1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: None of us want Monday. Nobody wants Monday on either team, 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: either podcast, either fan base. No one wants to deal 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: with Monday, basically, and you know it may not be 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Winner Take All by then, Welcome to a crossover edition 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: of a podcast featuring Hammer Territory and metst up you 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: would imagine in the middle of a big time playoff 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: atmosphere kind of series. Half of this podcast is happy. 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Half of this podcast is not as happy. That was 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: gonna be the way it went, no matter what the 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: result was on this Tuesday evening with the Brims gonna 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: five to one win. My name is Brad Roland. I 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: am part of Hammer Territory alongside Steven Tolbert. Hello Steven, 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: we talk all the time. 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: How are you, Brad? How's it going? 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm good? And the messed up guys are here, Mark 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: and James. 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: I mean I was really hoping this is going to 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 4: be a little bit different, different of a post game 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: reaction coming from us, but you guys really handed it 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 4: to us. It was not a good game by the 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 4: Mets in almost any facet of it, and that. 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: Was That's a tough way to start the series. 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: With the context that we have of the Mets and 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: the Braves late in September didn't love that. 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like gu I said, you figured to be something, 27 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 5: Marcus said, figured to be something different. But the worst 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 5: part about every Mets fan watching this game is that 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 5: this feels like very much more of the same. And 30 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 5: now I think that those feelings were a little bit 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 5: pervasive before this game, but every Mets fan was like, no, 32 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 5: this is different. We don't want to think those thoughts again. 33 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 5: And now because of the way this game started, because 34 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 5: of the way this game ended, that is the front 35 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 5: of mind. I can speak for basic every single Mets 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 5: fan right now. That's all I can think about. I'm 37 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 5: sure it's all Mark and think about any Mets fan 38 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 5: watching this and listening to this can think about right now, 39 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 5: and that is a horribly unscary thought. 40 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's RECs from from the Braves perspective. You know, 41 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: all year long we've said if this team scores, they win, 42 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: and you know, they've got one of the best here 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: in the second best era in baseball. As a team, 44 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: they struggled all year being able to score runs, and 45 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: when they score, they win. And they scored five runs 46 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: tonight and you know, the pitching was outstanding like it 47 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: normally is. And it really is that simple for them. 48 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: If they score three, four or five runs in a game, 49 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: they win the game typically, and so that's the key 50 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: for them. And obviously they took care of business tonight. 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: On the vibe side of things, Uh, I had I 52 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: had that thought that you guys might say that about 53 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: how them this the Mets feel give given the recent history, 54 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: I will say, you know, coming in, the pressure is 55 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: all on the Braves, right the deficit is what it is. 56 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: I know that maybe it doesn't feel that way to 57 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: the Mets having been in the position they've been in 58 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, but they're kind of in 59 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: the driver's seat here and the Braves have to win. 60 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: The Braves have to win these games or they're just 61 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: going to be dead. That's going to be the stakes 62 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: for them. And you know, the famous adage is like 63 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: you can't make a statement and can't swep a series 64 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: unless you win game one. They won game one, but 65 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: it's still I mean, we'll get into it later, I'm sure, 66 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: but the pressure is kind of still on the Braves. 67 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: It even there's kind of a comfortable win in some 68 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: respects the Mets are still the team ahead. The Mets 69 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: are still in control of this thing to at least 70 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: some extent, even if I'm sure judge by the reaction 71 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: from Mark and James, it does not feel that way 72 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: necessarily on a Tuesday. 73 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 74 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: No, I got to give a little shot to my 75 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: cousin Ted. He we were texting during the game, and 76 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: he was saying, how this Mets team all year is 77 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 4: kind of played with house money. They've been playing a 78 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: lot loose, feels like they got nothing to lose because 79 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: there was no expectations. Tonight was the first time, at 80 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: least in my opinion and my cousins as well, where 81 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: it felt like the Mets felt the pressure. It felt 82 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: like the Mets knew they had something to lose, where 83 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: these previous games playing the Phillies and everybody else that 84 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: were doing a lot of chasing, even chasing the Braves 85 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: and the Diamondbacks and the Padres at some point, But 86 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: now this game against the Braves, it felt like things 87 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: in their brain at least for a little bit changed 88 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: where they started to feel the pressure more than they 89 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: have all year, and that is not something I was 90 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: hoping to see tonight. 91 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 5: I also think that weirdly, the Mets off day they 92 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 5: had yesterday on Monday killed them because this Mets team 93 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 5: haf been playing dad day after day. I think it 94 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 5: was just what like fourteenth straight days or seventeenth straight 95 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 5: days they had the game and they had to deal 96 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 5: with the Lindor injury and Stride, they had to deal 97 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 5: with everything happening in Stride those blown saves last weekend 98 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 5: against the Phillies and this last seven straight days of 99 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 5: City Field. It was just momentum, momentum, momentum. There was 100 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 5: no thinking. There was just playing next day at bad 101 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 5: that bad picture and now similar building off of Mark said, 102 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 5: like there was a moment of thought and like this 103 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 5: moment of like really like oh wow, we're really doing 104 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 5: it really in this spot. Maybe possibly a little bit 105 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 5: of like reading the press clippings. I know Mark and 106 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 5: I probably read the press clippings too. Oh we kind 107 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 5: of were some of the press clippings the other day 108 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 5: where and it's just like now the realization happens. You're like, Okay, 109 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 5: now this is like the ultimate moment. You have to 110 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 5: dig deep because Chris Sales on the mound the next game. 111 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 5: Whenever it happens and you have to basically win it 112 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 5: to secure all the good things that happened this season. 113 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: Well, and that's the fascinating part of this series is 114 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: that we don't know when the next game is gonna 115 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: be played. I mean, there's a hurricane. There's a hurricane 116 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: coming at some point in the next two days, and 117 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: so winning game one, I mean game two might not 118 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: be till like Monday. We really we have no idea 119 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: when game two of the series is gonna be. So 120 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: getting off Turt. Winning Game one was was you know, 121 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: for the Braves, of course, it was just of massive importance. 122 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: I mean, they could not afford to lose Game one. Honestly, 123 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: it was I agree with Brad. It was way more 124 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: important of game for the Braves, probably than the Mets. 125 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: Even that side. I know they're dealing with a lot 126 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: of demons. They're dealing with twenty twenty two and all 127 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: the bad thoughts that came from that series. But just 128 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: from the standing standpoint, the Braves had to have this game. 129 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 2: I mean, they just they had to have this game. 130 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: I know, you guys were talking about that. 131 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: It feels like it's the pressures on the Braves and 132 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: you can see mine and James's reactions to everything that's 133 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: being said, and we're just so incredibly a ball of 134 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: stress right now. 135 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: Is because we felt on Sunday night. 