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Speaker 1: play of the Day, stat of the Day, all of
Speaker 1: that forthcoming. Michigan's win over Ohio State's going to have
Speaker 1: a huge impact on the college football playoff picture, but
Speaker 1: even more at stake for the Wolverines. After being dominated
Speaker 1: for an entire decade, Michigan got a measure of revenge.
Speaker 1: Beating up on the buck Ice Saturday was a great
Speaker 1: example what makes college football so special. You don't find
Speaker 1: that kind of emotion in the NFL, but what you
Speaker 1: saw in Ann Arbor, it's unlike any place else in
Speaker 1: American sports. These are the kind of games that mean
Speaker 1: more to more people. And the same could be said
Speaker 1: for Alabama that great comeback against Auburn in the iron Ball,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State fending off Oklahoma another wild finish. Rivalries and
Speaker 1: other sports have been watered down in recent years, They're
Speaker 1: still going strong when it comes to college football. I'm
Speaker 1: sure Wolverine fans won a couple more wins a national title,
Speaker 1: but even if that doesn't happen, there has to be
Speaker 1: a huge degree of celebration satisfaction and relieve by beating
Speaker 1: the Ohio State. I wasn't surprised. I thought that this
Speaker 1: was a Michigan team that matched up with Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Said that going into the game, and they were just
Speaker 1: a better team. They dominated Ohio State and Ohio State
Speaker 1: live and die by the pass, and they got manhandled,
Speaker 1: mauled when it came to the offensive line, defensive line
Speaker 1: as well, and they ran the football. I said that
Speaker 1: I didn't root one way or another other than if
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for content, Michigan winning is better content because
Speaker 1: now Jim Harball has got to win. Maybe now we
Speaker 1: have a rivalry. What this means bigger picture from Michigan
Speaker 1: going into the four they got to put away. I
Speaker 1: won the Big Ten title game. What this can mean
Speaker 1: for Michigan as we move forward, what happens to Ohio
Speaker 1: State and what's going to happen you know, when the
Speaker 1: smoke settles here. Alabama didn't have an impressive win. They
Speaker 1: in fact just held on for dear life. Auburn lost
Speaker 1: that game. It wasn't the feeling I had that Alabama
Speaker 1: won it that surprised me because I'm watching going Okay,
Speaker 1: when's Alabama gonna be Alabama and you're playing against a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback with Auburn. You score three points in fifty
Speaker 1: nine minutes, but Alabama wins that game, and that's what
Speaker 1: you have to do. Stay alive. Now you have Georgia
Speaker 1: coming up. They lose to Georgia, then they're out of
Speaker 1: the picture. If they beat Georgia, then it's going to
Speaker 1: get even more interesting here and those on the outside
Speaker 1: looking in. Does somebody still get a chance to get in?
Speaker 1: You still have these conference title games as well? Pole question, McLevin,
Speaker 1: what do you have today? Okay, I don't know how
Speaker 1: to word this exactly, but if you say that Michigan, Georgia,
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati are in, who do you think the committee
Speaker 1: would pick as a fourth team if they had the
Speaker 1: following options? A one loss Oklahoma State team, a one
Speaker 1: loss Notre Dame team, a two loss Alabama, or a
Speaker 1: two loss Ohio State. Is it obvious? I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: a one loss Notre Dame because you can still you
Speaker 1: can validate that, like, you can back that up a
Speaker 1: little bit. If you're gonna go, hey, we're putting in
Speaker 1: a two loss Alabama team, all right, you know you
Speaker 1: lose to Texas A and M and you lose to
Speaker 1: Georgia if that happens in the SEC tinal game. Ohio State,
Speaker 1: you know, you got blown out by Michigan. Now that
Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit different there. Notre Dame
Speaker 1: has been dominating teams. You know, granted they blew out
Speaker 1: a bad Stanford team, but I would think Notre Dame
Speaker 1: would be the team right now kind of hanging on
Speaker 1: the Priffrey. Yeah, po. Oklahoma State's got pretty tough schedule
Speaker 1: this year. They have one road loss at Iowa State
Speaker 1: by three points and they were winning the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: with three minutes to go. Baylor National TV this weekend.
Speaker 1: It's a TV show, Paul, I know, No, I agree,
Speaker 1: I'm talking. I think you're probably right. No, you're trying
Speaker 1: to go with hey, you got the credentials. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: always lean towards who's going to bring a bigger fan
Speaker 1: base here, Who's gonna put more eyeballs on these games?
Speaker 1: Who's going to care more about this? Nobody's gonna care
Speaker 1: nationally about Oklahoma State or Baylor, even if they are
Speaker 1: better teams, you know than Notre Dame. Yeah, the club, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've proven the pass by the Big twelve. We've seen
Speaker 1: that a couple of times. Yeah, all right, so we'll
Speaker 1: talk to Pat forties in college football, and USC gets
Speaker 1: their man, Lincoln Riley. You know, it felt like Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley's always his name comes up. He's only thirty eight,
Speaker 1: and I thought that he was going to go to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys a couple of years ago. I thought that
Speaker 1: that would have been a really good pick because he's
Speaker 1: developing these quarterbacks and that's what the NFL was all about.
