1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: Chuck and Jerry's here too, And it's a good old 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: fashioned barn burner whiz banger of an episode. I ran 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: out of weird colloquialism. 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, just now, didn't you hear? Uh? Yeah, 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: but I just figured you were still doing them in 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 3: your head. 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: No, I was frantically grasping for another one in my 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: head and it was just dust and a tumbleweed. 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: So this is sort of continuing our underwater series we'll 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: call it. 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so stuff you should know. We've done, 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: like stuff that's like much more specific about the general 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: category that we're talking about. And now we're finally doing 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: the general category. 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did the diving, Bell did the butterfly, We 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: did we did cave diving. In fact, Cave Diving was 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: released as a as a select just this year. Yes, 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: such a good one. And uh, do I need to 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: remind you about the other related episode. I forgot about that. 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: I'll get you. 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, I remember the Scuba Cat episode. Didn't 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: you interview Scuba Cat? 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I mean for those of you who don't know. 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: The short version is many many years ago. In the 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: very early days of the podcast, occasionally we were sort 28 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: of told to do certain things, and two of them 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: really stand out to me. One of them was Scuba 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: Cat I know what I Know you do, which was 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: this guy who trained his cat to scuba dive. And 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: it's literally like a a blurb or maybe a little 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: fluffy news piece at the end of a of a 34 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: news program and there like do a stuff you should 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: know episode on this cat and this guy. Why though, 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: do you remember did they just want page views or something. 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: I guess, or else that guy happened to be friends 38 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: with you know, whoever owned the company at the time. 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: All right, So there, I think there was an article 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: on the website we worked for and they were probably 41 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: just trying to drive people to that. So we did 42 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: one on scuba Cat. I would really love that just 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: to be scrubbed. But then the archive, well, way to 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: go bringing it up. 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: Then what was I going to say, Chuck, wasn't this 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: thing in like a little submarine kind of is Isn't 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: that what the scuba diving was? 48 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think he built him a 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: little little outfit. Oh okay, wow, a little thing with 50 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: like a you know, a big bubble mask. 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: Okay, that's worth an episode. 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: We could redo it. We should two thousand and eight redus. 53 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: What's the other one you want to I know we're 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: going to say it. 55 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: I we could say at the same time. I think 56 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: he's going. 57 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: To be three two one innovators. Yeah, what can you 58 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: do with an Altoid's den? Yeah? 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: For real, Like, I don't know how that one came 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: up either, but we were instructed to do an episode 61 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: on tenovators and they were interesting, but not episode length. 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: Interesting even when they were six minutes long. 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a tenovator, Just for those of you who 64 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: don't know, they take Altoid tens and they do things 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: with them like turn them into radios. Maybe they hold 66 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: coins instead of altoids. It's just repurposation. And yeah, exactly, 67 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: it's repurposing an altoidenovation. 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: Very well boy. And we always talk about Jackhammers in 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: the sun like that's because we're literally too ashamed to 70 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: even mention those other two. But here they are. Go 71 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: listen to them. Just quickly wanted to say I got 72 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: back from Mexico and I did not scuba dive, I snorkeled, 73 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's fun, and I didn't. I mean, I 74 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: love the experience, but I learned that I and especially 75 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: my daughter are free divers. Oh yeah, she couldn't do it. Man, 76 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: We got her, I mean, she loves to swim more 77 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: than anything. And we got her in all the gear, 78 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: put her in the water, and she was bitch to 79 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: fit quite frankly. 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: Oh like, she couldn't breathe through the tube. 81 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: She does it in pools like it just you know, 82 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: when you're eight, things happen and you can't explain why 83 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: a kid will dig in. But she wasn't into it. 84 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: We were very frustrated, did not handle it well. She 85 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: asked to get back on the boat. She got back 86 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: on the boat and cried, while we scuba are sorry, snorkeled. 87 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: We're like, we're out here, we're gonna do it. You know, 88 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: you'll be okay. And then once we were done, she 89 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: asked the scuba guys or the snorkel guys, can I 90 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: just get in with my mask and free dive? And 91 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: it was in Mexico. They're like, sure, right, and she 92 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: did and she turned into a dolphin and I recounted 93 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: this on Instagram. It took some great pictures of her 94 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: just swimming like no kid has ever loved swimming before, 95 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: and it was just a big lesson for everybody. 96 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: I know what happened, though, I think, unless I'm misreading it, 97 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: she got claustrophobic from having to breathe through that tube. 98 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: Now she does it all the time in pools. What 99 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: it was I think was wearing the life fest keeping 100 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: her up on the surface. 101 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well you left that little detail out. 102 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's part of snorkeling. Is you gotta 103 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: vest on so that keeps you up top? And she 104 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: was like, no, no, no, I belong down there. My 105 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: home is the sea. As funny Prince Billy. 106 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: Says, I got youa okay, well that makes a lot 107 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: more sense. I guess I was just projecting onto her 108 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: because I used to get claustrophobic trying to breathe through 109 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: a snorkel. 110 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people on Instagram supported that and said, 111 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: you know, I have a hard time with this equipment too, 112 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: and I love to swim, but it was really that lifefest. 113 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: I think. 114 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well we finally established the root cause. 115 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 3: Then yeah, but here we go with scuba. 116 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I guess okay, So what does SCUBA stand for? 117 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: Chuck? Self contained, underway, breathing, uh, situation, appomattics, appomatics, apparatus. 118 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: That's right, scuba. It's actually like an acronym, but it's 119 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: so used, so widely used now it's a lower case word. 120 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: I'm not sure really, yeah, I mean like it's not 121 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: nobody does it with capitals and periods or anything like that. 122 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: It's just lower It's a word. It's its own word. 123 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: Now it's almost lost its meaning as far as like 124 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: the acronym goes. And yet it's gained so much meaning 125 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: over the years because as scuba has been around for 126 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: over the decades, more and more people have found the 127 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: joy of going underwater. 128 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: And I heard you laugh at me, by the way. 129 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: And breathe if you breathe fully underward, no snorkel, Like 130 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: your head is nowhere near the surface of the water, 131 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: and it doesn't need to be like significantly distant from 132 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: the water. It can just be like a foot below 133 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: the water. But you're breathing underwater. It's an amazing feeling, 134 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: for sure, and a lot of people have discovered that 135 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: over the years and said, scuba is the life for me. 136 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: Well, as of December twenty nineteen, you had scuba dived once. Yep. 137 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: Have you done it since? No? 138 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: And I'm actually a little troubled because I read that 139 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: you're supposed to go like three or four open water dives, 140 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: and I only went on one. So I've been under 141 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: the impression that I've been certified to scuba dive all 142 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: this time, and I'm like, I, is that true. I 143 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: can't remember where my card is or anything. So I 144 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: wonder if I actually wasn't fully certified or satisfied, I 145 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: would find it very dissatisfying if that were true. 146 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: Well, do you want to do it again? Because I 147 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: didn't get a good read on you in twenty nineteen. 148 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: Maybe I didn't know you then, like I know, you know. 149 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: Maybe because I before. The reason I didn't like is 150 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: because I got it made me seasick, like the air 151 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: mixture did not sit well with me, and then getting 152 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: on the boat in between dives made it even worse. 153 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: So I was like, I don't feel like doing this 154 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: over again, but I think enough times past that it's 155 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: possible I would try it again. 