he cleanly

591
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: won the rounds, but the guy was so much smaller,

592
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: he didn't really I don't think. I don't think there

593
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: was any knockdowns of memory serves. There was no knockdowns

594
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: in the fight, and some of the technique kind of

595
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: felt like it was better than the technique for the

596
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: most part in the Paul and Woodleigh fight. But it

597
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: it just wasn't what I think folks were hoping for.

598
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily that. No, that sounds like I'm bagging

599
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: on the whole night. I thought. In general, the night

600
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: was for the most part a pretty big success that

601
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: the fans appeared to be happy with what they got.

602
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to them yet about the main event.

603
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: I thought that, you know, there was plenty of action

604
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: on the cards or the card overall that delivered, but

605
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: there were some key things we were looking for ahead

606
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: of time. Is Fury going to shine in his US debut?

607
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: And is there going to be a finish? Are they

608
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: going to live in sort of the shadow of Paul

609
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: versus Mayweather where it was like, you know, it was

610
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: interesting that Logan could last that long, but you know,

611
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: getting stole on for however many rounds it was and

612
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: not being able to launch any kind of effective offense.

613
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: It's a moral victory, but it's not much more. Are

614
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: we going to get more than that? In that sense,

615
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: there was a bit of something better here, but I

616
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: don't know that there was enough. I don't know that

617
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: there was enough for Tommy Fury. We're gonna see. It's

618
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting to see what happens with this

619
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: next matchmaking. Do we have any update from the presser?

620
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: By the way, have they started it yet? Let me know,

621
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: to the to the crew here, let me know if

622
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: we see any quotes from Jake Paul about next opponent

623
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Jake's not up yet. Okay, So

624
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: to the extent that we get anything, any statement of

625
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like Tyrone's going to retire. But let's just

626
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: say we hear anything like that or whatever. We'll give

627
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: you guys a bit of an update right here on

628
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: the on the broadcast. And again we're still waiting on Brian.

629
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: Do we know how far away he is? He's doing

630
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: the hit right now, all right, that means he should

631
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: be He should be here in just a second. Yeah.

632
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: By the way, again, I'll give credit to the Cleveland fans.

633
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: When I was there, that was Those were not traditional

634
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: fight fans you see at shows. They were younger, it

635
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: was mostly male, for sure, that it's usually the case,

636
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: but it was just you could tell it was a

637
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: demo that was a little bit, I don't know, a

638
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: little bit more hip hop. I how would you describe

639
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: that audience, gaff tonight, huh yeah, fourteen to twenty five.

640
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: You could tell they game a little bit online, right,

641
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Speaker 1: they've you know, some of them. Let's just be real,

642
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's a good thing that the gathering of

643
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: the Juggalos was last week so they could be here

644
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Speaker 1: for this one. Let's just be on. Let's just be honest.

645
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Speaker 1: Probably some insane clown posse fans shouts to ICP. They

646
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: seem like very nice people. But it was a little

647
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Speaker 1: bit that all right, here's BC coming on in, dude,

648
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to get to the rest of the

649
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Speaker 1: car without you. I kind of talked about the main

650
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Speaker 1: in the Comaine. Here he is Brian Campbell more, host

651
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Speaker 1: of Morning Campbell. Lease, that's what it's been the last

652
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Speaker 1: two weeks. I can't kick my ass right, all right,

653
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Speaker 1: good sir. As a reminder, if you're watching us, now,

654
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Speaker 2: All right, BC, Yeah, let me get this this hnswer

656
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Speaker 2: sound guy here to hook me up.

657
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Speaker 1: There we go. As we do this, I'll give you

658
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Speaker 1: the floor. Your reaction to the main event. It was

659
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: a fun event all week. I don't want to say

660
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: it was not a fun event. The fight had.

661
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 2: Drama, had a lot of skill than I think we

662
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: expected coming in.

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Speaker 1: It was better than Mayweather versus.

664
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Speaker 2: I was entertained. It was better than Mayweather versus Paul.

665
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: I think the key questions all surrounded Logan Paul, and

666
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: I think you know what to a large degree. He

667
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: passed the test. We expected a more exciting passing of

668
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: the test. I expected, Luke, a brawl, maybe get a

669
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: little sloppy, the little extra sloppy, right, yep. I thought

670
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: both guys, for their lack of overall combined boxing ability,

671
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: showed a good amount of it. Responsible defense, decent stamina.

672
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: There wasn't some out of pocket falling apart moments here, Luke,

673
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: as I'm talking to you and you're looking deep into

674
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Speaker 2: that screen.

675
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm listening.

676
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: I'm please, but look, would you agree with me on this?

677
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: Jake passed the test and proved that he's getting there.

678
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: He's not a legitimate boxer. He's not ready to fight

679
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: for world titles. It's only a four profight for guys

680
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: who are even remotely close. He is a celebrity fighter,

681
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: That's what he is. He's a pretty darn good celebrity

682
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: fighter A and he's only twenty four years old, and

683
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: that certainly helps him with the size advantage in these

684
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: type of matchups.

685
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: But Tyron Woodley let him off the hook.

686
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if that's because Woodley knew he

687
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: wouldn't have them doing that for a while, Whether it's

688
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: a failure to launch, or just a lack of understanding

689
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: on how boxing rounds are judged, which which could could

690
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: fall into play. When he does not establish a jab

691
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: he does not have a chance to win rounds in

692
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Speaker 2: which he's not defiantly hurting Jake Paul. Now, I don't

693
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: know where or what grounds that third judge who had

694
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: it in favor of Woodley by that wide.

695
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Speaker 1: I don't know how he got there, because what I

696
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: saw was tell you how he got there. You know

697
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: how I looked at the scorecard. He gave Tyron every

698
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: round from round four through eight. Yeah, so here's the deal,

699
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: Tyrone run round four.

700
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Speaker 2: I gave him round twelve for trying hard in the

701
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 2: last minute with right hands, and you can even argue

702
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: that could have been a Paul round. But I think

703
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: I was pretty much in line with Steve Hart farheard

704
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: the rest of the way where Woodle he's not jabbing,

705
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: he's attempting one punch at a time, And as you

706
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: saw the second half of that fight, especially Luke would

707
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: Lee telegraphed any attempts at power punches. It was very

708
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: much a square up, right handed, almost like MMA Superman

709
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: style punch, where he's getting almost a running or jumping

710
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: start into a lot of these they were telegraphed. Jake

711
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: Paul's ring IQ is a lot better than I think

712
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: people realize, but particularly that round four into round five

713
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: when Jake maybe still could have been hurt. I don't

714
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: know how would he expected to have a chance on

715
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: the scorecards without that type of uh understanding the scenario

716
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: and empty in the bucket, empty in the tank. Even

717
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 2: in the eighth and final round, I didn't see body

718
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: language it said I need a knockout to win this fight.

