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Speaker 1: We're back with another School Stories presented by three M,

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Speaker 1: the official sites partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, we

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Speaker 1: are catching up with Vikings legend offensive tackle Brian McKinney.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to school Stories presented by three M. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: We're catching up with a Vikings legend. He's one of

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Speaker 2: the biggest legends, and I mean physically biggest man, one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest man I've ever seen, who was part

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Speaker 2: of some of the most impressive offensive line groups in

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Speaker 2: Viking history. He's a mountain of a man formerly known

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Speaker 2: as Big Mac. Please enjoy tonight's conversation with Vikings legend

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Speaker 2: Brian McKinney.

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Speaker 1: Well, Brian McKinny, it's great catching up with you once again.

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Speaker 1: It is hard to belief it's been over a decade,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, since you've been in a Viking uniform. The

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Speaker 1: first question I think the fans would like to know

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Speaker 1: is what are you up to? How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What's keeping you busy these days?

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Speaker 3: Actually, right now is keeping me busy is my toy

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Speaker 3: drive that I have from my b major foundation. So

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Speaker 3: I'm working on that. Out of day. I'm down here

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Speaker 3: in Miami one to five at my Way Steakhouse. Besides that,

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Speaker 3: I have my company called les Chat, which we do

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Speaker 3: anything you got, We can pretty much handlate in real time.

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Speaker 1: That's terrific. It sounds like a great project.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did. We were doing We had the NFL

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Speaker 3: for three years and then they changed. Forget the package

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Speaker 3: that were doing. We were doing. We were doing a

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Speaker 3: subsiding for them, and we didn't do it this season

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Speaker 3: because there's a change. But we're I'm scheduled to get

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Speaker 3: back on board next season. And then we just signed

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Speaker 3: Major League Soccer too, so we'll start doing them as well.

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Speaker 2: Brian, So let's go back. Let's go back. Let's go

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Speaker 2: way back to college. And I just want to get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on the college playoffs system and the way

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Speaker 2: it stands down because you guys were kind of on

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Speaker 2: the wrong end of that back in the day. I

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Speaker 2: think it was two thousand and one to Earth, sorry,

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Speaker 2: and then came back and won the whole thing. So

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Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on the college football playoffs im

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Speaker 2: and just kind of the state of college football in

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Speaker 3: Hurricanes, we kind of laughed at the fact that it

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Speaker 3: was Florida because they're the ones who bumped us out

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Speaker 3: of two thousand, so the fact that was Florida State,

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Speaker 3: we kind of laughed at him to said, kind of

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Speaker 3: say it was karma. But overall, I do think that

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Speaker 3: that was kind of like they were undefeated. So I

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Speaker 3: can't see how you can make a decision based off

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Speaker 3: of a player who won't be playing in that game.

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Speaker 3: Like I feel like they still deserve to be in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, but you you're eliminating them from the playoffs

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Speaker 3: to be undefeated. So I don't understand why that's affecting.

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Speaker 1: You were again backing up just a little bit before that,

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Speaker 1: you were up in the Woodbury, New Jersey and ended

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Speaker 1: up going down to South Beach. This was before a name,

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Speaker 1: image and likeness, So you didn't exactly have briefcase full

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Speaker 1: of full of money or did you that were all offered.

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Speaker 3: To you to go to The rumor about University of

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Speaker 3: Miami right right, just a.

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Speaker 2: Rumor right, A couple right.

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Speaker 1: What ultimately led the decision for you to go there?

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Speaker 3: Kind of my parents. I actually became between Miami and

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Speaker 2: Now, when you were drafted by the Vikings, do you

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Speaker 3: And that wasn't that was I want to say, that

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that that was Kevin Williams. Okay, you know

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Speaker 2: I would just assume it was like nothing, like, no

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Speaker 3: I don't get it. For me, it wasn't a big

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Speaker 3: No, he helped me because there would be even times

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Steve Line, Yeah he didn't. He didn't. He

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Speaker 3: Right, So once he did. Once he did that, and

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Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. Did you have an extended

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, So that was one of the things I felt like,

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Speaker 2: Once you got into the groove of things, who were

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Speaker 3: At the beginning, KGB from Green Bay in the past

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Speaker 2: how about your own teammates? What guys? Uh, what guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Matt Berger is probably out of everybody, one who

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Speaker 3: I keep in touch with the most. Ryan Cook a

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Speaker 3: also remember man Berg ended up winning in Baltimore as well.

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Speaker 3: Go to a whole brawl between those teams.

