1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's me Russell Peters and you're listening to 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: my podcast, culturally canceled for those of you that don't know, 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: I love comedy, but I also love boxing, and my 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: guests this week really bring out the best of both worlds. 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: So Cedric the Entertainers on this one. He's one of 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: the original Kings of comedy. He's an acclaimed actor, comedian, writer, 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: and game show host. He enjoys stylish hat, has that 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: favorite uncle energy, you know. And he did say, by 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: the way, he's got a hat line, and uh, he 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: did promise me a hat and I still haven't received it. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: So said the funk is Up, also known from Steve 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Harvey Show, Barbershop, The Last O G and his current 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: hit on CBS The Neighborhood. So my man, Cedric the 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Entertainment will be with us, and then we have showtime. 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: Sean Porter seven pound welterweight champion two times with a 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: two time champion. He's been a champion of Yeah, he's 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: a two time champion and he's about to be a 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: three time champion because he's that Curt. He had a 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy six wins as an amateur two 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy six wins an amateur. I don't know 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: how many losses he had, but the fact you have 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: two d seventy six wins is already a ridiculous amount 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: of fights to have had as a young kid. Sean 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 1: is famously trained by his father, Kenny, who also sits 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: in this episode with us, and Kenny is uh, he's 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: the He's the devil on Sean's shoulder. He says the 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: ship that Shawn will not say. And Kenny is a 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: real dude, and I love I love both of himselves 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: very much. We also have a drop in cameo appearance. 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: But my good friend and comedy brother Ruben Paul, who 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: always finds his way to make a conversation. Bet he's 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: he's just good like that, you know what I mean. 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: I called him and I said, yeah, I'm doing my 34 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: podcast today, and Reuben shout up a little late because 35 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: he's Haitian, that's what happens, and um, but but he 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: added to it and it was a great episode. But listen, now, 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: chill out. Grab a cigar or whatever you want to grab, 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: just don't grab somebody that doesn't want to be grabbed, 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: because that's the problem. Nowadays, that's the problem. All was 40 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: actually this problem any days. Anyway, enjoy the show. I 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: just saw somebody post a sketch like a like a 42 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: TikTok video, and it was it was basically it was 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: your joke. But they have now now the kids think 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: they're discovering ship, right, so so they're taking what we 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: said then acting it out and acting like they just 46 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: came up with this ship. And it was a video 47 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: of a black guy just hanging out the stairwell and 48 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: then some other black kid runs past, and the other 49 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: black guy starts ring and just like how black Well, 50 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: I love how black people just we know how to 51 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: run when we see somebody run. And then I was like, 52 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: that SAIDs fucking joke, what do you mean? But they 53 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: don't say, like it's not it's not a voice over 54 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: of view, just like somebody acting it out, and you're like, man, 55 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: this is some bullshit. They did that same one. What 56 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: they did they have my voice under it like at 57 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: one point in time. But then you're right, but then 58 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: like people act like it's their own joke, like now 59 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, and they'll get more famous off 60 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: of your ship, even if they do it with your voice. 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: They'll get more famous than you were from it. That's 62 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: the thing. Like you couldn't even trade mark jokes in 63 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: a way like you know, you see people like even 64 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: getting away with like like like when Paris, He'll like 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: was just straight like that? Or you think about all 66 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: the stuff you said, yeah that ended up being cash frez, 67 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: Like I I was thinking about that the other day. 68 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: Even throw kings of comedy like grown ass Man Dog, 69 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: grown ass Man is because of you. You'd be like, 70 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: but you don't get no like writer's credit for that, 71 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: you know. But I never said grown ass man until 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: I saw you say it, right, and and then it 73 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: became a thing to the point where it's it's it's 74 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: cool that you can pinpoint where it started from, but 75 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that started like that. We 76 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: don't like you, Lye, you're just lying. It's a girl. 77 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm a grown ass man. Hell I got to lie 78 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: about right, your ass out of here, right, it's my house, 79 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: my grown ass man, and all the base being there 80 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: and ship you know, you know, all the base being 81 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: that Sean was doing some one time. I ain't like, man, 82 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm a grown ass man. What's wrong with you? Shawn? 83 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: That's wild man. You raised the champ, you got other 84 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: you got other kids. Like it's like I had two 85 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: boys in the girl um and and mother son was 86 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: a national champion on amateur side, you know, numerous times, 87 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: but he didn't move on to the pros. And my 88 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: daughter had one fight, she won that little thing we 89 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: did with MTV and then she retired, she retired to 90 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: undefeate it. So you think that isn't that we were 91 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: just talking about this the other day. Is that a 92 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: natural thing for the kids to do, Like, so you 93 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: were in you were in the fight game, and so 94 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: your kids, you know, they spend time with you. Is 95 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: that usually you think that's just the natural thing that 96 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: kids gonna be assimilate to what their kids their parents 97 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: do in the real way. That made me think about 98 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: without getting all that to the ship, but when when 99 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: you're in a separate relationship, right and you gotta raise 100 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: your kids, and my mom got one thing and then 101 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: the dad trying to do this, those things become even 102 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: more important. Yeah, I think the kid leans towards whichever 103 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: parent is more successful. You think, so, like, look at 104 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: your son, he's doing stand up now, Yeah, but he tried. 105 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: God is God blessing him. He needs enough, that's what 106 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: That's what I see up well, as also reason the 107 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: wrong time right now because it's really hard to work 108 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: right he can just go up on stage. I gotta 109 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: give him a little help of a little pass on 110 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: that one. It is the wrong time right now. Could 111 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: we introduce these wonderful Yeah, what I was gonna do 112 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: is say, if you're just listening now, if you are 113 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: just listening to us right now, this is Russell Peters 114 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: on my podcast Culturally Canceled, with my guests, uh, the illustrious, 115 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: my my, my dear friend, my cigar buddy, my comedian, 116 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: uh colleague Mr Cedric, the entertainers here with us today. 117 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: We have a former w b C and IBF world 118 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: champion number one contended right across the board, Sean Showtime 119 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Porter is here with us today. And and the man 120 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: who makes it all happen for Sean Porter, the man 121 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: who Sean used to swim in his balls when he 122 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: was before before infancy. That's right, Kenny, Kenny Ko Porter 123 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: is here. You did that. I ain't got to pay 124 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: for that. I would use that anytime. And I had 125 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: a boy. Yeah, thank you for having us for us. Hey, 126 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: thanks for coming. I appreciate that. Now we can continue 127 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: where we were. That's how he got here. Yeah said 128 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: that go off your head, you know I said that. 129 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: You know you knocked him out. You're not thanks for coming. 130 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: He hit you with your own joke. He did, and 131 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: I missed it. From the moment i've met you, it's 132 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: been nothing but like dirty joke. Got the dirty joke. 133 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: You know. It's funny because you're such a like, you're 134 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: such a sweet guy. Don't call me sweet. You don't 135 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: call another dude sweet. You know, like, I'm really nice 136 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: human being, you know what I mean. You're a good person. 137 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: Now you say all that don't come up. But but 138 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: but I forget because it's so nice. And then me 139 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: and said, we're comics. We're fucking idiots, you know what 140 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: I mean. So we don't think about when we speak. 141 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: We just say ship. And then you're very careful and 142 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: selective with you pick up on all of it. But 143 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: you're not a cuss guy. I don't even think your 144 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: dad cuts that much to you that much of the fight. Yeah, well, 145 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: you know I'm not trying to fight. It's no good 146 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: at it. You know. Thing one thing too Sean. I 147 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: was surprised that I like to Like immediately was the 148 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: fact that you you know you you you're definitely, you know, 149 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: one of the top tier fighters out there. But then 150 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: your broadcast, the fact that you were so ambitious about it, 151 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Like I thought that you jumped into it and had 152 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: a great time with it, you know, a good laugh, 153 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: good attitude with it. And I was like, oh, dude, 154 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: gonna be all right. I remembered just seeing that, and 155 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: I was, you know, I just thought that choice was 156 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: interesting because most people kind of do it like later 157 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: in their career, right, they kind of like, alright, I'm 158 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: winding down, let me see what I'm gonna do post career. 