1 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecop three and Out podcast. 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: We are now in uh, almost to the middle of May, 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: and just chugging along, UH in Quarantine and the Corona. 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: I guess some of you depend on where you live. 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: It's opening up and slowly but surely. I guess it's 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: hard to even say getting back to normal. I mean, 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: you gotta wear a mask in a store. It's not 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: exactly normal. But we will keep talking about football and 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: try to keep it normal and luckily, you know, as 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: it feels like. And I'm gonna talk about off the 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: top some of baseball and basketball's issues for trying to 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: get back up and running is probably unlikely for the NFL, 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: and there's a key reason why Booger and Tests. I know. 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: The Monday night football broadcast is something we've talked a 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: lot about on the show the last couple of years. 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Became official. I think last Friday, maybe it was Saturday. 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: All days run together. Now they won't be returning, UH, 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: and I have I have a thought on that. And 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: then what one thing I did like I mean a 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: lot of sports fans. I mean that I think they're 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: averaging a little under six million people. The m J 22 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: doc on Sunday. Another seven and eight were fantastic. What 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: I did is in my lifetime, I wrote the five 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: m J level docks I'd want on NFL teams or 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: NFL you know, like the Dynasty's. And I also picked 26 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: a couple of college teams. So basically the documentaries I'd 27 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: want to see based on these certain teams and kind 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: of their eras. And of course Middlecoff mail back at 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle. At John Middlecoff is 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: my Instagram handle also my Twitter handle d MS wide open, 31 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: slide right in there, ask questions. As we get here 32 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: into uh with no office O t as, nothing really 33 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: going on, I'm gonna need you guys, so fire in there, 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: wide open, hit me up any ideas you got open 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: anything obviously, any questions. And then of course, if you 36 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: guys listen on Apple or iTunes, if you go to 37 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: the three and Out podcast, leave a review. A lot 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: of you guys have leaved left a review last time 39 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: I check. We have like trying to get to that 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: four figure mark. If you like to show, leave a 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: little five stars, and if you hate it, leave many 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: stories you want. But let's start with this Major League 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: baseball and the NBA are having a lot of issues 44 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if you've followed. There's been 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: a lot of articles written from Woes and Ken Rosenthal 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: and they're just trying to get some parameters back so 47 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: they can attempt whenever the time is safe or they're 48 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: allowed to get the wheels in motion and coming back 49 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: and getting a lot of pushback from the unions, and 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: it's becoming a financial issue. It is not. They're not 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: having issues over the Corona right now. They're having issue 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: used well. The NBA is a little bit Baseball right 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: now is going back and forth over revenue sharing and money. 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: And it got me thinking, like when times are really bad, 55 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: when you get kind of fat and happy with something, 56 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: you're not used to taking pay cuts. It's one thing 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: if you own a business or run a business, you 58 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: ebb and flow and you see money come in and 59 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: you get things that happen and you pay out. You 60 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: have huge liabilities. Well, the great thing, unlike the NFL, 61 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: the Major League Baseball players, in the NBA basketball players, 62 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: the moment their contract is signed, they have zero liability. None. 63 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: You can break an ankle, you can throw your arm, 64 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: and you still get every penny. Think about this. We've 65 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: all read these stories, you know, like when a big 66 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: famous you know, Chris and Cavalery and Jay Cutler just 67 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: got divorced. Now there, I guess they haven't officially got divorced. 68 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: They filed for a divorce. But we've seen historically some 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: professional athletes and just famous actors, Tiger Woods whoever, go 70 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: through these public divorces where they pay these numbers, and 71 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: you're like, he has to pay her a hundred and 72 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a month in alimony, separate from child support, 73 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: just an alimony because she's used to a certain lifestyle. 74 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: And this comes by the ways. I mean, this could 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: happen with a girl paying a guy too. I'm just 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: using the examples that I can think of. And you're 77 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: just like, oh my god. And then you read about 78 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: it and she was like, well, I'm used to getting 79 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: this much money even though she stay at home mom 80 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: and just watch the kids. I've always thought it's kind 81 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: of crazy, but the laws of law, even though a 82 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: divorce crazy time. Ideally, no one wants to get a divorce, 83 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: and when they happen and you have a lot of money, 84 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: they usually become very expensive, and they usually become very, 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: very ugly because nobody ever wants to take a haircut 86 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: because on both sides they've become fat and happy. If 87 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: you have a lot of money, they become a little 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: less problematic. When there's less money at stake, but you 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: could argue money is all relative. It becomes an issue. Well, 90 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: right now you're seeing the baseball players who are not 91 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: used to taking a haircut. There are basketball players because 92 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: the moment their contract is if I signed a five 93 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 1: year deal in basketball or baseball at twenty million of pop, 94 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: so five years, a hundred million dollars, under no circumstances, 95 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: whether I rip up my knee, whether I start sucking, 96 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: whether I'm just half as good, it's irrelevant. I'm getting 97 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: every penny. Well, we see it every year in the 98 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: NFL when these contracts are signed. Two years later, the 99 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: contracts are relevant. It's like, oh God, if this guy 100 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: doesn't pick up his play, he might get cut. And 101 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: the players know it. It's why there's an intensity and 102 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: an edged every game. It's something that's really as you 103 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: see in the MJ doc. You're like, God, the nineties 104 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: basketball looks nothing like now. Guys actually tried. Guys actually 105 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: played every night because there was an element of like, god, 106 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: I'll get I'll get cut. I mean I don't. I'm 107 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: not making astronomicals amount of money. Well, when you start 108 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: in the NBA is having issues right now, the players 109 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: are like, yeah, we don't really feel like coming back. 110 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: We feel like they're kind of pressuring us to work out. 111 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: It's like, bro, I mean, just go work out by 112 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: yourself in the team facility. The season might come back. 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: Be ready. We pay you twenty million dollars. We just 114 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: want you to stay in shape, you know, tell Chris 115 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Paul to tell Adam Silver. We don't want to do that. 116 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: And they have Lefford because they're so rich. It doesn't 117 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: matter the average NBA salary seven million dollars, or if 118 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: the NFL, if they opened up the facilities, and they're 119 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: lucky they've been able to avoid all this because their 120 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: season has not taken place. But if they got to 121 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: a point where you know, we're gonna be able to play, 122 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: it's only gonna be six of the revenue we usually 123 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: usually produced. Because we want to have fans, we have 124 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: to take these haircuts because of these sponsors are pulling 125 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: out the players would immediately say yes, so we'll only 126 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: make six of what we usually make. Because again, no 127 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: one's lying here where everyone in my business, I'm sure 128 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: everyone listening, we've all taken either haircuts or had to 129 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: move money around, or lost business or had deals they 130 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: got pushed back that who knows if they actually come 131 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: to fruition at the end of the year. Welcome to 132 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: the pandemic and baseball. On basketball on the owner and 133 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: team side are having a hard time, you know, just 134 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: getting something going because their players are kind of fat 135 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: and happy. They don't need to do anything. They're all rich. 136 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: The average salary in the NBA is seven million dollars. 