WEBVTT - How Scuba Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck and Jerry's here too, And it's a good old

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<v Speaker 2>fashioned barn burner whiz banger of an episode. I ran

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<v Speaker 2>out of weird colloquialism.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, just now, didn't you hear? Uh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just figured you were still doing them in

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<v Speaker 3>your head.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was frantically grasping for another one in my

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<v Speaker 2>head and it was just dust and a tumbleweed.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is sort of continuing our underwater series we'll

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<v Speaker 3>call it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is so stuff you should know. We've done,

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<v Speaker 2>like stuff that's like much more specific about the general

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<v Speaker 2>category that we're talking about. And now we're finally doing

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<v Speaker 2>the general category.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we did the diving, Bell did the butterfly, We

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<v Speaker 3>did we did cave diving. In fact, Cave Diving was

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<v Speaker 3>released as a as a select just this year. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>such a good one. And uh, do I need to

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<v Speaker 3>remind you about the other related episode. I forgot about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember, I remember the Scuba Cat episode. Didn't

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<v Speaker 2>you interview Scuba Cat?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, I mean for those of you who don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>The short version is many many years ago. In the

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<v Speaker 3>very early days of the podcast, occasionally we were sort

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<v Speaker 3>of told to do certain things, and two of them

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<v Speaker 3>really stand out to me. One of them was Scuba

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<v Speaker 3>Cat I know what I Know you do, which was

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<v Speaker 3>this guy who trained his cat to scuba dive. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's literally like a a blurb or maybe a little

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<v Speaker 3>fluffy news piece at the end of a of a

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<v Speaker 3>news program and there like do a stuff you should

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<v Speaker 3>know episode on this cat and this guy. Why though,

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<v Speaker 3>do you remember did they just want page views or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, or else that guy happened to be friends

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, whoever owned the company at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So there, I think there was an article

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<v Speaker 3>on the website we worked for and they were probably

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to drive people to that. So we did

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<v Speaker 3>one on scuba Cat. I would really love that just

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<v Speaker 3>to be scrubbed. But then the archive, well, way to

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<v Speaker 3>go bringing it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Then what was I going to say, Chuck, wasn't this

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<v Speaker 2>thing in like a little submarine kind of is Isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that what the scuba diving was?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I think he built him a

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<v Speaker 3>little little outfit. Oh okay, wow, a little thing with

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<v Speaker 3>like a you know, a big bubble mask.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's worth an episode.

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<v Speaker 3>We could redo it. We should two thousand and eight redus.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the other one you want to I know we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>I we could say at the same time. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's going.

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<v Speaker 3>To be three two one innovators. Yeah, what can you

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<v Speaker 3>do with an Altoid's den? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>For real, Like, I don't know how that one came

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<v Speaker 2>up either, but we were instructed to do an episode

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<v Speaker 2>on tenovators and they were interesting, but not episode length.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting even when they were six minutes long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a tenovator, Just for those of you who

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, they take Altoid tens and they do things

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<v Speaker 2>with them like turn them into radios. Maybe they hold

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<v Speaker 2>coins instead of altoids. It's just repurposation. And yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's repurposing an altoidenovation.

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<v Speaker 3>Very well boy. And we always talk about Jackhammers in

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<v Speaker 3>the sun like that's because we're literally too ashamed to

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<v Speaker 3>even mention those other two. But here they are. Go

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<v Speaker 3>listen to them. Just quickly wanted to say I got

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<v Speaker 3>back from Mexico and I did not scuba dive, I snorkeled,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's fun, and I didn't. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>love the experience, but I learned that I and especially

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<v Speaker 3>my daughter are free divers. Oh yeah, she couldn't do it. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>We got her, I mean, she loves to swim more

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<v Speaker 3>than anything. And we got her in all the gear,

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<v Speaker 3>put her in the water, and she was bitch to

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<v Speaker 3>fit quite frankly.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh like, she couldn't breathe through the tube.

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<v Speaker 3>She does it in pools like it just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're eight, things happen and you can't explain why

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<v Speaker 3>a kid will dig in. But she wasn't into it.

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<v Speaker 3>We were very frustrated, did not handle it well. She

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<v Speaker 3>asked to get back on the boat. She got back

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<v Speaker 3>on the boat and cried, while we scuba are sorry, snorkeled.

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<v Speaker 3>We're like, we're out here, we're gonna do it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be okay. And then once we were done, she

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<v Speaker 3>asked the scuba guys or the snorkel guys, can I

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<v Speaker 3>just get in with my mask and free dive? And

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<v Speaker 3>it was in Mexico. They're like, sure, right, and she

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<v Speaker 3>did and she turned into a dolphin and I recounted

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<v Speaker 3>this on Instagram. It took some great pictures of her

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<v Speaker 3>just swimming like no kid has ever loved swimming before,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just a big lesson for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what happened, though, I think, unless I'm misreading it,

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<v Speaker 2>she got claustrophobic from having to breathe through that tube.

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<v Speaker 3>Now she does it all the time in pools. What

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<v Speaker 3>it was I think was wearing the life fest keeping

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<v Speaker 3>her up on the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, well you left that little detail out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean that's part of snorkeling. Is you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>vest on so that keeps you up top? And she

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<v Speaker 3>was like, no, no, no, I belong down there. My

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<v Speaker 3>home is the sea. As funny Prince Billy.

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<v Speaker 2>Says, I got youa okay, well that makes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more sense. I guess I was just projecting onto her

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<v Speaker 2>because I used to get claustrophobic trying to breathe through

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<v Speaker 2>a snorkel.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a lot of people on Instagram supported that and said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I have a hard time with this equipment too,

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<v Speaker 3>and I love to swim, but it was really that lifefest.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, well we finally established the root cause.

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<v Speaker 3>Then yeah, but here we go with scuba.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I guess okay, So what does SCUBA stand for?

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<v Speaker 3>Chuck? Self contained, underway, breathing, uh, situation, appomattics, appomatics, apparatus.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, scuba. It's actually like an acronym, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>so used, so widely used now it's a lower case word.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure really, yeah, I mean like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>nobody does it with capitals and periods or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just lower It's a word. It's its own word.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's almost lost its meaning as far as like

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<v Speaker 2>the acronym goes. And yet it's gained so much meaning

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<v Speaker 2>over the years because as scuba has been around for

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<v Speaker 2>over the decades, more and more people have found the

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<v Speaker 2>joy of going underwater.

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<v Speaker 3>And I heard you laugh at me, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And breathe if you breathe fully underward, no snorkel, Like

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<v Speaker 2>your head is nowhere near the surface of the water,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't need to be like significantly distant from

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<v Speaker 2>the water. It can just be like a foot below

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<v Speaker 2>the water. But you're breathing underwater. It's an amazing feeling,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, and a lot of people have discovered that

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<v Speaker 2>over the years and said, scuba is the life for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as of December twenty nineteen, you had scuba dived once. Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you done it since? No?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm actually a little troubled because I read that

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to go like three or four open water dives,

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<v Speaker 2>and I only went on one. So I've been under

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<v Speaker 2>the impression that I've been certified to scuba dive all

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<v Speaker 2>this time, and I'm like, I, is that true. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember where my card is or anything. So I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if I actually wasn't fully certified or satisfied, I

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<v Speaker 2>would find it very dissatisfying if that were true.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, do you want to do it again? Because I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get a good read on you in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I didn't know you then, like I know, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe because I before. The reason I didn't like is

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<v Speaker 2>because I got it made me seasick, like the air

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<v Speaker 2>mixture did not sit well with me, and then getting

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<v Speaker 2>on the boat in between dives made it even worse.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, I don't feel like doing this

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<v Speaker 2>over again, but I think enough times past that it's

