1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of iHeartRadio and Grim 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Minky listener, discretion is advised. Of 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: all the places I investigate, believe it or not, lighthouses 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: may be one of the saddest I think of the 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: lighthouse keepers. They're very living to provide a guiding light, 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: to keep people from danger. Their job was built in 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: routine and discipline, for to fail meant failing those at 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: sea who so desperately depended on them for safety. Is 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: it any wonder lighthouses are notoriously haunted that in death 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: those who once manned them still feel enough of a 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: sense of duty to return and diligently walk hundreds of steps, 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: forever manning a beacon in the darkness. And how sad 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: that something once so noble and important has long been 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: replaced with technology, superpowered lights and lenses. How do these 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: spirits feel now? What are they trying to tell us? 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: Is time and time again they don't leave their posts, 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: even after they have long passed away. Perhaps the Pensacola 18 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Lighthouse can guide us to an understanding. I'm Amy Brune, 19 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: and this is Haunted Road. If you were to hike 20 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: along San Carlos Beach near the Pensacola Naval Air Station, 21 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: and you glanced up on a dark night, you might 22 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: see a brilliant beam of light in the sky. It 23 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: would pulse on for twenty seconds, then flicker off again, 24 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: only to light up once more after another twenty seconds. 25 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: The beam comes from the one thousand watt bulb mounted 26 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: in the Pensacola Lighthouse, a beacon that's amplified by the 27 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: historic over one hundred and seventy year old fresnel lens. 28 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: It's so you can spot it from twenty seven miles away. 29 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Unlike many haunted places, the Pensacle Lighthouse is still in 30 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: operation today. It's not abandoned or in a state of disrepair. 31 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: It also doesn't have an on site keeper operating its 32 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: machinery anymore. Its processes are all automated. The roughly one 33 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty foot tall tower looms over the two 34 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: story keepers quarters. The residence, now home to historic exhibits 35 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: for the public, is surrounded by balconies on each floor. 36 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: It has a cheerful red roof, while the lighthouse itself 37 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: is brown and white. The narrow base is a mere 38 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: thirty feet in diameter, but the higher it goes, the 39 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: narrower it becomes to a scant fifteen feet at the top. 40 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: If you were to ascend the one hundred seventy seven 41 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: steps up the winding spiral staircase, as I have done 42 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: in the past, and I do not necessarily recommend it, 43 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: you'd find an automated light system. It's completely surrounded by 44 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: swirled glass that redirects and amplifies the beam. As reported 45 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: by the National Park Services website. On the fresnel lens 46 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: outside sixteen gargoyles ring a catwalk around the lighthouse exterior. 47 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: These are spouts meant to redirect rainwater from the building, 48 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: but the Pensacola Lighthouse and Maritime Museum claims they also 49 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: keep evil spirits at bay. Given the lighthouse as history, 50 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: it's no wonder the builders were worried about malicious energies. 51 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: The city of Pensacola, nestled right on the boundary between 52 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: Florida and Alabama, is named after the indigenous people of 53 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: the area. The town was founded in August fifteen fifty 54 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: nine and almost immediately destroyed like a bad omen. According 55 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: to the Pensacola Lighthouse and Maritime Museum's history page, a 56 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: hurricane thrashed the community just weeks after it was founded, 57 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: beginning on September nineteenth. The death toll hit the hundreds, 58 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: and the devastation destroyed the supplies the sour virus needed 59 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: to ensure their town's success. After that settlement failed, nearly 60 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: a century and a half passed until Spanish colonists erected 61 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: Fort San Carlos State Astoria in the same place. Once again, 62 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: the community only had a short time to flourish before 63 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: disaster struck. Armed conflict broke out between the Spanish and 64 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: the French, and later the British entered the mix to Finally, 65 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: General Andrew Jackson, who later become president, seized the city 66 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: now known as Pensacola for the United States in eighteen eighteen. 67 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: When construction on the lighthouse began six years later, there 68 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: were more bizarre disasters. The Pensacola News Journal reported that 69 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: early in the building process, large numbers of highly venomous 70 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: water moccasins migrated from the Gulf coast to the construction site. 71 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: The snakes would lurk in piles of bricks, attacking any 72 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: worker unfortunate enough to cross their path. The servants were 73 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: even occasionally spotted on high scaffolding, and no one could 74 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: explain how the snakes had climbed so high. In spite 75 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: of these concerning harbingers, the lighthouse was completed and opened 76 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: its doors in December of eighteen twenty four. The first keeper, 77 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Ingraham, moved into the on site accommodations. For two years, 78 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: he lived there alone. Every other hour he'd have to 79 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: climb to the top of the lighthouse to operate the 80 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: mechanism that kept it lit. Luckily, Jeremiah didn't remain in 81 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: solitude for long. He was married in eighteen twenty four, 82 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: and he and his wife, Mikhaela, had three children together. 