Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to it could happen here. This is part
Speaker 1: two of I guess two part series about Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 1: Finally we're getting in a Dallas, Texas resident to refute
Speaker 1: some of this this slander. Sure, my, my, my flawless hometown.
Speaker 1: Uh briefly host to Bernie Sanders when he had to
Speaker 1: take care of something. I've I've spent a few summers
Speaker 1: in Dallas. I've I've been around it. Unfortunate, I've been
Speaker 1: around the DFW area. I wouldn't recommend spending summers in Dallas.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, I wouldn't recommend spending winters in
Speaker 1: Dallas either. There's a couple of weeks in spring that
Speaker 1: it's tolerable to be in Dallas. Try to make it.
Speaker 1: Then it occurs to me that we should ask Garsey,
Speaker 1: where were you when they killed JFK. I was, I'm Garrison,
Speaker 1: I was. I was born in the twenty first century.
Speaker 1: What have you ever ordered? A man liquor Carcano rifle
Speaker 1: in the back of American Rifleman magazine. Okay, let's let's
Speaker 1: open by by first briefly talking about the thirty one
Speaker 1: Dorky asked neo Nazis, who gotta rest in Idaho. We're
Speaker 1: planning and you want to talk about it, That's right,
Speaker 1: That is exactly why we've already done the episode. But
Speaker 1: I'm always down to talk about this. I know we
Speaker 1: just did an episode talking about it, but I wasn't
Speaker 1: on that one. So I have a few paragraphs on
Speaker 1: how it relates to today's topic of Christian fascist violence.
Speaker 1: I just want to state that you and I were
Speaker 1: both hanging out at a party when we got the
Speaker 1: news about that, and it is the hardest I have
Speaker 1: ever seen you laugh for like four hours. So and hey,
Speaker 1: like Patriot Fronts based on a Texas so that that
Speaker 1: also there is a degree of relevance here, yes to
Speaker 1: the bulk of our of our topic today. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty funny because the groups fashions all
Speaker 1: dressed in the same outfit. It's almost incomprehensibly trade and sauna,
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't pass out well crammed into a hot,
Speaker 1: sweaty U haul truck driving from all around the country
Speaker 1: to cord relate the Idaho so that they can march
Speaker 1: around with flags and shields to yell at gay and transcits.
Speaker 1: And you know what they did Instead, they got filled
Speaker 1: over and setain a ditch while getting their little cladhood
Speaker 1: masks taken off, and spent the rest of a day
Speaker 1: to Idaho jail. And I'll go talxed. It's really funny,
Speaker 1: especially since again their best case scenario was spending a
Speaker 1: day free in quarterlin Ida. I know, and it's so yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be like, you can be against cops in the
Speaker 1: carstral system while still recognizing how innately and hilarious superious,
Speaker 1: like it's it's fine when cops and groups like Patriot
Speaker 1: Front beef that's generally a win win for me. I'm
Speaker 1: not cheering on police tactics. It's just it's just recognizing
Speaker 1: that one of my enemies temporarily making another of my
Speaker 1: enemies life's harder is pretty funny. It's really funny. It's
Speaker 1: it's the same reason that we don't condemn police violence
Speaker 1: when a cop shoots another cop like exactly like like's
Speaker 1: and like, based on these charges, I doubt any of
Speaker 1: these guys, in particular, we'll go to prison for long
Speaker 1: enough to form like any like dangerous connections with other
Speaker 1: incarcert and people. Well, I'm sure there's a couple of
Speaker 1: dudes in there that if you know, they were to
Speaker 1: go to a serious prison, could make meaningful inroads with
Speaker 1: the Nazis there. But man, most of those dudes Area
Speaker 1: Nations guys are just kind of like they're not going
Speaker 1: to consider comrades like the the Yeah, it's yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think the Patroon Front, Idaho situation seems like
Speaker 1: it will mostly just be inconvenience and national embarrassment for them,
Speaker 1: And I think time, I think we can we can
Speaker 1: let this one just be as funny as it is,
Speaker 1: considering there was thirty less Nazis there to intimidate and
Speaker 1: attack people at pride Um and Patriot Front maybe now
Speaker 1: less willing to pull stunts like this in the future. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've thought about this a lot, and I just can't
Speaker 1: see anyways in which what has happened could really be
Speaker 1: a problem. Um, it seems to just purely be funny,
Speaker 1: So just enjoy it. Yeah, look, look this this is
Speaker 1: what happens when you appropriate lesbian culture. You get arrested. Actually,
Speaker 1: not all that different from what Garrison was saying immediately
Speaker 1: after the arrest, That is true. I made a lot
Speaker 1: of jokes about how Patriot Front looks pretty pretty gay
Speaker 1: while getting handcuffed. Get the shine the cancel radar, get
Speaker 1: the cancelometer out. We're canceling Garrison. Um. Anyway, let's let's
Speaker 1: continue with this episode. So here is some other fun
Speaker 1: facts about about the whole Idaho thing. So to a
Speaker 1: the Patriot Front members who were crammed into that U
Speaker 1: haul last weekend. We're connected to a church helmed by
Speaker 1: former Washington state Representative Matt Shay who's also associated with
Speaker 1: the Bundees, the Oath Keepers and leads the church at
Speaker 1: Planned Parenthood. Uh. He has advocated like civil war if
Speaker 1: abortion and seem sex marriage aren't stopped, to kill all
Speaker 1: the men in left wing cities, all that good stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And he was also present at the protesting cort alane
Speaker 1: at the Pride event this past weekend. And we can
Speaker 1: we can draw like this direct line from the surge
Speaker 1: of groomer and anti drag propaganda to neo Nazis deciding
Speaker 1: to organize and travel across straight lines to threaten people
Speaker 1: in a Pride event in the days leading up to
Speaker 1: the event. Chaia right check the woman behind the Limbs
Speaker 1: of TikTok account repeatedly highlighted it weaponizing pearl clutching Satanic panic.
Speaker 1: In right Check's first post about the Pride event, it
Speaker 1: was about how the Satanic Temple was promoting the event.
