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Speaker 1: Shuck it all. In college basketball, it's not the size

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Speaker 1: What's up, Degenerate Nation? Welcome Big Bets on Campus Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is the Conference Tournament Betting Preview, Part four, and

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Speaker 1: today I'm joined by one of the members of the

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Speaker 1: three man week Kai McEwing. We'll have many other episodes

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Speaker 1: coming up. Still in a record an episode Jim and Matt,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll have our crew tomorrow doing more so,

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Speaker 1: lots of content that come got what's going on?

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Speaker 2: How much zucky? How are you excited to talk? Tons

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Speaker 2: of conference tournaments?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's a beautiful, beautiful week a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a lull Monday Tuesday, but we'll have some tickets punched.

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Speaker 1: But then, man, this weekend coming up is just going

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Speaker 1: to be glorious. Before we get into today. On this episode,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna cover the Big twelve, the Pac twelve, the Whack,

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Speaker 1: and the Big West. So give me a little West

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Speaker 1: get into those, one takeaway from the.

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Speaker 2: Weekend, I got too number one. I'm betting on Longwood

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Speaker 2: in the first round whoever they're playing as the fifteen seed,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just happy Murray State locked up the OBC

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Speaker 2: there with more heads. So happy for Murray, happy for Longwood.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait to better than Lancers.

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Speaker 1: My big takeaway from the weekend, Yeah, I'm not fading

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Speaker 1: long one. They own me in the most crude cruel ways.

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Speaker 1: My big takeaway from the weekend though, right here Memphis

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Speaker 1: Memphis State punching their ticket. I think to the dance

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, especially if they wear those Memphis State uniforms.

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Speaker 2: They go to a different level when those are on.

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Speaker 1: Those are sweet. Yeah. I mean I think that they're

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Speaker 1: Let's get things started with the Big Twelve Tournament. This

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Speaker 1: will take place in the T Mobile Center in Kansas City, Missouri,

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Speaker 1: Wednesday to Saturday. The nine teams in this tournament because

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Speaker 1: Four of the past seven champs have been a three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think Texas Tech handles I always

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing to keep in mind is, and I

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Mccollor, do you think that he just set

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Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, all right, let's move on to the PAC

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Speaker 2: Now, if you compare their value to Colorado, Colorado is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm hoping to get Wazoo Ucla and

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Speaker 2: They're still pretty young team outside of Flowers, right they're transferred.

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Speaker 1: This will be played in the Dollar Loans Center in Henderson, Nevada,

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Speaker 1: between March eighth and twelfth. Ten teams. There are six buys.

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Speaker 2: And also you see San Diego's games don't even count

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Speaker 1: Very very stupid, absolutely ad like you can play all season,

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Speaker 1: and I've been all year. Sandy is back for U

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Speaker 1: History in this conference, twenty eleven five seed UCSB won it,

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Speaker 2: And the last time neither of these teams made the

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Speaker 2: I saw Fullerton at ten to one at a book

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00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: this morning. It was shocked. Their priced is the fifth

431
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 2: or sixth shortest odds in the conference. Has made no

432
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 2: sense to me as a two seed, So I was

433
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 2: kind of intrigued by that.

434
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: But I think when you're in the bottom half where

435
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: you avoid early half Santa Barbara and the beach. Yeah,

436
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: and you know you have Hi who's banged up. You

437
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: know you mentioned riversid is playing better, yep, but they

438
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: don't have more men in your first run game against

439
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: Davis or so, I mean that path to the final

440
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: is pretty damn favorable.

441
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think Irvin or Standa Barber is gonna

442
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 2: win this, but forge to do my next choice just

443
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: based on that path, based on them playing fantastic throughout

444
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: the entire year. Maybe it's fell off a little bit lately,

445
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 2: but they had a great season and they're wall coach too.

446
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: Any any long shots worth considering other like you know that,

447
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: other than the top seeds that are playing in the

448
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: first round, is there any team that could make a

449
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: surprise run.

450
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 2: You know, it's a weird team as you see Davis.

451
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 2: They have to win four games in four days, but

452
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: they're just five and six in the conference because of COVID,

453
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: A lot of games canceled and they played ut San Diegos.

