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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Kabi, I'm really excited for this episode because we

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Speaker 2: have got a fashion stylist coming on. I got excited.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to invite myself in. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think Alan's but Alan would fight me for this probably probably.

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Speaker 3: He is very like fashionable and I really like to

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Speaker 3: go rounds in the fashion department, so styling.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of, I got a you know, Ammy Paris. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was one of the things a little Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 2: He's I didn't even know that brand was. I love

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Speaker 2: him so much. Yes, but good ma'am. We have got

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Speaker 2: Jenny Lee coming on. She is a celebrity style so

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Speaker 2: she was a celebrity style so now she's got this

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Speaker 2: Style Club membership, and I'm really excited to hear more

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Speaker 2: about that because I just did something that I'm kind

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Speaker 2: of regretting a bit, maybe not regretting, but just it's

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Speaker 2: just it's it's something I.

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Speaker 3: Want to talk to her about. So let's uh, let's

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Speaker 3: get her on. Hey, you are a dream look at

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Speaker 3: your hair. Pink has so fun. I'm Jammy.

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Speaker 2: This is Kristen. Thank you so much for coming on.

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Speaker 2: The show.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so excited to be here. I was listening

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Speaker 1: to your other podcasts and getting really Oh I love.

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Speaker 2: Times they're a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I like how much you talk about sex?

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh goodness, creation of my favorite topics.

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Speaker 3: We're missing a co host and that is not one

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Speaker 3: of her favorite topics.

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Speaker 2: But that's okay. But you know what, we're excited to

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Speaker 2: just dive on in with this. I I have a problem.

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Speaker 2: I've had a lot of problems, but one of my

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Speaker 2: main problems is styling. I am I'm just I don't

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Speaker 2: have that gift like KB over here, she walks in

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Speaker 2: like Sarah Jessica Parker like to this morning. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: how did you walk to the coach? The accessories? Like

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Speaker 2: just putting it all together. I had to hire someone

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Speaker 2: about a month ago because I'm in my closet and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know how to put anything together.

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Speaker 2: I really don't. And I felt I felt wasteful doing that,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, like spending that money to do that.

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Speaker 2: But I when she put the ten or fifteen outfits together,

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, I would have never thought to

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Speaker 2: do that, but that looks so cute and it's easier,

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Speaker 2: like when we went to Valentine's Day dinner. I'm like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna pull on my little rolodex of things.

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Speaker 2: But you, you guys have a gift that like, well,

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Speaker 2: this is You're the guru, You're the magic.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting to me though, because I was reading your

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Speaker 3: background and I feel like we have similar there's a

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Speaker 3: couple of similarities, and I wonder if that helps us

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Speaker 3: create a brain where we feel more imaginative or something

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Speaker 3: like the not being able to afford things growing up

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Speaker 3: and creating a style of your own that has very

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Speaker 3: much something I experienced being influenced by Nana Kitty. I

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Speaker 3: didn't have a Nana Kitty, but I did have a

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Speaker 3: gram who was just everything. She was a broch wearing

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Speaker 3: scarf wearing accessorizing Chanel number five, magical human.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: She gave me like the passport.

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Speaker 3: You know, to be able to just she was like timeless,

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Speaker 3: but she also was she was on trend somehow always.

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Speaker 3: But she was just such a classic inspiring force. So

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Speaker 3: I kind of mean, maybe that's our best place to start,

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Speaker 3: because you are incredible and your your resume is massive.

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Speaker 2: I mean the celebrity clients, Angeline and Jolie, Greta Gerwig

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Speaker 2: hey back in Sale. I love her, I mean just

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Speaker 2: I mean Scarlet Johansson, Ryan p Felippe, so so many people,

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Speaker 2: Heath Ledger, oh Anny DeVito, Chris Pratt come on that affleck.

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Speaker 3: Lots of body types too, by the way, And I

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Speaker 3: was like, all right, well, I guess you don't have

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I want to just jump back to about you saying

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Speaker 1: that you felt wasteful in calling for help. And I

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Speaker 1: think that that's a real hurdle that so many people

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Speaker 1: so many children are sure they're encouraged to be creative,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so true though what you said, though we

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Speaker 2: guess it's because it seems like, well, that's something that

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Speaker 2: I didn't grow up knowing how to do that, like,

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Speaker 3: But you're so good in so many other things. That's

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Speaker 2: You know, she's creative.