159 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: And I just thought that it was an interesting move. 160 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: What was that about for me? I'm keeping real, Like 161 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: the very first time I went on the set and 162 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: we were about to go up, I'm in I'm in 163 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: my my dressing room, and I looked at myself in 164 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: the mirror. I said, look, whatever you do in this 165 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: first episode is what everybody's gonna remember, and it's what 166 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna expect moving forward. I said, just go out there, 167 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: have fund be yourself, and everything will work out. And 168 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: and It's like I tell people, I feel like I 169 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: could have came out here with a clown suit on 170 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: and it would have been acceptable because of who I 171 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: am and what people have seen me, do they you 172 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: can almost expect me to do anything at this point. Well, 173 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: that being said, you did wear something really funked up 174 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: on the last broadcast. What was can you put that 175 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: picture ready? You had uh? On the pay per view 176 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: it was like two ties or some your head on. No, 177 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: never that you hand on something. I was like, I had, No, 178 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: I hadn't. I thought I was. I thought I was fly. 179 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: I can't speak for the West of the world, but 180 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: I thought I was fly. I had I had a 181 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: tuxedottle style black blaze around and I had on red 182 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: red pants right, and then I had and then I 183 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: had uh black pattern leather UH boot uh dress shoes 184 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: were red Swede in the middle. Mean, so I went 185 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: all the way. I think it might have been the 186 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: shirt or something to that. Yeah. The shirt was, it 187 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: was plaid, it was read, it was Yeah. If anything, 188 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: I do regret the red and white flash made that 189 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: one choice. Yeah, but it was like yo, But again, 190 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, we all made them fast choices alone. The 191 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: way o man I got I had on the cross 192 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: color Jordan my first oh yeah, now you did the 193 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: wrong thing that day, and then the cross colored baseball 194 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: cap with the suit like you're definitely you definitely can 195 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: run and go back in the day and be like 196 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: with damn, I made some I made some major funk 197 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: ups with that too. I mean I can't. I'm You're 198 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: not You're not alone in this one. You probably do it. 199 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: Do you do you dance when you get dressed? Like 200 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: do you get dressed with music and find yourself in 201 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: the mirror and you're doing a dance like feeling yourself? No, 202 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: I tend to stop and freezing, give myself like the 203 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: blue steel look like, well, my whole thing when I 204 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: get dressed, my thing is gotta have music on. You know, 205 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: it don't matter what it is. Is you normally some 206 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: up B, R and B. And by the time I'm finished, 207 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm in the mirror dancing because I'm feeling myself. That 208 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: day I didn't dance. That's when I knew something wrong. 209 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: You would have seen those tracks, morangue. Yeah, I sent 210 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: through the text. He sent me a picture of the shoes. 211 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, really, you're gonna wear them shoes like I mean, 212 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: he even in the text you could feel it. I 213 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: know you can feel it coming, like really, you're gonna 214 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: wear them shoes right there, you're gonna I wouldn't, but 215 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: that's you're gonna do that. I didn't. I did it. 216 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: You know, of course, you know those things, those things 217 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: to end up becoming like part of who you are, 218 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: part of who you are, be like yo, like obvious, 219 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: see how wild you're gonna come with it. But that's 220 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: the one thing you don't want to end up finding 221 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: yourself making a caricature of yourself too, like when you 222 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: find yourself stuck like I gotta be out here while right, 223 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: I figured butch Lewis must have did that the day 224 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: he wore the shirt with suit with no shirt and 225 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: then yeah, and then he just ended up like, all right, 226 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: that's got to be my thing, right and I'm stuck 227 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: on this. You know out here, I ain't got you 228 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: play butch Lewis in the movie, you know that, like 229 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: a tuxedo with no with no shirt off the show. 230 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: I did that back in the days, you know, the 231 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: pay rent. I had what I had to do. Man, 232 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: ain't nobody's judged that same outfit. Hey, man, I get it. 233 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. Kenny, I get what you're saying. 234 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: I had that same outfit. Yeah, the reason you've got 235 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: four kids, I get it. Three three okay, right, nobody 236 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: talking about the four child three. Yeah, yeah, that's all good. 237 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: And let's go back to the joke that he tells 238 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: about how when when one black person see somebody running, 239 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: they run with him story we are, we are. It's true. Yeah, 240 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: you've experienced it before. Yeah, it was the truth of 241 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: the joke because it was one of those things you know, 242 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: like and I said, like in that joke when I say, look, 243 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: you don't even know why they running. It just happened. 244 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: That's what exactly what happened. Listening, dude took off running, 245 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: and I just you're not listening for the gunshot. You 246 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: just don't want to find out where my dad. Now, 247 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: we we haven't always lived in life that we live now. 248 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: There's no secret to that. But at one point in 249 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: time we were actually living in somebody's at it, not 250 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: living back. But that's where he wrote your first diary, 251 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: No negative never and Frank, but listen, but listen. So 252 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: and my dad is He's been known for just just wilding, 253 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: like in his sleep, so I don't know about this 254 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: at this point in time. I'm like, I think at 255 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: this point in time, i'm eighteen, because it is before 256 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: the Olympic Games, before our turn pro all that um. 257 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: At this point in time, I sleep on the couch, 258 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: which is across from the bed that he sleeps on. 259 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: It's a stormy night. I'm laying down and I'm facing him, 260 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: and he's laying basically where you're at, but a little 261 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: bit further away from me. And I see him sit 262 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: up like this. I'm looking at him. I know you're 263 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: tripping at this point. I know you're tripping. Then I 264 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: see him sit all the way up like this. Now 265 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: I go from laying down to being like, all right, 266 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: what are you doing? So I sit up, but I'm 267 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: still like I'm laid down, Mom, I'm sitting up a 268 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: little bit, but you're ready for the show of this, right, 269 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: Like what's really going on? Right? Then I see his 270 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: legs move they come back like this. I'm laying down. 271 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: I've seen this my whole life. I get I take 272 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: off running. We hit the step that get down and 273 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: we both breathing hard, like we just ran like a 274 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: mile or something like that. I'm like, what's wrong, man, 275 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: Why you what you're doing? He said it was a ghost. 276 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: It was about to get me for real. He looked 277 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: at me, said he said, yeah, hey, look, he said, 278 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: what you're doing down here? I said, you rest already? 279 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: So come to find out. He tells me the whole story. 280 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: He said, I kept seeing every time the lightning was flash, 281 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: I've seen some black getting closer and closer. I said, 282 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: that's why you sat up? He said yeah. When I 283 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: sat up and then I hit the wall, I knew 284 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't nowhere else I could go, so I took 285 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: off running. I said, well, I saw you runs already too. 286 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: You're going back up there trying to move. We slept 287 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: downstairs until the next day. Was a vacant house or 288 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: some sh now we were staying with somebody were staying with. 289 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: And then and then the next day, the next day, 290 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: he's telling us, you know that grandfather this and that 291 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: back in the day, and you know, I was like, yeah, 292 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: it's about Tonico, the white and white grandfather exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 293 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: you know what he was thinking, you know, operty property. 294 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: It was about that time. Let's see it, man, what 295 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: do you do for work before any everything you can 296 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: think of. Let me see um, heat treatment plant, UM, 297 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: unloaded tractor trailers, clean ship that had erotic actually somebody 298 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: somebody ship on itself. It was my job at the hospital, 299 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: not just random walking down right, man, know some on 300 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: you when we get that for you, that'd be five 301 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: dollars sterilize that for you. Everything you could think of. 302 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: But uh, I got one of them jobs that had 303 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: a four one K plan, right, and uh I stayed 304 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: there by eleven years. And uh and I told my boss, 305 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: I said, man, I'm uh, I'm gonna be leaving him. 306 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need to turn this in and uh, you 307 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: know I need that money. And he said, this is 308 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: a bad idea. Can this is a bad idea, don't 309 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: do it. But that's interesting to bet on myself and uh, 310 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: bet on my kid, on your kid, on your baby. 311 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: Got that, I say? And then you know that the 312 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: idea that people use the turn of hustler, you know 313 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: that's a thing that like kids use. That's just right 314 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: that that and then and then you know ingrain that 315 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: in a kid where either the expectation is to see 316 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: that you've been in the world and you can see 317 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: other champions and then somehow, you know, the kids affiliate 318 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: that with you and say, I that this should be 319 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: automatic for me. Right, But you gotta you know, you 320 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: gotta teach that grind, teach that hustle. You got a 321 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: kid now to right you know, well will be three 322 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, so you know that's that's that's the 323 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: that's that thing that I founded. My son it's twenty now, 324 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: and you know he definitely been a privileged kid, but 325 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: he's a good dude. Like, he's a good kid. And 326 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: it's that thing right where you want to keep trying 327 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: to instill in him the idea that your ideas right now, 328 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: even the stuff that you it ain't necessarily thing that's 329 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: gonna define you. So you ain't gotta say you don't 330 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: want to do something like you know, like you like 331 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: go to college. When I go to college, I don't 332 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: want to be a doctor, like you know, just go 333 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: dog like you you don't mean you gotta be a 334 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: doctor this because you go like you know what I mean, 335 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: like and that that kind of that that kind of 336 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: you know, mentality of putting ship in your basket. I 337 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: like to call it like, you know, you gotta push 338 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: it in your basket man, so that when you when 339 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: you get you wherever you're going, you got resources, You 340 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: got a bunch of little stuff that's like, uh oh, 341 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: I can do a little bit of this. I can 342 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: add this to that. And you know, yeah where I 343 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: went to Southeast Missouri, so yeah, and my mother was 344 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: a school teacher. So that was the kind of thing. 