719
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: I saw some guy who was just sort of okay

720
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: with like, you know what, I went. I won eight

721
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: rounds against this young kid, and I didn't get knocked out.

722
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Speaker 2: I thought it was posturing for him to ask for

723
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Speaker 2: a rematch and try to push for that and try

724
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: to play the business pro wrestling side of it. I

725
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: think it was even worse when he accepted the dude

726
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: would legitimate tattoo beta.

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Speaker 1: Why would why would? Why would? Excuse me, why would

728
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: Jake Paul offer that? First of all, in any compatity,

729
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: Japaul was trolling him and laughing at him, okay, but

730
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: also just as a general like rule, it's like dude,

731
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: you already won this. But he has to do this

732
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Speaker 1: irrespective of anything else. I mean, whether he doesn't.

733
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Speaker 2: Look, unless this fight had been awesome in which there

734
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: was action, they both got knocked down and got up,

735
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: we don't need to see it again, even though they

736
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: promoted it very well. But a big part of that

737
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: promotion is I got to pay to see because I

738
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: don't know what it's going to look like. Now we

739
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: kind of know what we're what we're dealing with here,

740
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: and look, I want to give Woodley the credit for surviving,

741
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: Like he the skills he showed to survive. I didn't

742
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: necessarily know that he had, so I'm going to give

743
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: him that credit. But he's gonna put his head on

744
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: the pillow Luke and be upset that he let Jake

745
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: Paul off the hook.

746
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: Dude, he's been doing this in MMA for a while.

747
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call this. I would not say that this

748
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: is tantamount to the same kind of listlessness that we

749
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: saw against usman No or against Kolby, which, by the way,

750
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: we're just completely different because there's a lot of wrestling involved.

751
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: I get I'm not I'm not comparing that, but the

752
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: idea that he would give away rounds due to low volume. Dude,

753
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: that's not new, that's not new.

754
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: But but like, I didn't even see an avenue for

755
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: him him to get after round four. I didn't even

756
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: really see him come that close with any big shots.

757
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: I didn't really see an avenue where, you know, even

758
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: if he hit a grazing shot, he wasn't following it

759
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: up with more shots.

760
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: You know.

761
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: I think that had he done that, maybe that's where

762
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: the gap in actual boxing skill with Jake Paul having

763
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: focused on this for longer would have come out, and

764
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: maybe Tyron would have gotten caught. And maybe, you know,

765
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: because again neither guy really Now think I really overextended

766
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: in goofy fashions to leave themselves out there to get

767
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: knocked out, and I give them that respect. I think

768
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: that's a big part overall of what the Paul brothers

769
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 2: have done to show this game respect. Sometimes it doesn't

770
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: equal huge excitement, and this fight had some slow moments.

771
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: Floyd Floyd Logan was slow a shit throughout. Yeah, but

772
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 2: like the like, which would you rather have? Would you

773
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: rather have this genre that the Paul Brothers are the

774
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 2: front of be just you get knockouts?

775
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: What is sloppy? Bro?

776
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: I kind of liked the respect shown where I was

777
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: able to enjoy a dramatic fight that didn't have a

778
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: ton of action because it was like, you know, who's

779
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: gonna make that change that can win this?

780
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: Moderately enjoyed it. I think that's fine. I certainly did

781
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: not hate it at all. I moderately enjoyed it. But

782
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: this is sort of thing for me. It's like, dude,

783
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm happy to grade the ability on a curve. I

784
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: understand what I'm looking at. It's not championship boxing. I

785
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: am well aware of it. I mean, guys, the guy

786
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: can barely that barely, but the guy can beat basically

787
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: almost retired MMA fighters. That's not a high level of boxing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,

788
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna say. I've not seen one of

789
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: these YouTube fights yet where I've walked away, including the

790
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: KSI one which was on his own, I've not seen one.

791
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, that action was sick. Like every

792
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: time we're like that was okay, Like, when is it

793
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: going to be the time where one of these guys

794
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: unless it's you know, I guess they have to be

795
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: completely overmatched. But this is The problem with having someone

796
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: who doesn't have a ton of ability. They don't have

797
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: the promise to be able to deliver stinging knockouts or

798
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: of you know, vicious beatdowns unless their opponent is a

799
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: pre diabetic cast station attendant. Like, that's a bit of

800
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: a time. I didn't know that was him.

801
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: Did you think the fourth round right hand that her

802
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: Do I think the ropes held him up? Yes, yes,

803
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: and it should have been ruled.

804
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: The knocked down, Yes, I I do, I do. I

805
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the most egregious refing era, but

806
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: the but the way in which at least the replay

807
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: looked to me he was held up by the right

808
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: It was one of the ones where he was dazed,

809
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: but it would have been off of his feet with

810
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: the shot, you know what I mean.

811
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: And too that third judge, who who who screwed up?

812
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: That's a shit score. That's a terrible and that's not

813
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: phoned in, like no one, no one paid him to

814
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: do that. As you can, like, that doesn't fit any narrative, right,

815
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: that's just a bad scorecard.

816
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: I wonder though, because there was two rounds.

817
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: I thought after round four where Woodley actually was the aggressor.

818
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: I don't think he threw more punches, but he actually

819
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: was making Jake back up. I thought Jake was getting

820
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: a little tired where I'm like, man, Tyron, you are

821
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: so close to being able to win this round. Yet

822
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: Jake would come back with shots to the body, would

823
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: come back with one punch here and there, and I'm

824
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: just like, you know, I know how to score a

825
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: boxing round. Despite how many of you may agree with that,

826
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: you know the activity has to go to Jake.

827
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: It has to.

828
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: But you know, I guess if you're a judge who

829
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: who's in a state that doesn't have big time fights,

830
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: and you gave that fight to Tyren Woodley.

831
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: But I guess the last thing I'll say this because

832
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: I want to get some of the other pieces about

833
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: Jake's future, But the last thing I'll say about this

834
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: is I don't think it would be your last thing.

835
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: I think you're a fucking liar. No, no, no. What I

836
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: mean to say is, what is the appeal if you're

837
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: not already a Jake Paul fan? Right, Like, why should seriously,

838
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: after everything that happened, if you're not a Jake Paul fan,

839
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: why would you care about this fight? What would be

840
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: how would you sell? Not a rematch per se? But

841
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: like why folks should tune into Jake Paul again? Because

842
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: the lesson I'm taking from this is he is definitely

843
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: better than his critics want to admit. There's certainly certainly

844
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: no denying that after eight rounds you have to say

845
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: at least that. But dude, his it seems to me

846
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: his I don't know what ceiling is, but his current

847
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: level of ability is I can beat guys who lost

848
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: their last four in the UFC and got their walking papers,

849
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: Like that's not having a size advantage of size of it,

850
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: and I couldn't finish them off. Yeah, so this is

851
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: your high level bro.

