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Speaker 1: give them a real shot to advance of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And now the scheduling gods give them the Jaguars at

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Speaker 1: two and twelve, Mark Sessler and also uh with a

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Speaker 1: new interim coach and a quarterback who has never looked

430
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Speaker 1: less safe. Yeah, I think this. Uh, there's a very

431
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Speaker 1: interesting dynamic here. I went back and watched Doug Maroons

432
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Speaker 1: presser that came after all the nonsense with David Caldwell

433
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Speaker 1: talk about Blake Bortles and Doug Maron. We know this

434
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Speaker 1: about when he was in Buffalo. He is very Uh,

435
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Speaker 1: he isn't He has his own opinions and he's gonna

436
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: let you know and it might not fit with the

437
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Speaker 1: people around him. He talks specifically about he's going to

438
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Speaker 1: come in and do certain things differently than Gus Bradley,

439
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just coach speak or something. It was

440
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 1: sounded like discord with the way things have been done.

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Speaker 1: This is the guy that thought he would have been

442
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Speaker 1: a head coach right after, you know, ditching Buffalo. I

443
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Speaker 1: want to see what that is. I think we've got

444
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Speaker 1: two weeks to to see if there's anything different about

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Speaker 1: this team with Doug Maron at the helm. But Tennessee, man,

446
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: you look at some of these teams late in the

447
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: season where they have this team X is heading towards

448
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, but they haven't. Their record against winning teams

449
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: is one in five or one in three. The Titans

450
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: five and two against winning teams. I love the way

451
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Speaker 1: they're built. And this is not a trap game on

452
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Speaker 1: any level in my book. I think Tennessee last week's game,

453
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Speaker 1: that's where the collapse maybe could have started. If you're

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Speaker 1: going to lose that and then have to kind of

455
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Speaker 1: vy your way back in. You have this game, you're

456
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Speaker 1: eight and six. You gotta take care of business in Jacksonville.

457
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: That shouldn't be a tough operation for anyone heading towards January.

458
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Speaker 1: Then you have the Texans at home next week. This

459
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Speaker 1: is your a f C South winner. In my book,

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Speaker 1: I think the Jags are trapped proof. I think they're

461
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Speaker 1: one of those teams the short list think that they're

462
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Speaker 1: on that even if you do bring your b r

463
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Speaker 1: C game, you'll probably still find a way to win

464
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Speaker 1: the game. The team winning three games a year is

465
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Speaker 1: not trapped. Is not a classic trap team. No, And

466
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Speaker 1: they're in these games. I mean, they were way up

467
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Speaker 1: on Houston. They've been competitive. When I'm thinking when I'm

468
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Speaker 1: hearing that about Moron, I'm thinking, maybe he's gonna run

469
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Speaker 1: the ball more. I mean, he is an offensive coach

470
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Speaker 1: and and Gus Bradley is not so much. And yet

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Speaker 1: I'm not I wouldn't be too worried. The Titans defense

472
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Speaker 1: playing better lately. The Titans defense can win some games

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Speaker 1: for them on their own. I mean they kind of.

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Speaker 1: They held on held the Broncos scoreless late in that game.

475
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Speaker 1: They held the Chiefs scoreless in the second half. The

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Speaker 1: defense has been playing, they get some good pressure. I

477
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Speaker 1: think that, like you know, Dick lebo is this sort

478
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Speaker 1: of X factor that has got them playing much better

479
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Speaker 1: on defense than they were a year ago. And don't

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Speaker 1: factor in, don't forget the factor in the possibility that

481
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Speaker 1: the Jacks could just lay down now for the rest

482
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Speaker 1: of the season. Here's from send Derrick Marks, the defensive

483
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Speaker 1: tackle Jacksonville, who spoke out about the team's decision to

484
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Speaker 1: fire Gus Bradley and then put him on the charter

485
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Speaker 1: back home. Yeah, that sucked. If I had an opinion

486
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Speaker 1: on it, I thought that was if I thought that

487
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Speaker 1: was the right move. I don't think that was the

488
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Speaker 1: right way to do it. He had to ride the

489
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Speaker 1: planet home back that way. But that ain't my call.

490
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: They did it. They made the move. Uh So the

491
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Speaker 1: locker room probably not feeling very good about the organization there.

492
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Speaker 1: Two and twelve. They're this close to getting to go

493
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Speaker 1: home and wipe this out of their memory. This could

494
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Speaker 1: be an easy win for Tennessee. Blake Bortles is talking

495
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Speaker 1: about turning the season around in the final two weeks,

496
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Speaker 1: using the final two weeks to show something positive for

497
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: that offense. Should think it's pretty funny too late. I

498
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: think it's funny that they have never considered benching him.

499
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Speaker 1: And if you read Albert Brier's Notes column on on

500
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Speaker 1: Friday or on Thursday, he talked about in August, Blake

501
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Speaker 1: Bortles told the coaches himself, I can't believe mike mechanics

502
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: are this bad. After he spent the offseason not working

503
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: on his mechanics, he told the coaches, I can't believe

504
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: my mechanics are this This is crazy. It's crazy and

505
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: it and it's almost the fruition of of West's year

506
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: long love for Tennessee. We're coming down to the wires

507
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Speaker 1: this draft class. They have Derrick Henry scores two tds,

508
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Jack Jack Conklin shuts down Justin Houston, Lashawn Simms. They

509
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Speaker 1: plug him in at cornerback. He's an upgrade on Parish Cox.

510
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: Austin Johnson was huge in their short yardage defense last week,

511
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: and Kevin by Artist safety. That's five draft picks that

512
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: are playing major minutes for them they wind up in

513
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Does the much laughed at Mike Malarkey nab

514
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Speaker 1: a few Coach of the Year votes. I think you

515
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Speaker 1: have to look at the also, by the way, executive

516
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: of the year maybe for John Robinson if that happens

517
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: to huge turnaround. I think there's a bigger case for

518
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Speaker 1: John Robinson than Mike malark And and I love that

519
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: they're using Henry Moore. I don't think de Marco Murray

520
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: looks quite as good as he did early in the season,

521
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: and and even if he did, it's nice Henry is

522
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: now in the mix really early and often in those games.

523
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm really dreading well Jackson was going to take a

524
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the first couple of rounds of the draft.

525
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: And then we get the four hundred stories in August

526
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: that Blake Bortle has worked with Tom House in the

527
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: off season straightened out everything that's wrong, and he says,

528
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Speaker 1: I haven't felt this good and since the two thousand

529
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: fifteen season it's coming well read. I mean, I think

530
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Speaker 1: it's healthy if we pick a few storylines that we

531
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Speaker 1: simply refuse to acknowledge that would be a candidate. They said,

532
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Speaker 1: can we just put that on the list just so

533
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: we have that written down somewhere. Refused to acknowledge list.

534
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: They smell like a Romo of Romo sooner interesting. Let's

535
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: Romo doesn't smell like a guy who has any interesting

536
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Speaker 1: playing for Jackson. I don't know if he's gonna have

537
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Speaker 1: a ton of good choices. Let's move on to the

538
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: NFC North, with the Minnesota Vikings now hanging on for

539
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: dear life at seven and seven after an awful thirty

540
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: four six home loss to the Cults where they just

541
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: looked dead in the water. Now they traveled to Green

542
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Speaker 1: Bay eight and six, Uh, playing very well, Uh, hung out,

543
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: hung on to beat Chicago with that beautiful toss from

544
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Speaker 1: Jordan from Aaron Rodgers to Jordy Nelson and Greg. Now

545
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: they get a chance to move to nine and six

546
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: and really turn the heat up on the Detroit Lions

547
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Speaker 1: who are holding on in that division. I'm I'm just

548
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: amazed how apt the Vikings defense was last week. I

549
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: know they're without Harrison Smith and now they're giving up

550
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: some big plays. And the last team you want to

551
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: play if you're giving up big plays is Aaron Rodgers

552
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: right now, because there there were some plays last week.

553
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: The Bears had the perfect call on Aaron Rodgers. They

554
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: had the free blitzer coming right at him and it

555
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: didn't matter. And when Aaron Rodgers is kind of beating

556
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: the perfect play calls, it's like there's nothing you can do.

557
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: He feels you mentioned the heat check last week, West

558
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: about Rogers. During that, he feels like a guy who

559
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: just it matters how he's feeling in the flow. You

560
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: know what, I mean like he's a streaky player, and

561
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: if he's feeling it, he's feeling it, and he's feeling it.

562
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: I think that's true for all quarterbacks, and most professional

563
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: you can almost see it with But I agree that

564
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, how confident he's feeling and being in

565
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: the zone really matters well. And he's a quarterback that

566
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Speaker 1: hasn't lost to December home game since two thousand and

567
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: eight and one at home in December where thirty nine

568
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: touchdowns and five picks. It is worth noting, though, that

569
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Speaker 1: Harrison Smith is practicing again and he will be in

570
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: this game, and they should have pride. They they've done

571
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: well in this matchup lately. Their defense. You know, it's

572
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: not like it's not like the Packers offense has done

573
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: particularly well against Mike Zimmer's defense. Generally, we'd be talking

574
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Speaker 1: even more about Rodgers this week. If if Davonte Adams

575
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Speaker 1: didn't drop a pair of easy touchdown passes and Jordy

576
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: Nelson dropped a bomb down the sideline where he had

577
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: to outleap the defender and he outliaked the defender with

578
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: ease and just dropped the ball, that those three plays

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Speaker 1: would have made Rogers numbers look totally different. By I

580
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: had some Packers Honker coming at me on Twitter saying like, oh,

581
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: Rodgers doesn't have the same weapons around him as as

582
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Speaker 1: some other m v P cannets. Are you kidding me?