156 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: Well, I want to get certified now, for sure. I 157 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: did anyway before and we thought we'd wed our beaks 158 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 3: with snorkeling. The big problem I had, man was the fins. 159 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: I mean, there were a lot of currents, and I 160 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: just I felt like I couldn't go and get anywhere. Yeah, 161 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: And then at the end, when Ruby was free diving, 162 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: I did the same thing. I took off all my 163 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 3: stuff except for my mask, and I went down there 164 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: and I was like, all right, well this is I 165 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: feel like I can swim again. 166 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all It takes a lot of getting used 167 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: to because it is it's meant to help you, and 168 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: it does if you are familiar with it and comfortable 169 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: with it, but if not, it's all encumbrance. It makes 170 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: everything difficult. And like, yes, you just want to take 171 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: it all off and just free dive, like you're. 172 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: Saying, yeah, Emily was cruising around, but you know, we 173 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: saw a little my first like coral that I've ever seen, 174 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: like live coral, and it was beautiful and you know, 175 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: the little stripey bright fish and I was I was 176 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: in there with those guys for the first time, and 177 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: it was it was remarkable and amazing. 178 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: Was it a dory or a nemo that you saw. 179 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. It had I think yellow stripes. 180 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: I don't think it was technically a clownfish, although maybe 181 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: they're all types of clownfish. I'm not sure what's a clownfish. 182 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: I think like a dory or a nemo. I saw 183 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: this one big thing that was like the size of 184 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: a dinner plate. Another big flat guy. Wow, he was cool. 185 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: And then Emily saw sea turtle, which I did not see. 186 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: And then we also saw their efforts to you know, 187 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: with artificial reefs, with like these PVC sort of pyramids 188 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 3: that they were building down there. God blood anyway, people, Right, Yeah, 189 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: this coral wasn't in great shape. It was in parts, 190 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: but other parts were not great and that was sad. 191 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can thank the fossil fuel industry for that. 192 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: That's right, So Chuck. One thing that I had no 193 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: idea about with researching this scuba episode is that it 194 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: actually the scuba phenomenon, I guess you could call it 195 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: dates back to the mid nineteenth century, and it's not 196 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: like somebody had an idea and then one hundred years 197 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: later somebody actually created it. Someone in the eighteen sixties 198 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: actually created the first scuba equipment. 199 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 3: That's right. Are you going to say his name? You're 200 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: gonna make me do it, but I'll say the first name, 201 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: mid Benoir, Okay. 202 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: And it's a rook way roll or rock and Roll's 203 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: that what that means? I don't think so, but it 204 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: looks when you pronounce it, it sounds a lot like 205 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: rock and roll. 206 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, rooke and or roll. 207 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: Rookoy roll yeah, rock and roll. 208 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. So he's obviously French, and he was not trying 209 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: to figure out a way to recreationally dive in the ocean. 210 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: He was trying to figure out a way to help others, 211 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: rescue workers rescue people in collapsed minds because these things 212 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: would get filled up with nasty gases. And he was like, well, 213 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: I think I can invent the system that allows these 214 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: rescuers to go down there and breathe safely so they 215 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: can save these people. And he called that first one 216 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: a regulator for equalization of compressed gas A little on. 217 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: The noise, A regulator, sure, sure, so I guess it 218 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: was a little verbose. 219 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, or a demand regulator. Yeah. 220 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: And the reason it was a demand regulator, and this 221 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: is the this is the big deal like you could 222 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: feed somebody air continuously, but you're gonna use up a 223 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: lot of air. You might overinflate their lungs accidentally, which 224 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: is that it could be a problem with novices in scuba. 225 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: But a demand regulator means that you're only sucking in 226 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: that compressed air when you're breathing in. When you exhale, 227 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: that air is no longer coming into your mouth, into 228 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: your gullet. 229 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on demand, like the best movies. 230 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: And this guy along with a guy named Auguste Deni 231 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: Rouse Denay Rose dene Rouse, it was in there that 232 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: last one I think nailed it. But I think so 233 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: Ben Waughan Augos, let's call him. That they got together 234 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: and figure out how to turn this not just into 235 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: a mind safety equipment piece of equipment, but actually to 236 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: use it to breathe underwater. So they put the whole 237 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: compressed air thing in like a backpack. I get the impression. 238 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: It was like a fabric bag holding the compressed air. 239 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: They put that demand regulator on, and they were working underwater, 240 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: untethered from any boat, using the first genuine scuba in 241 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: the eighteen sixties. 242 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like the first Legit diving suit. Essentially, 243 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: they had lead sold shoes and they had weights hanging 244 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: under your arms. At first, there was still no mask. 245 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: They had used a nose clip, but then a year 246 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: later in eighteen sixty six, they brought about the first mask, 247 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: which was a copper helmet with a single window that 248 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: they called the groin because it was French for pig 249 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: snout and it kind of looks like a pig snout, Okay, 250 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: And they won for this. For their efforts, they won 251 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: the begold medal at the eighteen sixty seven World's Fare 252 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: called the aerophoor. 253 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they called it the aerophor, right. So, but again, 254 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: the thing about this is like you're like, yeah, I've 255 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: seen those before, Like there was a haunted one on 256 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: Scooby Doo. There's an air hose coming out of the helmet. No, 257 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: that's the distinction. There's no air host. They were untethered 258 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: to anything. They could roam as free as they wanted 259 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: on the seafloor. 260 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: That's right. 261 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: So fast forward a few years, geez, about seventy Yeah, 262 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: about seventy years there was another person who had a 263 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: very similar idea. What was his name, Christian Lamberton. 264 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well there was a guy in the twenties, eve 265 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: La Prio, okay, who and Dave helped us out with this. 266 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: Dave duck this guy up and it was sort of 267 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 3: one of the first sort of modern takes on a 268 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: scuba system. But the air still wasn't on demand at 269 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: that point. They adjusted the airflow like as they went along, 270 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: and then Christian Lambertson came along in nineteen fifty four 271 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: and did a couple of things. Well, actually he came 272 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: along in nineteen thirty nine with the Lambertson Amphibious Respirator 273 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: Unit or the LaRue. Didn't rename it scuba until nineteen 274 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: fifty four. But this was a rebreather. It still wasn't 275 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: the same thing. He had a CO two filter and 276 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: he was trying to pitch it to the military. He's like, 277 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: he was an American guy. He's like, look, this thing's 278 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: got no bubbles. So he pitched it to the Navy, like, 279 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: you know, you can sneak up on people in other words, sure, 280 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: And he pitched it to the Navy. They rejected it. 281 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: And then the OSS which the US had at the 282 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: time the Office of Strategic Services, would eventually become not 283 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: become the CIA, but sort of become the CIA yeah more. Yeah, 284 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: and they the OSS loved it and like their underwater 285 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: unit like started using this lamberts and scuba unit, even 286 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: though it still wasn't a it was a rebreather and 287 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: we'll talk about all that stuff soon. 288 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is more advanced than scuba. So this guy 289 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: basically just created the more advanced version of scuba out 290 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: of the gate, you know. 291 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: Interesting. 292 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is very interesting. And his invention was so 293 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: successful that it was used from the fifties to the 294 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: eighties by the US military. Yeah, unchanged kind of like 295 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: you know, you see like those mid to late eighties 296 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: movies and the cars are still look like they're from 297 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: the seventies because nobody updated their stuff until that four 298 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: Tourist came out in nineteen eighty eight and RoboCop. 299 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: It's like that, what a great movie. 300 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: You know. In the eighties they were like, this is 301 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: this is an old timey rebreather. 302 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: We need to update this, Yeah, exactly. 303 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: So there was a that's almost like a separate track. 