345 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: But I always knew that I was an entertainment Like 346 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: when I was little as a kid, you know, like 347 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: most kids, you see the Fame Show, and I was like, 348 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: I can do all of that, Like I could sing, 349 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: I could dance. I was like, I used to tell 350 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 1: my mom, I could do all that stuff, mom, like 351 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, and she was just you know, she from 352 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: a little small town when we moved to St. Little 353 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: was so as an educated single parents. She raised me 354 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: and my sisters. So she she a young black woman. 355 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: She just ain't taking no chances like that, right. You know, 356 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: it's like you gotta go to school, you gotta get 357 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: a degree. This is what I know, right, And that's 358 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: the that was the way she did it. So you know, 359 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: it was that it was that aspect of life. So 360 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: I didn't really start my career too. I was an adult. 361 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: I was twenty six the first time I got on Wow. Yeah, 362 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: I worked a bunch of dumb jobs. I didn't go 363 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: to college or nothing. I couldn't. It wasn't on the 364 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: table for me I have. 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I was trying to get to the strategies 457 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: of how do you kind of like when when marketing 458 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: wind building a brand, right, and you've got all these 459 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: kind of upwards and you know, and you take chances 460 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: on any fight, right, even no matter how great you are, 461 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: you're out there against another opponent, right, and you can say, yeah, 462 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: any given night, these things can happen. But do you 463 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: make these choices like That's one thing too. I think 464 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: it's a stigma of boxing that people will try to 465 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: ultimately control that so much that the fan We're like, y'all, 466 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: come on man, like y'all, y'all, y'all ain't fighting the 467 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 1: real dude, Like you know what I'm saying, because it's like, 468 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: all right, I need to I need to get my 469 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: guy right here so I can get this money. Right? 470 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: Is that truly the strategy in most cases, like at 471 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: stand ups, we start out just really trying to be 472 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: funny and just go and then yeah, when it starts 473 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: to be a money business, then you do. You can't 474 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: just you can't put yourself on stage with it any 475 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: every with any and everybody. You gotta be like yo, 476 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: even though you might have love, you'd be like yo, 477 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: I just can't go on stage with with any and 478 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: everybody because it'll it'll mess up the brand that I'm building. 479 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: That's my lane, you know. So I mean I'm just 480 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: imagining that's the same thing while also making sure that 481 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: you're significant and and that people respect your your skill set. Right. Yeah, 482 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: that's true in a lot of ways. And you can 483 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: equated to the entertainment business that you guys are involved with. 484 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: Both businesses at the end of the day, like I 485 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: it happens to comics all the time, Like, well, I 486 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: got approach it, like, hey, why don't we put you 487 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: on a tour with the Said and George and d L. 488 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I have a completely different audience. I'm 489 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: gonna eat a fat dick on their show. I'm not 490 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna do 491 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: what I did at the trip. That reminds me was 492 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: when I did my My Chicago's But he was my partner, 493 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: right and I was like telling him, like Russ, you 494 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: one of the best, right you could do this, And 495 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: he was like said, I don't know, And I was like, 496 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: you could do this. And it was one of those 497 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: things that I feel that he had already gotten his 498 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: head that it wasn't gonna go well, and he kind 499 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: of manifested it towards the energy. Do you have to 500 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: not do that? Like I mean, I feel like boxes 501 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: always have a certain confidence, like like you know, like 502 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: people people, your Bud Crawford this thing, like I like 503 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: he the guy. Now I saw vulnerabilities the last fight, 504 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: so then I would say, like a boxer was looking 505 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: at that and going like, even when I thought he 506 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: was like you know, maybe if you're coming up and 507 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, that's the top, dude, I may give 508 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: miss props. Even Earl Spence Junior last fight, I was like, Okay, 509 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: I see some flaws. The problem with Sean is when 510 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: you look at him as a fighter, he's not the 511 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: guy that's gonna give you au easy night for a period. 512 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: That's what he reminds me of like My Donna to 513 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: a certain degree, where he just throws punches from places 514 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: you didn't think they were gonna come from, which I 515 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: think would be an incredible fighters if you found My Donna, 516 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: because you know he's in camp and he's making trying 517 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: to get down to Wait now, I'm just saying that, man, 518 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: I think that that ship itself. Man, that fight, to 519 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: me would be the scrap of the century because you've 520 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: got two guys with no quit in them. A lot 521 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: of people wanted to see that at one point. I 522 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: want to see that at this point that exactly. That's 523 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: exactly what happened in Firel Spence Jr. Before that he 524 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: was invincible, he was he was like you know, he 525 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 1: was a superman. And then after I laid hands on him. 526 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: It was like everybody got this newfound confidence that they 527 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: could use some things to him. You know. Well, like, 528 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm a huge fan of yours and 529 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: a huge boxing fan just in general. But when I 530 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: think about you, like you're the fighter, a lot of 531 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: fighters don't want to fight because number one, even if 532 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: they're fortunate enough to even to be able to beat you, 533 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: they're never gonna look good against you. Like no one 534 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: if any loss you've had, nobody looks good against you. 535 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: Nobody beat you. Nobody's beating you. They may have got 536 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: a w but that didn't mean they they didn't earn 537 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: respect from that fight. They all got showed like yo, 538 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: you got fucking holes a rematch, you know what I mean? 539 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: So my question for you, like he's like, now that's 540 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: my point. So how hard even at your level, having't 541 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: been a world champion, you you fight every You're willing 542 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: to fight everybody. How hard is it? It's unfortunate that 543 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: I imagine it's still hard for you to get fights. 544 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: That's the fight. Interesting part is like now everybody's trying 545 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: to figure out how can I go over sean porter 546 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: and fight somebody else. That's that's where everything is at 547 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. The only ducking and diving the doing 548 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: is around you, yea, so well in building the business 549 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: like you know, like you said, we're talking about the 550 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: younger fighters, they're not in the same category. And this 551 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: kind of came up with the Condo McGregor thing. And 552 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a totally different but the 553 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: fact that he didn't have the amount of fights, right, 554 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: he didn't get the chance to sharpen the knife, work 555 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: to blade enough to in order to be at that 556 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: professional level when people are ducking you going over what 557 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: do you do? In that introim? What is the thing? 558 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: Did you see my last fight, which one was that 559 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: I fought for Mela. It was back in underbeated German 560 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: fighter and you defeated him, Yeah, and I and I 561 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: beat him. I beat him my hands down every single round. 