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Speaker 1: it's it's ten hours on a good day. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor,

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Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to

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Speaker 1: five six one in and now running. Sir Isaac Newton

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Speaker 1: said in six five. If I have seen further, it's

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Speaker 1: by standing on the shoulders of giants. And I feel

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Speaker 1: And this hour, this week, actually this hour and next hour,

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Speaker 1: have a very special guest, Wayne Carini from Chasing class

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Speaker 1: I absolutely promise you want to stick around this week

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Speaker 1: Somewhere around two thousand four, Jim Lebret came out with

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Speaker 1: Welcome towards sir. Well, good morning, a good afternoon to

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Speaker 1: nice sunny day when the sun's right on it. But

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Speaker 1: the reason why the only work fifteen percent of the

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Speaker 1: times because it's doc every single night of the year

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Speaker 1: it's cloudy, rainy, snowy, that covered with snow and so forth.

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Speaker 1: So the end up with about fifteen Now I know

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Speaker 1: this is a national program, so you know, some people

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Speaker 1: in other parts of the state are saying, hey, we

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Speaker 1: have higher than fifteen percent capacity factor. We understand that,

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Speaker 1: but I want to tell you when you take the

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Speaker 1: magnitude of what we use for energy in this country,

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Speaker 1: we use one hundred quard of energy a year, that's

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Speaker 1: one hundred times ten to the eighteen p t u s.

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Speaker 1: That's I've been ten of the world's energy consumption, and

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Speaker 1: we're less than five percent of the world population. Now.

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Speaker 1: Part of this one part of energy consists of twenty

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Speaker 1: million barrels of oil we use every day. And I'd

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Speaker 1: like to put that in these terms. Run If you

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Speaker 1: twenty million barrels, if you put an end to end,

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Speaker 1: they'll go from Maine to California four rows wide. So

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Speaker 1: when you're get in your car and every day you

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Speaker 1: drive towards California and as far as the eye can

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Speaker 1: see four rows of barrels, and day after day, by

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Speaker 1: the time you get to California, you have seen twenty

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Speaker 1: million barrels of oil. That's what we burn in one day,

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Speaker 1: every day. And Jim, let me ask you this question.

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Speaker 1: So are you saying that? And let's just talk about

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Speaker 1: in relation to the state of Maine. I'll make it.

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Speaker 1: I'll make it an easy question. I think, just in

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Speaker 1: relation to the state of Maine, if all the vehicles

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Speaker 1: in Maine, beginning today, and they've flipped at a percentage

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Speaker 1: rate every year, became electric, could main build the facilities

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Speaker 1: to charge those vehicles over the course of the next

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Speaker 1: twenty years. Now, where are they going to get it?

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Speaker 1: They're taking They stopped all kinds of hydro here in Maine,

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Speaker 1: which we have a lot of hydro that's what's giving

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Speaker 1: us a clean electricity. They've shut down paper mills that

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Speaker 1: we're producing a lot of co generation. UH. They've pulled

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Speaker 1: up dams. They're preventing very large hydro damn in right

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Speaker 1: over the border here in Maine, UH in Canada from

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Speaker 1: sending hydro power UH down to us where Maine would

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Speaker 1: take off some of it and the bulk of it

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Speaker 1: goes to Boston and UH. The solar and wind people

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Speaker 1: and then some oil people that have oil by a

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Speaker 1: generation here in Maine. UH fighting that tooth and nail,

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Speaker 1: major fight going on here in Maine. So we had

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Speaker 1: we had damns, the big damn, the Lincoln Project which

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Speaker 1: is another big hydro. We had the Basin Mills project

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Speaker 1: on the Pronops Cart River. All those kinds of things

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Speaker 1: were all shot down by all these environmentalists that want

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Speaker 1: solar and wind. Solar and wind a stochastic energy sources.

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Speaker 1: Stochastic means unpredictable. You can't tell me exactly a year

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Speaker 1: from today at this time, what if the wind's gonna

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Speaker 1: blow which direction and how long and how fast? Well,

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Speaker 1: and isn't there an issue? Isn't there an issue with

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Speaker 1: the wind? You know? Now we hear the stories about

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Speaker 1: the windmills that generate electricity. We're about to take a break,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to I'll leave you with this thought.

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Speaker 1: You can think about it, that the windmills that are

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Speaker 1: generating the electricity. Let's talk about this when we come back.

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Speaker 1: There's a problem with the blades, right, the fan blades.

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Speaker 1: They're they're they're breaking apart the fiberglass. And now they've

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Speaker 1: got these piles of fiberglass wind blades, And where are

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Speaker 1: they going to put them from? And how do you

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Speaker 1: take those out of commission that they can generate electricity?

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Speaker 1: Hauld that thought, and when I return, we'll finish this conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'm running. Any of the car doctor who with Jim

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Speaker 1: le Breck will both be back right after this. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back on any of the car doctor who the Jim Labreck.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump right back into a gym. When we pulled

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Speaker 1: away for the pause. Uh, the conversation was about the

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Speaker 1: blades on the on the windmills, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: as someone on Facebook just pointed out to me, I

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Speaker 1: thought they were carbon fiber. I believe they are. They're

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Speaker 1: carbon fiber, and I think some are fiberglass. But regardless

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Speaker 1: of what they're made of, there's a disposal issue, right,

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Speaker 1: What are they doing with all these What can they

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Speaker 1: do with all of them? Isn't there a problem? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well it's going to be another issue about not in

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Speaker 1: my back yard. Uh. Now, the amount of the wind

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Speaker 1: turbans that you have things, you brought this up. The

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Speaker 1: waste dealing with these turbans and with solar panels is

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Speaker 1: and of all, I mean one of these wind blades,

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Speaker 1: just one of the three blades on one window is

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Speaker 1: wind turbine is uh, you know, a great big tractor

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Speaker 1: trailer truck extra extra along with police escorts and everything

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Speaker 1: around it. Uh, gig in the haulose where to Wyoming

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Speaker 1: or someplace, and uh have some gigantic bone yard and

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Speaker 1: you're going to need to put those up there every

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Speaker 1: fifteen years or so. You've got to replace them. The

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Speaker 1: transmission and those uh big big wind turbans were going prematurely.

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Speaker 1: So Congress ended up giving him another tax credit to

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Speaker 1: put the new ones that they claim are a little

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Speaker 1: bit more efficient. But I'll tell you something I calculated

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Speaker 1: for Government of page upf Uh, how many of those

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Speaker 1: wind turbines we need to displace the four inger and

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Speaker 1: took founder and two four homes uh that are presently

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Speaker 1: eating with oil? And we would need seven hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty two mountains full of wind turbans with turbans on

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Speaker 1: each mountain, twenty one turbans and all. That's that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's insane, you know. Yeah, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question, Jim. You know, I

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Speaker 1: was reading in your bio and your conversation, your your

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Speaker 1: slide presentation that you've been making. You talk about there'll

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Speaker 1: be twelve billion that's billion with a B pounds of

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Speaker 1: waste batteries per year starting ten years after the first

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Speaker 1: big rollout of vvs. What do you do with that waste?

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Speaker 1: What do you do with that waste? That's twelve billion

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Speaker 1: pounds of batteries? That's right, Well, the first I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're going to hit that problem because I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're going to be able to find twelve billion

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Speaker 1: pounds of um of the resources that the finite resources

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Speaker 1: we need to make that stuff. And those are my

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Speaker 1: uh concerns. But even bigger than that, I calculated for

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Speaker 1: one nuclear power plant worth of energy, or actually did

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Speaker 1: for the big power line that they want to bring

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Speaker 1: down to UH Maine here from for hydro power, and

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Speaker 1: UH if you on it, to displace that same power

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Speaker 1: with UH with solar, you would need to have solar

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Speaker 1: panels put end to end. Equivalent number of solar panels

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Speaker 1: end to end would wrap a little over one time

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Speaker 1: around Earth and all the way into Pennsylvania. UH, after

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Speaker 1: going around the Earth one time. That's an incredible amount.