583
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: He's got the best, he's got the best offensive line

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Speaker 1: in terms of past protection. He's got Jared Cook and

585
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: Adams and Nelson. I'm not worried about his weapons because

586
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: of December. Yes, his weapons are sparing. Check Let's go

587
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: back to October when he had protection. He had Don

588
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: what was his name, Don Jackson playing runner back, they

589
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: had a trade for Nile Davis. No, he had horrible

590
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: weapons for most of the year. You're a guy who

591
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Speaker 1: believes in looking at the whole season, not just December. Right, right,

592
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Speaker 1: his weapons were not goods no running but I'm saying,

593
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: all right, let's no running game, but you have a

594
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: great offensive line all season. You have Nelson, Adams, and

595
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: who wasn't compared to other teams that's not that obviously

596
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: wasn't himself before November. And you even heard Mike McCarthy

597
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: his comments in October where Geordy's not right, and then

598
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: by December he was like everyone can see he's back

599
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: to who he was. What's his problem, right? Jared Cook

600
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Speaker 1: injured earlier. By the way, Jared Cook, one of the

601
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: underrated key players. When he was in this offense was

602
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: in trouble, and when he's healthy, they're playing well. I'm

603
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: worried about a defense that gave up that many yards.

604
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews is basically not even there anymore. Damarius Randall

605
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: got got crushed last week. It's probably not gonna hurt

606
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: him this week. It's probably not gonna hurt him this week.

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00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: This a tweet from Maddie Harmon fantasy guru Downstairs Vikings

608
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: on deep passes with and without Harrison Smith. One touchdown,

609
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Speaker 1: five picks, four point seven pass rating with Harrison Smith. Uh,

610
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no picks, pointing without You can assign that

611
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: to Andrew Luck, who destroyed them with the deep ball

612
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: last week. UM let's move on the San Diego super

613
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Speaker 1: Chargers and Cleveland Browns, two teams playing out the string.

614
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: The Browns, though, are notable for one reason. We all

615
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: know what it is. They're oh and fourteen now and uh,

616
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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, this is the Browns again. We keep saying it,

617
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: but this probably is their best chance. It's against a

618
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Speaker 1: Chargers team going in the wrong direction. They're at it Spurg.

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Speaker 1: This is, in a lot of ways their last best chance,

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Speaker 1: any chance they avoid on Fish. I am not going

621
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: to patronize Browns fans and stead talk about any chance

622
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: of winning. This team has gotten so much worse throughout

623
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: the season. They're a laughing stock. Sorry, Mark, I know

624
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: you watched them play they I'm not giving them a

625
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: chance to win. San Diego is a better team. And

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Speaker 1: I know Philip Rivers. Everybody talks about his turnovers, his passing.

627
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: Last week, his accuracy was so on point. His receivers

628
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: were dropping balls. But I don't see Philip Rivers going

629
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Speaker 1: into the Cleveland and playing against r G three and losing.

630
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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. I mean, I I find r

631
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Speaker 1: G three incredibly frustrating to watch Um at best. I

632
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Speaker 1: think they yank him during this game, and you play

633
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler for the final six seven quarters of the year.

634
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: I don't understand the Griffin project slash experiment at this point.

635
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more with West that we've been through

636
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Speaker 1: the best case scenarios to win earlier this year have

637
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: not passed any of those tests. The Browns if you

638
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: want to give them, if I want to give Hugh

639
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: Jackson one bit of credit, I will say this watching

640
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: their games that I don't see players that are just

641
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: completely lifeless. I see guys that are still plugged in.

642
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: They just don't have talent in defense. I watched every

643
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: one of the snaps this season, and especially they have

644
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: never gotten over being the worst defensive league. They just

645
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 1: gave up four nine yards in twenty nine first downs

646
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: to Tyrod Taylor and a Bill's offense. It's got a

647
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: lot of limitations. I mean, they look like the best

648
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: offense in the league against I wonder if the Browns

649
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: are the one losing team in the league that you

650
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about them not giving full effort

651
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: at this point because every guy and someone just wrote

652
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: a piece about the Detroit Lions of two thousand eight.

653
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: How those guys. We don't want this Browns team to

654
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: feel what we had to feel and deal with. Uh,

655
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: these guys don't want Owen sixteen. I think that's a

656
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: huge motivator for everyone in the building. But secondly, this

657
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: is a team made up of young players that you

658
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: know they are fighting for their jobs. A huge motivator

659
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: though for the Chargers, and it's a huge motivator for

660
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: the Bills, and teams have talked about that. The Ravens

661
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: who gave the first win to to the Dolphins one

662
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: year when they were owing thirteen, they said all week,

663
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: that's that's on their mind. We do not want to

664
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: be the first team to do we are fired. And

665
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: by the way you want it, Mike, Mike McCoy, the

666
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: coach of the Chargers, you don't want you want to

667
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: make your case to keep your job. You can't go

668
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: into Cleveland and lose to the Browns. That's a good,

669
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: that's a good. They could get him fired. Throw out

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00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: prior twenty two yards on eleven targets from r G

671
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: three well and through an injury to right and also

672
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: but all all sorts, all sorts of passing has disappeared

673
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: with r G three. He runs to the sideline. He

674
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: froze forty yards down, slow in his decision, making everything

675
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: you can almost see like kind of the thought process

676
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: marks right, like why are you running to the sideline

677
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: every time? You drove every time? And it's there's no

678
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: middle of the you know, we don't, we don't need

679
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: to talk about the Browns anymore. How about if you're

680
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa and your defensive Rookie of the Year case

681
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: going up against this offensive line Melvin Ingram too, this

682
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: is a mismatch they It is strange because Cleveland I'm

683
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: looking at some analytics this week that they are like

684
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: the fourth best run offensive line in the league pass blocking.

685
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the issues on their quarterbacks,

686
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: but their offensive line has not been the disaster running

687
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: the ball. That said they can't run the ball. So

688
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, please um. By the way,

689
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where Brian Hartline has been, but he

690
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: becomes the latest guy to completely trash that Terrell Prior.

691
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: He didn't like him last year, and well they went

692
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: to school together at Ohio State. And another old teammate

693
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: of Tarrell Prior is Alex Boone in Minnesota, who said,

694
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: who said over the summer, I hated the guy, hated

695
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: playing with him. And I talked to somebody that knows

696
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: things that says the Browns are really hemming and hauling

697
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: about wanting to go further with him. I mean, okay,

698
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: I get it. The way that Terrell Prior has been

699
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: bashed by many people around the league. He might not

700
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: be the most popular player around, he might not be

701
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: that easy to get along with. Then again, as a

702
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: part time hobby, he's already better at wide receiver than

703
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: Brian Hartline has ever been. Brian Hartline said at one point,

704
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm a as a Cleveland Browns guy I'm looking out

705
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: for It's like, well, bro, you spent one year of

706
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: that team and then got cut. Now there was where

707
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: you're in their corner. You're cetainly a score here. There

708
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: were issues last year, and I you're right, we don't know.

709
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: We don't know what's going on with Tarll Prior, but

710
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: it's every week someone's coming out they would work. But

711
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Tarll Prior, I'll give him this, He's never shot back

712
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: at anyone in the press. That's why it's weird. He's

713
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: all the right things in the press, and then all

714
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: these people come out and say he's basically a terrible person.

715
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: And now, who know, the Browns might not want to

716
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: do business. We'll see. Let's move on the Washington Redskins

717
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: seven six and one. Uh, they really killed themselves on

718
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: Monday night with at home loss to the Panthers. Put

719
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: themselves in a bad spot where it's gonna be very

720
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: difficult to advance to the postseason for the second street year.

721
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: But they get a nice matchup but not marked by

722
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: any means, a walkover matchup against a three and eleven

723
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: Browns team. Bears team on the road with Matt Matt Barkley,

724
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: who has been playing very well this year. Agree with you.

725
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: I mean the Bears are heading upward. You gotta like

726
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: some of the players we talked about with rest With

727
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: West's Rookie of the Year list, I think there were

728
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: three on their including the honorable mentions category, and that's

729
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: a team that can point to the strong finish. Where

730
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: after what we saw Washington do against Carolina, I think

731
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: that this is an eight and eight team that is

732
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: as unpredictable as as there is at this point. And

733
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: it's in Chicago. I don't know what the weather is,

734
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: and I want to know, you know, if Jordan Read

735
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: doesn't play in this he in his last two games

736
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: he's had ten and nineteen snaps. I think he is

737
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: hovering towards sort of Jenga piece for that team. If

738
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: you don't have Jordan Read at full health, the he's

739
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: not not that he's not going to be anyways. But

740
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: the but the results for Kirk Cousins, Uh, they dip

741
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: and so you know, and in Washington is essentially removed

742
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: from the playoffs at this point. I know they're still alive,

743
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: but I'm wondering that team is very much alive. They're

744
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: alive if they if they win those two games, they're

745
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: probably in. I mean, I mean, where are they right now?