137 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: We're in the NFL. You have a lot of guys 138 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: making money, but they all know they have huge liability 139 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: because every single year, the majority of contracts, if you 140 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: have a major injury, they will cut you at the 141 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: end of the season and you might not be able 142 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: to get another one. So just because you have some 143 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: quote unquote four year, fifteen million dollars a year sixty 144 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: million dollar contract, we all know, well, there's actually only 145 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars of it guaranteed, So there is an 146 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: incentive whenever the NFL, And again this is all based 147 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: on if people can be healthy and they can play, 148 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: which it feels like we're headed that way. We might 149 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: have to do you know, fanless events as you guys. 150 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest UFC guy, but watched a lot 151 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: of UFC that was on ESPN on Saturday, and it 152 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. You you you felt like you were there. 153 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: You could hear the punches. It was just it wasn't 154 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: like anything I've ever seen. It was like quiet, but 155 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: it was it was. It was a powerful event just 156 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: to watch. Now would would these other major sports would 157 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: be a little different because the one thing, the octagon 158 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: is relatively small, so it's one thing to be on 159 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: a you know, at Dodger Stadium with no fans there 160 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: or I don't know. The NBA could probably play in 161 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: practice arenas in football. It would look like, uh, you know, 162 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: a scrimmage, but guys would be playing full go. But 163 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: it would definitely feel a little different. But we got 164 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: to adapt. And no one is gonna feel bad for 165 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: the basketball or baseball players because right now the baseball 166 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: players are bitching, unlike basketball and football, where there is 167 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: revenue sharing. That's what that's why the salary cap exists. 168 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: The salary cap is based on how much money the 169 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: league makes and then it gets split up throughout the players. 170 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: We're in baseball. There is no revenue sharing, but there's 171 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: also no salary cap. That's why you want to go 172 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: to the good teams because they pay all the money 173 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: or the high you know, the high value teams like 174 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: the Yankees, Red Sox, Giants, whatever, they pay huge money. 175 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: Teams like the A's in Tampa don't have to pay anything. 176 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: But all these players that are under these huge contract 177 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: even if you're not under a Bryce Harper contract, what 178 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: if you're under a thirty million dollar contract three years, 179 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars? You want? They want to have a 180 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: pro rated salary. And Baseball right now is saying we 181 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: need to do a revenue sharing this year because of 182 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: the corona, because our revenue is destroyed because a big 183 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: part of baseball revenue is based on fan attendance, which 184 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: the NFL is actually the opposite, is based on more 185 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: media than fan attendance. Though you can make a lot 186 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: of money from your fan attendants, especially if you have 187 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: new stadiums like I know the forty Niners make huge 188 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: money with the sweet sales. It's the biggest reason why 189 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: the Raiders and Rams and all these teams want to 190 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: get new stadiums because you make so much money off 191 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: sweet stales. You make so much money off even things like, uh, 192 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, bud light, And think about every NFL stadium 193 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: or every college stadium has bud lighter, cores light or whatever. 194 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: Those people are paying huge amounts of money for that signage. 195 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: So as I was talking to someone in the NFL, 196 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: is like, well, what happens if there are no fans 197 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: because bud lights paying you eight million dollars a year 198 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: to be at Levi's or be a so Far or 199 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: be at a T N T or whatever stadium. They're like, well, 200 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: there's no fans in the stadium, we're not paying that. 201 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, everything's negotiable. This is all uncharted territory. 202 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: And as you can see, baseball and basketball having a 203 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: lot of trouble because they're those players. Unions aren't just powerful, 204 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: they just don't necessarily need the sport. If it's gonna 205 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: go away the rest of the year, they can handle it. 206 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: We're in football. They're used to the mindset. They don't 207 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: have guaranteed contracts. They don't have set roster spots. I mean, 208 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: if you're like a seven year guy Pro Bowl Larry Wharford, 209 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: who had made three straight Pro Bowls was just cut 210 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: by the New Orleans Saints. That happened over the weekend. 211 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: Cut dude have been making Pro Bowls. See you goodbye, 212 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: Audios to save some money. I mean, the NFL relates 213 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: to normal workplace, just like us. And now it's not 214 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: a it's on a lot higher scale, but things are 215 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: always changing. Uh, they're basically the players are while they're 216 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: under contract. The majority of them are not that much 217 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: different than at will employees because at any moment they 218 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: can be had that contract ripped up. So it's really 219 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: why it makes sense why the league resonates so much. 220 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: There's so much incentive to work hard because if you don't, 221 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: you just will get replaced. And really, the only quote 222 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: unquote scholarships there ever are is when you overpay for 223 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: a player and he turns out to not be good 224 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: and you have to keep maybe one year longer than 225 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: you want to, or when you miss on a draft 226 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: pick right and you're not gonna cut the guy after 227 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: two years if he sucks like a first rounder. You 228 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: give him that extra year, maybe four years, but in basics, 229 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: think how many scholarships there are in basketball and baseball. 230 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, I would cut this guy. 231 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: I'd give anything to be able to cut this player, 232 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: but you can't. You're like, I got four more years 233 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: with him. Then you start trading him as just an 234 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: expiring contract or a money filler. And it's just it's 235 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: a business model that while when things are good, as 236 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: you know, for the most part, right unless we're in 237 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: a recession time, times are pretty good and you always 238 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: say that, you always hear this professional sports or everything 239 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: is certain things are recession proof. Like who would have 240 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: ever thought the casinos wouldn't be recession proof? Think about that. 241 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: They they literally are the worst possible thing for a pandemic, right, 242 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: you gotta shut down business and hotels, like there's literally 243 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: no way to make money. Think about Disney. Their entire 244 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: business model was like cruise ships, sports and amusement parks. 245 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: I would have been like, oh, Disney, we hit a recession, 246 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: that that will be fine. They're losing thirty million dollars 247 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: a day, and when when you're in bed with these 248 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: huge unions and you need them. I mean, they have 249 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: the players, but it's become a very very difficult proposition. 250 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: It's all it's all the money. It's all because of 251 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: cash and both sides. And you hear this often so 252 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: many times, like owners are greedy and humans are We're 253 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: all inherently a little greedy. We all think about ourselves first. 