454
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: They're wins are low, but they're dangerous. They we saw

455
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: them beat Utah State on the road at the beginning

456
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: of the year. We saw them lose to Academy of

457
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: Arts too, So they're a very big variance team. But

458
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: that's a squad I think that can make a run.

459
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: They have a couple of star players in there that

460
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: are good in a tournament setting.

461
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: Do you have any preference in the matchup between UCI

462
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: and UCSB, Like I mentioned, I mean, these these two

463
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: teams are trending up for different reasons. Like UCSB was

464
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: running bad, they were getting unlucky, but they also had

465
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: an injury to Sandy, who was extremely important. He has

466
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: come back. I think he's been back for three or

467
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: so games after suffering an ankle injury in the game

468
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,479
Speaker 1: at Hawaii that pretty much cost him the game. And

469
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: then Irvine, it was you know, the defense wasn't your

470
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: vintage Russell Turner defense, who's always like number one, number

471
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: two and two point defense like every year. Just offended

472
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: incredibly around the rim. But they really started to figure

473
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 1: it out towards the end of the year, even though

474
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: they did lose at Polly and they lost that at Fullerton,

475
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: but their defense started to look a little better and

476
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: they ended up with third in the country in effective

477
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: field goal percentage defense. Is the UCI defense back? I

478
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: don't know if it's what we've seen in recent years,

479
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: but it's definitely better than it was earlier in the season.

480
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: But do you have a preference between those two teams?

481
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: They met I believe once, yeah, at one point game. Yeah,

482
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: one point game in Santa Barbara, But Sandy didn't play

483
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: in that game, and you see Santa Barbara shot three

484
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: of twenty from three. For what it's worth, you see

485
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: Irvines three point defense number one in the nation twenty

486
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: five point six percent.

487
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: Is that?

488
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean?

489
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: Usually this U SE Irvine team, it's like their three

490
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: point defense isn't great and their two point defense is elite.

491
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: This year the two point defense is kind of slipt,

492
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: but their number one in the nation a three point defense.

493
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 1: So maybe the regression monster is looming ahead of this

494
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: rematch with Sandy back in the mix. Do you have

495
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: a preference on either one of those teams?

496
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be right because they they've never had

497
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: a three point percentage defense like this in their history.

498
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: They are they do do a good job of running

499
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: teams off the line denying the three pointer. But this

500
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: is insane. It's got to regress. I do lean towards

501
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 2: Irvine in this matchup. Dawson Baker is the guy that's

502
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: been back in the lineup now for a while. He's

503
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: been hurt like five games or so for them. I

504
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: think I had affected him a bit. With him fully back,

505
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: I think he's the best guard on the floor here.

506
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: No disrespect to Pierre Leuis of Santa Barbara and Irvine

507
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: has the best player in Conwell, and I respect Russell

508
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: Turner a lot.

509
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: I lean towards Irvine in this matchup.

510
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: By the way, twenty Irvine when we're gonna talk about

511
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: Grand Canyon next in the whack their second in the

512
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,239
Speaker 1: nation of twenty six point four percent. But Irvine at

513
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: twenty five point six percent. Has a team ever finished

514
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: that low for an entire season, I'd be shocked. Let's see,

515
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm going back twenty five point three percent. In two

516
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: thousand and five, Norfolk State, Oh boy, they were number

517
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: one by about four percent. I think that's the only

518
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: one VCU and eight was twenty six point nine. But yeah,

519
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: this is pretty insane for what Irvan has done. Any

520
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: other matchups or targets in the first round or elsewhere

521
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: that are worth mentioning.

522
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: I like Riverside against WHII. You mentioned the injury concern

523
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: for Hawaiian and Riverside won the first game. Their defense,

524
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: their scrappiness, it's kind of unmatched in this league, the

525
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: way they can really buckle down. And also, again, like Irvine,

526
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: a very well coached team, So I like Riverside.

527
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, Hawaii was intriguing early in the season. They

528
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: just got out of the gates. It's a unique offense

529
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: with you know, some size that can shoot, but just

530
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: without Coleman, it just hasn't looked the same. And I

531
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: just don't think that that offense really has it to

532
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: make a run without Himould you agree?

533
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so? And of course they're not at home.

534
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 2: They definitely do the most damage in the friendly confines

535
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: of Hawaii.

536
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: They're just not as effective away from home.