562 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: I want. Nobody had heard of from Mela. He's an 563 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: undefeated fighter. The only fighter we can get in the 564 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: ring with me at this point in time where everything 565 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: going on. So we did it. Decision this It was 566 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: a twelve round decision. Yep. Right out here in l A. Yeah, 567 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: uh uh, where do we fight the microft Microsoft theater, right, 568 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: But there was no audience, right, no audience. I remember 569 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: there wasn't that the first fight that they had no 570 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: audience for first five? No, I wasn't the first one 571 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: of them. I think it was the second fight for Fox, 572 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: the second fight for Fox. I think overall, I think 573 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: it was the fifth fight overall. Yeah. But anyway, my 574 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: point is a fighter that nobody knew, fighter that we 575 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: knew watching watching video that we were gonna beat him 576 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: hands down. I still prepared for him as if I 577 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: was getting the ring with aerospence Danny Garcia. I think 578 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: that's the biggest mistake most fight Crawford. They always looked 579 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: through the guy and when you trained and prepared the 580 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: way you're supposed to. I personally don't believe believe in 581 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: ring run, but I think it's a myth. But people 582 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: talk about en Russ in this situation where Connor McGregor, 583 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: you took so long off, you probably should have been 584 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: training a little bit harder or doing some things differently, 585 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: and training that way, you had taken yourself to a 586 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: fight level. That way, when it's time to fight, you're 587 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: at that level. I think the problem with Connor is 588 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: that he's so so much of a character. He he 589 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: worked on being the character as much as he worked 590 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: on I think he worked on being the character maintaining 591 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: the character harder than he worked in the gym, and 592 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: he looked physically. The even tougher part about it is 593 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: now that energy is so far towards being the character 594 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: that even in the loss, you can't you can't get 595 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: yourself together the correct way and the loss because you 596 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: still got to be that character. You've got to have 597 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: that energy. And you can see the sparkle a lot 598 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: of fighters when they lose that sparkle in their eyes 599 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: when they're getting the ring, and like, this guy is 600 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: not who he used to be. I could see it, 601 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: Like I watched the highlights and I can see it. 602 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: As the fight started. You just see it was something 603 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: a little different with him. Yeah, he didn't do that. 604 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: He didn't do the little all the walk thing, like 605 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: none of the stuff. Yeah. Like you're like, hey, dog, 606 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: like you're not having fun with it right now. You're 607 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: thinking about like you need to win this fight and 608 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: you you you're now you're now you know, Like like 609 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: we hear young people talk about worried about their brand, 610 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: like be funny what is your brand? You know, you know, 611 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: you know what I like in it too, And I 612 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: think this is something that I think this is probably 613 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: what's gotten into Eddie Murphy's head, is that Eddie has 614 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: been away from stand up so long. When he comes 615 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: back to it, Eddie, Eddie is a smart enough guy 616 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: because he watches it and he pays attention. Eddie's very 617 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: in tune with everything that's going on in the world 618 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: and around him. It's funny as hell still, but people 619 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 1: are gonna expect Eddie to be Eddie from then but right, 620 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: so they don't give your room for growth. So if 621 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: Eddie comes out and act like how Eddie is, which 622 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: is what he should do, right, he may get caught 623 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: in the trap of trying to do an impression of 624 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: what he used to do. Well. That's usually what happens. 625 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean that, you know, that's the fear of the failure, 626 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: right like you know, which is when you're young and 627 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: you're coming up, it's less of a fear even if 628 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: you even if you have a loss right like as 629 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: a as a stand up when you're coming up, you 630 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: bomb you have a bad night, you just don't identify 631 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: yourself as that because of the other nights that you killed, right. 632 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: But the more you become famous and you have it 633 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: and you know, and then nowadays with more people having 634 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: accessibility and something is saying and people repeating it and 635 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: you turn into a meme and all these things, right, you, 636 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: these are the things that allow you that can at 637 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: this stage of success, which is you know, the thing 638 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: you gotta be careful of. Like the more your branding becomes, 639 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, you you do great at 640 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: the Olympics, right, you do great, you know, commentating and 641 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: then you come out and then you have a fight 642 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: where you don't shine everybody, like you need stuff that microphone, 643 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: right exactly, it's it's it's the same of the young comics. 644 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: When I seell these young comics who are willing to 645 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: get on stage and and do it anytime anywhere. I 646 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: remember being that guy and that ship leaves you after 647 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: a while, you go fun. I don't want to I 648 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: don't want to suck on this one. Then people start 649 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: thinking he's deteriorated. What Cedric says something interesting about protecting 650 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: your brand, And it's actually one thing that bothers me about. 651 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm not a big UFC guy. I love boxing. But 652 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: it just seems like nowadays fighters are so concerned about 653 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: being undefeated, where like I said, you'll fight anybody, but 654 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: people will dodge because they want to keep that zero. 655 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: That was a criticism of Mayweather for a long time 656 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: is he wants to keep that undefeated mark. Where in 657 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: UFC losses don't hurt fighters, you know what I mean? 658 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: And I don't think you know that. It definitely does, 659 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: it does, but it seems like they in a different 660 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: because it actually lower them. No, it lowers them way 661 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: faster than it does in't boxing. Yeah, because it depending 662 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: on how they lost, Like when Connor listen, it's it's 663 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: it's in boxing, it depending on how you lose as well, 664 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: Like yeah, you you didn't get a couple of w's, 665 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: but nobody looks at you like a loser, do you 666 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you got a lot of 667 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: these fighters they get that get gin checked, or they 668 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: get choked out or whatever, and it shows a hole 669 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: in their arsenal. So boxing you can go back, you 670 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: can fix or maybe I did this, but I didn't 671 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: do enough of that. But a lot of times for 672 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: these guys, like when Connor got choked out by Cobibe 673 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: got choked out cold, but then he's still He's still 674 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: headline in a major thing after being laid off. I know. 675 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: But that you gotta understand. Connor is a very elite situation. 676 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: He's He's what Mayweather is to boxing. He's what whatever 677 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: a big football guy is to football, you know, like 678 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Like you know, so those guys get a 679 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: pass on certain things because it's kind of like, oh, well, 680 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: maybe that was a fluke. You know why. I heard 681 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: him back to Mohammad Ali and Norton and Foreman and 682 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: all those guys. You know, they used to lose fight 683 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: and it never seemed to diminish their statu This has 684 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: been great fighters. Like You've had a couple of losses, 685 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: but I don't I still see you as a great 686 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: fight and I think it's cool. I wish more people 687 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: would just fight, just fight. Who cares? You know what 688 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean? Because anybody can win on any given nothing. Yeah, 689 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: I'm blessed, and I think that my mindset is by 690 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: any means necessary, That's that's just what I do when 691 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: I go on the ring, and I've told this to 692 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: tons of people. You see me in the ring throwing 693 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: a hundred punches around and you're thinking that, you may 694 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: even think that I'm not thinking. I'm just going out 695 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: there and punching and and that's it. But it's very 696 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: very fast, and it's very calculated. But at those points 697 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: in times when I'm throwing a whole bunch of punches 698 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: whill I'm rough up on somebody and I'm throwing them 699 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: up against ropes or anything like that, I'm smart enough 700 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: to do what I need to do. But at that 701 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: point in time I'm doing I'm doing what I feel 702 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: like I need to do to win the fight, you know. 703 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: And I think that that's a separation with myself and 704 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: a lot of guys, is they're not willing to do 705 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: everything that it takes to win a fight, do everything 706 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: that's that it takes to even get prepared for certain 707 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: fighters where I am. And I think that there are 708 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people have said because I've lost, I'm 709 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: not afraid to lose, and that's not the truth. The 710 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: truth is I did what I what I felt like 711 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: I needed to do in those fights, and even though 712 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: I didn't win, I'm still willing to go out there 713 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: against whoever it is and fight them. And I think 714 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: a lot of guys are still at this point in time, 715 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,479 Speaker 1: we're stuck on that. Um, I'm undefeated, and the only 716 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: thing that matters in the boxing game is if you 717 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: have an undefeated record, I think it's gonna go away. 718 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: You see a lot of that has a lot of 719 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: these young guys are getting in the ring lost now 720 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: Now are people are gonna go, well, he's lost it 721 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: now they go, you gotta wait to see You've seen 722 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: that a lot of people are like saying, you know, 723 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: they're right and right and listen, let's let's see what it. 724 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: I always say, let's see what their follow up fight 725 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: looks like. Yeah, do you think it's Uh, this is 726 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: a question for you. Also, do you think it's the 727 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: promoters sometimes who are dictating fighters being hesitant to fight 728 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: other people just because they're afraid to lose, because it's 729 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: a money thing. They feel they can position you better 730 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: to make a bigger payday if you have an undefeated 731 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 1: record as opposed to having two losses and three losses 732 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: or Yeah, that has a lot to do with it, 733 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 1: along with social media has a lot to do with it. Uh, 734 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: you know that's a big thing in everybody's mind. They 735 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: feel that way, you know, and I'm a point to 736 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: finger at him, and not because he's my fighter, just 737 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: because this is actually what happened. If you've got a 738 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: different opinion, that's fine, right, But boxing is all about opinions. 