746
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: There are seven six and one, But if you get

747
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: to nine six and one, because of the other teams

748
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: playing each other, they don't need that much to happen

749
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: for them, their odds would be pretty good. If they

750
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: can win out. It's a big If they gotta play

751
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: the Giants next week, they gotta win a tough road game.

752
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: Really crumble though too. But I don't think the Redskins

753
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: look like a playoff team to me. You know what

754
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: they need They need the Lions to completely bomb go

755
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: nine and seven and then finished nine, which is very feasible. Uh.

756
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: Any other thoughts on this game, gentleman. I I respect

757
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: the way John Fox has had that team playing. They

758
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: are much better than a three, and it sounded like

759
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: they were ready to fire him in mid season. So

760
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he could do anything if that might

761
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: boil down to how well does he get along with

762
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: the front I think I think they want to make

763
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: a change, and the record is gonna let him do it.

764
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: But it's crazy that an offense with Matt Barkley, Cameron Meredith,

765
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: Deonte Thompson, Jordan Howard are better is better. It's not

766
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: a fluke. It's a better offense that a decent amount

767
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: of offenses out there. I mean, it's better offense than

768
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: Jacksonville certainly doing Jake Cutler with Alshon, Jeff Kevin White

769
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: and Matt Forte or whatever. Right, but there there's a

770
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: lot of offenses out there. You know, the Jets whatever,

771
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: it's like like they look like an NFL offen think

772
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: they've been about seven and it's seventy five yards. Became

773
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: better without Cutler and the points certainly are up to

774
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: Do you know what this offense reminds me of with

775
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley the two thousand and four team Brian Horrier

776
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: Brown's where everything is either play action or shotgun if

777
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: it works. I don't know about the staying power of that.

778
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley's ball placement has been very good Field has

779
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: been good. He is hard to sack and they protected

780
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: him well. But it's a lot of play action and

781
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: it's a lot of shotgun and I wonder what the

782
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: staying power is on that. Let's move on and talk

783
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: about the Atlanta Falcons nine and five have really taken

784
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: advantage of a soft part of their schedule and now

785
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,479
Speaker 1: they travel to Charlotte to face the six and eight Panthers, who,

786
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: as we just were talking about, they beat up on

787
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: the Redskins UH on Monday Night and this game Greg

788
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: reminds me their first matchup Week War, when the Falcons

789
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: really announced themselves as a true powerhouse offense. Matt Ryan

790
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: threw for five hundred yards. Julio Jones had three hundred

791
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: yards receiving. Julio Jones, speaking of which, are we going

792
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: to see him in this game? He will be back

793
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 1: and that three hundred yard game is the biggest reason

794
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: why he's still leading the NFL and receiving despite missing

795
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. And that's that's massive because this

796
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: is not an easy matchup against the Panthers defense, and

797
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: I think they're a better defense now than they were early.

798
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: And James Bradberry for all the slings and arrows that

799
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: they took for letting go a Norman, and it was

800
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: a strange move. He replaced them with a good player

801
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: in Bradberry that he Getleman hit on his second round pick.

802
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: He Bradberry looks like he's gonna certainly on a faster

803
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: track than Norman was early in his career. That was

804
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: a real roll of the dice too, replacing an all

805
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: pro corner. This the thing is, it'd be nice to

806
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: have him both. I think you should could have kept

807
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: Norman for one more season under the franchise tag and

808
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: try to win. But at least they got something there.

809
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: You were talking about the m v P race and

810
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: Tom Brady needs a big game. H Matt Ryany could

811
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: make the case too. A big game here, maybe closes

812
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: out strong and he really um fortifies his case and

813
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: the lot. When these guys played in Week four, this

814
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: was one of the biggest romps there was all season.

815
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan threw for five hundred plus yards and they

816
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: had a three hundred yard receiver. That's the Did you

817
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: just say that? I was staring at my laptop answering

818
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: an email. Uh. If people want to hear it again,

819
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: you just rewind and listen to what some of the

820
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: yards of the Bengals have in the second half way

821
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: believe it was thirty eight yards they had in Week

822
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: fifteen in a in a Week fifteen game. So this

823
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: offense is awesome. A year ago at this time we

824
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: sat here and wondered if Thomas dimitrov was out the door. Oh,

825
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: that's a good point. And since he brought Scott Pioli

826
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: on board to help look at their last two draft

827
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: classes two thousand fifteen, they give Vick Beasley, the NFL

828
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: sack leader, Tevin Coleman, part of the best backfield in

829
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: the NFL, Grady Jarrett, who was their best defensive line,

830
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: and that's two thousand fifteen. This year, Kiano Neil Dion Jones,

831
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: both in around the top ten rookies in the NFL,

832
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper at tight end, de Andre Campbell who plays

833
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps. They've turned this franchise around. And

834
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why they're nine and five and

835
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the NFC is because

836
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: their last two draft classes, did Thomas dimitrof crawled through

837
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: fours smelling foul. This because I don't think anybody ever

838
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: wanted to put Thomas Demitrof out there, because everybody likes

839
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Thomas de mitro He he did lose power, he he did, uh,

840
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: you know, he had to give up control of the ross.

841
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: And I believe that dan Quinn, who oddly has more

842
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: control than just about any head coach in the league.

843
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: So they kind of they kind of changed the structure,

844
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: and so they did kind of put him in his

845
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: place a little bit. I don't think he went all

846
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: the way, you know, into the or anything. I mean,

847
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: him and Peoli, though they've been tight for decades, they

848
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: started in Cleveland under Belichick together best, but they're they're

849
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: fashion horses. You might fit in within West. We knew

850
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: sort a clothing ensemble three of you, with his vegan

851
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: his veganism and his sort of like, I don't know,

852
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: very spiritual nama stay kind of attitude is more like

853
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: maybe we could be kind of a dimitrof. That's what

854
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: you kind of look like. PLA. I'll take that. West

855
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: today is wearing a button down. I would say it's

856
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit acid washed gray. It's not

857
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: that it's a little it's got the tattered it's a

858
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: little tattered, it's tight at the bottom. It's kind of

859
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: like a Ritchie Sambara eats uh Indiana Jones, and he

860
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: had a Jones book. It's working if you're a four

861
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: dollar shirt in l A, which means it's like I

862
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: don't know seven dollars in Middle America. It's the legit test.

863
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: Break it down. Was legit test for Atlanta. By the way,

864
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just count on this. South gets it, gets interested.

865
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: I think they're up to it. I confident, are you

866
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: I pick them to win? I'm pretty confident. Not as

867
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: are you that confident? You know what? Let's do? You

868
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: don't know what? Just picks? Let's fuck it up, so

869
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: agg Whenever West's voice hits that octave, it makes me

870
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: think of some of your younger knights outside Huckapoos when

871
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: somebody got out of line. Well get out here, we'll

872
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: strand this out in the lot. It's kind of like

873
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: that guy I was, you know, I was good buddies

874
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: with the owners. Sometimes you gotta play bouncer and protect

875
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: his interest. How many bar fights have you been engaged

876
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: in in your life? I haven't counted. I can't imagine.

877
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Let Emmy Lou Harris is better than Lucin to Williams.

878
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I love both of them.

879
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: I would not have that. I'm gonna set the over

880
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: under Mark and Gregg, and then you could say what's

881
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: correct the over under for do we want to say

882
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: his entire life or huck a Poo's specifically, how at

883
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: hucka poos till now? Because now gets you nothing? Anyways,

884
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm too old to be in a bar fight now,

885
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: all right? So in his time at Huckapoos, which was

886
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: what two or three years? Eight years? Eight seven and a

887
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: a half year, so eight alright, seven and a half years.

888
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to put the bar fight count at I'm

889
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: gonna set it at four and a half. I don't know.

890
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: I well, okay, wait is this over under? I don't

891
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: want to uh, I don't know. Get taggle, you know,

892
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: haggle with the definition of what a fight would be.

893
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: But I think where it's like you're about to throw

894
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: punches if someone doesn't coming and break it up, would

895
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: be a fight. There's the definition of the fight. It's

896
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: moved to the parking lot and at some point it

897
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: gets physical. It is over way under way under under

898
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: four and a half over eight years, and probably seven

899
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: thousand alcoholic drinks. Way way under yelling maybe, but physical

900
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: over baby over under it's under four and a half?

901
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Was it four? It's three? The over under game. You're

902
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: a more peaceful person under the influence than I imagine that.

903
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm going off the evidence that I have two of

904
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: two of the three. I was playing bouncer, just removing

905
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: people removed. Hey, how can booze come back to us?

906
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: HI or a bouncer? What do you have to do

907
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: it for? He's got plenty of friends who will do

908
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: it for free. I mean he's there from twelve to twelve.

