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Speaker 1: when the cameras are off, the funniest guy you'd ever meet,

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Speaker 1: you'd call.

438
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Speaker 3: Action, and unfortunately he would.

439
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 2: You don't know anything about that.

440
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 3: I don't no idea what that's.

441
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Speaker 2: Right concept for you?

442
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 3: Strained right?

443
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so here's my question. Yeah, because it sounds

444
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 2: like there's like all these contract disputes and like when

445
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: the show was such a huge hit. Yeah, was there

446
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 2: a lot of behind the scenes drama? Like it sounds

447
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 2: like besides Alan Alda and Hot Lips Hulah and I

448
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: can like her name least, what's her name?

449
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: Hot Lips? Are you talking Loretta sweat.

450
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: Loretta like despies the two of them. It seems like

451
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: there's a lot of shuffling going on, a lot of

452
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Speaker 2: like it's it sounds like it's one of those things

453
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 2: like you have a hit show and then everybody kind

454
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 2: of uses that as a launching pad to do something else.

455
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Speaker 2: I don't know, it just was there a lot of

456
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Speaker 2: drama behind the scenes?

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

458
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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, there's there's rumor. Let's put it this way,

459
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 1: rumors abound. So there's some people that say, for instance,

460
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Speaker 1: uh uh uh, Gary Berghoff who played Radar and Radar

461
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: was there for eight, like he left halfway through this season,

462
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: halfway through season eight. Uh, there was If you go

463
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: back and you watch his last four episodes of the show.

464
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: He's on R and R in Tokyo, so he's shooting

465
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: in a hotel room or what's supposed to be a

466
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: hotel room by himself and then calling in to Clinger and.

467
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: Because of set drama he did, and.

468
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Speaker 1: So there's rumors that that was because people didn't want

469
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Speaker 1: to work with him or he was difficult to work with.

470
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Speaker 1: He's also done interviews since saying he was going through

471
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Speaker 1: some personal stuff at the time, really felt it was

472
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Speaker 1: time to leave the show, and that's why he left

473
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Speaker 1: after eight and a half seasons. All of the actors also,

474
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Speaker 1: almost to a person, say that he was the most

475
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Speaker 1: talented actor on the show.

476
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Speaker 2: Okay, so this episode involves a lot of like stunts

477
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Speaker 2: and single camera stuff. You have like, yeah, car crash,

478
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Speaker 2: you have motorcycle rides? Is that typical? Like with that

479
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: a single Okay? Because I was gonna say, this seems

480
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: like a harder job than your average sitcom. Based on

481
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: this episode alone, I was like, oh, this is not

482
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Speaker 2: as much fun or an easy schedule. Oh no, So there.

483
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Speaker 1: Wasn't the producers, by the way, the thing that I

484
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: knew you were going to hate. The producers hated as well,

485
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Speaker 1: there was a fight. They fought constantly with the network

486
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Speaker 1: because they did not want to laugh track.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like.

488
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Speaker 1: They absolutely and the concess the only concession that the

489
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Speaker 1: network was able to make, and you can watch this

490
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: throughout the series, is there's no laugh track in any

491
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: scene in ther interesting every other scene they throw.

492
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Speaker 3: In a laugh track, but there's no laughing.

493
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Speaker 2: It was audience.

494
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: No. The lafter shot at.

495
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Speaker 1: The ranch right near my house out here in California,

496
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: part the outdoor stuff, and then I think they were

497
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Speaker 1: on the Paramount lot where they you know, the inside

498
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: of the swamp and the oar and some of those places.

499
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Speaker 1: So they had their practical sets and then they had

500
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Speaker 1: I think two sets. I believe it was Paramount. I

501
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: could be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure it was.

502
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: So No, this was a very in depth show, a

503
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: lot going on, and obviously, like our show, as the

504
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: show progressed, you saw more and more things, you know,

505
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: more choppers landing and more things that cost money. But

506
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: this was at the time a not a popular show.

507
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: In the first season, it was almost canceled several times.

508
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: And so what you'll notice is the pilot episode they essentially.

509
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Speaker 3: Which is just called the pilot.

510
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: The season two episode one is then called Divided We Stand,

511
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: and they redid the pilot. They literally just reintroduced all

512
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: the characters again because the show wasn't doing well, so

513
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: they were burning off episodes during the summer, and then

514
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: there was nothing else on during the summer, so people

515
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: were starting to find it. And then the president of

516
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: CBS's wife became a big fan. He was going to

517
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: cancel it. She said, you can't cancel this. They retooled

518
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: the show, brought it back, and then it exploded and

519
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: became what it did. So that's what's missing in television

520
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: nowadays is nothing's allowed to grow anymore.

521
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: And so Mash.

522
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Speaker 1: Cheers the Office, all the shows you love, Seinfeld, these

523
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: were all shows that were almost canceled and then had

524
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Speaker 1: a champion at the network and were brought back.

525
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Speaker 3: So we saw a champion.

526
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Speaker 1: Yes, well, let me ask you a question again other

527
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: than confusion, what did you think about the episode?

528
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Speaker 2: It's weird, like yeah, I just I can't wrap my head,

529
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: or like it doesn't feel like a sitcom. It feels

530
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 2: like kind of its own thing. So I guess the

531
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Speaker 2: hardest part for me to wrap my head around was

532
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: just that I didn't laugh. It's like, and I don't

533
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: know if that's typical. It's what I appreciated wit, I

534
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: appreciated language and writing. I appreciated like, but I wasn't

535
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: like my biggest reaction would be hmm okay, it's never

536
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: like you know, it was always everything is so understated.

537
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: Everybody is so smart, Like all the characters are so smart.

538
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: Everybody's sort of like, I don't know, it's just a

539
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: very different mode than I'm used to. You know, I'm

540
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: used to like sitcom being sort of a character driven

541
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: thing where people are a little absurd and just bigger

542
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: and sort of you know, and especially like having a

543
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 2: laugh track on this doesn't make any sense because it's

544
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: lower energy. It's more like banter, you know, it's more

545
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: bantery and witty and clever. But it's not that's not

546
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: the same thing as like, uh, crazy misunderstanding with like hijinks.

547
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: You know.

548
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: So it was just a different mode, and like that,

549
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: I think that's what was confusing to me. It was

550
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 2: hard for me to understand, like what how to get

551
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: into the zone of watching this, you know, like I

552
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: want to I want to watch more because I did

553
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: I appreciate its intelligence. But here's the thing I started

554
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 2: to realize, like you kind of have to bring everything.

555
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: You have to bring everything to a level of irony

556
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: and understatement when the stakes are this high, like you're

557
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: dealing with life or death, you're dealing with a war situation,

558
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: and in order to make that okay to be funny,

559
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: you have to always sort of the characters have to

560
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: always be a little above the dialogue. They have to

561
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: always be a little like, you know, like when they're

562
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: when they're insulting each other or like, you know whatever,

563
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: there's always a level of irony or distance to it

564
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: that I don't know. It was just it's an interesting tone,

565
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: Like it's a really interesting tone. But I was like, yeah,

566
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't want them to be like real worried

567
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 2: about getting captured by the North, by the Koreans, you

568
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like I need a level of like, oh,

569
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: this has to be a joke about surrendering and like

570
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: making little comments to each other like do we put

571
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: our arms down? You put your arm like there's a

572
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: gun pointed at them? Like whether sitcoms have guns pointed

573
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: at each other? Like seriously, I was like, yeah, I

574
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: don't know how to make this funny. Like I would

575
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: be sitting there as a writer going like, well, there's

576
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 2: no way, and I would my instinct, because I'm a

577
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: very earnest person, I would be like, well, we got

578
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 2: to play the reality, we got to be freakd the

579
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: f out the whole time, and you can't, you know.