Speaker 1: Takes over for Bob Stoops and you know, they don't
Speaker 1: miss a beat. And now who comes in to help
Speaker 1: out Oklahoma? Bob Stoops is going to coach Oklahoma in
Speaker 1: the bull game. Now there's gonna be names that you're
Speaker 1: gonna come up. You're gonna hear names that are not
Speaker 1: interested in Oklahoma as much as they're using Oklahoma to
Speaker 1: get a pay raise. That's what's happened. That happens every
Speaker 1: single year at this time. But a name that I
Speaker 1: was told keeping on, maybe Mark Stoops, Bob Stoops's brother,
Speaker 1: as a possibility there, Cliff Kingsbury's name will be floated about,
Speaker 1: probably by Cliff Kingsbury's agent, just so he can get
Speaker 1: a pay raise with the Arizona Cardinals. Yes, Seaton. So
Speaker 1: how does that process work? Right? Say you're hot shot
Speaker 1: NFL coach and maybe you're rumored for two college football jobs, right,
Speaker 1: does your agent just go into say the general manager's
Speaker 1: office and say, okay, so a lot of rumors getting
Speaker 1: some offers out there. What are we going to do
Speaker 1: to make this feel better? Is it that direct? Is
Speaker 1: it that blunt? Like? So LSU called we might take
Speaker 1: that job? Well, it feels like just like with James
Speaker 1: Franklin and USC and LSU, and I said, look, he
Speaker 1: hired an agent whose job, Jimmy Sexton, is to leverage
Speaker 1: the SEC and that's exactly what he did. He fell
Speaker 1: off the radar with USC. And it's like, uh, can
Speaker 1: I have my name in there? With LSU? LSU thought
Speaker 1: they had Lincoln Riley. They thought they had him. Whatever
Speaker 1: happened with USC Levinth Thauer and they got their man.
Speaker 1: Here is the press conference after Oklahoma lost Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1: Here is Lincoln Riley getting the question, Lincoln, are you
Speaker 1: shocked that you've gotten this far? Thought anybody asking you
Speaker 1: about all the rumors this week? I'm just I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you about it, so I might as well.
Speaker 1: It's NonStop. I mean, it's it's every day. Hold up, Kerry,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the next head coach at LSU.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you next question? Okay? And he's not,
Speaker 1: but he I think was going to be the next
Speaker 1: head coach at LSU. Yeah. See, there was like fifteen
Speaker 1: hours difference between that statement and the USC announcement. I know,
Speaker 1: I know if you're an Oklahoma fan, you're probably going,
Speaker 1: wait what, Well, I love the reporter being like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it is just NonStop, all these rumors, like what are
Speaker 1: you gonna you have to come back? This like almost
Speaker 1: like it's a huge problem. Just ask the question. He's
Speaker 1: a grown man, You're a grown man. Just asked the question, coach,
Speaker 1: how do you address these, uh, you know, rumors? And
Speaker 1: then if you want to get directed and say, you know,
Speaker 1: are you going to LSU? Have you been contacted by LSU?
Speaker 1: At least you're on record is saying it instead of
Speaker 1: saying and I know it's different when you're low cool
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see that coach and he's gonna see you,
Speaker 1: and you want to be friendly to the program, and
Speaker 1: I understand all those things. Although everybody's gonna be turning
Speaker 1: on Lincoln Riley. Now everybody was like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask the question here. Now they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I asked about you know, he said he wasn't going
Speaker 1: down my shoe. I didn't think about saying are you
Speaker 1: going to USC? Yeah? That was genius by Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 1: He jumped the question. He once the topic was up there,
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, I gotta put this to bed quick,
Speaker 1: and he jumped the reporter, getting specific and said, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to LSU, which he was telling the
Speaker 1: absolute truth when he probably told that line, and he
Speaker 1: didn't let them follow up with what about any other offers?
Speaker 1: Are you committed to OSU? He jumped the whole topic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know it was a passive aggressive question to
Speaker 1: begin with, and then he became just aggressive like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go grab it and I'm gonna put that to
Speaker 1: the side. Next question, Okay, is somebody gonna go what
Speaker 1: about what about USC? I give credit to USC. They
Speaker 1: kept it quiet and swooped in again Lincoln's it's a
Speaker 1: great hire. But I also think, you know, and some
Speaker 1: of the USC people too, that I spoke to be
Speaker 1: a text on Saturday said, oh my god, is this
Speaker 1: as good as we can get? And I said, yes
Speaker 1: it is. Who else are you thinking? You're not getting
Speaker 1: Nick Saban? Who did you think you were going to
Speaker 1: get Mike Tomlin. I think this was a great hire
Speaker 1: for them. If you want to re establish yourself, first
Speaker 1: of all, get a coach who's going to keep the
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in town. And Lincoln Riley's gonna help you
Speaker 1: because he does a lot of recruiting in LA And
Speaker 1: you've already got a five star commitment, you got, you
Speaker 1: got three guys who were going to go to Oaklhoma
Speaker 1: are gonna decommit, and then they're going to go to USC.