909
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: So Thomas the owner of Huckapoos, one of the nicest

910
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: men in the world. He has a lot of friends

911
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: who will protect his interest for free. Next time you're

912
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: in Huckapoos and we call you, I'm gonna ask to

913
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: talk to Eric and I feel like you deserve some

914
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: type of compensation, compensation for these brawls you're involved. I

915
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: feel like his answer would be, if you had to

916
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: put up with West for seven and a half years,

917
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: that's compensation enough. All right, Let's move on and talk

918
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: about the Indianapolis Colts traveling to the Black Hole to

919
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: face the Oakland Raiders Saucy matchup Saturday, four oh five

920
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: pm Eastern on CBS. The Colts, Hey makes sense of

921
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: the Cults if you can the last three weeks embarrass

922
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 1: the Jets in primetime, the week after that, embarrass themselves

923
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: against Brock Oswiler at home. The week after that, which

924
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: is last week, decimated the Minnesota Vikings on the road,

925
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: and now they faced the Raiders who just beat Minnesota

926
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: or San Diego nineteen sixteen. Chris Westling, how do you

927
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: feeling about this game? This sounds interesting. Here's the sense

928
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: that I've been able to make of the Colts. When

929
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: they can protect Andrew Luck, they are very hard to beat.

930
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: And that's a problem against Khalil Mack and a guy

931
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: who was one of the best free agent signings, Bruce

932
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: Bruce Irvin last week to play a dog, forced fumble,

933
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: forced the game ending interception. Bruce Irvans had a very

934
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: good year, even if his SAT numbers might not show it.

935
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: He's been a hit and this Raiders defensive front should

936
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: win that battle against the Colts offensive line. It's one

937
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: of the best road teams in the league. Indianapolis, which

938
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: I would not have predicted the second highest scoring team

939
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: on the road. I would imagine second to the Falcons.

940
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: And they've won four straight on the road, So you know,

941
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: I think Oakland is a tough place to go play.

942
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: But do we view it as the same as going

943
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: into Pittsburgh in December or Buffalo, even if Buffalo were

944
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: a better team, I don't. No, we want to see

945
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: We'd like to see a dominant game out of their offense.

946
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: You know, they had a couple of red zone turnovers.

947
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: They did move the ball pretty well against where Look

948
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: at this Here's I wrote it right there on my notes.

949
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he really for the guy you thought

950
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: in year two? Would bad Pro Bowl nod for him?

951
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: By the way, not that we get too worried about.

952
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: Is there any other type of Pro Bowl nod? What

953
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: that Davante Freeman got one? I liked, I appreciate it

954
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: as of mid November, and Marie Cooper would have been

955
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: a great pick for the problem. The Raiders have taken

956
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: pains and Derek Carr on our air talking with his

957
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: brother has taken pains to on your air. Really, No,

958
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: it can't be. Greg Rosenthal just hordes of females showing

959
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: their feelings for Greg. I gotta keep that ring on

960
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: our all times, just to ward them off. They they've

961
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: been trying. You know, Car has been trying to say, Okay,

962
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: this whole shotgun thing, it's not an issue. You know

963
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: I did that all through college. Well, if it's not

964
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: an issue, there's a reason why they weren't in shotgun

965
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: a hundred percent of the time before the injury. If

966
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: they thought that was the best way to win, that's

967
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: what they would have done before. It limits their their

968
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: play calling. I'm thinking of a time last week where

969
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: they couldn't run on the goal line out a shotgun.

970
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: It's to me it's an issue. It doesn't mean it's

971
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: it's not something that they can't overcome. I mean, statistically,

972
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: it's a huge issue over the over the sample size

973
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: is small, and one of those games was in absolutely

974
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: frigid weather in Kansas City. But you're right, I mean

975
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: it limits what you can do. Teams wouldn't go shotgun

976
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: one percent of the time typically, I'd I'd be worried

977
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: about this game if I was a Raiders fan Andrew

978
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 1: luck against a team that's given up some big plays

979
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: Reggie Nelson, what a joke of a Pro Bowl and

980
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: not that was that that was the number one one.

981
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't had a good year and he

982
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: and Andrew Luck in his best game can be better

983
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: than Derek Carr even in his best. So you never know.

984
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: It's a dangerous team. Let's get a little more specific.

985
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: What gives this Raiders secondary problems? Think back to who's

986
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: catching the bomb early in last week's game. Travis Benjamin

987
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: one of the fastest receivers in the league. Earlier in

988
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: the year, Brandon Cooks towards the secondary, one of the

989
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: fastest receivers in the league. Tyreek Hill towards this secondary,

990
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: one of the fastest receivers in the league. Here comes

991
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: Sub four four top t Y Hilton and Philip Dorset.

992
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: And you know Philip Dorset will give you one good

993
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: play a game. Um, all good points. You guys are

994
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: all making great points. But Bill Parcels once said you

995
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: are what your record says you are. And as good

996
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: as those Colts look right now after their game last week,

997
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: I am buying into it. And I like the the

998
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: Raiders at home, and I like that eleven and three,

999
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: and I buy into their eleven and three, and so

1000
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna yeah, lock

1001
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: it up. All right, you took up. You took that

1002
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: to a place that definitely did not need to go.

1003
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: Mary Creed, miss everybody favorite Leicester slo movie, Over the Top,

1004
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: Over the Top, get him Daddy's Stole in my room.

1005
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: Actually that's Rocky five. I am confusing my horrible stallone movies. Um, yes,

1006
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: the Raiders will take the Gara business. In my opinion,

1007
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: forget the Colts. Colts. Nobody wants to see the Colts

1008
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, right, you want to see I want?

1009
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: I would much other see the Colts in the Raiders,

1010
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: But I realized, I'm weird. Colts need a uh need

1011
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins to lose this week. You don't even want

1012
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: the Raiders in the playoffs. Now, if you're asking me

1013
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: the culture the Raiders, I'm picking the Colts. Wow, it's

1014
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: free country at least for now. Let's move on the

1015
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Uh, listen, they came close, but they

1016
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: could not get over the hump against the Cowboys. That

1017
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: makes you wonder, you know, maybe that was their big

1018
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: shot to make this season a special one, and now

1019
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna come back to earth. It's one way to

1020
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: look at it, Mark Sessler, or the other way to

1021
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: look at it is they're still a very talented young team,

1022
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: and now they go to face uh New Orleans, to

1023
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: face a middling Saints team, and they can get right

1024
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: back on the horse in a big spot. Your thoughts,

1025
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: I only have one thought. Yeah, what is your thought? One?

1026
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: That's it. I'm locking off the sides. You know what,

1027
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. The segment is that Tampa Bay had a

1028
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: nice little, ugly, hyper ugly win at home against the

1029
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: Saints a couple of weeks ago. I don't like the

1030
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: schedule makers doing this like two of the same games

1031
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: sandwiched around some other game, weird matchup, weird scenario. Saints

1032
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: are gonna take it. They're gonna spot suddenly Tampa Bay

1033
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be in real hot water. You know what.

1034
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: I thought very long and hard about making this my

1035
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: lock of the week as well. So you're gonna go

1036
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: down this road again. No, okay, not repealing. I'm sticking

1037
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: with my lock, but that was my runner up choice.

1038
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: I feel very good about the Saints in this game.

1039
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna finish strong, and I do think

1040
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: Tampa took their best shot last week and they're gonna

1041
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: come down to Earth a little bit. Well, you know,

1042
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: that was on the road against the number one seed

1043
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: in the in the NFC. This is a different match.

1044
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: But I like the Saints to win this game if

1045
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: I if I had to choose too, So I'm not

1046
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: really disagreeing. It's close, though. You know, the Bucks are

1047
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: six and two with Doug Martin, and I don't think

1048
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: that's a coincidence. And one of those losses, of course,

1049
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: was last week against out. They have taken care of

1050
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: teams like the Saints since Martin has been back. They

1051
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: get a nice little match up here with Cameron Bright

1052
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: against the Roman Harper. I think losing Kenny Vicarro, who

1053
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: to me was playing like a pro bowler, has been

1054
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: has been big for the Saints. He's he's suspended right now.

1055
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: He's kind of taking his punishment. Sorry, is it Doug

1056
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: Martin though, I mean I the one thing that I

1057
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: pulled into this research thing that his his yards per

1058
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: carry since he's come back in each game two point one,

1059
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: two point six, three point eight, two point seven, two

1060
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: point nine, two point six. To me, that's that's the line.

1061
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: He is someone when I watched him, it's kind of

1062
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: like Kristen Michael earlier. I'm convinced he's playing well, that

1063
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of yards out last year's Doug

1064
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: Martin though, No, maybe not. But I think a lot

1065
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: of it is the line. I think Jay ms Winston

1066
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: and that has been victimized by it too. I think

1067
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: it's been a really bad offensive line. I think it

1068
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: extends to the running game. So we're gonna act like

1069
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: Week thirteen and fourteen never happened for the Saints offense, Right,

1070
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. For the Saints offense, who are they? Yeah?

1071
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: Why is everyone brushing those two weeks aside? Like they

1072
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: never even happened? I would say, because for the most

1073
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: part this season, the other fourteen weeks or twelve weeks rather,

1074
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: they've been good. You know, they've been a pretty consistent

1075
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: offense other than those two weeks. Still, I mean, their

1076
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: first in total offense, so on balanced. Their yardage is

1077
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: there and everything's great. But West is right, they've had

1078
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: bumps in the road this year. I think I think

1079
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: it's not that I would personally be completely overlooking at

1080
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: It's just that the NFL every week has six games

1081
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: that are completely bizarre, and this will be one of them.