254 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: But when you read these comments like the NBA made 255 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: their union rep made about playing in a bubble, that 256 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: we would be like prisoners with armed guards. I mean 257 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: that that's that's an embarrassing comment. When you read baseball 258 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: players talking about how we will not play for revenue share, 259 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: we will only do pro rated salaries. Uh, it's like, guys, 260 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: are you living under rock? I mean, get with the 261 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: real world in football. I just I just don't imagine 262 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: us having these issues because the nature of the business 263 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: setup is always pretty volatile now and even on the 264 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: the the owners side, this year, I mean, they're gonna 265 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: take massive hits if they don't, uh, you know, get 266 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: to have suites and they got to give money back 267 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: for what if I'm paying twenty million dollars a year 268 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: for naming rights and I do I have to pay 269 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: the same thing when I'm gonna get no home games, 270 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean no no fans there. Now, you could argue 271 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: you're still gonna talk about the stadium a lot if 272 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: the games are being played, but these things are all 273 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: under consideration. These are uncharted waters, and sometimes an uncharted waters, 274 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to just you know, hit 275 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: some waives and just hold on for dear life. It's 276 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: literally what we're all doing. Whether you run a professional 277 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: sports league, whether you run a podcast, whether you run 278 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: a printer shop. This is everyone's getting hit. Maybe besides 279 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: like bezos and even he he's getting sued for trying 280 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: to force his workers to work. It's crazy times. So 281 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: I I feel zero sympathy for these players bitching and moaning, 282 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: and I look forward to if these if these leagues 283 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: can't figure it out, this is a chance for the NFL. 284 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean they're they've already separated, but to be in 285 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: a different world. Okay, let's uh, let's dive into Monday 286 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: night football, and some news broke Friday afternoon or over 287 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: the weekend that Booker McFarlane and Joe test It Tour 288 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: will not be back. And I want to state something 289 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: I've been hard over the last couple of years on 290 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: the broadcast. Start with Jason Winton. I've heard him interviewed 291 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: countless times. UH heard him on a podcast. He's a 292 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: really really high level guy, good guy, very good player, 293 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: had a hell of a career. Hall of fame. I'd 294 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: have to dive into that. Maybe not quite a Hall 295 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: of famer. We could argue that really really good player, 296 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: great career. I think he'd make a great GM one day. 297 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: Not everyone's made for the media. His personality did not 298 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: fit and it was just just not a good fit. 299 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that. Certain things we're all 300 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: not good at and we could be excellent at something else. 301 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: Noel will toward the guy. But then they doubled down 302 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: and they put tests toward Booger. And let me say 303 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: this on Booger. I heard him on Risilo's podcast. I 304 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: watched him for a long time. I've always been a 305 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: big SEC network guy. He's really good on the SEC. 306 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: He's passionate about it, he knows the players actually thought 307 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: on the draft wasn't bad either. I think he has 308 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: good He's solid in a specific role. Not everyone has 309 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: met to Kyle Games and Joe tested tour is good 310 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: for fights, and he's good for like Kyle Edged football 311 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: when you can hype it up. Wasn't good for the NFL. 312 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: I think these guys, I don't know any of them personally. 313 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: I know having listened to a lot of Booger and 314 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: Jason Witten seemed like really high character, good people. So 315 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, this job, you gotta be critical of people. 316 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: Bad announcers, awful and it's Monday night football. We all 317 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: have higher standards. It was terrible. One thing that I 318 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: was thinking about this weekend in football. Right, if you're 319 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: a general manager and you have several bad drafts, I guess, 320 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: unless you're David Caldwell and several bad signings, you get fired. Right, 321 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: Trent Balky had several bad drafts, several bad signings. Jed 322 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: York fires him. Mccagnen was ruining the Jets. Fired. That's 323 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: that's usually the way it works. You can think of 324 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: countless examples. You know, GM's actually don't get fired that often, 325 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: but once you make bad moves, it's really bad. Now, 326 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: when you start a new channel or you know, new 327 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: radio station, it might take you some time. Like look 328 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: at Sports One, it took them some time to figure 329 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: out who they wanted to wear. The first couple of 330 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: years they had those dudes from Canada. They're gone, try 331 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: some different things, some different shows. Ultimately you got Colin, 332 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: you got Skipping Shannon, You've got the gambling show. It 333 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: kind of works, right, You got all your your inventory 334 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: of games, non pandemic. You can set up your lineup. 335 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: It's sweet, but it takes some time starting a new 336 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 1: channel from scratch. It's not easy. ESPN has been in 337 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: this sector forever. They were literally the first. They have 338 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: been hosting games since what whenever the thing started in 339 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine for cable networks. They've had Monday Night 340 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: Football now for a long period of time, but they've 341 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: had NFL games forever. Part of being an exact in television, 342 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: whether it's at CBS, ESPN, Fox, whatever, like it's on 343 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: you to pick the talent, like it's your job now. 344 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: It's easy when a guy like John Madden or John 345 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: Gruden or Troy Aikman, if they become a free agent. 346 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: Tony Romo became a free agent, it was it was 347 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: everyone and their mother could be like, yeah, Tony rome 348 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: was good, right. If I needed a golf announcer, I'll 349 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: get Jim nance easy. Actually took some balls to have 350 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: Joe Buck do it. Joe Bux turned out to be 351 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: pretty good. I'll get Fox. Fox usually does some bullshit 352 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: and it tends to work. To put Joe Buck on 353 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: the US Open. The last couple of years for golf, 354 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: he's been good. You're not gonna bat one thousand. Sometimes 355 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: not gonna work, you know. I mean it was easy 356 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: for Fox in theory. Right to Colin Coward became available, 357 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: you'd be crazy not to sign him, sign him, change 358 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: you know the station, the channel? Well, when do you 359 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: have Monday night football? And you're trying to replace John 360 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: Gruden whoever? And I don't know who this is, and 361 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know why. I'm gonna waste too much 362 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: time talking about this, but it's kind of crazy the talent, 363 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: Like we're gonna blame Booger and blame Tests and even 364 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: blame Witten. Is it any of their faults? Is it 365 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: Jason Witten's fault that he retired? And they're like, you 366 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: want to call Monday night football? And he's like, yeah, 367 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: I'll do it. And they're like Booger who had been 368 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: working at the SEC network. They're like, hey, man, we're 369 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: gonna build you this little mobile. It's like a scissor lift, 370 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: and it's gonna drive you around the sidelines, and you're 371 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: just gonna chime in and say funny stuff. Then just 372 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: say what you see? What's shes supposed to say? No? 373 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: Of course he's gonna say yes. Joe Testator, who was 374 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: doing games when I worked at Fresno State, he was 375 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: doing like Fresno State, Nevada. You think he's like, yeah, 376 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'll just stay with you know, doing Oklahoma State, Missouri. 377 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: That's that's that's more fun. I don't blame any of 378 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: those guys for saying yes. Just like when you take 379 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: the wrong player with the seventh overall pick. What's some 380 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: players supposed to do? You know, I'm not gonna report 381 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: I should have been a fourth round player. Like you 382 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: know what if Cleveland Farrell, when Mike Mayock and Gruden 383 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: picked him, picked up the phone, was like, you know, coach, 384 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: I wouldn't pick me here. I probably belong you know 385 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: somewhere between thirty five and fifty in that range of 386 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: the draft. I'll never live up to what you're gonna 387 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: pay me in the fourth overall pick. So if you know, 388 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give your heads up. 389 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: I would change the pick right now. That's not the 390 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: way it works. Someone offers you a sweet job, usually 391 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: take it. So I don't blame any of these guys 392 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: for taking the job. It was a disaster, right, it 393 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: was just really bad. It wasn't good. But it's not 394 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: always like is it their fault or is it someone 395 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: that like why does more people ESPN? Not that this 396 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: would be public, we wouldn't even know who these people are. 397 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: But the people that should be blamed for this are 398 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: the people that picked them to take this job, whoever 399 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: those people were in ESPN. Because it was not Booker 400 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: McFarland's fault. I've seen him enough on the SEC networking 401 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: with the NFL draft, like he's a capable broadcaster. Should 402 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: he have been put on Monday at football? Of course not. 403 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: When you take these guys, I would give Greg Olston credit. 