537
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: Yep. And there is uh you agree, there's It's not

538
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: worth talking about, man, there are some bad teams. It's

539
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: not worth Northridge Bakersfield or Polly Bakersfield by the way,

540
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean that offense.

541
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: We talked about a disappointing team too, Bakersfield. I'll they

542
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: be a little bit better than that.

543
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: They don't. They just shoot twos and miss them. That's

544
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: all they do on offense. It's like it's one of

545
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: the worst painful watches, uh you will ever see. They

546
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: just play super slow and then miss twos. Like that's

547
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: like what they do.

548
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: Old Al Skinner offense. Kennesaw State.

549
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: Their only wins in conference play. We're against Polly, that's it.

550
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, who sucks?

551
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dregs of this conference. It's not worth discussing

552
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: that are playing in the first rounds, even though they

553
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: get a day off. It's not gonna matter for those teams.

554
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: But maybe Davis is the most intreating of them. If

555
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: Davis does pull off the stunderd by the way, be

556
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: the first team in NC double A history to make

557
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: the tournament and in the same season lose to Academy

558
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: of Art. Wow, big stubby, Right, Maybe Academy of Art

559
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: is one another division one year. I think, by the way,

560
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: Academy of Art is like a Ponzi scheme or it's.

561
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they have legit players, like like XD one guys.

562
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like Google it. There's like apparently like a

563
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: fraud thing. There's all kinds of like lawsuits against them. Anyway,

564
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: all right, that'll wrap up the Big West. Let's finish

565
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: things up with the Whack Tournament. This will take place

566
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: in Orleans Arena in Paradise, Nevada. Just you know ten

567
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: years when every single conference tournament is going to be

568
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. That's where we're trending. Lamar didn't make it.

569
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: Lamar one of this sad as teams I have ever

570
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: watched in my life. I bet them against They didn't

571
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: cover again against Baptists. I see the closed year. I

572
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: bet them against Rio Grand Valley led the entire plus

573
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: plus two, led the entire game, and then just decided

574
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: we're going to turn it over and give up laps

575
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: at the end. And then I mean it was That

576
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: team is a joke.

577
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: They don't make sixteen in whack play.

578
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: Zero Division one wins. Their only wins on the year.

579
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: We're against Wiley and they beat our Lady of the

580
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: Lake at home by three.

581
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: That's it that great?

582
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: I mean, man Jordan Adams, he went to Lamar and uh,

583
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: what a weird choice, the wisest decision. Yeah, that team

584
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: was painful to watch. Also, Dixie State and Tarleton State

585
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: are ineligible stupid transition period, so there's only ten teams here.

586
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: Takes place March eighth through the twelfth. This league gets

587
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: it right. They reward and the top seeds. Some would

588
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: say a little bit too much, but I think that

589
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: these conferences willing one bit. You should reward year because

590
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: conferences get money for tournament wins. You should make it

591
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: the you know, an easy. You shouldn't make it more

592
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: difficult for your top seed. You want to get your

593
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: top seeds into the tournament that give you the best

594
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: chance to win, and the Whack has done that. And

595
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: the Whack top seeds have dominated this tournament. I mean

596
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: even going back to what like Utah State and Boise

597
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: State run but just of the teams that are in now,

598
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: and it's always changing, but it's always been the one

599
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: or two seeds, and it's usually new Mexico State. In

600
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: Mexico State's won seven of nine championships, but they're not

601
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: the defending champ. That's Grand Canyon. Grand Canyon to Mexico

602
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: State was just a mess last year of COVID issues

603
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: and it was just an off year for them. I

604
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: believe the only non one or two seed to win

605
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: this in the past ten years is in twenty thirteen.

606
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: To Mexico State won it as a three seed. That's it.

607
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: It's very difficult for one of these you know, lower

608
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: seats to make a run. But I think the conference

609
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: is deeper than usual and this isn't a really intriguing conference.

610
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Really a lot of different styles, you know, teams, some

611
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: teams of pressure, some teams have a lot of bigs

612
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: guards like this very matchup dependent and you know you

613
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: have New Mexico State slid at the end. I mean

614
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: they lost the Chicago State somehow and then they lost

615
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: at home. In that future to the what did you

616
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: what future in.

617
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: The Jeff, I had New Mesco State winning the whack

618
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: they split, But if they didn't lose Chicago State would

619
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: a run out, right, So yeah, painful?