1082
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm guaranteed even that bizarre though. No, I'm just saying that. Yeah,

1083
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just their their favorite. Half of these

1084
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: games are coin flips. We should consider the Buccaneers out

1085
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: of the playoffs because you've locked you've locked it up.

1086
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: The third done. I don't even know why Tampa Bay

1087
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: would board an airplane and go to New Orleans, to

1088
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: be honest, uh lead a clean game out of jamis.

1089
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: He had had a nice four or five pretty clean

1090
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: weeks and that was not a good performance last week.

1091
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: We are you riding and dined with Tampa I am,

1092
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: you know because I've been on them all year. Just kidding.

1093
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: Let's move on the Arizona Cardinals five eight and one

1094
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: playing out the string. Uh gave up almost a fifty

1095
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: burger in their own building. You don't ever want the

1096
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: host to announce your team is playing out the string.

1097
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is right now, that's reality, baby.

1098
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: Now they had to Seattle to face the nine four

1099
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: and one Seahawks, who are really uh you know, working hard.

1100
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: They want that second um buy they want the they

1101
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: want the second seed in the NFC. They gotta to

1102
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: win out to work their way there. And uh, there's

1103
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: no way. Greg Rosen thought they're gonna slip up against

1104
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, right, bad year for the Arizona Cardinals. Can't

1105
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: buy into them. I I don't think there's no way.

1106
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: I to me, the Seahawks are not an unbeatable team,

1107
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals in any given week are dangerous enough

1108
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: to win. I kind of want to see what the

1109
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks defense does against David Johnson. I mean, I think

1110
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to win games. Even the records ugly

1111
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: nine four and one. It's kind of a record of

1112
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: a team. Are they dominant? Are they not? I don't know.

1113
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: The tie messes everything up. That's a Patriot fan and

1114
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: you're talking a great record. It's a great record, but

1115
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of weird. I I think

1116
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: the defense that Russell Wilson has been so erratic lately,

1117
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: kind of not pulling the trigger. It that's a little

1118
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: bit of a concern something to watch in this game.

1119
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been on Cardinals retirement beat all week.

1120
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer's coming back Larry Fitzgerald is only concentrating on

1121
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: the next two games and refused to speculate. Bruce Arians

1122
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: is like, I ain't going nowhere. I'm coming back, Baby,

1123
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: He's back. David David Johnson is going. I don't know

1124
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: if he is aiming to become the third player ever

1125
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: with one thousand and one thousand in the same season

1126
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: he wants at He's got eight hundred receiving yards right now.

1127
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: Roger Craig and Marshall Falk are the only two other ones.

1128
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: I was about to win West's toaster. You and see

1129
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: if you knew the other two names. What there they are?

1130
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: I watched both of them play. I've watched Roger Craig

1131
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: tear my Bengals apart. In the nineteen eighties, Roger Craig

1132
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: was the centerpiece of the first fantasy team I ever

1133
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: owned back in I believe had to do the stats

1134
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: of my own. I was a sports fan at a

1135
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: very young age. Roger Craig very underrated historically, true falls

1136
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: West absolutely because he played in the West Coast offense

1137
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: before anyone else played in the West Coast office. People

1138
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: did not respect running backs receiving yards like they did

1139
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: running backs, rushing yards and one of the well, sorry,

1140
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: one of the early backs. When you're young and you

1141
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: start to get plugged into NFL films and all these

1142
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: guys they slow the speed down. Roger Craig pumping his

1143
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: legs and jumping. He had just fun to watch. He

1144
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: had a distinctive style. I haven't have you seen anyone

1145
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: run like him since where his knees go so high

1146
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: in the air. Mark, I say a crow l. No,

1147
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm not back. I don't know. Let me know. If

1148
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: we're out of at a school talking about this. Mark.

1149
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: One day, we're at a bar. This a couple of

1150
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: years ago. Now I don't like where it's going. But

1151
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: there appeared there appeared to be a break in across

1152
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: the street from Afar. I could share this story. Yes,

1153
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: we're sitting around, we're sitting well, it is what it was.

1154
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: We're sitting around a fire pit on an outdoor patio

1155
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: of this bar restaurant. Uh Mark and I and several others.

1156
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: I think my wife was involved. And um, all of

1157
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: a sudden, we we look and we could see on

1158
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: the storefront across the boulevard is some activity in the

1159
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: business across the street. And it looks like a robberies

1160
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: and well was looking it seemed to be an art

1161
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: antique slash art dealership, and three very shady characters went

1162
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: in through a side door, and a black suv pulled up.

1163
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: Three men dressed in dark clothing go in through the

1164
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: side door, and then you start seeing flashlights inside, like, oh,

1165
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: this doesn't look good and we're watching it. What should

1166
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: we call the police? What are we gonna do? And

1167
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: then like all of a sudden, it was like, where's Mark?

1168
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: Mark again? This is now. We've been at this bar

1169
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: restaurant for a couple of hours at this point, sitting

1170
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: around and perhaps sipping on some beverages. We look, there's

1171
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: Mark sprinting across. I mean, this is a boulevard about

1172
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: two three feet across, sprinting across towards the scene of

1173
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: the potential crime. As the guys are spilling out and

1174
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: taking off in their STV. We've never known what you

1175
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: were doing, but I do remind me you do remember

1176
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: when I think about it, I think of Roger Craig,

1177
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: the way you were pumping with arms and legs towards

1178
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: the scene of the crime, with no weapon on your person.

1179
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: I shifted into crime stopper mode, and uh, you know

1180
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't quick enough, if I if I remember, I

1181
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: had words with one of them as he was getting

1182
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: into the vehicle and closing the door, and I think

1183
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: he's gave me the finger and said you're out of here.

1184
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, what were the words? What are you doing? Stop?

1185
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: Don't do you belong to this business? I don't know what. Yeah,

1186
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: this is a fun addition to the story. For the

1187
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: last time, it was on the podcast whatever. Okay, I

1188
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: don't remember. Check the tape here. It is when a

1189
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: crime happens, do you run toward it or you do

1190
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: run away? That's all I said. Toward You are not

1191
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: running toward any crime, right. I love it. The conversation

1192
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: you had with one of the assailants, that's a new

1193
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: piece of this. I'm not saying it wasn't it. I

1194
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it as a conversation. It was like I

1195
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: was attempting to shout them down and they were ignoring me.

1196
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: It was like a tansome Hank was there too. Yes,

1197
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: I have like a top ten list of times where

1198
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: I thought that my friend Mark was gonna get killed,

1199
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: and that is probably in the top three let's uh,

1200
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: oh West, what do you think about all this buzz?

1201
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: A little bit of buzz on Twitter? Hey, how can

1202
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: David Johnson is not in the VP conversation? Now? You

1203
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: just want to get me riled up? People. There's this

1204
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: meme going around with Ezekiel Elliott's stats versus David Johnson,

1205
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: as if that's the way you compare m v P

1206
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: king it is. You don't watch any film whatsoever. You

1207
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: just throw up stats and that's how it works. David

1208
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: Johnson's had a great year. He could be for Greg's

1209
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: little offensive player, the little The award should be aboushed.

1210
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: But that's what David. Look, here's the simple answer. If

1211
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: your team is not winning games, you can't be that valuable.

1212
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get the Andre Dawson Hawk m v

1213
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: P Award. There's a reason why. Look, I don't think

1214
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: it's that crazy because I think watching film, if anything,

1215
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: supports David Johnson because to me, he's more. If you

1216
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: call it the most great player, fine, but how valuable

1217
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: are you if your team went that's about That's about

1218
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: what I consider it because to me, no player can

1219
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: over It's it's the ultimate team sport quarterback obviously you

1220
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: have a bigger say but then no running. But I mean, no, right,

1221
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not interested in following a sport that

1222
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: gives its most valuable award to a guy who doesn't

1223
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: even make the playoffs or doesn't even has a team

1224
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't do well. It's that we've been We've been

1225
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: talking about this for years in this podcast. This is

1226
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: the case for the Offensive Player of the Year award.

1227
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: David Johnson deserves to be rewarded for this amazing season.

1228
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: That said, it's not his fault. His team is dog ass.

1229
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: So that's what the whole pro team, that's what. Yeah,

1230
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: that's a d MT award is everybody likes to have

1231
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: a trophy. Look at Kurt Wonner when he does his hit.

1232
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: MVP is more like, it's more like if you told

1233
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: the story of the two thousand sixteen season, who can

1234
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: you not tell it without? I mean, David Johnson has

1235
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: had a great year, but he's not gonna be the

1236
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: m v P. Sorry, okay, let's move on another meme.

1237
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: You sheep could use some meme though, I like it

1238
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: the one in thirteen San Francisco forty niners. Uh and

1239
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: you talking about playing another string against the Los Angeles

1240
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: Rams West. Give me one one thing, one nugget, one question,

1241
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: one comment about this game, and will move on, all right.

