1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to it could happen here. This is part 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: two of I guess two part series about Dallas, Texas. 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Finally we're getting in a Dallas, Texas resident to refute 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: some of this this slander. Sure, my, my, my flawless hometown. 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Uh briefly host to Bernie Sanders when he had to 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: take care of something. I've I've spent a few summers 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: in Dallas. I've I've been around it. Unfortunate, I've been 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: around the DFW area. I wouldn't recommend spending summers in Dallas. 9 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, I wouldn't recommend spending winters in 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Dallas either. There's a couple of weeks in spring that 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: it's tolerable to be in Dallas. Try to make it. 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: Then it occurs to me that we should ask Garsey, 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: where were you when they killed JFK. I was, I'm Garrison, 14 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: I was. I was born in the twenty first century. 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: What have you ever ordered? A man liquor Carcano rifle 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: in the back of American Rifleman magazine. Okay, let's let's 17 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: open by by first briefly talking about the thirty one 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Dorky asked neo Nazis, who gotta rest in Idaho. We're 19 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: planning and you want to talk about it, That's right, 20 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: That is exactly why we've already done the episode. But 21 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm always down to talk about this. I know we 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: just did an episode talking about it, but I wasn't 23 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: on that one. So I have a few paragraphs on 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: how it relates to today's topic of Christian fascist violence. 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: I just want to state that you and I were 26 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: both hanging out at a party when we got the 27 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: news about that, and it is the hardest I have 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: ever seen you laugh for like four hours. So and hey, 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: like Patriot Fronts based on a Texas so that that 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: also there is a degree of relevance here, yes to 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: the bulk of our of our topic today. So yeah, 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty funny because the groups fashions all 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: dressed in the same outfit. It's almost incomprehensibly trade and sauna, 34 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: so they wouldn't pass out well crammed into a hot, 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: sweaty U haul truck driving from all around the country 36 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: to cord relate the Idaho so that they can march 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: around with flags and shields to yell at gay and transcits. 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: And you know what they did Instead, they got filled 39 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: over and setain a ditch while getting their little cladhood 40 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: masks taken off, and spent the rest of a day 41 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: to Idaho jail. And I'll go talxed. It's really funny, 42 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: especially since again their best case scenario was spending a 43 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: day free in quarterlin Ida. I know, and it's so yeah, yeah, yeah, 44 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: I'll be like, you can be against cops in the 45 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: carstral system while still recognizing how innately and hilarious superious, 46 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: like it's it's fine when cops and groups like Patriot 47 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: Front beef that's generally a win win for me. I'm 48 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: not cheering on police tactics. It's just it's just recognizing 49 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: that one of my enemies temporarily making another of my 50 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: enemies life's harder is pretty funny. It's really funny. It's 51 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: it's the same reason that we don't condemn police violence 52 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: when a cop shoots another cop like exactly like like's 53 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: and like, based on these charges, I doubt any of 54 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: these guys, in particular, we'll go to prison for long 55 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: enough to form like any like dangerous connections with other 56 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: incarcert and people. Well, I'm sure there's a couple of 57 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: dudes in there that if you know, they were to 58 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: go to a serious prison, could make meaningful inroads with 59 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: the Nazis there. But man, most of those dudes Area 60 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Nations guys are just kind of like they're not going 61 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: to consider comrades like the the Yeah, it's yeah, I 62 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: think I think the Patroon Front, Idaho situation seems like 63 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: it will mostly just be inconvenience and national embarrassment for them, 64 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: And I think time, I think we can we can 65 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: let this one just be as funny as it is, 66 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: considering there was thirty less Nazis there to intimidate and 67 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: attack people at pride Um and Patriot Front maybe now 68 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: less willing to pull stunts like this in the future. Yeah. 69 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: I've thought about this a lot, and I just can't 70 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: see anyways in which what has happened could really be 71 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: a problem. Um, it seems to just purely be funny, 72 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: So just enjoy it. Yeah, look, look this this is 73 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: what happens when you appropriate lesbian culture. You get arrested. Actually, 74 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: not all that different from what Garrison was saying immediately 75 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: after the arrest, That is true. I made a lot 76 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: of jokes about how Patriot Front looks pretty pretty gay 77 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: while getting handcuffed. Get the shine the cancel radar, get 78 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: the cancelometer out. We're canceling Garrison. Um. Anyway, let's let's 79 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: continue with this episode. So here is some other fun 80 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: facts about about the whole Idaho thing. So to a 81 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: the Patriot Front members who were crammed into that U 82 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: haul last weekend. We're connected to a church helmed by 83 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: former Washington state Representative Matt Shay who's also associated with 84 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: the Bundees, the Oath Keepers and leads the church at 85 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: Planned Parenthood. Uh. He has advocated like civil war if 86 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: abortion and seem sex marriage aren't stopped, to kill all 87 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: the men in left wing cities, all that good stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 88 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: And he was also present at the protesting cort alane 89 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: at the Pride event this past weekend. And we can 90 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: we can draw like this direct line from the surge 91 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: of groomer and anti drag propaganda to neo Nazis deciding 92 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: to organize and travel across straight lines to threaten people 93 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: in a Pride event in the days leading up to 94 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: the event. Chaia right check the woman behind the Limbs 95 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: of TikTok account repeatedly highlighted it weaponizing pearl clutching Satanic panic. 96 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: In right Check's first post about the Pride event, it 97 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: was about how the Satanic Temple was promoting the event. 98 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: In an Adelite tweet by someone claiming to represent local Satanists. 99 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: On seventh, Lips of TikTok posted quote, family friendly drag 100 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: dance party being promoted by the Satanic Temple in Idaho. 