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Speaker 1: On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, football is back, Baby.

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Speaker 2: We're live a training camp.

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Speaker 3: Look at the beautiful day out here.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: We got our first day report. We did well, a

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Speaker 3: lot of a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of things to talk about, techniques, defenses.

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Speaker 4: And I'm bugging out by datam bugging out about Dat five.

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Speaker 1: It's the young whipper snapper Light Tokong, talk about him

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Speaker 1: in areas that he can improve. And then we rank

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Speaker 1: our top tank quarterbacks and it's got Fred sweating. It

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Speaker 1: all starts right now. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smooth Santanamos, and we

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Speaker 1: are out at training camp.

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Speaker 2: The elements in the elephants.

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Speaker 1: We're fighting through it. Man, there's a little bugs out here,

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Speaker 1: a little warm.

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Speaker 2: No, actually, this is the coolest day we're gona get.

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Speaker 2: It's true. It is true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So but you know, like I don't really

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Speaker 1: I don't really care about it because we're at training camp.

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Speaker 3: We're get to watch practice.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talking about that today, and you know how

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Speaker 1: I didn't feel, Guys, just to be out here real quick,

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Speaker 1: like first day kind of get the juices going a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit, kind of you know what, I kind of had jeelters,

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Speaker 4: like really had training camp.

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Speaker 2: Like you know how you get anxious, like the two

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Speaker 2: days before training camp? Do you get anxious still?

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Speaker 4: I used to get anxious, and I think it wasn't

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Speaker 4: about training camp. It was about the conditioning test. I

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Speaker 4: just get anxious about the conditioning test because it was

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Speaker 4: like a hump that you got to get over just

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Speaker 4: you had a right to practice training camp.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel that same way? I always had anxiety.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know the condition about the test. You

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Speaker 5: might look at a guy like me and say, well, Tanner,

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Speaker 5: you run for days, yes, but that test is like

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Speaker 5: no other and no matter how much you train, no

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Speaker 5: matter how hard you work, even on that little break

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Speaker 5: we get before we came back, how many days I

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Speaker 5: took out of having fun and just to make sure

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Speaker 5: I'm ready for that test. I still was never ready

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Speaker 5: until I got got it all you know, put you.

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Speaker 2: Know, put behind me.

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Speaker 5: But today I was excited that football has finally Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean it's back. I think I've been watching other

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Speaker 5: teams go out here and watching you know TV and

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Speaker 5: seeing some of these other teams practices, but to finally

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Speaker 5: see our guys out here on the field.

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Speaker 2: Give me that notion. That is time and anxius yet

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Speaker 2: to see. Can they pick up where they lift out

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Speaker 2: last year?

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Speaker 4: Like we ended on such a high last year, so

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Speaker 4: to me, the standards have went to a whole other

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Speaker 4: level now, like they showed us the floor last year,

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Speaker 4: now even trying to show us the ceiling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're going to talk about that in more

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Speaker 1: detail in a second. But I got some housekeeping got

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Speaker 1: to take care of. Remember on the last show we

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Speaker 1: talked about the People's Choice Podcast nominations.

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Speaker 1: I mean I guess so right, I mean that's what

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Speaker 1: So now let's get back to the thing we all

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Speaker 1: And Ten already started kind of started us off, and

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Speaker 1: like how he felt coming out here, Fred, you said

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Speaker 1: you were a little bit nervous. Tanny you said you were, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you said before we kind of had to

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Speaker 1: to know what the new ceiling is. Yes, where do

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Speaker 4: Well, you're talking about a team that got four quarters

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Speaker 2: Like the ceiling is the super Bowl. Like this is

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Speaker 4: They feel like we got a super Bowl a head coach,

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Speaker 4: that's where the ceiling is right now. Like I think

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Speaker 2: Think about it.

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Speaker 4: You went and refortified the offensive line, You went and

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Speaker 4: with d bo seremonies. You win't got dB help with

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Speaker 4: Trey Amis Will. Like you said, we're finna go for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel or I do.

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Speaker 3: I think you're always a little bit more measured.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm you know, I'm never gonna be Fred. But

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Speaker 5: I think he make a great point. I think they

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Speaker 5: It's never a year you can say, well, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't think they're gonna be that good

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Speaker 5: you're right, we're not gonna have to wait that long

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Speaker 1: We're thinking about foundational stuff. Yeah, we're thinking about like

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Speaker 4: But I like the fact that we can see he

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Speaker 4: like having this conversation. Now it's a very serious conversation.

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Speaker 4: So they just tell you right now we're headed in

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Speaker 4: the right direction regardless of Super Bowl and not no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I think the other thing that I think we're all

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Speaker 1: think we'll start on the defensive side of the football.

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Speaker 1: And you know on Instagram, Twitter, the comments of these shows,

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Speaker 1: And I think you see an awareness by Adam Peters

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Speaker 1: that's only the start, right for this.

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Speaker 4: To start, because this first down, like what they say

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Speaker 4: We want to win it down, so we force you

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Speaker 4: to pay it. Now, we go signce situations, pay as well.

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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right. So I think you got

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Speaker 2: High level mo right.

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Speaker 4: He last year he was timed with a one second

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Speaker 1: And I will say, like, when you watch him, and

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Speaker 1: And again just watching him move around, like gosh, man,

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Speaker 4: Oh no, if he go eight sex like this the

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Speaker 2: Win, Like we need you to be efficient and we

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Speaker 4: I think von Miller does because Von is gonna receive

443
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Speaker 4: the attention. And that's why I say we don't need

444
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Speaker 4: vun to lead the team in sex for us to

445
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Speaker 4: win Super Bowl, be a winning team.

446
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Speaker 1: And you know, we were talking with Fletch today on

447
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Speaker 1: the Command Center show and one of the things that

448
00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,800
Speaker 1: stuck out to me is he was like, I'm not

449
00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:02,840
Speaker 1: worried about the secondary.

450
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm worried about the pass rush.

451
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Speaker 1: And for me it's the other way around because I

452
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Speaker 1: look at and I say, like man, durrence Armstrong had

453
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Speaker 1: like eight sacks last year seven sacks. I don't remember

454
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Speaker 1: the exact number, but like he can rush the passer.

455
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Speaker 1: You put him next to Vaughan that's gas. Then you

456
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Speaker 1: got Deron Ken lodgers On on the interior, like you're

457
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to rush the pastor what I say.