739 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: Unlike the other sports. This is a business. The other 740 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: sports are actually sports. This is a business. So when 741 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: we look at football, basketball, baseball, you know, you scored 742 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: a touchdown, the points go up on the board, you 743 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: shoot the three pointer, the points go up on the board, 744 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: you get the home run, you know, the points go 745 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: up on the board. Boxing is an opinion. At the 746 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: end of that round, everybody just watching it and those 747 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: judges sitting around and give their opinion. I think he 748 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: won that round, right, But because we're talking about business 749 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 1: and we're talking about money, there's an influence there, right, 750 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: So I don't have to go any further with that 751 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: part of it, but there's an influence there. So when 752 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: other people who are in position to make things happen 753 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: are part of that business and making control, they can 754 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: control that business. They control a lot of other things. 755 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: So if I told you, for example, that you know, 756 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: when I did shows back in Ohio and Cleveland, and 757 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: the shows like that I wasn't one of paid everyone 758 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: that came there, everyone from the guy that put the 759 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: ring in and the chairs, the chairs to the judges. 760 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: I was the one that did. I was the person 761 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: that right. So, no matter how how you go up 762 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: in the levels, somebody's dealing with somebody directly in a 763 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: direct way, right, So, uh, it's getting taken care of, 764 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, in some type of way. So there are 765 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: influences that go along with the opinions. Right. So now 766 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: I'll go back to the point of finger at him. 767 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: It's not one fight he had that he that that 768 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: he didn't win, and then that that wasn't disputed. You 769 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: can dispute that Keith Thurman fight when the fight is 770 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: over with the crowd is buoying the decision, remember, right, 771 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: you can dispute the kel Brooke fight. Right. We've never 772 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: been held so many times in all the professional fights 773 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: we had as we got held in the kel Brooke 774 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: fight to the point where it was like seventy holds 775 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: in the first six to eight rounds or something crazy 776 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: stupid like that. Did you ever fight but as an amateur? 777 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: And who would you fought as an amateur that you fought? 778 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: Again as a bro uh, nobody really, but he beat 779 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: everybody in the amateurs he was I was a higher 780 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: weight and anybody were like anybody you can think of. 781 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: He beat Danny Jacobs, He beat that cruiseweight champion, Alexander Usick. 782 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah he can. He beat um to meet your son Andre, 783 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: he beat uh. Yeah, he beat boo boo boo. Uh. 784 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 1: He beat uh the Olympians Sean Ostrata twice. He beat 785 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: the national Golden Glove and national US champion who was 786 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 1: returning to be champion again, Sean beating both ties each 787 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: time he tried to return edwin Ron Reriguez did you 788 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: did you meddle in and I didn't fight an Olympics 789 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 1: was the guy that the guy that they left fight 790 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: and it was a political thing business. He was six 791 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: ft tall. Sean beat him twice in both tournaments, head 792 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: to head competitions, and so they went to Beijing, and 793 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: the guy was hurt the whole time in Beijing, right, 794 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: he was hurt the whole time. He never trained, he 795 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: never practiced anything. And the week that they handed out 796 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: the uniforms, Sean sent me an email and said they 797 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: gave him his uniform and they didn't give it to me. 798 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: I wanted, I wanted to jump in on something ahead 799 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: and I like this, I mean, because you said it 800 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: a couple of times to day that the check is 801 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: the same, right, But I see Sean not react to 802 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: that in in the same way, right because as the 803 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: actual fighter that that you know when you said no 804 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: winner loss, the check is the same, right. But you 805 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: do have to you do have the degree of pride 806 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 1: right in the skill set, right even if you even 807 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: if you like totally disagree with the with the outcome 808 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: of the thing, and you go like, yo, I feel 809 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: I want to fight, blah blah blah. You gotta you 810 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: gotta have this hell on your record, right, And you're like, yeah, 811 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: the check is the same, but it's just something about 812 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: that part, right that's like don't sit well? Right, absolutely right, 813 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: Aero Spence Jr. And after the fight, we go to 814 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: the back room and my dad says, do you want 815 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: to go out to the press conference? Yeah? I want 816 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: to go out to the press conference because I want 817 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 1: to see you again. I want to see you again, 818 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You want if so, let 819 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: me see you again. You want to see if he's 820 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: gonna look at you with the same content that he's 821 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: looking at them with. And that's kind of what I 822 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: was really trying to get to that in the in 823 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 1: the in the business of it, right, And I think 824 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: that's kind of what you lead alluding to that you 825 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: still and and even Ruben's kind of saying is that 826 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: you still have you maintain the altitude because if you 827 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: lost the fight bad, then the check wouldn't stay the 828 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: same eventually, you know, if you continue to like have losses, 829 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: then become yeah, your value goes down. But the fact 830 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: that you are, you know, considered, you know, a top 831 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: level and an ultimate challenge and one that's like people, 832 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: you're right, you still maintain your height, right, no matter what. 833 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: And I think that that's you know, that's the thing 834 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: that a young fighter somebody coming into the business, I 835 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: think they have to understand that that in a game 836 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: like this, it's gonna come with some losses. But but 837 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: it's all about what you show so that you can 838 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: what you do after you look so that you and 839 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: that that's a great attitude. Do you think being a 840 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: commentator has made you a better fighter? I don't think so. 841 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Somebody, Uh, my best friend actually 842 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: he says, you know what, I think commentating has made 843 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: you a better fighter. I said, you know what, The 844 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: only thing commentating has done is allowed people to get 845 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,479 Speaker 1: into my head. Now I'm saying everything that you never 846 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: really saw from me, everything that I trained to do, 847 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: everything that I try to do in the boxing ring. 848 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: Now I'll just say it. And I think that that's 849 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: really the only thing that makes it different for me. 850 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm. I think I would be as good 851 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: as as I am now if I wasn't commentating. I 852 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 1: think that I still look at everything the same. Maybe 853 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: you don't realize you're doing that. Maybe you don't realize 854 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: how it's affecting you. Like boxing, like you've never watched 855 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: it before. That has to give you some extra advantage, 856 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: like you Well, even consider that I was studying fights 857 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: before I started studying him to commentate. I was just 858 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: studying this specific fighters. So now when I study fights 859 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: to be ready to be ready to broadcast, I'm still 860 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: studying it the way I would if I was fighting. 861 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, So, I do I think that I'm I'm 862 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: not any I don't think that commentating has made me 863 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: a better fighter, But I do think that I've gotten 864 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: better because of all the fights that I watched and 865 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: and listening to myself back and all that kind of stuff. So, 866 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I enjoyed it, but I had a question 867 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: for both of y'all. So you actually took me to 868 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: the night of the fight, and I think a lot 869 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: of fighters are like that, where we kind of live 870 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: in certain moments. And so when you said, you know, hey, 871 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: you lost the fight with Spence and I know it 872 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: didn't sit right with you, I'm like, no, Like I 873 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 1: was ready to see him again and that night, you know, 874 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: and I actually kind of like went there and my 875 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: and my feelings, like I went there to that night. 