101 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: We are living in hell, which is a nice and 102 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: I slip un there that I can't quite tell if 103 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: that was intentional or unintentional about Satanic Temple and living 104 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: in hell. Anyway, I thought that was funny. Um Dave Riley, 105 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: a white supremacist who attended the deadly Unite the Right 106 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: rally and Charlottesville who also organized with Identity Europa a 107 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: few years back. He he actively solicited lives of TikTok 108 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: to draw attention to the Pride event and sought her 109 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: help in trying to like get publicity for the protests 110 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: against it, quoting the SPLC hate Watch quote. The Idaho 111 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: Tribune also due attention to it. Idaho Tribune, far from 112 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: a real newspaper, is to obscure junkan news publication that 113 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: on multiple occasions has promoted Riley's political activism. Anti racist 114 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: activists also tipped hate Watch off to infrastructural overlap between 115 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: a website that promotes Riley by name and Idaho Tribune. 116 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: Hey Watch reviewed the source code for Dave Riley's website 117 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: and the Idaho Tribune site and confirmed that the two 118 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: sites share graphics from the same web hosting account, meaning 119 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: that they are likely controlled by the same person unquote. 120 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: And then on June nine, Lips of TikTok posted screenshots 121 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: taken from the Idaho Tribune about the Satanic temple and 122 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: the quarterly and Pride event, boosting content from that white 123 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: supremacist linked to website to her one point two million followers. 124 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: Every single one of these figures using fascist rhetoric at 125 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: utilizing stochastic methods, including Chia Wright check, her financial backer 126 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Seth Dylan, and people like Tucker Carlson are all responsible 127 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: for inciting events like this. Tucker led his show last 128 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: week by using a Nazi reference when referring to a 129 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: Pride event in Dallas in terms of stuff that's like 130 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: outside of you know, conservative states like idahoor Texas. Late 131 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: last month, right Check as Lips of TikTok Target did 132 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: a Bay Area drag Queen storytime event, which is exactly 133 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: what it sounds like. It's drag queen's reading children's books 134 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: to kids in a public library. And then on June twelve, 135 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: it was stormed by a group of around ten men 136 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: dressed in proud boy attire and shirts that read kill 137 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: your local pedophile. They threatened attendees while shouting homophobic and 138 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: transphobic slurs, terrifying a bunch of kids who had come 139 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: to hear queens read stories. So how did this kind 140 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: of stuff and like, how did this rhetoric spread so quickly? 141 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: Like how did this grumar stuff get so volatile so quickly? 142 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: Just in these just in these past few months, in 143 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: our War on Transpeople episodes and my Operation Privateful episodes, 144 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: we discussed the history of this sort of like save 145 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: the children and like pedophile rhetoric. Uh. And in my 146 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: City of Hate episode earlier this week, we talked about 147 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: how this wave of homophobia was able to write off 148 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: the conspiracism of Pizza Gate and Q and on. And 149 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: then in this episode we're gonna talk about the types 150 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: of places that this extreme bigotry was able to fester 151 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: this past decade and how it relates to Evangelical Christianity 152 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: and Christian fascism. I'm gonna play an audio clip from 153 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: a city council meeting in Arlington, Texas that happened on 154 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: May twenty five. Take a listen. My name is Jonathan Joey. 155 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm the pastor has been as Badness Church, and I'm 156 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: here today because I have church members that live in Arlington. 157 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: I live only a few miles away from here, and 158 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: I do business in Arlington on a weekly basis. I'm 159 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: horrified and ashamed that the city has assigned promote and 160 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: solicit pride in this city. Pride is nothing to be celebrated. 161 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: In fact, it's an abomination. The Bible says in Proverbs 162 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: chapter eight, the fear of the Lord is to hate pride, 163 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: hate evil, pride and arrogancy and the evil way and 164 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: the throw word mouth do I hate? According to God, 165 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: we should hate pride, not celebrate it. We should humble ourselves, 166 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: as virtually the whole room said that we were a 167 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: nation under God in the American flag, and we were 168 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: a state under God. If we're in the Texas flag, 169 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: we should humble ourselves. What the Bible says, and not 170 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: what the small minority here that doesn't bully would say. 171 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: In June of Mayor Jeff Williams officially announced the Steps 172 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: a Pride month in June for the city of Arleyton. 173 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: But I don't understand why we celebrate what used to 174 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: be a crime not long ago. The fact, recording to 175 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: the Texas penal coach and sex respectful homosexual conduct, that 176 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: person commiss an offense and he engaged in deviated sexual 177 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: intercourse with another individual of the same sex. In fact, 178 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: that is still on the books today, even though Lawrence 179 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: versus Texas overruled that in two thousand three. But God 180 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: has already ruled that murder adults, three witch graft rate, 181 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: beastiality of homosexualities are crimes worthy of capital punishment. Arlington, 182 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: just for context, is one of many towns in North 183 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: Dallas that if you happen to have wheed on you, 184 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to tape it to the bottom of 185 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: your balls before driving through Arlington. Thanks for that great, 186 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: great weed tip from You're welcome Garrison. So that is 187 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: Pastor Jonathan Shelley who lives in Grand Prairie, UM. He 188 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: was there at a at an Arlington, Texas City Council meeting, 189 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: casually advocating killing gay people while citing Texas is laws 190 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: against homosexuality. Their church and this connected branch of Baptists 191 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: that will learn more about later, have an intense record 192 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: of preaching genocide against gay and trans people and also 193 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: a fair amount of anti Semitism. Big big shocker there. 194 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: The previous pastor at this church, which was called Steadfast 195 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: Baptist Church. UM. But the previous pastor who resigned in 196 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen due to allegations that he paid for sex workers, 197 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: was involved in gambling, and had smoked marijuana. I guess 198 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: he should have taped more of it to his balls. 