458
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Speaker 1: And then one of the things about Frankie is I

459
00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,080
Speaker 1: think he's a much better blitzer than he is an

460
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Speaker 1: edge rusher, and now he can do that at a

461
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,800
Speaker 1: high level and say good luck to any running backers

462
00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,240
Speaker 1: they got to block him. So to me, I'm like, man,

463
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Speaker 1: if that all comes together the way it sounds like

464
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Speaker 1: it will on paper, that's gonna be special. I think

465
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Speaker 1: that all starts with that von Miller signing. So kudos

466
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Speaker 1: to Adam Peters for getting that done. We're gonna talk

467
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Speaker 1: about individual players here more in a second, but one

468
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Speaker 1: thing I wanted to ask you about is Dan talked

469
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Speaker 1: a lot today about progressing guys the right way and

470
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Speaker 1: making sure that they stay healthy through training camp. And

471
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Speaker 1: so one of the things that I thought was brilliant

472
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Speaker 1: is that they started with red zone today. He was

473
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Speaker 1: why would they do that? That's like a more advanced

474
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Speaker 1: thing work situational football and it's because it shortens the field. Yes,

475
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,720
Speaker 1: like you expose yourself as a receiver to injury longer

476
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Speaker 1: when we're running long routes. And so I thought, man,

477
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Speaker 1: what a great day, What a great way to make.

478
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Speaker 2: Sure who did the study behind it? They give him

479
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Speaker 2: to do that, because that's smart.

480
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Speaker 5: That's amazing that you know what you're doing also too,

481
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Speaker 5: and I didn't mean to cut you off. You're actually

482
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Speaker 5: building me up to now have that longer, you know,

483
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Speaker 5: y'all is to cover, you know, like if you get

484
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Speaker 5: me out there and give me reps now short, my

485
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,280
Speaker 5: body is now acclimating, acclimating too the field to how

486
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Speaker 5: much I'm pounding.

487
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Speaker 2: Then the every day I can now expand.

488
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Speaker 1: That, you know what I mean, do more because you

489
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Speaker 1: still keep the same number of reps. Like I was impressed,

490
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Speaker 1: Like they did. Probably I want to say it was

491
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Speaker 1: like a twenty five minute like they broke it up.

492
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Speaker 1: It was like a seven on seven then a team

493
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Speaker 1: red zone, but it was back to back, so they're.

494
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Speaker 3: Not cutting reps.

495
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Speaker 1: But like, because the field is short, you can really

496
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Speaker 1: stick in there. The intensity is high, very high, but

497
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Speaker 1: like the distances are lower, so all those like hamstrings

498
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Speaker 1: adductor soft tissue thing. Yeah, are kind of kept in

499
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Speaker 1: the bag. And I just think, like, you know, it.

500
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Speaker 2: Keeps the fatigue down and the work stays good.

501
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the work stays sharp, fast burst, quick burst

502
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 4: back to work, quick burst back to work, not long gated,

503
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Speaker 4: because come on, think about this. If I'm checking Tanna,

504
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 4: we in cover one, Tanner run a go route. Me

505
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 4: and Tanner got to run that fifty yards, but we

506
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Speaker 4: gotta run fifty.

507
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Speaker 1: Back, running back and then line up again and go

508
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Speaker 1: to the hut and do it again, and your body's

509
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 1: just not ready.

510
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Speaker 2: So I'm ready for that.

511
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Speaker 1: I think just the way to ensure we got health.

512
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Speaker 1: And then the other thing I love about it too, guys,

513
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Speaker 1: is that it puts the quarterbacks in a tough spot

514
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 1: day one. Yeah, it's not like, hey, we're running stick,

515
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: We're running dragon double stand on the backside.

516
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Speaker 2: When does that be yeah, we got.

517
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Speaker 5: It's almost like you're basically it's funny that we look

518
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 5: at it like when you really look at it, it's like, Okay,

519
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 5: I'm gonna save everybody else's legs, but.

520
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make my quarterbacks think out the gate. Yes.

521
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Speaker 5: So now the more and more I give them, it'll

522
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Speaker 5: get it easier for him thinking because he have more

523
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 5: to read, you know what I mean. So and then

524
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Speaker 5: and being that the quarterbacks are the hardest position on

525
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 5: the field, that's a great way to go about it

526
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 5: because now you put everything to him. You give him

527
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 5: that that quiz first day of school, and say everybody else,

528
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 5: you guys, just see him watch right now.

529
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Speaker 2: You don't take in photo your that's unique. Man.

530
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Speaker 1: And I think the other thing about Jayden talking about

531
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: we haven't really talked about him a lot, but like

532
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: he just looks so sharp, like his ability to get

533
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: like it's the it's the quick Like I had a

534
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 1: guy Kyle Shanahan actually told me this one time. He

535
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, what makes Jimmy Garoppolo so good?

536
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: He's like he's got one of the quickest releases I've

537
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: ever seen. And so when you watch Jaden in the

538
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: red zone, like, man, that's a tough first day, that's

539
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: a tough sat. But that ball is out of his

540
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: hands so quick. He anticipates throws so well. It's just

541
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Speaker 1: like you see what makes him special.

542
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Speaker 4: I think what makes him specially is the person man

543
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Speaker 4: to have the best Rooky season of any quarterback of

544
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Speaker 4: all time. And he did not go on Baker Mayfield

545
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 4: in the off season. And when I say Baker Mayfield,

546
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 4: it's that you wasn't seeing them in commercials. It was

547
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 4: just like, man, I'm going back to work, I don't

548
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 4: really care about That just blows me how grounded this

549
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 4: kid is, how aware? Like the one thing we use

550
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 4: it lacking our twenties is awareness like this.

551
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Speaker 2: Well, yes, well I think too.

552
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Speaker 5: You give a lot of creditism mom because she's always there,

553
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 5: so you know, and that's one thing that we didn't have.

554
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Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong. We all had parents, that all

555
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 5: had moms. But once we left the house at eighteen college,

556
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Speaker 5: it was a rap. When I'm turning twenty one, you couldn't.

557
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Speaker 2: I couldn't.

558
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Speaker 5: I can't expect my twenty one year old kids now.