Speaker 1: In an Adelite tweet by someone claiming to represent local Satanists.
Speaker 1: On seventh, Lips of TikTok posted quote, family friendly drag
Speaker 1: dance party being promoted by the Satanic Temple in Idaho.
Speaker 1: We are living in hell, which is a nice and
Speaker 1: I slip un there that I can't quite tell if
Speaker 1: that was intentional or unintentional about Satanic Temple and living
Speaker 1: in hell. Anyway, I thought that was funny. Um Dave Riley,
Speaker 1: a white supremacist who attended the deadly Unite the Right
Speaker 1: rally and Charlottesville who also organized with Identity Europa a
Speaker 1: few years back. He he actively solicited lives of TikTok
Speaker 1: to draw attention to the Pride event and sought her
Speaker 1: help in trying to like get publicity for the protests
Speaker 1: against it, quoting the SPLC hate Watch quote. The Idaho
Speaker 1: Tribune also due attention to it. Idaho Tribune, far from
Speaker 1: a real newspaper, is to obscure junkan news publication that
Speaker 1: on multiple occasions has promoted Riley's political activism. Anti racist
Speaker 1: activists also tipped hate Watch off to infrastructural overlap between
Speaker 1: a website that promotes Riley by name and Idaho Tribune.
Speaker 1: Hey Watch reviewed the source code for Dave Riley's website
Speaker 1: and the Idaho Tribune site and confirmed that the two
Speaker 1: sites share graphics from the same web hosting account, meaning
Speaker 1: that they are likely controlled by the same person unquote.
Speaker 1: And then on June nine, Lips of TikTok posted screenshots
Speaker 1: taken from the Idaho Tribune about the Satanic temple and
Speaker 1: the quarterly and Pride event, boosting content from that white
Speaker 1: supremacist linked to website to her one point two million followers.
Speaker 1: Every single one of these figures using fascist rhetoric at
Speaker 1: utilizing stochastic methods, including Chia Wright check, her financial backer
Speaker 1: Seth Dylan, and people like Tucker Carlson are all responsible
Speaker 1: for inciting events like this. Tucker led his show last
Speaker 1: week by using a Nazi reference when referring to a
Speaker 1: Pride event in Dallas in terms of stuff that's like
Speaker 1: outside of you know, conservative states like idahoor Texas. Late
Speaker 1: last month, right Check as Lips of TikTok Target did
Speaker 1: a Bay Area drag Queen storytime event, which is exactly
Speaker 1: what it sounds like. It's drag queen's reading children's books
Speaker 1: to kids in a public library. And then on June twelve,
Speaker 1: it was stormed by a group of around ten men
Speaker 1: dressed in proud boy attire and shirts that read kill
Speaker 1: your local pedophile. They threatened attendees while shouting homophobic and
Speaker 1: transphobic slurs, terrifying a bunch of kids who had come
Speaker 1: to hear queens read stories. So how did this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff and like, how did this rhetoric spread so quickly?
Speaker 1: Like how did this grumar stuff get so volatile so quickly?
Speaker 1: Just in these just in these past few months, in
Speaker 1: our War on Transpeople episodes and my Operation Privateful episodes,
Speaker 1: we discussed the history of this sort of like save
Speaker 1: the children and like pedophile rhetoric. Uh. And in my
Speaker 1: City of Hate episode earlier this week, we talked about
Speaker 1: how this wave of homophobia was able to write off
Speaker 1: the conspiracism of Pizza Gate and Q and on. And
Speaker 1: then in this episode we're gonna talk about the types
Speaker 1: of places that this extreme bigotry was able to fester
Speaker 1: this past decade and how it relates to Evangelical Christianity
Speaker 1: and Christian fascism. I'm gonna play an audio clip from
Speaker 1: a city council meeting in Arlington, Texas that happened on
Speaker 1: May twenty five. Take a listen. My name is Jonathan Joey.
Speaker 1: I'm the pastor has been as Badness Church, and I'm
Speaker 1: here today because I have church members that live in Arlington.
Speaker 1: I live only a few miles away from here, and
Speaker 1: I do business in Arlington on a weekly basis. I'm
Speaker 1: horrified and ashamed that the city has assigned promote and
Speaker 1: solicit pride in this city. Pride is nothing to be celebrated.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's an abomination. The Bible says in Proverbs
Speaker 1: chapter eight, the fear of the Lord is to hate pride,
Speaker 1: hate evil, pride and arrogancy and the evil way and
Speaker 1: the throw word mouth do I hate? According to God,
Speaker 1: we should hate pride, not celebrate it. We should humble ourselves,
Speaker 1: as virtually the whole room said that we were a
Speaker 1: nation under God in the American flag, and we were
Speaker 1: a state under God. If we're in the Texas flag,
Speaker 1: we should humble ourselves. What the Bible says, and not
Speaker 1: what the small minority here that doesn't bully would say.
Speaker 1: In June of Mayor Jeff Williams officially announced the Steps
Speaker 1: a Pride month in June for the city of Arleyton.
Speaker 1: But I don't understand why we celebrate what used to
Speaker 1: be a crime not long ago. The fact, recording to
Speaker 1: the Texas penal coach and sex respectful homosexual conduct, that
Speaker 1: person commiss an offense and he engaged in deviated sexual
Speaker 1: intercourse with another individual of the same sex. In fact,
Speaker 1: that is still on the books today, even though Lawrence
Speaker 1: versus Texas overruled that in two thousand three. But God
Speaker 1: has already ruled that murder adults, three witch graft rate,
Speaker 1: beastiality of homosexualities are crimes worthy of capital punishment. Arlington,
Speaker 1: just for context, is one of many towns in North
Speaker 1: Dallas that if you happen to have wheed on you,
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to tape it to the bottom of
Speaker 1: your balls before driving through Arlington. Thanks for that great,
Speaker 1: great weed tip from You're welcome Garrison. So that is
Speaker 1: Pastor Jonathan Shelley who lives in Grand Prairie, UM. He
Speaker 1: was there at a at an Arlington, Texas City Council meeting,
Speaker 1: casually advocating killing gay people while citing Texas is laws
Speaker 1: against homosexuality. Their church and this connected branch of Baptists
Speaker 1: that will learn more about later, have an intense record
Speaker 1: of preaching genocide against gay and trans people and also
Speaker 1: a fair amount of anti Semitism. Big big shocker there.
Speaker 1: The previous pastor at this church, which was called Steadfast
Speaker 1: Baptist Church. UM. But the previous pastor who resigned in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen due to allegations that he paid for sex workers,
Speaker 1: was involved in gambling, and had smoked marijuana. I guess
Speaker 1: he should have taped more of it to his balls.
Speaker 1: Um to Nash, he carter national attention for celebrating the
Speaker 1: Orlando Pulse gay nightclub massacre, which killed people. From the pulpit,
Speaker 1: the pastor said that God should finish the job and
Speaker 1: referred to the murdered patrons as sodomites, perverts, and pedophiles.
Speaker 1: The new pastor, John Shelley, continues this same strain of
Speaker 1: preaching violence against gay people. Uh. This next clip is
Speaker 1: from June one, right after someone died after getting hit
Speaker 1: by a truck. At a Pride parade in Florida, which
Speaker 1: we later found out was a complete accident. But I
Speaker 1: don't don't think the public knew that at the time. No,
Speaker 1: and obviously people, I mean, I think all of our
Speaker 1: assumptions was, oh god, you know this is the thing. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: here's the clip. If it's going beyond just saying you
Speaker 1: do all this week and stuff, it's saying you enjoy it,
Speaker 1: You enjoy murder, you enjoy malignity, you enjoy hating God. Look,
Speaker 1: there's only one group that enjoys that is the Pride
Speaker 1: parades going up now Street. And you know it's great
Speaker 1: when trucks accidentally go through those, you know, parades. I
Speaker 1: think only one person died, so hopefully we can hope
Speaker 1: for more in the future. You say, well, that's mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the Bible says that they're worthy of death. You say,
Speaker 1: are you sad when fags die? No, I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I hope they all die. I would love it if
Speaker 1: every fag would die right now. And you say, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what you really mean. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what I mean. I really mean it. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's a poor drummer like that's June, even a year
Speaker 1: before the big wave of groomer stuff got pushed this
Speaker 1: past spring with the help of Lives of TikTok, and
Speaker 1: that kind of shows how susceptible modern conservatism was to
Speaker 1: this resurgence of in your face homophobia. There's been people
Speaker 1: to working to like keep it here the whole time,
Speaker 1: just bubbling beneath the surface, and now it's just completely
Speaker 1: boiled over. Um. And I'm gonna say, like the rest
Speaker 1: of the episode is going to get into some pretty
Speaker 1: dark stuff. We're there's gonna be a few more clips
Speaker 1: that are pretty are pretty gross if you want to,
Speaker 1: if you want to check out, that's totally fine. After
Speaker 1: this episode, I myself, I'm going to take a little
Speaker 1: bit of a break from covering this sort of thing
Speaker 1: that's taking a little bit too much of a mental
Speaker 1: toll because it's a lot of genocide. It's it is,
Speaker 1: it's it is. It's pretty intense. Uh. If you do
Speaker 1: feel the need to leave before you go, just remember
Speaker 1: this simple phrase for keeping safe in the DFW area.
Speaker 1: Tape it to your balls, and your happiness won't be smalls.
Speaker 1: So here's another clip from June of Shelley reiterating his
Speaker 1: call for the government to execute gay people after he
Speaker 1: received some public backlash for his the previous clip that
Speaker 1: we that we used. And I personally believe that all
Speaker 1: of these sodomites, you know, people that are men with men,
Speaker 1: are pedophile because that means that they just simply are
Speaker 1: attracted to children. They're attracted to these people that are
Speaker 1: the ages of seventeen, sixteen, fifteen, even though they're grown adult.
Speaker 1: They're going after children and very young children often cases,
Speaker 1: and lessing them and hurting them. And you know, anybody
Speaker 1: that loves children, loves their family, would want this person
Speaker 1: to be executed through the proper channels. That's what I believe,
Speaker 1: That's what I teach. I'm not a violent person. So my, my, my,
Speaker 1: my kind of fear is that Shelley or someone like
Speaker 1: you know, John Doyle that we talked about in our
Speaker 1: last City of Hit episode, is not that they themselves
Speaker 1: will bring a weapon to some future pride parade or
Speaker 1: go on a rampage and assault or kill gay people, right.
Speaker 1: It's that one of their followers or one of their
Speaker 1: fans will And these types of pastors and far right
Speaker 1: media figures are intentionally leading people onto that outcome. Uh
Speaker 1: to quote Hey, Matt Meta, who's been tracking Steadfast for years, quote,
Speaker 1: Because while Shelley is celebrating murder, he's also handing his
Speaker 1: congregation a metaphorical loaded gun. And if somebody eventually uses
Speaker 1: a literal one to follow through on what they believe
Speaker 1: to be God's orders, they know that Shelley will be
Speaker 1: proud of them, even as he tells the world he
Speaker 1: has absolutely nothing to do with it. Unquote. So, under
Speaker 1: the pressure of activists, Steadfast actually got evicted from their
Speaker 1: old building in Hearst, Texas this past March for spreading
Speaker 1: their extreme anti LGBT hate and calls for violence, which
Speaker 1: was in violation of the terms of its least, which
Speaker 1: prohibited violence and threats. The church has an active gab page,
Speaker 1: which kind of tells you a little bit about the
Speaker 1: people running this sort of operation. Uh. Insteadfast publicly organized
Speaker 1: and live streamed their sermons on a very active Facebook page,
Speaker 1: which is no longer active for reasons that we will
Speaker 1: later discuss. And then during these past few months, they've
Speaker 1: relocated their church from her to a building that's part
Speaker 1: of a strip mall in Wattaga, Texas. Is that how
Speaker 1: I'm saying That's That's the thing about any town in
Speaker 1: Texas is he doesn't have It doesn't matter how you
Speaker 1: pronounce it, because they're Texans, Watauga, wat whatever, do whatever
Speaker 1: you want anyway, they're now a strip mall church. What
Speaker 1: I think is good to look for them. I mean
Speaker 1: that you're okay, I will correct you here. You're saying
Speaker 1: that like it's it's funny as opposed to just the
Speaker 1: way everything is in Texas because Texas is a giant
Speaker 1: strip mall. Yeah. I guess though. And well, John Shelley
Speaker 1: is pretty bad, right, We've we've heard a lot of
Speaker 1: bad clips of him talking about how gay people are
Speaker 1: pedophiles and how they should all be killed by the government.