199 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: Um to Nash, he carter national attention for celebrating the 200 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: Orlando Pulse gay nightclub massacre, which killed people. From the pulpit, 201 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: the pastor said that God should finish the job and 202 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: referred to the murdered patrons as sodomites, perverts, and pedophiles. 203 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: The new pastor, John Shelley, continues this same strain of 204 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: preaching violence against gay people. Uh. This next clip is 205 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: from June one, right after someone died after getting hit 206 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: by a truck. At a Pride parade in Florida, which 207 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: we later found out was a complete accident. But I 208 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: don't don't think the public knew that at the time. No, 209 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: and obviously people, I mean, I think all of our 210 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: assumptions was, oh god, you know this is the thing. Yeah, well, 211 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: here's the clip. If it's going beyond just saying you 212 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: do all this week and stuff, it's saying you enjoy it, 213 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: You enjoy murder, you enjoy malignity, you enjoy hating God. Look, 214 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: there's only one group that enjoys that is the Pride 215 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: parades going up now Street. And you know it's great 216 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: when trucks accidentally go through those, you know, parades. I 217 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: think only one person died, so hopefully we can hope 218 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: for more in the future. You say, well, that's mean. Yeah, 219 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: but the Bible says that they're worthy of death. You say, 220 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: are you sad when fags die? No, I think it's great. 221 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: I hope they all die. I would love it if 222 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: every fag would die right now. And you say, well, 223 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that's what you really mean. That's exactly 224 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: what I mean. I really mean it. So yeah, it's 225 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: it's a poor drummer like that's June, even a year 226 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: before the big wave of groomer stuff got pushed this 227 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: past spring with the help of Lives of TikTok, and 228 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: that kind of shows how susceptible modern conservatism was to 229 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: this resurgence of in your face homophobia. There's been people 230 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: to working to like keep it here the whole time, 231 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: just bubbling beneath the surface, and now it's just completely 232 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: boiled over. Um. And I'm gonna say, like the rest 233 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: of the episode is going to get into some pretty 234 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: dark stuff. We're there's gonna be a few more clips 235 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: that are pretty are pretty gross if you want to, 236 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: if you want to check out, that's totally fine. After 237 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: this episode, I myself, I'm going to take a little 238 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: bit of a break from covering this sort of thing 239 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: that's taking a little bit too much of a mental 240 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: toll because it's a lot of genocide. It's it is, 241 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: it's it is. It's pretty intense. Uh. If you do 242 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: feel the need to leave before you go, just remember 243 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: this simple phrase for keeping safe in the DFW area. 244 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: Tape it to your balls, and your happiness won't be smalls. 245 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: So here's another clip from June of Shelley reiterating his 246 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: call for the government to execute gay people after he 247 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: received some public backlash for his the previous clip that 248 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: we that we used. And I personally believe that all 249 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: of these sodomites, you know, people that are men with men, 250 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: are pedophile because that means that they just simply are 251 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: attracted to children. They're attracted to these people that are 252 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: the ages of seventeen, sixteen, fifteen, even though they're grown adult. 253 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: They're going after children and very young children often cases, 254 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: and lessing them and hurting them. And you know, anybody 255 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: that loves children, loves their family, would want this person 256 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: to be executed through the proper channels. That's what I believe, 257 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: That's what I teach. I'm not a violent person. So my, my, my, 258 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: my kind of fear is that Shelley or someone like 259 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, John Doyle that we talked about in our 260 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: last City of Hit episode, is not that they themselves 261 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: will bring a weapon to some future pride parade or 262 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: go on a rampage and assault or kill gay people, right. 263 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: It's that one of their followers or one of their 264 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: fans will And these types of pastors and far right 265 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: media figures are intentionally leading people onto that outcome. Uh 266 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: to quote Hey, Matt Meta, who's been tracking Steadfast for years, quote, 267 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: Because while Shelley is celebrating murder, he's also handing his 268 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: congregation a metaphorical loaded gun. And if somebody eventually uses 269 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: a literal one to follow through on what they believe 270 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: to be God's orders, they know that Shelley will be 271 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: proud of them, even as he tells the world he 272 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: has absolutely nothing to do with it. Unquote. So, under 273 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: the pressure of activists, Steadfast actually got evicted from their 274 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: old building in Hearst, Texas this past March for spreading 275 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: their extreme anti LGBT hate and calls for violence, which 276 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: was in violation of the terms of its least, which 277 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: prohibited violence and threats. The church has an active gab page, 278 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: which kind of tells you a little bit about the 279 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: people running this sort of operation. Uh. Insteadfast publicly organized 280 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: and live streamed their sermons on a very active Facebook page, 281 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: which is no longer active for reasons that we will 282 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: later discuss. And then during these past few months, they've 283 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: relocated their church from her to a building that's part 284 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: of a strip mall in Wattaga, Texas. Is that how 285 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying That's That's the thing about any town in 286 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: Texas is he doesn't have It doesn't matter how you 287 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: pronounce it, because they're Texans, Watauga, wat whatever, do whatever 288 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: you want anyway, they're now a strip mall church. What 289 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: I think is good to look for them. I mean 290 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: that you're okay, I will correct you here. You're saying 291 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: that like it's it's funny as opposed to just the 292 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: way everything is in Texas because Texas is a giant 293 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: strip mall. Yeah. I guess though. And well, John Shelley 294 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: is pretty bad, right, We've we've heard a lot of 295 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: bad clips of him talking about how gay people are 296 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: pedophiles and how they should all be killed by the government. 