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<v Speaker 2>possible I would try it again.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I want to get certified now, for sure. I

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<v Speaker 3>did anyway before and we thought we'd wed our beaks

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<v Speaker 3>with snorkeling. The big problem I had, man was the fins.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there were a lot of currents, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just I felt like I couldn't go and get anywhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And then at the end, when Ruby was free diving,

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<v Speaker 3>I did the same thing. I took off all my

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<v Speaker 3>stuff except for my mask, and I went down there

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, all right, well this is I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I can swim again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all It takes a lot of getting used

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<v Speaker 2>to because it is it's meant to help you, and

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<v Speaker 2>it does if you are familiar with it and comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with it, but if not, it's all encumbrance. It makes

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<v Speaker 2>everything difficult. And like, yes, you just want to take

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<v Speaker 2>it all off and just free dive, like you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying, yeah, Emily was cruising around, but you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>saw a little my first like coral that I've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 3>like live coral, and it was beautiful and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the little stripey bright fish and I was I was

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<v Speaker 3>in there with those guys for the first time, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was it was remarkable and amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a dory or a nemo that you saw.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I don't know. It had I think yellow stripes.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was technically a clownfish, although maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they're all types of clownfish. I'm not sure what's a clownfish.

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<v Speaker 3>I think like a dory or a nemo. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>this one big thing that was like the size of

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<v Speaker 3>a dinner plate. Another big flat guy. Wow, he was cool.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Emily saw sea turtle, which I did not see.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we also saw their efforts to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with artificial reefs, with like these PVC sort of pyramids

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<v Speaker 3>that they were building down there. God blood anyway, people, Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this coral wasn't in great shape. It was in parts,

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<v Speaker 3>but other parts were not great and that was sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can thank the fossil fuel industry for that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, So Chuck. One thing that I had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea about with researching this scuba episode is that it

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<v Speaker 2>actually the scuba phenomenon, I guess you could call it

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<v Speaker 2>dates back to the mid nineteenth century, and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like somebody had an idea and then one hundred years

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<v Speaker 2>later somebody actually created it. Someone in the eighteen sixties

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<v Speaker 2>actually created the first scuba equipment.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. Are you going to say his name? You're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna make me do it, but I'll say the first name,

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<v Speaker 3>mid Benoir, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a rook way roll or rock and Roll's

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<v Speaker 2>that what that means? I don't think so, but it

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<v Speaker 2>looks when you pronounce it, it sounds a lot like

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<v Speaker 2>rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, rooke and or roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Rookoy roll yeah, rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So he's obviously French, and he was not trying

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out a way to recreationally dive in the ocean.

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<v Speaker 3>He was trying to figure out a way to help others,

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<v Speaker 3>rescue workers rescue people in collapsed minds because these things

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<v Speaker 3>would get filled up with nasty gases. And he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I can invent the system that allows these

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<v Speaker 3>rescuers to go down there and breathe safely so they

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<v Speaker 3>can save these people. And he called that first one

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<v Speaker 3>a regulator for equalization of compressed gas A little on.

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<v Speaker 2>The noise, A regulator, sure, sure, so I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>was a little verbose.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or a demand regulator. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason it was a demand regulator, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is the this is the big deal like you could

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<v Speaker 2>feed somebody air continuously, but you're gonna use up a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of air. You might overinflate their lungs accidentally, which

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<v Speaker 2>is that it could be a problem with novices in scuba.

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<v Speaker 2>But a demand regulator means that you're only sucking in

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<v Speaker 2>that compressed air when you're breathing in. When you exhale,

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<v Speaker 2>that air is no longer coming into your mouth, into

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<v Speaker 2>your gullet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's on demand, like the best movies.

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<v Speaker 2>And this guy along with a guy named Auguste Deni

0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Rouse Denay Rose dene Rouse, it was in there that

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<v Speaker 2>last one I think nailed it. But I think so

0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Ben Waughan Augos, let's call him. That they got together

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<v Speaker 2>and figure out how to turn this not just into

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<v Speaker 2>a mind safety equipment piece of equipment, but actually to

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<v Speaker 2>use it to breathe underwater. So they put the whole

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<v Speaker 2>compressed air thing in like a backpack. I get the impression.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a fabric bag holding the compressed air.

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<v Speaker 2>They put that demand regulator on, and they were working underwater,

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<v Speaker 2>untethered from any boat, using the first genuine scuba in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was like the first Legit diving suit. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 3>they had lead sold shoes and they had weights hanging

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<v Speaker 3>under your arms. At first, there was still no mask.

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<v Speaker 3>They had used a nose clip, but then a year

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<v Speaker 3>later in eighteen sixty six, they brought about the first mask,

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<v Speaker 3>which was a copper helmet with a single window that

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<v Speaker 3>they called the groin because it was French for pig

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<v Speaker 3>snout and it kind of looks like a pig snout, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And they won for this. For their efforts, they won

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<v Speaker 3>the begold medal at the eighteen sixty seven World's Fare

0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:22.040
<v Speaker 3>called the aerophoor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they called it the aerophor, right. So, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing about this is like you're like, yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen those before, Like there was a haunted one on

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<v Speaker 2>Scooby Doo. There's an air hose coming out of the helmet. No,

0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.839
<v Speaker 2>that's the distinction. There's no air host. They were untethered

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<v Speaker 2>to anything. They could roam as free as they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>on the seafloor.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So fast forward a few years, geez, about seventy Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>about seventy years there was another person who had a

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<v Speaker 2>very similar idea. What was his name, Christian Lamberton.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well there was a guy in the twenties, eve

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<v Speaker 3>La Prio, okay, who and Dave helped us out with this.

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<v Speaker 3>Dave duck this guy up and it was sort of

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<v Speaker 3>one of the first sort of modern takes on a

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<v Speaker 3>scuba system. But the air still wasn't on demand at

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<v Speaker 3>that point. They adjusted the airflow like as they went along,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Christian Lambertson came along in nineteen fifty four

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<v Speaker 3>and did a couple of things. Well, actually he came

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<v Speaker 3>along in nineteen thirty nine with the Lambertson Amphibious Respirator

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<v Speaker 3>Unit or the LaRue. Didn't rename it scuba until nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty four. But this was a rebreather. It still wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing. He had a CO two filter and

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<v Speaker 3>he was trying to pitch it to the military. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>he was an American guy. He's like, look, this thing's

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<v Speaker 3>got no bubbles. So he pitched it to the Navy, like,

0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, you can sneak up on people in other words, sure,

0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.360
<v Speaker 3>And he pitched it to the Navy. They rejected it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the OSS which the US had at the

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<v Speaker 3>time the Office of Strategic Services, would eventually become not

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<v Speaker 3>become the CIA, but sort of become the CIA yeah more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and they the OSS loved it and like their underwater

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<v Speaker 3>unit like started using this lamberts and scuba unit, even

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<v Speaker 3>though it still wasn't a it was a rebreather and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll talk about all that stuff soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is more advanced than scuba. So this guy

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<v Speaker 2>basically just created the more advanced version of scuba out

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<v Speaker 2>of the gate, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is very interesting. And his invention was so

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<v Speaker 2>successful that it was used from the fifties to the

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<v Speaker 2>eighties by the US military. Yeah, unchanged kind of like

0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, you see like those mid to late eighties

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<v Speaker 2>movies and the cars are still look like they're from

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<v Speaker 2>the seventies because nobody updated their stuff until that four

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<v Speaker 2>Tourist came out in nineteen eighty eight and RoboCop.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like that, what a great movie.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. In the eighties they were like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is an old timey rebreather.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to update this, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a that's almost like a separate track.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Christian Lambertson was very much dedicated to inventing this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff for the military. He invented a more advanced version