1242
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: The forty Niners, I believe, have lost twelve fumbles this

1243
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: year and the NFL averages three lost fumbles in this

1244
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: day and age, is it really safer to run the

1245
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: ball than pass the ball? Nobody throws interceptions anymore, and

1246
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: all the forty Niners do when you watch them, is

1247
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: run the ball. So maybe they have a high risk

1248
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: offense than teams that passed the ball to n I

1249
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: think when you're in it, you're in an earrow where

1250
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: nobody turns the ball over through the air anymore, because

1251
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: it's the slant slot. It's the slant slash bubble screen league.

1252
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: Now that I will say as a Jets fan, I

1253
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: can tell you people are throwing interceptions, and it's a

1254
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: fair retorting, and good teams are throwing interceptions, but they're

1255
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: out there. We need the forty Niners to win this

1256
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: game so that when Cody Kesler comes off the bench,

1257
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: gets the Browns off the schneide and they and they

1258
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: build a statue to him, engrave with a speech that

1259
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: Cody Kesler made at halftime Tim Tebow style that they

1260
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: still have the one pick, that they have the number

1261
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: one pick. Outside of your bizarre Cody Kessler fetish, your

1262
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: quarterback index was great this week. I don't understand why

1263
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: you love Cody Ketch. I don't all. I said, he's

1264
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: a good guy to have is around that he needs,

1265
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: He's a good backup. Basically, I'm fine with him as

1266
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: a as a backup type. I just said they just

1267
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: need to add some people. Could he have a Kirk

1268
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: Cousins type career, Yeah? I think so. Why not say

1269
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 1: this for the Coding Pestler podcast. Sorry, they're not worth

1270
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: talking about anymore. Yeah. The Cincinnati Bengals five eight and one.

1271
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: They had their Super Bowl last week against the Steelers

1272
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: and couldn't get the job done. And now they're at

1273
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: Houston and yes, starting at quarterback number something Tom Savage. Okay,

1274
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: so here we go. Mark Sessler is Houston now and

1275
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: the AFC South is saucy right now. And not in

1276
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: terms of great teams, but uh, you have the Colts,

1277
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: and you have the Titans, and now the Texans with

1278
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: a different quarterback. Are they going to take care of business?

1279
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: Get to nine? At six and put the heat on

1280
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: the rest of the division. I think everyone in this

1281
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: room feels like there was no team we were less

1282
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: interested in that actually had a good record than the

1283
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: Texans and any you know, any time you have a

1284
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: quarterback switch and when the first sample size of it

1285
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: is positive, and when your star receiver DeAndre Hopkins is

1286
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: suddenly targeted forty two percent of the time in the

1287
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: game and you watched the passing game open up. Yes,

1288
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: I think they have a chance to win. They're a

1289
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: much better team at home, obviously the Bengals. The Bengals

1290
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: have played better, though watching their games the last couple

1291
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: of weeks, you know, we'd be talking about them differently

1292
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: if they had played a second half the way they

1293
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: did the first against Pittsburgh. This is not an easy,

1294
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, game at all for the Texans. I do

1295
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: think they're going to pull this off, though, Sydney breaking news.

1296
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: Got some breaking news West. We have a new number

1297
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: one defense in the league. It's the Houston Texans number

1298
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: one defense. Why don't they started? They should stop marking

1299
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: it that way. They're like the thirty first team to

1300
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: be the number one defensive season. Tom Savage, we got

1301
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: all we get all excited about him. You know, it's

1302
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: kind of this this storyline we've been but he put

1303
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: together an incredible thirty five minutes of play that was

1304
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: the best the Texans offense has looked by far all season.

1305
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: I would say incredible. In terms of the skills, he

1306
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: showed off a big arm, decisive going through his reads.

1307
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: It was only one game, but it was a highly

1308
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: impressive game. He's not a great athlete. He doesn't move well,

1309
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: but he's very calm in the pocket. Compared to brock

1310
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: ost Wilder too, looks like, I don't did he get

1311
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: compared to Flacco coming out? He probably did, which is

1312
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: why it's in my head, but it kind of he

1313
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: reminds me of Joe Flacco. I mean, he can be

1314
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: on one hash mark and he can throw the deep

1315
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: out to the other hash mark and it gets there

1316
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: in about half a second. Brand compared him to Troy Ignant.

1317
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: Gil Brandt was high on Savage coming into creating him

1318
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: in a lab and he we'll get to that in

1319
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: a second. But yeah, he had some of the worst

1320
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: UH college statistics of any player taken in the draft,

1321
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: but he always had the tools. That's why he got drafted.

1322
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: And he showed some of them. I mean he made

1323
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: There was one particular pass in the fourth quarter that

1324
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: very easily could have been a game sealing interception. I

1325
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: didn't think he was perfect. No, he had a couple

1326
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: of throws that could have been picked up, but he wasn't. Defense.

1327
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: It was a nice perform. He had five or six

1328
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: throws that brock Oswailler didn't make. He not only has

1329
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: a much stronger arm than Oswaller, he also has more

1330
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: touch on his passes than Oswaller. When the situation calls

1331
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: for it, he's I think he's It shocks me that

1332
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: he hadn't played earlier in this we might I mean,

1333
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: if I'm ranking, if I had to get a jersey,

1334
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Malcolm Butler would probably be number one, But

1335
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's Savage number three. That might be

1336
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: the Savage is a good jersey name. I do, I should.

1337
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it up now. It's been flying around Twitter,

1338
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: uh for several weeks now, and since we were the

1339
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: first people on the Tom Savages beat, and now we're

1340
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: operating under the assumption that Tom Savage is indeed you are.

1341
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm I have Greg still still question I'll throw towards

1342
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: your potential case. A lot of people are saying that

1343
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: Tom Savage bears more than a passing resemblance to actor

1344
01:07:51,880 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: Nick Cage. The Cage and Nick Cage will literally do

1345
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: anything for a paycheck, including I would assume being involved

1346
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: in a wild, diabolical conspiracy that has him being a

1347
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: underutilized backup quarterback in the NFL. I saw Nick Cage

1348
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 1: in Moonlight or what's the one with share moonstruct? Moonstruct

1349
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: he doesn't have he doesn't have the arm Oh, come on,

1350
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean Nick Cage one of that. That's your's your

1351
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: saving is a great army. Cage isn't coming in that.

1352
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: Nick Cage is one of the great shape shifters of

1353
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: his generation. Not to mention, uh, a guy who comes

1354
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: up with diabolical plans and completes them. Just watch his movies.

1355
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: Nick Cage is. Nick Cage is Houston's ninth starting quarterback

1356
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: since which is tied with the Browns. Which here's a question,

1357
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: will Nick Cage slash you know, Tom Savage is his

1358
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: his alias be the Week one starter next year? Well,

1359
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: if you look at what it would cost, I believe

1360
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 1: it would be like a twenty five million dollar capit

1361
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: to get rid of us. While in addition to effect that,

1362
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: you could just have the most expensive backup. Well I

1363
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: think that can it prohibits you from going out and

1364
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: getting a veteran certainly, Yeah, yeah, it makes sense to

1365
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: have Savages his competition or not even his competition. Osswater

1366
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: is the backup. He also got a factor in if

1367
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 1: Nick he shoots a lot of movies overseas. Now what

1368
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: is his shooting schedule that gets on the way. I mean,

1369
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: so Tom Savage is in the hospital with an elbow infection. Actually,

1370
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, Nick Cage had a quick assignment behind the

1371
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: camera in front of this There you go, and and

1372
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: to your question about the arm strength West three letters

1373
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: c G. I so I didn't actually see what I

1374
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: thought I saw an NRG stadium or whatever it is. No,

1375
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,480
Speaker 1: you did, it just wasn't who you thought it was. Necessarily,

1376
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm confused. A little bit of special effects is what

1377
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. By the time this game happens, this is

1378
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: the Saturday night version. In uh Saturday Night game Christmas

1379
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: Eve night, the Texans could clinch the division and just

1380
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: in case, the Jaguars win early over Tennessee Houston would

1381
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 1: be playing to win the a f C South before

1382
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: we even get to a game that ensures that no

1383
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: male or female working for the NFL will see their

1384
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: children the night before Christmas. Do you want to say

1385
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: anything about the Bengals as perfect might not play. He's concussed.

1386
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 1: I have one guy I think other teams should be watching.

1387
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 1: If you need a pass catching back, go get Rex Burkhead.

1388
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: He's a good They love him. I think they just

1389
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: extended him before last season. I thought he was a

1390
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: free agent. I gotta look that up. I thought I

1391
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: thought I wrote some insane offseason post that snuck into

1392
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: somehow above the bar that we had a Burke. That's

1393
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 1: like extension Harbor esque. You guys work this out and

1394
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move on to Christmas Day games. We have

1395
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: two of them. He is a free agent, is right?

1396
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm thinking of you two years ago. It's all

1397
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: a terrible The eight and six Baltimore Ravens at the

1398
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: nine and five Pittsburgh Steelers. This is what I'm talking about.

1399
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: Four thirty pm Eastern on NFL Network. Greg you called

1400
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 1: this the greatest NFL Network game of all time in

1401
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: terms of exclusive and you know what I think it's

1402
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: gonna be a dog fight. I'm in it. I love it.

1403
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: It's it's the two teams. It's two teams that really

1404
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: don't like each other. It's the longest like rivalry that

1405
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: still holds up in the NFL. And it means so much.

