1 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Day 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. They invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: let's start with Chase the Afterlife with Santra chan Plain. 7 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: to Coast, am employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 13 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've 14 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 4: been on a journey to prove the existence of life 15 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 4: after death. On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we 16 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 4: now know that our loved ones have survived physical debt 17 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: and so will we. 18 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. In nineteen twenty six, 19 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 3: the physics professor William Barrett described a remarkable incident associated 20 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: with a dying school aged girl The account is retold 21 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: by the dying child's brother, who was present at the time. 22 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: She knew she was passing away and was telling her 23 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: mother how to dispose of her little personal belongings among 24 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: her close friends and playmates, when she suddenly raised her 25 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: eyes as though gazing at the ceiling toward the farther 26 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: side of the room, and after looking steadily and apparently 27 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: listening for a short time, slightly bowed her head and said, yes, Grandma, 28 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: I am coming, only just wait a little while please. 29 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: Our father asked her, Pattie, do you see your grandma? 30 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: Seemingly surprised at the question, she promptly answered, yes, Papa, 31 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: can't you see her? She is right there waiting for me. 32 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: At the same time, she pointed to the ceiling in 33 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: the direction in which she had been gazing, again addressing 34 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: the vision she evidently had of her grandmother. She scowled 35 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: a little impatiently and said, yes, Grandma, I'm coming, but 36 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: wait a minute please. Then she turned once more to 37 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: her mother and finished telling her of what her personal 38 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 3: treasures were to give to her different friends, at last 39 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: giving her attention once more to her grandma, who was 40 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 3: apparently urging her to come at once. She bade us 41 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: each goodbye. Her voice was very feeble and faint, but 42 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: the look in her eyes as she glanced briefly at 43 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: each one of us was as life like and as 44 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: intelligent as it could be. She then fixed her eyes 45 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 3: steadily on the vision, but so faintly that we could 46 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: just catch her words saying, yes, Grandma, I'm coming now. Then, 47 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: without a struggle or evidence of pain of any kind, 48 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: she gazed steadily in the direction she had pointed out 49 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: to us where she saw Grandma, until the absence of 50 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: oxygen in her bloodstream because respiration had ceased, leaving her 51 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: hands in face covered with lifelessness. In two thousand and nine, 52 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: I was part of a large medical study examining the 53 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: last days and hours of life for palliative care patients 54 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: in India. We interviewed one hundred families about their loved 55 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: ones last days. In one of these interviews, I came 56 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: upon a remarkable story of another child whose experience paralleled 57 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: to the one I just recounted. Anita was an eight 58 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 3: year old girl dying of AIDS, but with no medical 59 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: history of opioid or painkiller use. In the week leading 60 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: up to her death, Her prescribed pharmacology. Therapy consisted of 61 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: some antibiotics anti virals, but most of these were refused 62 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: by the child during this period. On the day that 63 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: she died, Anita announced to her mother in a very 64 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: matter of fact way that her late grandmother had come 65 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: to sit with her. Her grandmother had died four months previously. 66 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: The grandmother would sit beside her in chat, occasionally calling 67 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 3: for her mother. She had said, don't hug or hold 68 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: me anymore, don't put me on your lap, because it's 69 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: time for me to go now. Don't do any more 70 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: things for me. I am going with grandmother and I 71 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: need to go now. And later that day she died. 72 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: What I just read to you was written by Professor 73 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: Alan Kelleher, author of such books as The Study of 74 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: Dying From Autonomy to Transformation and The Inner Life of 75 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: the Dying Person, and these words came from the book 76 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: Visitors at the End of Life Finding Meaning and Purpose 77 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: in near death phenomena. I know we've talked many times 78 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: on Shades of the Afterlife about these deathbed visitors that 79 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: come to us within days or hours, or sometimes even 80 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: a month before passing. Out of all the reasons we 81 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: have to believe in the afterlife. For me, I think 82 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: the most comforting stories I hear are about these visitors 83 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: that come. We know and we trust that we have 84 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: invisible beings and loved ones that join us on this earth, 85 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: and they're cheering us on and someday when we return home, 86 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: we'll get to hug them again. But the fact that 87 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 3: no one dies alone, that we have friends and loved 88 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: ones that take us across the vale, well, those stories 89 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: are so meaningful to me. So while we're here together, 90 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: I'd like to share more stories of some of these 91 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: wonderful visitors that take us home and also give some 92 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: comfort that we are never alone. It's not easy being human, 93 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: and I don't think it was meant to be. When 94 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: we look back on our life, I'm sure we can 95 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: agree that there's a lot of growth that came out 96 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: of our toughest times. Each one of us is on 97 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: our own unique journey that help and support is around. 