620
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Do they not pay out on that if they split?

621
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: I think there's a different rules dead heat rule most likely,

622
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: so it's probably gonna just split down the bed.

623
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Yeah, lost at Chicago State and then they lost

624
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: at home to Steven F. Austin, who's the three seed,

625
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: and that was the first home loss in conference place

626
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 1: since twenty seventeen. A lot they were dealing with, like

627
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: the flu, right, there was like an illness going around,

628
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: so that could have a lot to do with it.

629
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: They're going to get their stup here because they're gonna

630
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: get a quadruple by is the one seed. Seattle also

631
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: gets to quadruple by as the two seed New Mexico State,

632
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: by the way, and a pretty favorable path if you

633
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: look from a matchup perspective, because they're gonna get Grand Canyon,

634
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: who they took care of in both meetings. I don't

635
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: think it's the best matchup for Grand Canyon. They also

636
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: took care of Seattle, who's the two seed in the

637
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: bottom half. You know, I look at the top half

638
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: of the bracket with New Mexico State can save you

639
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: on flag get hot enough. Good for Sam Houston State,

640
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: but when they get to New Mexico State, it'll be

641
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: their third game in three days and then. But I

642
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: think that the most intriguing team is probably Steve Enough

643
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: Austin because they're the hottest. They've won ten in a row.

644
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: In front of the pod. Jordan Maduski has pointed out

645
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: they retooled their offense and they've been a different animal

646
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Speaker 1: ever since. Like I said, they won at New Mexico

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Speaker 1: State and they've won ten straight. They're the three seed,

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Speaker 1: So what are you seeing here? I think it's a

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Speaker 1: really intriguing conference tournament, but you have to just just

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Speaker 1: the paths for Seattle in New Mexico State. The rewards

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Speaker 1: for giving the one and two steeds are just massive

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Speaker 1: in this conference. Can anyone else top either?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And I love the way they do it. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a great idea to give your top seeds the advantage.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, I told you pre show here. I

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Speaker 2: saw a book this morning.

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Speaker 3: It was real.

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Speaker 2: Line had Seattle five to one to win the tournament,

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Speaker 2: behind Grand Canyon at two to one, So right, there

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Speaker 2: is value when Seattle has to win one last game.

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Speaker 2: It's just a huge advantage getting biased in semi finals.

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Speaker 2: But this is the best whack we've ever seen. So

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Speaker 2: it is top to bottom, the best it's been and

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Speaker 2: that a lot of it is due to adding c

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Speaker 2: N F Austin, Sam Houston, Amplin Christian. It's an awesome tournament.

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Speaker 2: I think it is New Mexico State. It's like you said,

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Speaker 2: they swept Grands Canyon. That's gonna be the biggest competition.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not really worried about Seattle. I'm hoping Stephen F.

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Speaker 2: Austa can make a run. But that extra game is tough.

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Speaker 2: They also have to go through the Utah Valley or

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Speaker 2: Ablen Christian certainly not an easy task. That bottom bracket

673
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Speaker 2: is tough to wade through for one of those teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, would you Sam Houston State would have to go

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Speaker 1: through you know, cal Baptist or can be pesky.

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Speaker 4: I guess Art has a game, Yeah, yeah, Rio Grand

677
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Speaker 4: is not but Sam Houston but they didn't have to,

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Speaker 4: you know, play the winner that and then they have

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Speaker 4: to play beat Grand Canyon.

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Speaker 1: Then they'd have to be in New Mexico State and

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Speaker 1: then Seattle. That's tough, but they have a player who

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Speaker 1: could get red hot if you had to take you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to take a longer shot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think if if you didn't, don't want to go

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Speaker 1: one of the favorites. And I don't know, I haven't

686
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Speaker 1: seen updated odds in many places for this tournament, so

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Speaker 1: we'll see what Steven f. Austin actually is. The way

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00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: that they're playing, they should be up there. But do

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Speaker 1: you have a preference between Sam Houston State and Abilene Christian?

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Speaker 1: Is it flags ability to go nuclear? And you know,

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Speaker 1: Abilie Christian is just not the same defense this year.

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Speaker 1: It's a really disappointing year for them after last year.