Speaker 1: You're already winning. But I also think if I'm Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley and I'm looking at the SEC, we're pretty good
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve. And you say I can get
Speaker 1: to a national title, gag. I got a better chance
Speaker 1: going to the Pac twelve with USC than I do
Speaker 1: going into the SEC playing simple. And I think that
Speaker 1: is the real story here. Lincoln Riley, small town guy
Speaker 1: go into the big city. I got. I got a
Speaker 1: chance going into the SEC that ain't the Big twelve,
Speaker 1: but the PAC twelve you got a chance. Yeah. Shouldn't
Speaker 1: the SEC be like the thing that's lowering you? Shouldn't
Speaker 1: you want to go coach in the SEC rather than
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, he's weekend and week out. I
Speaker 1: don't know. But if so, then if it's a dude
Speaker 1: that's scared to go to the SEC, is that really
Speaker 1: the guy that you want coaching for you. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's the reason, other than I think it
Speaker 1: and who's gonna say it, he's not gonna go coach
Speaker 1: or a quick question here, I know I gotta ask
Speaker 1: the question. Coach talking about it? Yeah, are you afraid
Speaker 1: of coaching in the SEC? Coach? Yes, McLean. I have
Speaker 1: a friend who's a USC fan, and I think they're
Speaker 1: all crazy because he's like, well, he can't be that
Speaker 1: good Oklahoma, let him walk. And he also said he
Speaker 1: inherited a great team at Oklahoma. I'm like, he went
Speaker 1: to four straight playoffs. Yeah, I can't believe they're not
Speaker 1: thrilled with this hire. It's um and I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I think they're not thrilled. I think they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: what else was out there? I think they're delusional to
Speaker 1: think that they were getting. But this is when you
Speaker 1: have a wish list of names and when you know
Speaker 1: you all of a sudden see all of these names, Well,
Speaker 1: these are the names that USC was interested in. Not
Speaker 1: necessarily those people were interested in UNC. They would throw
Speaker 1: out you know, as I mentioned dan Quinn. Dan Quinn's
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator for Dallas. Okay, they were interested in him.
Speaker 1: I don't dan Quinn was interested in them. They curious
Speaker 1: about Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin wasn't interested in USC. And
Speaker 1: that's where you get your hopes up. Like LSU. What
Speaker 1: does LSU do now? Because they thought they were getting
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley? Now who are you getting? And it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that there's not quality coaches out there, it's just
Speaker 1: in your mind. We look at the big ticket items.
Speaker 1: There are times when you'll see a coach and you'll go, man,
Speaker 1: that guy's pretty good. Well he was. He was a nobody.
Speaker 1: You didn't know him. Then all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: takes over and you go, oh, he can coach. We
Speaker 1: love to know the names that are interested in our
Speaker 1: alma maters, like we gotta have somebody better than that.
Speaker 1: We're USC, not always the case. Pat Fordy will join us,
Speaker 1: talk to him about who's LSU go all in on
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that hiring and is Lincoln Riley
Speaker 1: running two or running away from the SEC. That'll give
Speaker 1: Paul Feinbaum something to talk about today as if he
Speaker 1: needs anything. Yeah, Paul Hohich, Everyone's talk about anything you're
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Speaker 1: We got our play of the day, stat of the day,
Speaker 1: all of that forthcoming. Pat Forty, Sports Illustrated senior writer,
Speaker 1: He's an insider. I want to be a college football
Speaker 1: insider one day when I grow up, or maybe an
Speaker 1: outsider is what I'm probably considered an outsider by the way,
Speaker 1: I just found out what LSU offered Lincoln Riley. You
Speaker 1: guys want a guest closest to the whole. Then we'll
Speaker 1: get to Pat Forty, who was at the Alabama auber
Speaker 1: In game. Mclovin ten million, ten million, Fritzie, I'm about
Speaker 1: to say eight and a head, eight and a half,
Speaker 1: Seaton ug eight eight, Paulie, twelve million dollars. Just found
Speaker 1: out Lincoln Riley offered twelve million dollars. Dang. I don't
Speaker 1: know what USC offered, but I'm going to guess housing
Speaker 1: was included. Let's bring in Pat, forty Sports illustrated senior
Speaker 1: writer and a college football insider. Good morning, Pat. A
Speaker 1: lot to digest over the weekend. Where are you going
Speaker 1: to start? Let's start with Lincoln Riley. Gotta start it there.
Speaker 1: I mean, the biggest like college to college coaching move
Speaker 1: I can remember. You know, usually people don't leave Oklahoma
Speaker 1: unless they're retiring, maybe going to the NFL, maybe a
Speaker 1: scandal chase them out to go leave Oklahoma for another
Speaker 1: job is remarkable, and I think it says a lot
Speaker 1: dan about where Oklahoma is heading. And I'd say Lincoln Riley, well,
Speaker 1: he may be running to the beach and LA, he's
Speaker 1: also running away from the SEC. And I don't blame him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I brought that up, and I don't know, I haven't heard,
Speaker 1: but I just figured if you had a chance to
Speaker 1: play for a national championship or continue your run, you
Speaker 1: got a better chance at USC than I think you
Speaker 1: do take an Oklahoma into the SEC. Is that fair
Speaker 1: to say, though? Yeah, I mean I think it's fair
Speaker 1: to say certainly I will hear what he says at
Speaker 1: the press conference today, although i'd imagine, you know, it's
Speaker 1: going to be all about why USC is a wonderful place,
Speaker 1: which it is. But what's the one thing that has changed.
Speaker 1: It's where Oklahoma is going to make its conference affiliation,
Speaker 1: and he changed when that changed. So I look at
Speaker 1: it and say, all the advantages that he had at
Speaker 1: Oklahoma in terms of being able to dominate a conference,
Speaker 1: recruit where you want and who you want, less competition,
Speaker 1: less you know, just bloodthirsty weekend and week out battles,
Speaker 1: and you can still play for a national championship, especially
Speaker 1: if and when we get the expanded playoff, which should
Speaker 1: be soon. I'd go to USC as well. How blindsided
Speaker 1: was Oklahoma? I think they were pretty blindsided. You know.
Speaker 1: I talked to somebody there last week who took great Umbridge,
Speaker 1: and I really I was inquiring about LSU because that's
Speaker 1: where the smoke was. But it took great Umberage. So
Speaker 1: why do people always say that our coaches would leave?
Speaker 1: They said that about Bob Stoops need to leave. Now
Speaker 1: they're saying about Lincoln. I don't think he's gonna leave.
Speaker 1: There's no indication he's gonna leave, then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he's going to leave. So it's something at the
Speaker 1: very end of the week, whether it's Friday, whether it's Saturday.
Speaker 1: I think things started to percolate and there became a
Speaker 1: little bit of turbulence there. But I don't think Oklahoma
Speaker 1: saw this coming until very late in the game. All Right,
Speaker 1: what's Oklahoma do? What's LSU do? Pooh? Those are great questions.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that Bob stoop steps in is
Speaker 1: the interim and he may just do like Barry Alvrez did,
Speaker 1: just say, Look, I'm gonna coach this bowl game and
Speaker 1: enjoy it and that's it. What if Bob steps says,
Speaker 1: you know what, I like this, I'd like to stay.
Speaker 1: I'd like to be the head coach. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that's out of the question. I know the
Speaker 1: release from Oklahoma yesterday did not say I am only
Speaker 1: coaching the bowl game period, just said he would be
Speaker 1: the interim coach for the bowl game. If not him, hey,
Speaker 1: his brother is doing a heck of a job at
Speaker 1: Kentucky and maybe realizing he's scraping the ceiling of what
Speaker 1: Kentucky could do. What better place to go than Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Have the backing of your legendary brother there, who knows
Speaker 1: everyone and everything about that program. The other option, I
Speaker 1: think Matt Campbell, who's at Iowa State and has had
Speaker 1: five straight winning seasons there, which hadn't happened at that
Speaker 1: school since the nineteen twenties. So I think that's where
Speaker 1: that list starts. LSU, I don't know, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops could be in play there. I still have
Speaker 1: some people saying that they may take a last ditch
Speaker 1: swing at jimbo Fitcher. There's been some talk about NFL candidates,
Speaker 1: but the LSU situation has gotten really intriguing. All right,
Speaker 1: let's look at what you think the playoff rankings are
Speaker 1: going to look like tomorrow night, and then let's handicap
Speaker 1: as we move into the following weekend. So how's it
Speaker 1: play out tomorrow night? I think Georgia one, Michigan two,
Speaker 1: probably Cincinnati three, and then the real intrigue. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you can probably have Alabama still in there. I would
Speaker 1: say that whether the three or four, the intrigue to
Speaker 1: me is who's going to be five and six and
Speaker 1: in what order between Notre Dame and Oklahoma State because
Speaker 1: I anticipate Alabama losing to Georgia and opening up that
Speaker 1: fourth spot and then is it Notre Dame or is
Speaker 1: it Oklahoma State. And I do think it's interesting that
Speaker 1: in both of the human polls the top twenty five
Speaker 1: so that Oklahoma State jumped ahead of Notre Dame in
Speaker 1: those and so people maybe kind of setting the stage there,
Speaker 1: especially since Notre Dame doesn't have another game, for Oklahoma
Speaker 1: State to slide into that fourth spot if Alabama does lose.
Speaker 1: The fallout from Michigan's win is what. It's huge, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean just massive for Jim Harbaugh's finest day obviously
Speaker 1: in that job, something they've been waiting for for six years,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think ever since that fourth and
Speaker 1: one spot for JT. Barrett in twenty sixteen, his program
Speaker 1: stalled and then declined, and now this shoots it back
Speaker 1: up with a vengeance and they're sixty minutes away against
Speaker 1: Iowa if they don't have a letdown from going to
Speaker 1: the playoff. And let's be frank, Michigan has been a
Speaker 1: great program for a long time, but they haven't been
Speaker 1: a national championship competitor in a long time. It's been
Speaker 1: quite a while, and now they've got a shot to
Speaker 1: do it. You finally get over on your nemesis, you
Speaker 1: get into the playoff, you take those defensive ends in
Speaker 1: that running game, take your chances against anybody. How valuable though,
Speaker 1: do you think that Alabama win over Auburn is in
Speaker 1: the eyes of the playoff committee? I don't think it's
Speaker 1: super valuable, you know. I mean it's it's it kept
Speaker 1: him from being eliminated, But that was a life and
Speaker 1: death struggle to be to six and sixteen. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I look at them. I have not been that hold
Speaker 1: on Alabama all year. I would certainly have them no
Speaker 1: higher than fourth right now, and possibly fifth or sixth
Speaker 1: in my rankings. I just I think that they are
Speaker 1: missing obviously a lot of incredible talent from last year's team,
Speaker 1: but I think a little bit of the just veteran
Speaker 1: leadership to the win with that that's gotten into some
Speaker 1: really some close, tough games against mediocre competition. What if
Speaker 1: Alabama beats Georgia. Alabama beats Georgia, then I think the
Speaker 1: playoffs pretty easy. Then if the other games go according
Speaker 1: to plan, it's George, It's Alabama. It's Michigan at Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: and then I mean you could have an argument. I
Speaker 1: suppose for Oklahoma State versus Cincinnati, that would be where
Speaker 1: the tension would lie. We always gotta have some tension, Dan,
Speaker 1: even if we got to make it up on the
Speaker 1: last day. But if Alabama wins, then the SEC gets
Speaker 1: too in and everybody starts complaining about that. I just
Speaker 1: got my Heisman paperwork. Who is the leading candidate? Do
Speaker 1: we have it? It's like the MVP in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I know, if we have a leading candidate and with
Speaker 1: the Heisman, you know, is Bryce Young the Heisman winner?
Speaker 1: De facto Heisman winner? I don't know. He was bad
Speaker 1: for fifty eight and a half minutes and he was great,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, honestly, I look at it this
Speaker 1: way is usually the best players on the best teams
Speaker 1: become the Heisman favorites as long as they're offensive players.
Speaker 1: This year, the best players on the whole top six
Speaker 1: are all defensive players. George's best players Jordan Davis, He's
Speaker 1: a nose tackle. Michigan's best players Aidan Hutchinson, He's a
Speaker 1: defensive end. Alabama's best player is probably Will Anderson. The linebacker,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sauce Gardner probably there, Notre Dame Kyle Hamilton and
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State Malcolm Rodriguez linebacker. I say, let's just put
Speaker 1: a one, two, three defensive players on the Heisman ballot
Speaker 1: and burn the whole players down. I like it. I
Speaker 1: like it. I would love to be able to give
Speaker 1: and I've been on this kick for a long long time.
Speaker 1: I go back to when the Broncos beat the Backers
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. The Bronchos offensive line won that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But you can't make them MVPs. You have
Speaker 1: to give it to one person. George's defensive unit. I mean,
Speaker 1: can we give him little Heisman's I'd be in favor
Speaker 1: of that, because that's the thing. I mean, like Jordan
Speaker 1: Davis is the best player, but his stats are minischool
Speaker 1: because he's a nose guard. What he does is just
Speaker 1: come up the line and everybody else makes the tackles.
Speaker 1: You know, So yeah, they I mean, it's tough to quantify,
Speaker 1: but they deserve it. That is by far the best
Speaker 1: unit in America either side of the ball, and really
Speaker 1: they're on like historic record setting pace. What game you're
Speaker 1: going to next weekend? I will be in Atlanta for
Speaker 1: the time and the Bulldogs safe travels is always Pat,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. We appreciate your time, my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Damn thank you. That's Pat forteen Sports Illustrated senior writer.
Speaker 1: He was at the Alabama Auber game. He's known as
Speaker 1: a college football insider. Yes, Paul, guys, I just think
Speaker 1: we have to focus, even though it's Monday, to get
Speaker 1: next Saturday completely off from any family responsibilities. Baylor, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: State is new and Eastern Okay, there's there's four hours
Speaker 1: of your life. Yeah, George, Alabama's four o'clock, then you
Speaker 1: got Michigan Iowa at eight o'clock, and you still have
Speaker 1: some other good games, So you have a probably a
Speaker 1: thirteen hour window you have to clear for Saturday. We
Speaker 1: as a as a people, see, I have to pick
Speaker 1: my spots. So it's it's more stealth like I can
Speaker 1: kind of slip in for forty five minutes and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, I have to go
Speaker 1: do uh, get ornaments or decorations or you know, cut
Speaker 1: down a tree or something, and then I come back in.
Speaker 1: But you know, all the while, I'm you know, maintaining
Speaker 1: some contact with via my phone, Yeah, McLeman Pitt Wake
Speaker 1: Forest at night, eight o'clock. That's going to be wild.