297 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: He's not the only guy who's Teadfast preaching violent in 298 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: genocidal rhetoric. Enter Dylan Oz, formerly based out of Boise, Idaho, 299 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: now preaching at Stedfast Baptist Church in Wattuga, Texas. On Sunday, 300 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: June four, a Dylan us Well preaching from the pulpit, 301 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: said that the quote solution for the homosexual is for 302 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: the government to execute every single gay person. Here's here 303 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: is here the c of him that what does God 304 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: say is the answer is the solution for the homosexual 305 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty two, here in the New Testament, 306 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: here in the Book of Romans, that they are worthy 307 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: of death. These people should be put to death. Every 308 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: single homosexual in our country should be charged with the 309 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: crime the abomination of homosexuality that they have. They should 310 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: be convicted in a lawful trial. They should be sentenced 311 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: with death. They should be lined up against the wall 312 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: and shot in the back of the head. That's what 313 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: God teaches. That's what the Bible says. You don't like it, 314 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: you don't like God's work, because that is what God says. 315 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that the Bible says anything about guns. Actually, Um, 316 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: it's it's it's been a while since I read the 317 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: King James version that sad Fast exclusively uses. So maybe 318 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: it's like a translation thing, but I don't I don't 319 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: remember anything about shooting or bullets r guns and inside 320 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: my Bible. Um. But speaking of translation things, I'm gonna 321 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: go on a little theology right here about quote unquote 322 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: lying with man or lying with men um and how 323 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: scholars actually believe if you look at the original Biblical 324 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: texts not the crap like the King James version and 325 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: the nonsense based off that horrible translation, but the chapters 326 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: where people pull stuff supposedly condemning men for laying with 327 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: men and quote unquote homosexuality, which is obviously like a 328 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: very modern word, does not belong in a text as 329 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: old at the Bible, like they just worre didn't that 330 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: wor didn't exist yet. Um, but those passages would probably 331 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: more accurately translate to condemning adult men who rape young boys. Uh. 332 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: And even if they didn't, even if it was about 333 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: adult men with other adult men. I don't fucking care, 334 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: and neither should most Christians, because Christians are not following 335 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: all of the laws of Leviticus, nor should they. Like 336 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: that ship was for Israelites thousands of years ago to 337 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: make their culture distinct from other surrounding nations, like Christians 338 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: aren't railing against the use of mixed fabric for Christ's sake. 339 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 1: I am. There's there's a lot of there's a lot 340 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: of stuff. Believe in eating shrimp, But I think if 341 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: you use mixed fabrics, you should be executed. You should 342 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: be well shot in the back of the head. That's 343 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: the mainly thing that anyone using mixed fabrics death penalty instantly. Yeah, 344 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: so like, obviously there's not these churches preaching against mixed fabric. 345 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: Here's here's Christian preacher Dylanas again justifying his calls for 346 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: the execution of gay people by falsely claiming, obviously that 347 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: all homosexuals are pedophiles. Here's the thing, here's why reprobates. 348 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: Here's why homosexuals are so dangerous to society. They're not 349 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: like other sinners in the sense that every single day 350 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: that they are alive, they're being filled with more and 351 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: more and more unrighteousness. That is a scary thing. You 352 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: want to know why we say that all homosexuals are pedophiles, 353 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: And let me make that very clear. All homosexuals are pedophiles. 354 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: And people say, well, what about all the straight people 355 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: that molest children? There faces, I don't care what you 356 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: call them. If if a person is with a child, 357 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: you're fact, you're reprobated, your sodomite. I don't care what 358 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: kind of classifications our government wants to give them. All 359 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: homosexuals are pedophiles. Now here's the thing. Here's here's what 360 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying that every single homosexual 361 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: that's alive right now has committed that act with a 362 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: child already, because there it could be that they haven't 363 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: had the opportunity yet and they will at some point 364 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: later in their life. This is why we need to 365 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: put these people to death through the proper channels of 366 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: the government, because the Bible says that they are being filled. 367 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Yes, maybe not every single homosexual 368 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: has been with a child yet, but what about tomorrow 369 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: when they're filled with a more righteousness. What about in 370 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: a week from now when they're a little filled with 371 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: a little more righteousness. What about twenty years from now? 372 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: What are they going to be like? You look up 373 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: the statistics on the Sodomites that abused children there with 374 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: so many children and will make you throw up disgusting. 375 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: These people are not normal. They're not your average every 376 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: day centers. They're what the Bible calls reverbates. They're rejected 377 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: by God. They have no hope of salvation. So in 378 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: one John Shelley with Steadfast Baptist Church and with the 379 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: help of a network of aggressively homopoblic churches, made a 380 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: two hour quote unquote documentary about how to quote protect 381 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: your children called and it's the title is called the 382 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: Sodomite Deception. See all right, look's going to look if 383 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: we're going to do this thing where there's licenses for 384 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: people to buy guns, can we have there be a 385 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: license to make a documentary? Can we marry too? So 386 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: the quote unquote Sodomite Deception claims to expose how the 387 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: l g b t Q community is contributing to the 388 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: collapse of modern society, which I mean based Um. The 389 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: trailer opens with a real banger. Most Americans are repelled 390 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: by the mere notion of homosexuality. The CBS News survey 391 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: shows that two out of three Americans look upon homosexuals 392 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: we've discussed discomfort or fear. One out of ten says hatred. 