136 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 4: Because it's completely gone right now, it does not feel 137 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: the same you guys, like you guys just do this 138 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 4: to us all the time. So do you actually feel 139 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: any pressure, because it doesn't feel like you do at all. 140 00:05:58,960 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 2: No. 141 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: I will say it's been and I know you guys 142 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: want to don't want to hear this. It's been a 143 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: very angsty Brave season, like throughout. I know they've been 144 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: in kind of decent shape the whole way, but all 145 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: the injuries they've had, like it's been like nothing has 146 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: gone right for the Braves all year long. So it 147 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: may not feel like it's supposed to be angsty, but 148 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: it's been really angsty all year and coming into this 149 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: like they've been playing really well recently as well, like 150 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like they probably should be with their roster, 151 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: but they keep winning series. Then you look at the 152 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: standings and they've lost ground in the last six weeks 153 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: to the Mets and the Diamondbacks because they've been playing 154 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: so well. As you guys know, the Mets have been 155 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: so hot for so long that it Braves like Canna. 156 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: They can't seem to make up any ground. So they 157 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: kind of came in like we all know the deal here. 158 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: The Braves have to win a series, so they're going 159 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: to be going home. So yeah, there's some pressure, but 160 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: I guess once you could take a three nothing lead 161 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: and you kind of realize it's the Mets and all 162 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: the all the recent history kind of seefs in. I'm 163 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: sure maybe we had a little bit of reaction, but 164 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: I don't know about Steven. I didn't feel good about 165 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: this one until it was five nothing, and even then, 166 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: like nothing is safe in a high stress game. It's baseball. 167 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: You guys knows how this is. It's like until the 168 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: final out, no exhaling, and even then it's like, oh, 169 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: by the way, they got to do this again tomorrow. 170 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: Well maybe tomorrow, maybe doubleheader, Monday, whatever, it's gonna be, 171 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: like guys said, but no matter what happens, it's like, 172 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: all right, they got one, now they have to get 173 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: the next one. Whereas the Mets kind of have a 174 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: little bit board. 175 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: I didn't sit down to watch a pitch until Jimenez 176 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: came in in the eighth inning. That was the first 177 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: time I actually sat on my couch to actually watch 178 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: a pitch. So no, I never I never felt good 179 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: about this game until it was until the game was over, 180 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: quite howso. And and in terms of like stress, it 181 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: is funny, like relative to expectations, because you know, the Mets, 182 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: I feel like the Mets are playing with house money 183 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: a little bit because no one really expected them to 184 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: win anything this year. This was always going to be 185 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: kind of a bridge year for them. You know, they 186 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: went for big and twenty three it didn't work. They 187 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: kind of you know, spun it back a little bit. 188 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: And you know, for the Braves that the expectation is 189 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: always to win a World Series, even with the injuries. 190 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: You might think with the injuries that that changes. But 191 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: like for the fan base, especially when you have the 192 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: you know, basically the number one staff in baseball and 193 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: have all year, like, the expectation is at the very 194 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: least to make the playoffs. And so yeah, I mean, 195 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: our stress level has been through the roof for most 196 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: of the season and it hasn't helped that. The Diamondbacks, 197 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: the Padres, and the Mets I've been like the three 198 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: hottest teams in baseball since the All Star break, like Brad' said, 199 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: with the Braves have been able to gain no ground 200 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: despite playing really well for about six weeks, and that's 201 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: just added to the stress. So yeah, Braves fans have 202 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: been I would say highly stressed over the last well 203 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: all year really, but especially over the last six weeks 204 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: or so. 205 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: But you know this too, like not just to finish 206 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: that thought, I we all, we've all been circling this 207 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Mets series for six weeks probably I'm sure you guys 208 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: have too. It's like, all right, it's probably gonna come 209 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: down of this to this series in late September. We 210 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: all kind of understand that. And if if the teams 211 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: are close, everyone has this big red circle on this series, 212 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: So that maybe I guess swings a little bit of 213 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: the of the vibes of this thing. Because no matter 214 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: what happened with the Braves totally collapsed, it was going 215 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: to be a chance this week and winning game one 216 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: of the series. That kind of I guess it proves 217 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: that change. 218 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 5: And it was even only until our big winning streak 219 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 5: two weeks ago where we actually got to have you 220 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 5: guys in the standings consistently, like we have been weirdly 221 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 5: chasing you like you talk about all we've been playing 222 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 5: so well in can't g ground. That's how fell from 223 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 5: our perspective for the last three full months. The Mets 224 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: have the best record in baseball since June first, The 225 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 5: Mets have the fifth best record in baseball since the 226 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 5: All Star break, and we're still like, how could we 227 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: be a game and a half behind the Brave, still like, 228 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: thankfully we won the nine out of ten last week, 229 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 5: and then we just won the six out of seven 230 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 5: this week, so like, okay, we're head by two games, 231 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 5: but those two games felt monumental compared to where the 232 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: rest of the season has been. How these National League 233 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 5: wild card standings have shaken out through the second half. 234 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: And I think it's also important for Mets fans too, 235 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 4: like a little bit of heat check because again we're nervous, 236 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: we're stressed again, deja vu, PTSD, whatever you want to call, 237 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: like we're having it right now. But this team really 238 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 4: has stepped up a lot all year. There's been a 239 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 4: lot of big games for this team. There's been a 240 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 4: lot of times me and James have said there must 241 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: win games way earlier in the season. 242 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: The Mets step up. They do it. 243 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: Not that our opinion really matters on what it must 244 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: when game is or not, but this team has. 245 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: Stepped up before. Schwellenbach is like a good pitcher. 246 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: I think a lot of times too people get caught 247 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 4: up in the narrative of a rookie pitcher pitching in 248 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: a big game. You don't find out these guys are 249 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: dogs until they actually step up in those moments. This 250 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: is schwellenbax big moment. He stepped up severo did not 251 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 4: for us. The offense completely crumbled for the Mets in 252 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 4: tonight's game. But at the same time, like once in 253 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 4: a while you can tip your cap and like they 254 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: beat us. There's nothing that the Mets did in this 255 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: game that gave me the apparent appearance of what like 256 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: Mets fans like to say, like the choke. Besides just 257 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 4: simply not hitting, like five runs is a game that 258 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: you can win. This was a winnable game from the 259 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 4: pitching side of things. It was just the bats got 260 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: shut down because Swellenbach was just simply better. 261 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 5: He was, and he seemed to get better as the 262 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 5: game went on, like as you guys built the lead, 263 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 5: like it seemed like he was growing stronger and stronger. 264 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: And last time we finished Swellenbach that Saturday in citney Field, 265 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 5: he was good differently because he was just Slyly after 266 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 5: Slyther and everybody was swaying and missing. This one he was 267 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: so comfortable with to lead. He was like, hit it, 268 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 5: hit it, hit it. You guys played great defense. I 269 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 5: was watching the roommate who watches three baseball games a year, 270 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 5: maybe if that, and he's like, the Brace have really 271 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 5: impressed me with their defense. I was like, shut up, 272 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 5: don't don't say these things out louding where I'm doing 273 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 5: with this. But like the Mets were hitting the ball well. 274 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 5: The two three, four and five hitters combined for oh 275 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 5: for doing the quick math fifteen for the Mets. But 276 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 5: brand Nemo had three hard hit balls. Mark Fianzez hit 277 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: that home run, hit another ball on the cruise. Nemo 278 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 5: hit that ball down the line, And that was the 279 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 5: seventh or eighth where if Alsen doesn't get the glove 280 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 5: on there, you're suddenly looking at second and third, one 281 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 5: out of the hard of the Mets lineup, looking coming 282 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 5: up in a four three run games. It's like it. 283 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: That's when I stood back up there you. 284 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 5: Go exactly, because it felt like it was tense for 285 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 5: those moments, but even as the game weirdly, I think 286 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 5: it felt out of reach for Mets fans. In a 287 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 5: much more real sense, it wasn't that out of reach. 