304 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: Like Christian Lambertson was very much dedicated to inventing this 305 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: stuff for the military. He invented a more advanced version 306 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: of scuba call a rebreather, which we'll talk about. Like 307 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: you said, the much more familiar version of the scuba 308 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: story kind of went in parallel and started a few 309 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: about the same time as Christian Lambertson. And it was 310 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: a pair of French guys who up to Christian Lamberson, 311 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: they were running the scuba world. And it was Jacques 312 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: Cristeau and Emil Gagnum, and those two together are the 313 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: ones who gave the world scuba. 314 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: That's right. I saw Gagnan then also saw he was 315 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: French and it was Gagnon. 316 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's just I didn't want to attempt it. 317 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: I'm so tired of failing. 318 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: Oh no. So they got together, like you said, and 319 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: they kind of took Roquai roll. Yeah. Yeah, they took 320 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: his old arm demand regulator and said, all right, I 321 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: think we can update this thing. Gaignon and World War 322 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: two had invented a regulator that used cooking gas to 323 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: feed into the carburetor of a car because the Germans said, 324 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: we're taking all your gas Paris, and so he sort 325 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 3: of retrofitted a way to make a car work. And 326 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: Cusseau was like, this is brilliant. We can use this 327 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: for scuba. 328 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: And he's like, you want to huff cooking gas underwater? 329 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: He's like, no, no, we're gonna We're not going to 330 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: use the cooking gas gagnin. 331 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also scuba hasn't been so named yet. It 332 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: was still probably about ten years before that, so they 333 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: called it the to Jethrow Tolls de Light the Aquaalong. 334 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: Now I had an idea, and I don't know, maybe 335 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: I can convince you right here and we'll go back 336 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: and edit this part out of anytime we said aqualogue. 337 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 2: Just playing that one little riff, Yeah, exactly. I think 338 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: that we could get away with it. After hearing the 339 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: intellectual property episode, I think we could get away with 340 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: just that little bit. 341 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 3: Well, at the very least, you could play my mouth version, 342 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: because that's pretty and clear. 343 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 2: All right, we'll look into it in the edit. 344 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 3: It's funny our old pal friend of the show, Paula Tompkins, 345 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: every time the word aquaalong comes up, he gets upset, 346 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 3: well not upset, but makes a point of why did 347 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: Jethro Tol put that one line in there? It snot 348 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 3: as running down as notes. That line really bugs him, 349 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: does it? Yeah, it's pretty funny. 350 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: I've not heard that one. Yeah, anytime I think of 351 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: Paula F. Tompkins, I think Kik Cake Boss. 352 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: It's good stuff. Yeah. 353 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 2: So they didn't call it scuba yet, Custa didn't. They 354 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: call it the aqua Loong like you said, right, And 355 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: but it was the same thing. It was what you 356 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: if you go and take up this of scuba now, 357 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: it's essentially what you're doing, like what Cousteau was using. 358 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: And the reason it caught on is because he made 359 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 2: a movie called The Silent World that was released in 360 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: what fifty six, nineteen fifty six, and it was an oscar. 361 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: It was an amazing documentary and I was watching Hi, 362 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, Wow, there's some amazing wreck diving scenes in there, 363 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: but it's also hilarious. One guy like pulls the door 364 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 2: off of the hinges of a shipwreck to get into 365 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: the shipwreck. They're just totally like vandalizing this ship. 366 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 367 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 2: But I was also at the same time thinking, like 368 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: all that audiences have never seen something like this. 369 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 3: That's it. That was the ticket with Silent World, that 370 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 3: was there had not been a lot of underwater photography 371 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: and it blew mines in nineteen fifty six. Not only 372 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: did it when the Oscar it was the first Golden 373 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: Palm winner, it can for a documentary. Yeah, and stayed 374 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: that way until Michael Moore won for Fahrenheit nine to eleven. 375 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 3: Oh wow, and it grossed in today thirty three million bucks. 376 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: Oh not bab as a documentary. That's a theatrical doc 377 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: that's really really good money for sure. And also just 378 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 3: to finish up on going on. Sure, he was not 379 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: happy with that first version, so in fifty eight he 380 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 3: finally released what was called the Aqua Master Regulator and 381 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: sold a million of those up until like nineteen seventy two. 382 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 3: That was like the go to regulator, gotcha. 383 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, these guys essentially created the recreational version of scuba, 384 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: introduced it to the world through The Silent World, and 385 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: sat back and took kudos from that point on. And 386 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 2: if you watch The Silent World, it bears a strong 387 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: resemblance to The Life Aquatic with Steve Zizu. 388 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 3: No mistake. 389 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: And one other thing about Jacques Cousteau, I didn't realize 390 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: he worked for the French Resistance as a matter of 391 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: fact during World War Two. 392 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 3: Well, Dave, we're gonna have to do one on him 393 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: because Dave sent us this material. It was like, please please, please, 394 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 3: let me do one on Jacks and we went. Now. 395 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 2: Speaking of Dave, also Chuck. You know he has his podcast, 396 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: Bible Time Machine. 397 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about Bible stuff, but you don't have to 398 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: like you know, it's from like a historical perspective. 399 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: It's highly accessible. 400 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. I know. 401 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: But he had a blockbuster guest on the other day. Actually, 402 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: I think it came out a couple of weeks ago. 403 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: He had John Cleese and he interviewed him about the 404 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: life of Brian John Cleese. 405 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: How did that happen? I couldn't get a John Cleese 406 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 3: on movie Crush. 407 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how. They must have their ministers or 408 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: friends or something. 409 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was great, So big congrats to Dave on 410 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: the John cleece epp exactly. 411 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: And if you like John Cleese and you like Dave, 412 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: go listen to him talking to one another. 413 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Shall we take a break. 414 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: I think it's high time we finally made it through 415 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: the first section. 416 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: All right, we'll be right back. All right, So we're back, 417 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: and we're going to talk a little bit about the 418 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: different types of scuba diving that you can do. There's 419 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: the aforementioned open water diving that you talked about. That is, 420 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: you know, it's the most common one. It's what you 421 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: think about when you think about going on vacation, somebody 422 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 3: taking you out in a boat, throwing that gear on 423 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 3: you and saying, have a lot of fun, everybody. 424 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 2: But it can also it doesn't have to take place 425 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: on vacation or even in a tropical locale, or even 426 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: in like a sea or an ocean. It can take 427 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: place in a lake. Sure, it can take place in 428 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: a quarry as long as I think that I'm not kidding, 429 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: as as long as there's no what they call ceiling 430 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: over you, there's nothing between you and the surface of 431 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: the water, that's considered open water diving. And that's the 432 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: far and away the most common recreational diving. 433 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: That's right. And you can go down if you're certified, 434 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: and we'll get to the certification. You can go down 435 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: to one hundred feet with your advanced open water certification. 436 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well with the main one, the first one that 437 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: you get, just the regular open water diving certification at 438 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: sixty feet. 439 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: Oh okay, I wasn't sure if that was official. You 440 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: got to go back for the extra forty feet. You 441 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: want an extra forty it's gonna cost you. 442 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: So there's also night diving is another one fun, same thing, 443 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: but at night, and there's apparently a whole different world 444 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: out there in the ocean at night, which is pretty cool. 445 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. I love so swimming at night in the ocean, 446 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 3: but I can't do it. 447 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: I just like, I'm just I'm scared of dark water. 448 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: I get it, dude. Even an ocean swimming person like 449 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: myself was out in this water last week at night 450 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: and fine, having fun, but at a certain point I 451 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 3: was like, huh and then it's like I'll just casually 452 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 3: swim back in. 453 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would have started out with that, huh, Right, 454 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: It took me a little while. Yeah, but it does 455 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: sound pretty cool. Like if you're not afraid of dark water, 456 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: then of course just that would be a great time 457 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: to scuba dive. It's a little more dangerous though than 458 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: regular open water diving because you can get lost very easily. 