83 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: She took over his keeper's work when he died, and 84 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: when she passed, her son in law inherited the job. 85 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: He also oversaw numerous renovations, including the significant improvements that 86 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: were made to the lens at the top of the tower. 87 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: He resigned around the time of the Civil War, and 88 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: operation of the lighthouse transferred to new keepers, many of 89 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: whom continued to improve the facilities and upgrade the technology. 90 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: They also rebuilt the lighthouse keeper's quarters in the midst 91 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: of these improvements. The next few decades were marked by 92 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: more strange natural disasters. The lighthouse was hit by lightning twice. 93 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: A faulty lightning rod allowed one of these jolts to 94 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: damage it during a thunderstorm, according to the lighthouse website. 95 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: A few years later, a tornado further wrecked the building, 96 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: and an earthquake shook the lighthouse so hard it made 97 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: the bottom floor's pendulum clock stop at nine oh seven pm. 98 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: All the while, occasional hurricanes raged in the Gulf of Mexico, 99 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: wearing down the facilities further. But these years were marked 100 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: by heartwarming good fortune too. On January twenty first, eighteen 101 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: eighty four, the lighthouse keeper's wife gave birth and the 102 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: on site residence. In the Pensacola News Journal, reporter Dot 103 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: Brown noted that this was the first dock documented instance 104 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: in which anyone was born within the keeper's quarters. About 105 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: twenty years later, it seems the first recorded death on 106 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: the property occurred. At that time. The keeper was a 107 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: man named George T. Clifford. His daughter, Ellen, who went 108 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: by Ella, apparently had a lot of affection for the property. 109 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: She was married in the lighthouse in nineteen o three, 110 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: and she returned to the quarters when she became seriously 111 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: ill in late January nineteen o five. It's not clear 112 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: what was making her sick, but many believes she suffered 113 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: from complications after giving birth five months earlier. The twenty 114 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: three year old passed on the evening of January twentieth, 115 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: and it's believed she breathed her last in the keeper's residence. 116 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: There don't seem to have been any other deaths on 117 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: the property, but the lighthouse's history is full of more 118 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: eerie occurrences, like the time a flock of wild ducks 119 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: passed through the lens room, damaging the equipment, and the 120 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: lighthouse was the site of grave injustices too. In nineteen 121 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: oh nine, the US federal government forced several families to 122 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: relocate off the land surrounding the lighthouse. The officials claimed 123 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: this was federal territory and the families there had no 124 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: right to stay, in spite of the fact that many 125 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: had dwelled and paid property taxes there for decades. The 126 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: displaced residents included a widow named Winnie Hart. Her husband, Charles, 127 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: was an escaped, formerly enslaved person. According to a nonprofit 128 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: called Impact one hundred Pensacola, he worked on construction for 129 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: the lighthouse and other structures on the surrounding naval base. 130 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: How ironic that his family was no longer welcome on 131 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: the land he'd helped develop. In the nineteen thirties, the 132 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Hatton family moved onto the property after the patriarch accepted 133 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: a job as lighthouse keeper. Winnie Who of the Pensacola 134 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: News Journal reports that when they surveyed the keeper's quarters, 135 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: they noticed a strange red stain on the floor in 136 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: the second story southeast bedroom. According to Who, the mark 137 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: was about a foot long, just beside the fireplace. Additionally, 138 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: there were circular red dribbles throughout the room, some up 139 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: to a quarter in diameter. No one in the hat 140 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: and family knew how it got there, but they recognized 141 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: what the stain was blood. The keeper's young son, Emmett Hatton, 142 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: watched his mother spend who knows how much time scrubbing 143 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: the floor to remove the disturbing splotches, but her efforts 144 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: were fruitless. The rusty discoloration was permanent. Who reported that 145 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: at some point in the nineteen fifties, one of the 146 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: lighthouse's residents must have installed vinyl tiles to cover the 147 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: blood stains. From then, the spots went undiscovered until nineteen 148 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: ninety four, when renovators pulled up the tiles and revealed 149 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: the old marks, still visible and unnerving roughly forty years later. 150 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: This kicked off a period of research in which countless 151 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: people tried to determine how so much blood could have 152 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: spilled on the floor. Two theories emerged, both of which 153 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: are unsupported by the historic record. Some say the spots 154 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: are the last remaining evidence of a homicide that took 155 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: place in the pensacle A lighthouse. Specifically, rumour says that 156 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: the very first lighthouse keeper, Jeremiah Ingraham, was killed by 157 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: his wife, Mikayla. Depending on the story, she may have 158 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: attacked him in a murderous frenzy because the isolation at 159 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: the remote lighthouse had driven her mad, or perhaps Jeremiah 160 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: attacked her first and Mikayla killed him in self defense. Ultimately, 161 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: those rumors are almost certainly idle speculation. Mikayla and Jeremiah 162 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: both died before the current lighthouse keeper's quarters were even built. 