580
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: So I'm just not sure that this show is for

581
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: me in that way, because, like I the second a

582
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: gun enters the frame, or you're like literally lost in

583
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: enemy territory, or there's somebody dying on the oar, whatever

584
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure happens week to week. I'm like, we have

585
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: to play this for what it really is, and of

586
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: course you can't, because then it's not funny. Then it's

587
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: you know, but you can't.

588
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: So that's why this is why this episode is a

589
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: strange one to start with.

590
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 3: So there's a number of different mashes.

591
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the episode I would start with, which is I'm

592
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: gonna insist we all watch now because you're gonna be like,

593
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's a different television show.

594
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a completely different television show.

595
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: Is a season one episode called Sometimes You Hear the

596
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Bullet and it's the perfect balance of wacky, funny, wow

597
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: our I mean there's literally in that season two episode one,

598
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: there's a voiceover that comes on that goes like, join

599
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: our wacky surgeons every week as they I mean they

600
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: literally say that, and so it's the perfect combo of

601
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: it's really funny and it also rips your heart out.

602
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: So they did lean into farce sometimes they it's like

603
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: over the top.

604
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 3: Oh my god. That the first three seasons of this show,

605
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: that's all it is interesting, and then it comes totally

606
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 3: completely changes.

607
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: Right because then the other one I've I've heard of

608
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: that I've never seen is Hogan's Heroes, which was also

609
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: that's like a World War two detention camp comedy. Yes see,

610
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: like this kind of stuff. I just I have such

611
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: a hard time because I just my brain doesn't go there,

612
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 2: Like I'm not that type of person, like I so

613
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by it. But yeah, in general, I just

614
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: felt a little like low energy sort of like I

615
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: can appreciate a sophistication to this, but I'm.

616
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: Not laughing, right, and you'll be laughing hysterically at the

617
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: first three seasons.

618
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I mean really it was.

619
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: Way more sitcom and That's what some of the actors

620
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: had a problem with. They're like, we're in the middle

621
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: of a war, we've got a you know, Hawkeye was

622
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: a total womanizer, but in real life Alan also was

623
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: very much part of the feminist movement. So when he

624
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: started to get more creative control, the episode started to

625
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: be more about women's empowerment.

626
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: Like the show just changed.

627
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: So everybody talks about the different mashes, and people that

628
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: are big Mash enthusiasts will be like, I'm a season

629
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: one through three purist, which is what I am. I

630
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: love seasons one through three, four and five. The transition

631
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: seasons are great, and Winchester, who comes in is a

632
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: phenomenal actor.

633
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: But I preferred the early mash. It got very by eleven.

634
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: It's like it's so soapy that it's really heavy interesting.

635
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: The final episode is.

636
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: I like the way that the bast story did deal

637
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: with sort of feminist themes. In this one. I thought

638
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: it was clever because it's like the character driven makes sense, funny,

639
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: the guy gets his come up and so he's you know,

640
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: not the a story. I'm just not sure what the

641
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: tension was like between the two of them, other than

642
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: him being like a bad driver who gets them lost.

643
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: Right, they're just best friends.

644
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: They're just best friends. Right. So again, like, even though

645
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: you have these incredibly high stakes, I wasn't sure, like

646
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: what's what's the point of Like what are we learning about?

647
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I was just kind of like,

648
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: all right, we're just going from one situation to another

649
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: to another. It wasn't as character driven right to the

650
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: same extent. I was like, Eh, but you know, I'm

651
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm being you know, you know me, I'm.

652
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: No, But that's what that's what it should be.

653
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: And again, this is absolutely the wrong episode to start with,

654
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: but we're doing it because it's a Thanksgiving episode go

655
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: back and why, And we're gonna do this for Podmets World.

656
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to. We're gonna do a season one

657
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: episode and you're gonna be like the it's the equal

658
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: It's not even the equivalent of season one Boy Meets

659
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: World and season seven Boy Meets World. It's the equivalent

660
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: of season one Boy Meets World and season three step

661
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: by step, like it's a different show. It's just it's

662
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: season one Boy Meets World and season four er right,

663
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's too completely different.

664
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: Stright, So where do you put this in the in

665
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: the pantheon of.

666
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: These are not my favorite episod the later series. The

667
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: later episodes are not my favorite episodes. I usually get

668
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: to about season seven and I start over tapping out, yeah, yeah,

669
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: I start, I go back, I go back and start out.

670
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: I know them all from I didn't you know I'm

671
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: watching this again. I was like eleven thirty last time.

672
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I watching this? I know every

673
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: line of this. I don't need to see this again.

674
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: But let's get into the recap of the show for

675
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: the people who haven't seen it, who are now like,

676
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: please stop talking about mashup. Well, we still got a

677
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: lot more to go. So the opening credits. Everyone's aware

678
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: of the song, right, it's iconic. There is a full

679
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: version of the song with pretty shocking lyrics.

680
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: Honestly, have you heard the full version?

681
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: Writer?

682
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: Now?

683
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called Suicide is Painless is the name of

684
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: the song, and the suicide is Painless. It brings on

685
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: many changes and I can take it or leave it

686
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: if I please. Also a funny thing to know it

687
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: was a kid of I think one of the producers

688
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: or one of the network executives who wrote this song.

689
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: He apparently wrote it in like a day or two

690
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: and has made more money on mash than anyone else

691
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: involved with the show. Wow is not crazy. He was

692
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: like seventeen when he wrote it, or if he was

693
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: even that old when he wrote the song. So we

694
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: start in the medical tent. Another ill soldiers carried in

695
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: to see the doctor. It's Sergeant Rizzo, hunched over and moaning.

696
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: He asked Colonel Potter if he knows the feeling of

697
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: a weekend where you.

698
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: Just drink cheap booze and eat chili dogs. I wish

699
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: I felt that good.

700
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: And this is when the laugh track kicks in, cause

701
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: again we're in the post stop. We're not in oar

702
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: you can laugh and postop you can't laugh at nor.

703
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: Potter assures him he'll help with his stomach pains, but

704
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: Rizzo wants the truth.

705
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: Is it Raby's was a bit by a rat?

706
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: Potter shakes his head. No, we just received the lab reports.

707
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: It looks like salmonilla. And then you get your first

708
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: real sitcom joke, salmonella.

709
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: Who are they? The colonel realizes he's sicker than he thought.

710
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: Then Father mul kay, he walks in to see an

711
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: overwhelming amount of ill soldiers filling out the tent. He

712
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: can't believe Thanksgiving filled with so many casualties, but the

713
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: colonel explains that these are their own soldiers, and Potter

714
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: has figured out the issue.

715
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: He asked the.

716
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: Soldiers, is there anyone here who did not have some

717
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: of the turkey last night? All the soldiers grown in pain,

718
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: but Mulkayhey, looking fresh as a daisy, raises his hand.

719
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: Potter announces that the men were bitten by the bird

720
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: that fed him. Rizzo ask Clinger poisoned us with his

721
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving I'm sorry, I'll stop doing my Blake Clark impression

722
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: his Thanksgiving surprise. The colonel nods and Rizzos starts to fume.