Speaker 1: He's not the only guy who's Teadfast preaching violent in
Speaker 1: genocidal rhetoric. Enter Dylan Oz, formerly based out of Boise, Idaho,
Speaker 1: now preaching at Stedfast Baptist Church in Wattuga, Texas. On Sunday,
Speaker 1: June four, a Dylan us Well preaching from the pulpit,
Speaker 1: said that the quote solution for the homosexual is for
Speaker 1: the government to execute every single gay person. Here's here
Speaker 1: is here the c of him that what does God
Speaker 1: say is the answer is the solution for the homosexual
Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty two, here in the New Testament,
Speaker 1: here in the Book of Romans, that they are worthy
Speaker 1: of death. These people should be put to death. Every
Speaker 1: single homosexual in our country should be charged with the
Speaker 1: crime the abomination of homosexuality that they have. They should
Speaker 1: be convicted in a lawful trial. They should be sentenced
Speaker 1: with death. They should be lined up against the wall
Speaker 1: and shot in the back of the head. That's what
Speaker 1: God teaches. That's what the Bible says. You don't like it,
Speaker 1: you don't like God's work, because that is what God says.
Speaker 1: I don't think that the Bible says anything about guns. Actually, Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's been a while since I read the
Speaker 1: King James version that sad Fast exclusively uses. So maybe
Speaker 1: it's like a translation thing, but I don't I don't
Speaker 1: remember anything about shooting or bullets r guns and inside
Speaker 1: my Bible. Um. But speaking of translation things, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go on a little theology right here about quote unquote
Speaker 1: lying with man or lying with men um and how
Speaker 1: scholars actually believe if you look at the original Biblical
Speaker 1: texts not the crap like the King James version and
Speaker 1: the nonsense based off that horrible translation, but the chapters
Speaker 1: where people pull stuff supposedly condemning men for laying with
Speaker 1: men and quote unquote homosexuality, which is obviously like a
Speaker 1: very modern word, does not belong in a text as
Speaker 1: old at the Bible, like they just worre didn't that
Speaker 1: wor didn't exist yet. Um, but those passages would probably
Speaker 1: more accurately translate to condemning adult men who rape young boys. Uh.
Speaker 1: And even if they didn't, even if it was about
Speaker 1: adult men with other adult men. I don't fucking care,
Speaker 1: and neither should most Christians, because Christians are not following
Speaker 1: all of the laws of Leviticus, nor should they. Like
Speaker 1: that ship was for Israelites thousands of years ago to
Speaker 1: make their culture distinct from other surrounding nations, like Christians
Speaker 1: aren't railing against the use of mixed fabric for Christ's sake.
Speaker 1: I am. There's there's a lot of there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. Believe in eating shrimp, But I think if
Speaker 1: you use mixed fabrics, you should be executed. You should
Speaker 1: be well shot in the back of the head. That's
Speaker 1: the mainly thing that anyone using mixed fabrics death penalty instantly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so like, obviously there's not these churches preaching against mixed fabric.
Speaker 1: Here's here's Christian preacher Dylanas again justifying his calls for
Speaker 1: the execution of gay people by falsely claiming, obviously that
Speaker 1: all homosexuals are pedophiles. Here's the thing, here's why reprobates.
Speaker 1: Here's why homosexuals are so dangerous to society. They're not
Speaker 1: like other sinners in the sense that every single day
Speaker 1: that they are alive, they're being filled with more and
Speaker 1: more and more unrighteousness. That is a scary thing. You
Speaker 1: want to know why we say that all homosexuals are pedophiles,
Speaker 1: And let me make that very clear. All homosexuals are pedophiles.
Speaker 1: And people say, well, what about all the straight people
Speaker 1: that molest children? There faces, I don't care what you
Speaker 1: call them. If if a person is with a child,
Speaker 1: you're fact, you're reprobated, your sodomite. I don't care what
Speaker 1: kind of classifications our government wants to give them. All
Speaker 1: homosexuals are pedophiles. Now here's the thing. Here's here's what
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying that every single homosexual
Speaker 1: that's alive right now has committed that act with a
Speaker 1: child already, because there it could be that they haven't
Speaker 1: had the opportunity yet and they will at some point
Speaker 1: later in their life. This is why we need to
Speaker 1: put these people to death through the proper channels of
Speaker 1: the government, because the Bible says that they are being filled.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Yes, maybe not every single homosexual
Speaker 1: has been with a child yet, but what about tomorrow
Speaker 1: when they're filled with a more righteousness. What about in
Speaker 1: a week from now when they're a little filled with
Speaker 1: a little more righteousness. What about twenty years from now?
Speaker 1: What are they going to be like? You look up
Speaker 1: the statistics on the Sodomites that abused children there with
Speaker 1: so many children and will make you throw up disgusting.
Speaker 1: These people are not normal. They're not your average every
Speaker 1: day centers. They're what the Bible calls reverbates. They're rejected
Speaker 1: by God. They have no hope of salvation. So in
Speaker 1: one John Shelley with Steadfast Baptist Church and with the
Speaker 1: help of a network of aggressively homopoblic churches, made a
Speaker 1: two hour quote unquote documentary about how to quote protect
Speaker 1: your children called and it's the title is called the
Speaker 1: Sodomite Deception. See all right, look's going to look if
Speaker 1: we're going to do this thing where there's licenses for
Speaker 1: people to buy guns, can we have there be a
Speaker 1: license to make a documentary? Can we marry too? So
Speaker 1: the quote unquote Sodomite Deception claims to expose how the
Speaker 1: l g b t Q community is contributing to the
Speaker 1: collapse of modern society, which I mean based Um. The
Speaker 1: trailer opens with a real banger. Most Americans are repelled
Speaker 1: by the mere notion of homosexuality. The CBS News survey
Speaker 1: shows that two out of three Americans look upon homosexuals
Speaker 1: we've discussed discomfort or fear. One out of ten says hatred.