404 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: He's now been repping. When you talk for a living 405 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: or do media stuff, everyone thinks like, oh, I could 406 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: do that. I used to think that all the time 407 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: growing up forever listening to like Jim Rome or I 408 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: used to love you know, I don't know, if you 409 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: guys remember the show Love Line Adam Corolla and Dr 410 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: Drew and Adam was just so funny. It's like I 411 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: could do that, and you realize, Yeah, Adam Carol as 412 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: like one of the biggest podcasts going right now. Like 413 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: he's been a huge star forever, right wherever. People probably 414 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: watched Joe Rogue and be like, I could be like 415 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan, or I could be like Colin Coward. No, no, 416 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: you couldn't. Know. You couldn't because one, it would be 417 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: impossible just to start from scratch, and too, it takes 418 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: forever too. Uh, you know, Iron Sharpen's Iron. There's a 419 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: reason when Michael Jordan was getting ready to go back 420 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: to the NBA, he built a little bubble when he 421 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: was shooting Space Champ and had all those guys planned. 422 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: He needed to get his reps back, and he had 423 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: already had fifteen years of reps from North Carolina and 424 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: the NBA. This stuff is very very difficult. Broadcasting is 425 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: no different. Broadcasting is very very hard for someone to 426 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: just I just give my takes and my opinions, and 427 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: I guess I've had some success because I really don't 428 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: give a shit I'm not afraid to say what I 429 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: think you all are thinking, where a lot of people 430 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: in the media are kind of scared, you know, to 431 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: put their opinion out there, uh, or just really take 432 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: a stand. And I don't just take random stands. I'm 433 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take a stand just to say 434 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: I take a stand. If I say it, I believe it. 435 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: But I had to become comfortable at doing that. And 436 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: the more I do it, the more comfortable I'm at it. 437 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: And also the more that I watched, the more comfortable 438 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: I am taking a stand on something. Well, when you 439 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: put these guys in a booth that have never really 440 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: been in a booth, especially Jason Witten, like what do 441 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: you think was gonna happen? Like Greg Olsen, whenever he 442 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: does retire and he does games for Fox, will probably 443 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: be pretty good. Why because he had a three or 444 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: four years to practice, he has done games, He's felt 445 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: what it's like to call a game, to prep for 446 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: a game, you know, what is different than calling a 447 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: game playing in the game. So why when you hear 448 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: sometimes players talk about the draft like, I'm sorry, they 449 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: don't know what the hell they're talking about one because 450 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: it's not like they've ever been to a draft meeting. 451 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: They've never seen a meeting with the coaches beside on 452 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: hard knocks back in the day of what it's like 453 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: the ranked players, of what it's like to talk through players, 454 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: they just haven't seen that. It's why when you see 455 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: them go from playing like an l Way or a 456 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: John Inch like you. You put a microphone in front 457 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: of John Lynch right now, there is literally not a 458 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: subject he couldn't talk about when it comes to football. 459 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: That's why if John Lynch ever got fired or quit, 460 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: he would be so much more valuable in the broadcast booth. 461 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: Same for Mike Mack. I've played, I've coached what I haven't. 462 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: I've been a GM, I've seen it all. I've been 463 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: around the players on both sides. And when you just 464 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: throw a guy like you, you you wouldn't just put a 465 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: guy he just you know, the first time I ever 466 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: playing golf in a tournament, it's really unfair. I don't 467 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: remember this, but I guess I've heard the stories about 468 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman started in NFL Europe, like you get the 469 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: same with Chris Collinsworth. It takes time, you know, I 470 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: would say that Gruden is kind of an outlier, and 471 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear he's just a unique all time personality. 472 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: So ESPN really, you know, and I've probably talked some 473 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: shit about Booger and tests, definitely last year because it 474 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: was a bad broadcast. But now that we I don't 475 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: think like I like Booker, Actually I do. I think 476 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: he's a good guy. I actually think he knows his 477 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: stuff in the SEC. I don't blame him for being 478 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: bad at the job. I blame ESPN. They should be ashamed, embarrassed, 479 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: and they probably don't even get his enough heat because 480 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: the heat is directed at the talent when the heat 481 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: should be directed at the you know, the company and 482 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: whoever the middle manager is that put him in this position, 483 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: because if it was a coach or a GM that 484 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: had staked their career on like a player, like someone 485 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if he stook his career because I 486 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: doubt he did. But whoever's idea was this, it was 487 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 1: should probably pick a new industry moving forward. Okay, because 488 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: of the Michael Jordan documentary, the Last Dance, which I 489 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: think we can kind of universally agree, has been fantastic. 490 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: It has been awesome. Michael phil Scottie, Jerry Krausse, Dennis Rodman, 491 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: from Isaiah Thomas, Larry Bird Magic talking about Gary Payton 492 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: and Karl Malone, Charles Bark the whole thing. It's been 493 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: box office been fantastic, average like six million viewers an episode, 494 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: living up for the hype. So what I thought I'd 495 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: do is I pick five teams in my lifetime. I 496 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: was born in the eighties, so eighties and to where 497 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: we're at present day that I would like a documentary 498 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: on After thirty style, MJ doc whatever that I think 499 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: could be a fantastic ten part documentary. Ten and clearly 500 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: there would be you know anything, Vince Lombardi, you know 501 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: if you did before my lifetime, would be awesome. The 502 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: Al Davis, John Madden seventies Raiders would be elite. The 503 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: Steel Curtain Steelers would be awesome. Stallback Cowboys that you'd 504 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: have options in the sixty Bear Bryant, you'd have a 505 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: lot of football options. I did college and Pro. Number 506 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: one is a no brainer, absolute no brainer. The Pats 507 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: Brady Belichick, six super Bowls, nine appearances, the undefeated season, 508 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: the Flake Gates, I Gate, suspensions, trades, retirements, you name it, 509 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: We've seen it all, seen it all. They are. They 510 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: are Michael Jordan's of the NFL. Right Belichick is Phil 511 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: Tom is crazy as Michael. They are the Chicago Bulls 512 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: of the NFL. And like the Chicago Bulls who won 513 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: multiple had multiple three peats. I guess the only other 514 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: three piece has been Shack and Kobe. Like three pieces 515 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: don't happen. Hew, the Warriors, you know, had an unreal 516 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: five year run and didn't get a three pet won 517 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: three and five years. It's hard to do Miami heat. 518 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron won two and four. It's just we 519 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: might never see a three peat again. I mean, think 520 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: how difficult it was back in the early two thousands 521 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: with Shaq and Kobe. Is probably never gonna happen in 522 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: the NFL. I don't think we'll ever see a Super 523 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: A team wins six Super Bowls in nine years, or 524 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: excuse me, six Super Bowls in nineteen years. I I 525 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: don't see that happening. So that's the easy umber one. Overall. 