163 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: Other murderous gossip suggests the victim was one of the 164 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: keeper's anonymous assistants, but these stories date to the nineteen nineties, 165 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: well after the alleged homicide would have happened. Some argue 166 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: these discolourations are from when Ella Clifford Miller, the lighthouse 167 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: keeper's daughter who died in the quarter's, gave birth. However, 168 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: the baby wasn't born in the lighthouse, but in a hospital, 169 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: so the mystery remains unsolved today. That said, when people 170 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: visit the blood stained bedroom, many report that even after 171 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: all these years, it still smells like blood. Besides that, 172 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: visitors to the lighthouse have reported that doors open and 173 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: close by themselves, lights flicker, and bursts of cold air 174 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: rush through the building even on warm days. Guests may 175 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,479 Speaker 1: hear disembodied voices or footsteps or knocking on the windows. 176 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: It's said that numerous people have been groped while ascending 177 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: the stairs, and at least one visitor felt someone pull 178 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: her hair. You hear similar accounts about the keeper's quarters, 179 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: plus stories about figures appearing in windows and a lingering 180 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: scent of tobacco even when no one is smoking. Alan 181 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: Brown's Ghosts of Florida's Gulf Coast says when tour guides 182 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: are alone in the residence, they hear disembodied voices calling 183 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: their names. One of the lighthouse's tour coordinators, Rob Booth, 184 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: says there are six ghosts who haunt the Pensacol Lighthouse, 185 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: but only two have a verifiable history with the building. 186 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: These are Ella, the keeper's daughter, and another lighthouse keeper 187 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: named Samuel Lawrence. He's said to lurk in the stairwell 188 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: and at the top of the tower, grabbing visitors who 189 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: ascend the steps. Local lore suggests two enslaved people named 190 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: Thomas and Reynald also haunt the lighthouse grounds. Booth claims 191 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: they ran away, only to be recaptured and hanged near 192 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: the lighthouse, but there's no record of such an execution 193 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: in the area. Of course, that doesn't rule out the 194 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: possibility of an unrecorded lynching. If Thomas and Reynold's story 195 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: is true, one of them may be the figure who 196 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: has been spotted in the basement of the keeper's quarters. 197 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: The specter, who may be a child or an adult, 198 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: looks like an enslaved person and is sometimes seen hiding 199 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: behind the stairs. The last two spirits Booth identified were 200 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: both children, a girl named Lizzie and a boy named Joey. 201 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: They both supposedly died of yellow fever in nineteen twenty two, 202 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: but there's no documented yellow fever outbreak that year. There 203 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: was one in eighteen twenty two, but this redated the 204 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: construction of the lighthouse, so once more, it's challenging to 205 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: verify how much of this story is real. We may 206 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: never know the names of all these ghosts or how 207 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: they came to be at the Pensacola Lighthouse, but that 208 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: hasn't stopped the building from earning a reputation as one 209 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: of the most haunted lighthouses in the United States. In 210 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: his book Ghosts of Florida's Gulf Coast, Alan Brown described 211 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: a woman who's been seen walking along the catwalk at 212 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: the top. When the beacon turns its brilliant light on her, 213 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: it shines straight through as though she's transparent. Guests have 214 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: also seen a child and a kind elderly woman roaming 215 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: through the tower, and some visitors say they've spotted the 216 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: original lighthouse keeper and his wife, Jeremiah and Mikayla Ingraham, 217 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: And concerningly, some spectral encounters have a threatening edge to them. Earlier, 218 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: I mentioned a renovation that happened in the early nineteen nineties, 219 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: which resulted in the bloodstains on the bedroom floor being uncovered. 220 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: During that same project, a pair of workers found a 221 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: coil of rope encircling some water pipes. As Alan Brown 222 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: wrote in Ghosts of Florida's Gulf Coast, the workers tried 223 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: to remove the rope, but hadn't finished. When their shift ended. 224 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: They left a job partially done, presumably intending to resume 225 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: the next day. Instead, they returned in the morning to 226 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: find the rope wasn't on the pipes anymore. It had 227 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: been suspended from a light fixture in the shape of 228 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: a noose. Now as to whether this was intended as 229 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: a warning, a threat, or a spectral prank is hard 230 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: to say, but we can learn more about the spirits 231 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: of the Pensacola Lighthouse by talking to people who have 232 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: investigated it. I'm one of those folks, and so is 233 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: my next guest, mister Adam Berry. All right, so I 234 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: am now joined by almost a series regular here on 235 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: Haunted Road, mister Adam Berry. Welcome to the program, mister Berry. 236 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: Right, and you're the best to interview, so Amy, tell 237 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: me about your experiences at Lightouse. 238 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: It's so funny because when I was looking for someone 239 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: to interview about the Pensacola Lighthouse. I actually had a 240 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: lot of trouble because it's on a military base, and 241 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: so it's not really a place that people get to 242 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: investigate very often. Like it was actually a really big 243 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: deal that we got to investigate there, and so like 244 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: I found one person who had investigated, but it had 245 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: been like, you know, fifteen years ago, and I was like, wow, 246 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: I know Adam and I investigated it together fairly recently 247 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and I had investigated it even 248 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: before that in two thousand and nine with ghost Hunters. 