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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to the Hammer Territory podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Scott Coleman and I am joined on the show today

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Speaker 1: by Stephen Tolbert and Steven We were going to have

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Speaker 1: a busy show today with the Braves announcing a new

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Speaker 1: television network, but we got more news. We have a

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Speaker 1: Chris Sale contract extension as well to talk about. We're

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Speaker 1: going to dig into all of it. Let's jump right

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Speaker 1: into Chris Sale. A one year contract extension twenty seven

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Speaker 1: million dollars for the year twenty twenty seven, so the

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Speaker 1: Braves will have Sale for at least two more seasons.

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Speaker 1: There's also a club option for thirty million bucks in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. Braves have locked up their ace for

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Speaker 1: at least the next two years, if not three. What

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Speaker 1: was kind of your immediate reaction as the news broke

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Speaker 2: What's up, buddy? So we got the news early this morning.

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Speaker 2: Is like right after the TV news the news drop

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Speaker 2: that they were signing Chris Sale. And we talked about

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Speaker 2: this a bunch over the offseason, that this was a possibility.

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Speaker 2: Springtime is when extensions happen. Chris Sale was a very

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Speaker 2: obvious extension. Candidate because he was going into his last

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Speaker 2: year team control. You typically don't have guys start the

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Speaker 2: season without a contract for the upcoming year unless you

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Speaker 2: plan on them walking, and I'm positive the Braves had

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Speaker 2: no interest in Chris Sale walking, so I kind of

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Speaker 2: had my intenta up for this at some point. The

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Speaker 2: details were always going to be the fascinating part. It's

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Speaker 2: a really good contract. I mean, you know, obviously the

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Speaker 2: headline is the Braves are spending more money on Chris

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Speaker 2: Sale on an AAV basis than they've ever spent on

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Speaker 2: any player before, which is twenty seven May in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. But just on value, getting an ACE for

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Speaker 2: twenty seven million bucks is a bargain. Quite frankly, it

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Speaker 2: just is. I know it doesn't sound like it, and

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Speaker 2: I know Chris is older and it has got injury stuff,

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Speaker 2: but guys at his level get paid a lot more

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Speaker 2: than that. So this is a fantastic deal for the Braves.

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Speaker 2: So it's a one plus one and it's an add

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Speaker 2: on to his existing deal. Because I had people asking

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Speaker 2: does this affect their luxury tax their av for this year,

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't because it's just tacked onto the end

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Speaker 2: It's in twenty twenty seven, it'll it'll bump up to

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. And then if they end up picking up

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty eight option, I think it was at

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Speaker 2: thirty million, then the av for those two years changes,

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Speaker 2: but it doesn't touch this year. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: fantastic deal. They have to keep Chris Sale. The state

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Speaker 2: of their pitching staff being what it is, We're not

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Speaker 2: going to go through all that today, but they don't

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Speaker 2: really have a healthy ace ready to go for next

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Speaker 2: year if they let Chris Sale walk. So getting Chris

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Speaker 2: Sale locked up for two more years at a very

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Speaker 2: reasonable number, I don't know how you can think anything

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Speaker 2: other than this is a fantastic deal for the Braves.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's I want to give a tip of

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Speaker 1: the cap to Austin Kane Reach, who is a writer

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Speaker 1: over at battery power dot com, And Austin pointed out,

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Speaker 1: so sure, twenty seven million dollars a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: and potentially thirty million dollars the following year a lot

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Speaker 1: of money for Chris Sale. But this is I mean,

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Speaker 1: a sale for the Braves on Chris Sale, because if

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Speaker 1: you compare Chris Sale's new contract to what Max Scherzer

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Speaker 1: got at age thirty eight, Sureser got a three year,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed deal a couple

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Speaker 1: of offseasons ago that also had a player option and

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Speaker 1: the course of their careers, Max Shure's is probably a

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Speaker 1: little better than Chris Sale, but similar ages, similar levels

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Speaker 1: end of it. Similarly, Justin Verlander when he was forty

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Speaker 1: the Braves. I know a lot of people who have

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Speaker 1: That is a boatload of cash. But Sale has always

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Speaker 2: Want to remember, the Braves has already gotten a steal

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Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty four, his first year, the Braves

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Speaker 2: he's making like eighteen. Like these are steals for a

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: And Chris did a little like a little sixty second

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Speaker 2: he said it came together very quickly. Him and Alex

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Speaker 2: He said, took like less less than a week. There

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Speaker 2: So clearly a lot of motivation on both sides for

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Speaker 2: Brace fans love Chris. Chris is only he's only been

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Speaker 2: here two years. This will be his third year. Already

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite Braves of all time, quite honestly,

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Speaker 2: Like he is everything I want in a not only

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Speaker 2: He's just all about baseball all the time, very no nonsense.

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Speaker 2: You know, his interviews are hysterical because he's just you know,

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Speaker 2: I want every pitch, I'm not gonna I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: just a very funny, blunt, straightforward dude, and that's what

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Speaker 2: I want in my ACE. The Braves have gotten unbelievable

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Speaker 2: bargains every year that they've had Chris. It's going to

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Speaker 2: closer to where probably his market value is. Like Chrisdale

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Speaker 2: obviously Ronnie's deal is gonna be the one that we

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Speaker 2: what Christale is worth. But the Braves did very very

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you look at this contract for sale. Now

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Speaker 1: the twenty two million dollar internal cap for the team

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Speaker 1: has been broken, and Chris Sale feels like a reasonable

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Speaker 1: respect of the clubhouse, good human, Like I know Chris Cotelo,

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Speaker 1: So now for years it was that twenty two million

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Speaker 1: it feels like that cap has been lifted. And now,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be the new cap in the clubhouse

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Speaker 1: and what that'll do for Alex in the front office

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest. I never put a lot of

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Speaker 2: there was always report like Freddie Freeman's like original like

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Speaker 2: So I don't think it was ever a hard cap.

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Speaker 2: just a number they felt comfortable with. But I think

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Speaker 2: And listen, he's got a thirty million dollar option for

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Speaker 2: so it's been so negative around the pitching staff since

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Speaker 2: at least two more years, potentially three, and they could

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Speaker 2: you know, this is essentially the Charlie Morton where they

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Speaker 2: just kept doing a one plus one one plus one

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Speaker 2: long as Sale maintains his production, they just keep doing that.

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Speaker 2: So I would love for him to retire brave. I

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Speaker 2: would love for that to be in like five years,

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Speaker 2: not necessarily in two because I wasn't sure, Like, and

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Speaker 2: there was those questions were gonna like he was gonna

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Speaker 2: be asked about his contract and his future all year

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Speaker 2: if they didn't do something in spring. And now we

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Speaker 2: that is a tremendous feeling to know you have an

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Speaker 1: And Sale is going to turn thirty seven at the

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Speaker 1: end of March, so not a young man. And we

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Speaker 1: should say there's of course risk, although the Graves have

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Speaker 1: been more than comfortable giving out big contracts on a

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Speaker 1: yearly basis to Charlie Morton. Even Cole Hamils a few

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Speaker 1: is some risk. But it's interesting even though Sale is

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Speaker 1: order to be effective, should be relatively fresh compared to

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Speaker 2: for you. It's gonna be exactly like it was with

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Speaker 2: the like FanDuel and Bally. It's just you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to figure out, you know, when the Braves announced these deals,

436
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Speaker 2: you know, is the channel gonna be on the cable

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Speaker 2: package you currently have or do you have to upgrade

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Speaker 2: your cable package? What channel is it, you know, and

439
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Speaker 2: how to find it? All that stuff will be announced

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Speaker 2: as they make deals with those carriers. So the linear

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Speaker 2: TV people, it really isn't changing much. It's just what

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Speaker 2: the channel is going to be different, and the branding

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Speaker 2: is gonna look different. Still gonna be CJ and Brandon,

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Speaker 2: which is awesome. The streaming people is where I think

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Speaker 2: the biggest change is coming because because I don't have like,

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Speaker 2: I don't have cable, I don't have linear cable. I

447
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Speaker 2: watch everything via streaming. So now that I can stream

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Speaker 2: on MLB dot TV an Atlanta Braves game is a

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Speaker 2: massive change for me. So and there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: us out there like that. So that's where the that's

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Speaker 2: where the big change comes.

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Speaker 1: And you know you mentioned YouTube TV and Fubo TV

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Speaker 1: is popular. I think the Braves did announce like a

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Speaker 1: They have a frequently asked Questions page, and I believe

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Speaker 1: one of the questions was I have YouTube TV or

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Speaker 1: I have Fubo What does this.

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Speaker 2: Mean for me?

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Speaker 1: It seems like the Braves are working on that where

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Speaker 1: they might be able to integrate Braves Vision into you

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Speaker 1: into your YouTube TV package. I don't know what that's

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Speaker 1: going to look like, and I'm sure the team will

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Speaker 1: announce it in the next six weeks, but that's a possibility.

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Speaker 1: And then on the streaming side, so say you are

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Speaker 1: somebody who has cut the cord, as so many people

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Speaker 1: will have, you'll have two options. We think you can

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Speaker 1: either purchase Braves dot tv, which is the Braves only,

467
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Speaker 1: so you would get all one hundred and forty Braves

468
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Speaker 1: games streaming. You can also purchase Braves TV plus MLBtv,

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Speaker 1: and that would get you access not just to Braves games,

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Speaker 1: but to all other twenty nine teams. We don't know

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Speaker 1: pricing yet, and I know pricing was something a lot

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Speaker 1: of people were asking And this is just a guess

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Speaker 1: based on what other teams in Major League Baseball have done.

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Speaker 1: But for example, the Saint Louis Cardinals now have Cardinals

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Speaker 1: dot TV for in network streaming. Cardinals dot Tv is

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Speaker 1: ninety nine ninety nine for Cardinals only, and if you

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Speaker 1: want all the games, it's one ninety nine ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: We don't know for sure that it's going to be

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Speaker 1: one hundred bucks to watch Braves only and two hundred

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Speaker 1: bucks to watch everybody. That kind of feels like what

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Speaker 1: it would be it's sub one hundred dollars, which I

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Speaker 1: mean by a penny. It's sub one hundred dollars, which

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Speaker 1: is kind of an easy to market price point to

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Speaker 1: try to get as many people to sign up as possible.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the Braves will announce this in the coming weeks.

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Speaker 1: It could be more. I guarantee you it won't be less.

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Speaker 1: It could be more because the Braves are such a

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Speaker 1: massive market and team and fan base. But if you're

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Speaker 1: budgeting this stuff out, probably one hundred bucks to watch

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Speaker 1: the Braves in network on streaming, and if you want

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Speaker 1: to watch everybody, it'd be about two hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And I you're one hundred percent riding, will not

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Speaker 2: be less than that. I would not be surprised if

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Speaker 2: it's more. I wouldn't be surprised if it's like one

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Speaker 2: thirty for the Braves and you know, maybe two thirty

496
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Speaker 2: for the for everything. But because like you said, the

497
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Speaker 2: Braves are just a it's a higher level product and

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Speaker 2: it's in more demand.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I will say this with YouTube TV specifically, it's going

501
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Speaker 2: to be very similar, like as the Braves announced these

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Speaker 2: deals for like Charter and AT and T and all

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Speaker 2: the big cable carriers. It's gonna be the exact same

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Speaker 2: thing with streamers, like we're gonna just wait, are they

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Speaker 2: gonna announce? You know, these carrier disputes are very common

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Speaker 2: now in our world. Like you see all the time

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Speaker 2: you're watching YouTube TV and it's like this channel is

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Speaker 2: about to go away because we're not, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: in a dispute. So the carrier and the network are

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Speaker 2: gonna have to strike a deal. And that's the same

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Speaker 2: for all of the cable companies and all the streaming services.

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Speaker 2: So people ask, is it gonna be on YouTube TV?

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Speaker 2: We don't know, and honestly, the team doesn't even know,

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Speaker 2: Like they're they're gonna have to get into these negotiations

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Speaker 2: and come up with a number that makes sense for everybody.

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Speaker 2: So I you know, the devil's gonna and the devil's

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Speaker 2: in the details and a lot of stuff we just

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Speaker 2: don't know. But the fact that it's been announced, we

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Speaker 2: know it's got linear TV attached. We know that people

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Speaker 2: in market are gonna have an option to stream Braves

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Speaker 2: games as massive because we just didn't have that before.

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Speaker 2: So and the fact that it's all in house, the

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Speaker 2: Braves don't have to worry about some RSN going to

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Speaker 2: bankruptcy court because they can't pay their bills and having

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Speaker 2: their whole TV lives disrupted because of it, which is

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Speaker 2: what happened to the Braves the last two years. They

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Speaker 2: have to worry about any of that. They own it

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Speaker 2: all now, so that that's fantastic. That's just a two

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Speaker 2: really good sets of news that we got this morning,

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Speaker 2: and you know, honestly equally impactful, like how you watch

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Speaker 2: the team, how you watch the Braves, where you watch

532
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: it matters, It matters to every fan. So we're still

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Speaker 2: wedding on some more details, especially on pricing, but this

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Speaker 2: was good news today.

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Speaker 1: It definitely is. And we're going to continue to talk

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Speaker 1: All right, Stephen, we are back, and they should say

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Speaker 1: other quick notes on Braves Vision and the new TV network. Additionally,

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Speaker 1: if you are in the region, but maybe you don't

563
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: want to pay for the streaming service or you don't

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Speaker 1: have cable, the Braves did say that they will continue

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Speaker 1: to broadcast a handful of games over the year on

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Speaker 1: Gray television stations, which they announced a few weeks ago

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Speaker 1: for spring training. I believe there's fifteen games on Gray

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Speaker 1: TV stations and select markets, largely in the Southeast. But

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Speaker 1: if you're not going to pay for the service, it

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Speaker 1: is worth noting that you may be able to get

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Speaker 1: a handful of Braves games over the antenna. And then lastly,

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Speaker 1: one other note, and the Braves made sure to make

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Speaker 1: note of this. So with Brave's vision that is going

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Speaker 1: to be about one hundred and forty games, you do

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Speaker 1: not get the national telecast games through Braves dot TV

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Speaker 1: Brave's vision on your cable or satellite provider, those are

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Speaker 1: going to continue to be blacked out. You, of course

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Speaker 1: then have to watch on ESPN or now NBC is

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Speaker 1: the new Sunday Night Baseball Home, or of course everyone's

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Speaker 1: favorite Apple TV games or Peacock games which dear Lord

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Speaker 1: and head at any time one of those happened. It

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Speaker 1: is like World War three on the internet. But wanted

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Speaker 1: to make note of those two items in terms of

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Speaker 1: the TV deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the downside of having such a large

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Speaker 2: national brand as your favorite baseball team is that the

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Speaker 2: national broadcast want them a lot on their national you know,

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Speaker 2: on the national side. So NBC is launching this new

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night Baseball thing for ratings purposes. They're gonna want

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Speaker 2: the Braves and so and they're gonna want the Yankees

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Speaker 2: and the Phillies and the big markets. So, yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Braves are only playing one hundred and forty kind of

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Speaker 2: normal games in terms of the TV side. They've got

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Speaker 2: all of these national games. I expect that to continue.

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Speaker 2: It's usually I mean that's not crazy, it's it's a

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Speaker 2: little high. Like normally it's like you get like one

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Speaker 2: forty five or maybe one fifty in terms of your

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Speaker 2: regular broadcast. So this year's one forty Again. The MLB's

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Speaker 2: got some new TV partners they're rolling out, NBC being

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Speaker 2: the big one, so it's not surprising. But yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get a lion's share of the games on whatever

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Speaker 2: you're whatever you're currently using. And I'll say this, the

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Speaker 2: Braves are the Braves have I'm not going to say

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Speaker 2: they're going to have more money to spend. But when

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Speaker 2: this TV stuff was happening, there was a real conversation

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Speaker 2: about how much of a bath they were going to

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Speaker 2: take on revenue, and I was really actually pretty concerned

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Speaker 2: because it happened so late in the calendar, Like the

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Speaker 2: Main Street Sports stuff happened like a month ago, and

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Speaker 2: I was really concerned, like the Braves were gonna have

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Speaker 2: to maybe only do like a streaming thing for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six, that the revenue was gonna come way down,

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Speaker 2: that payroll might have to come way down because of it.

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Speaker 2: We ha's heard some numbers about what other teams have

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Speaker 2: had to take in terms of revenue when MLB took

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Speaker 2: over their distribution. I was quietly concerned that the Braves

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Speaker 2: were really going to be in a tough spot, maybe

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Speaker 2: not long term, but maybe just in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that they saw it coming and I

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Speaker 2: think everybody saw this coming down the track for the

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Speaker 2: last couple of years, but the Braves were proactive about

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Speaker 2: having this ready to go in a month's noticed. They've

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Speaker 2: been able to launch this. That's a that's not a given.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams that didn't do that, and

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Speaker 2: I weren't prepared to do that and aren't going to

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Speaker 2: reap the benefits of it. So credit to the Braves

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Speaker 2: for seeing this coming. They're probably they're probably going to

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Speaker 2: take a little bit of bath in year one just

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Speaker 2: because it's new and they were making a lot of

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Speaker 2: money on the old RSN deals, But long term, the

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Speaker 2: projections on this are way higher. There just are because

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Speaker 2: you're you're not you're keeping everything inside. So this is fantastic,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and getting it launched so quickly is not

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Speaker 2: a given. And so credit to the team for launching

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Speaker 2: this so quickly.

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Speaker 1: I know that when it was first announced that the

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Speaker 1: RSN deal with the Braves had fallen apart, former Beat

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Speaker 1: Beat writer in Front of the show, Justin Tuscano tweeted out, like,

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Speaker 1: this is not a big shock to the Braves, Like,

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Speaker 1: there are folks who've been thinking about this new era

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Speaker 1: of Braves TV for a long time, and you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: There's there's no way you could bring all this together

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00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: in four weeks, no, I mean, and this is and

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Speaker 1: also the Braves knew their TV deal was close to expiring,

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Speaker 1: and there's no you know, if you're a television executive,

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Speaker 1: you're not a dummy. We know that so many of

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Speaker 1: these RSN deals signed right before literally millions of people

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Speaker 1: started cutting the cord and just going to Netflix and

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Speaker 1: Petecock and not having cable as they used to have

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Speaker 1: for years and years and years. It feels like the

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Speaker 1: Braves are well positioned, and you know, the beauty of

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Speaker 1: this is being a publicly traded company. I would assume

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Speaker 1: we will get details on this TV deal, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the financial quarters to come so well, No, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think year one that might be a little slow

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Speaker 1: off the ground, but ideally by year two, year three,

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Speaker 1: year four, the Braves really have this humming and get

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Speaker 1: it closer to the revenue that some of the biggest

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Speaker 1: TV markets in the in the game bring in year

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Speaker 1: over year.

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Speaker 2: And this wasn't part of the announcement today, but there

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Speaker 2: was a report from the Sports Business Journal, who did

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Speaker 2: a great job covering this stuff. By the way, I

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Speaker 2: think it was yesterday that the Braves may look into

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Speaker 2: partnering with some of the other local professional teams. I

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Speaker 2: think it said the Hawks and maybe the Tennessee No it.

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Speaker 1: Was Grizzlies, maybe the Charlotte Hornets. Like it was kind

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Speaker 1: of a random mishmash of Southeastern professional teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and so, and that helps you know there's there's

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Speaker 2: business reasons for that, but also helps with programming year round. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: NHL NBA seasons are kind of opposite of MLB seasons

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Speaker 2: that happen in the winter, because it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: network that has programming all the time, just like any

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Speaker 2: other channel you turn on, you know, any time of

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Speaker 2: year it's gonna have They're gonna want to have some

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Speaker 2: sort of programming on year round, and obviously the baseball

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Speaker 2: season is not year round, so I would not be

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Speaker 2: surprised if this gets expanded to NBA NHL. A lot

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Speaker 2: of those franchises were also up ended by the main

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Speaker 2: street sport uh, you know, bankruptcy or whatever, so they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be looking for team homes as well. A lot

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Speaker 2: of people want to attach themselves to the Braves because

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Speaker 2: the Braves are such a massive market. They can carry

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Speaker 2: a network by themselves, just on the just on the ratings.

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Speaker 2: So I would don't be surprised at all if like

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Speaker 2: the Hawks join this at some point. If you're if

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Speaker 2: you're an Atlanta Hawks fan, or if you're a Charlotte

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Speaker 2: Hornets fan, or you know whatever the NHL teams are

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Speaker 2: in those areas, I can't tell you, but don't be

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Speaker 2: surprised if that happens as well.

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Speaker 1: And you would think that would bring in even more

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Speaker 1: revenue for the team. You know, if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: selling ads for Braves games, it's hey, you want to

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Speaker 1: also be on Atlanta Hawks games with you know, with

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Speaker 1: Brad Rowland in press row covering the boys, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it makes it right. It's another revenue stream we gotta get.

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Speaker 2: We got to get Brad a GoPro and just have

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Speaker 2: the you know, you can watch the game from from

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Speaker 2: Brad's point of view, just from the top of Brad's head.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Yes, nobody grinds more on the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Hawks feat than our our good old friend Brad Rowland.

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Speaker 1: But yes, it is. To put a ball on this,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a real potential here for the Braves

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Speaker 1: to bring in even more money. We know that the

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Speaker 1: Battery is packed for eighty one home games a year. Yep,

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Speaker 1: ticket sales are always strong. God, let's hope the team

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Speaker 1: is better this year so they don't see that decline

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Speaker 1: in August and September ticket sales and revenue, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: can't imagine many folks were eagerly waiting to drop two

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars to go to the ballpark last September with

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Speaker 1: the team just totally dead, but a big day for

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Speaker 1: the Braves. Chris Sale extension absolutely helps the team out

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, hopefully twenty twenty eight and a new

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Speaker 1: era for Braves Television with Brave's vision. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: in the weeks to come we will learn more about

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Speaker 1: pricing and availability and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll cover all that as soon as that

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Speaker 2: stuff drops. Obviously, we're not going to leave you guys

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Speaker 2: out in the cold. As soon as we know which

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Speaker 2: carriers get added, the Brave said they would announce each

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about it as soon as we know pricing,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about it as soon as we know channels. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: like you know, we'll throw that stuff out there too,

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Speaker 2: just so everybody knows. Everybody just you know, most people

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Speaker 2: just they don't really care about the business side. Most

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Speaker 2: people just want to know where can I watch the game?

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Speaker 2: How much is it going to cost me? And where

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Speaker 2: can I watch the game? So as soon as we

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Speaker 2: have all that stuff, we will we will throw it

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Speaker 2: out to the public.

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Speaker 1: And a reminder one more time that if you are

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Speaker 1: not local. If you are not in the Braves TV network,

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Speaker 1: nothing has changed by by your MLB TV. You'll have

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Speaker 1: the Braves on on opening day and every day after that.

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Speaker 1: So one more time for that note. I lost track

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Speaker 1: of how many people ask me that question earlier today.

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Speaker 2: And if you have any questions, I will send you

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Speaker 2: Brad Rowland's email and he's our customer service rep and

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Speaker 2: he will answer any questions that you have.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, let me. Let me pull up Brad's

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Speaker 1: number here.

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Speaker 2: I've got a cell phone number here as well. Here

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Speaker 2: we go.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is seven to seven zero three. Sorry Brad.

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, That is going to do it for

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Speaker 1: this edition of the Hammer Territory Podcast. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: with plenty of coverage this upcoming week. The Braves are

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Speaker 1: actually playing a game right now that is going well

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Speaker 1: knock on wood as we record, so we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the games the next time we have a show on

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Speaker 1: the feed. As always, a big thank you to everybody

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Speaker 1: for checking us out. We'll be back with plenty more

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Speaker 1: and until then we will see everybody next time.

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Speaker 4: The Diffrent

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Speaker 1: SA