Speaker 1: The documentary celebrates historical laws that criminalized homosexuality and criticizes
Speaker 1: more recent laws that expand lgbt Q rights. In the film,
Speaker 1: shall He advocates for the death penalty to be used
Speaker 1: on the LGBTQ community and uses, you know, many many
Speaker 1: slurs across this whole thing, all of all of them
Speaker 1: use all kinds of sluries, as I'm sure we've heard
Speaker 1: this past episode. Uh, the pastors of other churches part
Speaker 1: of the New Independent Fundamental Baptist movement, also featured in
Speaker 1: the documentary. Here's a collection of said pastors screaming in
Speaker 1: the trailer for the Sun of My Deception. Oh, thank you, Garrison,
Speaker 1: thank you for playing us a trailer of people screaming.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. Starting off with Shelley saying, quote,
Speaker 1: why aren't all these Baptists standing up and saying, these
Speaker 1: freaks should go back to Hell, should go back in
Speaker 1: the closet, put a bullet in your head? Why are
Speaker 1: they saying it? Because some of the some of what
Speaker 1: he says his heart to hear. So I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that for you guys, so you know what he's saying. Anyway,
Speaker 1: here's some here's some of the trailer. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Why all these Baptists standing up and saying, these freaks
Speaker 1: and go back to Hell, go back to the closet,
Speaker 1: put a bull in your head. Why aren't they saying it?
Speaker 1: I'm bagging a bagging a trans best. I'm disgusting dog.
Speaker 1: No homos will ever be allowed on this turk as
Speaker 1: long as I'm the back or here. Never the law
Speaker 1: of the Lord perfect or is it not? It's perfect?
Speaker 1: And what did he say? Put them to death? You know,
Speaker 1: people say like, well, aren't you sad that fifty saw him? Excide,
Speaker 1: here's the problem with that. It's like the equivalent of
Speaker 1: asking me, you know what have you asked me? Hey?
Speaker 1: Are you sad that fifty pedophiles were killed today? Um? No,
Speaker 1: I think that's great. I think that helps society. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Orlando, Florida is a little safer tonight now
Speaker 1: that fifthy. You know, the tragedy is that more of
Speaker 1: them than die. I mean, the tragedy is I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of upset that hen finished the job
Speaker 1: because these people are predators. So yeah, that sucks. Uh.
Speaker 1: But man, there is just a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of like men in their forties screaming about gay people.
Speaker 1: They they they seem really concerned. Yes. Yeah. Um. Someone
Speaker 1: in that clip is noted homophobe and the Holocaust denier
Speaker 1: Steven Anderson, who of of of Faithful Word Baptist Church.
Speaker 1: He's he's the guy shrieking never never anyway. Uh. Steadfast
Speaker 1: Church members and pastors have continued to show up at
Speaker 1: city council meetings in multiple cities throughout the Dallas Fort
Speaker 1: Worth area. This past Monday, people associated with the church,
Speaker 1: as well as residents opposing Steadfasts bigotry, spoke at a
Speaker 1: city council meeting in Watouga, Texas. I'm here today to
Speaker 1: let the council know of the hay gurt that has
Speaker 1: entered their city. This hay group was called Steadfast Baptist Church.
Speaker 1: It was in June one that I first came across
Speaker 1: the offensive defamation against women and the LGBTQ community. The
Speaker 1: hate statements, videos and social media posts prompted me to
Speaker 1: join the protests that started in hers and now has
Speaker 1: moved to your city. And I apologize for this, but
Speaker 1: this is quoting him. They are all dirty, discased, disgusting
Speaker 1: skank cores. In another video, he also states that women
Speaker 1: in positions of leadership and authority are actually a curse
Speaker 1: upon our nation. Council members, at the very least, you
Speaker 1: should encourage the strip law owner Cider Property of Dallas
Speaker 1: to revoke this church's lease. So yeah, there was there
Speaker 1: was kind of like this back and forth at this
Speaker 1: city council meeting. Multiple multiple people from Steadfast responded by
Speaker 1: screaming into the mic and continuing to advocate the execution
Speaker 1: of gay people. One guy that I'll that'll quickly play
Speaker 1: a clip of as Philip millstread of of Steadfast, he
Speaker 1: went further and made a veiled threat of violence the
Speaker 1: city of Otaga and if police officers are allowing this community,
Speaker 1: the son of my community, to intimidate church members from
Speaker 1: worshiping God the way he should be worshiped and truth
Speaker 1: and if you don't do something, something will happen bad.
Speaker 1: So that's fun. Um. It's also a strong, strong definition
Speaker 1: of the word veiled. Well, I mean like in terms
Speaker 1: like obviously they're they're they're talking about execution and genocide.
Speaker 1: He's talking about like actually doing physical like like actually
Speaker 1: like as vigilante is doing physical violence, which is different
Speaker 1: because Steadfast usually tries to frame their violence within like
Speaker 1: it's okay because it's a part of the government, right.
Speaker 1: Uh So when they're like talking about just doing with
Speaker 1: like vigilantism or listening like we're going to take this
Speaker 1: into our own hands, right, it's it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: little bit different. Wattuga Mayor Arthur Minor this past Tuesday,
Speaker 1: so that he is discussing the status of Steadfast Baptist
Speaker 1: Church with the city attorney, while also stating that the
Speaker 1: attorney has told him that it's a First Amendment issue,
Speaker 1: so that there's quote nothing that the city can do
Speaker 1: at this time, but we are looking at other avenues unquote,
Speaker 1: and I mean that's to be that's probably probably fair.