559
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Speaker 5: And I got a twenty one year old and a

560
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Speaker 5: twenty five year old. I can't expect them to take

561
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Speaker 5: on the things I did at twenty one.

562
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I was light years ahead of

563
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Speaker 2: where they built it.

564
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Speaker 5: You know, they steal my babies at twenty one and

565
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Speaker 5: twenty five, twenty one, twenty five, I was telling my

566
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Speaker 5: mom and them all, hey, go get this.

567
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 2: I got this for you, go pick it up.

568
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 5: Like I was almost calling shots, and not to say

569
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 5: for them, but for myself.

570
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. My kids ain't calling no shots.

571
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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you what it is.

572
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 5: It's crazy how these kids and just how the years

573
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 5: just changed in time with kids and how much we

574
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Speaker 5: can give them and how much we can't give them.

575
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Speaker 4: You know.

576
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Speaker 1: Well, also think you guys are good dads. So you

577
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: guys have provided really well for him. This is a

578
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: we're taking the side little parent compliment for Fred and Tanna.

579
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: You guys provide for your kids. Think about you were

580
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: providing for your family when you're in you know what

581
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, the dynamics different now for sure. So

582
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: the other guy I want to talk about that I

583
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: noticed the team was our guy Kiinlaw.

584
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Speaker 2: He he's a mountain. He's the mountain like like so.

585
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it's hard to know every down

586
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: what he's doing. He plays defensive tackle and this is

587
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Speaker 1: how he played in New York. That's how he played

588
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: in Francisco. Like when he flashes, it's like a freaking

589
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: lightning bolt.

590
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 2: It's like bully ball.

591
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Speaker 4: Yeah, when he decides I'm finna go one percent debo

592
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: on these guys and take their like he looks.

593
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: The part, and so to me, it's just like, how

594
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: can this coaching staff get him to do some of

595
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: that stuff instead of But do.

596
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Speaker 5: You think do you think with the way they played

597
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 5: the guys last year and the year before were particularly

598
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 5: last year, how they rotation, rotation, rotating these guys, you

599
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 5: will you will get the best of him every time than.

600
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Speaker 4: You will because that I think you don't get the

601
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 4: best kill erw when he low energy, when he when

602
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 4: he uh gasping for air. Like with this rotation, I

603
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: think it have them sharp, like I gotta make airplay count.

604
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Speaker 5: Yeah, because you have one of those defenses where I

605
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 5: think they just have so many bodies they have to

606
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Speaker 5: put on the field at times for key moments to

607
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 5: where you don't have to primarily just have a guy

608
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Speaker 5: out that is to be out there.

609
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Speaker 2: I mean, we played on teams where I ain't never.

610
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Speaker 5: See some of our guys come off the field on

611
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Speaker 5: defense and you know they was getting it behind, you know,

612
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 5: tossed around.

613
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We have a defense here

614
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Speaker 2: now that any given play.

615
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Speaker 5: He could be could super guy and he could go

616
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Speaker 5: out there.

617
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Speaker 2: And make a play, you know, make an impact.

618
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so just to see his power, like like

619
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Speaker 1: here's a player today he bulls the guard and like

620
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Speaker 1: it was a you know ever seen like a fast

621
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Speaker 1: ball where the guards are completely on skates? Yes, and

622
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: you're like, who is Oh, it's killer. Like if you

623
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: can get him to do that instead of two every

624
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: ten plays like every four every ten or five like

625
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Speaker 1: fifty percent, like I don't know, man, like that becomes

626
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: a really devastating piece for the You.

627
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Speaker 2: Know how I feel about interior pass rush.

628
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Speaker 3: I know you do.

629
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Speaker 4: I feel like it's the most effective disruptive thing that a.

630
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: Defense could get.

631
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Speaker 4: And even when I bless lineback because I want to

632
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 4: bless him through the A gap and I can't wait

633
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: to see your guy from UC lak Madronal Like that's

634
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 4: my that's my players crush right now of this off

635
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 4: season right now.

636
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: I just think the guy got it all.

637
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 4: And I think once he gets the rolling in this league,

638
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 4: you know how some guys get to the league unassuming,

639
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 4: but then when you see him.

640
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: Play, you're like, ah, that's a twelve year pro like

641
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: some he just got.

642
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: This feel to me of once I unlock this skill, said,

643
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 4: y'all gonna realize I can do everything.

644
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: Hey, he's gonna be up to you, coach to figure

645
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: out what I do best.

646
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's a guy that you know, you said

647
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: he's got everything. I think he's got to improve as

648
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: a tackler a little bit. But in terms of movement skills, man,

649
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: that dude he just glided.

650
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 5: How do you how do you get better at than?

651
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 5: When you a guy that he has enough football behind him.

652
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 5: We know he played receiver at one point. We know

653
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 5: he played phenomenally last year, you know, being a I

654
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 5: guess you can say linebacker, slash safety, whatever position he played. Yeah,

655
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 5: now you're in the league and you say he still

656
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 5: need a little you know, upgrade on technique and wont.

657
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: To this tackle.

658
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: But what I will say this too, like talk about

659
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Speaker 1: it like we talked about it with maybe on the

660
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Speaker 1: show on the Command Center show that's working on technical development, Like, hey,

661
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Speaker 1: Ryan Kerrigan's talking about hands on the run fits. This

662
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: is how it's like basic stuff every single day, this time,

663
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Speaker 1: over and over a tackling drow Yeah, every day.

664
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Speaker 3: So I know I played for ten years.

665
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: You guys played for long times also, like I played

666
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: for teams, but that was never even a thing, and

667
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: every single day.

668
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: They said you should already had his baseline in the minu.

669
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Speaker 1: And so for me, I look at the way dan

670
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: Quinn has structured practice, the way the coaches emphasized things,

671
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get looks every day to improve your tackling.

672
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: So let's make that happen. And I think, like, talk

673
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: about just the perfect environment for a guy who's got

674
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Speaker 1: every kind of athletic ability. You want every as get

675
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: your tackling better. Like that's something we focus on and

676
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: we prioritize.

677
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 4: I know this is this is a big name I'm

678
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 4: finna throw out there, but every time, because I found

679
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: myself the other day. I just looked at some k

680
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 4: Madrono highlights I just did, and I was like, man,

681
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 4: this dude picks balls off and running back like Derek Brooks.