876 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: Have y'all ever had a moment where y'all like bombed 877 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: and y'all were like, I gotta get them back tomorrow 878 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: night I got to show Yeah, yeah, like you from 879 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: me as I see everything, I want to see everything 880 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: I did wrong the night before, I'm like, man, I 881 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: left this out there. I should have said this. I 882 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't have said Dad, I should have said this this way, 883 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: and then you know, I'm gonna fix that tomorrow. Yeah, 884 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: speaking from a different perspective of said and Russ, thing 885 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: is a failed comic Wow. Um, but I work more 886 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: clubs than these guys work. So the fact that you 887 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,439 Speaker 1: know you have another show and then sometimes I'm doing 888 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: two show nights or three show nights, you just shake 889 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: it off and knowing that you can figure out everything 890 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: that you did wrong during this pandemic where there's not 891 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 1: a lot of live shows. If you have a show 892 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: that's not up to par, it sitsts with you and 893 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: it bothers you like, damn, I can't go on and 894 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: get this off me. You know the next night, you 895 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean, are the next show. So you 896 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: kind of sit with it. And I could imagine when 897 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: you're doing big theaters and arenas and stuff, when you're 898 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: doing one show a night, you're like, damn, man, I 899 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: forgot that one joke. You gotta wait another week or 900 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: two weeks. Yeah, no, that's that's real. And I think 901 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: what you don't want to when you brought that up. 902 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: I always go back to that that one for me, 903 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: like and it was Bernie Mack and T Clay T K. Kirkland, 904 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: did you sell you or something? No? No, no, But 905 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things when you when you 906 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: you you kind of can look at the situation maybe 907 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: like you know, like I was talking about with Russell, 908 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: like explaining we were in Miami. Miami's you know, in 909 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: Miami proper. It's it's notoriously a hardcore crowd, like when 910 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: you in Miami. Not the South Beachy fund ship. This 911 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: is like this the open locker. This like when they 912 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: want yeah this got damnedhood ship got folk with him 913 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: with the old grills. Ship didn't come with that, ship 914 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: said got ship got they got the bullshit up there 915 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: called ship. So you gotta go, man, you know, and right, 916 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: and I and I remember, like you know, you know, 917 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: you can attribute it to a number of factors though, 918 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,280 Speaker 1: but there was a lot of things I felt went wrong, 919 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 1: went on stage, bombed, and you know, were you already? 920 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: I was somebody I was, you know, I was definitely 921 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: one of the people on the names headline and it 922 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: was Bernie. Bernie was the airliner. Said then you know 923 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: t K Marvin Dixon, you know, Miami's finance that kind 924 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 1: of thing, like so they they ate ready Burger Jones 925 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: on the show, Burger Burger ain't gonna have it right, 926 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I just remember, like 927 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, of course you know b Mac legendary, right, 928 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: he goes up and and I go right on before 929 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: him bomb and it's like bombed to the point I 930 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: gotta lead a stage bomb like like like whoa, Like 931 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: this ain't this one? I'm not doing my time? Say 932 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: you just just well you know you want to say, 933 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: I apologize to and I had I had, you know 934 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: I had if you were because I've been there before 935 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: where I had credit with them, like they knew like yo, 936 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: you better than this, right, but on this particular night, 937 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta give up the reins, right, And 938 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 1: so I'm not doing my time. So as a pro, 939 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: that's another thing, like as a professional, you like, as 940 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: a pro, I'm not even being a professional right now 941 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: because I'm in such a rut and down that I'm 942 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: not even getting ready to be a pro. Like I'm 943 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: not even there to do my thirty minutes. Like I'm 944 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes in and it's horrible, Like it's like yo, 945 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: look everybody, wow, man, look um, I don't know what's 946 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: going on. That's when you do that, that's when you 947 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: do the man crazy. That's just like that's when you 948 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: know we're in the run. Man crazy. Times and the 949 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: crowd let me off the hook, you know, but if 950 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: you leave with the shame of it, right, And I 951 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: went and I wrote, Man, I mean I woke up 952 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 1: the next morning, I took a walk and I was 953 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: writing Joe, writing joke. I was just determined. But they 954 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,399 Speaker 1: changed the show order to So that's the other thing. 955 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: Now you feel even bad because now they're like, now said, 956 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: UK follow me. I got that fire tonight, you know, yeah, 957 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: but it became it became that thing where you're definitely 958 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: gunning back up. And luckily for you know, like to 959 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: Ruben's point, it was it was a you know, it 960 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: was a three show succession. So I was able to 961 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: come back to the same audience the next night and 962 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: then killed even though I wasn't in my spot no more, right, 963 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: But it worked out. That's one of the things you 964 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: learned to like. It's like you just you just don't follow. 965 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: You don't follow blue comics if you're not a blue comic, right, 966 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: Like I'm not a I'm not a I'm not getting 967 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: ready to talk about you. You know the inside of 968 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 1: your coach, you like that, and you know I ain't 969 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: that dude, right, you know, my comedy gonna hit you 970 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 1: where it feel good and and you're laughing and you understand. Yeah, 971 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 1: and that's in it. But you know when you follow 972 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: somebody who good that they drop like te really good 973 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: at that, but he darts, Like these are things I learned, 974 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: Like I ain't following Kat Williams. It ain't done. I 975 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: don't think I'm doping him or none of that stuff. 976 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,320 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna let cat go. I'm gonna go first 977 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: because I don't do that, Like I can't get the 978 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: audience back after they've been cuss the hell out blah 979 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: blah blah. Just ago want to You just ain't gonna 980 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: be able to follow this type of artistic kind of 981 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: that's what you are in boxing. You're the guy nobody 982 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: wants to follow, do you know what I mean? That's 983 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: what that's basically it Like you fight Sean, you you 984 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,280 Speaker 1: ain't gonna look good. So it's like you follow certain 985 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: guys like I don't want to follow that motherfucker. He's 986 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 1: gonna do something. He's gonna put him in a place 987 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: I can't get to. Yeah, I watch a lot of 988 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: comedy on YouTube and I'm actually just catching this for 989 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: the first time. But it happened a long time ago. 990 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: Bill Burr, y'all seen the Rent and Philadelphia. That's that's 991 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: actually the rant that changed his career's trajectory. Yeah went up. 992 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that that was the first because watching that, 993 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: I thought it was genius. Like, like you said, most 994 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: guys wouldn't be professional. They go out and say, hey, y'all, y'all, 995 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: y'all messed it up. I'm done. But he like did 996 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,359 Speaker 1: the exact opposite and did his whole thing, and I 997 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is Jesus right here, you know, right, 998 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,399 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what. That's literally what changed Bill's career 999 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 1: that one night. And everybody was eating it that night, 1000 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,320 Speaker 1: so he knew. Like going in, he was like, listen, 1001 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: these motherfucker's there. He's from Boston too, so especially when 1002 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 1: builds a big sports guy. Bill Bill loves all his 1003 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: Boston teams and builds a very heavy sports guy, so 1004 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, he knew where to hit Philly with their 1005 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: where they're bullshit. You know. Yeah, last question on bombing, 1006 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 1: and we'll get off of that. But yeah, pointing at me, 1007 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, you just just happened, you son of 1008 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: a Kenny Porter. How does that happen. How does it happen? 1009 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: How does that happen? Is it? Is it the energy 1010 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: of the crowd? Is it the way you start? How 1011 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: does that happen? It's it's variable. I mean, for me, 1012 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: I do it to myself when I do BOM, I 1013 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: I know I've done it to myself. And then there's 1014 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 1: times where I think, in my head, you know what, 1015 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this nervous energy and flip it um. 1016 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: But if I don't get him with the one thing, 1017 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 1: it's kind of like hitting a guy with your best 1018 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: right hand and he shakes it off, You're like, well, 1019 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: God damn, I'm gonna have a long night now. Not 1020 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: only being a comic but helping comics with their sets. 1021 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: One thing that I I'm very clear and looking at 1022 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: the audience's perspective to be able to help us in 1023 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: our rusts or are any of the guys that I 1024 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: might work with. There's so many factors that can go 1025 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 1: into somebody having a good show. Are bass show and 1026 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: Cedric just name one of them. Uh, I'll tell us 1027 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: so I was on the show when Chris Rock you 1028 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: was on the show. You was on the So there's 1029 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: a famous story about when Chris Rock did Bring the 1030 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,919 Speaker 1: Pain and he did the set in Oakland. I don't 1031 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: know if you remember this that it was me, you, 1032 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 1: Mark Curry and Chris and you and you went on 1033 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 1: before Chris. Now I love said, says like family, I 1034 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: know Chris, but Chris's energy it's hard to match. Centric's energy. 1035 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't necessarily mean Centric is a better comic. They just 1036 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: have two different types of energies when they go up 1037 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 1: on stage, and said without it's different. It's like he's 1038 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: fun to watch. He's eccentric, the entertainers. Mother got music cues, 1039 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: he's backing up the car, he's doing all kinds of stuff, 1040 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 1: crowd going crazy, and Chris came out with the doing 1041 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: all that and and Chris comes out with this Emmy 1042 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: Award winning set that you know basically skyrocketed his career. 1043 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 1: But it was hard to follow after said that night. 1044 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: And that's just how it is like some nights, and 1045 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 1: in the place like Oakland too, because you know, you 1046 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 1: got you gotta read the Mark courage from Oakland, so 1047 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: pretty imagine he would have killed Yeah, he he he hosted. 1048 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: So it's about being able to read the room kind 1049 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: of just knowing what jokes, you might want to change 1050 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 1: orders sometimes of a joke depending on on the temperature 1051 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: of the audience. You know, like if you're following a 1052 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: dirty person, I don't like I'm a person who I'm 1053 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: pretty clean when I go up like like like saying 1054 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,320 Speaker 1: I said, I might use profanity, but I'm not really sexual. 