288 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 5: We just couldn't really muster up anything. We couldn't string 289 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 5: hits together. We only four hits in general in this game. 290 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: You can't win a game of four hits when you 291 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 5: have the team has five runs. You can't do it. 292 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you guys something the Mets guys, 293 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: so like, from my perspective, it feels like it's a 294 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: it's like a house money year for the Mets, Like 295 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: because I didn't expect them to do much. Most people 296 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: didn't expect them to do much. They got off to 297 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: that horrible start. I think you guys were like eleven 298 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: games under five hundred and like the early part of 299 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: June or something like that. A lot of people kind 300 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: of wrote you guys off, and I'm one of them. 301 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: To be honest, I wasn't thinking about the Mets at all. 302 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: So from your perspective, from Mets fans perspective, does it 303 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 2: still feel like like a house money year? Or is 304 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: it the fact that you're already here and now in 305 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: the playoffs, like expectations have flipped. 306 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: You got to ask me that in November. I can't 307 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: answer that question Seceember. 308 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, because right now the crazy Mets fan brain is 309 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: telling me. As much as this season has been surprising 310 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: and better than we expected, I'm still gonna be heartbroken 311 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: if we don't make the postseason Like this, this season 312 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: has been so great, it has to end with the 313 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: postseason birth. It has to end with some sort of runs. 314 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 4: It would leave a bad taste in our mouth for 315 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 4: what overall, like for the grand scheme of the Mets 316 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 4: in their future, would be a successful good season. But 317 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: I'm also tired of saying that, and I would like 318 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 4: an actual successful good season for once. It's it's tough 319 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: to answer. On September twenty fourth. 320 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 5: I'll be way more dramatic than Mark because we've tasted 321 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: the forbidden fruit over these last few months. Now like 322 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 5: we've been in a playoff spot again, the best record 323 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 5: in the baseball since June first, it would now totally 324 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 5: flip and the expectations have now overcome me, and I 325 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 5: think I would be very disappointed if this team didn't, 326 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 5: especially because, like we opened with it all, we always 327 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 5: knew for three straight months it was coming down to 328 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 5: this exact series against the Braves in Atlanta. Three games 329 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 5: against the Braves in Atlanta. The Braves are missing most 330 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 5: of their best players. There's not much of excuse right now. 331 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 5: On paper, you probably very much have a better team. 332 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 5: Not definitely, not better pitching, definitely, not a better bullpen, 333 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 5: but one through nine you should really be able to 334 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 5: hit with these guys. And the fact that this is 335 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 5: how they showed up after the first games, it's really 336 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 5: hard not to get these horribly terrifying flashbacks. 337 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, before we talk a little bit more, 338 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: because obviously there's a few more games to talk about 339 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: too coming up, and some more little itty bitty details. 340 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 3: Let's run a quick break and we'll be right back. 341 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 6: I love a great deal, but I'm not gonna run 342 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 6: sprints in the outfield just to save a few. It 343 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 6: has to be easy, no hoops, no bs. 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Should we talk about 372 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: the weather for a second, because like, it's really a 373 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: chance to like ruin everything, and I feel terrible about that, 374 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: and I would I would even if the bridge had 375 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: lost tonight. I would still say the same thing. But 376 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: there's a chance, like Thursday might be a total washout 377 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: with the way the projections are and Wednesday if they 378 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: don't get the game in when it's supposed to start. 379 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: We joked about it earlier, but it William could be 380 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: like a double header on Monday, and nobody wants that, 381 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: especially because even if it's the team that wins it 382 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: in that instance, if it's a battle for one playoff spot, 383 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: et cetera, they gotta turn on and play on Tuesday 384 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: in a three game series when you just had to 385 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: like go absolutely, forgive this, forgive this speech, balls to 386 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: the wall on Monday and a doubleheader for your season 387 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: and then play on Tuesdays. Like nobody wants to do 388 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: that on either side. I'm very sure. So, I mean, 389 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the even the takeaway is other 390 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: than just like pray for no rain at least for 391 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: one of these like gotta get one of these two 392 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: games in right once. 393 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're looking at what eighty one percent rain at 394 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: seven pm, ninety nine percent rain at eight o'clock, seventy 395 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: seven at ten ninety eleven for tomorrow. 396 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like we're playing baseball. You know, I 397 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: went to school in the South. 398 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: It rains a little bit different down there, and I 399 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: think a hurricane might be a little bit different than 400 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: the normal rain we're used to during a baseball game 401 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: the occasional times. Doesn't seem like these games are gonna happen, 402 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: which is probably the worst. 403 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: That can happen for the Mets right now. I think, 404 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 405 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: I hate the idea of the doubleheader on Monday, That 406 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: to me is taking a nightmare and just extending in 407 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: another week longer. 408 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: I don't want that. 409 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 5: There's also this weird question, now, what would each of 410 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 5: these teams do this weekend? Like are you holding back 411 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: some pitching? Because I like, let's say the next schedule 412 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 5: started for the Mets is David Peers and then would 413 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 5: be Sean and Iya in the last game of this series. 414 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 5: Do you not pitch those guys on Friday because you 415 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 5: want both of them to pitch on Monday? Like how 416 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 5: do you handle us? And the Braves are supposed to 417 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 5: pitch Sale on Wednesday and then Max Free on Thursday? 418 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 5: Like how like this? Both team still need to win 419 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 5: the games that they'll be playing, but then also the 420 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 5: game against each other could wind up being the most important, 421 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: and you're on less time And I don't know where 422 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 5: the Braves pitching depth right now is. I know it's 423 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 5: not tremendous all the injuries guys had the Mets isn't 424 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 5: that great either behind the five guys who've been pitching 425 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 5: every fifth day for them, And even that kind of 426 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 5: gives me some odd of that as well, So like 427 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 5: where do you how much do you hold back? 428 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: Then? 429 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 5: Are guys taking a full week off before they go 430 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 5: on the mound. This would be a once in a 431 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 5: lifetime thing for all of these managers and players here 432 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 5: to wait and see how the strategy will be for 433 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 5: a possible tie breaking double. 434 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: Heather Well, the interesting thing for the Braves is that 435 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: they held Sale back for tomorrow's games. So originally the 436 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: conversation in Braves Country was do you pitch Sale on 437 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: Tuesday tonight's game so that he can pitch on Sunday 438 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: in a game one sixty two scenario where you needed 439 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: that game to win to make the playoffs. They didn't 440 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: do that. They held him back for Wednesday's game, which 441 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: is now interesting because if you have to play Monday, 442 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: that means Sale for the Braves would be available on 443 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: normal rest to pitch a Monday game. So, you know, 444 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: the team and the manager and everybody in the organization. 