249 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: So it turns out I'm the person who I know 250 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: who's investigated it more than anyone. Actually, what's really fun. 251 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: So I remember when we went back in twenty twenty two, 252 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: I thought this was all going to happen again. But 253 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: the first time we went there to investigate with ghost Hunters, 254 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: it was a way more secure of a location when 255 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: we investigated it in two thousand and nine with Ghosts. 256 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to the base since then, 257 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: but I remember like telling everybody when we went back, 258 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: when we go back now, I just want you to 259 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: know they're going to go through everything. They're very like 260 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: security is tight, because in two thousand and nine they 261 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: literally went through all of our gear that we had 262 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: to open all of our cases. They took dogs that 263 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: went through all, like all the cars, they had mirrors 264 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: where they looked under the vehicles. And when we went 265 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty two, none of that happened. Like, 266 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: I don't even think they checked our ID when we 267 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: went in. 268 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember like driving into it and being like, oh, 269 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: we're on a military base. But then it was much 270 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: It was definitely not as secure as I would have 271 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: thought it was going to be. But I and I 272 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: don't know if there's I think there's a reason. It's 273 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: got to be a reason. 274 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: I think maybe it's just more open now or something. 275 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: It's more open to the public. But yeah, it was 276 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: just way more secure when we first went there. But regardless, 277 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: it's a really cool place. You and I have investigated 278 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: many lighthouses together. The one thing about this lighthouse that 279 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: I talked about in the history a little bit is 280 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: that there's really not a lot of verifiable history. There's 281 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: a lot of like lore. 282 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: You know. 283 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: We're like when we went to Saint Augustine, you know, 284 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: there were in fact, children who died there and there's 285 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: a record of that, and like here they see the 286 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: ghosts of children, but there's zero record of that happening. 287 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: So but that doesn't mean people aren't experiencing it, of course. 288 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it looks like what's crazy to me 289 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: is it looks a lot like Saint Augustine Lighthouse. You know, 290 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: it's almost like a sister or a cousin, And so 291 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: when you pull up to it, you're like, oh, this 292 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: is going to be really creepy, Like there's got to 293 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: be something to it. And of course, you know, lighthouses 294 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 2: in general have really great history, a lot have spooky history, 295 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: but it was the only thing I could compare it 296 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: to when driving up and seeing it for the first time. Well. 297 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but because we have done 298 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: so many lighthouses, sometimes they kind of like meld into 299 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: my memory and I'm like, was that at this lighthouse 300 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: or was that at light this lighthouse? But I do 301 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: remember distinctly some of the things I experienced at Pensacola 302 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: in particular, were definitely footsteps that lighthouse keeper had to 303 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: go up and down those stairs every two hours, twenty 304 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: four hours a day, right, so the original keeper there, 305 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: and so I feel like he is still very much there, 306 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: like I just yeah, or at least that that presence, 307 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine he just never got a full 308 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: night's sleep, like I could not, Like he just had 309 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: to get up every two hours and walk all the 310 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: way up those stairs, yeah, and check on that light 311 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: and come all the way back down. 312 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. It makes sense with buckets of oil, like buckets 313 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: of heavy oil. And here's what's here's the craziest thing. 314 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: And those of you who have never investigated a lighthous before, 315 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: wear really good sturdy shoes, especially if it's like wet 316 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: outside and like humid inside the lighthouse. Because this lighthouse, y'all, 317 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: I've never, like I've climbed to the top of a 318 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: lot of things. But when I tried to climb to 319 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: the top of this lighthouse with Dave or with you specifically, 320 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: and with Dave, I was wearing converse and these metal 321 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 2: stairs go all the way up and there's like a handle, 322 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: but like it was slippery. So the higher that I got, 323 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: the more nervous I got, and on my foot kept slipping, 324 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: and I was like, this is an absolute no for me, 325 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: Like I I had to. I sat down. It was like, Nope, 326 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: not going any further. I'm just not going to go. 327 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: I felt like a terrible friend because you were so mortified, 328 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: Like you were legitimately just probably the most terrified I've 329 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: ever seen you. 330 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's heights. 