1406
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean that the Steelers win the division. With the win,

1407
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: the Ravens take control of the division. They can knock

1408
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 1: the Ravens out. I mean that, how good would that

1409
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: feel for the pitt Pittsburgh Steels. Essentially, they're not making

1410
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: the wild Card if they lose, lose this game, and

1411
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: it's the but and I and I don't feel too

1412
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: good if I'm a Ravens fan. These are the bizarro

1413
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 1: Ravens right now. Suddenly they are running the ball. That's nice.

1414
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: But two straight teams with good offenses have running them.

1415
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: Uh well, not with good offenses necessarily, but the Eagles

1416
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: the Patriots both ran on them the last couple of weeks.

1417
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: That's not a good sign when you're about to play

1418
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: leve Bell superhuman. I was already excited for this matchup,

1419
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: which you know, Greg's right, NFL network isn't exclusive on

1420
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: the best. I mean, this is just what a matchup

1421
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: this is you guys deserve this, And then connor Or

1422
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: got me even more excited with his article Steve Smith

1423
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: ravens Steelers professional hatred when he outlines all the veterans,

1424
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: how many times are you gonna get to see Terrell

1425
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 1: Suggs playing at a high level again in his fourteen season?

1426
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: Steve Smith, Elvisdoomerville, James Harrison, Guys that are nearing the

1427
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: end of the line, Ben Roethlisberger, probably not nearing the

1428
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 1: end of the line, but been around forever. Eric Wettle.

1429
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: These are some of the best players. I mean, it's years.

1430
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: It's amazing because with the second Flacco enter the league,

1431
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: these games were huge because both teams were big. Every

1432
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: year they were big games, so Flacco and Roethlisberger played

1433
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: each other so many times. Listening to Flacco this week,

1434
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: you could tell it's almost like he needs It's he's

1435
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 1: so flat line, he almost needs something like this to

1436
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: feel something in life, and he's feeling it this week

1437
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: like he's fired up. If you look, Connor, connor Or

1438
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: and I combined on a preview for both of these

1439
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: Christmas games, and you've got to read this number one

1440
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: for only one reason Connor Orror provides insane food and

1441
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: drink recommendations for both games. I mean, they are from

1442
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: the mind of an insane person, and I love it.

1443
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: They're great, They're excellent. But I will tell you, uh

1444
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: that you go. I went and looked at what Ozzie

1445
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: Knewsom has done draft wise over the last four seasons,

1446
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: and if you go to Pro Football Reference, you can

1447
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: quickly decide how how well a team scrapped because if

1448
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: their name is in bold, those players are still in

1449
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: the league. Every single one of the players ninety high,

1450
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: all the players the Ravens have drafted over the last

1451
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: four seasons, all active in the NFL, most of them

1452
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: on the Ravens still most many of them on a

1453
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: defense that is a great mix of youth and older

1454
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: players and a guy like Terrell Suggs Doomerville last week

1455
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, great game. I thought that they were

1456
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: playing like guys five years younger than there. It's the

1457
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: key to everything, Mark you and I know all too well.

1458
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: You have to have somebody upstairs and knows that they're doing,

1459
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: especially in those mid rounds where that's where you get

1460
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: your depth from. That's how you you sustain success. And

1461
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: you're not flashing the pan uh. And the Ravens have

1462
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: done better than anybody. And and this Steelers team has

1463
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: struggled against the Ravens. The Ravens have basically owned them

1464
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: six out of seven times. I mean that is one

1465
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: sided for for a rivalry where the Steelers have been

1466
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 1: a good team. That the Ravens embarrassed the Steeler's offense

1467
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: the last time they played in Pittsburgh for three and

1468
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: a half quarters. And yet this is a different Steelers team.

1469
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: It's a team who kind of knows who they are.

1470
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: This is this is the biggest spot possible. And they

1471
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: got a defense that's playing much better. They know who

1472
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: they are. They're not even letting Jarvis Jones and Rotten

1473
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: Moats on the field. It's all Harrison, It's all but Duprie.

1474
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock it out. Yes, yes, in a big spot.

1475
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: Like you tweeted out that you think Ryan Schasier might

1476
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: have a defensive Player of the Year in his future

1477
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: if everything breaks right. His his peak, Like if you

1478
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: just took him from the last five weeks, I don't

1479
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: think anyone's playing any better on defense in him. I mean,

1480
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: his peak play is as good or better than anyone's

1481
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: peak play. Here's how dominant the Steelers have been during

1482
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: this winning streak. They have allowed the fewest sex in

1483
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: the NFL and recorded the most snacks by their defense

1484
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: in the NFL. There you go, Steelers in a good

1485
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: place right now. Let's see if they could finish strong.

1486
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: Moving on to the Sunday Night Christmas Night game. Between

1487
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: Christmas Night Christmas Night game, Yeah, I mean they've They've

1488
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: spread these games across every possible day that exists. I'll

1489
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: be covering this game. You know, really, I haven't seen

1490
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: a Christmas Night game. I'm gonna have like a bottle

1491
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 1: of whiskey sent to you. You should not be doing that. Well.

1492
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: I don't appreciate David Eally is a fair boss. He's

1493
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: a story. He picked the guys who did not have

1494
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: wives and kids to cover the Christmas Day games, which

1495
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: I feel like it's fair. Is it is the boss

1496
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: situation better or worse than where it was? Let's say,

1497
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: just uh pining the wall? Uh last year? This time? Oh,

1498
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: nobody's better than Greg. Greg's my best boss ever. Thanks West. Sorry,

1499
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean really has really improved throughout the season, really

1500
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: has has. Absolutely He's done an excellent I have no

1501
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: complaints about has been great. And so he started at

1502
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: one point and he's really since that point got into

1503
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: a much different point. We're all learning together, we're all

1504
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: getting better. Maybe she got really on the phones at

1505
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: some point, maybe after the season, just to check in

1506
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: on the dynamic. It's been great, Okay. Broncos Chiefs Christmas

1507
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 1: Night football at Arrowhead and what an important game it

1508
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: is really for both teams, but especially I would say

1509
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, who you never want to be the

1510
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: team that wins the Super Bowl and then you can't

1511
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: even get back to the playoffs the next year. And

1512
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: that's it's gonna happen to the Broncos here, um, Chris

1513
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: Westling if they can't find a way to go into

1514
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: arrow Ahead and beat the Chiefs. Yeah, I thought it

1515
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: was interesting. This is where where I am on the

1516
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: Broncos that James Palmer yesterday had a really nice interview

1517
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: with Upton that lives Andrew Siciliana, where he this little

1518
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: nugget that nobody really paid attention to throughout the day.

1519
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 1: The Broncos defense, despite all the outburst and shouting and

1520
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: frustration with the offense, Trevor Simeons off the hook they have.

1521
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: They have actually increased their confidence in respect and Trevor

1522
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: Simeon for doin fairly well and playing in a tough

1523
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: manner behind a struggling offensive line with no running game,

1524
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: and the coaches in Denver believe that he's going to

1525
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 1: be their quarterback, not Paxton Lynch for the next couple

1526
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: of years. That was major news. I think watching him,

1527
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: his play has been incredibly encouraging. And they don't they

1528
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: open up the playbook for him to do anything. They've

1529
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: had to lean on him. They don't have a they

1530
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 1: don't have a running game. I don't like their chances

1531
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: this season long term because of that last part where

1532
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: you can't run the ball and you're the Denver Broncos

1533
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: under Gary Kubiak. But Simeon has not been the issue.

1534
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: Here's the problem, though, and it's the same thing we're

1535
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: seeing it again. Simeon has really been a nice surprise

1536
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 1: for him and has been steady. But he can't He's

1537
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: not there. He can't carry this team and maybe he

1538
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: never will, and maybe maybe he'll be this guy, and

1539
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: that's the fine if they're gonna have a great defense.

1540
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: But not. The defense has to be better than the

1541
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: special teams has to be better. The running game's gotta

1542
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: be better. The blocking has got to be better. Running game,

1543
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: the running game is is. I think they're Achilles hells

1544
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: the mismatch of a team right now, right. I mean,

1545
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: I also their defense, which you have to It's the

1546
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: kind of team where you need to count. It's sort

1547
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 1: of like the Chiefs. You need the defense to generate

1548
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: big turnovers and maybe score you a touchdown or set

1549
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: you up deep in territory. And they have zero takeaways

1550
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: in four of their last six games when they're on.

1551
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: Though Denver's defense can turn games all right, they're still

1552
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: impossible to really throw the ball on. They I think

1553
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: they are the toughest team to throw on. I mean,

1554
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: that's a pretty nice a nice skill to have, and

1555
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: it's gonna give you a chance to win any week.

1556
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,440
Speaker 1: But they have lost four straight now against winning opponents.

1557
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: So they're two and four over the last six games,

1558
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 1: and those two wins are against bad teams. So what

1559
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: are the odds that they can go into Kansas City

1560
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: and win and then beat Oakland next week. That's what's

1561
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna take for them to Kansas City with nine straight

1562
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 1: wins in the a f C West. That is just remarkable.