682
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 4: You know how Derek Brooke played in space in that

683
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 4: Tempa two. It ain't nothing you could do in front

684
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 4: of Brooks that he ain't have an answer for this dude.

685
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: I've seen him.

686
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: He's got the ball skills too.

687
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: I seen this guy. They did a play action. He

688
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: runs into the defensive line, bags out, picks the ball off,

689
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 4: runs it back hops ober.

690
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 3: Dude before he gets to the Nebraska Nebraska.

691
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Speaker 2: I like, you know what this athletic?

692
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so he's he's one of a bunch of

693
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: other rookies. You know, we're watching kind of while we're

694
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: filming the shows. Any other rookies do you guys like.

695
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: Trey Games making some noise out there. I like loud rookies.

696
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: I like long coners. I just think I think he's

697
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: always no I think he, you know how some guy

698
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 2: like he fits. He's a pro.

699
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: I think he feels like he's an instant pro. He's

700
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: like instant grits. Put it in the micro wave. Give

701
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: me them grits.

702
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: You know, laying gonna always stick out to me, not

703
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: to didn't it and not all? And I think he did.

704
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 5: I didn't see the touchdown, but I just saw him

705
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 5: at one play he had where Ignagi had great coverage

706
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 5: on him.

707
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: And people take that for granted. When you're on a team,

708
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: when your secondary is good like our secondary, you have

709
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: no choice but to get.

710
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 5: Better at that position at at the receive a position,

711
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 5: and you know as a whole, so to have a

712
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 5: young guy with with with his caliber, his skill set,

713
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be shoppering this whole training camp

714
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 5: to be one of those guys when you see him

715
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 5: getting the game this preseason, Yeah, be well, those guys

716
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 5: on the other side of him, they're gonna get a

717
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 5: they gonna get something, Tody, they're not gonna expect because

718
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: our secondary is so good over here that he's gonna

719
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 5: be ready like a regular season game by the time

720
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Speaker 5: he plays in the preseason.

721
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Speaker 1: I think that's a great point Tender. And I think,

722
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, like the same thing with Cain Lane Connorley,

723
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: to a certain extent, all these guys are a little

724
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: bit developmental, you know, and so I think that's one

725
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: of the things about training camp he talked about, like

726
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: how we felt about training camp. I'm excited to see

727
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: where those guys are today and if by the end

728
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: they're who we think they can, if they've got like

729
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: a roll carved out for them.

730
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Speaker 2: I'm never worried about who you are when training camp starts.

731
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm never I'm not high on that. I want to

732
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: see you get just.

733
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Speaker 4: That much better every day. And if I could see that,

734
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: like you know, some rooks they just they gonna come ready.

735
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: Some guys, I'm fresh at the box. I'm ready to play.

736
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: Put me in coach.

737
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: Some guy need to get the field of high fast

738
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 4: his game. He is before they like really unlocked their

739
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 4: skill set.

740
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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, I mean I think, and that's something I

741
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: can't wait to see. And again, like even with like

742
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: Connorley Man, the way he moves is special, but he's

743
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: still got a lot a lot of technical stuff to

744
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: work on. And again, like not not to say he's

745
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: playing bad or anything like that, it's just to be

746
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: looks like to be a stud. Like he's got to

747
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: be a stud. And so that's gonna be cool to

748
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: see where those guys go. The other couple of big names,

749
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of debo, just because we're

750
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: kind of doing two things at once smash on the

751
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: same thing. The one guy that did stick out to

752
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: me was laring me Tunsel. Yeah, just like how easy

753
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: it is for him.

754
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 5: To He's amendment there too, so it's not hard for him,

755
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 5: you know, to stake out.

756
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: His footwork and the way he kind of just is

757
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: in good relationship to the rusher all the time. Always

758
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: like he had a rep against Franken and I think

759
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: Frank's pretty good pass rusher.

760
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was like kind of like he was

761
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: sleeping through the rep. You know what I'm saying.

762
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: He reminds me of Champ Bailey when I got and

763
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: me and Champ would be in the hood and that

764
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: I just one day, I just kept looking at him.

765
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, this dude is never age. I never scratched out.

766
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: He's lar because I played with Laram and Houston and

767
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: that's just how he is. Like no one, No, I've

768
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: never seen a rusher like freaking out.

769
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: Like round at him like ever.

770
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: And they cool come they called it quiet, confident, like

771
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 4: I'm fine, I'm good in my skin. I understand how

772
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 4: you trying to take me, and I'm just gonna let

773
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: you come get it like them game change in athletes

774
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Speaker 4: right there.

775
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

776
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, so really excited about him, Really excited about that

777
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: offensive line seat that group comes together. You know, only

778
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: one day of practically being able to watch so far.

779
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: So as we watch more, we'll give you updates and

780
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: things like that. But really excited. And I think now

781
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: we can transition to kind of more Jade Daniels centric

782
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: talk j D fact because he's been in the news

783
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: quite a bit for good things, for good things, for

784
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: good things. And it's him and another guy in the division,

785
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: and they're getting a lot of comparison to each other.

786
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: And so we're gonna play a game of hell yeah

787
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: or hell that was good, dude, that was really good.

788
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: You guys are like locked in on that.

789
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: And so basically Jane Daniels versus Jalen Hurts.

790
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: And so the first thing we're gonna start off with

791
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: is Jalen Daniels is the fifth fifth best quarterback in

792
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Nick Shook from nfl dot Com said he's

793
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: the fifth best quarterback in the NFL. Just to give

794
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: you some context on that.

795
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: That's like Joe.

796
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and Eddie where

797
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: you want.

798
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: And right there. And so like those first four dudes

799
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: are like generationally good.

800
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: Hold up, I have to ask you this. Yeah, where

801
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: was Pat Mahomes in this?

802
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: I think it was two?

803
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: I agree twenty twenty four.

804
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: Okay, So Jason's good, Lamar's one, two is Allen, three

805
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: is Borrough and golf.

806
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I don't like this.

807
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: They have pet in the.

808
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: Mahomes is after Baker Mayfield.

809
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, alright, I pet did hal here him? For anybody else?

810
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: That'll be an up year. You see what I'm saying.

811
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: But in no world, in no world that I live on,

812
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: I don't care if it's Mars. Do you say Jered

813
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: Golf over Pat Mahon?

814
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: But Jared Goff had to good your list year, had

815
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: a good year, but ran into us.