98 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: If you're new to Shades of the Afterlife, or even 99 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: if you're not, I just got the domain name Shadesoftheafterlife 100 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: dot com, where you can easily find all of the 101 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: episodes and if you're interested in more of these wonderful 102 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: stories of deathbed visitors. You can check out episodes seven 103 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: eighty one, two to two and one five four. Here's 104 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: some more stories, this one from a hospice worker. I 105 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: recently witnessed a profound deathbed vision while I was on 106 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: site during a training. An older woman in the later 107 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: stages of pancreatic cancer who was under a close supervision 108 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: due to her declining condition, was understandably upset about her life. 109 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: Although she was declining, she wasn't expected to pass for 110 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: another few weeks. I was shadowing an older resident RN 111 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: on site, and we stopped by her room and we 112 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: chatted with her for a while, the usual charting and 113 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: pain management. Shebang, Suddenly, her demeanor changed completely to one 114 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: of complete happiness and acceptance. She smiled, gazed to a 115 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: corner of the room like she was staring right through us, 116 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: and remarked, Oh, thank goodness, Randy, I was afraid you 117 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: wouldn't show up. I'm ready to go now. As I 118 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: was informed later by another nurse who had spoken with 119 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: her daughter, Randy was her husband of thirty two years, 120 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: who had passed some years prior. She sat up, smiling, 121 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: reached for the corner of the room. Her breathing subsequently 122 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: slowed and you could see the life leave her body 123 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: as she took her last breath, and she fell on 124 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: the pillow behind her. The resident RN, who's been there 125 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: for almost twenty years, didn't even bat an eye. She 126 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: said this incredibly common. Barbara Karnes, an end of life 127 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: educator who worked as a hospice nurse, said she had 128 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: many similar experiences. In the weeks and days prior to death. 129 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: She said patients typically engage in a life review, contemplating 130 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: their triumphs, mistakes, and choices. Many do begin talking to 131 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: people in a world that others can't see. The person 132 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: has withdrawn from this world and they seem to be 133 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: living in another world. They can hear you, but to 134 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: them it sounds like it's afar. Carnes recalled her own 135 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: mother who had conversations with her recently deceased stepfather, as 136 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 3: well as an angel who went from peeking through the 137 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: window to approaching close to the bedside. In another instance, 138 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: Carnes said, a young boy born with aides began collecting 139 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: money in the weeks prior to his death for a 140 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: trip to see his parents, both of of whom had died. 141 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: Hours before his death, the four year old started grinning, 142 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: pointing to the upper corner of the bedroom and calling 143 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: his mother by name. He stayed focused on that corner 144 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: until he died. Carn said, you can't convince me that 145 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: his mom wasn't there to help him get from this 146 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: world to the next. Psychologist Marilyn Mendoza, a clinical instructor 147 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: of psychiatry at Tulane University Medical Center, became interested in 148 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 3: deathbed visions after her mother experienced several. Early one Sunday afternoon, 149 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: Mendoza was straightening up her mother's room as she lay 150 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: in bed when her mother called her over and said 151 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: she was ready to go. I hugged her and I 152 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: gave her a kiss, and then it got really quiet, 153 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: Mendoza said. And then the next thing was she got 154 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: really angry. She said, they tell me it's not my number. 155 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: I can't go. Yet another time, her mother reported that 156 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 3: she couldn't leave because her mother, Mendoza's grandmother, with whom 157 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: she'd had a tempestuous relationship, was blocking the doorway. Mendoza 158 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: feels certain these issues were resolved before she died. My 159 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: mom died on a Sunday, June fourth, she said, and 160 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: after that experience, she was inspired to conduct a survey 161 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: of nurses from specialties such as hospice and oncology to 162 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: explore this deathbed visitation phenomena. Tawny Batty, a nurse and 163 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: end of life educator, says that family members who feel 164 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: responsible and maybe even guilty for not being present at 165 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: the moment of death can take comfort knowing that there 166 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: is help from the other side. Nobody dies alone, she said, 167 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: somebody is all always there with them, adding that bereaved 168 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 3: family members can experience similar comforts a dream in which 169 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: the dead person assures the living that they're all right, 170 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: a sensory experience in which a smell or touch appears 171 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: that they can associate with their loved one. At one 172 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: talk she gave, nurse Batti found that a room full 173 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 3: of thirty six people all had such post death experiences. 174 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: She says, if we started sharing these stories more and 175 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 3: normalizing them, how would that impact how we approach the 176 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: end of our lives. It's not going to change the 177 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: pain part of it of losing someone we love, but 178 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: it takes away that extra sting and leaves us with 179 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: a sense of awe when we come back from the break. 180 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: We are going to hear more stories of these wonderful 181 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: companions that remind us we are never alone and we 182 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: are dearly loved. So we'll be right back. You're listening 183 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast 184 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 185 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: Stay right there, there's more Sandra coming right out. Take 186 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: us with you anywhere. This is the iHeartRadio and Coast 187 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 188 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: And now more Sandra on the iHeart Radio and Coast 189 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 190 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. 191 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: Lev Shestov said, it happens sometimes that the angel of Death, 192 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: when he comes for a soul, sees that he has 193 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: come too soon, that the man's term of life is 194 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: not yet expired. So he does not take the soul away, 195 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: but leaves the man with one of innumerable pairs of 196 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: eyes with which his body is covered. And then the 197 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: man sees strange and new things, more than other men see, 198 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 3: and more than he sees himself with his natural eyes. 199 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: That quote hit a nerve for me. I remember a 200 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: friend of mine after she was diagnosed with breast cancer, 201 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: she got a new lease on life. She said, the 202 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: little things that used to worry her became no big 203 00:14:53,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: deal anymore. Sounds became brighter, voices became happier, color became 204 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: more intense. It was as if she was seeing the 205 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: world through a new set of eyes. It reminds me 206 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: of doctor Wayne Dyer's quote when you change the way 207 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: you look at things, the things you look at change. 208 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: Whether it's a near death experience, an illness, or perhaps 209 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: we are with a loved one when they pass and 210 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: we're lucky enough to witness them experiencing a loved one 211 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: coming for them. I think we do get that new vision, 212 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: as this quote by Lev Shestov says, leaving us with 213 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: an innumerable pair of eyes. When we talk about life 214 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: after death, I think the reason we all want it 215 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: and we all want to know that it's true, is 216 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: to help us live a better life. To know that 217 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: our loved ones are still around, and then we'll get 218 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: to see them again and it can give some meaning 219 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: to our life. I don't want any of us to 220 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: have a near death experience, but if we can have 221 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: that transformation and be able to live a greater quality 222 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: of life with fresh eyes that can experience so much. 223 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: That's what I want from these episodes. Doctor Michael Barbiteau 224 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: is a retired palliative care physician an author of the 225 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: books Caring for the Dying and Reflections of a Setting Sun, 226 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: Healing Experiences around Death. He says, I have worked as 227 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: a palliative care doctor for almost twenty five years. The 228 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: transition from mainstream medicine was more challenging than I had imagined. 229 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: For the first time, I encountered people, in the course 230 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: of their dying described experiences that defied logic. These included 231 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: visions of predeceased relatives, prophetic dreams, out of body experiences, 232 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: and waking from a comatose state immediately before death. Others 233 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: exhibited a serenity I had not considered possible. He says. 234 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 3: The magnificent of such enigmatic phenomena is captured in this 235 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 3: one remarkable sentence spoken by an elderly woman to her 236 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 3: grieving family just before she died. Beaming with a smile, 237 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: she said, my bags are packed, my boat has come. 238 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: I am going on a beautiful holiday, and none of 239 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 3: you can come with me. He shares these stories Laura 240 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: had been unwell for many months. She had an aggressive 241 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: form of cancer that had spread throughout her body. She 242 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: was a determined woman, and despite increasing weakness and weight loss, 243 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 3: she tenaciously hung onto her independence. It ultimately took a 244 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 3: fall at home before she would accept admission to the 245 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: local palliative care unit. Over time, her condition deteriorated and 246 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 3: it became clear to her family and her carers that 247 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 3: she was dying. Laura knew about her cancer, but as 248 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: had been her habit, she politely steered any conversation away 249 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 3: from her ill health and welfare. She was frightened, and 250 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: her fear of death had been exacerbated by the sudden 251 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: and unexpected death of her husband, Tony some weeks before. 252 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: The family and hospital staff wondered how she would cope. 253 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: When the moment of truth came. The night before Laura died, 254 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: she said to her daughter, Tony is coming tonight. Stunned 255 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: by this statement, her daughter asked, what are you going 256 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 3: to do, to which Laura happily replied, I think we 257 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: will go dancing. Laura and Tony both loved dancing, and 258 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: it was at a dance that they had first met. 259 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 3: Laura died peacefully in her sleep that very night. And 260 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: this is the story of Trent. Trent was a young 261 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: man with rapidly advancing cancer. It had spread to his bones, 262 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: which resulted in considerable pain. Despite frequent courses of radiotherapy 263 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: and large doses of morphine, the pain increased, necessitating his 264 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: admission to the hospital. Adjustments to treatment resulted in some, 265 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: though not complete, pain relief. Despite the large doses of morphine. 266 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: Trent remained lucid at all times. He was a popular 267 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 3: personality and his hospital room was always overflowing with visitors. 268 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: One evening, his father joined the hordes of people in 269 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: the room, and as he went to sit on the 270 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: only empty chair, his son called out, be careful, dad, 271 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: don't sit on my friend. The father, looking at the 272 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: empty chair, asked what friend. He is a good friend 273 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: and he is here to help me, Trent said, and 274 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 3: he went on to explain that his friend had, unbeknown 275 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: to everyone, been with him for several days and often 276 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: occupied that chair when no one was around. Everyone was stunned. 277 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: And the story of Jane. Several years ago, I was 278 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: one of many doctors looking after five year old Jane, 279 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 3: who had leukemia. She had been sick for most of 280 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: her short life, and at the time of my involvement, 281 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 3: she was close to death. Although she was unable to 282 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: express her feelings, she was clearly frightened, and for this 283 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: reason had for the past few months shared her parents' 284 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: King Siz's bed at night. Every morning, her father would 285 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: rise early to make his wife a cup of tea. 286 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: Jane was usually asleep at these times. One morning, he 287 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: was surprised to find her wide awake, but chose not 288 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: to say anything as she was staring out the window, 289 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 3: and for the first time in months, appeared serene, peaceful, 290 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: with a smile on her face. When he returned some 291 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: minutes later with the cup of tea, he found his 292 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: daughter had died. It may be speculative, but I would 293 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: like to believe Jane was not looking aimlessly out the window, 294 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: but was enthralled by a deathbed visitor. An eight year 295 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 3: old boy dying of cancer whose parents had avoided talking 296 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: to him about death, told them one day that he 297 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: dreamed that Jesus had pulled up to his house in 298 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: a big yellow bus and invited him aboard, telling him 299 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 3: he was soon to die and come home. This is 300 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: a story from doctor Elizabeth Koobler Ross. There was an 301 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: American Indian woman who was hit by a hit and 302 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 3: run driver on the highway and was near death when 303 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: a total stranger stopped and asked if he could do 304 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: anything to help her. She said, no, there is nothing 305 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: else you can do for me. But then on second thought, 306 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: she said, if one day you go to the Indian Reservation, 307 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: tell my mother that I was okay, that I was 308 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: not only okay, but very happy because I am already 309 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 3: with my dad. And then she died in the arms 310 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: of the stranger. This man was so touched that he 311 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: was at the right time, at the right place, that 312 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: he drove seven hundred miles out of his way to 313 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: the Indian Reservation, where the American Indian mother told him 314 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: that her husband, the victim's dad, died one hour before 315 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: the car accident of a coronary on the Indian Reservation, 316 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: seven hundred miles apart. Doctor Christopher Kerr, who wrote the 317 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: book Death Is But a Dream, is the chief executive 318 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: Officer and chief medical Officer of Hospice and Palliative Care Buffalo, 319 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 3: New York. Here is a clip of a son talking 320 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: about his mother's end of life vision and her visitors. 321 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 5: Well, just prior to her going into the unit, she 322 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 5: was having those experiences here home, especially like made she 323 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 5: was home and I would ask her and I who 324 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 5: are you talking to? She would call these people by 325 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 5: name and I know who they were on for a while, 326 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 5: so that was the start, and I continued on along 327 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 5: with those conversations. She had also made the prediction a 328 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 5: week before she passed. She made the comment he told 329 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 5: me the end of the week. And I asked her, 330 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 5: and I said, who's he? And she just pointed up 331 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 5: to the ceiling and she looked up at the ceiling 332 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 5: and I said, well, what do you mean the end 333 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: of the week, And she just looked at me and 334 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 5: she said death. What do you say to that? And 335 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 5: she was lucid. It wasn't like she was in and 336 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 5: out of consciousness. 337 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 6: At the time, at the time. 338 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 7: Time at the time. 339 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 5: So when she was so like I said, this was 340 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 5: like about seven days before and then she had made 341 00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 5: colon day to another visitor and as I was basically 342 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 5: said the same thing. You know where at the end 343 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 5: of the week, you know, And we said, well to 344 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 5: the end of the week, I'll be dead. You know. 345 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 5: Somebody's laying there. You know, they're not doing well, and 346 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 5: surely nobody's telling them that, none of the staff, none 347 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 5: of the family, you know. And then after that, then 348 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 5: you know, the continuation of the conversations with past family members, friends. 349 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 5: And then one of the last ones that she had 350 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 5: was with a parish priest when I was growing up. 351 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 5: This priest had been murdered in the rectory garage and 352 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 5: this was back in January of nineteen sixty. He was 353 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 5: talking to her because she said his name twice in 354 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 5: two different cases. 355 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 7: She called out his name. 356 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 5: And so, and she not only mentioned it to us, 357 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 5: she had mentioned it to one of the staff who 358 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 5: up and to know the story of this priest. 359 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 7: And it just. 360 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 5: Blew her away, because she commented to us unless she 361 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 5: mentioned father, beaut probably up until the last three days, 362 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 5: maybe I would say the last three days. And then 363 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 5: she was pretty much sedated, pretty good. 364 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 7: What was looked very. 365 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 5: Peaceful, you know, like she had had her conversations, you know, 366 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 5: people who had come to her, you know, which I 367 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 5: think brought her a lot of comfort, you know. But 368 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 5: that's pretty much what covered those eleven days. And I 369 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 5: was I was okay with all because I knew they 370 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 5: were helping. 371 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: Her get ready. 372 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: Helping her get ready. It's a natural process, one that 373 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: we are looked after, cared for, and we don't go 374 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: through it alone. When we get back from break, we'll 375 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 3: hear some words from the dying about living. You're listening 376 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast 377 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 378 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. There's more Shades of the Afterlife coming 379 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: right up. 380 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 5: On the iHeartRadio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 381 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: Listen anytime, any place. 382 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: Hey, this is George Nori and you're listening to the 383 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Dam Paranormal Podcast Network. 384 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. 385 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: Now let's get back to more with Sandra. 386 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain 387 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 3: sharing some stories of deathbed visions that no one dies 388 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: alone and we have a cheering committee friends loved ones 389 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: there to bring us home. To me, it is the 390 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: most comforting thing to know that not only in life, 391 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: but in death, we have friends invisibly by our side. 392 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: In this segment, I want you to hear the voices 393 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 3: of some of the dying and some of their experiences, 394 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 3: and one is even a message for the living. 395 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 7: Now. 396 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: These dreams are true to life. They are just as 397 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 3: clear as if the dying person is talking to a 398 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 3: doctor or a family member in the room. They are 399 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 3: absolutely that real. If you have not yet gotten yourself 400 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: a copy of the book Death Is But a Dream 401 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: by doctor Chris for Kerr, I highly recommend it. As 402 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: a hospice physician, he studied more than sixteen hundred dying 403 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 3: patients and tells so many incredible stories. This next story 404 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 3: comes from Palliative Care Buffalo, and this is the story 405 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: told by Jeanne. 406 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 8: This was a very significant thing. But when I woke up, 407 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 8: I was happy. It left me with a good feeling 408 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 8: that somebody was there. I was laying in bed and 409 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 8: people were walking very slowly by me. The right hand 410 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 8: side I didn't know, but they were all very friendly 411 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 8: and they touched my arm or my hand when they 412 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 8: went by. But the other side were people that I knew. 413 00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 8: My mom and dad were there, my uncle, everybody I 414 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 8: knew that was dead was there, and they passed and 415 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 8: did the same thing. The only thing was my husband 416 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 8: wasn't there. 417 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 7: Nor was my dog. 418 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 8: And I knew that I would be seeing them or 419 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 8: hoping to see them during the period of time. After 420 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 8: I woke up the next day, I assume I felt good. 421 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 8: I felt good to see some people and the other 422 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 8: ones didn't bother me either. When I told my family 423 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 8: that I was happy about it, and that's what they asked, 424 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 8: how does it make you feel? Well? I feel good 425 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 8: about it. I thought it was a good dream. But boy, 426 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 8: I remember seeing every piece of their face, and I 427 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 8: mean I know that was my mom and dad and 428 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 8: uncle and my brother in laws. I have seen my 429 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 8: mom other recently more. 430 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 7: How do you feel when you when you see her? 431 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 8: Oh, wonderful. I can't say that my mother and I 432 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 8: got along all those years, but we made. 433 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 6: Up for it at the end. 434 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, but I never realized it as much as lately. 435 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 8: It seems like I'm doing more and having more substantial 436 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 8: dreams than if people would understand them or go pooh 437 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 8: pool And you know, I don't believe in that kind 438 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 8: of stuff. I think more and more people are getting 439 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 8: a little bit more hip to dreams than than they 440 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 8: were before. 441 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: Doctor Kurr says some patients describe dead friends and relatives 442 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: in these dreams as waiting for them. One woman reported 443 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: that she had both waking and sleeping dreams of six 444 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 3: family members in her room. She added that they were 445 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: waiting for me, and that she felt it was really 446 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: good to see them. Three days before another woman died, 447 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: she reported experiencing both waking visions and dreams of being 448 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: at the top of a staircase with her dead husband 449 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 3: waiting for her at the bottom of the staircase. Once again, 450 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: the presence of these dead friends and family members was 451 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: experienced as comforting. There were patients, however, who expressed that 452 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: they were not ready to die, and these patients experienced 453 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: some distress at the fact that the dead were in 454 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 3: fact waiting for them. Next, I'd like to play for 455 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: you some words from Alice. Alice is a palliative care patient, 456 00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: and her words with her illness are somewhat muffled. I 457 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: feel that your soul will understand most of what she 458 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: is trying to say, if not all, because her joy 459 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: and her passion and her message for all of us 460 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: is profound. Here's Alice. 461 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 9: My name is Alice Smith. I'm seventy nine, was married twice. 462 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 9: My first husband died, my second husband I descouded. I 463 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 9: have three surviving Silvera my other son died. I'm presently 464 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 9: an independent living that a tomal disease. It's not thermo, 465 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 9: la femo, a number of didatas, but that's the man. 466 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 7: Mom, and I don't. 467 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 6: Know if I love that long as well. We don't know. 468 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 10: I'm having thought and there's a tempess ministry that comes around. 469 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 11: My name is Renee, and she leads me through meditation, 470 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 11: and she usually plays a song and she'll read a 471 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 11: verse of some thought. But this time she started out 472 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 11: with here I. 473 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 6: Am Lord, which is a very one of a song 474 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 6: that I like. 475 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 9: I used to be able to park, I used to 476 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 9: be able to sing, and I just love to sing 477 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 9: that song where I was able to sing. 478 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 6: As I would saying for the meditation, and my eyes 479 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 6: closed listening to the words. 480 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 9: And in front of him up here my mother, in 481 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 9: front of my father, and behind them was my husband 482 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 9: who died in nineteen. 483 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 6: Seventy four, my son who died in two thousand and eleven, 484 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 6: my brother Noramy. 485 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 9: I was his dared he died at the age of 486 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 9: sixty five in two thousand and nine, and my mom 487 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 9: had one head up to me. 488 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 6: I found this enormous love. 489 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 9: You just can't explain the enormous love I felt coming 490 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 9: from my mother to me. I never felt that that 491 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 9: kind of fit when she was alive. I knew she 492 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 9: loved me, trust me, I knew that, but everything she did. 493 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 6: But this love was so warm, and IN loved it. 494 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 9: And they were all there and went behind them, larger 495 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 9: than Jesus. 496 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 6: When the song ended, I looked him and they, and. 497 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 10: All I said is I'm gonna have one hell of 498 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 10: a want in the party, but I need to heaven. 499 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 6: And then I ticed me. I used hell in the 500 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 6: same sentence that us heaven. 501 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 9: But it was so warm, so it hards me explain 502 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 9: the joy and the peace. 503 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 6: They were as all and sick as they were going 504 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 6: to die. 505 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 7: They were younger. 506 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 6: My son was the same age, but he wasn't sick. 507 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 9: The blowingness from his disease and the cancer was gone. 508 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 6: My brother nor me was able to see. He wasn't 509 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 6: fight anymore, and he smiled. He looked lovely. 510 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 9: My dad was happy. He always wasn't a happy person. 511 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 9: My husband is serious. He died in serious. He looked 512 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 9: and he did in his series. He had that age 513 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 9: and the papador the night successy and my mom wasn't 514 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 9: I I saw her. She wasn't stand bones. She was 515 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 9: healthy as she used to be a while. She made 516 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 9: dinners on Sunday and. 517 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 6: My dad was right behind her. He has hand on 518 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 6: her shoulder. He just feck. 519 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 9: How is expressed intense love? 520 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 6: I never fucked that and chance love in my life. 521 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 6: It's beyond physical. It wasn't physical. It was internal, spiritual. 522 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 10: Perhaps if it's a tarry diver beneath them, they're not 523 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 10: making it up. It given't comfort. You have your own emotions. 524 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,479 Speaker 10: You're losing someone. They're trying to take them. You mind 525 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 10: them the river, but they made it in comfort. From 526 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 10: the end of life vision. 527 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 6: This is living the hope of a life beyond support. 