Speaker 1: Seen both those offensive scores like forty five points a game,
Speaker 1: Kenny pick at Sam Hartman maybe dark Horse Shisman guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when they're dark Horse, doesn't mean they're gonna win. But
Speaker 1: what do you think, Pat forty say it's three defensive five.
Speaker 1: I would love it. I have no problem with that.
Speaker 1: Have you ever put a defensive guy down? Do you
Speaker 1: remember off Man tie tail? Oh? Boy, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: in Dominican Sue they put him down. Yeah, play and yeah.
Speaker 1: The other move is to take the wife or girlfriend
Speaker 1: out on Friday night to set up a clean Saturday,
Speaker 1: as we like to call it. But you have Oregon
Speaker 1: us O, Oregon Utah Pactrol title Game APM on Friday night.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good too, sneaky early dinner early, yeah, six
Speaker 1: six o'clock, back at seven forty five. Yeah, settle in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so where you go? Ah, I don't know what's on TV?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a big all that that big game
Speaker 1: is like you gotta say it loud enough so it
Speaker 1: kind of resonates through the house. Oh okay, Oregon Utah.
Speaker 1: And then My wife would run in and go, what
Speaker 1: what what's going on? Oregon is playing Utah? Not all
Speaker 1: about that? Yes? Yeah? Is it? Is it a big deal? Well?
Speaker 1: You know the PAC twelve? Yeah. See. My wife can
Speaker 1: usually tell based on my posture what's happening, because I'll
Speaker 1: be sitting watching the game and she'll walk in the
Speaker 1: room and look at me and be like, is this
Speaker 1: what we're doing today? Yep? This is pretty much what
Speaker 1: we got going on. All right. Yeah, you're like, I
Speaker 1: gotta watch Cincinnati Houston and your wife's like, this an
Speaker 1: NFL game all today, Bob Marcus Jones, you gotta watch Mark. Now.
Speaker 1: She would have no idea Sincecinnati Houston was a college
Speaker 1: or pro game. But that's why I love about her.
Speaker 1: We don't talk sports. It's great, yes, pall, how about
Speaker 1: this idea? Maybe the wives could start like a registry
Speaker 1: and if we want to watch a certain game cleanly,
Speaker 1: we just buy something. It's a transaction. It's like a
Speaker 1: deal like it. So let's say my wife puts a
Speaker 1: sweater up and says, okay, Baylor Oklahoma sweater. I'm fine
Speaker 1: with that. I'll buy a sweater. So, like a wedding
Speaker 1: registry exactly, a sports registry. Oh you know like uh,
Speaker 1: Creighton Beryl, Yeah, Williams Sonoma, I'll buy it tsw onedre
Speaker 1: dollar blender to watch Michigan. That doesn't bother me. All right,
Speaker 1: what's the full question? I gotta get some phone calls
Speaker 1: in here. Okay, do you want to do a college
Speaker 1: football one who is on the outside looking in it
Speaker 1: could get into the final four? Or do you want
Speaker 1: to do I haven't given you the NFL MVP vote,
Speaker 1: but that's you think the Heidsman's hard. The NFL MVP
Speaker 1: makes no sense whatsoever. Well, I'm thinking Tom Brady is
Speaker 1: probably the leading candidate right now, probably, but does he
Speaker 1: feel like he's having an MVP year? He went over
Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns, so I don't know. Yeah, see, he's only
Speaker 1: like six or seven interceptions away from a career worse though.
Speaker 1: Wow saying just saying, yeah, that was Seaton's big prediction
Speaker 1: that Tom would have a career high in interceptions this season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, there's still time, There's still time. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: one of those weekends where you know, some of these
Speaker 1: games like that game last night, Round's Ravens. If I
Speaker 1: paid for it, I'd want my money back. That's one
Speaker 1: of the worst games I've ever seen. And Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: foreign receptions that Cleveland defense does an unbelievable job. And
Speaker 1: here we are again with the Cleveland Browns. I have
Speaker 1: no idea who they are. They may not have any idea.
Speaker 1: And then I look at the Ravens and as much
Speaker 1: as I like Lamar because he's unique and John Harball
Speaker 1: is a great coach, I just don't know if they're
Speaker 1: a super Bowl caliber team, but they're in the AFC.