393 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: The documentary celebrates historical laws that criminalized homosexuality and criticizes 394 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: more recent laws that expand lgbt Q rights. In the film, 395 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: shall He advocates for the death penalty to be used 396 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: on the LGBTQ community and uses, you know, many many 397 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: slurs across this whole thing, all of all of them 398 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: use all kinds of sluries, as I'm sure we've heard 399 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: this past episode. Uh, the pastors of other churches part 400 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: of the New Independent Fundamental Baptist movement, also featured in 401 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: the documentary. Here's a collection of said pastors screaming in 402 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: the trailer for the Sun of My Deception. Oh, thank you, Garrison, 403 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: thank you for playing us a trailer of people screaming. 404 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. Starting off with Shelley saying, quote, 405 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: why aren't all these Baptists standing up and saying, these 406 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: freaks should go back to Hell, should go back in 407 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: the closet, put a bullet in your head? Why are 408 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: they saying it? Because some of the some of what 409 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: he says his heart to hear. So I'm just saying 410 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: that for you guys, so you know what he's saying. Anyway, 411 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: here's some here's some of the trailer. It's pretty funny. 412 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: Why all these Baptists standing up and saying, these freaks 413 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: and go back to Hell, go back to the closet, 414 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: put a bull in your head. Why aren't they saying it? 415 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm bagging a bagging a trans best. I'm disgusting dog. 416 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: No homos will ever be allowed on this turk as 417 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: long as I'm the back or here. Never the law 418 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: of the Lord perfect or is it not? It's perfect? 419 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: And what did he say? Put them to death? You know, 420 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: people say like, well, aren't you sad that fifty saw him? Excide, 421 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: here's the problem with that. It's like the equivalent of 422 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: asking me, you know what have you asked me? Hey? 423 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: Are you sad that fifty pedophiles were killed today? Um? No, 424 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: I think that's great. I think that helps society. You know, 425 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: I think Orlando, Florida is a little safer tonight now 426 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: that fifthy. You know, the tragedy is that more of 427 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: them than die. I mean, the tragedy is I'm I'm 428 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of upset that hen finished the job 429 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: because these people are predators. So yeah, that sucks. Uh. 430 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: But man, there is just a lot of a lot 431 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: of like men in their forties screaming about gay people. 432 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: They they they seem really concerned. Yes. Yeah. Um. Someone 433 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: in that clip is noted homophobe and the Holocaust denier 434 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: Steven Anderson, who of of of Faithful Word Baptist Church. 435 00:25:54,440 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: He's he's the guy shrieking never never anyway. Uh. Steadfast 436 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: Church members and pastors have continued to show up at 437 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: city council meetings in multiple cities throughout the Dallas Fort 438 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: Worth area. This past Monday, people associated with the church, 439 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: as well as residents opposing Steadfasts bigotry, spoke at a 440 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: city council meeting in Watouga, Texas. I'm here today to 441 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: let the council know of the hay gurt that has 442 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: entered their city. This hay group was called Steadfast Baptist Church. 443 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: It was in June one that I first came across 444 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: the offensive defamation against women and the LGBTQ community. The 445 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: hate statements, videos and social media posts prompted me to 446 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: join the protests that started in hers and now has 447 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: moved to your city. And I apologize for this, but 448 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: this is quoting him. They are all dirty, discased, disgusting 449 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: skank cores. In another video, he also states that women 450 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: in positions of leadership and authority are actually a curse 451 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: upon our nation. Council members, at the very least, you 452 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: should encourage the strip law owner Cider Property of Dallas 453 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: to revoke this church's lease. So yeah, there was there 454 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: was kind of like this back and forth at this 455 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: city council meeting. Multiple multiple people from Steadfast responded by 456 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: screaming into the mic and continuing to advocate the execution 457 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: of gay people. One guy that I'll that'll quickly play 458 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: a clip of as Philip millstread of of Steadfast, he 459 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: went further and made a veiled threat of violence the 460 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: city of Otaga and if police officers are allowing this community, 461 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: the son of my community, to intimidate church members from 462 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: worshiping God the way he should be worshiped and truth 463 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: and if you don't do something, something will happen bad. 464 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: So that's fun. Um. It's also a strong, strong definition 465 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: of the word veiled. Well, I mean like in terms 466 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: like obviously they're they're they're talking about execution and genocide. 467 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: He's talking about like actually doing physical like like actually 468 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: like as vigilante is doing physical violence, which is different 469 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: because Steadfast usually tries to frame their violence within like 470 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: it's okay because it's a part of the government, right. 471 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: Uh So when they're like talking about just doing with 472 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: like vigilantism or listening like we're going to take this 473 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: into our own hands, right, it's it's it's it's a 474 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: little bit different. Wattuga Mayor Arthur Minor this past Tuesday, 475 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: so that he is discussing the status of Steadfast Baptist 476 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: Church with the city attorney, while also stating that the 477 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: attorney has told him that it's a First Amendment issue, 478 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: so that there's quote nothing that the city can do 479 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: at this time, but we are looking at other avenues unquote, 480 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: and I mean that's to be that's probably probably fair. 481 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: It's hard to make a church leave a place. Yeah, 482 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: So she did not he did not elaborate further than that, 483 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: but he did encourage people to bring up the issue 484 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: with the person holding Steadfast's lease at this strip mall 485 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: in Watuga. Uh, let us let us go on another 486 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: ad break. Do you know who won't shriek at gay 487 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: people and call on the government to kill them? Hope 488 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: hopefully these these these ads hopefully, I mean not for 489 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: another couple of years. Yeah, well that's why I said hopefully. Okay, 490 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: So let's let's talk a bit more about this, this 491 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: church's ideology, and this network that it's associated with, because 492 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: it is actually kind of interesting. So Steadfast Baptist Church 493 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: is part of Steven Anderson's church network called the New 494 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement, uh, which I'm just gonna call 495 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: the New i FB because those are way too many words. Um. 496 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: And they claim it's not like a denomination, but rather 497 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: a revival of what the old Independent Fundamentalist Baptist movement 498 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: once represented. Unquote. The new I f B churches just 499 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: like the old IF churches use the King James Bible exclusively. 