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<v Speaker 2>of scuba call a rebreather, which we'll talk about. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, the much more familiar version of the scuba

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<v Speaker 2>story kind of went in parallel and started a few

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<v Speaker 2>about the same time as Christian Lambertson. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>a pair of French guys who up to Christian Lamberson,

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<v Speaker 2>they were running the scuba world. And it was Jacques

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<v Speaker 2>Cristeau and Emil Gagnum, and those two together are the

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<v Speaker 2>ones who gave the world scuba.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. I saw Gagnan then also saw he was

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<v Speaker 3>French and it was Gagnon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, it's just I didn't want to attempt it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so tired of failing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no. So they got together, like you said, and

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of took Roquai roll. Yeah. Yeah, they took

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<v Speaker 3>his old arm demand regulator and said, all right, I

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<v Speaker 3>think we can update this thing. Gaignon and World War

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<v Speaker 3>two had invented a regulator that used cooking gas to

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<v Speaker 3>feed into the carburetor of a car because the Germans said,

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<v Speaker 3>we're taking all your gas Paris, and so he sort

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<v Speaker 3>of retrofitted a way to make a car work. And

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<v Speaker 3>Cusseau was like, this is brilliant. We can use this

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<v Speaker 3>for scuba.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, you want to huff cooking gas underwater?

0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.399
<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, no, we're gonna We're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>use the cooking gas gagnin.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and also scuba hasn't been so named yet. It

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<v Speaker 3>was still probably about ten years before that, so they

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<v Speaker 3>called it the to Jethrow Tolls de Light the Aquaalong.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I had an idea, and I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I can convince you right here and we'll go back

0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:57.600
<v Speaker 2>and edit this part out of anytime we said aqualogue.

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<v Speaker 2>Just playing that one little riff, Yeah, exactly. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that we could get away with it. After hearing the

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<v Speaker 2>intellectual property episode, I think we could get away with

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<v Speaker 2>just that little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, at the very least, you could play my mouth version,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's pretty and clear.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll look into it in the edit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny our old pal friend of the show, Paula Tompkins,

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<v Speaker 3>every time the word aquaalong comes up, he gets upset,

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<v Speaker 3>well not upset, but makes a point of why did

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<v Speaker 3>Jethro Tol put that one line in there? It snot

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<v Speaker 3>as running down as notes. That line really bugs him,

0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:34.960
<v Speaker 3>does it? Yeah, it's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I've not heard that one. Yeah, anytime I think of

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<v Speaker 2>Paula F. Tompkins, I think Kik Cake Boss.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good stuff. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So they didn't call it scuba yet, Custa didn't. They

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<v Speaker 2>call it the aqua Loong like you said, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>but it was the same thing. It was what you

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<v Speaker 2>if you go and take up this of scuba now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's essentially what you're doing, like what Cousteau was using.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason it caught on is because he made

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<v Speaker 2>a movie called The Silent World that was released in

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<v Speaker 2>what fifty six, nineteen fifty six, and it was an oscar.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an amazing documentary and I was watching Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Wow, there's some amazing wreck diving scenes in there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also hilarious. One guy like pulls the door

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<v Speaker 2>off of the hinges of a shipwreck to get into

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<v Speaker 2>the shipwreck. They're just totally like vandalizing this ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was also at the same time thinking, like

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<v Speaker 2>all that audiences have never seen something like this.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. That was the ticket with Silent World, that

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<v Speaker 3>was there had not been a lot of underwater photography

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<v Speaker 3>and it blew mines in nineteen fifty six. Not only

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<v Speaker 3>did it when the Oscar it was the first Golden

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<v Speaker 3>Palm winner, it can for a documentary. Yeah, and stayed

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<v Speaker 3>that way until Michael Moore won for Fahrenheit nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, and it grossed in today thirty three million bucks.

0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh not bab as a documentary. That's a theatrical doc

0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.280
<v Speaker 3>that's really really good money for sure. And also just

0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.439
<v Speaker 3>to finish up on going on. Sure, he was not

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<v Speaker 3>happy with that first version, so in fifty eight he

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<v Speaker 3>finally released what was called the Aqua Master Regulator and

0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.760
<v Speaker 3>sold a million of those up until like nineteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 3>That was like the go to regulator, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, these guys essentially created the recreational version of scuba,

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<v Speaker 2>introduced it to the world through The Silent World, and

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<v Speaker 2>sat back and took kudos from that point on. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you watch The Silent World, it bears a strong

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<v Speaker 2>resemblance to The Life Aquatic with Steve Zizu.

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<v Speaker 3>No mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>And one other thing about Jacques Cousteau, I didn't realize

0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.159
<v Speaker 2>he worked for the French Resistance as a matter of

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:53.560
<v Speaker 2>fact during World War Two.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Dave, we're gonna have to do one on him

0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.720
<v Speaker 3>because Dave sent us this material. It was like, please please, please,

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.439
<v Speaker 3>let me do one on Jacks and we went. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Dave, also Chuck. You know he has his podcast,

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Bible Time Machine.

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's about Bible stuff, but you don't have to

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.920
<v Speaker 3>like you know, it's from like a historical perspective.

0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:16.159
<v Speaker 2>It's highly accessible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. I know.

0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:24.200
<v Speaker 2>But he had a blockbuster guest on the other day. Actually,

0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I think it came out a couple of weeks ago.

0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 2>He had John Cleese and he interviewed him about the

0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.119
<v Speaker 2>life of Brian John Cleese.

0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 3>How did that happen? I couldn't get a John Cleese

0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:34.280
<v Speaker 3>on movie Crush.

0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how. They must have their ministers or

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<v Speaker 2>friends or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was great, So big congrats to Dave on

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:44.840
<v Speaker 3>the John cleece epp exactly.

0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:47.640
<v Speaker 2>And if you like John Cleese and you like Dave,

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 2>go listen to him talking to one another.

0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Shall we take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's high time we finally made it through

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<v Speaker 2>the first section.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we'll be right back. All right, So we're back,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to talk a little bit about the

0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:32.160
<v Speaker 3>different types of scuba diving that you can do. There's

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<v Speaker 3>the aforementioned open water diving that you talked about. That is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's the most common one. It's what you

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<v Speaker 3>think about when you think about going on vacation, somebody

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<v Speaker 3>taking you out in a boat, throwing that gear on

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 3>you and saying, have a lot of fun, everybody.

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.440
<v Speaker 2>But it can also it doesn't have to take place

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 2>on vacation or even in a tropical locale, or even

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.800
<v Speaker 2>in like a sea or an ocean. It can take

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<v Speaker 2>place in a lake. Sure, it can take place in

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.399
<v Speaker 2>a quarry as long as I think that I'm not kidding,

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 2>as as long as there's no what they call ceiling

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.159
<v Speaker 2>over you, there's nothing between you and the surface of

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 2>the water, that's considered open water diving. And that's the

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 2>far and away the most common recreational diving.

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 3>That's right. And you can go down if you're certified,

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 3>and we'll get to the certification. You can go down

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:20.680
<v Speaker 3>to one hundred feet with your advanced open water certification.

0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well with the main one, the first one that

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<v Speaker 2>you get, just the regular open water diving certification at

0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 2>sixty feet.

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, I wasn't sure if that was official. You

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 3>got to go back for the extra forty feet. You

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 3>want an extra forty it's gonna cost you.

0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:42.200
<v Speaker 2>So there's also night diving is another one fun, same thing,

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 2>but at night, and there's apparently a whole different world

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 2>out there in the ocean at night, which is pretty cool.

0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I love so swimming at night in the ocean,

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:52.719
<v Speaker 3>but I can't do it.

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I just like, I'm just I'm scared of dark water.