445 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: Quite honestly, they caught a lot of flak for not 446 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: having Sale pitched tonight because now you know, obviously when 447 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: he pitches in this series, it's going to be the 448 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 2: last time he pitches. And funny enough, if the season 449 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: gets extended to Monday, then that's not the case, then 450 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: Sale could very much pitch on Monday. So I think, 451 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: listening to you guys, my guess is the Braves are 452 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: a little better set up for that potential of having 453 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: to play on Monday because Sale would be available on 454 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: regular rest to do it. And also they have Ronaldo 455 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: Lopez who's supposed to come off the il Thursday, who 456 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: could also potentially pitch a game. So if they had 457 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: to pitch both of those guys, say they had to 458 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: play double Hearon on Monday, which is obviously is the 459 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: night mer scenario, they could potentially pitch both of those 460 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 2: guys on Monday on normal rest. So I think the 461 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 2: Braves are probably a little better set up for that 462 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: eventuality than the Mets are. But nobody wants. I mean, 463 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: I have tickets for Tomorrow's game, so like, I really 464 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: really don't want that canceled. But the weather is just abysmal. 465 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fully opposite of the Mets because if we 466 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 5: play tomorrow but they get rained down on Thursday, then 467 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 5: you guys miss manayah, And if we play Monday, I'll 468 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 5: pitch on Friday, so you would wind up missing him completely. 469 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 5: So we'll get your best pitcher twice and you will 470 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 5: never see our best pitcher. So yeah, and the dirty 471 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 5: nightmare scenario for the. 472 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: Mets, and the dirty secret is the Braves I believe, 473 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: even including today, are five hundred when Chris Sale does 474 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: not pitch, and twenty two and seven when he does 475 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: for the season, So essentially they are as average as 476 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: could be without Chris Sale and pretty awesome when Chris Sale, 477 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: which is logical he's the say young front runner, it's 478 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: like that that's a huge secret. But they've been pretty 479 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: pretty mediocre when he's not pitching, and that's we referenced 480 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: it earlier with Schwellenbach being so good today, and I'm 481 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: sure Steve and I weren't so were terribly surprise. He's 482 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: been nails for most of this season. But still it 483 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: was the biggest part of his life and he goes 484 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: out there, especially given the mostly local controversy but still 485 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: local controversy about not pitching Sales tonight. It makes you 486 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 1: look a lot better when your rookie goes out there 487 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: and throws seven to one run innings against a competent offense. So, like, 488 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe the brands will be proven right. 489 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: I actually candidly didn't like it, and I said as 490 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: much on the show. If Sale was healthy, I would 491 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: have pitched him today. But it looks like that's gonna 492 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: work out at least for the short term. But I mean, 493 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: the weather talk is boring. It does matter. We had 494 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: to do it. We didn't want to talk about the weather, 495 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: but it's like it. Really. If it wasn't a hurricane, 496 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a story. But it's a hurricane, so 497 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: here we are. 498 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 4: The one thing that would help with the weather is 499 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: that hopefully Francisco Lindor would be able to then play 500 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 4: into out of the games in this series, because the 501 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 4: way that he looked walking in today. I caught a 502 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: lot of flak on Twitter for saying he looks stiff, 503 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: but he didn't even come in the game, so I 504 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: mean he might still be a little stiff. A back 505 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: injury serious at least, that's my silver lining. If they 506 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 4: were to play a doubleheader on Monday, Francisco Lindor, that's 507 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: the best chance he has to probably play the rest 508 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: of the year. Would be a game two games on Monday, 509 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 4: and they would arguably be the two most important games 510 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 4: of the series. There's also like the weird thing going 511 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 4: on right now, and you mentioned like Schwellenbach being picked 512 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 4: for the Mets, and just like managerial decisions getting undermined 513 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 4: or talked about a little bit, Mendoza has been a 514 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 4: guy who's been moving people around so much today. And 515 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys know as much as 516 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: Braves fans but US Mets fans seeing Starling Marte hitting third, 517 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: coming up twice with men on base, multiple men on base, 518 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: and having some of the worst at bats possible that 519 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: we've seen really discouraging, especially because, like we said, we 520 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 4: had opportunities of time to get back into this game 521 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 4: and just kind of let it off the hook. 522 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it just doesn't really seem to make sense for 523 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 5: the mess perspective, but they continue to do it, not 524 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 5: only hitting him in prominent spots in the order consistently, 525 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 5: even though again he's played this year, not hit for 526 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 5: much power and not really hit well at all in 527 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 5: general recently, and then also continues to playing him in 528 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 5: the outfield. I understand that Jesse Winker is a is 529 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 5: a bit of an adventure in the outfield. You don't 530 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 5: want to play him there either. The Mets have an 531 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 5: embarrassment of riches that specifically designated hither but that throw 532 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 5: home from Marte in the third inning allowed the Braves 533 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 5: to get extra bases was ill advised. It wasn't close 534 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 5: to getting out Michael Harris, who has amazing speed at 535 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 5: home on that single That from Albi's was just it 536 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 5: was kind of a compounding of issues for Marte like 537 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 5: overall game after as this game went on, play after play, 538 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 5: where again speaking from marketized perspective and other Mets fans 539 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 5: in their lives, like it just didn't really ever seem 540 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 5: like he was someone that was ready to make a 541 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 5: big gamepack in this game and multiple times who's thrust 542 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 5: into being one of the most quintessential players in it. 543 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: What's that saying the ball finds you, the ball always 544 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: find like I mean, for a Braves fans perspective, Sure, 545 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: people yelling at their at their phones right now listening 546 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: to us, it's been Orlando RCA for the Braves for 547 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: the last like two weeks. Who's probably their worst hitter. 548 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: It feels like every time they have a big ad 549 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: bad it's him, and he's been a disaster. So we 550 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: identify with you in solidarity on that one. 551 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: Suppose at least I'll say this about sever Reno. I 552 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: didn't think he actually pitched as bad like that one 553 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: inning where he got away from him. It was a 554 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: swinging bunt by Orlando that ended up as an error. 555 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure the air was his fault. His 556 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: catcher got in the way as he was trying to 557 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: throw it. And then you know, Michael hit a rope 558 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: double that was a real hit. But then after that, 559 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: like Ozzie had a broken bat, little ground ball single, 560 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: Loreano had a broken back ground ball single. You know, 561 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 2: he didn't get like crushed. You know, Michael came back 562 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: and hit the homer off of that after that. But 563 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, I didn't think sever I thought Severino 564 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: looked better and pitched better than maybe his line is 565 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: gonna end up. You know, it looks like he gave 566 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: up four runs and four innings and didn't pitch great. 567 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: I will say the Braves did a really good job 568 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: of getting his pitch count up. They laid off a 569 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: lot of those sweepers, which to me was the key 570 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 2: to the game. The Braves have so many right handed, 571 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: right handed hitters in their lineup that I was really 572 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: worried about that sweeper. That fastball sweeper combo just devastating 573 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: them all night long, and they were They were able 574 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: to lay off it quite a bit tonight, and he 575 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: got his pitch down up. He was at like eighty 576 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: something pitches in the fourth inning. I thought that was 577 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: I actually thought that was a bigger key to the 578 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 2: game than the couple the runs the Braves scored, because 579 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: again I don't think sever Reno pitched as bad as 580 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: maybe some of those hits made it look. 581 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we kind of got a Spencer Strider 582 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: there a little bit. We got a couple couple of 583 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: soft hits that dropped like he didn't have his command. 584 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: And I'm sure James will give us some more numbers 585 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 4: here on, like his whiffs and stuff like that. But 586 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 4: overall wasn't a good start, but it also wasn't a 587 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 4: bad start, if that makes any sense. 588 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, this has kind of been the issue with sever Reno, 589 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 5: not the issue because he's had a tremendous season. He's 590 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 5: been one of the reasons, the main reason that's even 591 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 5: in this position. But I'm saying this to Mark and 592 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 5: on our show for a few weeks now, Severrino, just 593 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 5: as we got to this point in the season, has 594 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 5: no bag against the lefties. And I could feel immediately 595 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 5: in that first that bat of the game to Michael Harris, 596 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 5: it was he had him down one two immediately and 597 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 5: it got to be like an eight to nine pitch 598 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 5: at bat, and it was just fastball after fastball after fastball. 599 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 5: He didn't really seem to trust any of his other 600 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 5: pitches against the lefties. He even threw one change in 601 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 5: this game, and overall, he only threw three pitches that 602 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 5: weren't forcing fastballs to lefties the entire game, and two 603 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: of those three came against Michael Harris. And one of 604 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 5: those three was a cover that Keith Hernandez lamented on 605 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 5: the broadcast, didn't cut it all, just spun right up 606 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 5: the top of his own and that was the one 607 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 5: Harris laced for the double for the first run of 608 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 5: the game. So while again it felt like Seavy got 609 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 5: babbitped a lot, that that hit by Lariano, I'll never 610 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 5: I'll never comprehend to that ball made to the outfield, 611 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 5: rolling off his bat, kind of hitting it twice, but 612 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 5: in fact that he's hit. Yeah, this happened the Mets 613 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 5: Phillies game last weekend too, and Citizens Bank Park, where 614 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 5: by the time Severgno got to his third that back 615 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 5: against Bryce Harper, he just he seemed to have nothing left. 616 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: Harper homard off the change up, throw one more change 617 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 5: up the rest of that game, and then he's just 618 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 5: kind of stuck throwing these fastballs over and over and 619 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 5: over against the lefties, and if you can't put those 620 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 5: in precise spots against this caliber of hitters, which he couldn't, 621 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 5: and these hithers are great. Eventually, guys are gonna ful 622 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 5: pitches off like Harris did over and over again. Olsen 623 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 5: did too in that first rally until you get that hit, 624 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 5: and it's just it was exactly what happened. It was 625 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 5: exactly because I was terrified love. 626 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was. 627 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 4: It was definitely not the best for Severino. Of course, 628 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 4: Michael Harris being one of those lefties you couldn't get out. 629 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: I'll let the Braves guys talk about him a little 630 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 4: bit more, but first we have another quick break. 631 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. 632 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 7: You know what doesn't make sense. Nasal hygiene isn't often 633 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 7: part of our everyday routines, and it should be. Enter 634 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 7: Navage Nasal Care. It's a game changer, Scottie. Give us 635 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 7: the play by play, please, Kratz. 636 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 8: Navage uses smooth saline flow and gentle patented nasal section 637 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 8: and clear nasal passages and it works fast. 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I don't even 654 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: I guess you could argue Swallow Black versus Harris as 655 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: to who was the hero of the game in this one. 656 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: They were probably one A in one B. But Michael 657 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: Harris has been basically out of his mind for about 658 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: two weeks and unfortunately for the Mets, that kind of 659 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: came to fruition in this one. He has five hote 660 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: runs in the last seven games. He was three for 661 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: three tonight to open the game and he had the 662 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: fantastic diving catch in the fifth inning that was kind 663 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: of like a hat tip moment as the best guys 664 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: shake their heads as I'm saying this, But no, I mean, 665 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: and look, the Braves have had this up and down, 666 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: weird season as far as like who's been hot, who's 667 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: not been and they're so banged up, all those things 668 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: that we talked about a number of times. But it's 669 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: been Matt Olson at at the forefront and Michael Harris 670 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: is now like basically being their second star last couple 671 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: of weeks. I don't know what you've seen, Steve, but 672 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: it feels like that's a game changing thing for Atlanta 673 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: in the moment, and the timing of that is obviously 674 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: very nice considering how good he was tonight. 675 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, our fans will know. We've talked about this all 676 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: year that Matt Olsen is the key to this team 677 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: because they have so many right handed hitters and right 678 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: handed pitching can be a real problem for them. That's 679 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: why I was worried about Severino tonight because they're just 680 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: so right handed, and Matt Olsen has had an up 681 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: and down year. He's certainly not had the year he 682 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: had last year, but he's been red hot for about 683 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: two months, and then Michael Harris has been red hot 684 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: for about two weeks now, and those being the two 685 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: basically only two lefties in the Braves lineup, those guys 686 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: are critical against guys like Savarina. Like you said, guys 687 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: like him have trouble with lefties. But the Braves just 688 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: don't have a ton of lefties. You know, Jared Kelnick 689 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: has had a really disappointing second half. He's basically been 690 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: benched for Ramon Loreano, who's a right hander. So the 691 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: only two lefties the Braves had. Ozzy Obviy's is back, 692 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 2: but he's only betting right handed, So literally the only 693 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: two lefties the Braves have are Michael Harris and Matt Olsen. 694 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: And so when they play a guy like Severino, who 695 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: who can struggle with lefties, at the time, they're critical, 696 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: and tonight I thought they were, you know, I thought 697 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: they had some of the best at bats in the game, 698 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: Michael Harris specifically. You know, when those those two guys go, 699 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: and again, the people that listen to our show, we 700 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: talked about this all year, especially Matt Olsen, when those 701 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: guys go, the Braves are just so much more balanced. 702 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: They can hit righty's as well as they hit lefties. 703 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: And tonight was you know, tonight was a perfect example 704 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: of that. Olson and Harris both put up grade at 705 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,239 Speaker 2: bat after great at bat. Even though even Thoughlsen only 706 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: had one hit, he had a walk, he was in 707 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: three two counts all night. It's part of getting Severino's 708 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: pitch count up. Like those two guys had the best 709 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: at bats of the night. And when that's the case 710 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: for the Braves, they their their lineup goes to a 711 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: different level. 712 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's crazy. 713 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: One of the reasons to watch on the go Ahead, 714 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, one of the reasons to watch 715 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: on YouTube is to get the reaction that you guys 716 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: had to Jered Kelnick's name being messed on the podcast. 717 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: If you if you were only listening, you should be. 718 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: You should just to see what the mesa. It was incredible. Yeah. 719 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: No, uh, definitely not a pro jake like podcasts over here. 720 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: And I'm still waiting for him to hurt us, like 721 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 4: he hasn't heard us yet. I'm waiting for it. It's 722 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 4: gonna happen at some point in our lifetime. He's gonna 723 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 4: do something that is unforgivable as a Mets fan. But yeah, 724 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 4: it's just like annoying too, because really, like the bottom 725 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: of the order got a couple hits, they got on 726 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 4: base a couple of times, but it was frustrating to 727 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: be beat by the top of the order when we 728 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 4: know that's the only thing that can really hurt us, 729 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 4: like Giovanni Roschell, like these guys may have moments for 730 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: the Braves, but to not be able to get Giovanni 731 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 4: Orchell and Ramon Loreano and Orlando Arcia out as easy 732 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 4: as they should be for the quality of player they 733 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 4: are as compared to the top of the order. It 734 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 4: was just like such a frustrating game to watch from 735 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: the Mets fans side, And I know, like the conversation 736 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 4: is gonna be it's happening again. The Mets are doing 737 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 4: it again, like it's it's all starting to snowball, and 738 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: it feels like it's so much on our shoulders right now. 739 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: But the same time, like I gotta say. 740 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: It just felt like the Met's had to hit, Like 741 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, as bad things could 742 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 4: have been on the pitching side, you just have to hit. 743 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: And the bats simply didn't show up. I just hope 744 00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: they do. 745 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 4: They've been so great it would be like ridiculous for 746 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: Mets fans us anyone in general to just count this 747 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: team out right now because the Bats had one off 748 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: night when they've been putting up numbers against all these 749 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 4: other teams all year long. 750 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 5: Totally, that's that's just the drama of Mets fans, Like 751 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 5: we came on here dooman gloom the beginning, but by 752 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 5: the time tomorrow rolls around, when I wake up, I'm 753 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 5: be fully ready to dive back in again and have 754 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 5: all the hope in the world. It's just the bitty 755 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 5: little bit of frustration war. It's his war. It's only 756 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 5: just because you lose the bowts does not mean you 757 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 5: lose the war. That's that's a famous setting back there. 758 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 5: But it was a little bit of the fact that 759 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 5: this team just wasn't necessarily sharp at times, like when 760 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 5: that missed that ball was misplayed by the combination of 761 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 5: Alvarez Severino, really just Alvarez getting in Luis Averregno's way 762 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 5: on that Orlando Arcia dribbler that starts spurning the rally 763 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 5: in the third inning. It was just like, oh, man, 764 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 5: like this defense has been so good for weeks now. 765 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 5: I think that's been one of the mets under unheralded 766 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 5: calling cards. This amazing hot few months have been on 767 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 5: has been defense, which is always a huge backbone of 768 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 5: David Sterearn's Milwaukee teams back in the day. So the 769 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 5: fact that there was that misplay and then the flood 770 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 5: gates immediately opened and there were three straight that bats 771 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 5: fore a guy reached second base and there was not 772 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 5: an out record. You're like, okay, this is something that 773 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 5: was just hasn't hasn't happened yet, and then you guys 774 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 5: make Samaras on the other side, Orlando or Cia misplayed 775 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 5: a few balls and both times the Mess just couldn't 776 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 5: seem to get that big hit to do anything about it, 777 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 5: and it was Pilanzo once again in a game not 778 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 5: getting a big hit. 779 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: This year. 780 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 5: We talked about Marte before. Jesse Winger did not have 781 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 5: very many good at that today and we kind of 782 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 5: needed him as a guy like Schwelling back just again 783 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 5: just ran through us like a hot knife, hot knife 784 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 5: through brother and just oh, it's just there was so 785 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 5: many little moments the Mess could have gone back in 786 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 5: the game and we just couldn't get you, guys to 787 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 5: even break that sweat, even have that a little bit 788 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 5: of stress that you can carry the momentum into the 789 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 5: next day. And that was what continue to frustrate me 790 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 5: so badly. 791 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: It does seem to come out like when that that 792 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: little moment of stress is the way you It's great 793 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: that you put it that way, because it didn't really 794 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: happen like they were. It was like one little thing 795 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: away from that happening in this game. Once the lead 796 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: was built it you never had that panic moment. You 797 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: never had that that one played appearance where it's like, 798 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: all right, this might be the game right here. Because 799 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: the lead was semi comfortable. It Braves gone probably timely 800 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: all the way through, and yeah the Mets got went across, 801 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: but it was already five to nothing. You're still within 802 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: four and the bravest bullpen has been knocked on wood 803 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: lights out this year. So it didn't feel that nervy 804 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,239 Speaker 1: in the moment, but there, you're right there. There were 805 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: several times where it was maybe one at bat, one 806 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: misplay away from getting interesting in a way that we 807 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: didn't want it to be on our side of things. 808 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: But obviously the Mets would have been probably feeling because 809 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: they have been playing so well for so long. I'm 810 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: sure there is an inherent confidence in that clubhouse right 811 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: now that like, hey, we're losing, we're winning every night basically, 812 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: and there's some of that just vibe that could kind 813 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: of settle in, which is why I was so big 814 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: the brain struck first and led this one to kind 815 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: of not give them that extra fuel that I'm sure 816 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: they already have kind of deep down for how it 817 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: hap it been? 818 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll say this like I was. I was 819 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: obviously been doing a lot of research about the Mets, 820 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: knowing that we were going to do this show. And 821 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: if you told me that the Mets were going to 822 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 2: have the year that they're having and you just said, 823 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: how is it going to happen? I would have told 824 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: you that Pete Alonso went nuts for a year, and JD. 825 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: Martinez went nuts for a year, and Lindor went nuts, 826 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: and Brandon Nemo went nuts, and you actually like and 827 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: like Francisco Alvarez, I would have assumed he was having 828 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: just a monster season and you actually look at like 829 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: what's happened. It's been very different than I would have expected, 830 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: Like Jad Martinez has had a very average year. Pete Alonzo, 831 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: by here standards, has had a very average year. Francisco Alvarez, 832 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: I think it's had a pretty average year. It's been 833 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 2: guys like Vientto's obviously, Lindor is incredible, you know, the 834 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 2: pitching come out of nowhere to be awesome. Like, it's 835 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 2: been much different. I don't know how Mets fans feel. 836 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: I'd be interest to hear y'all's perspective. But when I 837 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 2: was doing the research of the team for the year, 838 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: how good you guys have been. The how it's actually 839 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: you know, how it's actually played out has been very 840 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: different than I would have guessed if you asked me 841 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: in March. You know, if this team was going to 842 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: be a playoff team, how it was gonna happen. I 843 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 2: don't think I would have picked how it's happened so 844 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: far in twenty twenty four. 845 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what's been really great about this Mets team, 846 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 4: And again just a reassuring thing for the gloom and 847 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 4: doom Mets fans out there maybe listening to this in 848 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: our massachiser, Like, let me hear forty five minutes about 849 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 4: how we just lost to the Braves after I just 850 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 4: watched that game. The team has stepped Like we said earlier, 851 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 4: guys have stepped up to different points, like brand Nemo 852 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 4: had a point this year where at the All Star 853 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 4: break thought I should have made the team. He went 854 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 4: absolutely nuclear he was discussing peel A. Lonzo's had some 855 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 4: big moments where he's gotten hot. A couple of weeks 856 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 4: ago he was on fire. Alvarez, like even Luis an 857 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: hell Acunya stepping up this last week for In Francisco, 858 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 4: Lindor's absence has been so huge it's just about now, 859 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 4: who's gonna be next? 860 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: Can they do this all together? We really only got 861 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 3: like a week or two. 862 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: It feels like of where the entire lineup was just 863 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 4: so hot when we were playing the Rangers and we 864 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 4: had a little bit that West Coast trip where they 865 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 4: were just swinging the bats so well. But as a whole, 866 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 4: it hasn't happened yet, and guys like Jade Martinez Jesse 867 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 4: Winker has been a little bit cold. It feels like 868 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 4: the last few days need those guys to really step 869 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 4: up if we want a chance to end the Brave 870 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 4: Series season this week. If those games even get played, 871 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 4: and it also felt like maybe this was the first 872 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 4: time since the Lindor in that it felt like we 873 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 4: actually physically missed him. 874 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and another big thing is that JD Martinez, going 875 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 5: completely invisible over the last two weeks is now in 876 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 5: a game like this where Stoling Marte hits third and 877 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 5: fails in multiple key spots, that's where you can feel 878 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 5: a detriment a tweet when like semi Viral and metz 879 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 5: Twiler yesterday that show the Daniel Vogelback and JD Martinez 880 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 5: side by side and then one few were at bat 881 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 5: as Mets, Daniel Vogelback had a higher batting average, higher 882 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 5: on base percentage, and a higher slucking percentage than JD 883 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 5: Martinez has done this year. So while JD's had some 884 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 5: amazing moments and his impact on this team I think 885 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 5: has been tremendous pass what he's done on the field, 886 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 5: his tutelage of Mark Fiento's mainly sticking out. It just 887 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 5: him disappearing when they really need the most op for 888 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,479 Speaker 5: his last thirty two or thirty three at this point 889 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 5: is bad and you feel that trickled down because then 890 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 5: this Mets line just gets a little bit shorter, and 891 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 5: when the Mets line doesn't get shorter because Carls Mendez 892 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 5: is very reactionary. He likes to flip guys around all 893 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 5: the time. If you get these like kind of dips 894 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 5: instead of this like okay, after the seven hit there, 895 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 5: everything falls off like what most teams wind up as. 896 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 5: But now you have a situation where, like in a 897 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 5: game for the Mets, they're two, three, four, and five hitters, 898 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 5: zero hits, like you just can't have that. And then 899 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 5: you get these little pieces of news about Lendois's little 900 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 5: crumbs left by the beat report. There's about Lindor's running, 901 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 5: Lindora's taking batting practice more aggressively. Then there was that 902 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 5: bizarre tweet from Steve Gelbs, like the fifth inning, when 903 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 5: it was five to nothing, Lindor has emerged from the 904 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 5: clubhouse wearing cleats instead of sneakers, Like what is this? 905 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 5: Is this a fairy tale character that's going on? And 906 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 5: then you look on the other side and you see 907 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 5: the Braves. We're two hours before this game, they announced 908 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 5: that their best player that could have possibly returned this year, 909 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 5: Austin Riley, was officially out. The hand wasn't healing the 910 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 5: right way, and it's just like we the Mets kind 911 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 5: of kind of pushed themselves motivate themselves more in these 912 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 5: little emotional things, more in like the power of friendship, 913 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 5: like Mark and I say, sometimes more in these like fun, 914 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 5: happy dancy vibes where the Braves get the worst piece 915 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 5: of news they've gotten in a month and then they're 916 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 5: just like full steam ahead, let's beat the other team. 917 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: Well, and I'll say this that Braves fans I think 918 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 2: are pretty hardened to bad news at this point this year. 919 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: Like we wanted, right, we want I wanted Riley to 920 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 2: come back, and there was a there was certainly a 921 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: hope that he could. But in an honest moment, I 922 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: don't think many Braves fans actually expected him to be back. 923 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 2: I mean, it would have been fantastic, But like when 924 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: I saw the news today, and Brad, I'll let Brad 925 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: talk about this too. When I saw the news today, 926 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I mean that's kind of that's 927 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 2: just kind of what I thought it. It wasn't like 928 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: a crushing blow, you know, when we got the news 929 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: at first that he had broken the wrists or the 930 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 2: ham or whatever it is. That was the crushing blow 931 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: the idea that he is not going to come back. Now. 932 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: You know, what you guys are dealing with with Lindor 933 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: is more of a daily drama than what we're dealing 934 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 2: with with Riley, at least my perspective, because for me, 935 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: like Riley, I've just kind of counted him out for 936 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: most of the for the rest of the year anyways, 937 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 2: and if he came back, great, But you know, obviously 938 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: with Lindor, it's it's it's it's just completely up in 939 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 2: the air every day. You guys have no idea what 940 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: it's going to be. 941 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, if we had done our regular Braves only shows 942 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: and I would have spent fifty man, it's on Riley probably, 943 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: and it is what it is. But you're right that 944 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: it did seem like we were all holding our breath. 945 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: But it was like, maybe he can come back at 946 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: the earliest for the Royal Series and be maybe diminished 947 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. It was like we were holding out 948 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: for Austin Rally to be Austin Riley at all Capitol letters. 949 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: He's been out for so long and there was the 950 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: expectation it was like going to be close the whole time. 951 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: So it's not as gut punchy as any of the 952 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 1: other injuries have been the big ones. But yeah, as 953 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: Lindor is about to come back, and look, I'm obviously 954 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: would be easier for the Braves to win if Leonard 955 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: didn't play. I love Lindor Rocks. I mean, it's not 956 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: popular to say that he's awesome. He's very very good. 957 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: If he wants to come back on Friday, that's probably 958 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: better for the Braves. But alas we'll know, all right, 959 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: we'll have more to kind of spin forward on the 960 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: rest of this series, provided it happens on time, as 961 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 1: we teased earlier. But first it word from our guys 962 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: at fel Territory. 963 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 8: All right, this one's for the dudes. You know how 964 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 8: scary it can get when you're gone for a close 965 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 8: shave below the belt, and that's why FT Trusts manscaped 966 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 8: for those sensitive areas. 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Hope to 991 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 4: get the game in a schedule. Steven, it sounds like 992 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 4: you are going to be sitting in the rain tomorrow 993 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 4: waiting for this game to never happen. 994 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 2: That's right, Poncho season, Like Brad says, poncho season. 995 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: But I was looking at weather. 996 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 5: I was looking at weather Ports today and there was 997 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 5: a line that I tweeted from ACU Weather that's a 998 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 5: potential for life threatening flooding. Have you guys, like just 999 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 5: living in the Atlanta area, taken any precautions for what 1000 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 5: could be allegedly be this kind of cataclysmic grainstorm ahead? 1001 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: Oh boy, that that sounds stronger than I would have thought. 1002 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 1: But I did see that tweet from you. I had 1003 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: a bit of a chuckle and more of that like 1004 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: nervous chuckle. You know, it's like, all right, hopefully not 1005 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: life threatening for not always Steven who will be in 1006 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: the building, but even for me at home. I don't 1007 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: really want to deal with life threading flooding in my life. 1008 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I think we're in agreement. It 1009 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: seems like that it's probably not gonna happen tomorrow. Should 1010 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: we talk about the game as if it's going to happen? 1011 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: Should we preview? Chris Sale and David Peters, I don't know, 1012 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: do you want to talk about the matchup at all? 1013 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 3: Or it's like just kind of put the Braves have 1014 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 3: the advantage. Chris Sales better than David Peterson. 1015 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: That is, that is accurate. Chris Chris salees pretty good. 1016 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: Chris sale is the so young front runner for a reason. 