459 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: So most of the time you're tethered to the boat, 460 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 2: so you can find your way back. 461 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: That's right. 462 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: What about drift diving? This sounds like you did the 463 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 2: reverse of this snorkeling. 464 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, drift diving is you know, oceans have those strong currents, 465 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 3: or certainly if you're in a river, and I think 466 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: the point of drift diving is to get dropped into 467 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 3: one of these currents and off you go. 468 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: Like those sea turtles and finding Nemo. 469 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah were they sea turtles? 470 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were riding like that underwater current. It was 471 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 2: like a highway that you could get on and. 472 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: Just zip off. I haven't seen that in a while. 473 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 2: I haven't either, but apparently it made a really strong 474 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: impression on it. 475 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: It sounds like it. 476 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: So it's cool because you don't have to expend as 477 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: much energy, which is like, well, who cares. Actually scuba 478 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: diving requires a lot of energy. It's really hard work, 479 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: so to save yourself any effort or energy is pretty great. 480 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 2: And then also because you're working hard, you're breathing harder, 481 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: so you're actually using more oxygen without a current than 482 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: you are with a current, which means you can conceivably 483 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: stay down longer because you. 484 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 3: Have more air. Yeah. That sounds great, Sure it does. 485 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: That's why people love it. 486 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 3: You got technical diving, which is an umbrella term for 487 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: most kinds of advanced diving that we're going to continue 488 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: to talk about here, and maybe we should just talk 489 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: about those because most of these next few fall under 490 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: technical diving, first of which is wreck diving. You can 491 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: go out and swim around a legit sunken battleship or ship, 492 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: either one that was naturally sunk or well nothing naturally 493 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: sinks I guess like that, or so not supposed to 494 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: at least, but you know, like one that was sunk 495 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: in battle or one you know. Now, they go out 496 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 3: there and don't use PBC like I saw, right, I 497 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: saw these little PBC pyramids. They will sink a full 498 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: ship and say, all right, do your work coral, Yeah. 499 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: Exactly, and they do it to form coral reefs. But 500 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: at the same time, also it's just something interesting for 501 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: divers to come look at too. 502 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think you're I think you've got 503 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 3: to be pretty advanced. Actually, if you want to swim 504 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: through like the kitchen or something like that, Yeah, generally 505 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: you're just sort of swimming around it, right. 506 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: You can do just regular basic open water certification diving 507 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: around it, like you said, on top of it. When 508 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: you want to go in it, you better add several 509 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: years to your diving experience. It's it's extraordinarily dangerous because 510 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: there's all in a shipwreck, there's all all sorts of 511 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: things you get caught on and get stuck on. You 512 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: can get lost if the ship's big enough and dark enough. 513 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: No, thank you exactly. 514 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: And like all of the other technical diving, it has 515 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: a ceiling. There's something between you and the surface that 516 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: would impede you from going up to the surface if 517 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 2: you needed to. That's when really makes it so dangerous. 518 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that sounds interesting and fun, but I'm 519 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 3: gonna stick to no ceiling. 520 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 2: I like watching videos of it. It makes my toes curl, 521 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: but because you know, it used to be above the surface. 522 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't. 523 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: I don't think I would want to wreck dive either, 524 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: but I like watching wreck diving videos. 525 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got your deep diving, which requires deep dive certification, 526 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: and I believe you can go down to one hundred 527 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: and thirty one feet and beyond if you're you know, 528 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 3: if you really get those certifications in order and you've 529 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 3: got the wherewithal. 530 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when you go and get your first 531 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 2: deep diver certification. The most they want you to go 532 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: down as one hundred and thirty feet forty meters, right, 533 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: But then I think with experience and like you hook 534 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: up with other deep divers, then you start going further 535 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: and further down. 536 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: But that's what's they make funny you at dinnert exactly. 537 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 2: But they they I mean, just the extra thought and 538 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: preparation and all the extra things that can go wrong 539 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: with a deep dive. It's amazing even if there's nothing 540 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: over you, between you and the surface, just being down 541 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: that deep as it can be very dangerous and forty 542 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: meters you're like, I mean, that doesn't seem like that deep. 543 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: There's like the Titanics at like twelve thousand feet or 544 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: something crazy like that. That's significant because your body's not 545 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: designed to be down forty meters that many atmospheres below 546 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: sea level. 547 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 3: No, and we'll get to decompression sickness and all coming out. 548 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about it here. How about that? 549 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: Oh, that sounds like a great idea. Actually that sounds 550 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: exactly as how we discussed it. Sure, so you've probably 551 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: heard of the bins. Yeah, that's sort of the common 552 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: name for decompression sickness. And that is a It can 553 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: be pretty rough. Apparently, it can be very painful. It 554 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: can be fatal, and it's caused by nitrogen bubbles. Nitrogen. 555 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: Nitrogen bubbles in your blood, in your bloodstream. That's the 556 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: problem with the bins. 557 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the air we breathe has like seventy eight 558 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: seventy two percent nitrogeny eight seventy eight percent nitrogen, twenty 559 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: one percent oxygen. The rest is trace stuff, right, and 560 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: that nitrogen typically at sea level or even you know, 561 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: higher than sea level. But whatever, I think, I just 562 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: made this more complicated than I needed to. But then 563 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: nitrogen typically goes through our body and where we expire 564 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: it breathe it out, it does nothing. It doesn't react 565 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: with anything. It's too hard to chemically deconstruct and use 566 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: for something else. It requires too much energy, so we 567 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: just pass it through. But when we're down breathing the 568 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: nitrogen that stays in our body at any given time, 569 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: when we're below surface, below sea level, it turns into 570 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: a gas and permeates our blood stream. But as we 571 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: go up, if that gas isn't absorbed slowly into our tissues, 572 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: it will form bubbles, just like when you open a pop, 573 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: a soda, a coke, whatever you want to call it. 574 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: It's inside, there's no bubbles. But when you open it 575 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: up and introduce air and change the air pressure, the 576 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: atmospheric pressure inside the can, all that gas turns into 577 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: bubbles carbonation of CO two, carbonation, and that would be 578 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: the same thing that happened in your tissues and joints. 579 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: And that is not something that you want to happen. 580 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 3: No, if you want a topo chico or a soda 581 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 3: or a nice frothy beer, you want that then carbonated. 582 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: You don't want your insides of your body carbonated. 583 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: No, you definitely don't, because it's agonizing. Apparently sailors named 584 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: it the bends because you be doubled over in agony. 585 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: That does not sound great. And then on top of 586 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: it just being extraordinarily painful, it can kill you in 587 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: some some circumstances. So there's they've figured out that you 588 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: actually you can stay down at a certain depth for 589 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: a certain amount of time, and then if you do, 590 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: you're going to have to do what are known as 591 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 2: decompression stops on the way back up. 592 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 3: That's right in your way. You gotta know how deep 593 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: are you gotta stop when you're supposed to. You got 594 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: to hang out for a little body, give your body 595 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: a chance to equalize the pressure, and then you go 596 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: up a little bit more and then do it again. 597 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: And obviously this is all completely regulated by your dive instructor. 598 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: They're telling you what to do, unless you know you're 599 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: out there on your own and your like super experience, 600 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: you know how to do all this stuff. But they're 601 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: telling you how much time you need to spend at 602 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: what depth to ascend safely. Just to give you, Dave 603 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 3: dug up this kind of fun fact about the I 604 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: think the deepest scuba dive on record was over a 605 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 3: thousand feet by an Egyptian diver named Ahmed Geber and 606 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: fourteen minutes down I imagine you just you've seen the 607 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 3: videos of those deep divers where they just put on 608 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: the gear and they have some sort of a weight 609 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: and they just get dragged to like the bottom of 610 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: the ocean very quickly. It took fourteen minutes to get 611 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: down that deep, but it took fourteen hours to safely 612 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: decompress on the way back up. 613 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, just slowly. I mean, that's that's crazy. 614 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: It's a long time. So yeah, a lot. 615 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: Of the deeper dives, are you spend way more time 616 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: doing decompression stops than you do actually doing your dive, right, Yeah, 617 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: So you have to like calculate this stuff. There's tables, 618 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: there's dive computers that we'll talk about, but you have 619 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: to before you go into the water. You need to 620 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: know exactly how long you're going to be down there, 621 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: exactly what depth you're going to be at, And then 622 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: you have to know, based on those two factors, how 623 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: well many decompression stops you have to make in at 624 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: what depth back up on the way back up that 625 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: you need to stop at. 626 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Two words you're never going to hear scuba diving 627 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 3: are wing it? That's right? You don't want to wing it? Maynah, No, 628 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 3: you definitely don't. You got altitude diving. So if all 629 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: this talk of going down, down, down and different pressures 630 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: and things makes sense, then it would make sense that 631 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: if you're diving in a lake, super super high above 632 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: sea level, that that would change things too, and it does. 633 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: If you're more than a thousand feet above sea level, 634 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: it's going to be a different experience. So you know 635 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: they're going to know what they're doing there too. As 636 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: far as you know how you're going to decompress and 637 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: going down when you're actually high up. 638 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: Right, which it's strange, You're like, Okay, you're actually high up. 639 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: But because you're underwater and all that extra water pressure 640 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: it has apparently you're more exposed to decompression sickness at 641 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: high altitude dives than you are a below sea level. 642 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: You remember very famously in the Firm two things. The 643 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: Firm introduced the world to red stripe beer and the 644 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: awareness that you can't scuba dive and fly in the 645 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: same twenty four hour period. 646 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: And my cousin and my uncle who lived in Memphis 647 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: at the time and were very briefly in that movie. 648 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: Oh really were they the person on the beach? 649 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: Now? 650 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 3: My cousin was a little girl at the time, My 651 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 3: cousin autumn, and she was like a full screenshot of 652 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: her and another kid at the big company party early on. 653 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 3: And then my uncle Steve, who you've met that lives 654 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 3: out near San Francisco, he had like he was trying 655 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 3: to be an actor at the time. He had a 656 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: speaking line. I think, if I'm not mistaken, he came 657 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 3: into an office and said something about, you know. 658 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: These pretzels are making me thirsty. 659 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 3: I think that was it. Anyway, I didn't know red 660 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: stripe was that in the firm, Yeah, definitely. 661 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: No one knew what red stripe was until then, and 662 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: all of a sudden it was like the Hippus beer 663 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: on the planet because the. 664 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 3: Eighties were so shallow. 665 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's altitude diving and our little side trip 666 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: on the firm. There's also cavern diving and cave diving, 667 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: which are usually. 668 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: Put hand in hand. Yeah, we covered those. 669 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: They definitely do connect. But really, cavern diving is just 670 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: not really going all the way into a cave, and 671 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: once you are out of the light, you are now 672 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 2: cave diving. If you're in the light, you're cavern diving, 673 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: And so that means things like Saint OTE's and Springs 674 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: qualify as cavern diving. There's easy access to the surface, 675 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 2: whereas with cave diving. 676 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 3: If you've gone and. 677 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: Listened to that episode, there is no access to the 678 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: surface and you are completely out of your mind to 679 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: even try it once. 680 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: That's right. It's our episode from December twenty nineteen, Cave 681 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 3: Diving Colon Totally. 682 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: Nuts yep, appropriately named. 683 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: Yet Ice diving. Yeah, you can actually go dive in 684 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 3: the cold, cold water under thick ice and go see 685 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 3: those animals like penguins and seals and things. 686 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: Apparently there's a place called Romu Quarry in Estonia that 687 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 2: has good ice diving, but in the summer. The big 688 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: draw is there's a sunken underwater prison there in the quarry. 689 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 3: Cool. 690 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you can swim around those bars on the 691 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: on the windows and stuff like that. 692 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: It's pretty neat. Oo sounds spooky, it does. 693 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 2: So what about the gear, Chuck? If you say, Okay, 694 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: I like this, I want to go ice diving, I 695 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: want to go cave diving. 696 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 3: On do it all? 697 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 2: What do I need to get? Josh and Chuck, Well, 698 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: I say, we tell everybody what to get. 699 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 3: What do you say, Well, you got to get an 700 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 3: oxygen tank. No, no, no, you're not supposed to say 701 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: oxygen tank because it's not oxygen. It's a scuba tank 702 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 3: or it's a cylinder. And like we said, it's filled 703 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 3: and not with just oxygen. It's air that you breathe. 704 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 3: You got to breathe like you normally breathe. Right, So 705 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 3: it's going to be twenty one percent oxygen seventy eight 706 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 3: percent nitrogen in those trace gases. They want to give 707 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: you a experience like you're used to as far as 708 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 3: breathing goes, sure, unless you do something called enriched air 709 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 3: diving that's got thirty two percent oxygen and less nitrogen 710 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 3: which they called nitros thirty two, and this lets you 711 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 3: stay down there a little bit longer and you don't 712 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 3: apparently at all, I have to make those decompression stops. 713 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 2: I know, I'm sure that there's a depth in a time, 714 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: at depth that you would have to make decompression stops, 715 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: but they're there. It's much deeper and much more time 716 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: before you would have to. That's my impression. 717 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 3: Okay, all right. 718 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: There's also a BCD and a BCD in addition to 719 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: your tank. Your cylinder is probably the most second most 720 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: important piece of equipment for scuba diving. And the reason 721 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: why is because this is a little inflatable or very 722 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 2: importantly deflatable vest that you wear that, if you use 723 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: it properly, allows you to hover completely motionless, like during 724 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: your dive, and if you're really good at it, you 725 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 2: can use it to like back out of a place 726 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 2: upward or downward. There's just a lot of really neat 727 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 2: things you can do using this buoyancy control device. And 728 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 2: if you can't do it, then you might start going 729 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: up to the surface, you might be stuck on the bottom. 730 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: It takes a lot of practice, but when you get 731 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 2: it right, you can really gracefully and really smoothly move 732 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: through the ocean. 733 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean that's the videos you see. No one 734 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 3: does videos of you and snorkel fins going I can't 735 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 3: swim in these things, or my daughter crying on a boat, 736 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: or somebody floating up bobbing up and down with their 737 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 3: BCD being a pia. Yeah, exactly, you know, pia. Oh, 738 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 3: I see it, I got it all. Just looks like 739 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 3: all you do is just jump in that water and 740 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 3: you're just immediately perfectly floating and meeting nemo. Yeah. 741 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's a really great point, Chuck, because 742 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: it takes a lot of practice at this. Nobody goes 743 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: into scuba diving and it's just a natural at it 744 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 2: because we're not naturals at scuba diving. It's something you 745 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: have to learn. You have to practice that, but once 746 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 2: you do, it's very rewarding. 747 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I look forward to it. You got your regulator 748 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 3: which we talked about that different people help perfect over 749 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 3: the years, and that is going to regulate that flow 750 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 3: of the pressurized air into your mouth. They differ a 751 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 3: little bit, but generally you have the first stage part 752 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 3: that's the one that actually attaches to the scuba tank 753 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 3: and is going to do that first sort of pressure 754 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 3: reduction to make sure you're not getting blasted out. Then 755 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 3: you've got your demand valve or the second stage that 756 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 3: goes into the mouthpiece that you're using to breathe, and 757 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 3: you're going to have a second mouthpiece. It's almost like 758 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 3: a backup parachute, right. 759 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a really great way to put it. If 760 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 2: you are out on a dive with a buddy, which 761 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 2: you always want to be on a dive with the buddy, 762 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 2: and your buddy's air runs out, you have a second 763 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 2: mouthpiece that accesses your air that you both can use 764 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: as you start going back up. You can save your 765 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 2: buddy's life with the additional hose pretty good. 766 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 3: Or I'd imagine if something went wrong with your own, right. 767 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 2: Well, I guess, but that would mean that you're actual 768 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 2: like your mouthpiece or something broke and you could use 769 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 2: the other one. Sure, if that happened. If something went 770 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 2: wrong with your air, no, it would be just as 771 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 2: useless as your other one. 772 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: You know what happened when I was snorkeling what I 773 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 3: snorkeled for a few minutes and I went to put 774 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: that thing back in my mouth and it wasn't there. 775 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 3: It fell off. I was like, hey, dude, I'm not 776 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 3: feeling one. I can't there a do I have a 777 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 3: mouthpiece and a snorkel? And he would no, and then 778 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 3: he went, I see it, it's on the bottom. Let 779 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 3: me go get it. I guess it just became a 780 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 3: glipped or something. 781 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot they are I think they do come 782 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 2: in pieces. 783 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 3: Then well, no, this this was the tube, the whole thing. 784 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I see. So you just had it attached to 785 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: your mask and it just fell away. 786 00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 3: I see fell away. 787 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 2: Speaking of masks, Chuck, By the way, you can have 788 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 2: a single lens mask or a dual lens mask. 789 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 3: Did you know that. Yeah, I've also got for and 790 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 3: I was gonna take it down there, one of those 791 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 3: full face snorkel deals, which I have used in swimming 792 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 3: pools and they're quite fun. But I did not take it. 793 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 3: But I do like the idea of sort of the 794 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 3: old school single lens. 795 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 2: I do too. But the great thing about a dual 796 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 2: lens is if you wear glasses and you have two 797 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 2: different prescriptions for your eyes, you can get prescription lenses 798 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 2: for your mask, which I had one of those. It's 799 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: really neat. 800 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: It's helpful. 801 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 2: Although you can also just wear contacts like a normal person. 802 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 3: Do you still have those that mask? 803 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 2: Don't know where it is. 804 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 3: I don't. 805 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,959 Speaker 2: I don't have it handy, so I'm not sure where. 806 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 3: Well, your prescription might have changed anyone. You should just 807 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 3: get a new one. It's true. 808 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: I just wear contacts now, I could use any mask. 809 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 3: Oh that's true. What else, Well, we got the spins. 810 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 3: You don't call them flippers because they're going to make 811 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 3: fun of you. So you got those fins, and they 812 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 3: are pretty standard. They're the ones that I saw mostly 813 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 3: were split fins, and they are just there's no getting 814 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 3: around it. Those things are awkward to swim in if 815 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 3: you're not used to them. I felt just like I 816 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: was stepping on my It's kind of like we're in 817 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 3: snow skis. It just felt very awkward. 818 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: Well, also, in addition to being awkward, you can really 819 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 2: accidentally tear up coral or do all sorts of stuff 820 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 2: if you're not you know, adept at using your fins, 821 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 2: or you're not aware of where your body is. So 822 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 2: it is, it is. It's not just you to add 823 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 2: trouble with fins. 824 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, my toe on my left foot kept cramping up too. 825 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: Man, It's not a terrible experience. 826 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 3: It was. It was great once I took those things off, 827 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 3: so one of them. 828 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 2: So, scuba diving is a very expensive hobby. It's an 829 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 2: expensive upfront, it's expensive during, it's expensive after. It's just 830 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: an expensive hobby. And one of the things that has 831 00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 2: the most expense is a one time well expense is 832 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 2: your dive computer. 833 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 834 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: It's essentially a giant watch that gives you all the 835 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 2: data you need for your dive. And I saw I 836 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 2: did not know this, but Apple has one coming out 837 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 2: called the Oceanic Plus, which looks pretty awesome. It's probably 838 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 2: going to be a million dollars. But there's much more 839 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: like affordable dive computers slash watches available and they're all 840 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: going to basically tell you the same stuff, right I hope. 841 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 3: So, I mean they're going to tell you, you know, 842 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 3: how deep you are, how deep it gets below you, 843 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 3: how much air you've got in that tank, how cold 844 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 3: or hot the water is, your compress your decompression status. 845 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 3: This is the Yeah, like all the it just says chili. 846 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 3: You know, all the stuff that you need to know 847 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 3: about your ascension when you're going back up to the 848 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 3: top is going to be there. And you know, as 849 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 3: far as whether or not to invest is a purchase 850 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 3: with all this stuff, it's up to you. Like I would, 851 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 3: I would say, go out and give it a shot. 852 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 3: And if you really really love it, and it's the 853 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 3: kind of thing where you're like, well, hey, I know 854 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 3: every year we go to this island, and you know, 855 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 3: it might be worth it to go ahead and invest 856 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 3: in buying your own stuff. Probably not the tanks and 857 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 3: all that, but the mask and the snorkel and the 858 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 3: fins and maybe a dive watch and stuff like that. 859 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the dive watch also. I mean, like if 860 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 2: you're going on a dive that's you know, led by somebody, 861 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 2: that dive master is probably going to have the dive 862 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 2: computer and you don't really need your own because the 863 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 2: dive master is going to tell you where you go 864 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: and win. But I mean they're pretty slick apparently they'll 865 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 2: tell you to slow down if you're a sending too fast, 866 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 2: where to stop, when to stop. It's just it's pretty neat. 867 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 2: I can't imagine what they did before dive computers. It 868 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 2: just must have been exponentially more dangerous than it is 869 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 2: today with dive. 870 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 3: Computers, I would imagine. And as far as investment goes, 871 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 3: the same goes for your wetsuit, even if it's you know, 872 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 3: if you're going down, even if the water it's a 873 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 3: hot day and the water feels warm, it can you 874 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 3: know the water's gonna get colder, and you may want 875 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 3: that wetsuit and you wetsuits are awkward and weird too, so, 876 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 3: but they work if you find it. If you find 877 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 3: a good wetsuit that fits, and you're going to be 878 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 3: doing it a lot, maybe buy your wetsuit. Yes, and 879 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 3: I mean, or if you don't like putting your stuff 880 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 3: in things that other people's stuff has been in. 881 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 2: Here exactly because those are very tight fitting for a reason. 882 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 2: You let a little water in there, and then your 883 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 2: body warms the water, and the warm water keeps your 884 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: body warm in return. They work really well. There's also 885 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 2: the dry suit for water below fifty degrees and you 886 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 2: might say, well, then when do you need a wetsuit? 887 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 2: Apparently water is warm as eighty degrees farent height can 888 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,240 Speaker 2: give you hypothermia if you're in there long enough. 889 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 3: Wow. 890 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so even if the water feels warm and you 891 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 2: get in, you still probably want a wetsuit while you're 892 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 2: scuba diving. 893 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 3: We mentioned the rebreather earlier that was sort of invented 894 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 3: early on by Lambertson but then perfected later. But this 895 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 3: is what you do if you don't well for a 896 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 3: few reasons, but one reason, if you don't want those 897 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 3: bubbles coming out, you can get a rebreather. That is 898 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 3: exactly what it sounds like. It's going to capture the 899 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 3: air that you're exhaling, scrub that CO two off of it, 900 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 3: and then add back in the oxygen to make it 901 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 3: breathable air again. And you know the military disease. If 902 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 3: you're an underwater photographer, you might want to use these, 903 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 3: and it allows you to dive longer, and you know, 904 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 3: if you want to stay down there for a while, 905 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 3: rebreather might be for you. Yeah. 906 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 2: Apparently the record of staying down using a rebreather is 907 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five hours. My guy named Saddam 908 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 2: al Kalini. Yeah, pretty pretty impressive. So I say we 909 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: take our second break and come back and talk a 910 00:46:49,640 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: little bit more about scuba. Okay, Chuck. So if you 911 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 2: are going to go scuba diving and you don't have 912 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 2: a certification, you go get in the water, the scuba 913 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 2: police will probably arrest. 914 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 3: You no matter where you are in the world. 915 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 2: True or false. 916 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 3: That's false. And it kind of surprised me that there 917 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 3: are no laws per se or not even per se, 918 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 3: there are no laws that you have to have a license. 919 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 3: It's just sort of one of those things where A 920 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 3: it's really really really really smart to do that so 921 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 3: you know what you're doing safely, and B I would 922 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 3: dare say almost any dive outfit in the world will 923 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 3: require that you have that. Maybe there's some super janky ones, 924 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 3: and I don't know if i'd get on one of 925 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 3: those boats. If they're like, like, nah, you don't need 926 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 3: a card, who cares? You don't want I wouldn't. I 927 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 3: wouldn't go with that. So they're going to ask you 928 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 3: for your card because they're. 929 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 2: Risks even to fill up your tank. If you show up, 930 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: they'll ask to see your certification your card. 931 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 3: Oh so you don't just run off and then you know, 932 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 3: do your own solo dive. 933 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 2: I guess, I guess. I think it's just like they 934 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 2: just want to make sure that nobody who isn't trained 935 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: is scuba diving, and that's a good way to do it. Yeah, 936 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 2: so if you want to get certified, there's a few 937 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 2: ways to do it. One of the most popular ways 938 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 2: to do it is is called Discover Scuba, and it's 939 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 2: a very shortened abbreviated version of the sort of certification 940 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 2: process where you go to like a resort and you 941 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 2: take like a less than an hour of classroom time, 942 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 2: you go into the pool, you do a test dive, 943 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 2: and then you go, you know, down to the beach 944 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 2: and get in the water and scuba around. It's probably 945 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 2: where other people are snork. It's very low risk and 946 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 2: you're not fully certified after that, but it's enough for 947 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 2: you to go enjoy scuba on vacation without having to 948 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 2: go get certified first. 949 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not going to be super deep. You're probably 950 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,280 Speaker 3: not going to be out with like a good coral 951 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 3: reef or anything either. You never know, I guess you 952 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 3: never It depends on where it is. But you know this, 953 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 3: we run a boat for you know, twelve thirteen minutes, 954 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 3: like kind of hauling out into the ocean to get 955 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 3: to this one neat or are they right off the 956 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 3: beach Sometimes sometimes yeah, they can be what do I know? 957 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 2: I mean that's surfers will get tangled up in coral 958 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 2: sometimes it can be a real hazard. 959 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 3: Well, those are deep water surfers. 960 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 2: So that's the most basic way to get certified, and 961 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 2: again you're not actually certified. The basic certification, the open 962 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 2: water certification usually takes a few days to complete, at 963 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 2: least just even the first part. There's classroom time. They 964 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 2: call it theoretical where you're learning the thing. The guy 965 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: who I took lessons from said that you spend the 966 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 2: first hour learning how to scuba dive and the rest 967 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 2: of the time learning how to stay alive while you 968 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 2: scuba dive, because it's actually not that hard to scuba dive. 969 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,720 Speaker 2: A lot of it requires practice, like inflating your BCD 970 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:23,479 Speaker 2: and achieving neutral buoyancy, but it's really just just it's 971 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: not hard to understand. It's hard to remember what to 972 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 2: do when you're panicking underwater, so that you don't do 973 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 2: the wrong thing, and that's really the bulk of the 974 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 2: classroom time. 975 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to cost you, it depends, but you 976 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 3: know it's generally around five hundred bucks. You Again, you 977 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 3: know you can do it whenever you want. If you 978 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 3: want to go down on your vacation and spend time 979 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 3: doing this, you can do that. But you're on vacation, like, 980 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 3: it's probably smart to go ahead and get it done 981 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 3: before you get down there, so you can just hit 982 00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 3: the water. And in every state in the country, like 983 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 3: the least water like state in the country, has scuba 984 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 3: classes you can take. 985 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, because again you can be certified in like a 986 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: quarry and basically any state has at least a flooded quarry, 987 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 2: if not a lake, you could be certified. And for 988 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 2: open water you only have to be ten years old. 989 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 2: There's no maximum age. But this is really important. If 990 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 2: you have a pre existing condition, you want to talk 991 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 2: to your doctor about whether or not you should scuba dive, 992 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 2: because again, you are exerting yourself way more than you 993 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 2: think you're going to and if you say, have a 994 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,280 Speaker 2: heart condition or something like that, it can actually trigger 995 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:34,720 Speaker 2: a heart. 996 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 3: Attack in you. 997 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 2: And even without the exertion just the difference in atmospheric 998 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 2: pressure on your insides can accidentally trigger a heart attack 999 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 2: in you too, So it's it's definitely not something that 1000 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 2: you want to just take lightly if you have a 1001 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:48,720 Speaker 2: pre existing condition. 1002 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 3: No, I can't imagine any more terrifying than cardiac arrest. 1003 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 3: Under the ocean. That's pretty bad for sure. Yeah, I 1004 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,919 Speaker 3: guess in the ocean. You're not under the ocean. Under 1005 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 3: the sea, so you have to know how to swim, though, 1006 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,439 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's a given, but we should 1007 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 3: say it. You're gonna be certified for life, which is 1008 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 3: kind of cool. You're gonna get your little card for 1009 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 3: you to misplace, and generally these days you can you 1010 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 3: can have that stuff online on apps and things like 1011 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 3: that through pa d P a d I Professional Association 1012 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 3: of Diving Instructors. That's kind of the big daddy, the 1013 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 3: Big Patty rather But there's also n aUI now E 1014 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 3: the National Association of Underwater Instructures, and also SSI Scuba 1015 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 3: Schools International, and they can all certify you. But like 1016 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 3: I said, Patty sort of the biggest one. And you're 1017 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,839 Speaker 3: gonna spend a lot of time early on with this 1018 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 3: course learning the stuff like you've talked about, like most 1019 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 3: of this is done you can do online at your 1020 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 3: house and over the course of you know, five to 1021 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 3: ten hours, learn all the stuff. Learn the hand signals, 1022 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 3: learn the terminology, learn the equipment, and kind of all 1023 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,919 Speaker 3: the basics that don't involve actually getting in the water. 1024 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 2: Yes, but if you have the time and the wherewithal 1025 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 2: the go take classroom instruction for the first part. Like 1026 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 2: in the classroom, you should take that opportunity because you 1027 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 2: will be hanging around the local scuba community. You'll be 1028 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 2: immersed in it, rather than showing up the first time 1029 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 2: for your what's called your confined water dive, which is 1030 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 2: essentially where you put all the stuff you learned in 1031 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 2: the classroom to use in a swimming pool in the 1032 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 2: back of the scuba shop. 1033 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 3: So you'll know them and they can say, go, Josh, you. 1034 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 2: Got this proxactly. If they don't know you, they'll be like, 1035 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 2: you probably have this. 1036 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 3: We can't really say either way. Yeah, I have no 1037 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 3: emotional attachment to you though, so either fail or pass, 1038 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 3: I don't care. 1039 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 2: So I told you early on that having like just 1040 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 2: even a little bit of water over your head while 1041 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 2: you're breathing underwater is amazing and that's your first experience, 1042 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 2: and that confine water dive in the swimming pool, it's amazing. 