Speaker 1: It's hard to make a church leave a place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So she did not he did not elaborate further than that,
Speaker 1: but he did encourage people to bring up the issue
Speaker 1: with the person holding Steadfast's lease at this strip mall
Speaker 1: in Watuga. Uh, let us let us go on another
Speaker 1: ad break. Do you know who won't shriek at gay
Speaker 1: people and call on the government to kill them? Hope
Speaker 1: hopefully these these these ads hopefully, I mean not for
Speaker 1: another couple of years. Yeah, well that's why I said hopefully. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's let's talk a bit more about this, this
Speaker 1: church's ideology, and this network that it's associated with, because
Speaker 1: it is actually kind of interesting. So Steadfast Baptist Church
Speaker 1: is part of Steven Anderson's church network called the New
Speaker 1: Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement, uh, which I'm just gonna call
Speaker 1: the New i FB because those are way too many words. Um.
Speaker 1: And they claim it's not like a denomination, but rather
Speaker 1: a revival of what the old Independent Fundamentalist Baptist movement
Speaker 1: once represented. Unquote. The new I f B churches just
Speaker 1: like the old IF churches use the King James Bible exclusively.
Speaker 1: And the Old Life b movement was founded in the
Speaker 1: forties and was trying to reclaim the fundamentalism of the
Speaker 1: nineteen twenties. And so we're just we're going back from
Speaker 1: the two thousand twenties to the twenties. Uh, in terms
Speaker 1: of their social views times of flat circle. Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna quote a little bit from the A
Speaker 1: d L, which of course is very hit and miss
Speaker 1: as an organization. But they didn't. But they did, they did.
Speaker 1: They do have an they do have a decent article
Speaker 1: on the new U I f B churches because this
Speaker 1: is like specifically, the thing they focused on is this
Speaker 1: sort of anti Semitism. So anyway, quote, the New I
Speaker 1: f B ideology promotes the anti Semitic notion that Jews
Speaker 1: today are impostors who are not the true Jews described
Speaker 1: in the Bible, which by the way, is awfully close
Speaker 1: to Christian identity. I mean that is essentially Christian identity.
Speaker 1: It's very very sim alert. I think the new I. F. B.
Speaker 1: Stuff is slightly different. It comes out from a slightly
Speaker 1: different directions, but they reach a very similar conclusion. Like
Speaker 1: I don't think they believe that Christians are like the
Speaker 1: true Jews, and they don't talk about like Arians and stuff,
Speaker 1: and they're not doing British Israelism, but they exact Judaism
Speaker 1: is the Synagogue of say, but it's like, well, some
Speaker 1: of them do use the term the Synagogue of Satan,
Speaker 1: but like you know, they hate Judaism because as a religion,
Speaker 1: it's made up of Jews who do not recognize Jesus
Speaker 1: as the Messiah, so therefore they are not truly descendants
Speaker 1: of Israel, right. It's it's it's they come at it
Speaker 1: from more of that direction, but it is still extremely
Speaker 1: close to Christian identity like it is it is. It
Speaker 1: is just a tiny hop of a pond likes for sure, No,
Speaker 1: they like they are. So they are absolutely in the
Speaker 1: same networks because they are preaching very similar ideology. Um
Speaker 1: back to the back, back to the d L quote.
Speaker 1: They often claim that Jews today worship Satan and that
Speaker 1: the Star of David represents the devil uh. The new
Speaker 1: i FB doctrine promotes the notion of an Antichrist whom
Speaker 1: they claim will be Jewish. In their sermons, various new
Speaker 1: various New i FB pastors often openly state that they
Speaker 1: hate Judaism as a religion, and in addition to criticizing Judaism,
Speaker 1: many New i FB pastors also promote anti Semitic tropes
Speaker 1: about Jewish power and control over sectors like finance, news, media,
Speaker 1: and journalism. New i FB pastors have also promoted Holocaust denial.
Speaker 1: In pastor Steven Anderson presented a number of false claims
Speaker 1: in a video specifically addressing the so called quote Holocaust
Speaker 1: hoax unquote, saying the numbers don't add up, the facts
Speaker 1: don't add up. Um. Anderson alleged that quote some Jews
Speaker 1: were among the many quote casualties on both sides uh
Speaker 1: did matter, but he blamed those deaths on starvation and
Speaker 1: poor conditions, claiming that quote just because people were rounded
Speaker 1: up and putting for slabor camps does not mean that
Speaker 1: they were systematically exterminated or cremated to the tune of
Speaker 1: six million unquote. Unlike many in the evangelical movement. New
Speaker 1: I f B churches are staunchly anti Zionist and anti
Speaker 1: Israel dated christ Zionism as quote jew worship unquote, and
Speaker 1: view the traditional support for Israel among Evangelical Christians as
Speaker 1: a result of Jewish deception in support of the anti christ.
Speaker 1: But they have a ton of opinions about the sinking
Speaker 1: of the U. S. S. Liberty in line with their
Speaker 1: broader anti Simmitic use of Judaism as a false and
Speaker 1: evil religion. The modern nation of Israel is regularly characterized
Speaker 1: as wicked and a fraud unquote. And they do not
Speaker 1: dislike Israel because Israel commits genocide against Palestinian people. Because
Speaker 1: as you say that, they're very pro genocide as a concept. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and to be honest, probably pretty pro genice side of
Speaker 1: the Palestinian people. Yeah, they just not that way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's a little a little right up on what
Speaker 1: this network of churches believes. Like everyone you heard talk
Speaker 1: talk inside the Sodomite Deception trailer is part of this
Speaker 1: network of churches. Um, they're all across the South, some
Speaker 1: of their and some of summer in like California, Arizona, Idaho, oh, Oklahoma, Texas,
Speaker 1: you know, lots of other Southern states, and if you
Speaker 1: want to carry out a sodomite deception, tape your drugs
Speaker 1: to your junk when you drive through Texas. So thankfully,
Speaker 1: churches like these are not standing unopposed. Specifically in the
Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth area, there has been a number of
Speaker 1: protests at the church's old location, which resulted in them
Speaker 1: getting evicted, and protests at their new location. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: place some audio from from protests that have taken taken
Speaker 1: place over the course of the past few weeks. We're
Speaker 1: here to protest that has Baptist charges to the registered
Speaker 1: hate group here in Texas on spl center dot org.