852
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: Well, look after Logan and Floyd, I thought that was

853
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: a step back for the job. It didn't work, and

854
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: I thought it had a chance to put a flat

855
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: tire on what they were trying to build. Here, you

856
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: think this fight tonight because there wasn't a knockout because

857
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: Woodley didn't, you know, almost comically didn't do enough that

858
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: it's it also has that same potential to kind.

859
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: Of slow the interest down slowly. I have a hunch,

860
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: and I can't really prove this, but I have a

861
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: hunch that. Listen, if you watch you go to a

862
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: boxing show like whatever, your next real boxing show is

863
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: full on real boxing show, and watch the undercards. You'll

864
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: see people with these kinds of records zero to one

865
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: versus three and oo. It's quite common actually, And sometimes

866
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: the fight suck and sometimes they don't, but there's no

867
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: one there. No one is expected to be there except

868
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: like their corners and maybe like Minnesota teammates. It's kind

869
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: of a learning thing. That side of boxing is almost

870
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: never sold as the entertainment side. Yes, they wait until

871
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: they get much better. Well, now we're trying to fast forward.

872
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can actually do that. Like

873
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: we keep for the genre to produce a really great fight,

874
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: it is possible to get that at this level, but

875
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: all the concessions we're making to put this in a

876
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: place where it ordinarily would not go has yet to

877
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: produce it.

878
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is like when when secondary football

879
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: startup leagues happened, the XFL, the whatever the other recent

880
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: ones where you know, be honest, if you don't know

881
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: the players, you are tuning in and hoping to see

882
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: like crazy action scoring, right, just batchit craziness. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,

883
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: or that's it or fights. You're right, be like, you're

884
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: not going to come out of there and go. You

885
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: know what for minor league football players, man, they can

886
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: block really good. So you're saying getting lost in the

887
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: fact that Woodley and Paul may have over exceeded what

888
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: we thought their technical real boxing skills, were just showing

889
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: that ain't gonna keep selling this bubble unless we get

890
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: some sloppy knockouts, unless we get some definitive I'm getting

891
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 2: better each fight.

892
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: On the face of this, I'm Jake Paul and I'm

893
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna knock you out. I think so on some level, dude,

894
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: if you're asking people to accept what you're doing as

895
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: an entertainment product, it needs to be sufficiently entertaining. Like

896
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: with the real part of boxing, you make a concession

897
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: knowing that they have a high level and it can

898
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: be sometimes difficult. Blah blah blah. You don't get any

899
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: of those guard rails when what you're asking for is

900
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: to be pushed to the front of the line. And again,

901
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: I understand not every if I can be, not everyone

902
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: can be. I'm just wondering, are we in a position

903
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: where this genre can't really consistently deliver it in a

904
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: way that the the you know, the real side of boxing.

905
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: I think you have to increase the threat of danger then,

906
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: at least at least that's what if Jake Paul is

907
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: going to manage it, He's going to manage in such

908
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: a way where the danger is all.

909
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: You're saying, Hey, Jake Paul, you can't be a point fighter.

910
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: Can't be a pay per view star and a point fighter.

911
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: But I don't have That's weird.

912
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: It's weird because I respect the effort he put into,

913
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: He put in a real effort. Was do you think

914
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: he didn't go for a finish at any point? Which

915
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he went for a finish. No, I

916
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: don't think either of Tyrone was kind of looking for

917
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: some home run shots, but not in a very strategic,

918
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: full throated way. They don't have the ability to really

919
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: do that.

920
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Jake Paul didn't get a knockout, which has to

921
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: take away from what you thought his high end exhibit

922
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: expectations could be. But did did he do more to

923
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: impress forget about like the marketing moving forward, just in

924
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: his performance? Did he do more to impress you, or

925
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: more to show you how illegitimate he might both both.

926
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: We didn't know hardly anything before this, right, we had

927
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: the the uh, the three fights. There's not a whole

928
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: lot there. Yeah, those are I mean, I don't know

929
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: what to say about them. There's not much. This was

930
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: the first time you got some real footage on the guy,

931
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: and there are some things he do. He clearly has

932
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: better abilities than the MMA fighters that they're lining up

933
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: in front of him like he does, and I think

934
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: that's not insignificant there.

935
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: That's that's admirable. That's ruth and size. You can't overlok

936
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: fair enough.

937
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: Fair enough, But it's also quite clear at twenty four

938
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: years old, this is never going to be a whole

939
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: lot more than what it is.

940
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: Okay, then does Tommy Fiury interest you? But considering he's

941
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: the same size as Jake you.

942
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: Were talking about that earlier.

943
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, let's be honest that that's not

944
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: a good performance from Tommy Fury and he had.

945
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: A three way cloud was pointing a ship.

946
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to put that guy in the

947
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: canvas to to But is there any way that gets

948
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: him a better chance out of potential Jake Paul fight

949
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: because I was wondering based on some comments from Jake. Look,

950
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: Jake putting Tom's card shows you that they're potentially interested.

951
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: Yes, but then I saw Jake, Oh yeah, I'm losing

952
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: a bit there too.

953
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: All right, well, you know, gotta it's got to make

954
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: sense money wise, it's got to make sense height and size.

955
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: Whyse Look, he throw those extra words and we talk

956
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: to which leads you to believe if Tommy Ferry goes

957
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 2: out there and cleans his kid's clock, maybe he won't

958
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: get the call. Does this blow performance from Tommy Ferry

959
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: which really has you questioning how deep his own boxing

960
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: career could go at just six fights seven fights in.

961
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's the perfect mark. Then I never had

962
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: a ton of interest in him, necessarily not because I

963
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: for no other reason than I'm not in the UK,

964
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: and a lot of his popularity is driven as a

965
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: function of that, Like he's got a I mean, obviously

966
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: the Fury name is international in boxing, but it's gonna

967
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: have a little bit more cachet at home. And you know,

968
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: Love Island is not a show that I would watch,

969
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: whether UK or otherwise. I bet your your wife watches it.

970
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: When you go to the sleeve.

971
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: Oh she one watches, but I bet you so like

972
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: like the Peruvian version because it's the original Thomas House.

973
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: She watched the Brazilian version of Too Hot to Ha.

974
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: There you go because there.

975
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: Because let us Americans enjoy anything. If there's a a

976
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: if there's a foreign original out there.

977
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: That why don't you enjoy that pube that's sitting on

978
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: your microphone right there? How about an original here? You know,

979
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: let me let me heard it both ways, let me

980
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: do Let's run through the rest of the cart here

981
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: for just a second. Tommy Fury did not really impressed me.

982
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't think most people thought he was very impressive.

983
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: But your bloge may very Daniel Dubois, I mean, could

984
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: have had gone any better. It was perfect.

985
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: It was the right opponent to do that too, although

986
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: amount of I mean this is the difference.

987
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: Between Tommy Fury and Daniel Dubais. I mean, there's many

988
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: different So this.

989
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: Was a showcase fight for Dubai. Let's not forget. Let's

990
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: not plan like it was.

991
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: A showcase five for Tommy Fury too.

992
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: So true and he and he failed to deliver and

993
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: raise that needle. What did he took care of business

994
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 2: violently like you should. And that's about three knockdowns against

995
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: Chris Moller was hungry gise that.

996
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: I never been stopped before.

997
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: No, but you know, his three losses had come against

998
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: some fairly journeyman journeyman's heavyweights.

999
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: So this is kind of what was supposed to happen.

1000
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: In credit to do boy, he did it, and you know,

1001
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: I get a little upset of the narrative of like,

1002
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: you know, get ready, folks, he's the next big thing.

1003
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: I mean, we like better saw him step up to

1004
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: a next big thing fight like he's been around. Now

1005
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: it's the time to completely rebuild from that Joyce loss.

1006
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: And he stopped Boggdandinu and now we quickly stopped this guy.

1007
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: This was more about put him out there then let

1008
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: him learn a lot. But all in all, he passed

1009
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: the test for being just twenty three. He's gonna be

1010
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: in some big fights down the road, you know. Okay,

1011
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: he lost out Joe Joyce's fight, but he didn't get

1012
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: knocked out. He quick because of the injury. And give

1013
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: Joyce credit, he landed the bigger punches. He caused the injury.

1014
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: But Dubos is gonna have his time, so that that's

1015
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: a bright spot on this card for sure.

1016
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: Also, I thought the best fight on the card bar

1017
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 1: noun Ivan Baranchick in Montana Love Dude, what a win

1018
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: for Montana Love Baranchick. Jesus Christ. You see, this guy

1019
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: is a fairal animal.

1020
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: You make that Jesus comparison because Jesus didn't happen he was.

1021
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: Is that what you're going that? You know why you

1022
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: bring that to all of our conversations all the time.

1023
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: You don't want me to say the evil joke.

1024
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: Okay, but if I have to hear you say Christ

1025
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: on crutches or something just ridiculously blasphemic again on this

1026
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: show that has my name, Yeah, where's your.

1027
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: Name, Morning Campbell? I don't see that I can say

1028
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: what my friend says, like when he calls people like

1029
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: he al says something they're as Christ fastest, Christ fastest,

1030
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: whatever is your deity?

1031
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: I mean it even could be, uh, you know, Latin

1032
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 2: women if what if I just damn them every time?

1033
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: Something? That can? We ask you about Ivan Branchick and look,

1034
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: that was great theater.

1035
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: I mean it was a balls to the wall one

1036
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: hundred and forty pound bow and it's like Branchick, you know,

1037
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: gave us the twenty twenty fight of the Year and

1038
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: he got knocked out cold, giving us the best fight

1039
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: in showbox history a few years back against Abel Ramos,

1040
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: like he's known for this. I think the problem is, unfortunately,

1041
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: he might have to retire. He's taken, that's all. That's

1042
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: a harsh statement to make a guy in his early

1043
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: thirties who just was champion a few years ago.

1044
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: I was not expected to lose tonight. So first of all,

1045
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: it's an upset. Second of all, dude, he got stopped.

1046
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean that he got stop to get does it

1047
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: have big power? Again, somebody's not a big that's the

1048
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: key who's not a big puncher. And he got rather

1049
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: And the thing is Branchick has always fought with balls.

1050
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean he fights with BD you know, it looks

1051
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: like a Bond villain as well.

1052
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: The other day and he just keeps coming. But no,

1053
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: he regular shots rock him. That was tough to see.

1054
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: But if you're Montana Love, you know you had to

1055
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: walk through some crap to get that. And he's a

1056
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: South Paul, He's tough, He's he was feeling it in

1057
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: front of the home crowd that was fun to see is.

1058
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: Love because of this win obviously the biggest one of

1059
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: Love's career for sure. Any sense about what kind of

1060
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: fight might be on the horizon for him when you

1061
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: beat a big name like well, he said he wants

1062
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: the belt next.

1063
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 2: Now, obviously in boxing there's more belts per wake class,

1064
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: so there's more opportunities. But I think he's not going

1065
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: to be far from a title shot. I mean, he's

1066
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: still relatively young, but he took out that two and

1067
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: a half year block of his career when he was

1068
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: in prison. But this is a win that, like, you

1069
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: really can't go backwards from that, you know, this is

1070
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: a win over a former champion who brings so much

1071
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: toughness that you're pretty much going to start getting in

1072
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: line for your opportunities.

1073
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: And also credits a Branchick and also Love. Branchick kind

1074
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: of hurt a few times and Love rallied in certain

1075
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: spots and showed toughness and hard That was ultimately and

1076
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: ultimately here's really why he won. He had better boxing skill,

1077
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: he was the more technical of the two. I think

1078
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: a lot of the reality Baranchick is he kind of

1079
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: just got by on some boxing ability, but then just

1080
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: outrageous aggression and pressure.

1081
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: And that's why he got stopped against Jose Cepida in

1082
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: his last fight and is not a big puncher, but

1083
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: a slick boxer, but had to brawl with him, but

1084
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: just had the tighter technique. And you know, you remember

1085
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: that knockout when Branchiic got knocked out by Paid the

1086
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: last October for the fight of the year.

1087
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: I mean that was like lights were out, like that

1088
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: was the end of that was and did a whole

1089
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: podcast just on that fight. Yeah, it was. It was

1090
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: that good but fun fun outing there there we look

1091
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: at that pu fucking gross piece.

1092
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: Well the yeah, so you dirt back all right, event

1093
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 2: a long week, We're almost done comine event I made

1094
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: a Serrano dude.

1095
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: Those two minute rounds they suck at they. I mean

1096
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: every time we say this because every time Serrano was

1097
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: building momentum in the end to the round. Mercado, by

1098
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 1: the way, toughest shit. I'll give her credit, her whole

1099
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: less out of her face was completely fucking jacked Serrano

1100
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: at You heard Albernstein say, we had previewed it also

1101
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: on the show. A phenomenal body puncher just maybe one

1102
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: of the best in all of women's boxing, all of boxing.

1103
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: Clear yeah, clear win for her, But was it the

1104
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: showcase for her?

1105
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: Well, she had a tough opponent, so I think, of course,

1106
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: you want to say I'm gonna steal the show and

1107
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come out there and I'm gonna get a

1108
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 2: better knockout than you. But if your opponent is biting

1109
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: down and going for it, and look, Mercando actually had moments.

1110
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: You know, I thought her counter right hand was good,

1111
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: even though the moment she got out worked, and anytime

1112
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: she tried to make it a fight. I mean, Surranao's punches,

1113
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: pet up, you saw the cut, you saw the red face,

1114
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: all that going on. But uh, I don't think so

1115
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: Serrano won the night. But I think given the platform

1116
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: that she had, she came out and showed you that

1117
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: at thirty two. I mean, she's like we said that

1118
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: if you're at worst the third best pop for pun

1119
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: in the world and title wise, you're actually the most

1120
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: decorated fighter in women's boxing history. I mean, I was

1121
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: just happy that her manager and uh and brother in

1122
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: law didn't start a fight.

1123
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: After he seems he seems very level headed. He seemed

1124
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: close to this time, not caffeinated at all. Yeah, but

1125
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: did you hear what he was saying to the other corner,

1126
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: like about like you're not Mexicano. No, well that's too much,

1127
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: but also like show like how to translate, like show

1128
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: some balls. Yeah I've said that to you a few

1129
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: times after the show. You haven't. Yeah, you've never said that.

1130
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: They like stopped trying to softy, you know, just just

1131
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: say it once.

1132
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: You take some more l from Josh Thompson. Guy, how

1133
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: about that? Did I take the al or did I?

1134
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: Did I rally? That was? That was you got off

1135
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: the canvas?

1136
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 2: But it was Andy Silva round five son and stuff.

1137
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, okay, you took me down. I didn't

1138
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: tell you about the rib injury, but uh I'll finish.

1139
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: Okay. We have some questions here from the listeners I

1140
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: put up off Twitter thread. Did you and I didn't

1141
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: really get to see the broadcast? Was Ariel on there

1142
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 1: at all? I thought Earl was going to fight tonight.

1143
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: He was on so many parts of the broadcast. I

1144
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: even asked. I called my showtime producer, I'm like, who's

1145
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: Aerol fighting the night? Because he was everywhere on that

1146
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: on that broadcast, Hey, were we on the Oh no,

1147
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: weh're in the basement of it.

1148
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: I was dying rockhouse and I opened the broadcast. They

1149
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: should We're in the basement of a dying hotel. That's okay,

1150
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: all right? Uh, this comes to us from Oliver.

1151
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: Which of these, if any, would be most interesting next

1152
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: Woodley rematch? I say no, No, Tommy Fury, yes, Nate

1153
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: or Nick Diaz? Fuck yes, but it's not possible. But yes,

1154
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: Mas Welliver, Gregor, yes, granted those in the contract with

1155
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: the UC probably can happen. Maybe besides Nick, Well, you

1156
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: know I talked to Jake this week. You were there.

1157
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: I think you were there.

1158
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, about like, you know, how do you force Dana's

1159
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: hand to want to get involved? If he had knocked

1160
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: out Tyron Woodley and like the third round of a

1161
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: competitive fight, Yeah, that would have been a monster step

1162
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 2: closer to Dana. Like, you know, how many more times

1163
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: do I want my UFC guys walking out there? And

1164
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: you know, so, why don't I work with him and

1165
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: put up somebody that'll beat him?

1166
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking about this now. The problem with what

1167
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: he did with Woodley is it was enough of a

1168
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 1: step up that you have to be like, Okay, man,

1169
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: you know this kid's got some ability. I'll give it

1170
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: to him, but it's not enough of a step up,

1171
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: especially in the sort of relatively reserved way that Tyran

1172
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: fought to make you think, like, wow, he's must say.

1173
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: You're not pulling it. My point of saying that is

1174
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: you're not pulling in the UFC opponents any time soon.

1175
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: That's right, because you're gonna need the business to force

1176
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: that hand. So what is it?

1177
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: They'll be honest, we had a bunch of these, We

1178
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: have like ninety of these. No, but like what opponent

1179
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: do you think makes the most sense? Were you scared

1180
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: of all that?

1181
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: Not scared?

1182
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: But that Jake afterwards was like, man, I need to

1183
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: take some time off, Like I'm twenty four.

1184
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: I got to figure out what the future of my

1185
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: life is. Like did you make Did that make you

1186
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: feel like.

1187
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: He's going to be looking for an opponent soon or no?

1188
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: But I think I'll fight either end of this year

1189
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: or first quarter of twenty twenty two for sure because

1190
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: the money's there. Because if he's listen, you could say

1191
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: whatever you want about the fight. This is one of

1192
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: the best promoted fights i've seen in a while, was

1193
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: very very well. Everyone did their part. Okay, then who's

1194
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: the opponent that will make people care? That's the reality,

1195
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: the one. The one thing you can say for Tyrone

1196
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: is you can say a few things, but the one

1197
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: you can you cannot take away from is he did

1198
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: a very good job as the B side and promoting

1199
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: this fight. He was a dude. These guys were good

1200
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: rivals for each other. I will absolutely say that from

1201
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: w Camal Bell, the comedian and television host. If you

1202
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: were close to Tyrone, how would you advise him to

1203
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: continue his fighting career, more boxing, signed with every made

1204
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: promotion or just be done?

1205
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 2: What's the last stop on that lonely highway called the BKFC.

1206
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: There's a storyline with Hector Lombard, right, you know what

1207
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 2: I mean?

1208
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: Right? Maybe do it? Maybe do it right? Yeah, there's

1209
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: probably some big, big money for that. I mean, look,

1210
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: they asked me that on CBS Sports HQ, Like, okay, well,

1211
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: what's going to be next for Tyrone? You know, Baron

1212
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: Knuckle with Hector Lombard? Maybe, but what else could that?

1213
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: When we'd like, okay, he he performed well this week.

1214
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: He fought well to not get knocked out, but he

1215
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: kind of cost himself to fight. You're not you're not

1216
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 2: win being a fight because of that performance.

1217
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: I think a lot of fans feel this way. From

1218
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: sean quote, I personally believe that Tyron looked relatively impressive

1219
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: considering against his pro debut. He could have easily turned

1220
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: up the pressure and volume and put Paul away. Paul

1221
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 1: simply won the fight because of Woodley's inactivity, and Paul

1222
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: had a subpar performance overall. Here's the problem I have

1223
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: with this. I generally understand what the person's saying, but

1224
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: Woodley didn't turn it up. Yes, he could have if

1225
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: he was a different person, but he's got a lot

1226
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: of competitive miles on him. I think he's got some

1227
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: mental scars on him as well, which is, by the way,

1228
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: if you're forty and you've been fighting for fucking forever,

1229
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some of those. You're asking him to

1230
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: be something he's not at this point. Yes, could a

1231
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 1: different boxer under different circumstances do different things given the openings,

1232
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: for sure, but Tyrone's not that guy, at least not

1233
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: right now or anymore so. Tyron whatever, but.

1234
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 3: That doesn't necessarily mean that because Tyrone kind of left

1235
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 3: the possibility to win this that Jake was Because what

1236
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 3: I mean by that is Tyron still left threat of

1237
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 3: the punches and there was a level of drama.

1238
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 1: And where he competed at the very least.

1239
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: So I think, yes, that because of that, you gotta

1240
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: you gotta, you gotta give Jake a nod on this

1241
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: was a good night.

1242
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: Out overall, is a good night for Jake overall? So

1243
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,479
Speaker 1: when asked, should Jake quit boxing while he's on top

1244
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: and move on to his next money making venture or

1245
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: is it worth it to see this thing through making

1246
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: his money in combat sports? Do you feel like.

1247
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: He felt like what it could be to be memed

1248
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: Now he's willing to sign up for these fights of

1249
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: course be knocked out. But in the spirit of that question, look,

1250
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: even if you Jake's too smart not to know the truth,

1251
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: the truth is that if he keeps climbing the ladder

1252
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: and keeps challenging himself, he'll find that challenge. Yes, that's

1253
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: the truth. So to the spirit of that question, what

1254
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: is he actually fighting for? I don't think he's fighting

1255
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: to find that right, No, So like he's not necessarily

1256
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: daring to be great in the purest boxing sense for

1257
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: a celebrity. He's pretty he's kind of daring to be

1258
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: great for a celebrity, right who you wouldn't expect to

1259
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: do that? Okay, So because of that and that foundation,

1260
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: I don't think he gets out now. But I think

1261
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: he's only looking at fights where that's scare isn't isn't there?

1262
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 2: But you got to be smart in how you sell

1263
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: that though, because you have to sell the danger in

1264
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: the threat.

1265
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: But again, if the danger is so narrow that he's

1266
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna have yet another religious it's not going to do.

1267
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: You got to start putting some people on the canvas

1268
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: man like that. That's just the reality of it.

1269
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: So you need someone then, sorry, so you need somebody

1270
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: with more danger but also more vulnerability. Woodley wasn't vulnerable

1271
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: Branch type. Wait, Woodley wasn't vulnerable enough in the end.

1272
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: If I named.

1273
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: Branchi's high level.

1274
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, if I what if

1275
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: I named you a couple of names, I want you

1276
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: to just say, like the outcome, Okay, Jake Paul versus Silver,

1277
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: what's the outcome? I don't, I mean, what's the what

1278
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: was the outcome, just so I know where Jacob Anderson

1279
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: boxes him the fuck out, box him out, or box

1280
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: everyone stops him at a bare minim.

1281
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Jake, Jorge Masvidal, Jorge fucks him up. I'm horhicn

1282
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: box Jake, Oscar de la Hoya. Jesus fuck are we

1283
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: doing this? Really? I'm just I'm looking at the players

1284
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: out in the landscape. Okay, I'm just I'm just asking it.

1285
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: Is Jake going to fight Vitor? I'm just asking you.

1286
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a level. I'm trying to get

1287
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: a level on where he actually is.

1288
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's low Oscar Oscar knock him out at

1289
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: forty seven?

1290
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: Oscar knocks him out. Yeah, okay, Mike Tyson knocks him enough.

1291
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: What the fucking question is that? Okay, I'm trying to

1292
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: get a gauge here, all right, all right? Uh? How

1293
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: do you pay about how Mike Perry bro that's a

1294
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: little even Mike Perry might knuckle him to the campus.

1295
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, he probably beats Mike Perry. How

1296
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: do you feel about Woodley reacting the way he did postfight,

1297
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: even after the Paul bro showed him love and respect.

1298
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of a bad look and

1299
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: that he should have taken his l en pay day gracefully.

1300
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: It was desperate. It was a desperate acts, man. I

1301
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: think who had instant regret that? I mean, look, I

1302
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: don't think he could. I mean, you can't tell me

1303
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: he went to those scorecards thinking that he did done enough,

1304
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: maybe hoping, maybe he thought he had done more in

1305
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: some of those middle I don't know.

1306
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that, Luke. I can't imagine that.

1307
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: So everything, all that behavior we saw was a desperate

1308
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: attempt to try to secure another fight, and it's not

1309
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: gonna happen.

1310
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: I never understand these comments. This person writes, any semi

1311
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: decent boxer would have finished Jake multiple times. He let

1312
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: himself be walked down way too easily, and he really

1313
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: isn't elusive enough yet to fight the majority of the fights.

1314
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, dude, who thinks he's gonna beat a halfway

1315
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: good boxer? I certainly don't. He's the best celebrity, that's

1316
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: all I know. For celebrities. He could box his fucking ass.

1317
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: He's a good boxer for celebrity by boxing standards, he cannot.

1318
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: No, So that's not what we're saying, and anyone that

1319
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 2: that's hearing the way that we're talking about the matchmaking

1320
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: future and going you freaking hypocrite. If Floyd was trying

1321
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: to find the you know, low danger, high reward guy,

1322
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: you'd be calling him out for what Floyd's also, like

1323
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: Floyd was, I'm not talking about Floyd now.

1324
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: Floyd was in real boxing. It was the best of

1325
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: our era by far.

1326
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a celebrity guy who might want to

1327
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: keep the train on the tracks with circus fights, right right,

1328
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: of course, there's a there's a little bit of show

1329
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: and tell with the mirrors to try to try.

1330
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: I think if Jake Paul is going to do this,

1331
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: he's got to find somebody who can be a decent

1332
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: B side, because Tyrone was an excellent B side promotionally. Yeah,

1333
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna find someone who could be a decent B

1334
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: side who he can knock the fight.

1335
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: So we need well that person is offer more threat

1336
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: of a knockout than even Tyrone, but be way more

1337
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: chenier than Tyran.

1338
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: Dude, sell a pay per view that's not a million,

1339
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: but it's six seven hundred thousand, you're still gonna make.

1340
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: A fuck ton of using that one as a commercial

1341
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: for the next one. That's exactly who That's what I'm

1342
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 2: talking about. Okay, so who's that guy? Because Tommy Furrery

1343
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: did not look freaking good. Dude, But that looks like

1344
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: another hold on, we can keep going through this. That

1345
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: doesn't fury Tommy fiery versus Jake Paul on your head.