816
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I look at it like this, we just

817
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 5: asked him question about did this hell yeo?

818
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: Hell no? Right yeah by Jaden Ben in twenty four?

819
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 5: I say hell yeah, because arguably without him getting hurt

820
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: last year, he probably would have been in the runners

821
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 5: for MVP.

822
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: So I say yes, hell yeah, ude, yeah, yeah.

823
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: I know it sounds crazy like we're homers, but I

824
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: think empirically, you look at the stats.

825
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: You look at what he did for the team. You

826
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: look how he carried the team.

827
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: You look at the plays that he made, The fourth

828
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: down percentages, the third down percentage unbelievable.

829
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Speaker 3: With big time. We don't win a lot of them

830
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: games without him, Like he was an absolute maniac.

831
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 4: He was a catalyst to winning. What do y'all need

832
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: me to do today? Rush four hundred, I got you

833
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: what you need me to do? Pinpoint pass for three hundred.

834
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: I got you? What about fourth down? Were the best

835
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: in the league? Because I got you?

836
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: So yes, this is what I'm more like. I don't

837
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: think his passing shocked me. I don't think his running

838
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: shocked me. The ice water in his kid's veins too,

839
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: like he never got overwhelmed.

840
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: Logan ever to me, and this kind of piggybacks off

841
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: your point. It's like the consistent decision making games on

842
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: the line. I make the right decision third down, I

843
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: make the right decision. Fourth down, I make a play

844
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: and make it happen.

845
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 5: Like do you know how many veteran quarterbacks I played

846
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 5: with that I walked into that huddle and knew we

847
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 5: finna get.

848
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: Off the field.

849
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 5: You didn't trust him on that down, Like I could

850
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 5: just sit in his eyes that he don't know, Yeah,

851
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: you know how to get out of this. And from

852
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 5: where we was watching it at, Logan was on the

853
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 5: field all the time all last year, so he was

854
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 5: a little closer. But from where I was at, he

855
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 5: just saw a guy from how he looked in first quarter,

856
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 5: he looked in the last quarter.

857
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

858
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 5: It never it never never round. It looked like the

859
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 5: play was too big, you know what I mean. It's

860
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 5: just this guy went even when he got nick and

861
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 5: we knew he was nick, I'm like, ah, something in right,

862
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 5: he got up and like kept playing and let's go,

863
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, still was trying to make plays.

864
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: So even in the playoffs, in the NFC Championship game,

865
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: he ain't the reason we lost him. Like this dude

866
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: had ice water in the NFC Championship game. Do you

867
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: know what the Dallas Cowboys that do. If d Prescott

868
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: had a litter in ice water, ain't come about the

869
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: dough think about it. He had.

870
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: He was so good in the playoffs and even though,

871
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 5: like I said, we lost that game, but we dropped

872
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 5: from the ball to me, he was so good and

873
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 5: we give Jaydon this ball back he gon game for

874
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 5: the be We was down by only eleven and that yeah,

875
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 5: we was on the road.

876
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: Right now and jam put that ball into the paint.

877
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: So this is an interesting question because we're talking about

878
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks from last year. If you had to rank him

879
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: one to ten, yeah, I think we could all do

880
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: it together. It doesn't have to be individually, Like how

881
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: would we do it like, who's number one. I think

882
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: number one for me is probably Lamar.

883
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 5: Last year, to me it was a toss up, you know,

884
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 5: being biased, I would say Lamar, but you can't deny

885
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 5: what Burrow did it?

886
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 3: Burrow did? I think Josh Josh Allen.

887
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 5: I watched Josh Allen to and I don't take nothing

888
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: from Josh. He's easy top three because if you say Lamar,

889
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 5: Burrow and Josh Allen, any one of those guys could

890
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 5: be in that special first second or third they change games.

891
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: So I'm just just for ease of lists, I'm just

892
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: gonna go Lamar, Lamar one, Burrow Burrow.

893
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 5: We go with that, Josh, I mean, Josh, Josh want,

894
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 5: and then we'll give it.

895
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 4: I say Josh because Josh proved to be the ultimate

896
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: force mote to play last year compared to his wide receivers.

897
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: That's a great point.

898
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: Game.

899
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: And then Burrow it's three three, So I mean that

900
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: feels obvious because those.

901
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: Guys are really good at I got Pat mahomes it for.

902
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: Even after last year.

903
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, his dad year is a great year for

904
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 4: every quarters fill win them game without Pat mahoons.

905
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: Do you know how many games they wanted last year exactly.

906
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: And I think this is the thing that I find interesting,

907
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: is I really want to put Jay Danis a five,

908
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: like I want to hate on.

909
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 3: This list, but like he feels to me like last year,

910
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: last year. I know it's his rookie year, but I

911
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: don't know if I put anybody ahead of him.

912
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: I look at it like this, who is the person

913
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: that you say, who made who? Who? Who put their

914
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: team in the position to be where they was at?

915
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: It would be Jeredoff justin Herbert would be when I

916
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: talk about maybe Hurts, yeah, and I don't, And I'm

917
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: low Ron Hurts those people.

918
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 2: I think he's a more dangerous weapon than those guys.

919
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: So I do believe that.

920
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 3: I do believe that Hurts.

921
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 5: I do believe Hurts should get a little credit because

922
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 5: of where their team win as a whole. But then

923
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 5: that's when I go back to what was being said

924
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 5: by him. If you put somebody the else there, do

925
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 5: that team still be really what it was?

926
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: And I do believe that, don't you imagine?

927
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: Like Kirk Cousinshia, I always say, what's magical about that guy?

928
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: When I see Jalen Hurts was magical by him?

929
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: Is he's a quarterback the squad six hundred and he

930
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: got Ice warden Icewarden and he's a great leader, but

931
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 4: he has to play this unstoppable. It might be a

932
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 4: touch pushing, whatever you want to call it, but it's unstoppable.

933
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: So everybody can't do it. We watched Josh Hallen try

934
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: all the time.

935
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: They're the closing to us to get the job.

936
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: Done well with Josh doing it.