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Speaker 2: And you guys knew though, if you guys, if we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we brought over because the coach Sides was

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Speaker 3: All, So he kind of was like it was like

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Speaker 1: A lot of that offensive room changed in two thousand

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Speaker 1: Steve Hutchinson now in the Hall of Fame. What he

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Speaker 3: I remember he had a great like hands. Once he

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Speaker 2: Brian McKinney. If you've seen anything or watch the Vikings

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Speaker 1: Brian. I know you've been keeping busy with various projects,

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Speaker 3: It definitely is It keeps you just you know, active

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Speaker 1: Hey, you eventually did get that Super Bowl ring Brian

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. It's been great catch

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Speaker 1: up with the school stories. Let's do it again soon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Thanks for having me, and thanks again

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Speaker 1: to Brian McKinney for joining the show tonight. It's always

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Speaker 1: great to catch up and here so this amazing stories.

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Speaker 1: All right, Pete Bursich, it's the holiday season and the

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Speaker 1: Vikings have well, you would say, a huge game this Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve at US Bank Stadium, a whiteout as they're

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Speaker 1: calling it against the resurgeon Detroit Lions. The Lions are

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Speaker 1: currently ten and four, sitting comfortably atop the NFC North.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings have had their fits against the Lions in

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Speaker 1: recent years, but this year they faced them twice in

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Speaker 1: three weeks. At the end of the regular season, the

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Speaker 1: schedule makers knew what they were doing offensively, especially at home.

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Speaker 1: They've been hot. They've been top five most offensive categories.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff is the top three in passing yards. They've

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Speaker 1: been a little different on the road though. So if

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Speaker 1: you look at Brian Floores and what they have to do,

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Speaker 1: how do you slow down this Lions offense and try

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Speaker 1: to minimize the damage done by their playmakers.

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Speaker 2: I think the main thing is is this is a

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Speaker 2: the last two weeks of what they've done. They came

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Speaker 2: out against Denver and threw the ball six times in

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Speaker 2: a row, and it was nine of the first eleven plays.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have a rhythm passing game. That's what

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Speaker 2: GoF does so well. The timing, whether it's a playfake

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Speaker 2: just the out routes. When in rhythm GoF is very

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Speaker 2: very tough to beat. He's very accurate, strong armed, very

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Speaker 2: hard to trick golf. He's very smart. You can get

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Speaker 2: to him if you could put pressure on him. Obviously

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Speaker 2: he's not as mobile as some of the quarterbacks that

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Speaker 2: we faced, but find a way to disrupt this rhythm.

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Speaker 1: Nick mullins, We've got to start to get a quarterback

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Speaker 1: for the Vikings. The Lions defense has been vulnerable at times.

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Speaker 1: The one guy that you have to keep an eye on,

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Speaker 1: of course, is Aiden Hutchinson, who's got the NonStop motor.

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Speaker 1: He puts a lot of pressure on the quarterback. The

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Speaker 1: Michigan native has been a huge shot in the arm

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Speaker 1: for this Lions defense. What do you like about the

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Speaker 1: matchup against the Lions defense and how do you to

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Speaker 1: protect yourself against Aidan Hutchinson disrupting everything.

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Speaker 2: What I was kind of amazed it was how aggressive

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Speaker 2: the Bengals, I think we're getting a very similar style

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Speaker 2: of it's carryover from what they what the offensive line

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Speaker 2: to what they're going to see against the Lions, and

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Speaker 2: you know, regardless they're they're a little thin at the

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Speaker 2: cornerback position and we might be able to work on

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Speaker 2: some of those matchups on the outside. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough and a lot of it. You

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Speaker 2: don't get frustrated as a fan when if there's a handoff,

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Speaker 2: if you just run the ball into a teeth into

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Speaker 2: the teeth of a blitz that it doesn't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: That's just you live by the blitz, you die by

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Speaker 2: the blitz. Right, he blitz on the left side and

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Speaker 2: we run the ball that way, well then boom, you

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Speaker 2: kill it. Right, But one of these times you're gonna

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Speaker 2: run it away from you know where they're coming from,

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna hit pay dirt. So hopefully ty Chandler

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Speaker 2: can have another good day out there, but overall they're solid.

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Speaker 1: Remember it's a white out game at US Bank Stadium

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Speaker 1: this Sunday at noon, so dress appropriately. You can catch

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Speaker 1: the TV broadcast over on Fox. Of course, you can

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Speaker 1: also catch Pete and Pa right here all across the

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Speaker 1: Vikings radio network, so be sure to check your local

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Speaker 1: listings for details. And thanks again to Brian McKinney for

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Speaker 1: joining the show tonight, and thank you fans for tuning

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Speaker 1: into another edition of School Stories presented by three. I'm

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Speaker 1: the official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Happy holidays,

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Speaker 1: We'll see you all again next week