Speaker 1: We protested them and hearst for nine months. We found
Speaker 1: them here and so we are back every Wednesday and
Speaker 1: every Sunday. I am a mom of a kid from
Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community, and I am not going to stand
Speaker 1: for you wishing death upon my kid just because of
Speaker 1: who he is and who knows. It's extremely exhausting, um,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's very reassuring because we
Speaker 1: get nothing but support from the people on the street
Speaker 1: to drive by and give us plenty of homs and waves,
Speaker 1: and it's just so much love and support from the
Speaker 1: people that live in the community here as well as first,
Speaker 1: that's my city, so it's very personal. And I've noticed
Speaker 1: that we've gotten a lot of new people come out
Speaker 1: here because this is their city and it's personal for them.
Speaker 1: So that's that's pretty good to hear that there's actually
Speaker 1: people standing up to to say, hey, these guys suck
Speaker 1: in person. UH, They're all they should be more people
Speaker 1: going in person because once you like, the church is
Speaker 1: obviously facing a lot of a lot of conversations like
Speaker 1: online and stuff, right, they're facing a lot of online pushback,
Speaker 1: but once you bring it into the real world, it
Speaker 1: definitely it's a totally different thing in terms of how
Speaker 1: how they're being viewed. I mean, in some ways, you know,
Speaker 1: they enjoy being persecuted, right, they enjoy the notion of
Speaker 1: Christian persecution. But also it's great to have, you know,
Speaker 1: people we having pride flags outside their little church every Sunday. UM.
Speaker 1: The church still has an active Instagram page UM and
Speaker 1: still has a Twitter account, but their actual tweets do
Speaker 1: keep getting taken down for hate speech. UM. A week ago,
Speaker 1: YouTube striked UH Steadfast's main channel where they post videos
Speaker 1: and sermons as they weren't able to use their main
Speaker 1: channel on Facebook, then began promoting their second YouTube channel
Speaker 1: as a platform to stream their murderous anti gay hate
Speaker 1: sermons during Pride Month, and a few days after I
Speaker 1: posted about that on Twitter, their secondary YouTube got completely banned,
Speaker 1: and then after a few days their Facebook page was
Speaker 1: also taken down. So they are they do have, they
Speaker 1: do have a shrinking online presence. There's this other clip
Speaker 1: from the Sodamite Deception trailer that I think really gives
Speaker 1: you a peek into the minds of these folks who
Speaker 1: are pushing this sort of stuff. Um. And you can
Speaker 1: even see this the same sentiment uh in the rise
Speaker 1: of white nationalism and supremacy this past a decade. And
Speaker 1: my question is why are we embracing all this change
Speaker 1: as Christians to the Bible change. The Bible radically changed
Speaker 1: ten years ago, Mike King, James, Bible hasn't changed. The
Speaker 1: word lincey was translated in sixteen eleven, period, So where
Speaker 1: in the world is everything changing. It's not from gol,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. You know what's coming from the working
Speaker 1: of Satan. The deceiving people thinking all it's normal now.
Speaker 1: So our our challenge, as people who are you know,
Speaker 1: anti fascists, people who stand against you know or anti racist,
Speaker 1: push back against this type of anti queer um organizing
Speaker 1: our Our our challenge is to keep the change coming
Speaker 1: and to push back against these freaks trying to hold
Speaker 1: onto the twentieth century right. The fear of change and
Speaker 1: the fear of the future is driving their you know,
Speaker 1: desire to return to the past. The train of like
Speaker 1: social progress was moving forward over the course of the
Speaker 1: past twenty years, and they're scared and they're trying to
Speaker 1: stop it and move it backwards. And it's up to
Speaker 1: us to make that as hard as possible. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that is that is my that is my stuff on
Speaker 1: on Steadfast Church. I'm now going to open up, open
Speaker 1: up the floor to anyone. Robert Chris, What do you
Speaker 1: guys think of all of the stuff we just heard
Speaker 1: about the past thirty minutes. One of the keys is
Speaker 1: you want to use tape that has a good level
Speaker 1: of it he Asian, but it isn't going to actually
Speaker 1: damage your skin really, Yeah, like tape, what are we
Speaker 1: doing here? Scotch tape will do. Okay, you really want
Speaker 1: to avoid duct tape, but something like painters tape generally
Speaker 1: isn't going to have the adhesion that you need. Um,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little bit unpleasant anytime you're taking
Speaker 1: tape off of And I do recommend actually putting it
Speaker 1: like more in the taint area or the inner thigh.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a better better experience. You might want
Speaker 1: to shave that inner thigh if you're not somebody who
Speaker 1: does normally, just so that you have a better time
Speaker 1: getting your drugs free. But you know, crotch it. That's
Speaker 1: always been my motto. Just crotch it again. Great, great, great,
Speaker 1: great Texas insight coming coming out of Robert Evans here. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, okay, so seriously, the fact that there's
Speaker 1: been resistance to these folks in the street, um, and
Speaker 1: that it's been significant that they've like not just people
Speaker 1: showing up to yell at them, approach them in the moment,
Speaker 1: but people you know, working to get them kicked out
Speaker 1: of their locations and stuff. Um, that's really good. Um.