526 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: Number two was a little tough. I could have gone 527 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: two different directions, and I almost chose the eddity to 528 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: barrowlow forty niners and people in the middle coffee bias. 529 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: I wanted the nineties Cowboys because, like the like the 530 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: Bulls documentary, and like the Patriots, there is a lot 531 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: of drama there. You know, you have polarizing front man 532 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, Jerry Jones. You have countless crazy things going 533 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: off the field, the White House, cocaine, drugs. You also 534 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: have championships. You have three championships in four years. You 535 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: have free agency trades, Dion Sanders, Charles Haley, just huge 536 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: moves on top of Hall of Fame players Michael Irve 537 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: and Troy Aikman, Emmett Smith, just be box office a 538 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: little shorter. But given it's the Cowboys and Jerry Jones 539 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Johnes, I think it would be fantastic. It's 540 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: kind of like it would be a little playmakers. Like 541 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if the Pats would be as crazy 542 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: like I don't I don't know if the Pats would 543 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: have a huge drug element the Cowboys would. When you 544 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: when I think nineties Cowboys, I think championships in cocaine. 545 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: That's the first thing that comes to my mind. So 546 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: I I think the cow of the nineties Cowboys really 547 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: the early nineties Cowboys. Five that little run would be 548 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: absolute box office three. I went Eddie to Bartelow and 549 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: the San Fransco forty Niners. Now they are kind of 550 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: multiple iterations over the Eddie run hires Bill Walsh, wins 551 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: the Super Bowls with Montana, the Steve Young element. Obviously 552 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: Walsh was kind of would be awesome behind the scenes. 553 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: Eddie to Bartelow a little like Jerry Jones before Jerry Jones, 554 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: kind of this crazy little Italian born into wealth like 555 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: his dad had a lot of money, bought the team 556 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: for not that much, turned it into a dynasty, was 557 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: buying players left and right before free agency. Then the 558 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: George c Fort Steve Young era. They ended up getting 559 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: rid of Steve Young. Eddie to Bartelow, tried to pay 560 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: off assemblyman or senator or whatever it was in Louisiana 561 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: to get access to a to a casino. Was the 562 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: Feds were involved, was kicked out of the league. I 563 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: don't know if you quite have the juice of the Cowboys, 564 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: But in terms of football documentary porn, it would be 565 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: up there, Montana, Young, Rice, Ronnie Lot, It would be sweet, 566 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: It would be really it would probably be a little 567 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: deeper into the football where the Cowboys and the Pats 568 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: would be a little more like the Jordan Dock and 569 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: a lot of drama. Now not saying there wouldn't be 570 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: drama with the Niners. Bill Walsh quit. You know Bill Walsh, 571 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: we act like a coach for like twenty five years. 572 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: He was an assistant coach for a long time. He 573 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: was not a head coach for very long. I'm pretty 574 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: sure it was Sev. It was kind of a short 575 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: run and he almost quit multiple times because him and 576 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: Eddie were always button heads. I think the Steve Young 577 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: Joe Montana stuff would be crazy if we had inside 578 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: access and cameras behind that, But I think that would 579 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: be elite football content. The drama, though, I've heard stories 580 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: some of the Niners usually get in trouble and get off. 581 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was a little like the 582 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: wild wild West around here too with the forty Niners. 583 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: But I don't think it'd be quiet as crazy. Uh, 584 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: now you're asking the wrong guy. I'd watch anything The 585 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: USC Trojans number four, Pete Carroll. The USC Trojans in 586 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: the mid two thousands were basically like an NFL team. 587 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: You had championships, you had Heisman's you had agents, you 588 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: had women, and you had money. You had now vacated 589 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: basically everything that happened under that time because it was 590 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: so crazy and USC in the Pact twelve and the 591 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: West Coast football had somewhat been dead, and they threw 592 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: their hat in the ring Ohio state, the U Florida State, Michigan. 593 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: It it felt like we had fallen behind out here. 594 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: And Pete Carroll, remember was not their first choice. I 595 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: don't even think he was their second choice, kind of 596 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: lucked into getting the job. He flipped a switch and 597 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: pushed the envelope quote unquote, maybe cheat a little bit again. 598 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm pro cheating in college. Everyone worth our salt is 599 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: doing it and started kicking everyone's ass, and I mean 600 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: everyone's ass. By the time they lost to Texas, his 601 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: roster was so stacked with players it was stupid. He 602 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: had really had that thing humming by that third year 603 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: when they ended up losing. But even as time went on, 604 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: they never they always slipped up once in a year, 605 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: but they would have teams that would have so much 606 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: NFL talent on it. It was stupid. I mean one 607 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: year their linebacking corps was like Clay Matthews, Brian Cushing, 608 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: and Raymond Luga. Every dude was drafted in the top 609 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: thirty five. Their linebacking corps. I'm not talking like three 610 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: guys on their defense went high. I'm talking about their 611 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: linebacking corps right his teams. We don't have anything out 612 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: west that it even looks like that now. It was 613 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: just maybe I'm a little biased on this one, but 614 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: it felt like because I'm an SEC guy and my 615 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: next team will be from the SEC, they felt like 616 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: an NFL team. I mean there were stories. I remember 617 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: one year when the Niners had the number one overall pick. 618 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this was a national story. The conversation 619 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: was like, could the USC Trojesan and beat the San 620 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: Fransco forty Niners? Think about saying that out loud right now. 621 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you probably have two guys on the USC 622 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: Trojans that would make the Niners right now. That was 623 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: a conversation. I was in college when that conversation happened, 624 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: And whether you agree or disagree, my answer is pretty clear. Yeah, 625 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: I'd probably take the Trojans, and I felt pretty good 626 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: about it. I was like, I take the Trojans. You 627 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: know now, in fairness, the Niners were an embarrassment. They 628 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: This has been the transition from the de Bartelows to 629 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: the Yorks, and Pete's team was just it was like 630 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: a traveling circus. They really were. We won't ever see 631 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: anything quite like that again, at least out in the pactual. 632 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: The Florida Gators led by urban Meyer, people act, you know, 633 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: like the SEC has been kicking everyone's asked for a 634 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: long time. I'm gonna push back a little bit now. 635 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: Most of my life they've had a really good team 636 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: or two, you know, like when I was Blee in 637 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: junior high, Spurrier had that thing role and they were 638 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: kicking everyone's but full more with Tennessee. But what they 639 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: have now, with like four or five teams that could 640 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: legitimately win the National Championship and are just producing all 641 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: the NFL players, feels a little different than it was 642 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: probably in the mid two thousands. When Urban Meyer left 643 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: Utah and went to Florida. He up the game, and 644 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: I think like Pete Carroll upping the game out west 645 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: and bringing in hard Bob, bringing in Chip Kelly, Chris 646 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: Peterson and just David Shaw. You know, it just made 647 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: it kind of raise the bar. I think Irvian Meyer 648 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: set the bar in the SEC and the conference owes 649 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: him a huge debt of gratitude. Now his team, in 650 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: the team I'm talking about, you could argue might be 651 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: as equally as entertaining as the USC Trojans. They won rings. 652 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: They had a murderer on their team. They had Tim 653 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: Tebow on their team. I mean they had guys from 654 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: Percy Harvin to Ray mc donald. I mean it basically 655 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: got kicked out of the league two just good players, right, 656 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: uh like, uh, I can't. I mean they have so 657 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: many pros, the Pouncy Brothers, The amount of star players 658 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: that went through Florida on Urban Meyer's watch staggering, just 659 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: like he did with Ohio State. I mean, just producing 660 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: pro after pro after pro after pro. Now, Tebow was 661 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: probably the most polarizing one, and you know, forever he 662 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: became like the standard of what to talk about. But 663 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: their teams were pretty unreal. And remember I think that 664 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: kind of forced Alabama's hand to get Nick Saban, and 665 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: then Nick Saban took it to another level and then 666 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: every SEC conference, you know, program has followed suit. But 667 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: that team with Urban Meyer for those two or three 668 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: years the cheating going on there. Uh, the stuff off 669 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: the field going on there, the winning on the field, 670 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: the domination on the field, see what you want. I 671 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: mean Hernandez dead now, and he murdered people and he's 672 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: just total scumbag. He was an elite player. I mean 673 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: an elite player, and that's at every position they had 674 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: guys like him. It was not a fair fight. They 675 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: had dudes, and I mean dudes everywhere. And I think 676 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: so I went Pats one nineties Cowboys to Eddie de 677 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: Bartalo forty Niners kind of encompasses twenty years. Pete Carroll 678 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: USC Trojans mid two thousand's and the Urban Meyer Florida 679 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: Gators is my top five documentaries that I'd like to 680 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: see in football. Okay, let's hit a Middlecoff mail back 681 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff Instagram d ms wide open and uh 682 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: slide up in them same as my Twitter handle my name. 683 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: Considering the high bust rate or lack of top performers 684 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: of first round quarterback picks, why don't more teams trade 685 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: down to ful film multiple spots or take a stet 686 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: at a position where you can have more guys in 687 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: the case they aren't elite since you can only have 688 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: one quarterback, there's no room for air at that position. 689 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: Whereas even Clowney, who doesn't live up to the hype, 690 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: but it's still a productive player, especially now fill out 691 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: the roster plugg in a quarterback like cousins Tyrod, Taylor Bridgewater. 692 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: I don't get why teams keep rolling the dice on 693 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: high picks at quarterback that hit or miss. Just check 694 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: the last twenty years of first round quarterbacks, most made 695 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: no impact. Great question, it's why why does anyone bet 696 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: Parlay's right? Why? Why have I invested in some kind 697 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: of low money marijuana stocks right now hoping to hit 698 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: it big? You know, because if you hit it big 699 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 1: on quarterback, it changes your franchise. Why did the Andy 700 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: Reid in the Chiefs and Beach trade up to get 701 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: my Homes? Why did the Texans trade up to get 702 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: uh Deshaun Watson? Why did the Jets trade up to 703 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: get They didn't know it at the time, but they 704 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: end up getting Sam Donald, or the Bills trade up 705 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: to get Josh Allen or the Eagles to get Carson Wentz. 706 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: Because if you hit even before you know what the 707 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: guy's gonna look like, you're hoping to get a star 708 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: and if you have a star quarterback, you have a 709 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: good team. It's really that simple, Nami, NFL teams that 710 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: have star quarterbacks aren't good. Doesn't happen. I mean, if 711 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: you have a star quarterback who is a legit player, 712 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna always be good. I'm with you. I I 713 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: think some when you trade up for non star guys 714 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: or guys they don't have star attributes, I think that's 715 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: where you're get in trouble. But I'll never fault a 716 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: team for going on into the quarterback because the quarterback 717 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: is more important than being deep other places. Because if 718 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: you're deep other places, your quarterback's average. Like the Minnesota Vikings, 719 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick your ass in the playoffs. I just 720 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: am now. Just because you have a stud quarterback like 721 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson doesn't mean you're gonna win the playoffs. Chiefs 722 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: beat him. You know, look at the Titans. They had 723 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: a good team, they got they got beat. Star quarterbacks 724 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: tend to win more big games than non star quarterbacks. 725 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: So it's really that simple that when you do hit 726 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: on the guy. That's why does everyone go star chasing 727 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: in basketball, Because if I get Steph Currier, I get 728 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: your honest or I get James Harden. I'm always gonna 729 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: be good, you know. And I think star quarterbacks are 730 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: a lot like starr NBA players. They change your franchise 731 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: now when you miss because they cost so much to 732 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: attain right, whether you trade up to get him, whether 733 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: you sign him as a free agent, it could be 734 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: pretty devastating. Let's talk Gators. Next year, they played LSU 735 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: as good as anybody minus Baman and Clemson, and I've 736 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: been on the rise since Mullen got there. I don't 737 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: think there are many players, there are many people's radar, 738 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: but Trash coming in mid season last year was such 739 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: a big improvement after Franks went down. He looks good. 740 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: If he improves half as much as Burrow did in 741 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: eighteen and nineteen, I really think they got a shot 742 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: at the SEC check out pits to dude balls. First 743 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: round talent for sure. So thoughts on the Gators. Full disclosure, 744 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm a home or Gainesville resident, but actually sing our 745 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: offense improved with Trash last year was such a treat 746 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: after years of scraping by wins in the East with 747 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: the shittiest offense you've ever seen your we objectively look 748 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: better or pretty good. Last year with Trask really hoping 749 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: we play. UH want to see the what the young 750 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: man can do. I don't know if you guys, if 751 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: you haven't during quarantine. Uh last year hard Docks did 752 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: four college programs. They did Florida with Mullen, they did 753 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: Penn State with James Franklin, they did uh Mike Leach 754 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: in Texas Tech, and they did one other school that 755 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: I can't remember now, but I watched the Florida and 756 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: my takeaway was Mom's a really good coach. And I 757 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: was watching some of the Alex Smith he's sixty and 758 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: they were doing things. When Urban Meyer showed up at Utah, 759 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: he didn't think Alex Smith was that good. Changed his 760 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: career around. He became an All American and went number 761 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: one overall. Whose offensive coordinator Mullin, who went with him 762 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: to Florida the first time, Mullen who went at Mississippi State. Mullen. 763 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: I think Mullin's big time. I think Mullen xes and 764 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: oswy Eyes is better than Kirby Smart. Now. I think 765 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart is a big time recruiter and I think 766 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: he's a good raw ra leader type. You know, he's 767 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: like a poor man saving. But even Savings and the 768 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: lad X and those guys, that's I'm not even putting 769 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: the same breath of saving. But I think Mullin has 770 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: a chance. Like Eddie, Oh, he's a leader. I think 771 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: Eddio is a better version of what Kirby Smart is. 772 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: I think Jimbo Fisher, you know, is a good XS 773 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: and O scheme guy, just like uh Gus smells on. 774 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: I think Mullen could be that. And you're gonna get 775 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: elite talent at Florida. I can't pretend to know their 776 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: roster inside it out, but I'm with you when I've 777 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: watched them last year, they really made strides. I think 778 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: the East is becoming a lot better. Obviously the West 779 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: had eleven first rounders this year. Well, the East Tennessee's 780 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: on the come. I've been getting just seen on Twitter. 781 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: They're landing all these five star recruits. But Jeremy Fruit 782 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: is not bad. Georgia is just stacked. Kentucky not bad 783 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: at all. They produced a bunch of NFL guys, and 784 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: Florida's is good. There's a chance though Stoops is good. Now, 785 00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 1: I'd rather have Mullen than Stups, But I think Stud 786 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: is really good. I mean, he wanted eleven games of 787 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: Kentucky couple years ago. That's an incredible accomplishment. Kirby solid, 788 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: but he took over. You know, it has a little 789 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: bit of a feel, a little different like when Chip 790 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: took over for Mike Ballotti at Oregon. You know, Kirby 791 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: did not take over Vanderbilt, right, Kirby did not take 792 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: over Oregon State. He took over Georgia. They had been 793 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: in the SEC championship game five years ago before he 794 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: took over. Now he's done a really good job. They've 795 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: been in consistent top ten. He's recruiting like a mofo. 796 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: But I'd rather have If you told me who did 797 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: you want for the next five years, I'd probably lean Mullen. 798 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 1: So you got the right coach, and if you got 799 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: the right coach in football, you got a chance to 800 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: win big. Since every team has settled at quarterback apparently, 801 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 1: and most have very little cap space with the Cowboys 802 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: possibly negotiate a better deal with Dac if they just 803 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 1: rescinded his franchise tag and have him negotiate in the market. 804 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: It's funny I tweeted this out last week. I said, 805 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: why wouldn't the cow Boys resend the franchise tag and 806 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 1: just go Dak, here's your offer? Five years, a hundred million, 807 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 1: five million dollars a year. Who is paying Dak Prescott money? 808 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: And I got a bunch of people, the Colts, the Raiders. 809 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: Have you googled how much salary cap space these people have? 810 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: The culture paying Philip Rivers twenty five million dollars. That 811 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: is not happening. The Jaguars are not signing Dak Prescott, 812 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: Jon Gruden that they've already spent all their money. Where 813 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: where would Dak Prescott get thirty million dollars a year? Now? 814 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: It's kind of a dick move, right, Uh, you don't 815 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: treat your quarterbacks like that, but you could argue already 816 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: when you're playing him along like this on the franchise tag, 817 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of shows you what you think of him. I 818 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: I would think about doing that, to be honestly, I 819 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: don't think that's crazy at all. Now. I don't think 820 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is going to do that, but I wouldn't 821 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: be critical of him if he did. I've been listening 822 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: to podcast to love your analysis. Do you think the 823 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: Ravens can win fourteen game games again, given that they 824 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:06,479 Speaker 1: have the easiest schedule in the league. Uh, I would 825 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: lean no. I mean most times, when you look at 826 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots run most you win twelve, you go twelve 827 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 1: and four, you have a really good team. Most teams 828 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: don't go back to back fourteen wins, especially when they're 829 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: predicated on running the football. Now, people have been asking 830 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: me this, like, how much time do you spend it 831 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 1: off in the off season preparing for your opponents? Well, 832 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: most teams definitely prepare either for early opponents or their division. 833 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: I would imagine Cleveland, I would imagine Pittsburgh, and I 834 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 1: would imagine the Bengals. Maybe not the Bengals, but definitely 835 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland and Pittsburgh would be running looks in practice against 836 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens offense, so they couldn't just run the option 837 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: right through your you know, until the cows come home 838 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 1: and run for three yards on your ass. Now, because 839 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: there's no offseason, all the coaches have probably put together 840 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: the tape and the scouting reports, but you're not able 841 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: to rep it on the practice field. And then once 842 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: training camp hits, you have so much else to accomplish. 843 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,479 Speaker 1: I don't know how much time you have, so maybe 844 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: they'll be better just as good early, but maybe it 845 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: comes slows down a little bit as the season goes on. 846 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 1: I would imagine, though, they're not going to be fourteen 847 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: and two again. Even though the Chiefs managed to keep 848 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: twenty of twenty two starters at the Super Bowl, they 849 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: don't have a perfect roster. Last year, I felt like 850 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: they were exceptional. I feel like our exceptional safety play 851 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: between Honey Badger and Thornhill covered up below average cornerbacks 852 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: as the linebackers. What do you think the Chief's biggest 853 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: hole in their roster is and who could fix it? Well, 854 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: it definitely was linebacker speed, and they drafted the guy 855 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the second round, Willie Gate Jr. 856 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: Who should immediately help that. And I think their corner 857 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: play should be better this year in the scheme after 858 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 1: the schedule being released, what is your record prediction for 859 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I feel like they have a team with 860 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: a great existing chemistry, will be a huge advantage in 861 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: our first part of the season facing some of our 862 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: more difficult opponents, which are early. Yeah, I mean I 863 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: think the chief win twelve or thirteen games. I mean 864 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be the cream of the 865 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: crop in the f C, and they're the clear team 866 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: to beat, and I would I like them more than 867 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: Baltimore regardless of what happens Week three? Do you think 868 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of Tampa are getting a little 869 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: too much hype? Tom Brady has not proven that he 870 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: still has the top end you're left in him, and 871 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: the team has established losing culture for the last decades. 872 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: Thanks uh. I look at them differently just because they 873 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: have an elite coach and Bruce Arians. The moment he 874 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: showed up in the joke franchise of the Arizona's Cardinals, 875 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: he started winning. He started kicking everyone's ass. First year 876 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: when Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh had two teams that 877 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 1: went to the NFC Championship, his team went ten and six. 878 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: He just belongs when he shows up, he belongs. His 879 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: quarterback through thirty interceptions, thirty interceptions and he wons seven games. 880 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: Think of what an accomplishment that was. If if they 881 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: could have just cut that at twenty five, they might 882 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: have been nine and seven. So I think it's coaching 883 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: staffs elite. I think Bruce Arians is elite. I think 884 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: if Tom is just if Pete tom Brady is a 885 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: percent like the great, the goat, the you know, the 886 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: guy that led to come back against Atlanta, the guy 887 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,240 Speaker 1: that uh, you know through five plus yards against the Eagles. 888 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: If that's a hundred, if he can just give Tampa 889 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: seventy or eighty or Tampa, if he can give Tampa 890 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: eight of that, they'll be good enough. Because last year 891 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: Jim Jamis was fifty of the percent of that, like 892 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: Jamis was a train wreck. I made this account just 893 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: to ask you a question. Which offense do you prefer 894 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning with average receivers or Mr Whisky with Jerry Rice, 895 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: Randy Moss, Westwoker. If you want someone on the slot, 896 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, all in their primes. Basically, how much do 897 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: you think the receiver elevates a quarterback? So would I'd 898 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: rather have Peyton Manning with average wide receivers. And when 899 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: you think about it, he's never really had average wide receivers, 900 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: Like think of all the guys that he had in Indie, 901 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: from Marvin to Reggie to Austin Colley to Dallas Clark 902 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: Edgar and James Die like he and then when he 903 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: goes to Denver. They have Damarius Thomas, they got Julius Thomas, 904 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: they signed West Welker, they got Emmanuel Sanders. He's always 905 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: played with really, really good players. Now would I take 906 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: my chance with Mitt Robiskie, with Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Welker, 907 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. Yes, I would probably do that, And if 908 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 1: Mitch was just terrible, I would go to my backup. 909 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: I think it would be hard to suck with those guys. 910 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean I would probably do that. Now, maybe I'm wrong. 911 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: Maybe if I thought about that longer. That's type content. 