0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 3>I get it, dude. Even an ocean swimming person like

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 3>myself was out in this water last week at night

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 3>and fine, having fun, but at a certain point I

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 3>was like, huh and then it's like I'll just casually

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:12.199
<v Speaker 3>swim back in.

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I would have started out with that, huh, Right,

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.640
<v Speaker 2>It took me a little while. Yeah, but it does

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<v Speaker 2>sound pretty cool. Like if you're not afraid of dark water,

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 2>then of course just that would be a great time

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 2>to scuba dive. It's a little more dangerous though than

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 2>regular open water diving because you can get lost very easily.

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:31.680
<v Speaker 2>So most of the time you're tethered to the boat,

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 2>so you can find your way back.

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:36.960
<v Speaker 2>What about drift diving? This sounds like you did the

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 2>reverse of this snorkeling.

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, drift diving is you know, oceans have those strong currents,

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:46.680
<v Speaker 3>or certainly if you're in a river, and I think

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 3>the point of drift diving is to get dropped into

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.919
<v Speaker 3>one of these currents and off you go.

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Like those sea turtles and finding Nemo.

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah were they sea turtles?

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were riding like that underwater current. It was

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.400
<v Speaker 2>like a highway that you could get on and.

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Just zip off. I haven't seen that in a while.

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:07.719
<v Speaker 2>I haven't either, but apparently it made a really strong

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:08.640
<v Speaker 2>impression on it.

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like it.

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 2>So it's cool because you don't have to expend as

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 2>much energy, which is like, well, who cares. Actually scuba

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 2>diving requires a lot of energy. It's really hard work,

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 2>so to save yourself any effort or energy is pretty great.

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.719
<v Speaker 2>And then also because you're working hard, you're breathing harder,

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 2>so you're actually using more oxygen without a current than

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 2>you are with a current, which means you can conceivably

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 2>stay down longer because you.

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Have more air. Yeah. That sounds great, Sure it does.

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 2>That's why people love it.

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 3>You got technical diving, which is an umbrella term for

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 3>most kinds of advanced diving that we're going to continue

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 3>to talk about here, and maybe we should just talk

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 3>about those because most of these next few fall under

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 3>technical diving, first of which is wreck diving. You can

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 3>go out and swim around a legit sunken battleship or ship,

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 3>either one that was naturally sunk or well nothing naturally

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 3>sinks I guess like that, or so not supposed to

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 3>at least, but you know, like one that was sunk

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 3>in battle or one you know. Now, they go out

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 3>there and don't use PBC like I saw, right, I

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 3>saw these little PBC pyramids. They will sink a full

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 3>ship and say, all right, do your work coral, Yeah.

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and they do it to form coral reefs. But

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.679
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, also it's just something interesting for

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 2>divers to come look at too.

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:34.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I don't think you're I think you've got

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 3>to be pretty advanced. Actually, if you want to swim

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 3>through like the kitchen or something like that, Yeah, generally

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 3>you're just sort of swimming around it, right.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:47.120
<v Speaker 2>You can do just regular basic open water certification diving

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.880
<v Speaker 2>around it, like you said, on top of it. When

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 2>you want to go in it, you better add several

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 2>years to your diving experience. It's it's extraordinarily dangerous because

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 2>there's all in a shipwreck, there's all all sorts of

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 2>things you get caught on and get stuck on. You

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 2>can get lost if the ship's big enough and dark enough.

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 3>No, thank you exactly.

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>And like all of the other technical diving, it has

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 2>a ceiling. There's something between you and the surface that

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 2>would impede you from going up to the surface if

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 2>you needed to. That's when really makes it so dangerous.

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that sounds interesting and fun, but I'm

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 3>gonna stick to no ceiling.

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 2>I like watching videos of it. It makes my toes curl,

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>but because you know, it used to be above the surface.

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 3>But I wouldn't.

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I would want to wreck dive either,

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 2>but I like watching wreck diving videos.

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got your deep diving, which requires deep dive certification,

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 3>and I believe you can go down to one hundred

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 3>and thirty one feet and beyond if you're you know,

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 3>if you really get those certifications in order and you've

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 3>got the wherewithal.

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think when you go and get your first

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.959
<v Speaker 2>deep diver certification. The most they want you to go

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 2>down as one hundred and thirty feet forty meters, right,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 2>But then I think with experience and like you hook

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 2>up with other deep divers, then you start going further

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 2>and further down.

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 3>But that's what's they make funny you at dinnert exactly.

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 2>But they they I mean, just the extra thought and

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>preparation and all the extra things that can go wrong

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 2>with a deep dive. It's amazing even if there's nothing

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>over you, between you and the surface, just being down

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 2>that deep as it can be very dangerous and forty

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>meters you're like, I mean, that doesn't seem like that deep.

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>There's like the Titanics at like twelve thousand feet or

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 2>something crazy like that. That's significant because your body's not

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 2>designed to be down forty meters that many atmospheres below

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>sea level.

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:55.239
<v Speaker 3>No, and we'll get to decompression sickness and all coming out.

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's talk about it here. How about that?

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that sounds like a great idea. Actually that sounds

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 3>exactly as how we discussed it. Sure, so you've probably

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 3>heard of the bins. Yeah, that's sort of the common

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 3>name for decompression sickness. And that is a It can

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 3>be pretty rough. Apparently, it can be very painful. It

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 3>can be fatal, and it's caused by nitrogen bubbles. Nitrogen.

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Nitrogen bubbles in your blood, in your bloodstream. That's the

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 3>problem with the bins.

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because the air we breathe has like seventy eight

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 2>seventy two percent nitrogeny eight seventy eight percent nitrogen, twenty

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 2>one percent oxygen. The rest is trace stuff, right, and

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>that nitrogen typically at sea level or even you know,

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 2>higher than sea level. But whatever, I think, I just

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 2>made this more complicated than I needed to. But then

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 2>nitrogen typically goes through our body and where we expire

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 2>it breathe it out, it does nothing. It doesn't react

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 2>with anything. It's too hard to chemically deconstruct and use

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>for something else. It requires too much energy, so we

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 2>just pass it through. But when we're down breathing the

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>nitrogen that stays in our body at any given time,

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>when we're below surface, below sea level, it turns into

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 2>a gas and permeates our blood stream. But as we

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 2>go up, if that gas isn't absorbed slowly into our tissues,

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 2>it will form bubbles, just like when you open a pop,

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 2>a soda, a coke, whatever you want to call it.

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>It's inside, there's no bubbles. But when you open it

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 2>up and introduce air and change the air pressure, the

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>atmospheric pressure inside the can, all that gas turns into

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 2>bubbles carbonation of CO two, carbonation, and that would be

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the same thing that happened in your tissues and joints.

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 2>And that is not something that you want to happen.

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 3>No, if you want a topo chico or a soda

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 3>or a nice frothy beer, you want that then carbonated.

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 3>You don't want your insides of your body carbonated.

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 2>No, you definitely don't, because it's agonizing. Apparently sailors named

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>it the bends because you be doubled over in agony.

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 2>That does not sound great. And then on top of

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>it just being extraordinarily painful, it can kill you in

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 2>some some circumstances. So there's they've figured out that you

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 2>actually you can stay down at a certain depth for

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 2>a certain amount of time, and then if you do,

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 2>you're going to have to do what are known as

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 2>decompression stops on the way back up.

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 3>That's right in your way. You gotta know how deep

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 3>are you gotta stop when you're supposed to. You got

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 3>to hang out for a little body, give your body

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 3>a chance to equalize the pressure, and then you go

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 3>up a little bit more and then do it again.

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 3>And obviously this is all completely regulated by your dive instructor.