1055 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: So somebody is, you know, really doing dirty material and 1056 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: I gotta go on after that, depending on sometimes how 1057 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: much time do you have to go up after somebody, 1058 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,839 Speaker 1: because sometimes if you've got a longer time to burn, 1059 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: you can ease into it. But sometimes like okay, I 1060 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: need to hit him right off the top of the head. 1061 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,319 Speaker 1: Because if you don't and that first joke don't hit now, 1062 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: you feel yourself climbing out of the hole. Then your 1063 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: confidence starts to reel and next thing you know, you're like, 1064 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 1: I'm vombing. You know that happens to where you gotta 1065 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: you got a guy who goes on the high energy 1066 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 1: and you're going on with your energy all sometimes tell 1067 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 1: the m c him, like, I do a couple of 1068 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 1: minutes with you before you bring me on, like to 1069 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: clear the energy. Basically, Yeah, and here's one thing people 1070 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,319 Speaker 1: don't understand about comedy, and Cedric and Russell know this. 1071 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: You can be a horrible comic can still kill. How 1072 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,399 Speaker 1: is that because people think that just because you kill, 1073 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 1: you're a good comic, and that's not necessarily true, not 1074 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: from an autists perspective. I get what you guys would 1075 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: think that, because wow, this guy made me laugh laugh 1076 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 1: the hardest, But you don't know if he's doing other 1077 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,879 Speaker 1: people's material. Nothing that he's probably saying it is true 1078 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: ours just he got hot that night, but doesn't necessarily 1079 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 1: mean he's good at what he does. And I think 1080 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: the comics who get the respect, that have the fame 1081 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: and have the respect, it's a level you're trying to 1082 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: get to, you know what I mean, being a technician 1083 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 1: and actually being good at what cost. So here's the 1084 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: thing us, just like you guys are all friends, colleagues, y'all. 1085 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 1: This is we all do that kind stuff. Y'all share 1086 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: material or say hey man, I just want to joke 1087 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: about this. Don't do it, you know what I mean? Like, 1088 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: do you ever do? No, We'll wait and see and 1089 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,359 Speaker 1: then they'll be like, well, all right, well that guy 1090 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: just did a joke way too similar to one of one. 1091 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: And when I was gonna do. I'll drop it that 1092 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: night because I'm like, I don't want to sucking him 1093 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: to think, oh I just did that joke and I'm like, 1094 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 1: I know, but I did my version of it and 1095 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. Well, I can tell 1096 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: you what these two and then I'll let said take 1097 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 1: over is sometimes as a comic and this is just 1098 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 1: natural for me to do it. But I'll see said 1099 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: do some of R. C. Russell doing. I go, man, 1100 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: if you say this one word right here at this spot, 1101 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: like we call it a tag, like like saying you 1102 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: know that joke you got Have you ever thought of 1103 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 1: saying this? And said, my go damn perfect. Yeah, I 1104 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 1: was looking for a little something different to do that. 1105 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: Let make fain with what Reuben is for me. First 1106 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 1: of all, Reuben is a great comic and he's one 1107 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 1: of my best friends in the entire world. But Reuben 1108 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 1: to me is like my Emmanuel Steward because I'll go 1109 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 1: out there and I'll figure out what I'm gonna say. 1110 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: I'll work on my set and then I have Reuben 1111 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: come watch me, and he'll stand there and go, you 1112 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: need to put this bit there that he'll organize the 1113 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,720 Speaker 1: set to where when I run it, it runs way 1114 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: smoother and tighter because he's got the outside eyes. It's 1115 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 1: like listening to your corner, you know, and they see 1116 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: ship you don't see. It's important for comedy that people 1117 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: don't really attribute to it. It makes me think about 1118 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: the rap game, how people go like, you don't write 1119 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: your own wraps, but blah blah blah. Now comedian has 1120 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: definitely gotta have their own brand. But you definitely if 1121 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: you are performing at a high level, a lot like 1122 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 1: having a trainer, a lot like having someone in your 1123 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: corner that's looking at it, not from the perspective that 1124 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: you're in it right, because you're up there doing it. 1125 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: Then you don't know. You keep dropping your hand, right, 1126 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: You just ain't. You ain't seeing yourself do it because somehow, 1127 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: in your mind you just faster than him. You and 1128 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't see that you keep dropping your 1129 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: damn hand. Dog, he gonna bust you, and you're like, nah, 1130 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm good, I got this right. And that's where another comic. 1131 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 1: If you, you know, if you got good friendships and 1132 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: people ain't hate which as much as it seems like 1133 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: you would hear about it, For the most part, I 1134 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: find comedy a very uh in closed fraternity is a 1135 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 1: few people that people just don't work with, but in general, 1136 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: but in general, it is a fraternity of want to 1137 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: see you rock, Like I want to see you go 1138 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: out and kids like if we if if Ruben and 1139 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: I went to go see said he was like, yeah, 1140 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna go run of my set, and we're like, 1141 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: we'll go watch we're watching. Then we'll like said, here's 1142 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 1: some ship we thought maybe you want to use, maybe 1143 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 1: maybe you want to change this to that. But we're 1144 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: not writing for him. We're just giving them suggestions on 1145 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,439 Speaker 1: other ways to look at the same situation. And here's 1146 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 1: another uh perspective that these guys might not have that 1147 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: I have is you know, these guys are comedy stars. 1148 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 1: So someone like go like, like, if you got Malik 1149 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 1: or whoever, a guy like myself, there's a Christ, you know, 1150 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:59,919 Speaker 1: there's a beast, yeah, Maliks Like, so there's a hand 1151 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: there's a handful of us guys who are good comics 1152 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: who work under bigger comics. And sometimes people go, well, 1153 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 1: how can Reuben Paul give a George or e Cedric 1154 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: or a Russell advice or perspective, because we're all comics 1155 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and good comics no 1156 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: good comics, whether you're famous or whether you're at you know, 1157 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 1: the middle level, Like huh, well you you you appreciate, 1158 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: you appreciate somebody for being exactly who they are, right 1159 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 1: and so like you, so you understand that like with comedy, 1160 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: comedy and stardom, this ship comes somehow, it comes, how 1161 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: it comes right, you can't because like it thinks it 1162 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: made me think of my my young guy j J. 1163 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: That also worked for me. Again, not a person you 1164 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: really just want to run your ass up on stage afterwards, 1165 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 1: Like will he ever be super famous? I don't know, 1166 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 1: not Like it's not saying that he can't be, but 1167 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 1: you in he's kind of like in found himself in 1168 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:11,439 Speaker 1: journeyman status. Right. There's guys, Yeah, there's cats you saw 1169 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: in the Amateurs that you're like, if dad dude ever 1170 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: went pro, he would be a fucking world chap. There 1171 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 1: was guys I knew in my gym that I was like, 1172 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 1: there was a kid that the guy that brought me 1173 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 1: into the boxing world, this guy Willie. I mean, I'm 1174 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 1: telling you, this kid was slick. He had like reflexes. 1175 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: I would think he was at the end of the jab. 1176 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I know, I'm gonna hit him, but 1177 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 1: he would move enough where you didn't see him moving. 1178 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: You're like, why the funk I can't reach this guy. 1179 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 1: And he didn't even he didn't even know he was 1180 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 1: doing it, just like what you're slow, You're missing me, 1181 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, you fucking slick. These guys some 1182 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: slick at. Some of the best comics I know. Some 1183 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 1: of the funniest dudes I've ever seen, are guys that 1184 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: you will probably never see. They're never going to get 1185 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 1: a special they're never going to become something, but they're 1186 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 1: incredible comics. They got brilliant minds. It's the same thing 1187 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: with me. People, how do you get to the level? 1188 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: How do I get to the level you're at? And 1189 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell you, like how we did it, 1190 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 1: and it kind of fights that you need to tell 1191 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: how you need to train all that kind of stuff, 1192 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: But I can't tell you how the starging is gonna come. 1193 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: They just kind of happened. It's I think it's it's timing, 1194 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 1: It's it's destiny, you know what I mean? Right place 1195 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 1: but but I know one thing for sure, you won't 1196 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: make it if you quit. So as comics, says a 1197 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: j J, how you talking about who's absolutely hilarious myself. 1198 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of comics who've been grinding a long time, 1199 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: who are very good at what they do but haven't 1200 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: reached that top level, and some have quit and then 1201 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 1: and then you find other ways to make money. I 1202 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: found other ways to make money until I can get 1203 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: to that next level. But I know I won't get 1204 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: to the next level unless I just keep working. So 1205 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 1: a lot of us, the JJ is, the Maliks, the 1206 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 1: guys who are really good at comic comedy but not 1207 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 1: a household name. The mentality is, I'm just gonna keep 1208 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: being funny. I'm gonna keep working, I'm gonna keep writing, 1209 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 1: and if it's God's will, then I will go to 1210 01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: that next And that's the thing, you got it. That's 1211 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 1: the thing I think that most comedians love and understand 1212 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 1: and appreciate by other comics, right because one, if you 1213 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 1: look up, I always say this, you know, I'm thirty 1214 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: plus years doing this and somebody that's still doing it 1215 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 1: like no matter on what level you look up, and 1216 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: they still they still make their living do a comedy. 