723
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: Now I hope I live just so I can kill Clinger.

724
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: Fatherm okay. He admits, this is the first time I'm

725
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: giving thanks for missing Thanksgiving. The father offers his help

726
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: and Potter tells him to go pick a patient, any

727
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: patient then, none other than Corporal Klinger himself. And this

728
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: is again this is Clinger in military uniform, which has

729
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: only been a season and a half. Because Clinger was

730
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: dressing to get out of the army.

731
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: So he's a dress troublemaker, he's an outsider, he's the

732
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: sort of mischief maker of the show.

733
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: Yes, but it was really just he's he's vying for

734
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: he hates war, he doesn't want to. He has this

735
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: great speech one time, which is funny though back in

736
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: the day, where he's like, I don't want to get killed, obviously,

737
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: but I also don't want to kill anybody.

738
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna tell me I have to.

739
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm getting out, So he just wants to section eight

740
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: and it gets you know, he's just in dresses the

741
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: whole time, just trying to get out, and it's parts

742
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: of it are very funny. Again, I am I'm not

743
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: gonna couch any of this by saying all of this

744
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: age as well, some of it doesn't. It's a show

745
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: from the seventies. You gotta just know that it's a

746
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: show from the seventies. Can't apologize for everything.

747
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: But I feel like a lot of this storyline is

748
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: just all that Clinger. This is like he's kind of

749
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: the one who instigates situations that then screws everybody.

750
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, Clinger was in the first few seasons. He'd

751
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: pop up every once in a while. He wasn't in

752
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: every episode, so it wasn't until later that he started

753
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: to really get into the episodes and became again like Topanga,

754
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: same same kind of vibe. So none other than Corporal

755
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: Clinger comes bounding in with a smile, but is greeted

756
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: with a handful of angry groans. One of them yells

757
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 1: out Assassin. Clinger has no idea what he did wrong,

758
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: So Rizzo and Potter break the news your turkeys gave everybody.

759
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: The trots swears that this is the first class birds

760
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: from Sergeant Thermopolis at i Coore quarter Master, but Rizzo

761
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: calls them war surplus Cleaner doesn't budge it couldn't have

762
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: been as birds because he and Potter ate them too.

763
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: The colonel asked if he's reached out to the doctors yet.

764
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: Klinger says he's missed Major's Hulahan and Winchester, but they

765
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: should be here in an hour or so, and he

766
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: contacted Captain's Pearson Honeycutt at the a can Song, Mettalion aid,

767
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: and it'll.

768
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 3: Be three or four hours before they get there.

769
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Potter begins to walk away, then decides he has one

770
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: more thing to say to Clinger for Christmas.

771
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 2: We eat out.

772
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: Then we're in the middle of nowhere, which is actually

773
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: I think Woodland Hills in Calabasas in California Malibu State

774
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Park like that.

775
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: Whole areaverything that was so distracting from me is like,

776
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 2: I have hiked these trails. I literally have. I've camped

777
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: in Korea now where they shoot the opening helicopter sequence. Yeah,

778
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: is a famous little valley in Malibu where you can

779
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: still camp. It's a group campsite that's amazing, and I've

780
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 2: been there a bunch, so I was like, oh, yeah,

781
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: and I've hiked these trails. Geez, I've been on yeah,

782
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: so I could never there's no suspension of disbelief, like,

783
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I've literally sat there. Yeah.

784
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: Well it was until I think not even the last fire.

785
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: I think the fire before it there was a still

786
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: a mash setup. Yeah, so you could hike there and

787
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: there's tents and all that kind of stuff, and I

788
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: think I think most of.

789
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: It was wiped out unfortunately. So we're in the middle

790
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 3: of nowhere.

791
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: Honeycut and Hawkeye come flying down the road in an

792
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: army jeep. Hawkeye begs Honeycut to slow down, but he can't.

793
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Clinger told them to hurry. Hawkeye reminds him that it's

794
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: only seventy four miles away, but Honeycut admits it maybe

795
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: more than that. They're lost. Hawkeye wonders lost, like, where

796
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: the hell are we? Honeycut shrugs, well, we're not totally lost.

797
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: We're still in Asia. Hawk I thought that this was

798
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: a shortcut, Honeycut says it was. Look how fast we

799
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: got lost. Hawkeye calls him a nerd and demands they

800
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: go back. But then out of nowhere there's an abandoned

801
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: jeep that was crushed by a tree in the middle

802
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: of the road. Honeycut knew was.

803
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: The nerd term at this point.

804
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: It pretty newage, also.

805
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: Weirdly used because like, if you're a nerd, you don't get.

806
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: Lost, like we're there nerds. I guess there were nerds

807
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: in the fifties.

808
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: I can't. Yeah, but isn't a nerd supposed to be

809
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: somebody who's like nerdy, like they are pocket protector wearing

810
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 2: like mathematical like.

811
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: That was in the eighties. That became a nerd I

812
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: think in the fifties and that was geeche.

813
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: Okay, So when you're thinking it was just like an outsider,

814
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: what does it mean, Like you're just a nerd.

815
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: Like you're like, I think kind of like a like

816
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: a see it's a bob, like a bubblehead. I guess

817
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: like you're a nerd.

818
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 2: So I don't used to mean that your brain doesn't

819
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: work that well, because I think of a nerd now

820
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: as somebody who's like brain is hyper good, right, and

821
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: their social skills are really bad. And in this case,

822
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: he's using it the exact opposite.

823
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, because I look at a nerd like I'm

824
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: a nerd, like I just want to play d in exactly.

825
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: But you're like really into something and you're really good

826
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 2: at like certain things, but you're nerd like social skills

827
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: you're not like quite aware of.

828
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: Right right.

829
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't know like that it was such a weird use.

830
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: I was like this was still maybe this was still

831
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: kind of a newish term like it must have been.

832
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I get it.

833
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: It's also the show' supposed to This is supposed to

834
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: be nineteen fifty one, so it's like, I guess it

835
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: was used.

836
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. Uh.

837
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: That's one thing I will say about the show is

838
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of research and watch producers interviews

839
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. They were very important with historical accuracy,

840
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: to the point where.

841
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: There was one off arguably.

842
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: The worst named character in the history of television, a

843
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: black surgeon in the first season called spear Chucker. Oh

844
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: my god, that was the character's name.

845
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: Awful, just awful.

846
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: But they got rid of the character, not because the

847
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: actor was bad or because they didn't like them, but

848
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: because with the more research they did, there were no

849
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: black surgeons in Korea.

850
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: Wow.

851
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: So they unfortunately fired this actor. But God, that we

852
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: could say goodbye to that name forever was awful. What

853
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: did you think, so, honeycut spins out of control and

854
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: the car tips over, sending them men flying into the

855
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: dirt with all their supplies. Now, what did you think

856
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: of the crash with the camera move and like throwing

857
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: the helmets?

858
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 3: Did the crash work for you?

859
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: Totally? I actually after it happened, I was like, whoa

860
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: did they show the crash? And I had to go

861
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: back and I was like, no, they didn't. They cheated,

862
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: but it was a good cheat, right. I was impressed

863
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: all the like, That's what I was like. God. Credit

864
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: to the director for like basically taking a really basic

865
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: sitcom situation and having to shoot a single camera style

866
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: for a lot of it.