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Speaker 3: She's an actress. I mean, how much more creative can

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Speaker 2: That's creativity. It's just not in this realm.

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Speaker 1: I've worked with a lot of actors, performers, different types

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Speaker 1: and I do believe actors really struggle in a way

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Speaker 1: or it's whatever it is, however you're going to break

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Speaker 1: of sometimes confusing to tap into that, but pull yourself back.

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Speaker 1: Look at all the facets that you have in your life, podcast,

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Speaker 1: that's that's it. Who's my audience and what do I

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Speaker 2: What is your thank you for that? I love? I

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Speaker 2: love that's great advice. What is one of your And

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Speaker 2: I know this is an objective objective? Is that the right? Well,

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Speaker 2: it's because I want to be like, what's one of

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Speaker 2: the Beause fashion tip fashion styling is it's you have

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Speaker 2: all objective, right Is that Is that the right kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So for you, what is something that you are like, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: No is it mixing the Oh? She had you know, like,

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Speaker 2: it that you will not offend us. She's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: All of those things are yes, it's actually immediately it

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Speaker 1: I just I hate them even on kids. I just

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Speaker 1: then they just like ramped up and got bigger and bigger,

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Speaker 2: And they're saying they're toxic too, now you know, because

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Speaker 2: they get are toxic? Yeah, because they're plastic and you're

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Speaker 1: I understand it logically, but esthetically it bothers me.

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Speaker 2: For the mom what is yours? So let's just pretend

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Speaker 2: You're like, I don't like this.

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Speaker 2: Oh, just just in general, like the mom's because I

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Speaker 2: feel like I'm I'm struggling. For example, I really wanted

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Speaker 2: So is there something that you're seeing that the thirty

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Speaker 1: I would say T shirts that have phrases like I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that well, because I think it got saturated. This

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Speaker 3: I do have for you. So I think recently this

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Speaker 2: want in telling me so tell all the listeners about it.

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Speaker 2: How can we get in? What are we getting? And yes,

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Speaker 2: I want to know all. It's a brilliant idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the ways that I've been working with people,

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Speaker 1: you know, this has kind of opened up during the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: was how can I keep helping clients? Was doing zoom

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Speaker 1: sessions and for a long time it was just one

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Speaker 1: did one of those like masterclasses where I did some

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Speaker 1: groups styling and they all the women in the room,

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Speaker 1: in the zoom room, they were all remarking on how

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Speaker 1: much they were learning just from watching other people get

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Speaker 1: styled by me, and also experiencing the act of witnessing,

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Speaker 1: like what is it like to have another body get

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Speaker 1: dressed and that's different from my body shape? And what

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Speaker 1: are the differences in the styling advice and what are

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Speaker 1: the things overlap. So I wanted to create something really accessible,

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Speaker 1: so I created Style Club. It's a group membership. I

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Speaker 1: have a cute little like platform where all the members

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Speaker 1: can share their their looks and get you know, really

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Speaker 1: quick critiques on how they styled it, what they can

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Speaker 1: do better. Anyone can say like I want a red

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Speaker 1: midi skirt that's pleated, and I'll go on the real

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Speaker 1: reel and I'll like find them, you know, five midi

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Speaker 1: skirts that hit their sweet spot in their size, and

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Speaker 1: I'll post it to the Style Club and then if

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Speaker 1: anyone else is like I want one, and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: here's a few more in your size. So I'm like

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Speaker 1: always encouraging people to shop resale.

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Speaker 2: How much is the membership.

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Speaker 1: The membership's eighty five dollars a month LUs, which is

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Speaker 1: a steal because a one on one session.

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Speaker 2: Is I can't even imagine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not unreasonable, especially virtual. It's I

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Speaker 1: do two hour sessions for five hundred dollars and then

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Speaker 1: in person sessions or three hundred dollars. So I think

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Speaker 1: compared to many many stylists, it's in the manageable range.

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Speaker 1: And I also take people shopping.