912 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm here for great question, big Cowboys fan, looking for 913 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 1: a Cowboys season prediction, and specifically a CD prediction. Are 914 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: we looking at the next desk? Thanks? Uh? I would 915 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: say ten and six, and I would say c D 916 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: catches sixty balls. It's hard for a rookie to have 917 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: put up huge numbers, especially in an offense that's gonna 918 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: give the ball to Zeke a lot, that's also gonna 919 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: throw it to a Mario and Gallop a lot. So 920 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: they're they do have a lot of offensive players, right, 921 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: A Marius. Since it's been a Dallas averaged you know, 922 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: a year and a half, you know, if you if 923 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: you put it out and really his entire career average 924 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: around seventy five catches a year, and think about Maris underachieved. 925 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: Zeke gets a ton of touches. So if CD gets 926 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: twenty targets now, it's probably too many. Hundred targets sixty 927 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: catches ratio seems a little crazy, maybe less. I think 928 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: it'll be hard to look up and see Ceedee Lamb 929 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: have eight ninety catches. I just usually doesn't happen for 930 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: a rookie. Last year the number and we had a 931 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: good rookie receiving class A J. Brown, DK Metcalf, Deebo Samuel. 932 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: I think that the leading rookie receiver got fifty eight balls. 933 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: So I look at the Cowboys and Eagless playoff teams 934 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: just like this year. Uh they both got injured and 935 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys lost a bunch of games, but they both 936 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: those two teams should have been playoff teams. Uh. So 937 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 1: I got I go ten and six big swing games. 938 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: Though the NFC East plays the NFC West, it'll act 939 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 1: will be harder for Philly and Dallas because you don't 940 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: just play the Niners in Seattle, you also play the Rams, 941 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 1: who I mean, the Rams don't suck. And Kyler Murray, 942 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: who's just kind of little. I mean, he's a scary 943 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: little guy to play. As a two thousand and seventeen 944 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: Texas Tech grad, I was lucky to get to watch 945 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,720 Speaker 1: Mahomes live his entire collegiate career. I remember being floored 946 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: that the Bears passed on Watson and Mahomes for an 947 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 1: unproven one year starter. Do you think the Bears got 948 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: cute trying to outsmart the league and screwed themselves, or 949 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 1: do you think your bisky pick was truly just a 950 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: bad evaluation by the franchise. Well, at least you're admitting 951 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: your little biased I think that taking your Bisky over 952 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: Mahomes was not crazy at all. I actually think it 953 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: was the right move at the time. In theory, taking 954 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: him over Watson's a little nuts because you basically are 955 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: taking We've got two quarterbacks coming out of the A SEC. 956 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: One guy has been a multiple year starter, been a 957 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: multiple national championships, and just beat Alabama on a walk 958 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: off touchdown and through a combined like yards in two 959 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: games against Alabama and national championship games. The other guy 960 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: was a one year starter. So that that one's hard. Now, 961 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: Watson is a much better player than I thought he 962 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: would be. You know, he doesn't have a great arm, 963 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: but he's just he's got it. He just he just 964 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,760 Speaker 1: has it, you know. Sometimes he just like Russell Wilson, 965 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: throws an elite dee ball. He has a powerful, powerful arm. 966 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: Now he has it qualities, but he actually his physical 967 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 1: tools are He's very athletic. He can just throw ropes. 968 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: DeSean doesn't have a great arm. He just he just 969 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: got it. I don't really, you know, And that's I 970 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: I can't totally hate. I mean, I understand it, you know. 971 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean I would have taken Watson over Trabisky, but 972 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: I also like kind of like Trabisky coming out. It 973 00:50:52,920 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: looks terrible. There's no way around it looks terrible. What 974 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: do you think the NFL moving to Christmas Day? Was 975 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: there some sort of gentleman men's agreement between the NBA 976 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 1: and NFL that has been ignored? Personally, I love it 977 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: and will become three games somewhere Thanksgiving within five years. Yeah, 978 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: there's no gentleman's agreement. I I don't think the NFL 979 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,399 Speaker 1: cares at all about the NBA. Uh, they would take 980 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: the every ounce of the NBA's revenue if they could. 981 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: It's just a dog eat dog world. And I think 982 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: the Roger Goodell in the league season opening, they see 983 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: they see a wounded animal and they're they're a lion 984 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 1: on the prairie and they're going to eat And if 985 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: that animal can either find safety and somehow figure it out, 986 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: but if they don't, the line is gonna eat them. 987 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: And that line is the NFL. And that little gazelle 988 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: the NBA is not a little gazelle. It's a big gazelle. 989 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: But it's limping right now and that line is coming 990 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 1: after it. So we better find some safety faster. It's 991 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 1: gonna get eaten. With the last dance on part of 992 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: me wants to believe that mj is the goat of 993 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: all goats. Before this doc, it's always been Tom Brady 994 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: in my eyes, I just wanted your opinion. Love the show. 995 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 1: I would say the biggest difference between Tom Brady and 996 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 1: Michael is Tom was an underdock right he was pick. 997 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: He was not a starter in college. Michael Jordan's hit 998 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 1: the game winning shot the National Championship as a freshman 999 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: at North Carolina, but like once they've got to the league, 1000 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: they are just relentless in their pursuit of greatness. And 1001 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,720 Speaker 1: I think Tom could kind of be an asshole to guys, 1002 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 1: just like Mike. But I also you noticed, like most 1003 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: of the teammates love playing with Mike, most guys love 1004 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: playing with Tom even though he's on them hard. Now 1005 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 1: there's an element in football with Belichick plays a role 1006 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: to stay on your where It's a little different basketball. 1007 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 1: Like Michael was kind of the hard ass, Phil was 1008 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: kind of balanced it. Uh. I would give the slight 1009 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 1: edge to Michael, but I think Tom is a close second. 1010 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: I I would go in my lifetime Tiger. I would 1011 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: go Michael one Tiger to Tom three as just outlier 1012 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: badass killers. I mean, just there too on a different 1013 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: level to dominate. And I would this doc has been 1014 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: great to Michael and the REP and solidified everything we 1015 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: think of it. I think Tom Brady, We've seen Tom. 1016 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: The guy is a nut. He eats avocado ice cream 1017 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: to try to stay skinny to play football. And I 1018 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: don't know, Michael smokes cigars and drinks alcohols. Do you know. 1019 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 1: Michael wasn't in the health kick, but he was into 1020 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,879 Speaker 1: working out, So maybe you'd argue Tiger or I mean 1021 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: Tiger too, but Tom dedicated more of his life to 1022 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: basket or to football than Tiger than Uh, Michael did 1023 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: the basketball I got Tiger on. That's why I keep 1024 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,959 Speaker 1: saying him on Golf Channel. It's like replaying some old 1025 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: PGA Tour championship that he won in like, but all 1026 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: those guys just Tom's probably the most extreme, even more 1027 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 1: than Tiger. You would say Michael's the least extreme. Now, 1028 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,720 Speaker 1: he worked out hard, but he wasn't like changing his diet. 1029 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: I mean Tom eats. Tom basically eats like air, Like 1030 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: what is how does Tom function? But he does I 1031 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: mean a pliability. I was called ice cream, no tomatoes, 1032 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: Uh water, It's crazy, but it works. I mean Tom 1033 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,919 Speaker 1: probably the most extreme with all that stuff, and he's 1034 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 1: playing the latest I mean golf you can play forever. 1035 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: My Michael was done playing at the retired at thirty four, 1036 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 1: and he came back for the Wizards, but it wasn't 1037 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: the same. He couldn't have kept winning championships at that age. 1038 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: Pretty remarkable with Tom's done. Uh, they're all just in 1039 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: the on the pantheon of legendary goats. Appreciate everyone listening 1040 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 1: and UH, have a great week and I will talk 1041 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: to you. I'll talk to you Friday. Peace audios, got 1042 00:54:41,040 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: speed and