867
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 3: Like, ye, yeah, it's yeah.

868
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing when I saw it again,

869
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, they captured the violence of the accident

870
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: by with just the camera move And you can see

871
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: if you watch it again, Mike Farrell clearly like they

872
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: have him sit up really fast and throw his helmet. Yeah,

873
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: so it looks like his helmet is rolling away, but

874
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: you can see him like actually throwing it. So yeah,

875
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: you gotta go frame by frame, but it's pretty funny. Yeah,

876
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: And so they compose themselves. Hawkeye mentions he may want

877
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: to put a sign on his car caution student maniac.

878
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: Honeycut insists they can roll the vehicle back over all

879
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: by themselves, but Hawkeye isn't so sure. Regardless, the two

880
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: try pushing it over and fail toppling the car onto

881
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: its roof. Hawkeye says, all right, what are you waiting for?

882
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: Get in, which is I think my favorite moment of

883
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: the entire episode. Yeah, because you can just see that

884
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: it's not going to work. We're back in the medical tent.

885
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: Father Mulkayhee is helping Rizzo limp back to his cot.

886
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: When Clinger shows up to ask Rizzo how he's doing,

887
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: Rizzo turns his attention to the priest instead, asking to

888
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: make a confession.

889
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: I murdered someone tomorrow. He stares at Clinger with pure hatred.

890
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Clinger insists he's just trying to help, so Rizzo suggests,

891
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: then go die on your own, and then, almost on command,

892
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: a dizzy Clinger turns to Potter and says, you may

893
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: want to lie down, sir, you're getting blurry. Potter grabs

894
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: on a Clinger, who now has a hand over his

895
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: mouth to prevent himself from barfing.

896
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: Potter admits that this is some poetic justice.

897
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: Potter manages to place Clinger under the cot, right next

898
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: to Rizzo, who ceremoniously grows to the room clingers.

899
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: Got it.

900
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: They all break out into a weak round of applause

901
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: at the good news. Colonel Potter is about to celebrate

902
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: it's just him and the priest left, but before he

903
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: can even finish the sentence, he gags and runs out

904
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: of the door himself in a panic.

905
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: We're back in the middle of nowhere without that same personally, Yeah,

906
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: nothing happens. Nothing happens in that storyline.

907
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: The whole idea of other than Clinger gets it too.

908
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: That's it. Just like, yeah, but you could have just

909
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: come back with cut back and he's in bed.

910
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 2: I just wanted to. I once I was like, where

911
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: is this going? And then once the you know, hot

912
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: lips and are Yeah, once they entered, I was like cool.

913
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: But up until then, I was like, there's no conflict

914
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: here except just hate and Clinger.

915
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeahs again, he's the wacky Carroll.

916
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: Don't love watching people be sick, Like, don't love like

917
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: people just to throw up and you hear it all

918
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: the groans. I was like, yeah, it's uncomfortable.

919
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh again, I'm gonna be picking a different episode

920
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: fore you'd watch.

921
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're back in the middle of nowhere with Hawkeye

922
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: and Honeycut that are walking through deep brush with supplies

923
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: in hand. Honeycut suggests they keep their eyes out and

924
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: their earls peeled, right before they spot a North Korean soldier.

925
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: Both sides are startled, but the Korean soldier manages to

926
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: point his gun at Hawkeye and Honeycut, but then the

927
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: man smiles and excitedly says something in Korean.

928
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: Honeycut yells not to shoot.

929
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: In response to the Korean soldier quickly drops his gun,

930
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: then raises his arms in the air, just as Hawkeye

931
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: and Honeycut do the same. Now all three men have

932
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: their arms in the air. It's the opposite of a standoff.

933
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: The Korean soldier says something else they can't obviously understand him.

934
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: Hawkeye whispers to his partner, what's going on here, Beach,

935
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: but he doesn't know either. Hawkeye suggests they lower their

936
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: arms since the North Korean soldiers seems to be surrendering.

937
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: They argue over who should put their arms down first,

938
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: until Honeycut suggests, if you put your arms down and

939
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: he doesn't shoot, I'll do the same.

940
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: If he does shoot you, I'll put your arms back

941
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: up again.

942
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: They eventually put their arms down simultaneously, and once they do,

943
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: the North Korean soldier does the same with a.

944
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: Smile on his face.

945
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: Honeycut jokes that this is a great moment in military history.

946
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: They've all captured each other. Hawkeye tells their new friend

947
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: that they're not in the capturing department that's on the

948
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: third floor by the linens. As the two Americans try

949
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: to leave with their supplies, the Korean soldier runs over

950
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: to kneel in front of him, arms behind his head

951
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: in total surrender. Hawkeye and Honeycutt continue to walk past him,

952
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: wishing him the best as the man doesn't stop trying

953
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: to surrender. By the way, this is also a perfect

954
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: place to point out this same actor has played forty

955
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: two different characters on mash Are you serious? Yeah, they

956
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: had a very small at the time selection of Asian actor.

957
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 3: Oh, it wasn't even Korean.

958
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: It was just Asian, So Chinese, Chinese, American, Japanese, American,

959
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: Korean American.

960
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 3: You were just a Korean. So is there.

961
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: Anywhere where somebody's translated what he says throughout this episode?

962
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: I'm sure I would love.

963
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: To see the subtitles, because I was like the whole time,

964
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: I was like, why don't they just tell us what

965
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: he's saying? It'd be so cool.

966
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be interesting to see what he's actually saying.

967
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I actually think this episode would have been

968
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: so much better if the audience was able to see

969
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: his subtitles, right, Like, if there was a whole nother

970
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 2: layer to this storyline, Because the storyline is so clearly

971
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: from the point of view of the Americans, and it's

972
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: just like, oh, we have no idea what the crazy

973
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: foreigner is saying, right, And it's like, well, from his

974
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: point of view, it's the same thing, right, Like, what

975
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: are these crazy I'm trying to surrender and they're not

976
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: listening to me and they're not realizing that I want

977
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: to desert my army. Like that's a great point of

978
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: view too, And I would love if, like, you know,

979
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: the show had leaned into that, because I feel like nowadays,

980
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: that's what you would do, right, if you had this storyline,

981
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: you would have equivalent perspectives, and you would give him

982
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: that and the audience access to that with some subt

983
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: and it would be great. As it is. He's a caricature,

984
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: you know, he.

985
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: Was just yeah, I mean, and again, that was very

986
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: common back in the day. Obviously, they do do one episode.

987
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: I want to say, it's in season seven.

988
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: Call So.

989
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: One of the tropes that they use on the show

990
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: all the time is dear Blank is the name of.

991
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: The episode, So dear Dad.

992
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: We're big ones in the first season where it's you

993
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: hear Hawkeye's voiceover and he's kind of explaining things and

994
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: he's writing a letter to his dad, and then they

995
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: expand on that where they do you know, Dear Mildred

996
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: where colonel the colonel's writing his wife, and one of

997
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: them they do is called Dear Comrade, and it's actually

998
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: a spy comes into the camp and is pretending to

999
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: be the houseboy for Winchester and cleaning up the thing.