528 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 9: Them to hold their hand, be them. We need you 529 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 9: to lead them. We need your love. We need you 530 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 9: to say I'll lead them using their home. My mom 531 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 9: didn't die in hospice, as I told her. 532 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 11: Mom, living your brother, living your parents, I'll think there there. 533 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 7: No they're waiting for you. She died this morning. 534 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 6: Tell them if they would be something, tell them it's 535 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 6: okay to know. Is there anything you'd like to share 536 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 6: with Propenny? Healthcare professionals about this experience. They are patients. 537 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 10: You are the ones the help I do fight and 538 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 10: my husband's people more than my family. 539 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 5: I know. 540 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 6: I burned my family, I burned the housbands. They're fame. 541 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 6: They will help you. 542 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 9: I have more, have been nurses, help my husband, transician professions. 543 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 6: Take care of those people. We will buy on you. 544 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 6: You deserve every I think, ay you think that. 545 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 3: I know. It was difficult to understand Alice's words. But 546 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 3: her mom, her dad, her brother, her son, who are 547 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 3: all in the afterlife, she saw as healthy and well. 548 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: Her brother was no longer blind, her son, who died 549 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 3: very bloated from cancer, was healthy, young and well, and 550 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 3: her husband looked in his thirties with his pompadour hairdoo 551 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 3: and she said he was sexy. Her message is you 552 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 3: may be losing someone and you want them to live, 553 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: but at the end of their life, support them, hold 554 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 3: their hand, be there for them, understand their visions are real. 555 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 3: And her message for healthcare providers believe your patients that 556 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 3: she confided in her hospice people more than her family. 557 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 3: They were trained and they could take it. And she 558 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 3: gave accolades to the healthcare providers and how special they are. 559 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 3: Let's go to the break and there's much more to come. 560 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 561 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Work. 562 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. 563 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: There's more Shades of the Afterlife coming right up. 564 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: Hey, it's producer Tom and you're right where you need 565 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: to be. 566 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 5: This is the iHeartRadio in Coast to Coast AM Parinormal 567 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 5: Podcast Network. 568 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's the Wizard of Weird Joshua pe Warren 569 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: and now here's more Shades of the Afterlife. 570 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlaine. 571 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 3: Back in two thousand and twenty one, Las Vegas aerospace 572 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 3: entrepreneur Robert Bigelow announced his very first contest looking for 573 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 3: evidence of life after death. Since then, he has given 574 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 3: out over two million dollars in prize money, and his 575 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 3: website Bigelowinstitute dot org has some fascinating essays of why 576 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 3: to believe in the afterlife. Now this isn't light reading. 577 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: These are chock full of evidence and supporting material. In 578 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty one contest, one of the honorable mentions 579 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 3: was our friend doctor Christopher Kerr. You can read a 580 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 3: lot of supporting details about these deathbed visions and also 581 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: check out his book Death Is But a Dream and 582 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 3: visit his website doctor Christopher Kerr dot com. This episode 583 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: will be aired during the holiday season, but I'm aware 584 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 3: you may be listening to this at any time of 585 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 3: the year, so whether you are celebrating the holidays, a birthday, 586 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 3: an anniversary. Next, I'd like to play for you a 587 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 3: special message from our friend Eric through the trance mediumship 588 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 3: of Scott Milligan. How special you are and how close 589 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 3: your loved ones are. 590 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 7: Step ever so gently throughout this life in which you live, 591 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 7: but stamp so loudly in the world of your dreams. 592 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 7: Of this world in which you live is ever so 593 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 7: fragchild for you. But isn't everything that is beautiful is 594 00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 7: fragchild for each of you who are born to listen 595 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 7: to our world naturality, Our world listens to you, for 596 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 7: we come only to serve to serve God. However once 597 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 7: is God or many of you, Oh the gifts of 598 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 7: the soul that serves the spirit. In cooperation with each other, 599 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 7: we walk with you, or it was once said, if 600 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 7: you are to follow me, I will abandon you. If 601 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 7: I was to follow you, you abandon me. Or I 602 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 7: walk only by the sign, no one in front or 603 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 7: less behind. We are patient with the steps, but within 604 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 7: your dreams, the soul experience whatever the mind can pain, 605 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 7: for her soul has come for experience. But walk in 606 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 7: both worlds. Sometimes it is a foolish dream, but dream nevertheless. 607 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 7: Or you see through child's eyes such innocent for they 608 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 7: still echo the world in which they come from, and 609 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 7: how this world is molding a potential, for it is 610 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 7: a step to a greater world to come. But we 611 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 7: are reminded as you approach the festival of life, so 612 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 7: many people will view this time differently. For it is 613 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 7: not the size or the glitter of the gift you 614 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 7: give that will cause you worry in the months that follows. 615 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 7: It is a gift of your company. For a child 616 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 7: to be heard, a child to stand with you, to 617 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 7: create memory. That is the gift that they carry. For 618 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 7: turn y, For a toy that is given today will 619 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 7: simply be discarded as this world continues to influence. For 620 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 7: we cannot give you pockets of gold or silver, but 621 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 7: we can give you knowledge, share story, or simply listen 622 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 7: that enriches the whole fabric of existence. For many of 623 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 7: you who have prayed, you have prayed for peace, You 624 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 7: have prayed for warmth and comfort. As money seems to 625 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 7: cause such distress in a time where your world is bright, 626 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 7: Do not concern your serums, my friends. If the turkey 627 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 7: is not as fat or plump as the one before, 628 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 7: do not concern yourself. Is the glass is only a 629 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 7: little instead of being a love, but concern yourself with this, 630 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 7: my friends. But it's a sharing your love. And if 631 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 7: children run and mark, do not respond in anger, but 632 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 7: run with them. Be with them. Oh, there are countries 633 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 7: of your world where it isn't so, and children are 634 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 7: viewed to be different. The table will not be set, 635 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 7: the plate will be empty. You hear in your houses 636 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 7: and your wholes great celebrations, and others will hear the 637 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 7: sound of war. People will pray for snow, and a 638 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 7: dusting will be granted. Others will pray for warmth, for 639 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 7: they have no billow to rest their weary here. Now, 640 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 7: I've not come here to be a story teller or 641 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 7: to remind you of the tales of Scrooge. Those who 642 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 7: have little the naturality have a love because they squeeze 643 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 7: every ounce of fun and enjoyment for what they have. 644 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 7: Those who throw money a children who are petulant, it 645 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 7: will never be enough. For look back when one was 646 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 7: a child. One who have a handful of coal, an 647 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 7: apple or an orange. For if one lived by the docks, 648 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 7: the spiceships their fragrance, who carry it on the cold 649 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 7: breath of wind? For we knew then it is about 650 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 7: bringing our families together. So the spirit of this year 651 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 7: is to be thankful for the air that you breathe, 652 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 7: the peace that you hear, and the spirit that walks 653 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 7: through us all. No matter what faith you carry, you 654 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 7: could always find enjoyment listening to others who are celebrating 655 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 7: at this time. Knowledge is the true currency of your world. 656 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,919 Speaker 7: Share it wisely, there is once again the sun has set, 657 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 7: and I will go silent to your ears, but not 658 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 7: silent to your heart. For if you are to place 659 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 7: your hand across your heart, what you feel is your 660 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 7: beat of your own heart. But also for love, the 661 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 7: one that stands with you is trying to say I'm 662 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 7: still there. So if you are distress and you feel 663 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 7: that you are aknown place your hand across your heart 664 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 7: and hear the voice of all those you miss. We 665 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 7: are carried in your heart as you are carried in 666 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 7: all love. Good day to you, my friend, and. 667 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,399 Speaker 3: Good day to Eric. You can meet Eric and ask 668 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 3: your own questions on a Friday with Scott Milligan and myself. 669 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 3: You can simply find our next in the Arms of 670 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 3: Eternity at We Don't Die dot com. Click on the 671 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 3: store page and you can also come visit me on 672 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 3: the free Sunday Gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included. 673 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 3: As I said in the beginning, I know life is hard. 674 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 3: I want to leave you with this quote from Silverbirch. 675 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 3: The seed of truth cannot grow where the heart is 676 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,240 Speaker 3: hard and the mind is stony, but can flourish only 677 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 3: where there is a receptive soul, one who is ready 678 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 3: to receive truth and to follow truth wherever she leads. 679 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 3: Before you are ready for truth to dwell in your 680 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,919 Speaker 3: midst you must have endured some of those experiences which 681 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 3: life provides in order to make you ready for the truth. 682 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 3: When you had those experiences, you may have thought that 683 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 3: life was bitter and harsh, unkind, that you were forgotten 684 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 3: or lonely, or neglected, and fate had dealt you a 685 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 3: very hard blow. But the soul grows through adversity and 686 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 3: the pure gold emerges after the processes of crushing and 687 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 3: refining have taken place. Remember the diamond takes a whole 688 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 3: lot of time and pressure to become a gem. And 689 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 3: remember the pearl, that bit of sand, the irritant that 690 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 3: polishes one to be a beauty. My friend, you are 691 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 3: never alone. You are loved. Now I have a request 692 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 3: that you go do something nice for yourself or treat 693 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:48,240 Speaker 3: yourself to something. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening 694 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast 695 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 3: to Coast am Hairinormal podcast Network. 696 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 697 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 2: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 698 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 2: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 699 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 2: to iHeartRadio dot com.