1563
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: That's that's right up there is the toughest division in football,

1564
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: and it's another case for Andy Reid. Despite the team's

1565
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: potential flaws. I'm not in love with the Chiefs going

1566
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: further than a playoff game or two. But Andy Reid

1567
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: has done a great job. You know what, I think.

1568
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: I already locked it up, so I'm not gonna lock

1569
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: this up, but I think that I think the Broncos

1570
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: are gonna show the heart of a champion on Christian

1571
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna get to nine and six

1572
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: in a big spot. Justin Houston has yet to practice

1573
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: this week, swelling in his surgically repaired knee, and that

1574
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: guy against the Broncos last time had the most dominant

1575
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: quarter I've seen by any player all season. Let's pick

1576
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 1: this game. You heard my choice. I think West. You

1577
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: just went with the Broncos as well? What else? Who else?

1578
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: I continually pick against the Chiefs and it continually bites

1579
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: me in the ass, So I'm gonna go with Kansas City.

1580
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: I've already blocked approximately Chiefs fans on Twitter, so I

1581
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: know qualms about saying, just for the heck of it

1582
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: against logic, I think I agree with you. I think

1583
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: the Broncos are gonna show something. Chiefs fans should love us.

1584
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: All four of us in our preseason preview picked the

1585
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: Chiefs to win the a f C West and the

1586
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: only way that's gonna be right as if they win

1587
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: this game. So I picked them to go to the

1588
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 1: a f C Championship and lose. Something I've not clung

1589
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: to once during the actual season. So I remember a year,

1590
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 1: but you picked at the beginning year to go to

1591
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: the to do is you kind of predict everything and

1592
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: then you only claim the things that were correct or

1593
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: that seem accurate. Finally, Monday Night Football, the Detroit Lions

1594
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: travel to Big d to face the Dallas Cowboys, and

1595
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: just as this very podcast four told the Lions, be

1596
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: careful because now you've lost two straight games, and now

1597
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,799
Speaker 1: you got to go to Dallas and you're gonna potentially

1598
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: put yourself in a situation Mark Sessler, where you go

1599
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: into Week seventeen on a three game losing streak unless

1600
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: you found out to find a way to beat the

1601
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys on the road where their chances I don't like

1602
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: their chances. I I think last week's game with the

1603
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys was for me a great confirmation that it's time

1604
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: to stop whispering and chatting and setting up your entire

1605
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: pregame show around whether Tony Romo will play again. Dak

1606
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: Prescott delivered. I think it's he this. It's just remarkable

1607
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: to picture the fact that this is a first year

1608
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback doing what he's doing against the Bucks, a

1609
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 1: team that we really love their defense in facing the blitz.

1610
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: He was seven for seven last week, and this is

1611
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: not this is not the same pass rush this week.

1612
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: I think that the Cowboys are going to drop a

1613
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: bomb on Detroit. In fairness to the trade, we're you know,

1614
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: we're killing them, saying they might fall apart. They've only

1615
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: lost they won five in a row, and then they

1616
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: lost a very tough game. They only lost once coming

1617
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: into once coming into this game, and and they lost

1618
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: a tough game to a good defense. I don't like

1619
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: this matchup for either defense. I kind of think this

1620
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: is a good matchup for for Stafford. They've struggled against

1621
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: some physical defense that can man them up, and and

1622
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 1: the Cowboys kind of sit back there a zone team.

1623
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: The Bears did that against the Lions. They kind of

1624
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: made them do those twelve thirteen play drives and the

1625
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: Lions took it. And I can see both of these

1626
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: offenses going back and forth with twelve play touchdown drives

1627
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 1: and the score is not that high, but it's kind

1628
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: of dominated by offense, and that it comes down to

1629
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: the very end. And you gotta give Stafford a chance

1630
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: in that all the people putting the Giants defense with

1631
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: the two thousand Ravens come back to us. It's not

1632
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: like they shut down the Lions last week. Golden Take

1633
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: got caught from behind by Dominic Rogers Crimarti on what

1634
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: would have been a long time and Zack Center fumbled

1635
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: into the end zone on the next place. And they

1636
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: also had like two or three nearly spectacular downfield side

1637
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 1: and catches where he was like one toenail out of bounds.

1638
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 1: The Lions move the ball on the Giants without theo rittic.

1639
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: It's not like the Giants shut them down, right, I felt.

1640
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 1: I felt a little straw many though to bring up

1641
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: the two thousand Ravens, like the Giants have the best

1642
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. Let's calm down on that. There

1643
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: are very good defense and getting better. I think the

1644
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: I think this Lions defense has been better too. It's

1645
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: gotta be tough. It's tough to disrupt. It's tough to

1646
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: disrupt Dak Prescott when he's just getting rid of the

1647
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: ball so so decisively like he did last week. They

1648
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: don't have a great pass rush. They might be without

1649
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: Darius Slay. It sounds like they will, which is a

1650
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: big time loss. They have to play more zone coverage there,

1651
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: but they were playing better. I don't see this as

1652
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 1: some sort of cake walk. Well let's go back to

1653
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: tabulation corner here. Is it true that if the Giants

1654
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: loose to the Eagles on Thursday Night Football, this game

1655
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: means nothing to the Cowboys. That's true, Yes, absolutely. I

1656
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: mean that's one huge doctor in this game saying the

1657
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys all of a sudden take their foot off the

1658
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 1: gas pedal. But human nature being what it is, that's

1659
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 1: the only team that can steal the division and the

1660
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: number one seed away from from Dallas. So you're right.

1661
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean, technically there's a scenario the Lions could actually clinch.

1662
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: They need about three different things to happen. Alliance could

1663
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: clinch a playoff spot before they even play. Obviously, it

1664
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: will still be a big game for them because they're

1665
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: trying to win the division either way, I don't know.

1666
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: I hope that doesn't happen. Uh anybody see Detroit pulling

1667
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 1: off the upset. I guess we need to know where

1668
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: Dallas is at that point. But picking I don't I

1669
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: am picking Dallas even if even if they've salted everything

1670
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: away at that point. I don't see this as a

1671
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 1: team that's gonna skate over the last two two games.

1672
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 1: I think, I think if you're a one that like

1673
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, if you're one that pays attention to what

1674
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: the final score is and the implications that can have, though,

1675
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 1: I think the Lions keep it close. You know what

1676
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, What do you mean one who would do that?

1677
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: Do you mean a gambler like al Michaels? This is like,

1678
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: by the way, Terall Austin gonna be interviewing for some

1679
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,879
Speaker 1: head coaching jobs. You wanna you wanna get some attention.

1680
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: How about Monday Night football? Your defense, little underman has

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Speaker 1: a nice performance against the Cowboys in a win that'll

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Speaker 1: get you a coach, or you give up, you know,

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Speaker 1: you give up. You know Ezekiel Elliott is two and

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Speaker 1: what fifty eight yards away from breaking Eric Dickerson's record.

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Speaker 1: You could also have you getting go completely south and

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Speaker 1: Terrell Austin's phone stops ringing. Nice name, though, Tarrell, Tarrell Austin.

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Speaker 1: I mean that sounds like a coach to me, Tarall Austin.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. We can only wait to see how that

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Speaker 1: plays out. Um, all right, let's let's go home, well

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Speaker 1: not home, but let's end the podcast. Hearty thank you

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Speaker 1: to Borro A phrase from Chris Westling to Josh Raymer

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Speaker 1: and Alexis Frederick Frost. They sent the whole group, including

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Speaker 1: our satellite friends Connor and Kevin Patra around the NFL

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Speaker 1: podcast t shirts. You can find pictures of them on

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Speaker 1: my Instagram or Twitter. Yeah, check it out. Great amazing artwork,

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Speaker 1: and so thank you to Josh Rayme and uh Alexis

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Speaker 1: great work, really great detail on it, a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: We love our listeners. If you recall, Alexis Frederick Frost

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Speaker 1: is the super talented illustrator who also made gnomes out

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Speaker 1: of all of us a few months. Yes, it's and

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Speaker 1: you can check my Twitter avatar to see uh my

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Speaker 1: gnome the just great work, very talented. And the book

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Speaker 1: that he sent to the group. The books that he

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Speaker 1: sent to the group his own artwork illustrations. I read

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Speaker 1: it to the most. Son. Oh wow, things are so good.

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Speaker 1: He's got he's got a great Instagram account. By the way,

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Speaker 1: it's okay, it is fantastic. It's incredible, you know artwork.

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Speaker 1: He's a people. Just check it out. Awake, I believe

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Speaker 1: is the name of kids. My kids loved. One last

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Speaker 1: thing Josh Raymer, who ordered these shorts shirts for us.

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Speaker 1: If you check out his Twitter account, he has the

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Speaker 1: link on if you want to buy any of these

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Speaker 1: t shirts that he's created. Josh Raymer. What is it? Where?

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Speaker 1: What's our cut in the licensing? That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're allowed to have. Let's talk to

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Speaker 1: the the business side of this. That's Sydney money, all right.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Next time you hear from us it will

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Speaker 1: be Christmas Eve where we break down all of the

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Speaker 1: Saturday games. Thank you for listening to Since Dan Hansons

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Speaker 1: signing up for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Boss and

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Speaker 1: New Money Behind the Glass till Saturday