1043 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 2: It's also kind of boring because they're like, what does 1044 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 2: this hand signal mean? Or show me how you can 1045 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 2: inflate or deflate your BCD that kind of stuff. You're 1046 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 2: just showing that you know what to do as a novice. 1047 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 2: And then after that, if you pass that part, you 1048 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 2: go do your open water dives, which is the real deal. 1049 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you said at the very beginning, you 1050 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 3: need to get four to six of those under your belt, 1051 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 3: depending on the certification program. You've only done the one, 1052 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 3: but they don't all have to be in the ocean. 1053 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 3: You don't have to wait un till you go to 1054 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 3: the Bahamas or whatever. You can do that at a 1055 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 3: nearby lake or that what do you keep talking about, 1056 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 3: the reservoir quarry, the Quary's You can do it there 1057 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,959 Speaker 3: if you know that they have it set up there. 1058 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:55,240 Speaker 3: And basically you're just gonna practice with someone there, learning 1059 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 3: how to get that ear pressure equalized and like you said, 1060 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 3: the buoyancy and just kind of getting it all down 1061 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 3: pat because what you're really looking to do when you 1062 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 3: finally go out to that coral reef is not be 1063 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 3: hassled and feel very comfortable and at ease and know 1064 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 3: what you're doing. 1065 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of people do the classroom and 1066 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 2: the confined water dive at home and then go do 1067 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 2: their open water dives on vacation. So you can start 1068 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 2: at the coral reef if you want. But what you're 1069 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 2: saying makes a lot of else as well too. For sure. 1070 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 2: There's a big question about all this. And from what 1071 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 2: I read, the certifying companies or agencies or whatever they're called, 1072 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 2: the bodies, they don't like to talk about the inherent 1073 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 2: risks of scuba like they acknowledge it is a risky activity. 1074 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 2: It's riskier than staying at home knitting, but it's probably 1075 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 2: even riskier than is generally thought of. It's a dangerous 1076 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 2: thing to do, and you should know that going into it. 1077 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 3: For sure. Yeah, I mean not to scare anyone off. 1078 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm trying to scare people off. 1079 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 3: Danger is relative term. It's a relative term. But about 1080 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 3: one hundred people in North America die annually scuba diving, 1081 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 3: compared to forty six people last ski season in the US. 1082 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,280 Speaker 3: But there are a lot more skiers than scuba divers, 1083 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 3: So that's about one hundred I'm sorry, another one hundred 1084 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 3: internationally scuba diving. So that's a fatality every two hundred 1085 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,280 Speaker 3: thousand dives compared to a fatality per one million skiers. 1086 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 2: But the scarier way to look at it is that 1087 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 2: fatality rate is three point four to four point two 1088 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 2: per one hundred thousand divers because many divers go on 1089 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 2: more than one dive a year. 1090 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:55,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean that's a low number to me still, 1091 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 3: But like I said, everyone has their own risk tolerance. 1092 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 2: It is apparently if you go scuba diving and you 1093 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 2: aren't alone, you're with somebody who knows what they're doing, 1094 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 2: and that person that's taking you, the dive master, is 1095 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,720 Speaker 2: not a risk taker, you're probably. 1096 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 3: Going to be totally fine. 1097 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 2: It's it's the foolishness is what skews those numbers, because 1098 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 2: something like forty percent of scuba fatalities came after a 1099 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 2: diver got separated from their buddy, and an additional fourteen 1100 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 2: percent came from people who were on solo dives like 1101 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 2: they didn't they purposely didn't go with anybody, They just 1102 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 2: went and scuba dive by themselves. That is a very dumb, 1103 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 2: reckless thing to do going dives. Fifty yeah, fifty four 1104 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 2: percent was these people didn't have a buddy with them. 1105 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 2: So if you have a buddy with you scuba diving, 1106 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 2: which they say you always should have, like that just 1107 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 2: completely changes your risk exposure just based on those statistics. 1108 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 3: And they don't even have to be your buddy. 1109 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 2: No, they're just called that. You can really dislike each other. 1110 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 2: As long as they don't want to actively harm you, 1111 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 2: you're probably going to be safe with them. 1112 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I would want someone to like me, at 1113 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 3: least they we don't have to be best friends, but 1114 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 3: at least pretend, right, Yeah, like I want them. I 1115 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 3: want to know that they care about me. 1116 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 2: Well, OK, all right, that's a lot to ask. Okay, 1117 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 2: I do have one more thing before we go. I 1118 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 2: know we've gone really really long. But one of the 1119 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 2: things that as a common cause of death or at 1120 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 2: least injury is something you wouldn't think of. If you're 1121 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 2: panicking and you like say your air runs out, you're triggered, 1122 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 2: you start swimming upward. First of all, you can get 1123 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 2: the bends, but you're probably holding your breath because you're underwater. 1124 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 2: That's what your body and your brain tells you to do. 1125 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 2: That's a terrible thing to do because as you get 1126 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 2: closer to the surface, your lungs are filled with air, 1127 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 2: and that air is now expanding beyond the capacity of 1128 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 2: your lungs, so you can pop your lungs. You can 1129 00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 2: also create bubbles that go into your arteries and creates 1130 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 2: uh and it's it's just a bad jam. So there's 1131 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 2: actually something called the SISA, which is a controlled emergency 1132 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 2: swimming ascent where you basically swim upward slowly as your 1133 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 2: panic mind can do while you're exhaling the whole way, 1134 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 2: so that when you reach the surface, you don't have 1135 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 2: a lung full of air. 1136 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 3: Pretty neat, Pretty neat. Baby's Got the Bins. That's a 1137 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 3: great album name. I think Radiohead. 1138 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Baby's Got the Bens. It was the It was 1139 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 2: the EP that followed Okay. 1140 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 3: Computer No, the Bins was their full length LP. 1141 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 2: I know, this is the EP that they were testing 1142 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 2: all the material out on. 1143 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 3: Oh Okay, I Got you Okay. So I just couldn't 1144 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 3: figure out if you knew it was an actual song. 1145 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 2: I did, but I'd forgotten when I was making the joke. 1146 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 2: So for all intents and purposes, I didn't know. Uh, 1147 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 2: you got anything else? 1148 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 3: Just one more radiohead test, let's hear it. No I 1149 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 3: got nothing. 1150 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 2: Okay, that means then it's time for listener mail. 1151 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 3: Just a couple of kombucha corrections for us. This is 1152 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 3: someone named Frederick over By Peterson overb overb Okay, how 1153 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 3: do you know that? 1154 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Because there's a really great reporter named Peter Overbe, and 1155 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 2: I think there's also I think his brother Dennis overbye 1156 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 2: maybe and they spell it that way. 1157 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 3: Be whitey okay? Well, and also probably so people don't 1158 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 3: say overbye, right. 1159 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure kids say it anyway, but you know. 1160 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure they do. So. Frederick brews kombucha for friends 1161 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 3: and family and wanted to share a few things that 1162 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 3: we got wrong. But very sweetly, Frederick just says, are 1163 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 3: worth adding. You don't need a Scobe to start, guys. 1164 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 3: Store bought kimbucha is actually enough if you brew your 1165 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 3: sweet tea and let it cool down, and then add 1166 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 3: a little bit of store bought kombucha drink to the tea. 1167 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 3: The kombucha you add, we'll start eating the sugar. Inform 1168 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 3: as Scobe seemingly from nowhere. So nice because it makes 1169 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 3: it super easy to get started and you don't have 1170 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 3: to seek out that Scoby from your neighborhood social media pick. 1171 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. And not all kombucha is related. Unfortunately, 1172 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 3: all this is as beautiful as it might have been. Guys, 1173 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 3: they are not a scoby's form when making some kinds 1174 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 3: of vinegar. When making homemade apple cider vinegar, for example, 1175 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 3: a scoby can form on the top. Now, I never 1176 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 3: managed to make my own scoby from scratch, but I've 1177 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 3: seen it several places and many guides on how to 1178 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 3: do it. But it's not as easy as making kombucha. 1179 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 3: And that is Frederick Overbe Peterson. 1180 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Frederic. First of all, great name, very stately. Secondly, 1181 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 2: thank you for all the information that was great info 1182 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 2: to If you want to be like Frederick Overbe Peterson, 1183 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 2: then you can get in touch with this like they 1184 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 2: did by email. 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