500 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: And the Old Life b movement was founded in the 501 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: forties and was trying to reclaim the fundamentalism of the 502 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties. And so we're just we're going back from 503 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: the two thousand twenties to the twenties. Uh, in terms 504 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: of their social views times of flat circle. Uh, I'm 505 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna quote a little bit from the A 506 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: d L, which of course is very hit and miss 507 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: as an organization. But they didn't. But they did, they did. 508 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: They do have an they do have a decent article 509 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: on the new U I f B churches because this 510 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: is like specifically, the thing they focused on is this 511 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: sort of anti Semitism. So anyway, quote, the New I 512 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: f B ideology promotes the anti Semitic notion that Jews 513 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: today are impostors who are not the true Jews described 514 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: in the Bible, which by the way, is awfully close 515 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: to Christian identity. I mean that is essentially Christian identity. 516 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: It's very very sim alert. I think the new I. F. B. 517 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: Stuff is slightly different. It comes out from a slightly 518 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: different directions, but they reach a very similar conclusion. Like 519 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't think they believe that Christians are like the 520 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: true Jews, and they don't talk about like Arians and stuff, 521 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: and they're not doing British Israelism, but they exact Judaism 522 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: is the Synagogue of say, but it's like, well, some 523 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: of them do use the term the Synagogue of Satan, 524 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: but like you know, they hate Judaism because as a religion, 525 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: it's made up of Jews who do not recognize Jesus 526 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: as the Messiah, so therefore they are not truly descendants 527 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: of Israel, right. It's it's it's they come at it 528 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: from more of that direction, but it is still extremely 529 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: close to Christian identity like it is it is. It 530 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: is just a tiny hop of a pond likes for sure, No, 531 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: they like they are. So they are absolutely in the 532 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: same networks because they are preaching very similar ideology. Um 533 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: back to the back, back to the d L quote. 534 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: They often claim that Jews today worship Satan and that 535 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: the Star of David represents the devil uh. The new 536 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: i FB doctrine promotes the notion of an Antichrist whom 537 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: they claim will be Jewish. In their sermons, various new 538 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: various New i FB pastors often openly state that they 539 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: hate Judaism as a religion, and in addition to criticizing Judaism, 540 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: many New i FB pastors also promote anti Semitic tropes 541 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: about Jewish power and control over sectors like finance, news, media, 542 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: and journalism. New i FB pastors have also promoted Holocaust denial. 543 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: In pastor Steven Anderson presented a number of false claims 544 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: in a video specifically addressing the so called quote Holocaust 545 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: hoax unquote, saying the numbers don't add up, the facts 546 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: don't add up. Um. Anderson alleged that quote some Jews 547 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: were among the many quote casualties on both sides uh 548 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: did matter, but he blamed those deaths on starvation and 549 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: poor conditions, claiming that quote just because people were rounded 550 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: up and putting for slabor camps does not mean that 551 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: they were systematically exterminated or cremated to the tune of 552 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: six million unquote. Unlike many in the evangelical movement. New 553 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: I f B churches are staunchly anti Zionist and anti 554 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: Israel dated christ Zionism as quote jew worship unquote, and 555 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: view the traditional support for Israel among Evangelical Christians as 556 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: a result of Jewish deception in support of the anti christ. 557 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: But they have a ton of opinions about the sinking 558 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,239 Speaker 1: of the U. S. S. Liberty in line with their 559 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: broader anti Simmitic use of Judaism as a false and 560 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: evil religion. The modern nation of Israel is regularly characterized 561 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: as wicked and a fraud unquote. And they do not 562 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: dislike Israel because Israel commits genocide against Palestinian people. Because 563 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: as you say that, they're very pro genocide as a concept. Yeah, 564 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: and to be honest, probably pretty pro genice side of 565 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: the Palestinian people. Yeah, they just not that way. Yeah. 566 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: So that's a little a little right up on what 567 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: this network of churches believes. Like everyone you heard talk 568 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: talk inside the Sodomite Deception trailer is part of this 569 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: network of churches. Um, they're all across the South, some 570 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: of their and some of summer in like California, Arizona, Idaho, oh, Oklahoma, Texas, 571 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, lots of other Southern states, and if you 572 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: want to carry out a sodomite deception, tape your drugs 573 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: to your junk when you drive through Texas. So thankfully, 574 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: churches like these are not standing unopposed. Specifically in the 575 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth area, there has been a number of 576 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: protests at the church's old location, which resulted in them 577 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: getting evicted, and protests at their new location. I'm gonna 578 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: place some audio from from protests that have taken taken 579 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: place over the course of the past few weeks. We're 580 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: here to protest that has Baptist charges to the registered 581 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: hate group here in Texas on spl center dot org. 582 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: We protested them and hearst for nine months. We found 583 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: them here and so we are back every Wednesday and 584 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: every Sunday. I am a mom of a kid from 585 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community, and I am not going to stand 586 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: for you wishing death upon my kid just because of 587 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: who he is and who knows. It's extremely exhausting, um, 