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 3>They're telling you what to do, unless you know you're

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 3>out there on your own and your like super experience,

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 3>you know how to do all this stuff. But they're

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 3>telling you how much time you need to spend at

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 3>what depth to ascend safely. Just to give you, Dave

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 3>dug up this kind of fun fact about the I

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 3>think the deepest scuba dive on record was over a

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:09.239
<v Speaker 3>thousand feet by an Egyptian diver named Ahmed Geber and

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 3>fourteen minutes down I imagine you just you've seen the

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 3>videos of those deep divers where they just put on

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 3>the gear and they have some sort of a weight

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 3>and they just get dragged to like the bottom of

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 3>the ocean very quickly. It took fourteen minutes to get

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 3>down that deep, but it took fourteen hours to safely

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 3>decompress on the way back up.

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just slowly. I mean, that's that's crazy.

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 3>It's a long time. So yeah, a lot.

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Of the deeper dives, are you spend way more time

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 2>doing decompression stops than you do actually doing your dive, right, Yeah,

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>So you have to like calculate this stuff. There's tables,

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 2>there's dive computers that we'll talk about, but you have

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 2>to before you go into the water. You need to

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 2>know exactly how long you're going to be down there,

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>exactly what depth you're going to be at, And then

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 2>you have to know, based on those two factors, how

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 2>well many decompression stops you have to make in at

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>what depth back up on the way back up that

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 2>you need to stop at.

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Two words you're never going to hear scuba diving

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 3>are wing it? That's right? You don't want to wing it? Maynah, No,

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:19.479
<v Speaker 3>you definitely don't. You got altitude diving. So if all

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 3>this talk of going down, down, down and different pressures

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 3>and things makes sense, then it would make sense that

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 3>if you're diving in a lake, super super high above

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 3>sea level, that that would change things too, and it does.

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 3>If you're more than a thousand feet above sea level,

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a different experience. So you know

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 3>they're going to know what they're doing there too. As

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 3>far as you know how you're going to decompress and

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 3>going down when you're actually high up.

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Right, which it's strange, You're like, Okay, you're actually high up.

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>But because you're underwater and all that extra water pressure

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 2>it has apparently you're more exposed to decompression sickness at

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 2>high altitude dives than you are a below sea level.

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 2>You remember very famously in the Firm two things. The

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Firm introduced the world to red stripe beer and the

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 2>awareness that you can't scuba dive and fly in the

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 2>same twenty four hour period.

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 3>And my cousin and my uncle who lived in Memphis

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 3>at the time and were very briefly in that movie.

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh really were they the person on the beach?

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 3>My cousin was a little girl at the time, My

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 3>cousin autumn, and she was like a full screenshot of

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 3>her and another kid at the big company party early on.

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 3>And then my uncle Steve, who you've met that lives

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 3>out near San Francisco, he had like he was trying

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 3>to be an actor at the time. He had a

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 3>speaking line. I think, if I'm not mistaken, he came

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 3>into an office and said something about, you know.

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 2>These pretzels are making me thirsty.

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 3>I think that was it. Anyway, I didn't know red

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 3>stripe was that in the firm, Yeah, definitely.

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 2>No one knew what red stripe was until then, and

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden it was like the Hippus beer

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 2>on the planet because the.

0:34:58.160 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Eighties were so shallow.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's altitude diving and our little side trip

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>on the firm. There's also cavern diving and cave diving,

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 2>which are usually.

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Put hand in hand. Yeah, we covered those.

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 2>They definitely do connect. But really, cavern diving is just

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 2>not really going all the way into a cave, and

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 2>once you are out of the light, you are now

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.240
<v Speaker 2>cave diving. If you're in the light, you're cavern diving,

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>And so that means things like Saint OTE's and Springs

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 2>qualify as cavern diving. There's easy access to the surface,

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 2>whereas with cave diving.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 3>If you've gone and.

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Listened to that episode, there is no access to the

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>surface and you are completely out of your mind to

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 2>even try it once.

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 3>That's right. It's our episode from December twenty nineteen, Cave

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 3>Diving Colon Totally.

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Nuts yep, appropriately named.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Yet Ice diving. Yeah, you can actually go dive in

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 3>the cold, cold water under thick ice and go see

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 3>those animals like penguins and seals and things.

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Apparently there's a place called Romu Quarry in Estonia that

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.919
<v Speaker 2>has good ice diving, but in the summer. The big

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 2>draw is there's a sunken underwater prison there in the quarry.

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Cool.

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you can swim around those bars on the

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>on the windows and stuff like that.

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty neat. Oo sounds spooky, it does.

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 2>So what about the gear, Chuck? If you say, Okay,

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I like this, I want to go ice diving, I

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 2>want to go cave diving.

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 3>On do it all?

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.399
<v Speaker 2>What do I need to get? Josh and Chuck, Well,

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I say, we tell everybody what to get.

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 3>What do you say, Well, you got to get an

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 3>oxygen tank. No, no, no, you're not supposed to say

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 3>oxygen tank because it's not oxygen. It's a scuba tank

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.760
<v Speaker 3>or it's a cylinder. And like we said, it's filled

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 3>and not with just oxygen. It's air that you breathe.

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 3>You got to breathe like you normally breathe. Right, So

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be twenty one percent oxygen seventy eight

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.879
<v Speaker 3>percent nitrogen in those trace gases. They want to give

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 3>you a experience like you're used to as far as

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 3>breathing goes, sure, unless you do something called enriched air

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 3>diving that's got thirty two percent oxygen and less nitrogen

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 3>which they called nitros thirty two, and this lets you

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.800
<v Speaker 3>stay down there a little bit longer and you don't

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 3>apparently at all, I have to make those decompression stops.

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm sure that there's a depth in a time,

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 2>at depth that you would have to make decompression stops,

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 2>but they're there. It's much deeper and much more time

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 2>before you would have to. That's my impression.

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right.

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 2>There's also a BCD and a BCD in addition to

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>your tank. Your cylinder is probably the most second most

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 2>important piece of equipment for scuba diving. And the reason

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 2>why is because this is a little inflatable or very

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 2>importantly deflatable vest that you wear that, if you use

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>it properly, allows you to hover completely motionless, like during

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 2>your dive, and if you're really good at it, you

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 2>can use it to like back out of a place

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 2>upward or downward. There's just a lot of really neat

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>things you can do using this buoyancy control device. And

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 2>if you can't do it, then you might start going

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 2>up to the surface, you might be stuck on the bottom.

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 2>It takes a lot of practice, but when you get

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 2>it right, you can really gracefully and really smoothly move

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 2>through the ocean.

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean that's the videos you see. No one

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 3>does videos of you and snorkel fins going I can't

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 3>swim in these things, or my daughter crying on a boat,

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 3>or somebody floating up bobbing up and down with their

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 3>BCD being a pia. Yeah, exactly, you know, pia. Oh,

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 3>I see it, I got it all. Just looks like

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 3>all you do is just jump in that water and

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 3>you're just immediately perfectly floating and meeting nemo. Yeah.

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's a really great point, Chuck, because

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 2>it takes a lot of practice at this. Nobody goes

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 2>into scuba diving and it's just a natural at it

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>because we're not naturals at scuba diving. It's something you

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 2>have to learn. You have to practice that, but once

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 2>you do, it's very rewarding.

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I look forward to it. You got your regulator

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 3>which we talked about that different people help perfect over

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 3>the years, and that is going to regulate that flow

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 3>of the pressurized air into your mouth. They differ a

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.760
<v Speaker 3>little bit, but generally you have the first stage part

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 3>that's the one that actually attaches to the scuba tank

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 3>and is going to do that first sort of pressure

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 3>reduction to make sure you're not getting blasted out. Then

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 3>you've got your demand valve or the second stage that

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 3>goes into the mouthpiece that you're using to breathe, and

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 3>you're going to have a second mouthpiece. It's almost like

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 3>a backup parachute, right.

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a really great way to put it. If

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 2>you are out on a dive with a buddy, which

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 2>you always want to be on a dive with the buddy,

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and your buddy's air runs out, you have a second

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 2>mouthpiece that accesses your air that you both can use

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 2>as you start going back up. You can save your

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 2>buddy's life with the additional hose pretty good.

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Or I'd imagine if something went wrong with your own, right.

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess, but that would mean that you're actual

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 2>like your mouthpiece or something broke and you could use

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.239
<v Speaker 2>the other one. Sure, if that happened. If something went

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 2>wrong with your air, no, it would be just as

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 2>useless as your other one.

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 3>You know what happened when I was snorkeling what I

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 3>snorkeled for a few minutes and I went to put

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 3>that thing back in my mouth and it wasn't there.

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 3>It fell off. I was like, hey, dude, I'm not

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 3>feeling one. I can't there a do I have a

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 3>mouthpiece and a snorkel? And he would no, and then

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 3>he went, I see it, it's on the bottom. Let

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 3>me go get it. I guess it just became a

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 3>glipped or something.

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I forgot they are I think they do come

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 2>in pieces.

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Then well, no, this this was the tube, the whole thing.

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see. So you just had it attached to

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 2>your mask and it just fell away.

0:40:58.280 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 3>I see fell away.

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of masks, Chuck, By the way, you can have

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 2>a single lens mask or a dual lens mask.

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Did you know that. Yeah, I've also got for and

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:11.399
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna take it down there, one of those

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 3>full face snorkel deals, which I have used in swimming

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 3>pools and they're quite fun. But I did not take it.

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 3>But I do like the idea of sort of the

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 3>old school single lens.

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I do too. But the great thing about a dual

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 2>lens is if you wear glasses and you have two

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.720
<v Speaker 2>different prescriptions for your eyes, you can get prescription lenses

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:34.800
<v Speaker 2>for your mask, which I had one of those. It's

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 2>really neat.

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 3>It's helpful.

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Although you can also just wear contacts like a normal person.

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Do you still have those that mask?

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Don't know where it is.

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:46.959
<v Speaker 2>I don't have it handy, so I'm not sure where.

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, your prescription might have changed anyone. You should just

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:50.720
<v Speaker 3>get a new one. It's true.

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I just wear contacts now, I could use any mask.

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's true. What else, Well, we got the spins.

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 3>You don't call them flippers because they're going to make

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 3>fun of you. So you got those fins, and they

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 3>are pretty standard. They're the ones that I saw mostly

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 3>were split fins, and they are just there's no getting

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 3>around it. Those things are awkward to swim in if

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 3>you're not used to them. I felt just like I

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 3>was stepping on my It's kind of like we're in

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 3>snow skis. It just felt very awkward.

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, also, in addition to being awkward, you can really

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.400
<v Speaker 2>accidentally tear up coral or do all sorts of stuff

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>if you're not you know, adept at using your fins,

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 2>or you're not aware of where your body is. So

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.439
<v Speaker 2>it is, it is. It's not just you to add

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:34.320
<v Speaker 2>trouble with fins.

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my toe on my left foot kept cramping up too.

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Man, It's not a terrible experience.

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 3>It was. It was great once I took those things off,

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 3>so one of them.

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 2>So, scuba diving is a very expensive hobby. It's an

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 2>expensive upfront, it's expensive during, it's expensive after. It's just

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 2>an expensive hobby. And one of the things that has

0:42:56.239 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the most expense is a one time well expense is

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:01.800
<v Speaker 2>your dive computer.

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 2>It's essentially a giant watch that gives you all the

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 2>data you need for your dive. And I saw I

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 2>did not know this, but Apple has one coming out

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>called the Oceanic Plus, which looks pretty awesome. It's probably

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be a million dollars. But there's much more

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 2>like affordable dive computers slash watches available and they're all

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 2>going to basically tell you the same stuff, right I hope.

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.359
<v Speaker 3>So, I mean they're going to tell you, you know,

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 3>how deep you are, how deep it gets below you,

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 3>how much air you've got in that tank, how cold

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:43.320
<v Speaker 3>or hot the water is, your compress your decompression status.

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 3>This is the Yeah, like all the it just says chili.

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, all the stuff that you need to know

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 3>about your ascension when you're going back up to the

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 3>top is going to be there. And you know, as

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 3>far as whether or not to invest is a purchase

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 3>with all this stuff, it's up to you. Like I would,

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 3>I would say, go out and give it a shot.

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>And if you really really love it, and it's the

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of thing where you're like, well, hey, I know

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:09.360
<v Speaker 3>every year we go to this island, and you know,

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 3>it might be worth it to go ahead and invest

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 3>in buying your own stuff. Probably not the tanks and

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 3>all that, but the mask and the snorkel and the

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 3>fins and maybe a dive watch and stuff like that.

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the dive watch also. I mean, like if

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>you're going on a dive that's you know, led by somebody,

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 2>that dive master is probably going to have the dive

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 2>computer and you don't really need your own because the

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 2>dive master is going to tell you where you go

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 2>and win. But I mean they're pretty slick apparently they'll

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 2>tell you to slow down if you're a sending too fast,

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 2>where to stop, when to stop. It's just it's pretty neat.

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine what they did before dive computers. It

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 2>just must have been exponentially more dangerous than it is

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 2>today with dive.

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Computers, I would imagine. And as far as investment goes,

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 3>the same goes for your wetsuit, even if it's you know,

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 3>if you're going down, even if the water it's a

0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:03.880
<v Speaker 3>hot day and the water feels warm, it can you

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 3>know the water's gonna get colder, and you may want

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 3>that wetsuit and you wetsuits are awkward and weird too, so,

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 3>but they work if you find it. If you find

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 3>a good wetsuit that fits, and you're going to be

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 3>doing it a lot, maybe buy your wetsuit. Yes, and

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, or if you don't like putting your stuff

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 3>in things that other people's stuff has been in.

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Here exactly because those are very tight fitting for a reason.

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 2>You let a little water in there, and then your

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 2>body warms the water, and the warm water keeps your

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 2>body warm in return. They work really well. There's also

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 2>the dry suit for water below fifty degrees and you

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 2>might say, well, then when do you need a wetsuit?

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Apparently water is warm as eighty degrees farent height can

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.240
<v Speaker 2>give you hypothermia if you're in there long enough.

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so even if the water feels warm and you

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 2>get in, you still probably want a wetsuit while you're

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:52.240
<v Speaker 2>scuba diving.

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 3>We mentioned the rebreather earlier that was sort of invented

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 3>early on by Lambertson but then perfected later. But this

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 3>is what you do if you don't well for a

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 3>few reasons, but one reason, if you don't want those

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 3>bubbles coming out, you can get a rebreather. That is

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 3>exactly what it sounds like. It's going to capture the

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 3>air that you're exhaling, scrub that CO two off of it,

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 3>and then add back in the oxygen to make it

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 3>breathable air again. And you know the military disease. If

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 3>you're an underwater photographer, you might want to use these,

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 3>and it allows you to dive longer, and you know,

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 3>if you want to stay down there for a while,

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 3>rebreather might be for you. Yeah.

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Apparently the record of staying down using a rebreather is

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and forty five hours. My guy named Saddam

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 2>al Kalini. Yeah, pretty pretty impressive. So I say we

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 2>take our second break and come back and talk a

0:46:49.640 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 2>little bit more about scuba. Okay, Chuck. So if you

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 2>are going to go scuba diving and you don't have

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 2>a certification, you go get in the water, the scuba

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 2>police will probably arrest.

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 3>You no matter where you are in the world.

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 2>True or false.

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 3>That's false. And it kind of surprised me that there

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 3>are no laws per se or not even per se,

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 3>there are no laws that you have to have a license.

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:45.760
<v Speaker 3>It's just sort of one of those things where A

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 3>it's really really really really smart to do that so

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:52.359
<v Speaker 3>you know what you're doing safely, and B I would

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 3>dare say almost any dive outfit in the world will

0:47:57.200 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 3>require that you have that. Maybe there's some super janky ones,

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know if i'd get on one of

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 3>those boats. If they're like, like, nah, you don't need

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 3>a card, who cares? You don't want I wouldn't. I

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't go with that. So they're going to ask you

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 3>for your card because they're.

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Risks even to fill up your tank. If you show up,

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 2>they'll ask to see your certification your card.

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh so you don't just run off and then you know,

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 3>do your own solo dive.

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 2>I guess, I guess. I think it's just like they

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.320
<v Speaker 2>just want to make sure that nobody who isn't trained

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 2>is scuba diving, and that's a good way to do it. Yeah,

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 2>so if you want to get certified, there's a few

0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:36.799
<v Speaker 2>ways to do it. One of the most popular ways

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:40.879
<v Speaker 2>to do it is is called Discover Scuba, and it's

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 2>a very shortened abbreviated version of the sort of certification

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 2>process where you go to like a resort and you

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 2>take like a less than an hour of classroom time,

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.239
<v Speaker 2>you go into the pool, you do a test dive,

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 2>and then you go, you know, down to the beach

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and get in the water and scuba around. It's probably

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 2>where other people are snork. It's very low risk and

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 2>you're not fully certified after that, but it's enough for

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 2>you to go enjoy scuba on vacation without having to

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 2>go get certified first.

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're not going to be super deep. You're probably

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.280
<v Speaker 3>not going to be out with like a good coral

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 3>reef or anything either. You never know, I guess you

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 3>never It depends on where it is. But you know this,

0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 3>we run a boat for you know, twelve thirteen minutes,

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 3>like kind of hauling out into the ocean to get

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 3>to this one neat or are they right off the

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 3>beach Sometimes sometimes yeah, they can be what do I know?

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's surfers will get tangled up in coral

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it can be a real hazard.

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, those are deep water surfers.

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 2>So that's the most basic way to get certified, and

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 2>again you're not actually certified. The basic certification, the open

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 2>water certification usually takes a few days to complete, at

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 2>least just even the first part. There's classroom time. They

0:49:57.280 --> 0:50:02.399
<v Speaker 2>call it theoretical where you're learning the thing. The guy

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 2>who I took lessons from said that you spend the

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:08.839
<v Speaker 2>first hour learning how to scuba dive and the rest

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 2>of the time learning how to stay alive while you

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 2>scuba dive, because it's actually not that hard to scuba dive.

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.720
<v Speaker 2>A lot of it requires practice, like inflating your BCD

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:23.479
<v Speaker 2>and achieving neutral buoyancy, but it's really just just it's

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 2>not hard to understand. It's hard to remember what to

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.840
<v Speaker 2>do when you're panicking underwater, so that you don't do

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 2>the wrong thing, and that's really the bulk of the

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 2>classroom time.

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's going to cost you, it depends, but you

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 3>know it's generally around five hundred bucks. You Again, you

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:45.319
<v Speaker 3>know you can do it whenever you want. If you

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:49.560
<v Speaker 3>want to go down on your vacation and spend time

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:52.960
<v Speaker 3>doing this, you can do that. But you're on vacation, like,

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:54.759
<v Speaker 3>it's probably smart to go ahead and get it done

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 3>before you get down there, so you can just hit

0:50:56.719 --> 0:51:01.239
<v Speaker 3>the water. And in every state in the country, like

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:05.520
<v Speaker 3>the least water like state in the country, has scuba

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:06.279
<v Speaker 3>classes you can take.

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because again you can be certified in like a

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 2>quarry and basically any state has at least a flooded quarry,

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 2>if not a lake, you could be certified. And for

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:17.280
<v Speaker 2>open water you only have to be ten years old.

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 2>There's no maximum age. But this is really important. If

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:23.279
<v Speaker 2>you have a pre existing condition, you want to talk

0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:25.839
<v Speaker 2>to your doctor about whether or not you should scuba dive,

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 2>because again, you are exerting yourself way more than you

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 2>think you're going to and if you say, have a

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:34.280
<v Speaker 2>heart condition or something like that, it can actually trigger

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:34.720
<v Speaker 2>a heart.

0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Attack in you.

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 2>And even without the exertion just the difference in atmospheric

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 2>pressure on your insides can accidentally trigger a heart attack

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 2>in you too, So it's it's definitely not something that

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 2>you want to just take lightly if you have a

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:48.720
<v Speaker 2>pre existing condition.

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:52.360
<v Speaker 3>No, I can't imagine any more terrifying than cardiac arrest.

0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Under the ocean. That's pretty bad for sure. Yeah, I

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:58.919
<v Speaker 3>guess in the ocean. You're not under the ocean. Under

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:03.879
<v Speaker 3>the sea, so you have to know how to swim, though,

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:07.439
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that's a given, but we should

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.279
<v Speaker 3>say it. You're gonna be certified for life, which is

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of cool. You're gonna get your little card for

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 3>you to misplace, and generally these days you can you

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 3>can have that stuff online on apps and things like

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:25.239
<v Speaker 3>that through pa d P a d I Professional Association

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 3>of Diving Instructors. That's kind of the big daddy, the

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Big Patty rather But there's also n aUI now E

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 3>the National Association of Underwater Instructures, and also SSI Scuba

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 3>Schools International, and they can all certify you. But like

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 3>I said, Patty sort of the biggest one. And you're

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:50.839
<v Speaker 3>gonna spend a lot of time early on with this

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 3>course learning the stuff like you've talked about, like most

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 3>of this is done you can do online at your

0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 3>house and over the course of you know, five to

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 3>ten hours, learn all the stuff. Learn the hand signals,

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 3>learn the terminology, learn the equipment, and kind of all

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:08.919
<v Speaker 3>the basics that don't involve actually getting in the water.

0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but if you have the time and the wherewithal

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 2>the go take classroom instruction for the first part. Like

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 2>in the classroom, you should take that opportunity because you

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:23.440
<v Speaker 2>will be hanging around the local scuba community. You'll be

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 2>immersed in it, rather than showing up the first time

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 2>for your what's called your confined water dive, which is

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 2>essentially where you put all the stuff you learned in

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 2>the classroom to use in a swimming pool in the

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 2>back of the scuba shop.

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:38.880
<v Speaker 3>So you'll know them and they can say, go, Josh, you.

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Got this proxactly. If they don't know you, they'll be like,

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:43.400
<v Speaker 2>you probably have this.

0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 3>We can't really say either way. Yeah, I have no

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:50.360
<v Speaker 3>emotional attachment to you though, so either fail or pass,

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't care.

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:54.080
<v Speaker 2>So I told you early on that having like just

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:55.839
<v Speaker 2>even a little bit of water over your head while

0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 2>you're breathing underwater is amazing and that's your first experience,

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 2>and that confine water dive in the swimming pool, it's amazing.

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:06.319
<v Speaker 2>It's also kind of boring because they're like, what does

0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 2>this hand signal mean? Or show me how you can

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 2>inflate or deflate your BCD that kind of stuff. You're

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:16.400
<v Speaker 2>just showing that you know what to do as a novice.

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 2>And then after that, if you pass that part, you

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 2>go do your open water dives, which is the real deal.

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like you said at the very beginning, you

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 3>need to get four to six of those under your belt,

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 3>depending on the certification program. You've only done the one,

0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:35.800
<v Speaker 3>but they don't all have to be in the ocean.

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:37.480
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to wait un till you go to

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 3>the Bahamas or whatever. You can do that at a

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 3>nearby lake or that what do you keep talking about,

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:46.560
<v Speaker 3>the reservoir quarry, the Quary's You can do it there

0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:48.959
<v Speaker 3>if you know that they have it set up there.

0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:55.240
<v Speaker 3>And basically you're just gonna practice with someone there, learning

0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:58.719
<v Speaker 3>how to get that ear pressure equalized and like you said,

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 3>the buoyancy and just kind of getting it all down

0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:03.200
<v Speaker 3>pat because what you're really looking to do when you

0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:06.920
<v Speaker 3>finally go out to that coral reef is not be

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 3>hassled and feel very comfortable and at ease and know

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 3>what you're doing.

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a lot of people do the classroom and

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 2>the confined water dive at home and then go do

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 2>their open water dives on vacation. So you can start

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:20.480
<v Speaker 2>at the coral reef if you want. But what you're

0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 2>saying makes a lot of else as well too. For sure.

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 2>There's a big question about all this. And from what

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I read, the certifying companies or agencies or whatever they're called,

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the bodies, they don't like to talk about the inherent

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 2>risks of scuba like they acknowledge it is a risky activity.

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 2>It's riskier than staying at home knitting, but it's probably

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:54.640
<v Speaker 2>even riskier than is generally thought of. It's a dangerous

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 2>thing to do, and you should know that going into it.

0:55:57.480 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 3>For sure. Yeah, I mean not to scare anyone off.

0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm trying to scare people off.

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Danger is relative term. It's a relative term. But about

0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 3>one hundred people in North America die annually scuba diving,

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:20.520
<v Speaker 3>compared to forty six people last ski season in the US.

0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:24.280
<v Speaker 3>But there are a lot more skiers than scuba divers,

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 3>So that's about one hundred I'm sorry, another one hundred

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 3>internationally scuba diving. So that's a fatality every two hundred

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:36.280
<v Speaker 3>thousand dives compared to a fatality per one million skiers.

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.400
<v Speaker 2>But the scarier way to look at it is that

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 2>fatality rate is three point four to four point two

0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:46.360
<v Speaker 2>per one hundred thousand divers because many divers go on

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 2>more than one dive a year.

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:55.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I mean that's a low number to me still,

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 3>But like I said, everyone has their own risk tolerance.

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:02.359
<v Speaker 2>It is apparently if you go scuba diving and you

0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:05.680
<v Speaker 2>aren't alone, you're with somebody who knows what they're doing,

0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:09.160
<v Speaker 2>and that person that's taking you, the dive master, is

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:12.720
<v Speaker 2>not a risk taker, you're probably.

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Going to be totally fine.

0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 2>It's it's the foolishness is what skews those numbers, because

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:24.760
<v Speaker 2>something like forty percent of scuba fatalities came after a

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.960
<v Speaker 2>diver got separated from their buddy, and an additional fourteen

0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 2>percent came from people who were on solo dives like

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 2>they didn't they purposely didn't go with anybody, They just

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:36.720
<v Speaker 2>went and scuba dive by themselves. That is a very dumb,

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 2>reckless thing to do going dives. Fifty yeah, fifty four

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:44.400
<v Speaker 2>percent was these people didn't have a buddy with them.

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 2>So if you have a buddy with you scuba diving,

0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 2>which they say you always should have, like that just

0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 2>completely changes your risk exposure just based on those statistics.

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:56.720
<v Speaker 3>And they don't even have to be your buddy.

0:57:57.320 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 2>No, they're just called that. You can really dislike each other.

0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 2>As long as they don't want to actively harm you,

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 2>you're probably going to be safe with them.

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I would want someone to like me, at

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 3>least they we don't have to be best friends, but

0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 3>at least pretend, right, Yeah, like I want them. I

0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 3>want to know that they care about me.

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, OK, all right, that's a lot to ask. Okay,

0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I do have one more thing before we go. I

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 2>know we've gone really really long. But one of the

0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 2>things that as a common cause of death or at

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:31.120
<v Speaker 2>least injury is something you wouldn't think of. If you're

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 2>panicking and you like say your air runs out, you're triggered,

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:38.200
<v Speaker 2>you start swimming upward. First of all, you can get

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 2>the bends, but you're probably holding your breath because you're underwater.

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:44.440
<v Speaker 2>That's what your body and your brain tells you to do.

0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:47.320
<v Speaker 2>That's a terrible thing to do because as you get

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:49.840
<v Speaker 2>closer to the surface, your lungs are filled with air,

0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:53.000
<v Speaker 2>and that air is now expanding beyond the capacity of

0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 2>your lungs, so you can pop your lungs. You can

0:58:55.880 --> 0:59:00.640
<v Speaker 2>also create bubbles that go into your arteries and creates

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:03.680
<v Speaker 2>uh and it's it's just a bad jam. So there's

0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:08.000
<v Speaker 2>actually something called the SISA, which is a controlled emergency

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:11.320
<v Speaker 2>swimming ascent where you basically swim upward slowly as your

0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 2>panic mind can do while you're exhaling the whole way,

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 2>so that when you reach the surface, you don't have

0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 2>a lung full of air.

0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Pretty neat, Pretty neat. Baby's Got the Bins. That's a

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:26.200
<v Speaker 3>great album name. I think Radiohead.

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Baby's Got the Bens. It was the It was

0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:31.240
<v Speaker 2>the EP that followed Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Computer No, the Bins was their full length LP.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, this is the EP that they were testing

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<v Speaker 2>all the material out on.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Okay, I Got you Okay. So I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>figure out if you knew it was an actual song.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, but I'd forgotten when I was making the joke.

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<v Speaker 2>So for all intents and purposes, I didn't know. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you got anything else?

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<v Speaker 3>Just one more radiohead test, let's hear it. No I

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<v Speaker 3>got nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that means then it's time for listener mail.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a couple of kombucha corrections for us. This is

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<v Speaker 3>someone named Frederick over By Peterson overb overb Okay, how

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<v Speaker 3>do you know that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's a really great reporter named Peter Overbe, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's also I think his brother Dennis overbye

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<v Speaker 2>maybe and they spell it that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Be whitey okay? Well, and also probably so people don't

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<v Speaker 3>say overbye, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure kids say it anyway, but you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they do. So. Frederick brews kombucha for friends

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<v Speaker 3>and family and wanted to share a few things that

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<v Speaker 3>we got wrong. But very sweetly, Frederick just says, are

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<v Speaker 3>worth adding. You don't need a Scobe to start, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Store bought kimbucha is actually enough if you brew your

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<v Speaker 3>sweet tea and let it cool down, and then add

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of store bought kombucha drink to the tea.

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<v Speaker 3>The kombucha you add, we'll start eating the sugar. Inform

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<v Speaker 3>as Scobe seemingly from nowhere. So nice because it makes

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<v Speaker 3>it super easy to get started and you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to seek out that Scoby from your neighborhood social media pick.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty cool. And not all kombucha is related. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>all this is as beautiful as it might have been. Guys,

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<v Speaker 3>they are not a scoby's form when making some kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of vinegar. When making homemade apple cider vinegar, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>a scoby can form on the top. Now, I never

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<v Speaker 3>managed to make my own scoby from scratch, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen it several places and many guides on how to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. But it's not as easy as making kombucha.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is Frederick Overbe Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a lot, Frederic. First of all, great name, very stately. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for all the information that was great info

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<v Speaker 2>to If you want to be like Frederick Overbe Peterson,

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<v Speaker 2>then you can get in touch with this like they

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