Speaker 1: Who's the super Bowl caliber team, Patriots. I thought they'd
Speaker 1: be a playoff team. Now, all of a sudden, super
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber Buffalo very impressive win against the Saints. Titans
Speaker 1: not so much. They need a bye week, but you're
Speaker 1: you know, Canson. I go back to my prediction starting
Speaker 1: the year Kansas City versus Green Bay, and I still
Speaker 1: feel good about that. And what I saw with Green Bay,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how they're doing it because
Speaker 1: they are really banged up offensive line, you know, everything
Speaker 1: that's happened to them. They've lost two games, you know,
Speaker 1: and the one was without Aaron Rodgers. But the Rams
Speaker 1: come in and you keep waiting for the Rams to
Speaker 1: be the Rams, whatever that is. I still think running
Speaker 1: the football. Like there's teams where you just say, like
Speaker 1: the Niners. Kyle Shanahan's an offensive minded guy. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say genius. We throw that term around, you know,
Speaker 1: Sean McVay offensive genius. Well, you can't be a guy
Speaker 1: who runs the football and be an offensive genius. How
Speaker 1: many offensive geniuses have a great running attack, Like we go, Man,
Speaker 1: that guy is an offensive genius. It's got to be
Speaker 1: five wide. We got to throw the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: We got to go vertical. Kyle Shanahan has suppressed his
Speaker 1: ego in the last three games, and he runs the
Speaker 1: football and they're winning. To me, green Bay they they
Speaker 1: try to run the football. The Rams they don't make
Speaker 1: an attempt to run the football. And there are times
Speaker 1: when you go, maybe run the football a little bit
Speaker 1: more because it feels like green Bay Secondary. Everybody had
Speaker 1: a chance for an interception yesterday and maybe Matthew Stafford's hurt,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield hurt. But you know you can't Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: They had they had a run designed play on a
Speaker 1: third and one with Baker Mayfield. The last person I
Speaker 1: want running with the football? Is him right now? Exactly
Speaker 1: what the defense was like? Yeah, I said, they're never
Speaker 1: gonna expect her franchise quarterback getting the ball. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: then they did. Yes, mcloban. There's a play in that
Speaker 1: game where the Browns had twelve men on the field,
Speaker 1: so they called a time out. They came out after
Speaker 1: the timeout at twelve men on the field. Again. It
Speaker 1: took like we were all confused on that play. I
Speaker 1: don't know what was happening. See, you're missing the point.
Speaker 1: They want to play, yes, like we really want to play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to get out there. You know what. These
Speaker 1: guys are so fired up. I can't keep them on
Speaker 1: the sidelines. They're trying to put themselves in the get
Speaker 1: put me in, coach. I'm ready to play today. Look
Speaker 1: at me. Oh. It's a baseball song, also cover Mark
Speaker 1: Andrews the Ravens tight Ends. He's a one man, the
Speaker 1: only guy I worry about if I play the Ravens,
Speaker 1: It's the only guy I worry about. And Lamar had
Speaker 1: an unbelievable touchdown. You see, I look at Lamar the
Speaker 1: way I do Derrick Henry. There's nobody like them now.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, although they went away from the running game yesterday.
Speaker 1: Didn't understand that the Patriots or the Buccaneers game plan
Speaker 1: was don't let Jonathan Taylor beat us. And then the
Speaker 1: Colts said, oh, okay, we won't let him beat you.
Speaker 1: We won't give him the ball in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: I just didn't understand it. But running the football this
Speaker 1: time of the year, and I gotta I gotta keep
Speaker 1: the ball out of Carson when his hand, Like I
Speaker 1: need less reps for Carson Wentz. You know, I can't
Speaker 1: he fumble two interceptions. I just I can't. And you
Speaker 1: know what was painful watching yesterday? Cam Newton, he's fascinating,
Speaker 1: he's content, but he's not a starting quarterback. And I
Speaker 1: know that he's come in and he's got to get
Speaker 1: to know the offense. And it's a real struggle. When
Speaker 1: you're watching, you're like, wow, he's not good and he
Speaker 1: wasn't yesterday. Painful Caroline is you're gonna be back in
Speaker 1: the market and you've got to get yourself a quarterback
Speaker 1: and you missed out this past year. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: take a break. We got our play the day coming up,
Speaker 1: and we have your phone calls. Best and worst through
Speaker 1: the weekend. We'll try to do both next. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: Bob Stoops will not return to the Big noon kickoff
Speaker 1: for the remainder of the twenty twenty one season as
Speaker 1: he leaves to pursue other responsibility. Now that was Friday Night.
Speaker 1: He's nine years younger than Nick Saban, he's going to
Speaker 1: coach them in the bowl game. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that means he wants to sign back up and coach
Speaker 1: Oklahoma again. I had been told Mark Stoops might be
Speaker 1: a guy that they would reach out to. He's done
Speaker 1: a really good job at Kentucky. Bob's brother Pat Forty
Speaker 1: said that, you know, about a half hour ago, but
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Lincoln Riley took the entire staff with him to USC.
Speaker 1: He knuked that situation. Albert Breer, Sports Illustrated writer, I
Speaker 1: can't remember a college football program ever getting absolutely nuked
Speaker 1: the way Oklahoma. Oklahoma has over the last twelve hours,
Speaker 1: so much torn to the ground. Five Star twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three quarterback Malachee Nelson has decommitted from Oklahoma. Malachi Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley has already called him on half of USC. So,
Speaker 1: Malachi Nelson, do you committed from Oklahoma? Yampol, You know,
Speaker 1: Bob Stoops is sixty one years old. While that seems
Speaker 1: old ish, he's nine years younger than Nick Saban. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He may have. You know, he may not have expected
Speaker 1: the chance to go back to Oklahoma ever presented somelf. Well,
Speaker 1: this is where they reach out and they say, can
Speaker 1: you help us or your brother or both? But this
Speaker 1: oklhoma got roughed up, and now you're going into the
Speaker 1: SEC in a couple of years. Who man does oklhoma
Speaker 1: and USC do they play it anytime soon? I'm curious
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, Paul, how about that as a new
Speaker 1: college football rule? If you take off coach from on
Speaker 1: the other team, you have to play that team the
Speaker 1: next year. If you were in charge of college football that, yes,
Speaker 1: I would I would do that, all right. Mark in
Speaker 1: New York leads this off best and worst of the weekend. Hey,
Speaker 1: good morning. My worst is a Dallas Cowboys defense. Gee,
Speaker 1: don't they can make it? Tackle is when they were
Speaker 1: interfering with the passages. And the best was Thanksgiving Day.