1017 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: And by the way, an extra day of rest. He 1018 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: didn't look his one hundred percent best self in his 1019 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: last start, which I think we probably understand was the 1020 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: reason he didn't pitch today, is that they wanted to 1021 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: give him a extra day to kind of get it 1022 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: together and get you know, he's old, he has a 1023 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: pitches spanning, he's in a long time. But I say 1024 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: that every time he's had a little bit of like 1025 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: a misstep this year, the next start's been absolutely lights out. 1026 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: So if this game happens, I expected to be good. 1027 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: Maybe it'll be a three to two game, and we'll 1028 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: see which way that goes. But I, as I mentioned earlier, 1029 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 1: the brains has been awesome when he pitches, and that's 1030 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: not only because of him, but it's. 1031 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 4: Mostly listen over here on the Messed Up podcast, who 1032 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 4: like to say the Braves have voodoo magic. I don't 1033 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 4: know what Anthopolis does over there. As a fellow Greek guy, myself. 1034 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 4: I know my Yaya had some secret powers that I 1035 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 4: haven't gotten passed down to me yet. 1036 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 3: But maybe he can just push the rain clouds away 1037 00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 3: a little bit, get. 1038 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 4: These games in and uh because I again, I can't 1039 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 4: wait until Monday for the rest of these games. 1040 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 3: I can't do. 1041 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 5: Waiting until seven twenty. Tonight was horrible, just fester all day. 1042 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: None of us want Monday. Nobody wants Monday on either team, 1043 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,439 Speaker 1: either podcast, either fan base. No one wants to deal 1044 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: with Monday with Basically, you know, it may not be 1045 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: winner take all by then there's a chance it gets 1046 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: settled before Monday if that happens. But we all know 1047 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. If it happens on Monday, it's gonna 1048 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: mean everything. It's gonna be the whole season on Monday. 1049 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: If that's what happens, we all know it. 1050 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 5: I will imagine. 1051 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 2: I will say this the Diamondbacks, like the diamond Backs 1052 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 2: could just the diamond Backs could just wet the bed 1053 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 2: all week. 1054 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: That's why I brought it up. And it may it 1055 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: may not matter on Monday. 1056 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 4: Maybe you guys are nice guys, but I don't want 1057 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 4: the Braves to make the playoffs. 1058 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 3: So I'm hoping it's the Diamondbacks. 1059 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: I understand as long as the So yeah, there all week, 1060 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 2: so that could happen. Like these games might not matter. 1061 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 2: I mean, they probably will because that's how it goes. 1062 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: But there's a chance, like the Diamondbacks have not been 1063 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 2: playing well, Like they got that horrible loss on Sunday, 1064 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: they lost last night, they got Logan Webb tonight. 1065 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: I don't mean that, I don't I don't mean to 1066 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: go live spoil, but they if you guys haven't seen, 1067 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 1: they're currently down seven to nothing in the third inning. 1068 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: Now that may change. They just they just blew it. 1069 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 1: Eate nothing lead. Was that yesterday? 1070 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1071 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 1: Ate nothing lead or yesterday or Sunday one of those games, 1072 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: So nothing's safe. But they're not seven nothing in the 1073 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 1: third ending right now as we're talking. 1074 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, just have to shut out Mets legend 1075 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 5: Michael Confour though the four hundred and twenty five foot 1076 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 5: home run for the second time and two nights against 1077 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 5: the Diamondbacks to push this ahead. But there's a chance. 1078 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 5: I have all four of these teams over like a 1079 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 5: very minuscule two week sample. It seems like that Diamonbacks 1080 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 5: team might be playing relatively the worst ball, So yeah, 1081 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 5: maybe the series winds up being nothing. But I think 1082 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 5: that even the series winds up being nothing, there's something 1083 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 5: inside of all the Mets fans right now, and I'm 1084 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 5: sure all of the Mets players where you won't really 1085 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 5: feel that satisfied unless you get over this hump and 1086 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 5: can beat this Braves team, because there's no there's almost 1087 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 5: there's no joy in victory without it, even if you 1088 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 5: make the playoffs and loose these games. 1089 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean I know us as Mets fans, 1090 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 4: we definitely have a different perspective these next couple of 1091 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 4: games coming up here. Me and James are not typically 1092 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 4: gloom and doom Mets fans. I don't think we even 1093 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 4: are right now. I think we're gonna be completely fine 1094 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 4: as soon as we stop finishing recording this and wake 1095 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 4: up tomorrow morning and it's whatever is going on in 1096 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 4: New York City. But yeah, I mean, this has been 1097 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 4: a really good crossover episode with Hamburg Territory and Mets up. 1098 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 4: We want to know your guys' final thoughts, how how high, 1099 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 4: how much better do you guys feel after seeing tonight's 1100 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 4: game as opposed to coming into tonight. 1101 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 1: I'll go first. I think that obviously, just the sheer 1102 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: math of that, you gotta feel much better, especially with 1103 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: sale wind up the next day whenever that happens. At 1104 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: the same time, my rational brain, I'm a little bit 1105 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: more of a pessimistic doomsday er than some The brands 1106 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: are still behind in this. In this, not in the series, 1107 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: but in the overall picture of things. They still have 1108 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: to win at least one of the next two, and 1109 00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: even if they win one of the next two, they're 1110 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: still gonna be behind the Mets. So the pressures in 1111 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: my mind still, Like we start this conversation, I think 1112 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 1: that there's the pressure is still on the Braves. It's 1113 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: maybe lessened by the win today. They don't now have 1114 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: to be perfect the next two days, but they do 1115 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: have to at least get one, and preferably by all accounts, 1116 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 1: they gotta get both. So I feel better, but I 1117 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,479 Speaker 1: don't feel good, if that makes sense. 1118 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never feel good about anything. I mean, I'm gonna. 1119 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 5: Nuts. 1120 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 9: That does sound like Steven unbelievable, But like, if you've 1121 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 9: like what we've gone through in the postseason the last 1122 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 9: couple of years, just getting dog walked by the Phillies 1123 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 9: two times in a row. 1124 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 2: Off teams, the Falcons are the Falcons. The Hawks are 1125 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 2: like Alan fans. 1126 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 3: Oh so sorry for. 1127 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a level of always kind of dread, 1128 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,479 Speaker 2: and that's what Brad's talking about a little bit about 1129 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 2: you know, he's always kind of not always, but we're 1130 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 2: we're both a little bit more pessimistic than some. But 1131 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 2: I do feel better. I mean I once the game 1132 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 2: was over, I felt better. Of course, having Sail tomorrow. 1133 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 2: I mean, if the game gets played. We don't know 1134 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 2: if the game is gonna get played, but having Saale 1135 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: tomorrow is probably what I feel most comfortable about, just 1136 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,919 Speaker 2: because he's he's Chris Sale. He's gonna win the side 1137 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 2: young like you know, the Braves just play extremely well 1138 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 2: when he pitches, So I feel great about that whenever 1139 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 2: that game gets played. Yeah, I guess I probably. I 1140 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 2: guess we probably are feel a lot better than you guys. 1141 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 2: You guys are obviously dealing with some demons from the 1142 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: past for coming to the truest park and losing games 1143 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: that the Braves fans don't have to deal with. So yeah, well, 1144 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 2: I mean after this win and night, having Sailed tomorrow. 1145 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 2: I think we're definitely feeling better than you guys are 1146 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 2: at the moment. 1147 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, just wondering, now, how many consecutive division titles does 1148 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 5: a fan base need to feel to be confident? Because 1149 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 5: is it seventeen? Is it eighteen? 1150 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 2: Like? 1151 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,760 Speaker 5: What actually had to have happened your guys lifetime streaks 1152 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 5: over Now from this perspective, I can't even comprehend the 1153 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 5: things that you're saying of not feeling. 1154 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 3: Mets fans were different kind of stick in the head. 1155 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but understand have had so many postseason blow ups like, oh. 1156 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 5: No, we make the playoffs every year and don't win 1157 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 5: the World Series. 1158 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 2: You know what, I like you guys, don't It doesn't matter. 1159 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 3: Guys. 1160 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,800 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for listening to this crossover episode 1161 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 4: between Hammer Territory and Mets Up. 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