Speaker 1: And that's that's honestly more the Texas that I have
Speaker 1: known than or at least it's as much of the
Speaker 1: Texas that I've known as like the shitty things that
Speaker 1: this says about Texas. Um. First protest I ever went
Speaker 1: to was against a church like this who you've probably
Speaker 1: heard of, the Westboro Baptist Church, when they showed up
Speaker 1: to protest at the Holocaust Museum. Uh um. And it
Speaker 1: was like like a whole hundreds of people showed up
Speaker 1: to like and there were like six of those fuckers. Um. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, the problem with Texas has never been that, Um,
Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of awesome people in Texas. It's
Speaker 1: that folks like this, these who really want to use
Speaker 1: the mechanisms of the state to carry out a genocide,
Speaker 1: have a lot of friends in high places, and many
Speaker 1: of those folks spent decades ensharing that it's basically impossible
Speaker 1: for anybody else to win election outside of like you know,
Speaker 1: localctions and cities and stuff, which often city governments in Texas. Again,
Speaker 1: if you look at a lot of the the reaction
Speaker 1: to Abbot's anti trans bills and and where will be
Speaker 1: sort of the the actual resistance is Texas is anti
Speaker 1: gay legislation gets more extreme, um. Is in cities like Dallaston,
Speaker 1: Austin and Houston, and it is like local laws and
Speaker 1: local local elected leaders as well as local activists who
Speaker 1: represent an awful lot of Texas. But and you know,
Speaker 1: don't have any real power in the levers of the state.
Speaker 1: But do you tend to stand up and in a
Speaker 1: lot of cases like people did for some of these
Speaker 1: these events in Dallas recently put their bodies, you know,
Speaker 1: in between fascists and the people are threatening. And I
Speaker 1: mean the new I F. B churches are definitely probably
Speaker 1: more extreme, more explicit than most of your average Christian churches.
Speaker 1: But it is not uncommon to preach this general strain
Speaker 1: of homophobia. Maybe it turned down like one not of
Speaker 1: the dial from the pulpit in the majority of of
Speaker 1: of churches, specifically in the South. Um, yeah, we should
Speaker 1: be lighting these people against wall and killing them. But
Speaker 1: you say that, you know, this is not biblical. You
Speaker 1: know we're supposed to live in a biblical society. And
Speaker 1: you say everything, but that last like ten or yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that it is. It is not like this strain
Speaker 1: of homophobia is has been there this this entire time. Um,
Speaker 1: and people of I feel like they have permission to
Speaker 1: say things now that they honestly wouldn't probably wouldn't have
Speaker 1: said as explicitly like five years ago. Um, but there
Speaker 1: was there's always been people working to keep this thing
Speaker 1: within the culture. As as stuff was progressing socially, there
Speaker 1: was people working to keep this type of bigotry still
Speaker 1: alive in large sectors of the American public. And a
Speaker 1: lot of those sectors are related to Evangelical Christianity, and
Speaker 1: a lot of those sectors are really related to the
Speaker 1: communities around church building. So that's like a big part
Speaker 1: and how Christian fascism has been so effective the past
Speaker 1: that you know, like the basically the past decades, starting
Speaker 1: starting with the Tea Party, is that they've had people
Speaker 1: with vested interests like keeping this stuff afloat. I mean, uh,
Speaker 1: Lips of TikTok receives her funding from Seth Dillon, the
Speaker 1: guy who runs The Babylon b which started as a
Speaker 1: Christian satire site. Um like now Elon Musk's favorite place
Speaker 1: on the Internet, which is wild, I mean, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: like like you know, like I I remember reading The
Speaker 1: Babylon B when I was like fucking twelve years old,
Speaker 1: when I was like a Christian kid, like I it
Speaker 1: was just like like It used to be just a small,
Speaker 1: niche Christian site, and now it grew into this you know,
Speaker 1: big powerful force in a modern conservatism. It is directly
Speaker 1: funding lips of TikTok, which is basically now just a
Speaker 1: gun that gets pointed at whatever, you know, target the
Speaker 1: event that that they want. So it's now it's like
Speaker 1: this completely like AstroTurf thing with all of this funding
Speaker 1: and people choosing what events to target. So like it
Speaker 1: all goes back to this, It all goes back to
Speaker 1: these types of churches and this type of this type
Speaker 1: of rhetoric coming out of you know, these few misinterpreted
Speaker 1: biblical passages. It is weird, how Like I mean, when
Speaker 1: I was, you know, a teenager, when you talked about
Speaker 1: like Christian entertainment, Christian comedy, Christian music, Christian media, you
Speaker 1: meant like the most boring milktoast ship and the planet.
Speaker 1: Like not that there wasn't toxic and hateful ship within
Speaker 1: being preached to churches, but like Christian media was like
Speaker 1: it was pretty hard to be offended and most of it.
Speaker 1: And now when you say that, like you immediately go
Speaker 1: to like, oh, yeah, somebody's trying to get gay people murdered. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something else. Yeah, there's been a large increase in
Speaker 1: the militancy of Christian propaganda and posing. You know, stuff
Speaker 1: that used to be just very like very boring milk
Speaker 1: like milk toast and like still very like you know, patriarchal, heteronormative,
Speaker 1: you know, probably low key white supremacist um. Is now Yeah,
Speaker 1: now lots of the propaganda is way more focused in
Speaker 1: this type of like militant Christianity um and focused on
Speaker 1: you know all all of like the end times stuff
Speaker 1: has gotten so much more more of a thing um
Speaker 1: and just how it relates to like physical violence against
Speaker 1: currently living people anyway. Yeah, that's the that's the Steadfast
Speaker 1: Baptist Church and the Sadamite deception um. Brought to you
Speaker 1: by people out of Dallas. So yeah, those are my
Speaker 1: those are my two episodes. I mean we started first
Speaker 1: episode this week was part one. Last episode this week
Speaker 1: is part two, so they're spread out, but those are
Speaker 1: those are my two two episodes on the City of
Speaker 1: the Homophobia and Christian Fascism inside the City of Hate. Look,
Speaker 1: if you want to help out, find the addresses of
Speaker 1: one of these churches. Now, the next thing you're gonna
Speaker 1: do is you're going to find a good Torrent client
Speaker 1: and you're going to download a DVD rip of Morbius.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them out there. Then you're gonna
Speaker 1: burn that. You may need to buy a burner. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't gonna have this equipment. But
Speaker 1: you're gonna burn that onto a DVD. You can also
Speaker 1: put it on a flash drive if you really wanted.
Speaker 1: And then you're just gonna start mailing those in mass
Speaker 1: to the church. If we get them enough copies of Morbius,
Speaker 1: I think we might be able to turn them around.
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