1217 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: You're like, yo, yo, um like you still you happen 1218 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 1: to be in the same room man and giving time 1219 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: like for real though, dub like, cause yeah, it's gonna 1220 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 1: be a few people that's gonna be famous and they're gonna, 1221 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:34,919 Speaker 1: you know, be it at the level. Then you see 1222 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 1: people that you've seen alone the way that you know 1223 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: that they legit and that they still doing their thing, 1224 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: and that's what you get props to you, Like, yo, 1225 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 1: this is because the day you just the day you 1226 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 1: decide you're gonna be a comic, like you know, like, 1227 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: stop doing whatever it is you're doing. I ain't doing 1228 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 1: their job no more, goddamnit. I'm gonna stand up and 1229 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 1: in that that level of trust, faith and believing, like 1230 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a micro bone and I'm gonna go 1231 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: out and make a living. Like that's the wild last choice, 1232 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 1: right because I know for me when I got into it, 1233 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have any any um delusions of becoming rich 1234 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 1: and famous. It was never even a thought in my head. 1235 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: It was just like I just want to do this 1236 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: and be able to make a living if that involves 1237 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 1: making two grand a week. Perfect that to me, I 1238 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 1: was like, that's eight grand a month. That's a lot 1239 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: of money if you got if you grew up with 1240 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 1: no money. I grew up with no money. So to 1241 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 1: be making like eighty grand a year doing stand up, 1242 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm winning the same thing with me and 1243 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. I came to my dad and told 1244 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: him I wanted to turn pro. I told you I 1245 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 1: didn't turn pro to us twenty one. I wanted to 1246 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: turn pro when I was eighteen. And it was and 1247 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't that we was broken and and and the 1248 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 1: gut or nothing like that. I just wanted more than 1249 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 1: what we had, and I knew that I could, we 1250 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 1: could get more from boxing. I didn't coming out of 1251 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: the gate. It wasn't being a world champion. It wasn't 1252 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 1: being a multi world champion or even being a multimillionaire. 1253 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: I was eighteen. I didn't really even understand what that meant. 1254 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 1: All I knew was I'm ready to fight now. I'm 1255 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 1: ready to make money now. My dad said, take your time, 1256 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna go for these Olympics. That did out to 1257 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: die best decision I could ever made. I wasn't ready 1258 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 1: when I was eighteen. I was ready, but I wasn't ready. Yeah, 1259 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: everything happens when it's supposed to happen. It don't happen 1260 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: when it's supposed to happen. I think um as a 1261 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,920 Speaker 1: comic coming up, you know, you gotta protect yourself from 1262 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: the bitterness, like something like me, six months into doing comedy, 1263 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 1: I was torn with Jamie Fox doing theaters. So when 1264 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 1: you're around superstar comics, then going from that to George 1265 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,479 Speaker 1: Lopez to Russell, and then being around said doing dates 1266 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 1: with him, you have to really be competent in yourself 1267 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 1: and your own ability. Like I'm not jealous of any 1268 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 1: of my friends. Yeah, well uh no, but on the reels, 1269 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 1: like I'm happy for all their success. You know, when 1270 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 1: I met Russell, Russell was already Russell and said it 1271 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: was just about to blow. But for me, it's more inspiration. 1272 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 1: Where you have a lot of comics that they become 1273 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 1: jealous and bitter and they let that run their career 1274 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: and that sometimes keeps them from reaching their full potential, 1275 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: getting to where they need to be. He used to 1276 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: work with Del Hugo's father, Yeah, at the airline Delta Airlines. Yeah. Yeah, 1277 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: that so when I before I started doing comedy. Everybody's like, 1278 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 1: you should do comedy. So I went to this place 1279 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 1: called Berland West, and uh. I had just had just 1280 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: turned twenty one, so I's like, okay, I can actually 1281 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 1: go to a club. And I went and it was 1282 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 1: jam packed with black people. And I had never this 1283 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 1: is before Deaf Comedy Chamber anything, so you only thought 1284 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 1: the only black comics is Bill Cosby, Richard pryor Flipp 1285 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,439 Speaker 1: Wilson or whoever you whoever you saw. And I saw 1286 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: d L perform. I had never done comedy. Before I 1287 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 1: get off stage, he comes right to me. It was like, 1288 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 1: you enjoyed the show, and I'm like, DL, you know, 1289 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 1: have the lights come on. He's walking around meeting and 1290 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 1: greeting everybody, and I was like, I'm thinking about doing this. 1291 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, you should do it, man, and just 1292 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 1: walks away. So I'm working at Delta Airlines. I was 1293 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 1: in college working at Delta Airlines, and this is like 1294 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 1: a few years later. I had actually started doing comedy 1295 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 1: while I was working at Delta. Then his father calls 1296 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 1: me out of the ben. He's like, come here. Whenever 1297 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: the old timers call you, you gotta drop everything and 1298 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: come down she was like, hey, man, I heard you 1299 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 1: doing this comedy stuff and I said, uh yeah. He's like, 1300 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 1: you might know my son. I said, who's your son? 1301 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 1: He goes Darrell con No, no Darrell and he goes 1302 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 1: He's like, oh you you might know him as d L. 1303 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,919 Speaker 1: I said, d L Huguy is your son. He was like, yeah, 1304 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 1: this is how long ago. I run to the break room. 1305 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 1: I called d L. I was like, yo, I work 1306 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 1: with your father. He's like, nigga, you working at Delta. 1307 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, man, you're gonna do my father really 1308 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 1: be working. I'm like, man, your father gonna be doing ship. 1309 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 1: Remember said the night we found this out, we found 1310 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 1: out that Reuben was He wasn't there that night he was. 1311 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,959 Speaker 1: That was the night we found out that Del's dad, 1312 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 1: uh was Rubens Rubens. I loved it. That was my 1313 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: boy dad's favorite deals, Like he used to do that 1314 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: with you. He was made to me. He played catch. Yeah. 1315 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 1: I went to the great We're gonna dodge your games 1316 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 1: together and everything. At the funeral, they showed pictures. No, 1317 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,439 Speaker 1: but it's a small world, and those are the things 1318 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 1: that are kind of like meant to happen. So like 1319 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 1: says what I'm saying, and like you're saying, you can't tell, 1320 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 1: like saying, how do you become famous? I don't know, 1321 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 1: but I know it starts from being funny. How do 1322 01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 1: you become world champion? I don't know how that that 1323 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 1: what that journey is, but I know I have to 1324 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 1: be a great boxing to consistently. That's what it's about, 1325 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: just being the best that night. And there's no especially 1326 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 1: for comedy. If I was an athlete would be over, 1327 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 1: but for comedy, there's no statute of limitations on success. 1328 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean Rodney Rodney Dangerfield didn't make it until he 1329 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 1: was in his you know, mid fifties. Yeah, you know 1330 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 1: what I mean. So yeah, some people find it late. 1331 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 1: So it's about do you love what you do? And 1332 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 1: when I look at you as a boxer, I go, damn, 1333 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 1: no one to nobody want to fight because you could 1334 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 1: tell this dude likes to fight, you know, he likes 1335 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 1: to fight, but he's not a knucklehead. Yeah yeah, I 1336 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 1: think this was great. Guys. I want to thank um 1337 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 1: oh my guests are being here today. I want to 1338 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:50,439 Speaker 1: thank young Kenny Porter, Kenny ko Porter for holding it 1339 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 1: down for us, for having me Young Reuben man Cito, Paul, Yes, yes, 1340 01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 1: he just met his dad and so great. Uh Sean 1341 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 1: Showtime border sorry Showtime you know listen Manna get you 1342 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 1: off a you know I can run, not that quick. 1343 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 1: Ruben a block you with his shoulders and uh my 1344 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:22,599 Speaker 1: youngest sibling, Cedric the Entertainer. I want to thank everybody 1345 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,959 Speaker 1: for tuning in today and listening to uh this episode 1346 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 1: of culturally Canceled with Russell Peters. Catch us next time 1347 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,599 Speaker 1: when we don't when we talk to I don't know who. 1348 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 1: That's the exciting thing about all this. This Russell's house 1349 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 1: for you though anybody knows that always say this. You 1350 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 1: never know who's going to be a Russell's house. It 1351 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,719 Speaker 1: is you. Look over, you'd be like, is that flow 1352 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:51,799 Speaker 1: from Progressive? Thanks for listening this episode of culturally Canceled 1353 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,720 Speaker 1: with Russell Peters. I am also Russell Peters, so it's 1354 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,720 Speaker 1: redundant to say my name twice, but I'm him. He 1355 01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 1: is I and I am him. Anyway you want to 1356 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 1: see Amy, come see me. Check me out on Russell 1357 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 1: Peters dot com. Find out where I'm at, see if 1358 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sitty near you, and if I am come 1359 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 1: see me, and if I'm not, then tell your friends 1360 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 1: that are near me come see me. I just want 1361 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 1: to see people. Listen, we've all been locked down long enough. 1362 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:19,720 Speaker 1: Let's see each other again. U