588 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's very reassuring because we 589 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: get nothing but support from the people on the street 590 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: to drive by and give us plenty of homs and waves, 591 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: and it's just so much love and support from the 592 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: people that live in the community here as well as first, 593 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: that's my city, so it's very personal. And I've noticed 594 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: that we've gotten a lot of new people come out 595 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: here because this is their city and it's personal for them. 596 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: So that's that's pretty good to hear that there's actually 597 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: people standing up to to say, hey, these guys suck 598 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: in person. UH, They're all they should be more people 599 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: going in person because once you like, the church is 600 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: obviously facing a lot of a lot of conversations like 601 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: online and stuff, right, they're facing a lot of online pushback, 602 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: but once you bring it into the real world, it 603 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: definitely it's a totally different thing in terms of how 604 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: how they're being viewed. I mean, in some ways, you know, 605 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: they enjoy being persecuted, right, they enjoy the notion of 606 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: Christian persecution. But also it's great to have, you know, 607 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: people we having pride flags outside their little church every Sunday. UM. 608 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: The church still has an active Instagram page UM and 609 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: still has a Twitter account, but their actual tweets do 610 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: keep getting taken down for hate speech. UM. A week ago, 611 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: YouTube striked UH Steadfast's main channel where they post videos 612 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: and sermons as they weren't able to use their main 613 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 1: channel on Facebook, then began promoting their second YouTube channel 614 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: as a platform to stream their murderous anti gay hate 615 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: sermons during Pride Month, and a few days after I 616 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: posted about that on Twitter, their secondary YouTube got completely banned, 617 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: and then after a few days their Facebook page was 618 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: also taken down. So they are they do have, they 619 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: do have a shrinking online presence. There's this other clip 620 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: from the Sodamite Deception trailer that I think really gives 621 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: you a peek into the minds of these folks who 622 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: are pushing this sort of stuff. Um. And you can 623 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: even see this the same sentiment uh in the rise 624 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: of white nationalism and supremacy this past a decade. And 625 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: my question is why are we embracing all this change 626 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: as Christians to the Bible change. The Bible radically changed 627 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: ten years ago, Mike King, James, Bible hasn't changed. The 628 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: word lincey was translated in sixteen eleven, period, So where 629 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: in the world is everything changing. It's not from gol, 630 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: that's for sure. You know what's coming from the working 631 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: of Satan. The deceiving people thinking all it's normal now. 632 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: So our our challenge, as people who are you know, 633 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: anti fascists, people who stand against you know or anti racist, 634 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: push back against this type of anti queer um organizing 635 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: our Our our challenge is to keep the change coming 636 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: and to push back against these freaks trying to hold 637 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: onto the twentieth century right. The fear of change and 638 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: the fear of the future is driving their you know, 639 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: desire to return to the past. The train of like 640 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: social progress was moving forward over the course of the 641 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: past twenty years, and they're scared and they're trying to 642 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: stop it and move it backwards. And it's up to 643 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: us to make that as hard as possible. Um. But yeah, 644 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: that is that is my that is my stuff on 645 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,479 Speaker 1: on Steadfast Church. I'm now going to open up, open 646 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: up the floor to anyone. Robert Chris, What do you 647 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: guys think of all of the stuff we just heard 648 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: about the past thirty minutes. One of the keys is 649 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: you want to use tape that has a good level 650 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: of it he Asian, but it isn't going to actually 651 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: damage your skin really, Yeah, like tape, what are we 652 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: doing here? Scotch tape will do. Okay, you really want 653 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: to avoid duct tape, but something like painters tape generally 654 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: isn't going to have the adhesion that you need. Um, 655 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little bit unpleasant anytime you're taking 656 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: tape off of And I do recommend actually putting it 657 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,479 Speaker 1: like more in the taint area or the inner thigh. 658 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a better better experience. You might want 659 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: to shave that inner thigh if you're not somebody who 660 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: does normally, just so that you have a better time 661 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: getting your drugs free. But you know, crotch it. That's 662 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: always been my motto. Just crotch it again. Great, great, great, 663 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: great Texas insight coming coming out of Robert Evans here. No, 664 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: I mean, like, okay, so seriously, the fact that there's 665 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: been resistance to these folks in the street, um, and 666 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: that it's been significant that they've like not just people 667 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: showing up to yell at them, approach them in the moment, 668 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: but people you know, working to get them kicked out 669 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: of their locations and stuff. Um, that's really good. Um. 670 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: And that's that's honestly more the Texas that I have 671 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: known than or at least it's as much of the 672 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: Texas that I've known as like the shitty things that 673 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: this says about Texas. Um. First protest I ever went 674 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: to was against a church like this who you've probably 675 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: heard of, the Westboro Baptist Church, when they showed up 676 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: to protest at the Holocaust Museum. Uh um. And it 677 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: was like like a whole hundreds of people showed up 678 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: to like and there were like six of those fuckers. Um. So, 679 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the problem with Texas has never been that, Um, 680 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of awesome people in Texas. It's 681 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: that folks like this, these who really want to use 682 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: the mechanisms of the state to carry out a genocide, 683 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: have a lot of friends in high places, and many 684 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: of those folks spent decades ensharing that it's basically impossible 685 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: for anybody else to win election outside of like you know, 686 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: localctions and cities and stuff, which often city governments in Texas. Again, 687 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 1: if you look at a lot of the the reaction 688 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: to Abbot's anti trans bills and and where will be 689 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: sort of the the actual resistance is Texas is anti 690 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: gay legislation gets more extreme, um. Is in cities like Dallaston, 691 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: Austin and Houston, and it is like local laws and 692 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: local local elected leaders as well as local activists who 693 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: represent an awful lot of Texas. But and you know, 694 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: don't have any real power in the levers of the state. 