Speaker 1: I had to kids and the grandkids over. We're all
Speaker 1: eaton and they lined up at our little buffet and
Speaker 1: they're putting turkey on their plates and all this, and
Speaker 1: I just started laughing, going, oh, no, dog's gonna need
Speaker 1: all thanks. I heard from so many people about separating food,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark, separating your food on the plate, and
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not the way it happened for me.
Speaker 1: It was like spillover. You know, it was almost like
Speaker 1: my food was the crowded ann arbor where it just
Speaker 1: all went onto the field. That's what my plate looked
Speaker 1: like on Thanksgiving, and I was proud of that. Barry
Speaker 1: in Long Island, Hey Barry, good morning, fellows. I hope
Speaker 1: you all had a happy Thanksgiving, except for Seaton, who
Speaker 1: on Wednesday had the audacity to pare me with that
Speaker 1: comy food separatist Doug from wherever he's from. I'll have
Speaker 1: you know that my Thanksgiving plate looked like a roor
Speaker 1: shock test to Mayhem. So let's just have that. I
Speaker 1: will not do the defamation of carrot. Okay, but best
Speaker 1: of the weekend my Jets Jets Jets Jets beat the
Speaker 1: equally n F to Houston Texans. Worst of the weekend,
Speaker 1: my Islanders schedule put on hold. They have I think
Speaker 1: ten people ten players in COVID protocol and that amazing.
Speaker 1: It's still a story, still an issue in sports. You
Speaker 1: saw that with Michigan States football team. There was a
Speaker 1: little moment with the Ohio State Michigan game that I
Speaker 1: don't know if many people caught, but I did. Understanding
Speaker 1: this rivalry for most of my life, here is Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 1: So this is after the win. Ryan Day took over
Speaker 1: for Urban Meyer. And you know, you walk into a
Speaker 1: program like that, nominating people walk into a program like that,
Speaker 1: it's already that's where you walk into Thanksgiving and the turk.
Speaker 1: He's just coming out of the oven. Everything is ready.
Speaker 1: Here is Jim Harball. I think taking a shot at
Speaker 1: Ryan Day, the Ohio State head coach. Let's move on
Speaker 1: with humbold Hearts, take the high road. But yeah, this
Speaker 1: there's definitely stuff that you know, people said that spurred
Speaker 1: us on even more. Sure. Sometimes people that are standing
Speaker 1: on third base think they hit a triple. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they didn't. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's pretty
Speaker 1: good taking a shot at Ryan Day. Like, dude, you're
Speaker 1: on third base. They handed over the franchise at Ohio State. Harball.
Speaker 1: Harball has had that one in his holster for a
Speaker 1: long time. He's had to wait a few years to
Speaker 1: drop that one. Yeah, people, you know, wake up on
Speaker 1: third base. I'm gonna tell you about the triple they hit.
Speaker 1: Tom and Brown good joints us Hi Tom? What's on
Speaker 1: your mind today? Good morning? DP. First, want to give
Speaker 1: a shout out to the back row of Haronica Semia
Speaker 1: Happy Harnika guy got a worse than two best of
Speaker 1: the weekend. Worst was the Braska football snatching yet another
Speaker 1: defeat away from the job of victory, using nine games
Speaker 1: by single digits and eight by a single score. It
Speaker 1: was so bad somebody even changed the Wikipedia page of
Speaker 1: Memorial Stadium to include the title Kinnock West. That is
Speaker 1: a true story. First best was your Dayton Flyers beating
Speaker 1: Kansas at the Buser down to Florida. That was awesome,
Speaker 1: awesome to see a neighbor and former conference member lose
Speaker 1: for a change. And last best, of course was Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: You guys had one of my favorite segments ever a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. While saying spatch talk and Sean's honry accents,
Speaker 1: buddy of mine could not stop laughing. He even made
Speaker 1: a Sean Connery gift to that effect. It's hilarious T
Speaker 1: shirt idea question mark wrap it up. I also spatchcalk
Speaker 1: a turkey for this Thanksgiving weekend and it went great,
Speaker 1: best if he ever had. Though. I couldn't stop saying
Speaker 1: spatch talk in an accent, and very quickly my wife
Speaker 1: was pretty over it. Thank you, Thank you, thank you?
Speaker 1: Who did the best Sean Connery impersonation? Is it? Seaton spatcalk,
Speaker 1: Very very simple, very very to the point. All right,
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