937
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 5: But I would say, Jad, I'm gonna get JD five because,

938
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 5: like I said before, I can easily have him as

939
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 5: a you know, an MVP guy if he don't get

940
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 5: hurt last year. But the things that he did for us,

941
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 5: and even with him being hurt last year, the way

942
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 5: he would us into those victories Old six games where

943
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 5: we had to come back and last minute and win

944
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 5: those games, even when he went head to head and

945
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: and your boy got hurt in that Philly game and

946
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 5: we end up finding a way to come back like

947
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 5: that alone, to me showed me like this kid is

948
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 5: special because I care less about who you have outside

949
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 5: of you. We talked about this a lot last year

950
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 5: and even started this season off talking about it.

951
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: Without Terry mcclaurin, who else we had that receiver.

952
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and it gets to a point where

953
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 5: you say, like we I'll say, when you have that

954
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 5: it guy a pay many everybody, Tom Brady, Drew Brees.

955
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 5: You don't need those many, you don't need special receivers.

956
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 5: You just need to get open. And that's what Jay

957
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 5: and Daniel shows you. I can play with anybody on

958
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 5: the outside because I'm gonna put the ball in a

959
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 5: place where only they can get the ball.

960
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

961
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: So Je Daniels five five, and so if you had

962
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: to go six.

963
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: Hurts really hurts with Herbert, I go Hurts, and I'm

964
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: gonna go Hurst.

965
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Jared Golf my business.

966
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 2: I go Hurt. I go Hurst because I say Hurst

967
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: won it all he can. We can already be saying

968
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: we can arguely saying that he.

969
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 5: Was in the top five at quarterbacks because he want

970
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 5: it all. But I I just like all those guys

971
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 5: play better than him, stick handedly by himself. They willed

972
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 5: their team Submitty more than he did last year. You know,

973
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 5: he didn't have to, and they had a phenomenal team.

974
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: And then I go Golf, Then I go Herbert.

975
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I feel like coach Harpwall asked Herbert to

976
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 4: do a little bit.

977
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 2: I don't even go Herbert, I go your boy from Tampa.

978
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 5: You go Baker, Baker Mayfield. I like that, Baker Mayfield

979
00:39:59,280 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 5: in front of Herbert.

980
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: That's a nice pick. That's a nice pull by you

981
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: right there.

982
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: I love that. Okay.

983
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: And the other thing. Okay, so we were at I

984
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: got said again, Hurts, that's six.

985
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 5: Yep, Baking may Golf, then Baking Mayfield.

986
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: I like that, Tanne, and then Jason Herbert. I think

987
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: that's good for me. And then who's number ten?

988
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: Number ten, number ten? And then that nobody liked to

989
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: really get two of those props. Stafford. Oh no, we

990
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: might have to read, we might have to redo. Nah,

991
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: but Stafford going to I think Stafford right there.

992
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 5: Stafford, with his ability alone, yes, could be easy to

993
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 5: be anywhere from five to ten. But with those other

994
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 5: guys playing as good as they play, they deserve it.

995
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 5: I think we have to just put Stafford at ten, just.

996
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: Say Stafford is to do, just to say that we

997
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 2: can't leave him out. This is a dude we left out. Yeah,

998
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: we can't leave him out.

999
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. The other thing that I think is a

1000
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: lot of fun. So obviously we had JD five above Hurts,

1001
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: so we think he's better.

1002
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of Philly fans don't like that.

1003
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: And I think Cam Newton got a lot of hate.

1004
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: We don't we hate.

1005
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: First of all, we don't care about them bleach your

1006
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 4: creatures up there in Philip Death You all right, listen.

1007
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 4: They hate on Santa claud they hate the Easter Bunny.

1008
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 4: Why you worried about him hating us?

1009
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1010
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: And so producer Jason just asked me a question. Okay,

1011
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: imagine your Philly ap calls you and offers you JD

1012
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: for Hurts straight up.

1013
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: I don't want it.

1014
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: First of all, fast, How fast would Philly do that.

1015
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: Hurts would be here?

1016
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 4: Uh?

1017
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: Literally in fifteen minutes? Right?

1018
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: That Roseman be like, Nah, this gotta be a print

1019
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 4: call like this gotta be so you're gonna bring me

1020
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 4: a guy that runs just as well but throws better.

1021
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what that Philly outfense would look like?

1022
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1023
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 5: I think I think also to the only thing the

1024
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 5: only thing that that that hurt Hurts arguments a lot

1025
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 5: is how long he holds onto the ball. Yeah, and

1026
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 5: we know without that phenomenal offenser line and knows you guys.

1027
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 5: You know that's like a recipe for disaster for any quarterback.

1028
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 5: You know, that's one of the things we talk about.

1029
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 5: Where to come to your boy?

1030
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: Uh?

1031
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: Who just went to who just went to the Giants?

1032
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: Wilson uh Russell, you know what I mean? Like like him? Man?

1033
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: You got Winston James? Yeah, hold James like you know.

1034
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 5: When when you hold onto that ball too long, you're

1035
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 5: not giving yourself a chance to really affect the defense

1036
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 5: at their most vulnerable state. You got to get rid

1037
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 5: of football. Don't give I care less if they got

1038
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 5: everything else covered. But if you get the ball out

1039
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 5: of your hands, it's one guy open, and it might

1040
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 5: be the check down, might be the tight end, it's

1041
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 5: somebody open.

1042
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: But you give yourself a chance offensively player.

1043
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 4: The nightmare that just happened in my head was our

1044
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 4: po with Jedi five in Saint Quon Barie and you're.

1045
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: Throwing and it's an r pos so I could.

1046
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: Or listen to me. To me, that's demos dangerous I

1047
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: have ever heard in my life. I mean, barbecue chickens.

1048
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do you? Isn't that that you can do?

1049
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: So to me, like I understand why Philly fans got

1050
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 1: their guys back. And Tanna was talking about this before

1051
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: the show started that they because of Hurts, his leadership,

1052
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: because of his composure, because of his and again, yeah,

1053
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: I think that was the thing. And we're not hating

1054
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: on Hurts, but like, it's so hard to explain this

1055
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: to someone who doesn't watch a lot of film objectively.

1056
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't play the quarter position quarterback position in a

1057
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: conventional way. He holds onto the ball for a really

1058
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: long time, right, doesn't anticipate throw as well.

1059
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: And he got two guys on a side that could

1060
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: beat one on one coverage.

1061
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: And you have to play them in man coverage because

1062
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: to stop the run, and he can win that matchup.