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Speaker 1: Now to dispose of those you need to unload in

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Speaker 1: twenty years from now. You need to unload attract a

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Speaker 1: trailer truck full of solar panels every half hour, twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours a day for five years, steady okay. Where

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Speaker 1: that's just for that one power line that people are

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Speaker 1: fighting on this So and that's the kind of baseload,

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Speaker 1: the type of deterministic power that we need to be

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Speaker 1: able a charge cars and heat homes and run industry

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Speaker 1: and so forth. Uh. You know, you can't have all

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Speaker 1: this intermittent, unreliable sources of energy at on a coal

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Speaker 1: one tonight when you have a tremendous demand for a

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Speaker 1: tremendous demand for your automobiles to charge them up and

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Speaker 1: run electric keats in the car and everything else at

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Speaker 1: the same time, there's no sign and the wind is

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Speaker 1: not blowing. What are you gonna do? Right? What are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do, Jim? Real quick? In thirty seconds, Electric

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Speaker 1: cars in fifteen years gonna go yes or no. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they'll uh, they'll be. They're gonna hit a stone wall.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna The automobile industries all set. They can make

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Speaker 1: those fast. You just can't change the infrastructure, the electrical

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Speaker 1: transmission and infrastructure, to the tune of trillions of dollars

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Speaker 1: fast enough. Especially, we don't have the man power to

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Speaker 1: do it. You can't even find a plumber electrician to

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Speaker 1: come to some service at your house, let alone trillions

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Speaker 1: of tall lets worth of highly technical resources to change

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Speaker 1: our whole electric infrastructure. I think the auto industry has

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Speaker 1: got to make it. They can do it. It isn't

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Speaker 1: going to be supported. So and that's what we'll down Jim.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have you back one day. I'm sorry we

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Speaker 1: ran out of time. But some excellent talking points. We'll

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Speaker 1: start at the top of the hour of the next

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Speaker 1: go around. We appreciate you taking the time. Jim Lebrec,

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Speaker 1: I'm Roninadian, the Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back when I'm naming the car Doctor. I want

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Speaker 1: to say thanks again to Jim Lebrec. It was it

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Speaker 1: was an interesting half hour to talk about some of

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Speaker 1: the things we didn't get to. I saw it as

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Speaker 1: bio notes. He he talks about um seventeen million new

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Speaker 1: cars a year to replace old guests engine cars. And

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Speaker 1: he asked the question, where you're gonna find all the

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Speaker 1: resources to make all the magnets, batteries and and components

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Speaker 1: to make these vehicles up. And he brings up a point.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've got to tell you, and I've got

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Speaker 1: no agenda here, all right, I'll be very upfront with you.

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Speaker 1: I've always been upfront with you the thirty years I'm

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Speaker 1: on radio, and you come talk to me in the

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Speaker 1: shop on this exact same way. This is no false front.

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Speaker 1: I have no I have no agenda here. I don't

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Speaker 1: care in sense of you know what, whatever comes in

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Speaker 1: the door will fix it. It doesn't matter to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring the point to you guys, because

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Speaker 1: I've been accused lately of an anti electric vehicle rhetoric. No,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a point of common sense. You've got one

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Speaker 1: person after another telling you that we don't have the resources,

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Speaker 1: we don't have the infrastructure, we don't have the ability

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Speaker 1: to do this. But people that are driving electric vehicles.

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Speaker 1: I think the electric vehicle population right now, the percentage

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Speaker 1: of the fleet is less than three percent. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the number. So we're letting the three percenters drive

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Speaker 1: the n and convince them that electric vehicles are a

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Speaker 1: way to go. How are you going to do that?

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Speaker 1: The government has a better chance of coming out with

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Speaker 1: a mandate that says, effective today at five o'clock, nobody's

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Speaker 1: gonna grow older. You know. That's it. We're gonna stop

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Speaker 1: a it's we're gonna end the process. You can't do it.

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Speaker 1: I think electric cars have a place. I think there

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Speaker 1: is a percentage of the fleet that should be electric.

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Speaker 1: Amazon delivery vehicles, all delivery vehicles. The situation where you

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Speaker 1: want to put an elderly person in a vehicle that

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Speaker 1: can't drive anymore, you want to send them to the doctor,

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Speaker 1: making a self driving car and let it take them

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Speaker 1: to this address and get them in and out, stop

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Speaker 1: and drop and pick up kids at school, from school

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Speaker 1: to school. You get my point. But the entire fleet,

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Speaker 1: you know what, it doesn't make any sense from a

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Speaker 1: perspective of what resources just saying. You guys proved me wrong.

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Speaker 1: But I'm all four it. Let's have electric vehicles. I

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Speaker 1: just want to know how until the next time. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for stopping by. I'm on Anny in the car, doctor,

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Speaker 1: good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See you. She starts

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