695 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: But do you tend to stand up and in a 696 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: lot of cases like people did for some of these 697 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: these events in Dallas recently put their bodies, you know, 698 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: in between fascists and the people are threatening. And I 699 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: mean the new I F. B churches are definitely probably 700 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: more extreme, more explicit than most of your average Christian churches. 701 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: But it is not uncommon to preach this general strain 702 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: of homophobia. Maybe it turned down like one not of 703 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: the dial from the pulpit in the majority of of 704 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: of churches, specifically in the South. Um, yeah, we should 705 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: be lighting these people against wall and killing them. But 706 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: you say that, you know, this is not biblical. You 707 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: know we're supposed to live in a biblical society. And 708 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: you say everything, but that last like ten or yeah, 709 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: it's that it is. It is not like this strain 710 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: of homophobia is has been there this this entire time. Um, 711 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: and people of I feel like they have permission to 712 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: say things now that they honestly wouldn't probably wouldn't have 713 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: said as explicitly like five years ago. Um, but there 714 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: was there's always been people working to keep this thing 715 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: within the culture. As as stuff was progressing socially, there 716 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: was people working to keep this type of bigotry still 717 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: alive in large sectors of the American public. And a 718 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: lot of those sectors are related to Evangelical Christianity, and 719 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: a lot of those sectors are really related to the 720 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: communities around church building. So that's like a big part 721 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: and how Christian fascism has been so effective the past 722 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 1: that you know, like the basically the past decades, starting 723 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: starting with the Tea Party, is that they've had people 724 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: with vested interests like keeping this stuff afloat. I mean, uh, 725 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: Lips of TikTok receives her funding from Seth Dillon, the 726 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: guy who runs The Babylon b which started as a 727 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,919 Speaker 1: Christian satire site. Um like now Elon Musk's favorite place 728 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: on the Internet, which is wild, I mean, but but yeah, 729 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: like like you know, like I I remember reading The 730 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: Babylon B when I was like fucking twelve years old, 731 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: when I was like a Christian kid, like I it 732 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: was just like like It used to be just a small, 733 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: niche Christian site, and now it grew into this you know, 734 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 1: big powerful force in a modern conservatism. It is directly 735 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: funding lips of TikTok, which is basically now just a 736 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: gun that gets pointed at whatever, you know, target the 737 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: event that that they want. So it's now it's like 738 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: this completely like AstroTurf thing with all of this funding 739 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: and people choosing what events to target. So like it 740 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: all goes back to this, It all goes back to 741 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 1: these types of churches and this type of this type 742 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: of rhetoric coming out of you know, these few misinterpreted 743 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: biblical passages. It is weird, how Like I mean, when 744 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: I was, you know, a teenager, when you talked about 745 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: like Christian entertainment, Christian comedy, Christian music, Christian media, you 746 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: meant like the most boring milktoast ship and the planet. 747 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: Like not that there wasn't toxic and hateful ship within 748 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: being preached to churches, but like Christian media was like 749 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: it was pretty hard to be offended and most of it. 750 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: And now when you say that, like you immediately go 751 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 1: to like, oh, yeah, somebody's trying to get gay people murdered. Um. Yeah, 752 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: it's something else. Yeah, there's been a large increase in 753 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: the militancy of Christian propaganda and posing. You know, stuff 754 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: that used to be just very like very boring milk 755 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: like milk toast and like still very like you know, patriarchal, heteronormative, 756 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: you know, probably low key white supremacist um. Is now Yeah, 757 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: now lots of the propaganda is way more focused in 758 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: this type of like militant Christianity um and focused on 759 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 1: you know all all of like the end times stuff 760 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: has gotten so much more more of a thing um 761 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: and just how it relates to like physical violence against 762 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: currently living people anyway. Yeah, that's the that's the Steadfast 763 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: Baptist Church and the Sadamite deception um. Brought to you 764 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: by people out of Dallas. So yeah, those are my 765 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: those are my two episodes. I mean we started first 766 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: episode this week was part one. Last episode this week 767 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 1: is part two, so they're spread out, but those are 768 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: those are my two two episodes on the City of 769 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: the Homophobia and Christian Fascism inside the City of Hate. Look, 770 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: if you want to help out, find the addresses of 771 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 1: one of these churches. Now, the next thing you're gonna 772 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: do is you're going to find a good Torrent client 773 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: and you're going to download a DVD rip of Morbius. 774 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them out there. Then you're gonna 775 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: burn that. You may need to buy a burner. It's 776 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't gonna have this equipment. But 777 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna burn that onto a DVD. You can also 778 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,959 Speaker 1: put it on a flash drive if you really wanted. 779 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: And then you're just gonna start mailing those in mass 780 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: to the church. If we get them enough copies of Morbius, 781 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: I think we might be able to turn them around. 782 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: It Could Happen Here is a production of cool Zone Media. 783 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website 784 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: cool zone media dot com, or check us out on 785 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 786 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. 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