1 00:00:04,835 --> 00:00:22,555 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. It 2 00:00:22,675 --> 00:00:25,915 Speaker 1: is now safe to extrapolate that Donald Trump killed at 3 00:00:25,995 --> 00:00:29,715 Speaker 1: least one American in order to instead send the COVID 4 00:00:29,715 --> 00:00:33,155 Speaker 1: testing machine that might have saved them to Vladimir Putin. 5 00:00:34,715 --> 00:00:39,915 Speaker 1: Bob Woodward's book does not say Trump sent a terrified 6 00:00:40,035 --> 00:00:44,515 Speaker 1: Putin COVID nineteen tests early in the pandemic, as is 7 00:00:44,515 --> 00:00:47,795 Speaker 1: being so widely reported. The Washington Post got it right. 8 00:00:48,315 --> 00:00:52,595 Speaker 1: Trump secretly sent Putin what were then rare Abbot point 9 00:00:52,795 --> 00:00:59,675 Speaker 1: of care test machines for the Russian's personal use, for 10 00:00:59,795 --> 00:01:04,555 Speaker 1: his personal use, for our enemy's use, from the supply 11 00:01:04,835 --> 00:01:08,675 Speaker 1: meant for American citizens, then faced with a rapidly spreading 12 00:01:08,755 --> 00:01:11,875 Speaker 1: virus for which there was no vaccine, no cure, and 13 00:01:11,995 --> 00:01:17,475 Speaker 1: next to no treatment to save Putin and his fellow scumbags, 14 00:01:18,035 --> 00:01:22,435 Speaker 1: even if that meant Trump would have to kill Americans 15 00:01:22,795 --> 00:01:28,595 Speaker 1: by remote control. That is the definition of Donald Trump, who, 16 00:01:28,595 --> 00:01:31,875 Speaker 1: by the way, had already confirmed woodwards other startling accusation 17 00:01:32,195 --> 00:01:37,115 Speaker 1: that he has spoken to Putin since he left office. 18 00:01:37,235 --> 00:01:40,675 Speaker 1: Made Donald Trump burn in hell, and the sooner the better. 19 00:01:42,435 --> 00:01:46,595 Speaker 1: The headline in this nightmare is bad. It's really bad. 20 00:01:47,315 --> 00:01:50,715 Speaker 1: And the details are worse because we know with certainty 21 00:01:51,075 --> 00:01:56,115 Speaker 1: that Trump stole American testing machines from American hospitals and 22 00:01:56,235 --> 00:02:00,155 Speaker 1: other crisis health facilities, almost virtually out of the hands 23 00:02:00,195 --> 00:02:04,275 Speaker 1: of first responders, to give to the Russian dictator between 24 00:02:05,035 --> 00:02:09,235 Speaker 1: two dates, March thirty first, twenty twenty and May seventh, 25 00:02:09,275 --> 00:02:13,155 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. The earlier date is when the Abbot company 26 00:02:13,195 --> 00:02:17,675 Speaker 1: says that was when they began distributing our rapid point 27 00:02:17,715 --> 00:02:22,075 Speaker 1: of care COVID nineteen tests for our ID NOW system 28 00:02:22,155 --> 00:02:27,395 Speaker 1: March thirty first, Four days later, Abbot claimed to have 29 00:02:27,435 --> 00:02:31,555 Speaker 1: distributed one hundred and ninety thousand rapid tests for those 30 00:02:31,675 --> 00:02:35,475 Speaker 1: machines in twenty one American states. That's less than fifty 31 00:02:35,835 --> 00:02:41,555 Speaker 1: thousand tests a day. We don't know how many machines 32 00:02:42,275 --> 00:02:45,475 Speaker 1: were available at that point, obviously the number would be 33 00:02:45,475 --> 00:02:49,675 Speaker 1: a lot less. So March thirty first was the first 34 00:02:49,835 --> 00:02:53,315 Speaker 1: day Trump could have killed an American for the sake 35 00:02:53,315 --> 00:02:57,075 Speaker 1: of putin the other end the other end of the 36 00:02:57,075 --> 00:03:00,115 Speaker 1: window May seventh. On May seventh, officials in Russia and 37 00:03:00,195 --> 00:03:03,915 Speaker 1: Russia's branch office at the Trump White House said, quote, 38 00:03:03,955 --> 00:03:08,515 Speaker 1: some COVID testing equipment as well as ventilators had been 39 00:03:08,555 --> 00:03:12,755 Speaker 1: sent to Russia. But it was Mike Pompeo, the Macy's 40 00:03:12,795 --> 00:03:16,795 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day parade balloon, who served as Trump's last Secretary 41 00:03:16,835 --> 00:03:19,515 Speaker 1: of State, who said that, And he of course never 42 00:03:19,595 --> 00:03:22,235 Speaker 1: said the tests had been pulled out of the hands 43 00:03:22,475 --> 00:03:28,555 Speaker 1: of American first responders because Putin was scared. The earliest 44 00:03:28,595 --> 00:03:30,755 Speaker 1: day it could have happened was March thirty first. On 45 00:03:30,995 --> 00:03:34,835 Speaker 1: that day, doctors Fauci and Burks tried to warn the 46 00:03:34,835 --> 00:03:38,275 Speaker 1: country that the best case scenario had become between one 47 00:03:38,315 --> 00:03:41,835 Speaker 1: hundred thousand and two hundred and forty thousand American dead. 48 00:03:42,515 --> 00:03:46,075 Speaker 1: By April tenth, there were more than eighteen thousand Americans dead, 49 00:03:46,155 --> 00:03:48,675 Speaker 1: more than half a million cases in this country, one 50 00:03:48,755 --> 00:03:50,755 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty thousand of them here in New York 51 00:03:50,755 --> 00:03:54,755 Speaker 1: State alone. Our outside date on this window of Trump 52 00:03:54,795 --> 00:03:58,035 Speaker 1: infamy is May seventh, by which point there were seventy 53 00:03:58,075 --> 00:04:02,275 Speaker 1: two thousand dead. Ten thousand more Americans would die from 54 00:04:02,315 --> 00:04:06,475 Speaker 1: COVID in the next week, the latest possible date that 55 00:04:06,555 --> 00:04:11,275 Speaker 1: someone could not get a test because Trump prioritized Vladimir 56 00:04:11,315 --> 00:04:20,435 Speaker 1: Putin's life over yours. Just for context, my doctors later agreed, 57 00:04:20,675 --> 00:04:24,355 Speaker 1: I contracted COVID nineteen in the first week of February 58 00:04:24,795 --> 00:04:27,755 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Fortunately, the worst it got for me was 59 00:04:27,835 --> 00:04:31,675 Speaker 1: high fever and convulsions. My doctors told me to get 60 00:04:31,675 --> 00:04:35,155 Speaker 1: a test as a minor case and as a full recovery, 61 00:04:35,315 --> 00:04:39,795 Speaker 1: just in case I showed signs of antibodies, so somebody 62 00:04:39,795 --> 00:04:42,515 Speaker 1: else could then be prioritized ahead of me whenever the 63 00:04:42,595 --> 00:04:49,115 Speaker 1: vaccine would become available. I got the test on May thirteenth. 64 00:04:49,515 --> 00:04:53,035 Speaker 1: Another American was not so lucky or another two Americans 65 00:04:53,075 --> 00:04:56,035 Speaker 1: were not so lucky as to get a test, or 66 00:04:56,075 --> 00:04:59,915 Speaker 1: two hundred Americans or two thousand Americans because of Goddamn 67 00:05:00,035 --> 00:05:03,995 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Deaths in five digits as of the first day. 68 00:05:03,995 --> 00:05:05,995 Speaker 1: Trump could have still in the equipment and sent it 69 00:05:06,035 --> 00:05:10,435 Speaker 1: to Putin, which is what figuratively he did, deaths increasing 70 00:05:10,475 --> 00:05:12,595 Speaker 1: by ten thousand a week as of the last day. 71 00:05:12,995 --> 00:05:17,395 Speaker 1: How many died before all chance of treatment was extinguished 72 00:05:17,755 --> 00:05:21,795 Speaker 1: just because the Abbot point of care machines they needed 73 00:05:22,515 --> 00:05:26,235 Speaker 1: had been sent to the Russian dictator by the American dictator. 74 00:05:27,515 --> 00:05:31,155 Speaker 1: Does it really have to be more than one death 75 00:05:31,915 --> 00:05:34,595 Speaker 1: before we recognize Trump for what he is, before we 76 00:05:34,675 --> 00:05:39,675 Speaker 1: recognize to whom he belongs before we acknowledge as a 77 00:05:39,675 --> 00:05:42,875 Speaker 1: country that what happened here was murder by proxy of 78 00:05:42,915 --> 00:05:47,275 Speaker 1: an American citizen or citizens by Donald Trump, before we 79 00:05:47,355 --> 00:05:50,515 Speaker 1: admit that whenever it started, and however it started, and 80 00:05:50,595 --> 00:05:53,875 Speaker 1: how recently someone or something in our country was killed 81 00:05:53,955 --> 00:05:56,835 Speaker 1: or jeopardized by it, that Donald Trump is not just 82 00:05:56,955 --> 00:06:00,995 Speaker 1: a Russian asset, but that Donald Trump is a Vladimir 83 00:06:01,115 --> 00:06:06,315 Speaker 1: Putin personal asset. I don't want you to tell anybody 84 00:06:06,995 --> 00:06:10,635 Speaker 1: Putin told Trump according to the Woodward Book, because people 85 00:06:10,675 --> 00:06:14,035 Speaker 1: will get mad at you, not me. Putin was as 86 00:06:14,075 --> 00:06:19,315 Speaker 1: always wrong. If this, out of all of them, the 87 00:06:19,355 --> 00:06:23,275 Speaker 1: purest and most obvious case of treason committed by Donald 88 00:06:23,315 --> 00:06:27,155 Speaker 1: John Trump, had been revealed in real time in the 89 00:06:27,155 --> 00:06:30,315 Speaker 1: early spring of twenty twenty, I don't think there would 90 00:06:30,315 --> 00:06:32,635 Speaker 1: have been an issue of anybody getting mad at Trump. 91 00:06:33,475 --> 00:06:36,995 Speaker 1: I suspect instead, tens of thousands of Americans would have 92 00:06:37,035 --> 00:07:04,315 Speaker 1: descended on the White House in a blind rage, and 93 00:07:04,395 --> 00:07:08,875 Speaker 1: we know, oh, Trump is still Clutin's asset. Woodward quotes 94 00:07:08,915 --> 00:07:11,315 Speaker 1: an unidentified Trump aid is saying the two creatures have 95 00:07:11,395 --> 00:07:14,875 Speaker 1: spoken at least seven times since Trump was exiled from 96 00:07:14,955 --> 00:07:19,515 Speaker 1: Washington in early twenty twenty four. It's phrased in the 97 00:07:19,635 --> 00:07:23,355 Speaker 1: Washington Post, the former president ordered an aid away from 98 00:07:23,435 --> 00:07:26,515 Speaker 1: his office at marri Lago so he could conduct a 99 00:07:26,555 --> 00:07:31,875 Speaker 1: private phone call with the Russian leader. According to Woodward's account, unquote, 100 00:07:33,315 --> 00:07:38,555 Speaker 1: Trump's spokesperson, the comically high pitched Stephen Chung called all 101 00:07:38,635 --> 00:07:44,955 Speaker 1: this quote made up stories by Bob Woodward unquote, because 102 00:07:45,075 --> 00:07:48,035 Speaker 1: Chung is both an idiot and a liar. But in 103 00:07:48,075 --> 00:07:51,275 Speaker 1: point of fact, we do not need Woodward, We do 104 00:07:51,395 --> 00:07:55,715 Speaker 1: not need Stephen Chung to know for a fact that 105 00:07:55,795 --> 00:07:59,395 Speaker 1: Trump has been in recent consultation with the Russian psychopath, 106 00:07:59,915 --> 00:08:04,475 Speaker 1: or at absolutely the best possible interpretation that Trump believes 107 00:08:04,515 --> 00:08:07,755 Speaker 1: he has been in recent consultation with Putin. In the 108 00:08:07,915 --> 00:08:13,755 Speaker 1: chaos around the Trump Biden debate in June, this this 109 00:08:13,995 --> 00:08:19,555 Speaker 1: said by Trump. It got buried. He said, he and 110 00:08:19,635 --> 00:08:25,595 Speaker 1: Putin spoke after the American withdrawal from Afghanistan and before 111 00:08:26,075 --> 00:08:27,955 Speaker 1: Putin invaded Ukraine. 112 00:08:28,115 --> 00:08:31,155 Speaker 2: When Putin saw that, he said, you know what, I think, 113 00:08:31,195 --> 00:08:33,715 Speaker 2: We're going to go in and maybe take my This 114 00:08:33,915 --> 00:08:36,355 Speaker 2: was his dream. I talked to him about his dream. 115 00:08:36,555 --> 00:08:40,235 Speaker 2: The difference is he never would have invaded Ukraine. 116 00:08:40,435 --> 00:08:43,675 Speaker 1: Never. The tragedy of our withdrawal from Afghanistan drew to 117 00:08:43,715 --> 00:08:47,035 Speaker 1: a close on August thirtieth, twenty twenty one. The tragedy 118 00:08:47,555 --> 00:08:51,595 Speaker 1: of our enemy Putin's attack on our ally Ukraine began 119 00:08:52,355 --> 00:08:57,275 Speaker 1: on February twenty fourth, twenty twenty two, during the debate 120 00:08:57,475 --> 00:09:04,355 Speaker 1: with President Biden, Trump already confessed to discussing an American 121 00:09:04,395 --> 00:09:09,795 Speaker 1: enemy's invasion of an American ally before it happened, and 122 00:09:09,875 --> 00:09:15,035 Speaker 1: without transmitting that information to the elected American government. He 123 00:09:15,115 --> 00:09:18,555 Speaker 1: might as well have been on the phone to Tojoe 124 00:09:18,595 --> 00:09:24,195 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty one. Even at this late hour, President 125 00:09:24,195 --> 00:09:27,395 Speaker 1: Biden should have Trump arrested and detained in a military 126 00:09:27,435 --> 00:09:32,635 Speaker 1: facility as a foreign agent. It is not merely that 127 00:09:32,675 --> 00:09:35,835 Speaker 1: Trump is not loyal to this country and does not 128 00:09:36,035 --> 00:09:40,875 Speaker 1: understand what being loyal to this country or to anything 129 00:09:40,915 --> 00:09:44,035 Speaker 1: but himself means. It's not just that. It is that 130 00:09:44,115 --> 00:09:50,715 Speaker 1: Trump has admitted to being in illicit illegal contact with 131 00:09:50,835 --> 00:09:54,835 Speaker 1: an enemy dictator no earlier than August twenty twenty one, 132 00:09:55,115 --> 00:09:57,115 Speaker 1: and that there is significant evidence that he has been 133 00:09:57,155 --> 00:10:00,395 Speaker 1: in illicit illegal contact with the same enemy dictator in 134 00:10:00,395 --> 00:10:03,955 Speaker 1: an early later than January of this year, where Trump 135 00:10:04,075 --> 00:10:08,395 Speaker 1: an fba I or CIA agent with such contacts, he 136 00:10:08,475 --> 00:10:11,355 Speaker 1: and his lawyers could at this moment be negotiating a 137 00:10:11,355 --> 00:10:16,995 Speaker 1: plea deal so he could avoid the death penalty. A 138 00:10:17,075 --> 00:10:22,875 Speaker 1: reminder also of who Trump's owner is and what he 139 00:10:22,995 --> 00:10:26,675 Speaker 1: is trying to do. I'd like to read this part 140 00:10:26,835 --> 00:10:33,475 Speaker 1: about Putin's threats to use tactical nukes in Ukraine directly 141 00:10:33,515 --> 00:10:38,715 Speaker 1: as CNN quoted it, having seen Woodward's book, which CNN 142 00:10:38,795 --> 00:10:43,115 Speaker 1: says recounts a tense phone call between Defense Secretary Lloyd 143 00:10:43,155 --> 00:10:46,955 Speaker 1: Austin and his Russian counterpart in October twenty twenty two. Quote. 144 00:10:46,995 --> 00:10:48,835 Speaker 1: If you did this, all the restraints that we have 145 00:10:48,875 --> 00:10:53,355 Speaker 1: been operating under in Ukraine would be reconsidered, Austin said 146 00:10:53,395 --> 00:10:57,275 Speaker 1: to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, and I hope I'm mispronouncing that. 147 00:10:58,035 --> 00:11:01,875 Speaker 1: According to Woodward, this would isolate Russia on the world 148 00:11:01,875 --> 00:11:05,795 Speaker 1: stage to a degree you Russians cannot fully appreciate. I 149 00:11:05,835 --> 00:11:10,035 Speaker 1: don't take kindly to being threatened, Shoigu responded. Mister Minister 150 00:11:10,515 --> 00:11:13,395 Speaker 1: Austin said, according to Woodward, I am the leader of 151 00:11:13,435 --> 00:11:15,955 Speaker 1: the most powerful military in the history of the world. 152 00:11:16,315 --> 00:11:20,715 Speaker 1: I don't make threats. Two days later, the Russians requested 153 00:11:20,755 --> 00:11:23,955 Speaker 1: another call. This time the Russian Defense minister dramatically claimed 154 00:11:23,955 --> 00:11:27,475 Speaker 1: the Ukrainians were planning to use a dirty bomb, a 155 00:11:27,515 --> 00:11:30,035 Speaker 1: false story the US believed the Kremlin was pushing as 156 00:11:30,115 --> 00:11:34,155 Speaker 1: a pretext to deploy a nuclear weapon. We don't believe you, 157 00:11:34,635 --> 00:11:37,715 Speaker 1: Austin said firmly in response. According to Woodward, we don't 158 00:11:37,715 --> 00:11:40,595 Speaker 1: see any indications of this, and the world will see 159 00:11:40,595 --> 00:11:48,155 Speaker 1: through this. Don't do it, he said to Shoigu, I understand, 160 00:11:48,995 --> 00:11:56,195 Speaker 1: Shoigu replied, Trump's friend, the one he sent your COVID 161 00:11:56,235 --> 00:12:01,595 Speaker 1: test to, Like every other schoolyard bully, hit him once 162 00:12:01,635 --> 00:12:06,195 Speaker 1: in the mouth and watch him bleed, unless you're Trump, 163 00:12:06,195 --> 00:12:08,795 Speaker 1: and once you kiss him on the mouth. And we 164 00:12:08,875 --> 00:12:12,515 Speaker 1: don't even know what the implications of the Woodward stories 165 00:12:12,995 --> 00:12:18,035 Speaker 1: about Trump and the Saudi scumbag Prince Mohammed Ben Salmon are. 166 00:12:20,195 --> 00:12:23,115 Speaker 1: Quote Woodward. It also recounts a meeting that Lindsey Graham, 167 00:12:23,115 --> 00:12:25,795 Speaker 1: the South Carolina Senator, had with the crown prince in March. 168 00:12:26,355 --> 00:12:29,275 Speaker 1: What happened next offers a fascinating window into how the 169 00:12:29,315 --> 00:12:32,155 Speaker 1: Saudi leader operates and communicates with various world leaders and 170 00:12:32,155 --> 00:12:35,435 Speaker 1: government officials. Woodward writes that Ben Salmon had an aid 171 00:12:35,555 --> 00:12:40,475 Speaker 1: bring over a bag with about fifty burner phones, pulling 172 00:12:40,475 --> 00:12:47,595 Speaker 1: out one labeled Trump forty five as an aside. I'm 173 00:12:47,635 --> 00:12:49,795 Speaker 1: sure it'll be easier to confirm this when the book 174 00:12:49,835 --> 00:12:51,875 Speaker 1: comes out, but it is pretty obvious from the excerpts 175 00:12:51,955 --> 00:12:54,115 Speaker 1: lead to the Post, to CNN and The New York 176 00:12:54,155 --> 00:12:59,275 Speaker 1: Times that one of woodward sources is clearly Lindsey Graham. Hell. 177 00:12:59,315 --> 00:13:01,835 Speaker 1: Lindsay may have finally snapped. All of these stories could 178 00:13:01,875 --> 00:13:06,675 Speaker 1: easily be from Lindsay Graham. Sington Post accounts ends thusly. 179 00:13:07,755 --> 00:13:10,715 Speaker 1: The Royal Court in Riad, however, is not the comparison 180 00:13:10,755 --> 00:13:15,795 Speaker 1: Graham uses when describing visits to Trump's residence at mary Lago. 181 00:13:15,915 --> 00:13:18,395 Speaker 1: According to Woodward, the Senator evokes an even more brutal 182 00:13:18,435 --> 00:13:21,275 Speaker 1: form of authoritarianism. Going to mar Lago is a little 183 00:13:21,275 --> 00:13:24,235 Speaker 1: bit like going to North Korea. The book quotes Graham 184 00:13:24,275 --> 00:13:29,075 Speaker 1: is saying, everybody stands up and collapse every time Trump 185 00:13:29,115 --> 00:13:43,115 Speaker 1: comes in May Donald Trump burn in hell. This Woodward 186 00:13:43,115 --> 00:13:47,715 Speaker 1: book is not just about Trump and his fellow scumbags. 187 00:13:48,155 --> 00:13:54,795 Speaker 1: There are biden parts of this book. They are largely irrelevant. Interesting. 188 00:13:55,755 --> 00:13:59,395 Speaker 1: One part is simultaneously infuriating and endearing. It was act 189 00:13:59,435 --> 00:14:04,515 Speaker 1: of the Hunter Biden prosecution. It could have been earlier 190 00:14:04,515 --> 00:14:06,595 Speaker 1: than that. It could have been in any of the 191 00:14:06,635 --> 00:14:09,595 Speaker 1: five hundred days of the man in question dragging his 192 00:14:09,715 --> 00:14:14,795 Speaker 1: feet on Trump. The President told an associate quote, should 193 00:14:14,795 --> 00:14:20,795 Speaker 1: never have picked Garland. God damn Bright one way or 194 00:14:20,835 --> 00:14:30,195 Speaker 1: the other. Mister President, fire this weakling's ass Couple of 195 00:14:30,235 --> 00:14:33,635 Speaker 1: other headlines, now we know what Nate Cohnes message was 196 00:14:33,835 --> 00:14:35,795 Speaker 1: in his New York Times story Monday about why the 197 00:14:35,795 --> 00:14:37,835 Speaker 1: Times poll had looked so different from all the others 198 00:14:37,835 --> 00:14:39,915 Speaker 1: that had been showing Harris ahead by three four as 199 00:14:39,955 --> 00:14:44,435 Speaker 1: high as six, because the newest Times poll coming out 200 00:14:44,515 --> 00:14:47,595 Speaker 1: yesterday has moved in one month from a tie to 201 00:14:47,795 --> 00:14:54,555 Speaker 1: Harris by three. Remember the Nate Silver correlation between popular 202 00:14:54,635 --> 00:14:57,035 Speaker 1: vote margin and chances of a Harris victory outlined here 203 00:14:57,115 --> 00:15:00,475 Speaker 1: yesterday three to four percent, it's Harris eighty six and 204 00:15:00,555 --> 00:15:02,875 Speaker 1: a half percent chance of a win in the electoral 205 00:15:02,915 --> 00:15:07,675 Speaker 1: college percent is ninety six point six percent, five to 206 00:15:07,755 --> 00:15:11,195 Speaker 1: six ninety nine percent six points or more ninety nine 207 00:15:11,275 --> 00:15:16,635 Speaker 1: point nine percent. The Times has it at three. I'm 208 00:15:16,675 --> 00:15:20,915 Speaker 1: not sure how that correlates to Nate Silver's latest forecast. 209 00:15:22,035 --> 00:15:25,915 Speaker 1: He claims This is from his model yesterday, and it 210 00:15:26,035 --> 00:15:28,155 Speaker 1: is that Harris's chance to win the popular vote now 211 00:15:28,195 --> 00:15:31,555 Speaker 1: stands at just over three quarters, that our chance to 212 00:15:31,595 --> 00:15:35,195 Speaker 1: win the Electoral College now stands at just under fifty 213 00:15:35,195 --> 00:15:38,155 Speaker 1: five percent, That her likely vote total in the EC 214 00:15:38,915 --> 00:15:42,515 Speaker 1: is two hundred and seventy nine to Trump's two hundred 215 00:15:42,515 --> 00:15:46,555 Speaker 1: and fifty nine to jd Vance lies. To add to 216 00:15:46,595 --> 00:15:50,195 Speaker 1: your list, you're going to need a longer list. A 217 00:15:50,275 --> 00:15:54,035 Speaker 1: dozen clowns in the audience at JB's fascist rally in 218 00:15:54,075 --> 00:15:58,395 Speaker 1: Detroit yesterday, we're wearing auto workers for Trump t shirts. 219 00:15:59,435 --> 00:16:03,115 Speaker 1: The Detroit News spoke to six of these who said 220 00:16:03,195 --> 00:16:09,355 Speaker 1: they were for Trump, but surprise, they were not auto workers. 221 00:16:10,395 --> 00:16:14,275 Speaker 1: Of all the things I don't understand, I don't understand 222 00:16:14,315 --> 00:16:19,475 Speaker 1: this the most. If you are going to lie, and 223 00:16:19,635 --> 00:16:22,555 Speaker 1: jd Vance is going to lie, it looks to be 224 00:16:22,955 --> 00:16:26,115 Speaker 1: as pathological with him as it is with Trump. Why 225 00:16:26,155 --> 00:16:34,515 Speaker 1: not lie skillfully? Why not make sure you've paid these 226 00:16:35,155 --> 00:16:41,635 Speaker 1: six idiots ten bucks each to not talk to the 227 00:16:41,635 --> 00:16:48,475 Speaker 1: Detroit News the other Dvance lie, same speech quote, You're 228 00:16:48,515 --> 00:16:53,195 Speaker 1: never gonna hear me praise Barack Obama, all right? January two, 229 00:16:53,275 --> 00:16:58,515 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, New York Times from contributing opinion writer J. D. Vance, 230 00:16:58,595 --> 00:17:01,395 Speaker 1: the child who so desperately wanted an American dream with 231 00:17:01,435 --> 00:17:04,195 Speaker 1: a happy family at its core will feel something different. 232 00:17:04,475 --> 00:17:07,435 Speaker 1: A little time in my life, Barack Obama gave me 233 00:17:07,515 --> 00:17:10,075 Speaker 1: hope that a boy who grew up like me could 234 00:17:10,115 --> 00:17:13,395 Speaker 1: still achieve the most important of my dreams. For that, 235 00:17:14,115 --> 00:17:20,315 Speaker 1: I'll miss him and the example he set. Yes, we 236 00:17:20,355 --> 00:17:25,875 Speaker 1: will never hear jd Vance praise Barack Obama because he 237 00:17:25,875 --> 00:17:29,115 Speaker 1: didn't read this aloud himself. He let me read it. 238 00:17:29,955 --> 00:17:34,595 Speaker 1: I'll say it for the thousandth time. The continuation of 239 00:17:34,635 --> 00:17:38,035 Speaker 1: our form of representative government is less a function of 240 00:17:38,075 --> 00:17:41,915 Speaker 1: our efforts to preserve it and more the result of 241 00:17:41,955 --> 00:17:49,755 Speaker 1: the abject, monumental, incalculable stupidity of those who would destroy it. 242 00:17:50,675 --> 00:17:57,475 Speaker 1: And thank god there morons, which leads me to conclude 243 00:17:57,475 --> 00:18:01,155 Speaker 1: with this when you wonder how people could be stupid 244 00:18:01,275 --> 00:18:05,395 Speaker 1: enough to joke about assassinating the vice president and president 245 00:18:05,435 --> 00:18:09,795 Speaker 1: of the United States while they and others from their 246 00:18:09,835 --> 00:18:14,195 Speaker 1: own demographic group, which is sprung out megalomaniacs, are campaigning 247 00:18:14,235 --> 00:18:17,715 Speaker 1: for Trump almost entirely on the near tragic attempt to 248 00:18:17,755 --> 00:18:21,795 Speaker 1: assassinate him. If you wonder how they could be stupid 249 00:18:21,875 --> 00:18:28,395 Speaker 1: enough to joke about this. I wonder instead, which drug 250 00:18:30,315 --> 00:18:31,795 Speaker 1: Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson. 251 00:18:31,835 --> 00:18:36,715 Speaker 3: Nobody's even bothering to try to kill Kamala's pointless. What 252 00:18:36,795 --> 00:18:37,355 Speaker 3: do you achieve? 253 00:18:37,475 --> 00:18:37,715 Speaker 1: Nothing? 254 00:18:37,795 --> 00:18:43,835 Speaker 3: It's just exactly that's it's no point in killing. Nobody's 255 00:18:43,835 --> 00:18:44,795 Speaker 3: trying to kill Joe Biden. 256 00:18:45,235 --> 00:18:51,635 Speaker 1: It's totally two other people who are cordially invited to 257 00:18:51,715 --> 00:18:59,555 Speaker 1: burn in hell. Also of interest here in an All 258 00:18:59,595 --> 00:19:02,075 Speaker 1: New edition, who would be the last person you would 259 00:19:02,075 --> 00:19:05,755 Speaker 1: select to be your keynote speaker at your event about 260 00:19:05,795 --> 00:19:10,155 Speaker 1: the future of legacy news media. I mean, there are 261 00:19:10,275 --> 00:19:14,515 Speaker 1: a lot of choices. Now, I am assuming that the 262 00:19:14,555 --> 00:19:17,195 Speaker 1: New York Press Club event about the future of legacy 263 00:19:17,235 --> 00:19:21,035 Speaker 1: news media is not about making sure that it doesn't 264 00:19:21,115 --> 00:19:25,075 Speaker 1: have a future on that undertaking, I am going to 265 00:19:25,115 --> 00:19:28,635 Speaker 1: suggest that the New York Press Club has literally found 266 00:19:29,395 --> 00:19:35,835 Speaker 1: the worst person in the industry to give this speech 267 00:19:36,395 --> 00:19:41,795 Speaker 1: next month. Your clue is I have talked about this 268 00:19:41,875 --> 00:19:48,115 Speaker 1: person a lot here, but it is not any of 269 00:19:48,155 --> 00:19:57,235 Speaker 1: my ex girlfriends. That's next this discountdown. This is countdown 270 00:19:57,435 --> 00:20:20,115 Speaker 1: with Keith Olberman so ahead of us on this All 271 00:20:20,155 --> 00:20:22,955 Speaker 1: New ediative countdown before we get too close to the election. 272 00:20:23,035 --> 00:20:26,235 Speaker 1: I wanted to mention my experience with the politician who 273 00:20:26,275 --> 00:20:29,115 Speaker 1: had the best response to a joke I made about 274 00:20:29,155 --> 00:20:33,075 Speaker 1: him of all of them I have ever met in 275 00:20:33,155 --> 00:20:37,555 Speaker 1: twenty five years or more of covering politics. This politician 276 00:20:37,595 --> 00:20:42,275 Speaker 1: often had has no sense of humor about others, certainly 277 00:20:42,315 --> 00:20:45,835 Speaker 1: has a hair trigger temper, But about himself he not 278 00:20:45,915 --> 00:20:50,595 Speaker 1: only enjoyed it, but just last week in public, somebody 279 00:20:50,675 --> 00:20:53,995 Speaker 1: made another joke about him, kind of main spirited joke 280 00:20:54,115 --> 00:20:56,755 Speaker 1: as well, and not only did he laugh like hell, 281 00:20:57,635 --> 00:21:00,715 Speaker 1: he then topped it. He made another joke about himself 282 00:21:00,795 --> 00:21:03,915 Speaker 1: on the same topic and got a big laugh. Next. 283 00:21:03,915 --> 00:21:08,115 Speaker 1: In things I promised not to tell first, there are 284 00:21:08,115 --> 00:21:10,515 Speaker 1: still more new idiots talk about the daily roundup of 285 00:21:10,515 --> 00:21:14,195 Speaker 1: the miscreants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute 286 00:21:14,195 --> 00:21:19,155 Speaker 1: two days worst persons in the world. The Bronze the 287 00:21:19,195 --> 00:21:22,435 Speaker 1: New York Press Club. The New York Press Club has 288 00:21:22,435 --> 00:21:25,475 Speaker 1: announced its keynote speaker at its twenty twenty four conference 289 00:21:25,515 --> 00:21:33,795 Speaker 1: on journalism on November twenty third. Journalmimismmism. They don't know 290 00:21:33,795 --> 00:21:38,395 Speaker 1: what it is? Why should I Chris licked the keynote 291 00:21:38,435 --> 00:21:41,795 Speaker 1: speaker at the twenty twenty four New York Press Club 292 00:21:41,875 --> 00:21:48,155 Speaker 1: Conference on Journalism, is Chris Licked? Chris licked? Chris licked? 293 00:21:48,235 --> 00:21:51,755 Speaker 1: Why that's Chris Lickt's name. The guy who put the 294 00:21:51,795 --> 00:21:55,515 Speaker 1: next to last nail in CNN's coffin. The guy who 295 00:21:55,555 --> 00:21:59,155 Speaker 1: put Trump on live in a town hall and let 296 00:21:59,195 --> 00:22:02,715 Speaker 1: him lie for ninety minutes. The guy who fired two 297 00:22:02,835 --> 00:22:05,595 Speaker 1: top reporters because he thought they were liber The guy 298 00:22:05,595 --> 00:22:09,475 Speaker 1: who screwed up his only successful primetime show by moving 299 00:22:09,515 --> 00:22:11,675 Speaker 1: the host who was a night guy who didn't work 300 00:22:11,715 --> 00:22:15,235 Speaker 1: well in the mornings and who worked best solo, moving 301 00:22:15,315 --> 00:22:16,835 Speaker 1: him to the mornings, where he had to be one 302 00:22:16,835 --> 00:22:20,035 Speaker 1: of three hosts. The guy who thought the next generation 303 00:22:20,115 --> 00:22:25,715 Speaker 1: of news meant a different font for CNN's graphics. The 304 00:22:25,755 --> 00:22:29,875 Speaker 1: guy whose main character reference in a career ending magazine 305 00:22:29,915 --> 00:22:35,355 Speaker 1: piece was his personal trainer. You know, the guy who 306 00:22:35,355 --> 00:22:37,715 Speaker 1: couldn't have done more damage to CNN if he'd still 307 00:22:37,755 --> 00:22:43,515 Speaker 1: been working for MSNBC. Say wait a minute, AnyWho, Chris, 308 00:22:43,995 --> 00:22:47,475 Speaker 1: you think I'm licked? You all think I'm licked. The 309 00:22:47,595 --> 00:22:50,795 Speaker 1: guy who put the next to last nail and CNN's 310 00:22:50,835 --> 00:22:54,235 Speaker 1: coffin the last nail in CNN's coffin. That's by the 311 00:22:54,275 --> 00:22:58,395 Speaker 1: current guy who put their dumbed down website behind a paywall. Anyway, 312 00:22:58,435 --> 00:23:00,515 Speaker 1: the guy who put the next to last nail in 313 00:23:00,555 --> 00:23:05,275 Speaker 1: CNNX coffin, after putting nails in the coffin of CBS News, 314 00:23:05,755 --> 00:23:08,995 Speaker 1: after nearly getting Stephen Colbert's show moved to twelve thirty 315 00:23:09,035 --> 00:23:12,115 Speaker 1: five AM, after turning Joe Scarborough into the most hated 316 00:23:12,155 --> 00:23:15,915 Speaker 1: person at NBC. Well, to be fair, Joe did most 317 00:23:15,955 --> 00:23:18,275 Speaker 1: of the heavy lifting on that, but Chris Lickt helped. 318 00:23:19,595 --> 00:23:22,355 Speaker 1: Chris Licked is going to be speaking to the New 319 00:23:22,435 --> 00:23:27,795 Speaker 1: York Press Club on the future of legacy media. I mean, 320 00:23:28,715 --> 00:23:32,395 Speaker 1: if what he says is I'll get your car right now, okay, fine, 321 00:23:34,275 --> 00:23:36,875 Speaker 1: But if it's not that, or unless there's a moderator 322 00:23:36,955 --> 00:23:38,955 Speaker 1: standing next to him, and when he says the way 323 00:23:38,995 --> 00:23:41,995 Speaker 1: for legacy media to move forward is to fire your liberals, 324 00:23:42,035 --> 00:23:45,235 Speaker 1: then the moderator says, remember this is Chris LICKT, don't 325 00:23:45,235 --> 00:23:48,395 Speaker 1: do that. And then Chris lick says, the way to 326 00:23:48,395 --> 00:23:50,795 Speaker 1: grow legacy media is to ask my trainer for a 327 00:23:50,875 --> 00:23:53,915 Speaker 1: character reference, and the moderator says, don't do that either, 328 00:23:54,475 --> 00:23:57,155 Speaker 1: unless that's the plan. I don't think the New York 329 00:23:57,195 --> 00:24:00,715 Speaker 1: Press Club could find a worse choice to speak at 330 00:24:00,755 --> 00:24:05,995 Speaker 1: the Future of Anything conference, even if they thought about 331 00:24:05,995 --> 00:24:08,875 Speaker 1: it every day through the year twenty five twenty five, 332 00:24:10,035 --> 00:24:12,875 Speaker 1: unless Chris Lick is going to take this opportunity to 333 00:24:12,875 --> 00:24:17,715 Speaker 1: get up and self immolate or something. Metaphorically speaking, of course, 334 00:24:20,075 --> 00:24:23,915 Speaker 1: the runner up, Joe Kernin of CNBC, Joe might be worse. 335 00:24:24,755 --> 00:24:27,555 Speaker 1: You know, Joe. Joe's the man who wears not one 336 00:24:27,635 --> 00:24:30,755 Speaker 1: but two different ferret two pays on his head, one 337 00:24:30,835 --> 00:24:36,355 Speaker 1: atop the other. Joe is big mad this week about 338 00:24:36,675 --> 00:24:40,835 Speaker 1: everything he complained on air about me, suggesting we should 339 00:24:40,875 --> 00:24:46,195 Speaker 1: follow Trump Advance's premise and reassess Elon Musk's immigration status 340 00:24:46,235 --> 00:24:48,955 Speaker 1: and deport him. You know, Musk, the guy making jokes 341 00:24:48,955 --> 00:24:51,875 Speaker 1: about assassinating Kamala Harrison, the President of the United States. 342 00:24:52,315 --> 00:24:56,115 Speaker 1: That guy, that asshole, that guy who may be here illegally. 343 00:24:57,115 --> 00:25:01,875 Speaker 1: Joe Kernin also insists Frank Luntz was irresponsible and this 344 00:25:01,955 --> 00:25:03,835 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with two pays that he says, 345 00:25:03,875 --> 00:25:06,755 Speaker 1: Frank Luntz was ere responsible in criticizing Trump for Trump's 346 00:25:06,795 --> 00:25:11,915 Speaker 1: slander of Haitian immigrants, in Ohio who were not eating pets. 347 00:25:12,035 --> 00:25:16,715 Speaker 1: Kernan insists, quote which they did, don't in Venezuela. Yeah, 348 00:25:16,755 --> 00:25:21,155 Speaker 1: they were from Haiti. Joe, can we just, you know, 349 00:25:21,355 --> 00:25:27,035 Speaker 1: can we start a gofund me to get Joe a globe? Now, 350 00:25:27,155 --> 00:25:30,075 Speaker 1: Joe Kernin and the ferrets atop his head are complaining 351 00:25:30,115 --> 00:25:36,195 Speaker 1: that Andrew Ross Sorkin said mean stuff about l Trumpolini quote. 352 00:25:36,675 --> 00:25:38,795 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was not convicted of rape in the case 353 00:25:38,835 --> 00:25:41,555 Speaker 1: involving E. G. And Carroll. A jury found him liable 354 00:25:41,555 --> 00:25:44,755 Speaker 1: for sexually abusing Carroll and defaming her. Don't you think 355 00:25:44,795 --> 00:25:46,555 Speaker 1: you should be more careful if you say someone was 356 00:25:46,595 --> 00:25:51,995 Speaker 1: convicted of rape, Joe. If your defensive Donald Trump is 357 00:25:52,355 --> 00:25:55,875 Speaker 1: that he was not convicted of rape, that he was 358 00:25:55,915 --> 00:26:01,595 Speaker 1: only found libel for rape by the judge, you've already 359 00:26:01,675 --> 00:26:06,075 Speaker 1: lost your argument. Also about your head, you may want 360 00:26:06,075 --> 00:26:08,075 Speaker 1: to look into those ferrets. I think I saw one 361 00:26:08,075 --> 00:26:10,835 Speaker 1: of them move the other day on the air. But 362 00:26:11,035 --> 00:26:17,355 Speaker 1: the winners the worst Joe Kernan's bosses, saysar Conde and 363 00:26:17,395 --> 00:26:23,795 Speaker 1: Rebecca Blumenstein. The Cya idiots, not Cia Cya, who have 364 00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:28,715 Speaker 1: been running NBC News into the effing ground. The folks 365 00:26:28,755 --> 00:26:32,995 Speaker 1: who hired Rona McDaniel in March as a commentator one 366 00:26:33,035 --> 00:26:35,635 Speaker 1: day and then fired her the next. The latest from 367 00:26:35,635 --> 00:26:42,755 Speaker 1: these geniuses. MSNBC Films bought the Errol Morris Oscar nominated 368 00:26:42,915 --> 00:26:47,475 Speaker 1: probably documentary based on the book about Trump's family separation 369 00:26:47,635 --> 00:26:51,475 Speaker 1: torture policy. The book is called Separated. It seemed like 370 00:26:51,515 --> 00:26:54,035 Speaker 1: this was a no brainer, a natural. The book was 371 00:26:54,035 --> 00:26:57,635 Speaker 1: by the NBC News correspondent Jacob sober Off, and it 372 00:26:57,755 --> 00:27:00,915 Speaker 1: was championed on air and off by both Matdow and 373 00:27:00,995 --> 00:27:06,075 Speaker 1: Chris Hayes. Turns out NBC News Chairman con and NBC 374 00:27:06,115 --> 00:27:12,675 Speaker 1: News President Blumenstein bought it to bury it. NBC News 375 00:27:12,875 --> 00:27:17,675 Speaker 1: the new home of Catch and Kill, so says filmmaker Morris. 376 00:27:18,275 --> 00:27:23,275 Speaker 1: They have scheduled the film to premiere in December. You know, 377 00:27:23,955 --> 00:27:27,995 Speaker 1: like Judge Murshan, don't dare criticize Trump before the election, 378 00:27:28,635 --> 00:27:31,835 Speaker 1: when people might be influenced by the film or by 379 00:27:31,875 --> 00:27:37,715 Speaker 1: his sentence. Wait until afterwards to avoid criticism or retribution 380 00:27:38,435 --> 00:27:41,395 Speaker 1: or putting yourself on the line, you know, one to 381 00:27:41,475 --> 00:27:44,675 Speaker 1: one millionth of a percent, says our Conde and Rebecca 382 00:27:44,715 --> 00:27:50,195 Speaker 1: Blumenthal clowns, wait. 383 00:27:50,035 --> 00:27:53,635 Speaker 4: Until the heat is off. I mean if Trump loses, 384 00:27:53,675 --> 00:27:56,275 Speaker 4: you can beat him up then, right, you don't have 385 00:27:56,315 --> 00:28:00,395 Speaker 4: to come out and take a stand, you know, stick. 386 00:28:00,155 --> 00:28:03,395 Speaker 1: To the principles of journalism. If you live in Russia 387 00:28:04,035 --> 00:28:08,955 Speaker 1: and our cows, or you're at NBC News where they 388 00:28:08,995 --> 00:28:14,195 Speaker 1: are not taking any chances anymore, cowards like Sayzarkonde and 389 00:28:14,235 --> 00:28:17,075 Speaker 1: Rebecca look at it this way. We're still running it 390 00:28:17,155 --> 00:28:21,355 Speaker 1: this year, aren't we. What do people want? Courage? I 391 00:28:21,395 --> 00:28:28,875 Speaker 1: am a mindless bureaucrat Bluenstein Today's worst persons and this 392 00:28:28,955 --> 00:28:47,635 Speaker 1: includes Chris lickt worst persons there no to the number 393 00:28:47,635 --> 00:28:50,155 Speaker 1: one story on the Countdown in this all new edition. 394 00:28:50,395 --> 00:28:53,675 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this the other week, and 395 00:28:53,755 --> 00:28:57,195 Speaker 1: then the story I was thinking about kind of updated. 396 00:28:58,155 --> 00:29:01,955 Speaker 1: Politicians generally speaking, do not have good senses of humor, 397 00:29:02,355 --> 00:29:07,595 Speaker 1: particularly they do not have good senses of humor about themselves. 398 00:29:08,315 --> 00:29:12,035 Speaker 1: There is something, as I've noted previously, to the idea 399 00:29:12,115 --> 00:29:14,755 Speaker 1: that wanting to be on television and have people listen 400 00:29:14,755 --> 00:29:17,995 Speaker 1: to your opinions about anything from I don't know who 401 00:29:17,995 --> 00:29:20,835 Speaker 1: should be next President of the United States to which 402 00:29:20,995 --> 00:29:24,315 Speaker 1: brand of detergent you should use. That this is in 403 00:29:24,355 --> 00:29:28,395 Speaker 1: fact some kind of psychological illness, but if you want 404 00:29:28,435 --> 00:29:33,715 Speaker 1: to be, say a senator, a congressman, mayor governor, President 405 00:29:33,715 --> 00:29:37,435 Speaker 1: of the United States, head of the United Nations, that 406 00:29:37,595 --> 00:29:41,715 Speaker 1: may be a far worse condition. Generally speaking, it isn't. 407 00:29:41,755 --> 00:29:44,475 Speaker 1: There aren't that many hitlers, although it turns out there 408 00:29:44,475 --> 00:29:48,995 Speaker 1: are more than we thought. In any event, very few 409 00:29:48,995 --> 00:29:51,395 Speaker 1: of them get to the positions that they get to 410 00:29:51,875 --> 00:29:57,595 Speaker 1: by letting jokes be made at their expense. Now they 411 00:29:57,675 --> 00:30:01,875 Speaker 1: probably should. The more successful ones probably would be ones 412 00:30:01,915 --> 00:30:04,915 Speaker 1: who accepted a good joke now and again about themselves Ells. 413 00:30:05,755 --> 00:30:09,555 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because the politician that I have known, 414 00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:12,315 Speaker 1: of all of them in my time, covering at about 415 00:30:12,315 --> 00:30:15,395 Speaker 1: a quarter of a century, who took a joke about 416 00:30:15,435 --> 00:30:20,555 Speaker 1: himself the best is the current President of the United States. 417 00:30:21,435 --> 00:30:24,435 Speaker 1: This might seem to be in contrast to his reputation 418 00:30:24,875 --> 00:30:27,555 Speaker 1: because he swears a lot, as we found out recently, 419 00:30:28,035 --> 00:30:31,315 Speaker 1: and he swears about other leaders, as we found out recently, 420 00:30:31,675 --> 00:30:33,875 Speaker 1: and he swears at members of the media, as we 421 00:30:33,915 --> 00:30:36,715 Speaker 1: found out recently, and he swears at leaders in his 422 00:30:36,755 --> 00:30:40,195 Speaker 1: own party, as we found out recently. But when I 423 00:30:40,795 --> 00:30:45,035 Speaker 1: kind of inadvertently and unintentionally made a joke at Joe 424 00:30:45,035 --> 00:30:49,235 Speaker 1: Biden's expense to Joe Biden face to face many years ago. 425 00:30:49,995 --> 00:30:53,235 Speaker 1: He laughed like hell. I wanted to tell that story 426 00:30:53,275 --> 00:30:56,315 Speaker 1: again before the election got too close. And then what happens. 427 00:30:56,835 --> 00:31:01,755 Speaker 1: But last week Joe Biden made a joke about himself 428 00:31:02,515 --> 00:31:07,275 Speaker 1: after somebody had made a joke about him, and it 429 00:31:07,355 --> 00:31:11,515 Speaker 1: was kind of a bitter, cruel joke about him. It 430 00:31:11,635 --> 00:31:15,515 Speaker 1: certainly was not a good spirited, hey, mister President, will 431 00:31:15,555 --> 00:31:19,315 Speaker 1: miss you kind of joke, hahaha. It really was an 432 00:31:19,315 --> 00:31:22,075 Speaker 1: attempt to kick the man when he was down. And 433 00:31:22,195 --> 00:31:25,795 Speaker 1: his result was if you have not heard it good 434 00:31:25,875 --> 00:31:32,195 Speaker 1: enough to get a big roomfull of laughter from the 435 00:31:32,235 --> 00:31:36,035 Speaker 1: people with the worst senses of humor in America, White 436 00:31:36,075 --> 00:31:37,995 Speaker 1: House reporters. 437 00:31:38,875 --> 00:31:43,275 Speaker 4: Of long range ones, do you want to reconsider dropping 438 00:31:43,315 --> 00:31:43,875 Speaker 4: out of the race? 439 00:31:45,195 --> 00:31:50,035 Speaker 1: I'm back you. Early in two thousand and seven, my 440 00:31:50,195 --> 00:31:55,115 Speaker 1: phone rang at MSNBC headquarters in New Jersey. The Senator 441 00:31:55,155 --> 00:31:57,515 Speaker 1: would like to take you to lunch the next time 442 00:31:57,555 --> 00:31:59,995 Speaker 1: he's in New York. He needs your advice. Would you 443 00:32:00,075 --> 00:32:04,595 Speaker 1: be willing to do that? It was Joe Biden's press chief. 444 00:32:06,795 --> 00:32:08,595 Speaker 1: My first reaction was to ask if they had called 445 00:32:08,595 --> 00:32:11,355 Speaker 1: the wrong number. My next reaction was to make sure. 446 00:32:11,355 --> 00:32:14,395 Speaker 1: This was not some policy question, because as a news 447 00:32:14,435 --> 00:32:18,315 Speaker 1: anchor and commentator for MSNBC, it did not seem appropriate 448 00:32:18,395 --> 00:32:22,315 Speaker 1: for me to offer advice to a candidate for his 449 00:32:22,435 --> 00:32:27,635 Speaker 1: party's presidential nomination. And doesn't that seem quaint now, Sean Hannity. 450 00:32:28,635 --> 00:32:28,715 Speaker 3: No. 451 00:32:28,875 --> 00:32:32,315 Speaker 1: I was told it was more technical, more about communications, 452 00:32:32,435 --> 00:32:39,275 Speaker 1: less about content. My antique news standards satisfied, I said sure, 453 00:32:39,915 --> 00:32:42,035 Speaker 1: And they gave me a couple of dates, and they suggested, 454 00:32:42,035 --> 00:32:44,035 Speaker 1: given his schedule, the best place for us to eat 455 00:32:44,075 --> 00:32:46,715 Speaker 1: would be a restaurant in Manhattan. And I laughed and 456 00:32:46,755 --> 00:32:48,635 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, that's great. It happens to me about 457 00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:52,675 Speaker 1: forty five seconds from my apartment. The day and the 458 00:32:52,755 --> 00:32:56,115 Speaker 1: hour arrived. It was March twenty seventh, two thousand and seven, 459 00:32:56,595 --> 00:32:58,995 Speaker 1: And I made it to the restaurant and I sat down, 460 00:32:59,075 --> 00:33:02,275 Speaker 1: and moments later in came the senator from Delaware. He 461 00:33:02,315 --> 00:33:06,715 Speaker 1: had that big welcoming smile and equally big welcoming handshake 462 00:33:06,795 --> 00:33:10,195 Speaker 1: that you may have seen from back when candidates could 463 00:33:10,195 --> 00:33:13,115 Speaker 1: still go greet the people in a crowd. He reminded 464 00:33:13,115 --> 00:33:15,435 Speaker 1: me that we had met briefly when he was in 465 00:33:15,515 --> 00:33:18,555 Speaker 1: Los Angeles for the two thousand Democratic convention, and he 466 00:33:18,635 --> 00:33:20,715 Speaker 1: happened to be staying in the hotel there in which 467 00:33:20,755 --> 00:33:24,355 Speaker 1: I lived at the time. Senator Biden then said some 468 00:33:24,475 --> 00:33:26,995 Speaker 1: nice things about my days in sports, and particularly about 469 00:33:27,035 --> 00:33:29,915 Speaker 1: the commentaries I had begun to do the previous summer 470 00:33:29,955 --> 00:33:35,315 Speaker 1: on MSNBC. Those special commentaries, he said, with first a smile, 471 00:33:35,755 --> 00:33:39,635 Speaker 1: then a whistle. There was then and there remains now 472 00:33:39,755 --> 00:33:42,835 Speaker 1: almost no space between the public Joe Biden of the 473 00:33:42,915 --> 00:33:47,355 Speaker 1: campaign or the presidency and the guy who talks informally 474 00:33:47,435 --> 00:33:50,795 Speaker 1: to some knucklehead off the streets, which in this story 475 00:33:50,835 --> 00:33:56,835 Speaker 1: would be me. There might be a few more swear words. 476 00:33:58,235 --> 00:34:00,795 Speaker 1: The word malarkey was used during our lunch, and I 477 00:34:00,795 --> 00:34:03,395 Speaker 1: remember that particularly because, as I told him, I went 478 00:34:03,395 --> 00:34:06,195 Speaker 1: to grammar school in Hastings on Hudson, New York with 479 00:34:06,235 --> 00:34:10,955 Speaker 1: a kid named Billy Malarkey. He was delighted by that, 480 00:34:10,995 --> 00:34:12,795 Speaker 1: and he said he assumed we gave the fellow a 481 00:34:12,795 --> 00:34:14,635 Speaker 1: hard time. And I said, yeah, but not because of 482 00:34:14,675 --> 00:34:18,675 Speaker 1: the name. None of us third graders knew what malarkey meant. 483 00:34:19,555 --> 00:34:22,555 Speaker 1: Then why did you give him a hard time? Senator 484 00:34:22,595 --> 00:34:28,035 Speaker 1: Biden asked, it was the third grade. I deadpanned. Everybody 485 00:34:28,075 --> 00:34:33,435 Speaker 1: gave everybody a hard time. You liked that answer, But 486 00:34:33,555 --> 00:34:36,995 Speaker 1: back to the point of the lunch, your language, he said, 487 00:34:37,035 --> 00:34:40,515 Speaker 1: in these special comments now people often brought up the 488 00:34:40,675 --> 00:34:44,235 Speaker 1: language I used to do, things like, you know, telling 489 00:34:44,275 --> 00:34:48,515 Speaker 1: President Bush to you know, shut the hell up, because 490 00:34:48,595 --> 00:34:50,875 Speaker 1: I had to say hell rather than the word I 491 00:34:50,915 --> 00:34:53,275 Speaker 1: wanted to say. And some of the events of that 492 00:34:53,315 --> 00:34:57,435 Speaker 1: presidency so infuriated me that I would Redden on camera, 493 00:34:57,675 --> 00:35:03,075 Speaker 1: and I don't Redden in a sauna. Once my high 494 00:35:03,075 --> 00:35:06,115 Speaker 1: school history teacher, a distinguished, an elegant man whose nine 495 00:35:06,195 --> 00:35:10,115 Speaker 1: older siblings had been born in Vienna and who had 496 00:35:10,155 --> 00:35:14,155 Speaker 1: the courtliness with which that would be implied, mentioned to 497 00:35:14,235 --> 00:35:16,995 Speaker 1: me the language of the special comments, and I thought, 498 00:35:16,995 --> 00:35:19,915 Speaker 1: oh boy, here at Cappens. I'm in for it now. 499 00:35:20,635 --> 00:35:24,555 Speaker 1: He Walter Schneller, had told me on the day I 500 00:35:24,635 --> 00:35:28,475 Speaker 1: graduated that my plans to become a sportscaster were very nice, 501 00:35:28,795 --> 00:35:30,955 Speaker 1: and he was sure i'd go and do that, but 502 00:35:30,955 --> 00:35:32,875 Speaker 1: that he was also sure that I would wind up 503 00:35:32,915 --> 00:35:36,915 Speaker 1: in politics someday, either as a reporter or as a combatant. 504 00:35:37,435 --> 00:35:40,555 Speaker 1: And I told him I was flattered, and I will 505 00:35:40,595 --> 00:35:43,515 Speaker 1: always like you, mister Schneller, and you're out of your mind. 506 00:35:45,195 --> 00:35:47,675 Speaker 1: Mister Sneller was also the one who, years later was 507 00:35:47,675 --> 00:35:51,515 Speaker 1: put in charge of the school's surprisingly generous fund for 508 00:35:51,675 --> 00:35:55,995 Speaker 1: bringing in speakers to address the student body. He was 509 00:35:56,155 --> 00:35:59,275 Speaker 1: very annoyed by the fact that, for decades, and he 510 00:35:59,355 --> 00:36:03,035 Speaker 1: got there in I believe nineteen sixty, all of the 511 00:36:03,075 --> 00:36:06,235 Speaker 1: speakers at the Hackley School in Tarrytown, New York had 512 00:36:06,275 --> 00:36:10,115 Speaker 1: either looked like, as he put it, Hugh Saidey, the 513 00:36:10,155 --> 00:36:14,955 Speaker 1: columnist of Time magazine, or they had actually been Hugh Saidee, 514 00:36:15,075 --> 00:36:19,915 Speaker 1: the columnist for Time Magazine. Mister Schneller began scouring the 515 00:36:19,955 --> 00:36:23,595 Speaker 1: Northeast for anybody smart who might have a diverse background, 516 00:36:23,635 --> 00:36:26,075 Speaker 1: and that is how he happened to be driving to 517 00:36:26,115 --> 00:36:29,475 Speaker 1: the railroad station at Tarrytown, New York, one morning in 518 00:36:29,515 --> 00:36:32,115 Speaker 1: the year nineteen ninety one to meet the train that 519 00:36:32,315 --> 00:36:36,435 Speaker 1: carried that day's guest speaker at the Hackley School. He 520 00:36:36,515 --> 00:36:39,075 Speaker 1: was an editor of the Harvard Law Review, and his 521 00:36:39,155 --> 00:36:45,715 Speaker 1: name was Barack Obama. Anyway, mister Schneller and I were 522 00:36:45,755 --> 00:36:49,835 Speaker 1: talking about the commentaries, and he said about the language Keith, 523 00:36:50,155 --> 00:36:54,955 Speaker 1: and I braced myself and preemptively apologized, no, no, He said, urgently, 524 00:36:54,995 --> 00:36:59,035 Speaker 1: you missed my point entirely. I'm amazed that your language 525 00:36:59,075 --> 00:37:04,595 Speaker 1: is so restrained. If I was speaking, I'd have called 526 00:37:04,715 --> 00:37:09,475 Speaker 1: mister bush a whereupon mister Schneller made reference to somebody's mother. 527 00:37:11,355 --> 00:37:15,115 Speaker 1: So back to lunch. When Senator Biden asked about the 528 00:37:15,195 --> 00:37:18,555 Speaker 1: language I used, I was wary, but he followed it 529 00:37:18,635 --> 00:37:20,475 Speaker 1: up by saying that it was kind of why he 530 00:37:20,555 --> 00:37:23,795 Speaker 1: had asked me to lunch. I watch the commentary as 531 00:37:23,795 --> 00:37:27,235 Speaker 1: you do. I don't have a choice. Everybody sends me 532 00:37:27,275 --> 00:37:31,035 Speaker 1: the videos, and my staffers tell me about them. And 533 00:37:31,115 --> 00:37:34,195 Speaker 1: every time I think the same thing, you express anger. 534 00:37:34,755 --> 00:37:36,755 Speaker 1: But as close as you come to the line, you 535 00:37:36,835 --> 00:37:39,955 Speaker 1: never go across it. I say to my staff folks, 536 00:37:40,035 --> 00:37:42,795 Speaker 1: is he too angry for you? And they all say no, 537 00:37:43,475 --> 00:37:46,355 Speaker 1: just right. So here's my question, and then we can 538 00:37:46,435 --> 00:37:49,835 Speaker 1: enjoy this great lunch. When I'm passionate about something and 539 00:37:49,875 --> 00:37:52,795 Speaker 1: I speak on the Senate floor, or on the campaign 540 00:37:52,875 --> 00:37:55,355 Speaker 1: or anywhere else, I get told by my friends and 541 00:37:55,395 --> 00:37:59,035 Speaker 1: by my enemies, you're too angry. And when I really 542 00:37:59,115 --> 00:38:03,395 Speaker 1: am angry, they all say, you're really too angry. And 543 00:38:03,435 --> 00:38:08,275 Speaker 1: here Joey and laughed. Now you you go on TV, 544 00:38:08,875 --> 00:38:14,235 Speaker 1: far larger audience, far longer speeches and people say that Olderman, 545 00:38:14,315 --> 00:38:20,235 Speaker 1: he's righteously indignant. With a mixture of laughter, astonishment, and curiosity, 546 00:38:20,275 --> 00:38:29,195 Speaker 1: he said me, I'm angry you. You are righteously indignant. 547 00:38:30,395 --> 00:38:32,635 Speaker 1: How do you do it? How do you do it? Man? 548 00:38:33,795 --> 00:38:40,715 Speaker 1: Can you tell me? Without thinking? I replied, you've been 549 00:38:40,715 --> 00:38:44,995 Speaker 1: in the Senate for how long? Now, Senator thirty four years? 550 00:38:45,715 --> 00:38:50,195 Speaker 1: He nodded, And you're only just asking this question now. 551 00:38:52,275 --> 00:38:55,555 Speaker 1: The words were barely out of my mouth when I froze. 552 00:38:56,115 --> 00:38:59,555 Speaker 1: This wasn't a friend or a colleague, or even an 553 00:38:59,635 --> 00:39:02,435 Speaker 1: athlete who would take the little joking jab I had 554 00:39:02,515 --> 00:39:06,275 Speaker 1: just thrown. This was a politician. They may have senses 555 00:39:06,315 --> 00:39:09,595 Speaker 1: of humor, but very few have senses of humor about themselves. 556 00:39:10,675 --> 00:39:13,715 Speaker 1: In that split second, I was confident Joe Biden would 557 00:39:13,715 --> 00:39:18,235 Speaker 1: get up and leave. And he was silent for a moment, 558 00:39:18,715 --> 00:39:20,875 Speaker 1: and then the corners of his mouth turned up, and 559 00:39:20,915 --> 00:39:25,915 Speaker 1: to my great relief, he burst into laughter. He rocked 560 00:39:26,075 --> 00:39:28,875 Speaker 1: back into his chair, He slapped the table with a palm. 561 00:39:29,035 --> 00:39:34,915 Speaker 1: My god, that's funny. More laughter, My god, that's true, 562 00:39:35,195 --> 00:39:40,355 Speaker 1: louder laughter. I do not apologize when I say I 563 00:39:40,395 --> 00:39:45,555 Speaker 1: have loved him ever since I didn't think I actually 564 00:39:45,555 --> 00:39:49,075 Speaker 1: would have had much advice for him, and was prepared 565 00:39:49,115 --> 00:39:51,155 Speaker 1: to just go through the lunch having lunch. But as 566 00:39:51,195 --> 00:39:54,675 Speaker 1: we talked about this topic, he asked me follow up 567 00:39:54,715 --> 00:39:57,995 Speaker 1: questions that made me analyze for the first time some 568 00:39:58,035 --> 00:40:03,195 Speaker 1: of the processes I used unknowingly when writing and reading 569 00:40:03,275 --> 00:40:05,755 Speaker 1: on television. I had never thought them before because I 570 00:40:05,755 --> 00:40:09,395 Speaker 1: had never had had lunch with Joe Biden before. I 571 00:40:09,435 --> 00:40:11,595 Speaker 1: will not bore you with the full results of the 572 00:40:11,675 --> 00:40:15,235 Speaker 1: dissection of the process or how to turn anger into 573 00:40:15,355 --> 00:40:18,635 Speaker 1: righteous indignation, if that's really what I was doing. The 574 00:40:18,715 --> 00:40:21,635 Speaker 1: most valuable conclusion was simply the oldest one in the book. 575 00:40:21,835 --> 00:40:25,955 Speaker 1: I always wrote late at night while fully angry, and 576 00:40:25,995 --> 00:40:28,875 Speaker 1: then in the morning I would take a lot of 577 00:40:28,875 --> 00:40:35,915 Speaker 1: things out, usually adjectives. Whatever anger was left was only 578 00:40:36,035 --> 00:40:39,475 Speaker 1: the most intense and the most justifiable. And if you 579 00:40:39,595 --> 00:40:42,195 Speaker 1: present it twenty four hours after you have written it, 580 00:40:42,715 --> 00:40:45,595 Speaker 1: you will be in control of the anger and not 581 00:40:45,675 --> 00:40:47,995 Speaker 1: have the anger be in control of you in short 582 00:40:49,675 --> 00:40:54,595 Speaker 1: sleep on it. That was in March two thousand and seven. 583 00:40:54,675 --> 00:40:57,035 Speaker 1: I saw the Senator next. In August of two thousand 584 00:40:57,035 --> 00:41:01,115 Speaker 1: and seven, a Democratic primary debate officially called the AFL 585 00:41:01,235 --> 00:41:07,235 Speaker 1: CIO Candidates Forum, Soldier Field, Chicago, outdoors ninety five degrees, 586 00:41:07,955 --> 00:41:14,795 Speaker 1: threat of thunderstorms, Obama, Clinton, Biden, Dodd Richardson, Kucinich, Edwards, 587 00:41:15,155 --> 00:41:21,195 Speaker 1: and the moderator me. There are photos of this Joe 588 00:41:21,195 --> 00:41:24,315 Speaker 1: Biden and I walking towards each other, hands extended for 589 00:41:24,355 --> 00:41:27,115 Speaker 1: a greeting. He is literally asking me if I have 590 00:41:27,235 --> 00:41:30,235 Speaker 1: noticed that he has been trying to turn his anger 591 00:41:30,555 --> 00:41:35,755 Speaker 1: into righteous indignation, and Senator Biden asking if I thought 592 00:41:35,755 --> 00:41:40,955 Speaker 1: he had succeeded. They are great photos, largely because my 593 00:41:41,035 --> 00:41:45,075 Speaker 1: back is to the camera. He did not really succeed 594 00:41:45,155 --> 00:41:48,355 Speaker 1: in doing this in the debate, though, and he actually 595 00:41:48,395 --> 00:41:51,355 Speaker 1: came over to me during the commercial and told me 596 00:41:52,195 --> 00:41:54,395 Speaker 1: what he was going to do, that he didn't think 597 00:41:54,435 --> 00:41:59,075 Speaker 1: he'd actually gotten the chance to answer a previous question sufficiently, 598 00:41:59,155 --> 00:42:00,635 Speaker 1: and he was going to go back to it the 599 00:42:00,635 --> 00:42:03,075 Speaker 1: next time. I called on him, and I told him, don't, don't, 600 00:42:03,235 --> 00:42:06,955 Speaker 1: don't do that. They did it anyway, and later he 601 00:42:07,075 --> 00:42:11,355 Speaker 1: let me know he should have listened to me. Since then, 602 00:42:11,435 --> 00:42:15,915 Speaker 1: I cannot recall him being angry, not even in those 603 00:42:16,035 --> 00:42:23,355 Speaker 1: debates with that goddamned madman. The words were harsh, cutting, destructive, 604 00:42:24,115 --> 00:42:35,315 Speaker 1: fatal the tone No, the tone was dismissive, disappointed, slept 605 00:42:35,435 --> 00:42:41,035 Speaker 1: upon rage, perfect a plus no notes. But it occurs 606 00:42:41,075 --> 00:42:44,035 Speaker 1: to me in all of the analysis of all of 607 00:42:44,155 --> 00:42:48,115 Speaker 1: the changes in Joe Biden since day one in nineteen 608 00:42:48,355 --> 00:42:52,555 Speaker 1: seventy three, nobody touches on this one thing. As late 609 00:42:52,755 --> 00:42:55,915 Speaker 1: as two thousand and seven, he seemed to be his 610 00:42:56,115 --> 00:43:01,875 Speaker 1: reputation was as a hot head. When was the last 611 00:43:01,915 --> 00:43:06,955 Speaker 1: time he was accused of that. I'm not saying I 612 00:43:07,115 --> 00:43:12,035 Speaker 1: had anything to do with that, But in the years now, 613 00:43:12,195 --> 00:43:17,395 Speaker 1: since January sixth particularly, it has been a comforting change, 614 00:43:18,755 --> 00:43:23,275 Speaker 1: and not a change within Joe Biden, but within our presidency. 615 00:43:36,635 --> 00:43:38,355 Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank 616 00:43:38,395 --> 00:43:40,715 Speaker 1: you for listening. We're now back to five episodes a week, 617 00:43:40,755 --> 00:43:44,155 Speaker 1: posting nightly just after midnight Eastern. Once again, there is 618 00:43:44,235 --> 00:43:47,755 Speaker 1: a Monday Countdown. Please send this podcast to somebody who 619 00:43:47,835 --> 00:43:50,195 Speaker 1: does not know that they need to listen? What who 620 00:43:50,315 --> 00:43:53,675 Speaker 1: needs to listen? 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My announcer today is my friend 630 00:44:24,275 --> 00:44:27,635 Speaker 1: Kenny Main and everything else was pretty much my fault. 631 00:44:28,275 --> 00:44:31,795 Speaker 1: That's countdown for today. Three weeks and six days until 632 00:44:31,875 --> 00:44:36,115 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four presidential election, the three and seventy 633 00:44:36,235 --> 00:44:40,515 Speaker 1: third day since convicted felon drooling Jay Trump's first attempted 634 00:44:40,635 --> 00:44:43,875 Speaker 1: coup against the democratically elected government of the United States. 635 00:44:44,555 --> 00:44:47,595 Speaker 1: Use the election, use the metal health system, use presidential immunity. 636 00:44:47,595 --> 00:44:51,755 Speaker 1: If we have to to keep him from doing it again. Wow, 637 00:44:51,835 --> 00:44:56,315 Speaker 1: we still can. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Bulletin 638 00:44:56,355 --> 00:44:59,715 Speaker 1: says the news requires until then, I'm Keith Olriman, good morning, 639 00:44:59,795 --> 00:45:11,955 Speaker 1: good afternoon, goodnight, and good luck. That was called missing. 640 00:45:11,995 --> 00:45:12,675 Speaker 2: The post. 641 00:45:24,515 --> 00:45:28,435 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For 642 00:45:28,635 --> 00:45:33,515 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 643 00:45:33,835 --> 00:45:35,755 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.