331 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: You were so afraid of flying, flying, you were so 332 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: afraid of falling down those stairs, and like it was slippery, 333 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: like it was just the condensation and everything, like it 334 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: was dangerously slippery. And it's so it's one hundred and 335 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: seventy seven steps if I remember correct, yes, So like 336 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: it was like if you fall, it's certain death or 337 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: at least, and. 338 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: It's gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt because the stairs are metal, 339 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: so you might like you'll start to roll, but like 340 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: it is going to hurt. And I had just I 341 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: think it was my birthday too, and I was like 342 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 2: I want to live to another year. Okay, So I 343 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: was like I am all set with going any higher 344 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: in this lighthouse. But I do remember like once we 345 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: got settled right, and once I like wrapped my arm 346 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: around the railing so that I would not fall. I 347 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: remember like Dave and I were investigating and we hurt. Oh, Cheato. 348 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: See now see Cheetoh's going to talk about it. He's 349 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: barking in the background. 350 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: Okay. 351 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: Dave and I were investigating once we got settled, and 352 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: we heard a very strange sound coming from the bottom 353 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: of the lighthouse and I couldn't it was like a 354 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: voice or something. It sounded mechanical, you know sometimes dissembodied 355 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: voices have that weird like have that weird like mechanical sound. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 356 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: it's like a weird thing. And that's what it sounded like. 357 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: And we were both like that, it's very weird. And 358 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 2: you know, it took a soft guard, but it did 359 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 2: sound like a man, like it could have been a man, 360 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: maybe the light keeper. 361 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: I actually remember that happening. I don't know if they 362 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: showed it on the show, but I know you guys, 363 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: you guys radioed over like what is happening? Is someone outside? 364 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: And like, I want to check there was no one 365 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: out there. The door was closed. 366 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 367 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: And Tango's very hard on experiences too, Like he's one 368 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: of those people where like he's you know, he's very 369 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: very hard on evidence. And he was completely like, I 370 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on here, and that's always weird 371 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: because when you're in the lighthouse, it's just you and 372 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: the like your camera operator whoever, you know, there's three 373 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: of you, like, and it's very clear to tell like 374 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: a sound is coming from somewhere else because the way 375 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: like it's like literally one big hollow tube and so, 376 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: which it can play tricks on you, but not in 377 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: that sense at all. And so and then there's also 378 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: like the keepers quarters are supposedly haunted, and so I 379 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: know that, like Britt and I Brit Griffith who used 380 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: to be on GH. So the first time I investigated there, 381 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: that was when Steve and Dave were doing Ghost Hunters Academy. 382 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: I think it was the first season, and so it 383 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: was me and Britt investigating, and I know we had 384 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: separated in the keeper's quarters and we were like really 385 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: far away from each other, basically trying to see if 386 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: we could see shadows between us because that's one of 387 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: the most kind of famous things that happened there. And 388 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: I know we heard a lot of unexplained noises in 389 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: that area. I just feel like it's just not investigated 390 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: that often, Like it's one of those spots that whatever 391 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: spirits are there, they're not having investigators coming in talking 392 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: to them very often, which makes me wonder like if 393 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: that affects the activity at all. 394 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: You know, I think so, because if you think about 395 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: a lightkeeper, like any lightkeeper, and you know, the ghost 396 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: associated with keeping a light, like they have a job 397 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: to do. It's almost like we I find that sometimes 398 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: you interact with spirits there that are still doing that job, 399 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: and so you come in and start asking them questions 400 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: and they can get really annoyed. They're like, look, I'm busy, 401 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 2: I got to make sure the light is lit. I 402 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: got to you know, keep doing this job that I 403 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: am supposed to do. It's like it's like a watchman, 404 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: like their watch is never over. 405 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: In a way, it's not. And I actually feel like 406 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: that's why so many lighthouses are that haunted. I feel 407 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: like there was this very diligent sense of duty, and 408 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: the routine portion of it is so in like it's 409 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: so like ingrained in that location. Like there's probably not 410 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: many jobs that just required complete and total routine like that. 411 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: You know, you have to do things at a certain time. 412 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: There's certain signals that you have to give at the 413 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: exact right moments. If the weather starts to turn a 414 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: certain way, you have to change, like you know the 415 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: pattern of the light, and like it just and now 416 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: it's like it's so routine that it was actually fairly 417 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: easy for humans to automate that eventually, which really kind 418 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: of got rid of the whole idea of a lighthouse keeper, 419 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: which is really depressing and sad to me because I 420 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: think it was probably one of its just kind of 421 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: one of the most I don't want to say, just 422 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: kind of an whol old school job, like you're the 423 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: keeper of the light. You're keeping this going, and you're 424 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: just like ensuring that chips don't crash, Like is there 425 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: anything more important than that? And now we've just given 426 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: that to machines. 427 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: I know, don't mess up, Like, don't mess up machines. 428 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: We I was going to say that, I mean, like 429 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 2: it also makes it easier for us to sort of 430 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: I guess trigger activity, if that makes sense, Like you know, 431 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 2: when we did the lighthouse in Newport, right, like we 432 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: were able to play cannon fire because the canon at 433 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 2: the fort would trigger you know, when the person would 434 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: go up and light the light for the night. Right. 435 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: So I think there's things, there's routines. I think there's 436 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 2: a set of rules and those are easily explored by 437 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: investigators to you know, to trigger activity. I think that that's. 438 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: A plus, now do you remember? And I think so too, like, 439 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: because all you have to do is kind of threaten 440 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: that routine and that can sometimes make things happen. Not 441 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: that I like to provoke, but like, there's that's one 442 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: instance where maybe a little bit of like, oh, we 443 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: might be getting off kilter here, right, instigate some activity. 444 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you remember this, but one 445 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: of the stories there, and it's really hard. I'm surprised 446 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: no one has come in and tried to really debunk them. 447 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: But I saw it, and I don't remember if you 448 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: saw it. But so supposedly there's a large blood stain 449 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: in the keeper's quarters that cannot be cleaned. Yes, and 450 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: so it was, it was, it was covered up until 451 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: the mid nineties and then they were like, Rea, there 452 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: was linoleum over it, and so then they tore up 453 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: linoleum and they found the hardwood floors beneath and the 454 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: stain is still there and they have not been able 455 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: to determine, like they're just like, yep, it's blood, and 456 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: so part of me is just like, why can't we 457 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: test it? I really want to know, Like all you 458 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: need is like a cadaver dog or like some I mean, 459 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: I just I don't know why, like they hang under 460 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: that story and don't try to prove whether it's real 461 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: or not. 462 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: We had black lights. I think you and I walked 463 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: around with some black lights to like see if we 464 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 2: could see the stain at one. 465 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: Point, Yeah, and well you can see it. Yeah, it's 466 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: it's there. I just don't know how it's so easy 467 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: to look at it and just say, yep, it's blood, 468 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a really big state and there's 469 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: some spattered. 470 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we did ask for like a testing kit, 471 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: but they and I and I'm you know when usually 472 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: so when we join other like Kindred Spirits, like joining 473 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: another show, we come up with these wild and crazy 474 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: ideas and we're usually just like, hey, can you get 475 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: us like a blood testing kit please? And so I 476 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 2: think they tried, but the kit just didn't work. It 477 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: wasn't like the right correct kit. Yeah, but I remember 478 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: they did go get something and they really tried to 479 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: see if we could get some like a kit to 480 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 2: test that that would. 481 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: I know, I remember they brought me in for like 482 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: the historical scene and that, you know, and that's one 483 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: of those things like you know, me, I do on 484 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: my own research. And so I walked in and they 485 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: I was like, well, all this happened, and they're like, 486 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: but we're focusing on this, and I was like, but 487 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: this happened. Yeah, But I was like, I was like, 488 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: don't you know, like on Kindred, I like find something 489 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: really crazy no one knew about, and then it changes 490 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: the direction of the entire case and they're like. 491 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: No, like no, we're good. I'm like, Okay. 492 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: That's why it's always fun to walk in to other 493 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: cases because the pressure. 494 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: Is not there exactly exactly. We just do it. We 495 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: do our own thing and you know, finda find some 496 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: really good stuff. And I think the coolest thing about 497 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: investigating lighthouses, or at least the ones that we've investigated, 498 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: especially the Pensacola Lighthouse, is the access that we get 499 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 2: when we're there, Like, you know, it's these people, this 500 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 2: is a historic monument. It stood for you know, over 501 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: one hundred years, and they trust us to go into 502 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: these spaces and to explore in the dark, to try 503 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: to connect with the spirits and I think we're very 504 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: lucky that we get to do that kind of thing 505 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: because mostly, you know, it's tours. You see it during 506 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: the day, there's ropes everywhere. But when we get to 507 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: do these kind of things, those ropes come down, and 508 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: so you we immerse ourselves in this environment and we 509 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: get to go back back in time for a brief 510 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: moment and really explore what it might be like to 511 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: you know, live there during like a big hurricane or 512 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: when it was really active. And I think that's the 513 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: best part. 514 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: Well, I try to I try to tell groups this 515 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: a lot. So like with Pentacola Lighthouse, like it's on 516 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: a base, and like we've done other places that are 517 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, connected to like military or law enforcement or 518 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: like you need certain security clearances to do and they're 519 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: not going to trust any team with that. And that's 520 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: why I think it's really important, like when you're investigating 521 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: the paranormal, to kind of maintain that level of integrity 522 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: where places like that will feel good about bringing you 523 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: in because they know that you're going to do justice 524 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: to the history and they know you're going to do 525 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: justice to the activity and to their ghosts, and that's important. 526 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: I think that's why we get called into so many 527 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, like we get called into libraries, ge get 528 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: called into schools, we get called obviously into military bases. 529 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: And I don't think that happens for a lot of 530 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: other paranormal shows, but I think paranormal teams in particular, 531 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: you can formulate that kind of reputation as a team 532 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: and get called into those places. You don't need a 533 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: TV show to do it. So that's one of the 534 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: many reasons why we tried to kind of be on 535 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: the level at all times. 536 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, and I think, you know, our reputation precedes us. 537 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: Thank god. Yeah. God. 538 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: Well, so they've okay, so I know they've seen an 539 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: apparition of a woman there, which they say is that 540 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: girl who died. She didn't actually I don't believe she 541 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: died on the property, or she might have died on 542 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: the property, but she had a very strong connection to it, 543 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: like she specifically came back to die there. Basically, she 544 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: gave birth to her baby and then never they say, 545 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: never quite recovered from that, and then five months later 546 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: died on the property. And so she's one of the 547 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: only like kind of deaths there. There was a keeper 548 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: who died while they were still serving as a lighthouse keeper. 549 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: So now there's this I weren't going by. You know, 550 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: we're waving way back away from the road. It's very 551 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: loud here today. I wanted to do this in person, 552 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: but A we never had a chance, and. 553 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: B, yeah, it was busy this weekend. 554 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: I did not have a second microphone to do it. 555 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: So okay, so let me get back to that kind 556 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: of shot there. I forgot where I was showing with it. 557 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: So they have seen this apparition of a woman that 558 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: might have been connected to that death. But like, I 559 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: did not see anything like that. I didn't really see 560 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: anything visual. Definitely heard sounds like you had that crazy 561 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: sound in the lighthouse. I absolutely heard footsteps, and so 562 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: there were definitely things going on, but I didn't get 563 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: the vibe that it was something like either a aggressive 564 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: or b like really trying to get anyone's attention. Like 565 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: it just seemed very much like it just sort of existed. 566 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I agree. I think it was almost 567 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: like again they were going about their business. They were 568 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: sort of you know, keeping the light, watching what we 569 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: were doing closely to be like, who are these people 570 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: and why are they in the space, but it was 571 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: almost like they were just going they were doing their thing, 572 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: and we were sort of there witnessing them continuing the 573 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: tradition of the lighthouse, and it didn't feel like it 574 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: didn't feel really aggressive or scary by any means. 575 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: Now, one of the weird things that I don't think 576 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: we talked about much when we went there with gh 577 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: is that during the building of the lighthouse and just 578 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: like kind of over the years, it kept being affected 579 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: by like weird natural disasters, like it was struck by 580 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: lightning at one point. But the weirdest one, which I 581 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: wanted to tell you because I wanted to see how 582 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: you feel about it, is that while they were building it, 583 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: there was this like freak occurrence where all of these 584 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: snakes like these I think they were even poisonous snakes 585 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: like traveled across the water and all came and started 586 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: nesting in the construction site and so like thousands of them, 587 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: so as they were trying to like build, they would 588 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: like fall down on the workers. 589 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: And no, no, that is Satan, that is a demonic 590 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: entity that is get out of my back. Nobody needs snakes. 591 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: Snakes and investigation. That's like w' that's terrible. 592 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: I know, I was just envisioning it, like these poor 593 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: people like trying to build and go about their day 594 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: and it's like infested with snakes. And it was just 595 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: like some weird fluke enough that like the newspaper reported 596 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: on it that all of these snakes had just come 597 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: up out of the water and made their home in 598 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: the construction zone where all of these men were working. 599 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: See, I don't know, I don't know, that's so weird. 600 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it's probably just a coincidence and not paranormal, 601 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: But like back then, I feel like or at any point, 602 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: you could take that as a sign as an omen 603 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: to be like do not like stop doing what you're doing, 604 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like it could just throw 605 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: people off pretty bad. 606 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: Well, that was it. That was one of the many 607 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: things like that where people were like is this place cursed? 608 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: Like these kinds of things keep happening here, Like what's 609 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: going on? So I just ooh, it just gave me. Oh, 610 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: it just kind of made me feel like, you know, 611 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: I got the like gum. 612 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 2: Would you rather have? Like would you rather have like that? 613 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: Or like a bunch of mice and rats? Oh? 614 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: Probably the snakes, because mice and rats can give you diseases. 615 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 2: Well, snakes can bite you. 616 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but only when provoked, that's true. 617 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: Just leave them alone. Rats just come out of nowhere 618 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 2: and take you away. 619 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: I can like smell one mouse. I can't even imagine 620 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: like an infestation like. 621 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: Now, especially when they die in the wall and you 622 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 2: can't find them. You're like, well there. 623 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: Was that, and thank god. But I smelling moss from 624 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: a mile away. It's my little my weird nose super grows. 625 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: I know. 626 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: That's that's my other parent. That's actually I actually sniff 627 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: out ghosts. I don't know if you knew this. That's 628 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: why I have so many experiences. I can smell ghosts too. 629 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, your fallback, your fallback in your in your life 630 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: should be like wrote it, like you know, you go 631 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: in and like track, yep, you got mice. 632 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: You got that's my plan B or ghost sniffer. I'm 633 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: going to write a book called ghost Sniffer Ghosts. 634 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you should make Oh that's what you. Fragrance is 635 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: next fragrance, Just two fragrances. 636 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: Okay, and this is usually what that's our cue that 637 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: we're done speaking. We have we have done this ran it. 638 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: But before we go, what do you want? What do 639 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: you want to talk? I know your book is out 640 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: and like a release now going strong? What else? What 641 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: else is going on in the world of Adam Barry 642 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: that the world needs? 643 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well, the book is out, you can 644 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 2: buy it wherever books are sold. And what else is happening? Well, 645 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 2: I don't know when is this air? 646 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: This will be probably in December, actually December. 647 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we're you know, doing I have a book 648 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: signing with Steve Gonzolvez in December, and I Ben and 649 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 2: I are doing a virtual cocktail party in December that 650 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: people can join. You know, it's very like staying at 651 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 2: home making bread and suits and getting off fat and sassy. 652 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: I love doing these a few weeks in advance because 653 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: it's like we're seeing into the future. So let's envision 654 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: what we'll be doing in December. I envision I will 655 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: be looking at my beautiful Christmas tree and eating a 656 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: lot of cookies and snuggling up and hopefully it will 657 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: be snowing, because it's only okay, if it snows before Christmas, 658 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: after is terrible. All right, So well, thank you, mister Barry. 659 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking the time, and I're welcome. 660 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure I will see you very soon. But good 661 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: luck with everything. And yeah, I guess that's it. I 662 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: guess we need to get back. Let's go to the 663 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: pensacle A lighthouse right now, because I guarantee it's warmer there. 664 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go now, Okay. 665 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: All right bye. Throughout history, lighthouses have served two purposes. 666 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: They keep ships safe and warn them of danger. Pensacola 667 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: and its lighthouse have long histories full of tragedy and 668 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: ominous portents. Between the hurricane and the venomous snakes and 669 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: the lightning strikes, the structure seems almost synonymous with disaster. 670 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: If there's any lesson to take from this haunted tower 671 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: and the quarters attached, perhaps it's that we should all 672 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: take care. Like a ship navigating through dark water, you 673 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: can never know for sure what risk lies ahead. I'm 674 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: Amy Brunei and this was haunted road. Are you tired 675 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: of the same old, vague Haitian destinations and cookie cutter experiences? 676 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: Do you crave a sense of mystery, wonder and adventure 677 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: that can't be found in ordinary travel brochures? Do you 678 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: listen to this podcast and think I'd like to visit 679 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: that spooky place. Well, that's why I started Strange Escapes, 680 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: a paranormal based travel company that takes you to some 681 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: of the most haunted locations in the world. Frankly, it's 682 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: my excuse to combine all of my favorite things, which 683 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: is ghosts, beautiful hotels, food and wine, and other weirdos 684 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: like me. 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