1063
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: And I think, like, and the defenses, what the defense

1064
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: last year was the best defense since the Baltimore Ravens

1065
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: probably in two thousand. Like so to say, like I

1066
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: almost like I meant I made this as a joke early,

1067
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: But think about it. If you put healthy Kirk Cousins

1068
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: on that roster.

1069
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: They wins. Anything changed, they win, change they win, right,

1070
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: they win.

1071
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 5: And that's the only reason why I can say that

1072
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 5: when we hear guys like Cam speak out about it,

1073
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 5: although I didn't. I didn't like his take on it,

1074
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 5: but I understood. I understand where he's coming from.

1075
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: I do believe. I believe in Hurts. I like him,

1076
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: I don't.

1077
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 5: I don't take nothing from him because he has a dynamic,

1078
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 5: you know, or damn avengers around him when it comes

1079
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 5: to skill skill skill guys and then office a line,

1080
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 5: you know.

1081
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: But I will say, if I had to compare.

1082
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 5: Him amongst the other guys that was slotting in front

1083
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 5: of him, he doesn't pair up. He doesn't match up

1084
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 5: with what they do better than him. Yeah, And that's

1085
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 5: what kind of I think Cam was trying to.

1086
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 4: You know, this is why we always gave the goat

1087
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 4: Tom Brady more loved than we gave Peyton Manning because

1088
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 4: Peyton had Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark, and Andrew James,

1089
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 4: and Tom.

1090
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: Brady would come out there with Dion Branch and the field.

1091
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 5: But I will say this too though, with Tom Brady,

1092
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 5: the first couple of Super Bowls was defense and field

1093
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 5: goal kicks, you know what I mean, and running the ball.

1094
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 5: But that's how you got to win games. It don't

1095
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 5: matter however you do. It's a team sport. So that's

1096
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 5: why I say, like, that's like us having an argument

1097
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 5: with Lebron James and when he went back to Cleveland.

1098
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 5: You see these guys when they try to move the

1099
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 5: gold post with him in the goat discussion, Oh well

1100
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 5: that's a Kyrie championship one.

1101
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: Kyrie made that shot. Who cares. That's like me getting

1102
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl and having no yards, but I

1103
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: bought all saves. I got you there.

1104
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 5: So that's you can't you can't take nothing away from

1105
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 5: guys because of what they have or don't have, as

1106
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: long as they got the job done.

1107
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. So that's how I feel

1108
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: about Hurts.

1109
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 5: He got the job done, so I ain't taking nothing

1110
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 5: away from him, But comparing amongst these other guys, they

1111
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: have super powers that he don't have.

1112
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: And I think this is gonna sound like I'm heading

1113
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: on Hurts. And I like Hurts.

1114
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: I like the leadership, I like the physicality, I like

1115
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: the competitor. Right, as a quarterback, I think he has

1116
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: some issues. Right, there is no way with Dan Moore

1117
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: as your offensive coordinator, right, that's his name, Dan Moore,

1118
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: the guy. Huh, Kellen Moore, the tackles Dan Moore Kellen Moore, right,

1119
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: and you have a J Brown Stevante Smith that you

1120
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: should have games where you're throwing for under one hundred

1121
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: and fifty yards.

1122
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 4: Dada was goddard, don't forget him. Yeah, you got one

1123
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 4: of the better receiving running backs. Like Saquon is a

1124
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 4: weapon as we're seen, and.

1125
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: I know that's not how they're built necessarily, but like

1126
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: you should never go like there was. There are points

1127
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: in the season every year with Philadelphia where they're throwing

1128
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty yards, their defense gets two

1129
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: turnovers and Saquon Barkley.

1130
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: Last year rushed for und yards And so who's who's.

1131
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: The weakest link in that equation? And again, I love

1132
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: the leadership, love how he inspires his teammates like that.

1133
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: The coldest thing about the Super Bowl last year to

1134
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: me was when he's walking into the tunnel and it's

1135
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Kansas City, Kansas City, Philly and he and

1136
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: then they go do what they did. Yeah, like he

1137
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: he plays well in big moments.

1138
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: But I just that's him, you know what I mean.

1139
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 3: But it's hard for me to look at that and say.

1140
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 5: That's why I say you can't be you can't be

1141
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 5: you can't be sad or or or you can't be

1142
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 5: upset when you hear people don't give him the credit.

1143
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: Give him his credit like far As in Top five.

1144
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 5: But when you're a super Bowl winning guy and you

1145
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 5: you've been there twice and you outplayed the guy who

1146
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 5: won it once and who you beat the next time

1147
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 5: both times, you gotta give him some kind of credit.

1148
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 5: Thats why I say he deserves something. Yeah, but listen,

1149
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 5: this is how we know his passing was not all there.

1150
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 4: When your guy pulls out a book on the sideline,

1151
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 4: that means like something's going on.

1152
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 5: They did say that he'd been doing it all year long.

1153
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 5: They did say he was going and that was from

1154
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 5: the receivers. That was that that was around him. They

1155
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: say he been reading the whole year man. Yeah, but

1156
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 5: we know it was an underline. That just shows you

1157
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 5: that something going on with aj Brown meant psychologically like

1158
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 5: he he got a little something he needed to check

1159
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 5: because he he got to calm himself down with a

1160
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 5: book in the middle of a game.

1161
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: He gotta lift to oism, he gotta letter I like

1162
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: I like him too, boy, because he'll pit bull yeah,

1163
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 2: you play.

1164
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: And so just again to kind of end this comparison

1165
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: and like kind of hype, Jane Dane is up a

1166
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, So you got a guy played twenty games,

1167
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: sixty eight point four completion percentage, right, Hurts was ninety

1168
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: sixty sixty nine. But then he threw for forty three

1169
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: hundred yards, right, thirty touchdown passes, ten interceptions. That's diabolic,

1170
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: And then you're like, oh, that's pretty good. But he

1171
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: also rushed for a thousand yards, yes, seven.

1172
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: Rushington you know one thing you didn't say about it.

1173
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 2: He's a rookie. Yeah, and he clutch you know, I

1174
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: can't clutch wheels.

1175
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: And if you want to compare that to Hurts, Hurts

1176
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: only had thirty six hundred yards passing twenty three touchdowns.

1177
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: He only rushed for one hundred, eight hundred and twenty

1178
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: four eight hundred and twenty four yards. Like the numbers

1179
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: when you look at them on paper, are MVP caliber numbers.