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Speaker 1: Just not the same defensive unit and they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to win four games and four days as well. But

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Speaker 1: you have a preference between either one of those teams?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, On one hand, you have Abilene who has plenty

697
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Speaker 2: of guys that played in the tournament last year, right,

698
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Speaker 2: and Brent Tanner and their coached on the bench for

699
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Speaker 2: that so maybe that experience helps. But on the other hand,

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Speaker 2: Utah Valley is a terrible matchup for them. They did

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Speaker 2: win that first game, but size amac for Utah Valley,

702
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: the best big man in the league. He can have

703
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: thirty and twenty. It's just a very tough matchup. And

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Speaker 2: in that game, Utah Valley was missing McClanahan and Harmon,

705
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: two of their better players. So I think Abiline's in

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Speaker 2: trouble getting out of the first round, assuming Utah Valley

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Speaker 2: takes care of business against Chicago State, which I think

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00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: they will. On the other hand, Sam Houston, going through

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Speaker 2: those three teams you mentioned, Grand came to Mexico State,

710
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: Seattle or Steven F. Austin or whoever, that seems almost

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Speaker 2: impossible even with Sadium Flag.

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Speaker 1: What your prediction is your prediction one verse two, Like

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Speaker 1: it's been a lot of years.

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Speaker 2: I think SFA gets it done. I think s today

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Speaker 2: beats Seattle. I think the Mexico State wins one over three.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I have the I have the show love

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Speaker 1: to Seattle, who had an interim coach, right they fired

718
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Speaker 1: their coach and now now he's there. They named him

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Speaker 1: the before their full time head coach, permanent head coach,

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Speaker 1: but credible job. Yeah what a year from you know,

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Speaker 1: trammel Tyson and Griggsby. I mean it's a it's a

722
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Speaker 1: fun team to watch. They play fast, they take a

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Speaker 1: lot of threes, So yeah, I have to show some

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Speaker 1: love to Seattle. But the way that Steven F. Austin

725
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Speaker 1: is playing right now, I think that they're going to

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Speaker 1: come out to the bottom half. So I would agree

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Speaker 1: with you. So no, no, no widespread prices out there

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Speaker 1: right now. But keep your eyes peeled, keep your eyes

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Speaker 1: peeled on the app to see if I had anything

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Speaker 1: all write ups for these conference on this week as well, Uh,

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Speaker 1: anything from a match up perspective. You mentioned Utah value

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Speaker 1: from an individual game that you might have circle coming up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be a tough matchup for them. Like

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Speaker 2: I said that, the size is just a huge advantage.

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Speaker 2: And then I don't think Grand Cannon beat in Mexico State.

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Speaker 2: They've proven it. They don't have their their two twin

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Speaker 2: towers the last year when they were better than Mexico State.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned that COVID year last year for the Aggies,

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Speaker 2: which was just nuts. You take that year out. They're

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Speaker 2: fifty six and seven in the regular season in the

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Speaker 2: Whack under Chris Chans, which is just nuts. I think

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Speaker 2: it's their conference, so I really do think they take

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Speaker 2: this well.

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Speaker 1: And two of those losses were this year when they

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Speaker 1: had that ill.

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Speaker 2: Chicago State exactly. Chicago State's one of the seven. How

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Speaker 2: wild is that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane. They also lost by twenty five at

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Speaker 1: Sam Houston State earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: They interbeating everyone back then, Sam Houston right that eight

751
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Speaker 2: and one.

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Speaker 1: Stevens, Yeah, Sam Houston was up sixty six to twenty

753
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Speaker 1: eight in that game. Just an unbelievable effort. So they've

754
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Speaker 1: done it. But I agree, I think it's the one

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Speaker 1: verse the three here, all right. That'll do it for us,

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Speaker 1: wrapping up The Whack, the Big West, the Big twelve,

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Speaker 1: and the Pac twelve. We have more episodes coming. We

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Speaker 1: do four conferences with Jim, do three with Matt, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll do six more with Colin, Mike, ej and

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Speaker 1: myself tomorrow. So make sure you check out all the

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Speaker 1: content we'll have right ups for that. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: check out the Three Man Leave on Twitter if they'll

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Speaker 1: get off your chest before.

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Speaker 2: We got that's that's it, man, Twitter is best place

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Speaker 2: for us. Three m W underscore CVB.

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Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it. Also, Big bets on Big

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