1000
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: But it's all from his point of view, and he's

1001
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: doing the voiceover writing back to the communist leaders in

1002
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: China talking about what's going on at the four oh

1003
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: seven seven in so it's an interesting one that's done

1004
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: all from his point of view. By the way, they

1005
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: do some things in these television shows, especially the later

1006
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: ones in this season as well, that you as a

1007
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: filmmaker and as a television mostly as a filmmaker, but

1008
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: as somebody who loves breaking ground and things that have

1009
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: never been done before are really amazing, Like they do

1010
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: one episode called point of View, where the entire episode

1011
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: is just the camera walking around and it's a point

1012
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: of view of an injured soldier being brought to the

1013
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: four oh seven seven, So you just see the arm

1014
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: and he's on the chopper and then they land and

1015
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: then it's all the characters coming and talking to him.

1016
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: They do another one that was written by Alan Alda

1017
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: and the medical advisor from the show, Walter Dishell, together

1018
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: where a soldier comes in with a very specific injury

1019
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: to his heart and they have a certain amount of

1020
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: time to fix him or he's going to be paralyzed,

1021
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: and a clock actually appears on the bottom of the

1022
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: screen and you're like following the clock to see if

1023
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: they get this.

1024
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: Aorda put back in in time.

1025
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: So they're doing things to break ground for TV that

1026
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: are actually pretty amazing.

1027
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: But okay, we're now back at base camp.

1028
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: Major hot Lips Hulahan and Major Winchester arrived back at

1029
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: the camp.

1030
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 2: Woman has entered the show.

1031
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: There you go.

1032
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: I was like, what a crazy set.

1033
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: All dudes all the time. Dude, it's war in the fifties.

1034
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: How I just could not believe. I was like, wow,

1035
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: I mean, so she must have been the only female

1036
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: on the set on a pretty regular basis. Is she

1037
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: the only female regular?

1038
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: No female regular?

1039
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: Yes, but they have there's nurses in every episode, and

1040
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: and they do a lot of especially in these later episodes,

1041
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: they do a lot of episodes based on the nurses.

1042
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: And I think the year she won her Emmy.

1043
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: There's an episode just called The Nurses where she gives

1044
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: a speech and breaks down crying, which is still people

1045
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: still talk about it for one of the best television

1046
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: moments of all time. She does this gas being like racking,

1047
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: sob that is just it's phenomenal. So yeah, she's but yes,

1048
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: only female regular on the show. And again they had

1049
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: to work you in because they would often in the wars,

1050
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: you know, the second they'd get wind that the the

1051
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: he's advancing, the women were shipped out.

1052
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: The nurses were there, but they were shipped out immediately.

1053
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, but she's here, She's here, Hula hand and

1054
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: are possible, mister Feenie.

1055
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: Major Winchester arrived back at the camp to help, and

1056
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: Colonel Potter's obviously very happy to see him, but Major

1057
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: Winchester can't help notice how awful the camp looks, and

1058
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: Potter looks.

1059
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: He quips, I'm glad you noticed.

1060
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: I'd hate to feel this rotten, and have to hate

1061
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: to feel this rotten and have it just be my

1062
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: little secret. He reveals that the entire camp has salmonila

1063
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: thanks to Klinger's turkeys. He can hardly say a word

1064
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: without puking.

1065
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: Rider's favorite.

1066
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: Major Hulahan commands the colonel to get some rest, and

1067
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: he responds, don't get your irish up with me, but

1068
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: Major Winchester backs her up. However, he'd like to freshen

1069
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: up a bit before he attends to the ill soldiers.

1070
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: Potter moxham, I'll have room service send over a nice again,

1071
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: burping turkey sandwich, close to barfing again, he asks, you

1072
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: want to move it now or you want to move

1073
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: it later.

1074
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: With that, Winchester and Hulahan move quickly into the medical tent.

1075
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: And yes, even by this point, I was like, I

1076
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: don't need them all about constantly on the verge of

1077
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: throwing up.

1078
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets much, It gets much, as I would

1079
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: like to say. But we're back in the medical tent.

1080
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 3: Father okay. He is still running around trying to attend

1081
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 3: the soldiers.

1082
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: Clinger appears at the door with a bucket in his hand,

1083
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: ready to help, but immediately a bedpan is thrown and

1084
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: just merely misses his face.

1085
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: Father m'kay.

1086
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: He takes that as a no, but Clinger insists if

1087
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: he's needed, he'll just be under his bed.

1088
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: Then Major Hulhan and Winchester enter the room. The priest

1089
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 3: is relieved the Marines have landed.

1090
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: Hulahan realizes there's a lot in his played here, but

1091
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: the father doesn't mind. He admits he's never felt more

1092
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: useful or needed, which was another trope they went to

1093
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: A lot was a priest in wartime. They do a

1094
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: lot of episodes based around him later, where he's like,

1095
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: all I do is walk around watching people break commandments

1096
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: all the time, and nobody's coming to my I just

1097
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: am not useful at all, and it's very, very interesting.

1098
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: He exits the room with some dirty sheets. As Winchester

1099
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: surveys the room himself. He announces that all the patients

1100
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: really need at this point is rest and attention, in

1101
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: other words, nursing. So he's just going to take a

1102
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: quick shower and nap. But Major Hulahan and shouts one

1103
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: step more out that door buster, and you'll.

1104
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 3: Need a doctor.

1105
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: She commands him to start with cleaning the linens, but

1106
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: Winchester thinks she must be kidding. She counters, Okay, then

1107
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: start with the bedpans and work your way up. He's

1108
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: offended washing clean. I'm a doctor, not a woman. Show

1109
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: That takes place show shot in the seventies that takes

1110
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: place in the fifties.

1111
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 2: And isn't that like a reframing of the classic Star

1112
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: Trek line. Damn it, Jim, I'm a.

1113
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 3: Doctor and I'm a doctor now. I didn't even think

1114
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 3: about that. I'm a doctor here right, yeah.

1115
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sixteen I wonder because I was I was like, oh,

1116
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: that's a call back to that in some ways. And

1117
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: this is where I was like, there's a story all right, conflict,

1118
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: Like that's what I mean, Like the previous scene with Clinger,

1119
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: Like they could have folded into this, like they could

1120
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: have just had Clinger getting sick and everybody being happy

1121
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: about it. But now we finally have like two characters

1122
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: with conflict. And I was like, oh cool, I'm going

1123
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: to get to see these two go at it and

1124
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: you know, it's great and it gets better.

1125
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, we oh god, get wait for you

1126
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: to see the earlier episodes.

1127
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: We're now in the middle of Nowhere again.

1128
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,959
Speaker 1: Hawkeye and Honeycut are still trudging through a dirt pass

1129
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: and the North Korean soldiers following close behind them. Hawkeye

1130
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: calls the soldier Ralph, and Honeycut questions the name. Hawkeye

1131
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: explains Kathy Harris's kid brother. Whenever we wanted to go

1132
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: for a walk or the movies, there was little Ralphie

1133
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: tagging along. Honeycutt wonders if they give him a quarter,

1134
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: will he go home, and then Hawkeye remembers, though I

1135
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: still owe that little band at three hundred dollars and

1136
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: twenty five cents. Honeycut spots a small area with brush

1137
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: coverage and decides they could use a little break. Hawkeye

1138
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: sarcastically notes, we're gonna sit now, beach. Try not to

1139
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: get lost on the way down. Honeycut assures him he'll

1140
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: get them out. Once the men sit, the North Korean

1141
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: soldier follows suit. Hawkeye decides it's time to try out

1142
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: his roadmap. He uses a stick to draw their location

1143
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: in the dirt and explains that they'd like to go

1144
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: from here to the mash four oh seven seventh. The

1145
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: soldier appears to know how. He gets up proudly holding

1146
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: his gun, but the guys quickly realize he has no

1147
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: idea where they are. But then the soldier aggressively points

1148
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: their guns in their faces and shouts to them. The

1149
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: guys are obviously startled. Hawkeye tells Honeycutt to give him

1150
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: a quarter. The soldier forces them to stand up, but

1151
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: the gun still pointed at them. Then we see four

1152
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: other armed North Korean soldiers walking their way. Hawkeye whispers

1153
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: to Honeycut, remember only your name, rank and serial number,

1154
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: and if they ask nicely, MacArthur's home address. Ralph angrily

1155
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: shushes them before speaking to his fellow soldiers. The guys

1156
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: joke nice day, huh, how about those dodgers, which prompts

1157
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: the Koreans to point their loaded guns at the two

1158
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: Americans actually cocking the guns. They are literally now standing

1159
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: in front of a fiery line, but Ralph jumps in

1160
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: and stops them. The other soldiers reluctantly lower their guns

1161
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: as Ralph quietly speaks to them, ending with a smile

1162
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: on his face. Honeycut and Hawkeye watch their fates unravel

1163
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: right before them. Finally, Ralph makes the other soldiers laugh

1164
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: and they decide to leave him with the Americans. Ralph

1165
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: watches his fellow soldiers leave, then points his gun back

1166
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: at Hawkeye and Honeycut, threatening them in Korean, but once

1167
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: he notices his buddies are gone, he gives them one

1168
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: of the funniest double winks in television history. Ralph just

1169
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,959
Speaker 1: saved their butts. Once Hawkey announces that the Bowery boys

1170
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: are out of sight, Ralph surrenders again and they both

1171
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: run over and completely embrace him, which was a great turn.

1172
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: We're now back at base camp. Father m'kay. He is

1173
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: gleefully singing to himself as he washes the soldier's linens

1174
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: with Major Winchester. Winchester is, of course less than pleased

1175
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: with the chore, sweat coating his face while ringing a

1176
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: sheet dry. The priest exclaims there's nothing better than feeling needed.

1177
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: Then hot Lip storms in criticizing Major Winchester for his

1178
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: battleship gray sheets.

1179
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: They need to be stark white. The Major absolutely loses it.

1180
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: His hands are prune from slaving over the cesspool all day.

1181
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: Father m'kay he is displeased talking about prunes at a

1182
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: time like this.

1183
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: The Major declares that he abdicates his tub and washboard.

1184
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: Major Hulihan points out a stack of bedpans with his

1185
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: name on him instead.

1186
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 3: Winchester, let's laugh. This is great, Winchester, let's out a laugh.

1187
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: I'd sooner do the Lindy with Eleanor Roosevelt Hulahan counts

1188
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: him in oh one and two. Father, m'kay. He tries

1189
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 1: to play peacekeeper, but they're not having it. Instead, Winchester declares,

1190
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember that you're a woman and a

1191
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: fellow officer.

1192
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 3: She screams back, don't patronize me, skinhead.

1193
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: He responds with eurn not in charge here, bimbo, and

1194
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: it's just crazy. Before things even get more heated, father

1195
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: and okay, he finally intervenes, we just can't afford to

1196
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: act like nincompoops.

1197
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 3: Great use in nincompoop. We need to bring that back.

1198
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: There are sick people here, and the three of us

1199
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: are all that they have. The majors pull it together

1200
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: and manage to apologize to one another, who hand earnestly

1201
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: asks what'll it be?

1202
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: Sheets are bedpans.

1203
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: Winchester pauses for a moment, then sings, father, okayes.

1204
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: Whereabout to wash her sheets? Wash her sheets?

1205
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: Wash her sheets?

1206
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 3: What did you think? What do you think of that scene?

1207
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: It's good because there's conflict, character based conflict. I wish

1208
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 2: that they had set up like the priest a little

1209
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: bit more as like, you know, an easy fix for

1210
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: me would have been like if in the earlier scenes

1211
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: he had tried to intervene to like make people get

1212
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: along in the with a Clinger situation and couldn't, But

1213
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: in this instance, he was you know, because it was

1214
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: I just wanted everybody to sort of there's a rewrite

1215
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: in there. But yeah, but no, this is where I

1216
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: was like, great, there's fireworks because even in the other storyline,

1217
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: like I am, I'm having a hard time seeing the

1218
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: difference in character between Hawkeye and BJ I'm like, yeah,

1219
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: but these are both kind of similar dudes, white dudes

1220
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: with similar like ironic vibes, and like, I don't know,

1221
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: I just wanted, like, I want to know.

1222
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: That's literally one of the reasons that the network asked

1223
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: Mike Ferrell to.

1224
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: Grow a mustache, just so they could tell them apart.

1225
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: So they can tell them apart.

1226
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a you know, I just you could

1227
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: tell that they were just into like a vibe of

1228
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: a certain type. But it's like, but you know, this

1229
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: is a great opportunity, like and they're trying to make

1230
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: it like you got us lost, But I was like,

1231
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: but they're kind of the same guy. Like, and so

1232
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: anytime that there's like this where I see different types

1233
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: of people going at it, I'm like, great, that's that's conflict.

1234
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: And earlier the characters were very different when when BJ

1235
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: first got there, because he's supposed to be fresh out

1236
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: of residency. He's he's married with a new baby, and

1237
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: he's like very he still likes to drink and have fun.

1238
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: But where Hawkeye is the lothario and is out there

1239
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: womanizing all the time, BJ is very you know, he's

1240
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: also very loyal to his wife, so that was a

1241
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: different character thing. But they the network came to them

1242
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: after a season or two and just said, you guys

1243
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: even look too much alike it.

1244
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: Can you grow mustag But that's what I mean.

1245
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: I think that like when I said banter, you know,

1246
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: like the banter is the priority. It's sort of like,

1247
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: you know, it's the wit of the dialogue that's more

1248
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: important than the actual like revelation of character. Yeah, everybody's

1249
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: sort of above it.

1250
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, I'm gonna be when we watch

1251
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: the next episode, which I'm gonna pick, You're literally gonna

1252
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: start by going, it's a completely different television, Joe.

1253
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 3: It's a completely different television, Joe. So we're back in

1254
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: the middle of nowhere.

1255
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: Hawkeye Honeycutt and now Ralph have continued their quest towards

1256
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: the mash four or seven seventh when they stumble upon

1257
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: a Korean man in trouble. He's buried beneath a hay cart.

1258
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: They run to his aid and managed to lift it

1259
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: off of him. Honeycut attends to the man's wounds. Hawkeye complains,

1260
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: just our luck, foreigner. Honeycut offers a new rule from

1261
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: now on, no invading the country if you don't speak

1262
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 1: the language. The injured man tries to tell them something,

1263
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: but they obviously can't understand them. Instead, Hawkeye introduces the

1264
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: trio to the pedestrian, joking that he probably knows honeycut

1265
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: from driving school. Honeycutt asks the man's name, and he

1266
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: and Ralph both respond in Korean.

1267
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 3: Hawkeye admits, that's a lot to remember. How about we

1268
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 3: just call you Fred for short.

1269
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,479
Speaker 1: Honeycutt finishes wrapping the man's foot, and when he tries

1270
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: to stand up, he shrieks in pain. They realize they

1271
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: have to get him home, which shouldn't be too far right.

1272
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: Honeycutt wonders how they'll get him there, and Hawkeye decides

1273
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: he'll be carried by all of those.

1274
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 3: Who got us lost and walking. Honeycut bends down to

1275
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: piggyback the man, admitting his mother always told him never

1276
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 3: to pick up strangers. And we're now back at base camp.

1277
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: Major Hulhan is continuing with her chores when she walks

1278
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: by Major Winchester's room his tent and notices that he's sleeping.

1279
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: She tears down the screen and screams his name at

1280
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: the top for lung. Startled, he falls off the bed

1281
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: in terror. She continues, did you just see what I

1282
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,479
Speaker 1: did to that tent?

1283
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 3: Next? It's gonna happen to you.

1284
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: He tries to reason with her, but she insists if

1285
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: you're not hard at it in three second so you're

1286
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: gonna drown in rice gruel. He swears it was just

1287
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: a mistake. He was making the bed with nice clean

1288
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: sheets and then slipped. She starts to count three two.

1289
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: He shouts, I'm working. I'm looking for sick people. He

1290
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: peers under the bed. Anyone under here need a doctor?

1291
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: She loses it again. How dare you sleep while this

1292
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: whole camp is in bed? She storms out of his room,

1293
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: buckets of rice gruel in hand. We are now back

1294
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. The men finally arrive at

1295
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: fred Shack and are greeted by a woman who they

1296
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: assume is Missus Fred. They move chickens and set the

1297
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: man down in a shed. Missus Fred and Ralph reveal

1298
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: a dusty motorcycle for the men to use. Honeycut boasts

1299
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: that he led them straight to honest Fred's use motorcycle

1300
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: a lot, but Hawkeye doesn't understand how they're going to

1301
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: drive that thing. Well, Honeycutt has another trick up his sleeve.

1302
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: Apparently he's Mill Valley's finest surviving motorcycle rider. He assures

1303
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: them that they've got no problem. Then he checks the motorcycle.

1304
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: We've got one problem. But his fate would have it well,

1305
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: Fred hans Hawkeye a big old Canna gasoline.

1306
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 3: By the way, Mike Farrell must actually be a.

1307
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: Motorcycle rider in real life, or was at the time,

1308
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: because there's three separate storylines where he finds a motorcycle.

1309
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: There's this one, there's another one where he gets one

1310
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: and then it's trashed by a visiting journalist, and then

1311
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: the last episode he literally rides off on a motorcycle

1312
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: with his San Francisco placard on the front.

1313
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: So Mill Valley is Mill Valley, California.

1314
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: That's where he's from. Milboury.

1315
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: He in one episode he is able for two hundred

1316
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: dollars to put a down payment on a big plot

1317
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: of land on Stinson Beach. Oh my god, and he's

1318
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: running around trying to raise the two hundred bucks.

1319
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: I'll be worth like ten million dollars exactly.

1320
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, so yes, he is from He's from California,

1321
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: which is a big part of his storyline.

1322
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: Actually, is he supposed to be kind of like a

1323
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: beatnick California.

1324
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: No, but he's no, not at all.

1325
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: But he's like what Winchester who went to Harvard always

1326
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: looks down at him. He's like, you're a billion surgeon

1327
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: even though you were bowl and raised and trained in California.

1328
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: Interest like it's a it's a whole thing.

1329
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but yes he is a he's a San

1330
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: Francisco boy. So Hawkeye smells the gasoline it has a

1331
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: visceral reaction to liquid, before handing it over and suggesting

1332
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: a swig. Hawkeye takes his seat in the ancient looking

1333
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: sidecar and Honeycutt loads up the gas tank. But just

1334
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: as the men are about to leave. Ralph blocks their path.

1335
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: He wants to come along with them. Hawkeye asks would

1336
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: Bob Hope and Bing Crosby leave without Dorothy Lamore. Honeycutt

1337
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: agrees they can't break up the set and tells Ralph

1338
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: to climb aboard.

1339
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 3: They sput her off all smiles. The medical tent.

1340
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: Do you know who Dorothy Lamour is?

1341
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 3: She was a She was a film actress, wasn't she.

1342
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh yeah, no, this cowboy, this is

1343
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: like Michael Jacob's reference. I'm like, oh boy, I'm supposed to.

1344
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I've heard the name bing Crosby. That's about it,

1345
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: pretty sure.

1346
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: But they yeah, they talk about a lot of fifty stars,

1347
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: Gene Tierney and all the kind of people like that.

1348
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: It's yeah, this is this might have been one of

1349
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: the places that made me go back and find out

1350
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: who they all were. Was all the mash that I watch,

1351
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: It's all definitely possible. We're back at the medical tent now.

1352
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: Colonel Potter walks in and follow them. Okay, he greets him,

1353
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: more chipper than ever. The Colonel just shakes his head.

1354
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: He's indomitable. Next he runs into Major Hulahan. She reminds

1355
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: him he really should be in bed, but he promises

1356
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be here if he couldn't handle it. He

1357
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: asks if there's been any signs of septoicemia or complications

1358
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: among the other soldiers, and since everything has calmed down,

1359
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: he suggests she'd take a break while he watches over

1360
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: the place. Before she goes, though, he wonders where Major

1361
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: Winchester is. Hulahn says he finished his rounds and now

1362
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be putting clean sheets on all the bunks.

1363
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 3: Even the colonel laughs, he'd like to see that.

1364
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: Hulahan heads out, and Colonel Potter takes a seat next

1365
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: to one of the ill soldiers. He gives him a

1366
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: word of advice. The best way to beat this thing

1367
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: is to just put it out of your mind. He

1368
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: wishes he could, but it's kind of like being on

1369
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: the ocean.

1370
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: Up and down, up and down.

1371
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: And then it gets into his head, and then it

1372
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: gets into my head and starts spinning around and around.

1373
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: The colonel starts looking a little queasy as he follows

1374
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: the man's description. Then both of them start to gag,

1375
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: and the colonel bends over to move him over. This

1376
01:00:54,440 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: is another reoccurring character named Igor who his name's Igor

1377
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: Straminsky is the name of the character who's.

1378
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 3: An actor named Jeff Maxwell.

1379
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: And I know Jeff because he hosts he co hosts

1380
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: with Ryan Patrick the Mash podcast that I went on,

1381
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: and so he was started as a background actor, and

1382
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: then as they go on, he's in more and more episodes,

1383
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: he gets more and more lines. That's one thing Mash

1384
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: did really well is a bunch of the characters for

1385
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: the final episode, you actually stand up and give speeches

1386
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: like here's what I'm doing. After the war were background

1387
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: actors that had been there for ten or eleven years

1388
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: that they literally started giving storylines too. It's like you've

1389
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: been here forever, We're going to write an entire episode

1390
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 1: about your character, which I thought was is really cool

1391
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: for an actor.

1392
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jeff's a great guy. Shout out Jeff Maxwell

1393
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 3: and Ryan Patrick. By the way. Yeah, go watch Mash

1394
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 3: Matters or listen to Mash Matters.

1395
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: Great podcast.

1396
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 3: We're now back at base camp.

1397
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: Honeycutt, Hawkeye and Ralph come speeding in on the motorcycle

1398
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: right where Winchester is hanging the linens to dry. He

1399
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,479
Speaker 1: realizes are head to write for him, and honeycutt can't

1400
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: stop it. They end up tearing right through the clean

1401
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: linens and crashing into some metal cases.

1402
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 3: Winchester screams with them.

1403
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: You brainless twits, Look what you've done to my laundry,

1404
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: and then he notices the Korean man who's joined them

1405
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: on the bike, now waving his arms in the air again.

1406
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: Honeycut responds, shame on, you don't you recognize the international

1407
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: signal for touchdown. The Major points out the obvious, the

1408
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: man's a North Korean soldier. Hawkeye quips, right, he's here

1409
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: to pick up his laundry. Good thing it was ready,

1410
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: or he'd have to shoot you. And then everyone else

1411
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: comes to greet them. Major Hulhan retrieves the antibiotics well.

1412
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: Colonel Potter asked what.

1413
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 3: Took them so long? Did they stop at the beach?

1414
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: Ralph motions to surrender once again, and the colonel simply

1415
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: asks who's this. They say it's Ralph and go back

1416
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: to life as normal. Hawkeye begins his spiel, neither rain

1417
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: nor sleep, nor snow nor broken jeep. Honeycut continues, nor kidnap,

1418
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: nor surrender, nor dark of lost, and the colonel cuts

1419
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: them off. The jabbering lamp is out on their way

1420
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: to post stop. Hawkeye tells Winchester to come along in

1421
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: case any of the patients need fluff and fold. Ralph

1422
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: continues to surrender, and Honeycut calmly tells him to come

1423
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: along too. They've come this far. There's no need to

1424
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: be strangers. Hawkeye adds, there's a whole ward of people

1425
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: you haven't surrendered to you yet. Ralph jumps up and

1426
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: down with excitement. Then we're in our tag, which is

1427
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: in Clinger's room. Clinger desperately fumbls around for a phone,

1428
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: finally grabbing one to connect to Sparky. Sparky is the

1429
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: guy who's always on the other end when the other

1430
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: end of that phone when they call, has been for

1431
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: eleven years. One time you see Sparky and one time only.

1432
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: He tells them, hook me through to HQ supply and hurry.

1433
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: It looks like clingers in rough shape. Just as he's

1434
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: about to speak with sergeants Themopolis, but he's finally connected.

1435
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: He angrily tells the sergeant, you know that turkey you

1436
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: sold me stuff it now.

1437
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: It ends on his face in a gasp. What did

1438
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 3: you think that.

1439
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 2: Meant, oh, I have no idea what. I just was like,

1440
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 2: it's just clinger, I have no ied it. I was

1441
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: literally like at this point, what.

1442
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: Why No, because there's some people that think I've had

1443
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: conversations about some people that think themopolis said something that

1444
01:03:53,440 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: makes and go, whereas I think he himself and that's

1445
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: why he's like, hurry up, hurry up, and then he

1446
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: says stuff it.

1447
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 3: And then that men. Then he's like, because.

1448
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that makes sense. I was literally like, what's

1449
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: the joke. I don't understand what's happening? Didn't always end

1450
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 2: on a freeze frame?

1451
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the music kicks in and then funny,

1452
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: oh that you could also you would tell they would

1453
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: dictate the tone of the show by the way the

1454
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: show ended. So either it ends like this and a

1455
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: laugh and it's frozen then then then or it would

1456
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: freeze and it was a somber note and it would

1457
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: go they'd slow it down, or it would freeze and

1458
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: there'd be silence, and that's when you knew it was

1459
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: a big tough episode.

1460
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: So the only characters who changed or grew at all, Well,

1461
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 2: Winchester cares about laundry. Yeah, cares about laundry. By the end,

1462
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 2: I like storyline, right, Okay, anybody else Ralph, Ralph surrenders

1463
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: gets his goal, which is to surrender and join the Americans.

1464
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 3: It's a romprid, It's a Korean War romp.

1465
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: What changed?

1466
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: Nothing? Oh god, nothing, I can't. Oh my god.

1467
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 1: When you see sometimes you hear the bullet which again,

1468
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: first season show, you're going to call me and be like,

1469
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: this show is brilliant.

1470
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 3: Why wasn't this like this the whole time?

1471
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: Sure?

1472
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: But one of the reasons is one of the reasons

1473
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: is because.

1474
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: Think about how few shows in history, literally in television history,

1475
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: got better the longer they went on. And I used

1476
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 3: to argue.

1477
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 2: Seasons six seasons, I feel like is where you start

1478
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 2: max and out.

1479
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

1480
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: I used to think Boy Meets World was getting better

1481
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: as we went on, And now that we're rewatching it,

1482
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true.

1483
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: No, you just got better.

1484
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 3: No, I just got bigger. That doesn't necessarily mean.

1485
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: It's definitely you were getting better progressively as the show

1486
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: went on.

1487
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: But the show itself, think of all the best shows

1488
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: in history, I mean, Cheers, The.

1489
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: Office, Friends, Get stayed pretty good all the way through

1490
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: the end and Seinfeld, Yeah.

1491
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: But again by the time on Friends, when now Rachel

1492
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: and Joey are dating, You're like, wait, they're together now.

1493
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's some times in the later episodes

1494
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: of every show I can think of it, and I

1495
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: would love for our fans to write into Danielle Fischel

1496
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,479
Speaker 1: to tell her, uh no, seriously, can you to say,

1497
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: what are some shows that you really believe got better

1498
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: the longer.

1499
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 3: They were on? Now I could argue we got but

1500
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 3: then dropped off.

1501
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the smartest shows are the

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Speaker 2: ones that that say, we have an end point in mind,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to pull the plug at a certain point.

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Speaker 2: Get your so much, yes, exactly, But there's always so

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Speaker 2: much money on the line, you know. It's like that's

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01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: the problem with something like Friends. All those people wanted

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Speaker 2: to move on in their careers, but it's like, no,

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01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: there's just too much to be made here, so they

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Speaker 2: keep going to the deck.

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Speaker 3: They've giveing them a million dollars an episode.

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Speaker 1: As much as you hated Boy Mets World, if they

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Speaker 1: came back to you for a season eight said we'll

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Speaker 1: give you a million dollars an episode.

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Speaker 3: You would have stayed.

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Speaker 1: Probably, Yeah, yeah, of course, it's just it's life changing money.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have to take them.

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Speaker 1: No, God, no, you're kidding them. I still owe Disney

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Speaker 1: money for being on that show.

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Speaker 2: Every time they air an episode of I got to

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Speaker 2: send them ID.

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Speaker 1: So, for everybody out there who has never seen an

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Speaker 1: episode of MASH, if this is your first episode of MASH,

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Speaker 1: don't judge Mash by this episode is what I would

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Speaker 1: definitely say. It's a Thanksgiving episode of MASH, which is

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Speaker 1: why we did it. But don't judge this.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Go back and start with the pilot and watch it forward.

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Speaker 1: That's the way to do MASH. And I promise you

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a different show than it is here,

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Speaker 1: much like Dancing with the Stars, which apparently this first

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01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: season is very different than the seasons that we have now,

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Speaker 1: but we wouldn't know because we never saw it. See how,

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Speaker 1: I brought it right back to Danielle since she's not

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Speaker 1: here and we're the dan Yettes and it's always got

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Speaker 1: to end on a Danielle thing.

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Speaker 3: So that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: episode of Podmeats World. As always you could follow us

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