1180
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And so I think the.

1181
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: Question that I come back to is like he was

1182
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: so good last year, like he was like can he

1183
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: improve on that? Kitty cracked the top five?

1184
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 4: I think he can improve because as legit as a

1185
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 4: passer as he is.

1186
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: I think he would say I left some yards on

1187
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: the field.

1188
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: So I think now that everything's finna really slow down

1189
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 4: for him, and that silent confidence wonders that he wouldn't

1190
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 4: throw in last year, he gonna throw in those.

1191
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 2: Wonders right now.

1192
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 5: And not only that, just with the protection thing, you know,

1193
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 5: being upgraded, now that's key. Now you're getting more guys

1194
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 5: out in the passing routes, and now he can take

1195
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 5: advantage of of I guess you could say a deeper

1196
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 5: arsenal a matchup.

1197
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: And also knowing this, they only gonna play me in zone.

1198
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: He found, Like I think as the year went on

1199
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 4: last year, he started to realize, everybody plays me the same.

1200
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm you know what?

1201
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 5: You know what I'm asking right now going into the season,

1202
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 5: how much we make them do something that they don't

1203
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 5: want to do defensively with his abilities, Like what what.

1204
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 4: Are we planning to do to say I want you,

1205
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 4: I dare you to do this? You see what I'm saying,

1206
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 4: He handicaps courtinated nobody.

1207
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, I want to know how we're gonna

1208
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: use our that that that gift, that we have with

1209
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 5: our quarterback, now that we dictate, Now that we like

1210
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 5: we all talking about being dictators, you know what I mean,

1211
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 5: and not allowing the team to dictate what we have

1212
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 5: to do. Do we come off the bat say ideare

1213
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 5: you to get out there and just sit back?

1214
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: Think they would rp O come.

1215
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy though, is like Tanny, you said this,

1216
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: like there were times last year where like just as

1217
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: an example, like Arizona played drop eight right next team

1218
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: brings all out and he just was like, oh cool,

1219
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: Like look at Detroit. Detroit is a great example, Like

1220
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: they pressured him higher.

1221
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: Than any rate.

1222
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: They had twelve people hurt on you.

1223
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: But I'm saying like he was like, oh, you're gonna

1224
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: pressure me. I know the answer.

1225
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna play drop eight. I'm gonna be patient.

1226
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bits like I came. I left the year

1227
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: being like the only way to defend this guy is

1228
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: to win with four rushers it and play some type

1229
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: of tight man coverage or match coverage on.

1230
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 2: Them, saying you have to rush for you to play,

1231
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: you had to play true match.

1232
00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: Like the way Philly does.

1233
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: Yes, and and then you then the other thing is

1234
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: like he played teams with match coverages and birth then.

1235
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: But like when you've got the horses that Philly has,

1236
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: like that's a little challenging.

1237
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't. I didn't see anything last year

1238
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 3: that gave him.

1239
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 5: And and Philly didn't give him a fix because we

1240
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 5: was right there if we want he was. So it's

1241
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 5: just like, oh, man, like you know, and.

1242
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: I guess it's interesting.

1243
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to ask you guys is

1244
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: how does his improvement? How does that start in training camp?

1245
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: I think that's what do you want to see from him?

1246
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1247
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's a great question because we was asking

1248
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 5: that question earlier. And like I said before, I'm not

1249
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 5: big on man. Wow me, I feel like I've been

1250
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 5: wild already. I want to see, now how much can

1251
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 5: he add on to what he's already done?

1252
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: Just progressions, you know.

1253
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 5: What I mean, Like like little progressions by we already

1254
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 5: talked about him. He's a leader now, like he's now

1255
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 5: people looking up. It's not it's no longer our young

1256
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 5: young Whooper snapper quarterback in the committee?

1257
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: What something? I mean?

1258
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like he's that guy and

1259
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 5: not only that when the playbook opens up a little

1260
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 5: bit more where where Cliffs said, I'm finish, go on

1261
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 5: my bag a little more. How much more better he is?

1262
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 5: How much that how much better that's gonna make him?

1263
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 5: Being that now I have a little more that I

1264
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 5: can work with setting and being confined to these certain

1265
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 5: places because we don't have to, we don't have the

1266
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 5: skill set up. I think the people that's finna benefit

1267
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 5: from his maturation is the number three and number four

1268
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 5: receiver because we had to keep them in and chip

1269
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 5: a little bit tight end chip back Chip. I think

1270
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 5: now because he's gonna be able to open up the playbook, Kim,

1271
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 5: I mean Kingsbury, the third and the fourth receiver, I'm

1272
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 5: gonna start to really get off in this offense like

1273
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 5: they're start.

1274
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 4: They're gonna start to be game breakers because with JD.

1275
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: Five as your quarterback, my third receiving fourth receiver gonna

1276
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 4: be better than your third and fourth cornerback, and I'm

1277
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: gonna be able to whoop him like a drug.

1278
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: I think.

1279
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: The other exciting thing for me is that I think

1280
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and the rest of this offensive staff know

1281
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: how to get it done. You know what, I'm saying,

1282
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: like they're gonna find a way to say, hey, we

1283
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: were really good in quick game, really good at RPO,

1284
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: really good at zone read. Let's kind of worked that

1285
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: five step drop now, so three and a hitch from

1286
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: the gun, Like, let's attack the middle of the field more.

1287
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: We got Larry me here, we can fifteen rat rook

1288
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: And so I think that's the thing. I'm excited to

1289
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: see him kind of take that next step on And

1290
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad that there's a steward here in Cliff Kingsbury

1291
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: who's gonna help him get that done. And I think

1292
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: he really understands Jaden's strengths and weaknesses and it is

1293
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: gonna facilitate that at a really high level. So all

1294
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: that starts down in training camp. And again it's cool

1295
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: to kind of watch it and kind of see the

1296
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: wrinkles that they're adding and see the little things that

1297
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: are going on. Curious to see what actually sticks for

1298
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, but yeah, man, training camp, it's an

1299
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: exciting time.

1300
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Speaker 2: Oh football is back.

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Speaker 1: Football is back, And that's gonna do it for today's show.

1302
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1303
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: get your podcasts, and vote and buy your tickets here.

1304
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right there, that's it.