1346
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: That might go a decision. That might be another one

1347
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: of these, right.

1348
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: I'll say this. It's a lot more competitive tonight than

1349
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was before. It's shit more competitive. They

1350
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: might do that for that reason, dude. Like, honestly, it's competitive.

1351
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: It's a huge, huge fight. It's celebrity wise in the

1352
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: UK like it's ty Here's the fact I don't it's

1353
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: hard for me to believe Tyron did enough to really

1354
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: make a even remotely strong case for a rematch.

1355
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: No, he just never never mention that again. Don't anyone

1356
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: ever mention that again?

1357
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: A lot of questions about what they retiring, A lot

1358
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: of questions, dude, These fights it's just inevitable. You have

1359
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: to deal with it. These fights invite the uh it's

1360
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: all fixed. Yes, experts, you know, the guys who know

1361
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: so much about fighting that they can spot.

1362
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: I would want to just if I'm interested in seeing

1363
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: a d and at length would the interview in which

1364
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 2: someone would ask him like do you regret not?

1365
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: But you would have to do it with like footage

1366
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: here and be like, dude, you went like X amount

1367
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: of seconds, Like.

1368
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: I think it was obviously there was no freaking jab.

1369
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: Look he would like paw twice and that'd be it

1370
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: and then be done.

1371
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: Like that was fixed. Total waste of time and money.

1372
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 1: It wasn't fixed. It was just bad game plan. Here's

1373
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: one thing I'm not sure I picked up on this.

1374
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you're fully picking up on it yet.

1375
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: There is palpable frustration from the MMA fans that I

1376
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: see online about Tyrone's effort. They think that that Jake

1377
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: was served up ready to be taken out, and that

1378
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: Tyron just totally misplayed it. Rather than dude, that's who

1379
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: he is. Now you're asking him to do things he

1380
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: doesn't really have the capacity. It was in the last fight.

1381
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: He went after Luke, he got and he got fucking submitted.

1382
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: He Tyron not throwing a lot of volume and and

1383
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: taking long stretches off of just completely dude, did you

1384
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: not watch both of the lot.

1385
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, then, then are you saying he

1386
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 2: went into the scorecards thinking he won, Then that's what

1387
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: you're saying.

1388
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,479
Speaker 1: He when the when the final bell maybe maybe because

1389
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: he was the guy walking again we know what it's

1390
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: supposed to mean, but he was the guy walking Jake

1391
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: down a lot, throwing anything. So I think maybe he

1392
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: thought that was enough with you know, and I was

1393
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: trying to.

1394
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: Mixed with I didn't get knocked down, and I kind

1395
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: of knocked him down, and yeah, but I don't know.

1396
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 1: Odds on the tattoo footage being released tonight, I don't

1397
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: think what he's get in the tattoo? Yeah? Would do?

1398
01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: Would you get that? Would you get tattooed? I love

1399
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas.

1400
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: I think if it should have been like if you

1401
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: got knocked out, you might have to get the tattoo, right.

1402
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, But although that's adding insult to injury at that point.

1403
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: So when asked me, how much longer does this bullshit

1404
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: go on? For? What? Was this a good night or

1405
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: bad night for you? Two bucks? And good?

1406
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: Not not great, good but good but tokay to.

1407
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: The well, No, the overall card was good, That fight

1408
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: was okay.

1409
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: But that fight was entertaining to a degree, though to

1410
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: a degree to a degree. And look, I think the

1411
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: week was was fun, week was great, so we was

1412
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: very good.

1413
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: But the fight, you know what, the fight had just

1414
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: didn't deliver on and then's why people are frustrated. There

1415
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: were real moments, especially early, of tension. There was real

1416
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: tension in the fight, but the problem is it just

1417
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 1: didn't amount to anything except that big punch from round

1418
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: four for Tyrant. That was the only like, really I

1419
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: think about it. Take that out. What's the other punctuated

1420
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: moment of that fight. There's a couple of times where

1421
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of clashed or a big punch

1422
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: landed or something like that. Jake had more more, Jake

1423
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: had more combination. Yes, let's give it.

1424
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 2: Look, look, Jake can throw combos like really well, going

1425
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: to the body and then coming back up with the

1426
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: check Cook is pretty good too. I mean again, on

1427
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: this level, it's really damn good.

1428
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 1: That's right. I thought his check hook was surprisingly good

1429
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: the whole time. The barstool guy's not not good at betting.

1430
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: It turns out, no, no, not good. They had a

1431
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: bad night. I mean they did.

1432
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: They may have they may have also no sold all

1433
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: of our jokes on Saturday Shows, what.

1434
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna do. That's okay. They wouldn't be the first

1435
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: one of the last.

1436
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: I mean it was almost it was almost like a

1437
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 2: shop like no hitter. It was just like not fielding

1438
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 2: your ship. Tyron Woodley's first name Wait, I'll add you

1439
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: to that list of.

1440
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: Tyrone Woodley's first name was pronounced seventy five thousand different ways.

1441
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: I think it was just Tyrone Tyrone every single time,

1442
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 2: except for I think one time Ariel got already said there.

1443
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: Was like a there was like a there was one

1444
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: Tyrone I heard. I did hear a Tyroney. I think

1445
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: that might have been Jake Paul, but they didn't get

1446
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: his name right. Phoenix CARNIVALI shouts to Phoenix for not

1447
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: letting Jake Paul steal your mic It's the number one rule.

1448
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: You can ask Aerol, you can ask anybody. Number one.

1449
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: Ariel had a battle with who was it James Tony

1450
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 2: the boxer ahead of the Randy Catur trying to take

1451
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: a shit.

1452
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Ariel held this ground, but never let him

1453
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: take your microphone ever.

1454
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to see Phoenix on there, and uh,

1455
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: you know, Jake Paul wore I'm sorry, Logan Paul, he

1456
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: wore a Cavist jersey on the air.

1457
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: Yep. So it's very pro Cleveland of him. Hey, were

1458
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: those guys from Cleveland? They would never let you know.

1459
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: You know, did you think it was interesting that Woodley

1460
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: got split cheers and booze?

1461
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: I did really surprised. I do. I think MMA fans

1462
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: are really bitter at him because A they wanted him

1463
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: to win, and B they think that, like, oh, all

1464
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: he did was just turn it up, and I understand

1465
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: what they mean by that, but that's Jesus, not that

1466
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: guy anymore. I mean, look, bold frustrated.

1467
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: Did you would you say that both were keeping the

1468
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 2: thread of their knockout alive for the other one to

1469
01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: kind of pull back a knot.

1470
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: Saw as time went on. The only I said, just

1471
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show, before you were here,

1472
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: that as time went on, the only real danger was

1473
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: coming from Tyran, because I noticed that Jake was happy

1474
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: to like bop up and then move, you know, So no,

1475
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: I think that was mostly Tyrant. But again, it was

1476
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: just so you know, I'm gonna chase it down or

1477
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: I got the guy against the ropes and I'm not

1478
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: pulling the trigger. That was the thing that bought me, dude.

1479
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: It was consistently he would get Jake's Jake's back against

1480
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: the ropes and not let go. Dude, that was your

1481
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: time to let go.

1482
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: But you know, I mean, had Jake won by knockout,

1483
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: I think you would actually wanted him back in the

1484
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: ring soon because you want to keep that momentum going

1485
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 2: because this was lessons learned. But wasn't you know, it

1486
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: wasn't an overall entertaining blockbuster type of you know exit

1487
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: feel uh you were saying December, you think he would come.

1488
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: Back late late four, fourth quarter this year, first quarter

1489
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: next year.

1490
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm wondering if they if they try to

1491
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: wait for the perfect opponent, you know what I mean,

1492
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: they try to kind of start manufacturing and figuring out

1493
01:07:58,760 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: where that's going to come from.

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01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: See see what a fighter gets it gets gets their

1495
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: contract shredded. Oh you're available now because the promotion. See

1496
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,439
Speaker 1: if Tino or Chiez has some moments against Andy Silva, Dude,

1497
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, are they gonna do Jake Paul versus Tito?

1498
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 2: I doubt it, but I think I think Anderson Silva

1500
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 2: out points him.

1501
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 1: Who Tito Jake. Yeah, Anderson Silva is gonna beat Tito

1502
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: and or Jake. Pretty pretty confident with that in a

1503
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: boxing match. Yeah, yeah, all right, that's it for us, dude.

1504
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: Cleveland was it was hospitable, it was a little dangerous, Yeah, dude.

1505
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: I went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

1506
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: for like almost three hours today. It was awesome. Jeff

1507
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: fun I had so much fun.

1508
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: They got this interactive garage area where you could like

1509
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 2: pick up a guitar that's plugged in and it's playing

1510
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: over like the whole speakers and the play You could

1511
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 2: just like rip into it and teach you yourself a

1512
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 2: song on the steir. And then they got like a

1513
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 2: piano you can do that at they got drums you.

1514
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: Could do that and went there to play guitar. I

1515
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: did it for a little bit. And then next to

1516
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: it they have like karaoke bands, so you could like

1517
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: come in and tell them what instrument you want to

1518
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: play or if you just want to sing, and what

1519
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: song you want to do.

1520
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: And they have like people that work there. They are

1521
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: like bass player and piano and drums and this giant

1522
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 2: dude and this giant pink shirt got up there and dude,

1523
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: he belted out Don't let the Sun go down on

1524
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 2: Me by Elton John no Ship. And by the end

1525
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: of it, dude, he had like a crowd of like

1526
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: people were just coming out of nowhere.

1527
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: Like in front of this and someone sings that song, right,

1528
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: you get some people tearing up in the audience. It was.

1529
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: It was similar to Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure and

1530
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: the George Michael song or fucking.

1531
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean they sang it together that time, right, Yeah,

1532
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: there's not an Elton song anyway. Do you remember that

1533
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: scene in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure in the mall

1534
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: when they're when Beethoven's like got that jam session going

1535
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 2: and Genghis Khan's like knocking shit out with the bat

1536
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: and stuff, and they play that concert until.

1537
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: The cops come and am I right? The new one,

1538
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: the new one, The new one sucks ass. I don't know.

1539
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 2: If this was a big week for Morning com We

1540
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: may have taken steps back as a brand in terms

1541
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 2: of our internal relationships with a lot of these people.

1542
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: They've taken some steps.

1543
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 2: It all it all goes back to that that uh

1544
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 2: frat party that broke You know what.

1545
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: We we we've evaluated the fires. We should evaluate ourselves.

1546
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: We had a very Tommy Fury performance. I feel like,

1547
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: don't you wow? Don't you wow? Matt? Do we have

1548
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: a Tommy More?

1549
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: People were expecting big things, you know, people wanted they

1550
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: were already booking the territory in their future.

1551
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: Like when is when does when does r L and

1552
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: Luke get to work together at the same time? A

1553
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: lot of those messages. Yeah, I bet that date though,

1554
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: I bet it was good. Though, you know you and

1555
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: I right, Arion and I did not go on a date.

1556
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: We had a conversation, so we did you wish we

1557
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know? You know what I mean? Like, the

1558
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: thing is about the two weeks where I was, where

1559
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: it was, it was morning Campbell. It was very comfortable.

1560
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: So if you.

1561
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: Guys need to get back together, understand it. And Harry,

1562
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 2: if it's me and him, you get the boot. Excuse me,

1563
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 2: you get the you get the a boot.

1564
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: The thing is, though, right, I've already established myself as

1565
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: a solo option. I mean two weeks, right, so I'm

1566
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 1: not going to see you again for a while.

1567
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: On the road right, that's all the timing could be

1568
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: perfect by that point, none of us we're not.

1569
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: Gonna work for Showtime anymore. It's gonna be great. Yeah,

1570
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 1: we can just you know, go to the thing. Hey,

1571
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: if this is our last show together. Yeah, who went

1572
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: out on top? Yeah, not really, kind of went out

1573
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: at the bottom of a hotel. That's dying. I don't

1574
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: have much more. If you want to get Showtime, you

1575
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: can thirty day free trot. You can go to showtime

1576
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: dot com, which would not include paper reviews like it

1577
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: was tonight, but it would include things like most of

1578
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: your though you would let that be a fact that

1579
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: like no one really talks about. If you like it,

1580
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: you can keep it. If not, you can go to

1581
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: something else. Give us a follow please on all of

1582
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: our various social channel and we'll throw that up there. It

1583
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: is morn of Combat is everywhere, and then you can

1584
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: catch us on Instagram and Twitter. We are going to

1585
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: be back this week with live shows. We'll react to

1586
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: some of the stuff in the UFC and everything else.

1587
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: That's Brian Campbell want to thank everyone here from the

1588
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,560
Speaker 1: Malka staff. We made all the shows and all the

1589
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: CBS skins. We did here possible, so thanks to all

1590
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: of you. Thanks to Matt Our intrepid producer who was

1591
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: he was kind of here if he didn't have his phone.

1592
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what he would have done

1593
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: this week, but he was. You know, he was here

1594
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: for some ways. I would say it, you know, not

1595
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: totally right. I think this is our last show. Yeah,

1596
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: it probably is all right. Well with that in mind,

1597
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: that's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you guys so

1598
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: much for watching it. Until next time, peace,