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Speaker 2: Are you still doing celebrity styling? Hor did you stop that?

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Speaker 1: I stopped it in the middle of the pandemic. I

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Speaker 1: just kind of hit my wall. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of changes happening in the fashion industry, and what

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Speaker 1: was beginning to happen is every job I did, I

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Speaker 1: was spending money. I wasn't making money anymore because the

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Speaker 1: budgets had shrunk and FedExing samples and magazines are paying

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Speaker 1: they pay very little to stylists for editorial. So once

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Speaker 1: I just felt like, this isn't doing it for me.

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Speaker 1: And at the same time, I was taking on these

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Speaker 1: private clients that weren't in the film or celebrity world,

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Speaker 1: and they were having these incredible breakthroughs like tears and

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Speaker 1: overcoming body just more and getting raises and them making

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Speaker 1: more money. Like I had a client who became a

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Speaker 1: millionaire during the time that we shifted her personal style

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Speaker 1: and really honed in on how she wanted to present

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Speaker 1: herself that I felt like, maybe this is the next

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Speaker 1: path for me to pivot to where I'm more fulfilled

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Speaker 1: emotionally and I don't necessarily get to tap into the

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Speaker 1: creative aspect of having editorials. I miss that, but I

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Speaker 1: don't miss any of the other things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you get to, you know, help people

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Speaker 2: on this membership and I think that's great, and that's yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's got to be way more fulfilling than more connected

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Speaker 2: celebrity being.

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Speaker 1: Like, hi went, it's changing lives.

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Speaker 3: I do want to know what's the one thing Jenny

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Speaker 3: Lee does, because you know, we all find like I

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Speaker 3: know the days where I dress and I'm like, this

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Speaker 3: isn't what I want to wear, Like I'm in a

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Speaker 3: funk all day. I can tell you know, what is

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Speaker 3: the what is the thing for you personally that you're

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Speaker 3: like it is like your go to your suite spot

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Speaker 3: if you add the other than your amazingly fabulous pink care.

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Speaker 3: If you add this or you do that, like what

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Speaker 3: is your one or maybe two? Just like little go

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Speaker 3: tos that just make you feel like you are back

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Speaker 3: in your alignment.

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Speaker 1: I think color it's funny because I'll wear all black

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Speaker 1: and I'll get a lot of compliments because it's always

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Speaker 1: chic and it looks polished and put together. But I

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Speaker 1: don't feel like as joyfully expressed them. When I wear color,

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Speaker 1: I feel happier, I would say. The other thing is

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Speaker 1: if I am having an emotionally or mentally low day,

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Speaker 1: I'll try to wear something that was my nana kitties,

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Speaker 1: and just like feeling that sort of connection to a

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Speaker 1: loved one that always kind of like helps as well.

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Speaker 2: I love you a little superhero. Well, Jenny Lee, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for coming on. I am definitely gonna

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Speaker 2: get on this membership because I just I love I

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Speaker 2: love y'all's types of brains that can pull things together,

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Speaker 2: and I just really appreciate you coming on. I could

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Speaker 2: talk to you forever, so thank you, Jenny.

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Speaker 1: I could talk to YouTube for my closet.

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Speaker 2: Jenny, get in, call me over.

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Speaker 3: I will we really need to you would be you'd

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Speaker 3: actually unfriend me if you saw my closet.

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Speaker 2: It's really horrendous.

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Speaker 1: So no, I wouldn't those like to me. That's so

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Speaker 1: much fun. It's the biggest challenge.

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Speaker 2: Well when you are in Nashville, let us know, because

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Speaker 2: double challenge. Yeah, definitely, I'm like a vampire.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to invite me in.

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Speaker 3: Invited, done, done, Okay, Yeah, we would sit on your

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Speaker 3: lap if that was appropriate right now. So just so

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Speaker 3: we're clear, you come to our closets and I just

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Speaker 3: I need a good purging.

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Speaker 1: Well, have a nice little like cuddly closet.

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Speaker 2: Ohn Jenny, you're the best. Thank you so much. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on. Everybody go check out the Style

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Speaker 2: Club membership and we appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they hire on Instagram. I'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, bye, b bye

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm