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Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by called Light to Health.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we are. It's Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker with you. One Bill's Live is the show, and

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Speaker 1: I am promising you today our show is not going

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Speaker 1: to be hijacked by yet another retirement of Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: We will mention it, we will reflect on it momentarily,

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Speaker 1: and then we are moving on. I'm not giving time

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Speaker 1: to this guy. I'm sorry, color me jaded, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to do. My favorite line from the coverage so

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Speaker 1: far was a line on that show first take on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was Molly Carram who said it, and

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Speaker 1: she said, you gotta respect Tom Brady, a guy who

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Speaker 1: never cheated the game. Brownie lost it. When are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? Did you actually put that sentence together beforehand

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Speaker 1: or did you just say it off the cuff. Never

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Speaker 1: cheated the game? Okay? I thought, okay, I thought Brown

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Speaker 1: He had three veins pop out of my never cheated

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Speaker 1: the game, Get the heck out of here with that,

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Speaker 1: get the heck out of here good. So he's got

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Speaker 1: to hide behind a sand dune and retire a second time,

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Speaker 1: here's my take. But the Patriots and there and the

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Speaker 1: all the Super Bowls they went to and one, um,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing that they You would think in a perfect

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Speaker 1: world a team and a franchise who was able to

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Speaker 1: do that, even with one quarterback who's who's very good,

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Speaker 1: who's awesome, that would they would just get way more

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Speaker 1: the game. I don't see that happening. In fact, the

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Speaker 1: people I talked to, they're all like they you know,

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Speaker 1: they're kind of like shrug their shoulders, say yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: there's none of this in back rooms where people whisper

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Speaker 1: in all like, wow, those guys are really good. They

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Speaker 1: really got to go. There's none of that. Because there

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Speaker 1: is such a specter of secretive and being caught cheating

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Speaker 1: on so many different avenues of the game. They just

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Speaker 1: don't get the respect a team who has won that

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Speaker 1: that just screams that they have secrets to keep. So

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Speaker 1: they're and I think some of that goes over in

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's careers. So people are just kind of he

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Speaker 1: doesn't get that kind of level of respect because of

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Speaker 1: the specter of all the stuff they've been caught doing

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Speaker 1: outside the rules. So while Brady is playing, even just

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Speaker 1: playing the game like he did for as long as

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Speaker 1: he get to the age of forty five, is a

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Speaker 1: remarkable achievement, no question about it. But with the franchise

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Speaker 1: the specter that is always there with them, he'll never

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Speaker 1: not going to get what you would think a guy

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Speaker 1: of that. He's far and away, his numbers and his

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Speaker 1: accomplishments are just dwarf everybody's. But because of the specter

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Speaker 1: of cheating that is associated with him, and never get

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Speaker 1: he would's That's where I'm at right now, right and

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Speaker 1: I think more of that cheating history falls on Belichick

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Speaker 1: than it does on But Brady was suspended. Well, he

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Speaker 1: was a beneficiary of it. Yeah, he was a beneficiary

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Speaker 1: of them that we know, namely deflate game. So fine,

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Speaker 1: to unfortunately see on Fox as an analyst. But whatever, dude, yeah, whatever,

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Speaker 1: you go. Belichick. By the way, he hasn't won a playoff.

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Speaker 1: gonna get to more encouraging topics. Damar Hamlet has teamed

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Speaker 1: in the process. We have some coaching carousel news that

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Speaker 1: Chad Hall will be interviewing with the Baltimore Ravens for

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Speaker 1: Chad Hall has given him this so that other teams

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Speaker 1: We are going around the NFL, which is presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: and the head coaching openings filled up fast. Yesterday we

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Speaker 1: But they got Russell. Think about it though, they got

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Speaker 1: in a calendar year. Yeah, that's bad. It's really bad.

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Speaker 1: It's really bad. Now, they I have said, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this has changed. I think I might have

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Speaker 1: said this before I'm talking to somebody about it. That

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Speaker 1: they The adage always was when I was playing that

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Speaker 1: if you allow yourself complete to be completely healed from

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Speaker 1: a concussion, you're no more susceptible to getting another one

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Speaker 1: than you would have been otherwise without the first concussion.

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Speaker 1: But the less one hundred percent you are and getting

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Speaker 1: and receive even another concussion, it takes less forced to

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Speaker 1: give you the second concussion, and subsequently, if you don't

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Speaker 1: heal from the second concussion, it takes less to give

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Speaker 1: you the third and less to give you the fourth.

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Speaker 1: So that it's it's imperative that you completely get away

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Speaker 1: from that concussion and get one hundred percent healed before

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Speaker 1: you go back and risk another one, because then it

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Speaker 1: does get then it does get bad. But that's what

443
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Speaker 1: we were always told as players that if you do

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Speaker 1: get one hundred percent out of the other concussion, you're

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Speaker 1: no more susceptible to a new one. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if medical medical information has told us differently at this point. Yeah,

447
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: so best of luck to him, but man, it's I'm

448
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: gonna cringe. I don't even root for that guy, and

449
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to cringe every time he takes a hit.

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Speaker 1: I really am, just because of his concussion history. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 1: so hope the best for him, but man, it's gonna

452
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Speaker 1: be tough playing that position, primarily because he's not good

453
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Speaker 1: at avoiding the big hits. He's really not well, and

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Speaker 1: he's not big, and you know he's somewhat mobile, but

455
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Speaker 1: he's not really exceptionally mobile. Brownie. He say he's not

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Speaker 1: good at avoiding the big hits. Those concussions weren't None

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Speaker 1: of them were bigg No. They well know that he

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Speaker 1: banged his head on the ground. And you know, Dolphin

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Speaker 1: fans as as every fan base would do, I mean

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Speaker 1: Dolphin fans when you know Matt Milano is the guy

461
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Speaker 1: that kind of pushed to He threw the ball and

462
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: Matt pushed him down and he got the concussion from that.

463
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Speaker 1: He got up staggering, and that's when the finger quote

464
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Speaker 1: back injury happened before the next one. Then when he

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Speaker 1: really went down, you know, that was not a bad hit.

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Speaker 1: And then the other one was the whip down. He

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Speaker 1: got whipped down onto the ground by on Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that was on the Thursday game that followed the

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Speaker 1: Sunday where he had the back injury, which was a

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Speaker 1: concussion was we all believe, and then it was it

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Speaker 1: was turned into a bad So. To wrap up around

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Speaker 1: the NFL, there are only two remaining head coaching openings left,

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00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: that being the Cardinals and the Colts, and we'll see

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Speaker 1: how quickly those are filled now that the dominoes have

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Speaker 1: begun to fall. Topic of discussion today, what are your

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Speaker 1: top two roster priorities for the Bills this offseason, whether

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Speaker 1: it's offense, defense, special teams, where do you place the

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Speaker 1: roster priorities? Your top two for this team for this offseason?

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three five fifty one fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: then number to get on board. We have some open

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Speaker 1: lines for you there coming up in the second hour

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Speaker 1: or the show, we will have salary cap guru Mike

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Speaker 1: Janitti joining us from spottrack dot Com really all in

484
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Speaker 1: one site for keeping an eye on the cap how

485
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: things could work for your team, even as some interactive

486
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: tools you can use if you want to run through

487
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Speaker 1: restructuring this guy or that guy for your team, you

488
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Speaker 1: can do all of that on his sight. Some really

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Speaker 1: good stuff on there. So we'll be good to catch

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Speaker 1: up with Mike in the second hour of the show

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Speaker 1: as we talk off season priorities with him as well,

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Speaker 1: But we want to talk with you first at eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty one eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. What are your top two roster priorities

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Speaker 1: with the Bills roster this off season. We take a

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Speaker 1: break here, but we're back with your phone calls and

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Speaker 1: your tweets next on One Bills Live, presented by Colloid

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Speaker 1: to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 1: What are your top two roster priorities for the Bills

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Speaker 1: this off season? You can let us know at eighth

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Speaker 1: three five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: We go to the phones now and we lead off

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Speaker 1: with Al in West Seneca what do you got for us? All?

505
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: You're on one bills live. Thank you Brownie and Steve

506
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Speaker 1: for the show, and I watch almost every day. I

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Speaker 1: would think I was asking maybe about free agency for

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Speaker 1: the offensive line or maybe draft picks. I would like

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Speaker 1: to hear you you're comment on that also, mister Brownie,

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Speaker 1: have you ever heard of Dowar three and get your

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Speaker 1: shaving supplies and that right there? All right, thank you,

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Speaker 1: all right, appreciate that. Thanks al, appreciate the tip. I

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Speaker 1: was joking yesterday that all those stores of the dollar

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Speaker 1: twenty five stores now because of inflation, apparently you can

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Speaker 1: get shaving supplies there pretty well. I just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. Yeah, so I'll have to check that out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: offensive line, we are on board completely. I just know

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Speaker 1: what the and we'll talk to Mike Jindy about this

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Speaker 1: more in the second hour of the show. But with

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Speaker 1: the cost prohibitive nature of Buffalo's current cap situation and

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Speaker 1: when they're gonna have to jumped through some hoops to

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Speaker 1: get under let alone create the space necessary to maybe

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Speaker 1: sign some free agents, I don't know if they're going

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Speaker 1: to have to have the wherewithal financially to go after

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Speaker 1: some of the top people on the free agent market

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Speaker 1: at the offensive line positions. Or Orlando Brown, for example,

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Speaker 1: the left tackle for the Chiefs. He's going to be

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Speaker 1: a free agent. He's also going to make over twenty

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. The Bills are not going to

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Speaker 1: be competing in that financial bracket for that kind of talent,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't think based on their cap situation. So they're

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Speaker 1: going to have to be a little bit more creative

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Speaker 1: on the free agent market. And then I think they

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Speaker 1: are going to have to invest draft capital in their

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Speaker 1: offensive line primarily, and then if they can fill in

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Speaker 1: some spots with some low priced free agents, that's how

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Speaker 1: they'll do it. Much like they did last year, they'll

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Speaker 1: do it again this year, and I think they will

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Speaker 1: draft some offensive linemen, you know, up with their first

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Speaker 1: couple of picks, maybe maybe both, maybe like they did

541
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Speaker 1: the defensive end spot, you know where they did Boogie

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Speaker 1: Bash him and Greg Rousseau the same year that I

543
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised at that. But I am totally with

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Speaker 1: Alan West Seneca out. Yeah, I think free agency is

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Speaker 1: going to be where they signed some veteran free agents

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Speaker 1: like they did last year, they're going to draft some

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Speaker 1: of these guys, some new guys. I yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think that's where they begin. Now.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna attack it on all fronts. They're gonna sign

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Speaker 1: a veteran wide receiver, They're gonna sign with some traits.

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00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: They're gonna sign these offensive linemen. They'll probably sign some

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen and then the defensive tackle probably all of

553
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: that stuff. But they will attack the roster on all

554
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Speaker 1: fronts like they always do, and the players they bring

555
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Speaker 1: in are going to compete. That's the way it is.

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Speaker 1: But that's where I'm with you. That's where I begin.

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Speaker 1: You got to bring in protection and weapons for Josh.

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Speaker 1: Job one. Let's go back to the phones and we

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Speaker 1: go to Scott in Tonawanda. Next. What do you got

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Speaker 1: for a Scott You're on one Bill's Live. Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I think the first position that I would try to

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Speaker 1: address is the defensive line. I mean, we were exposed

563
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Speaker 1: quite a bit during the season with run games and

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Speaker 1: not being able to put a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. I don't know where they get those players,

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Speaker 1: but the defensive line looks a little weak. And the

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Speaker 1: second position and you guys will probably laugh at me

568
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Speaker 1: as I still say we need a good running game,

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Speaker 1: some running game, but the other coaches can kind of

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Speaker 1: fear a little bit. I don't think that our running

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Speaker 1: game right now put the fear in anybody. So thanks

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Speaker 1: for taking my call. Guys. Okay, yeah, you're right, and Scott,

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Speaker 1: you're I get it. I'll say this, the Bills do

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Speaker 1: have a different kind of running game than most teams

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Speaker 1: because Josh is a part of it. And most people

576
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: cringe at that thought. But the last three or four

577
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Speaker 1: game last month of the season, Josh hardly ran at all,

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Speaker 1: and the running game was still a factor. You know.

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Speaker 1: Brownie brought it up to James Cook average five point

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Speaker 1: seven to carry this year. The problem is he only

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Speaker 1: had eighty nine carries. He may be the lead dog

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Speaker 1: next year the way it looks right now, so that

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Speaker 1: may change. I'm I am not in the camp fully

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Speaker 1: of people to say our run game needs to be better.

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Speaker 1: I think most people would say instead of better, they'd

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Speaker 1: probably say it needs to be different. They run for

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Speaker 1: enough yards the way it is now, But you just

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Speaker 1: wish Josh's yards were given to James Cook and Devin

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Speaker 1: Singletary instead of Josh. Right, I mean, then you'd have

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Speaker 1: two guys that rush for almost, if not a thousand yards,

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Speaker 1: and then you'd be it'd be better. The problem is

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Speaker 1: that you know it's always gonna be Josh. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: be a factor in that. That's why Josh is Josh.

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Speaker 1: And you're not gonna take that out of your game

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00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: plan completely. Certainly, you're going to use it in situations

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Speaker 1: and situations alone where it works, like in the you know,

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Speaker 1: where he scrambles for yardage or what does that power

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Speaker 1: sweep or whatever you want to call it in short

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Speaker 1: yardage and goal line. But I'm I'm not a fan

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Speaker 1: of revamping the run game. We're making it more prominent,

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Speaker 1: but I'm I could get on board with maybe having

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Speaker 1: it look a little different and having other guys carry

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Speaker 1: the ball instead of Josh. If they can do it

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Speaker 1: and gain yards. I'm not going to hand it off

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Speaker 1: on I mean, they do it a lot, hand it

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Speaker 1: off on second and ten for two yards. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to sign up for that. But if

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Speaker 1: you can, if they can get it done, sure, sure.

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Speaker 1: But they don't have to change too much about this

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Speaker 1: offense in the running game because it's still like we

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Speaker 1: were talking. We've talked about it's the number one in

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Speaker 1: this division in foot in the AFC East, the Bills

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Speaker 1: running games, the best one in the division. Now. You

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Speaker 1: can say you don't like the way it looks because

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Speaker 1: of Josh, but the simple fact of the matter is

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Speaker 1: they have to the other everybody else has to defend it,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a really good run game. If you

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Speaker 1: want it to look different, I can get on board

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Speaker 1: with that, but I'm not going to sacrifice anything to

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Speaker 1: get that done. I want to keep it as good

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Speaker 1: as it is now. Yeah, and you know, defensive line,

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Speaker 1: I understand why you thought it was a little leaky,

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Speaker 1: especially after the last game of the season, but that

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Speaker 1: was without de Kwon Jones, who was their best interior

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Speaker 1: defender in my estimation all season long. He didn't play

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Speaker 1: in the last game due to a calf injury. Jordan

627
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: Phillips was playing with one arm with a rotator cuff

628
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Speaker 1: injury and a shoulder that's going to need surge or

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Speaker 1: Those are the two best defensives they've got. Those are

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Speaker 1: your two best run stuffers, and one is still under contract. Jones.

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Speaker 1: Phillips is a free agent. But I think they could

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Speaker 1: get him back on an affordable deal for a one

633
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Speaker 1: year contract, and I think he would want to come

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00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: back quite frankly, especially how this past season ended for him.

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Speaker 1: So you get those two guys back, that's a good start.

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to make a decision on

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Speaker 1: Ed Oliver. He is under contract, but at ten point

638
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: seven million in knowing the cost constraints of the team

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00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: right now, what do you do with him? Do you

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Speaker 1: extend him? Do you trade him? What are the thoughts there.

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00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: I think they're going to have to really take a long,

642
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: hard look at the cost benefit analysis of Ed Oliver

643
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: the player and decide what they want to do long term,

644
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: because either way, I think you have to get some

645
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: cap relief from his salary figure. Whether you extend him

646
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: and reduce his cap figure this year to help yourself

647
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: now you know, and sign him to an extension, or

648
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Speaker 1: you trade him to get him off your books and

649
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: get some draft capital and return to acquire more cheap labor.

650
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: Those are decisions that they're going to have to weigh out,

651
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Speaker 1: not just without Oliver, probably with some other players on

652
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: the roster too going forward. So it's gonna be interesting

653
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: to see what they do. I understand the pass rush

654
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: wasn't up to snuff, and it changed dramatically once von

655
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: Miller was injured on Thanksgiving. They went from averaging two

656
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: point seven sacks a game with von Miller to averaging

657
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: two sacks a game without him. That's almost a sack

658
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: less per game. Not to mention, you know, we probably

659
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: I haven't diced up quarterback hits and how many of

660
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: those dropped off affecting the quarterback, etc. But it was

661
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: a problem. Now. Von Miller will be back next year,

662
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: hopefully right from the start of the season. But the again,

663
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Speaker 1: with the cap constraints that this team is going to

664
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Speaker 1: be under, I think they have to leave the defensive

665
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: side of the ball alone and hope for the best

666
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: and really invest on the offensive side because they've lost

667
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Speaker 1: ground to the talent that some of these other teams

668
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Speaker 1: are putting out there on the field, namely the Bengals

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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs. Primarily. Let's get back to the phones

670
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Speaker 1: and we go to Josh and Arcade next. What do

671
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: you got for us? Josh, You're on one Bill's lives.

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00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. I'm on board with a

673
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of other people are saying, I

674
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: think the offensive line is probably the the top priority. UM,

675
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: and looking I head to the draft, there's two guys

676
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Speaker 1: that are on the top of my list in UH

677
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: osires Torrance and UH Rodrick h So I can't remember

678
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Speaker 1: his name. I think it is Jones out of Georgia.

679
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: What's his name? I think it's Rodrick Jones, Roderick Jones. Sorry, um,

680
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: but um, yeah, Torrance is towed as a top interior

681
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: offensive line lineman and m Rodrick now playing in the

682
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: SEC being a good run blocker, of being a good

683
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: pass protector. That's essentially kind of fits the bill of

684
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: what we need. And Brodrick Jones is UH versatile even

685
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: though he's listed as a tackle, can move into UH

686
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Speaker 1: into guard. And for my second position, I would say

687
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm torn between receiver and safety because I agree that

688
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: we need more weapons for Josh um just what we

689
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: have probably he doesn't UH live up to the expectation

690
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: and safety no, I'm assuming Jordan Poyer may not coming

691
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Speaker 1: back or you may not, Um, you may not be

692
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Speaker 1: able to bring him back. And I know Christian Benford

693
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: has been rumored to move the safety but I think

694
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Speaker 1: there might be might be a little need for a

695
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Speaker 1: safety valves, so to speak, if if they need it.

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Speaker 1: So thanks a lot of guys. I enjoy your show.

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Speaker 1: Take my call. Yeah, thanks, Josh, good call. Yeah. It's

698
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: all that stuff in there. And you can pick those

699
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Speaker 1: offensive linemen off Georgia and you know, and like Broderick

700
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: Jones and who I'm pretty sure you and I were

701
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: talking about it, and he like nine feet tall, and

702
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: who were talking about? Is Broderick Jones no left tackle?

703
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: What is he? No, you're thinking of the Ohio State

704
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: kid who's six eight, three seventy five. Not that Roderick

705
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: Jones is a shrimp, but um, Roderick's played left tackle

706
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: for Georgia. Good player, sure, But here's the thing that

707
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't know the really really great ones, like the

708
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: plug and play kids that come out I say kids,

709
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: the guys that come out of college that you can

710
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: plug into a spot like left tackle in the National

711
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: Football League and forget about him for fifteen years. You

712
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: gotta be you can't pick twenty seventh in the first

713
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Speaker 1: round and do that right. Roderick Jones, though, is projected

714
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Speaker 1: to be a bottom half of the first round player,

715
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: so there's a chance that he could be in the

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00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: vicinity of the Bills. And remember, we've got a lot

717
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: of quarterback needy teams up at the top of the draft,

718
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: so anytime somebody's taken a quarterback, that's pushing all the

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00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: other position groups down to the bills and you got

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Speaker 1: to rely on that. Twenty seven is a low place

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00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: to be. But there's not that many wide receivers this

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00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: year either that are considered top flights. That's the tight

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00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: ends that moves everybody up up the scale. So yeah,

724
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Speaker 1: if he's there, if one of these guys are there

725
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: at twenty seven, absolutely I'm all about it. It is

726
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: great because if you get a guy an offensive lineman

727
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: that high, I would think that that is the one

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00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: spot where a player in this culture, and we talk

729
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: about it all the time, how these rookies they don't

730
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: get plugged in in the in Buffalo. They got to

731
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: earn every rep and then earn their spot and then

732
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: keep their spot. And then if they want to move

733
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: up from a guard to a tie or whatever, they

734
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: got to earn that too, and somebody else has got

735
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: to unearn it. But as an offensive lineman, they get

736
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: on the field faster because there's five spots they can

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00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: move to and young offensive lineman and this team seem

738
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: to get on the field long faster than young wide receivers,

739
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: young running backs, all of that stuff, get on in

740
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: corners and all that stuff that they get on the

741
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: field faster. Yes. Actually a kid picked at twenty seven

742
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: as an offensive lineman, I could see that guy getting

743
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: plugged in pretty quick. Yeah. And Roderick Jones from Georgia.

744
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: He's played some right tackle and then left tackle this

745
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: past year, so there is some versatility there as well.

746
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: And he's not alone. There's a lot of other linemen

747
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: in this draft that hopefully the Bills will have an

748
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: opportunity to pick from. We take a break here, but

749
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Speaker 1: more of your phone calls when we return, So if

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00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: you're holding at eight oh three oh five fifty, we'll

751
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: get to you when we come back here. On One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Kali to Health, it's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

753
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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One of Bills five. Chris

754
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: Brown Steve Tasker asking you to give us your top

755
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: two priorities for the Bill's roster this offseason. We go

756
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: back to the phones and to Cynthia in Amhurst. What

757
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: do you got for Cynthia. Yes, I wanted to find

758
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: out is there still such a position as a fullback?

759
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: And I just recently looked at the Frank O'Haras story.

760
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: I mean, are there any kids like him coming out

761
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: of college? I think that would be a big help,

762
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: and it would help Josh fourth and one. Give it

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00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: to somebody, you know, a big fullback, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: In fact, one of the most intriguing guys in the

765
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: National Football League to me is the and I'm gonna

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00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: blank on his name is the fullback for the Baltimore Ravens.

767
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: He's a three hundred and five pound defensive lineman who

768
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: plays fullback for them, Alan Riccard. He used to play

769
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: defensive line. They transferred him and moved him from that

770
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: side of the ball over the offensive side of the

771
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: ball and he plays fullback. Okay, okay, I kind of

772
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: get where you're coming from. Yeah, And with the cap

773
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: issue coming out of college, you might be able to

774
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: find somebody like that without robbing the bank. You're right

775
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: sent In In fact, a guy like that, you I mean,

776
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: you don't even have to draft him. They're you can

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00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: find him standing at a bus stop. Basically also have

778
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: Reggie Gilliam on the roster already, right, But I'm talking yeah,

779
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: and I get what you're saying there too. Reggie Gilliam

780
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: has his own skill set, and the Bills use him

781
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: as a fullback. He's listed as a fullback. I'm with you.

782
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm into hyperbole, and I want a fullback that looks

783
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: like a monster. I want like a six six, three

784
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pound guy who can run who they

785
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: can't stop. If you've got to use a roster spot

786
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: for somebody like that, get somebody who is an enormous problem.

787
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating to make a point. The guy's got to

788
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: be an athlete and he's got to do all this

789
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: other stuff. But there are guys like that out there.

790
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: Teams shy away from it because it's a little bit

791
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: of a specialized spot. It takes a spot away from

792
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: a wide receiver or a tight end or you know,

793
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: number one running back. I think there's room for guys

794
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: like that on a roster, and I would look for

795
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: him and find somebody like that. Guy Ricard is a player,

796
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: and I think even now he's underused over there. Derrick

797
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: Henry is Derrick Henry because he can run really fast.

798
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: But you could find somebody as tall as and maybe

799
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Speaker 1: heavier than Derrick Henry who can do some things better

800
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: than Derrick Henry. Maybe catch the football, maybe run routes.

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00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, I know that. Sorry, it's Patrick Ricard.

802
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: Alan Ricard was also a fullback in the league. He

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00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: doesn't play anymore. But the point is, yes, you can

804
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: find specialized athletes. I remember, and I'll give you an example.

805
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: Back in the day, the University of Kansas basketball team

806
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: had a guy and the Kansas City Chiefs went over

807
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: and they wanted to try him out because he was

808
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: seven feet tall and a really good athlete, and they

809
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: wanted to use him in the red zone as a

810
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: tight end. Just put him in the back of the

811
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: end zone, throw the football above the crossbar and he'd

812
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: jump up and catch it. The problem was the guy

813
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: who was seven feet tall, his name was Wilt Chamberlain,

814
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: and he ended up having a really good career in

815
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: another sport. So, but specialized athletes like the one you're

816
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: talking about it, you know, fullback is one of those

817
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: spots where you could maybe find a guy like that,

818
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: but you'd have to search long, long, and hard to

819
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: find a guy like that who's good enough to be

820
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: an NFL player and who's versatile enough and an athlete

821
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Speaker 1: to offer you things on special teams, you know, so

822
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: you could play other spots. But I'm with you, and

823
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people have said on our twitter twitter sheet,

824
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: tweet sheet and all that about find a big, big

825
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: power back, so Josh doesn't have to be the short

826
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Speaker 1: yardage back. I'll listen to it if you can find

827
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Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah, but I almost wonder if it's too

828
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Speaker 1: specialized to justify a rosters. It is, and that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Two or three times a game, Reggie Gilliam offers you

830
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: far more than that, and he can play on special teams.

831
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: So Gilliam is your guy for the foreseeable future. He

832
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: just signed a contract extension last year. And you can say, well,

833
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: why doesn't Reggie Gilliam get those cars, get some aries.

834
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: And one of the problems is you become predictable when

835
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: you have a specialized athlete like that. You tip off

836
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: fus on the field. Its exactly fullbacks on the field,

837
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: or everybody's off and the fullback is on. You have

838
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: to be able to do a lot of different things. Otherwise,

839
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Speaker 1: if he can only do a dive play, take the

840
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: hand off and go straight up into the line, that's

841
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: all he's ever going to be able to do. You

842
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: become predictable, and when you're predictable, you can't win. And

843
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: so he's also got to be able to pass protect.

844
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: So if they play fake it to him whatever, or

845
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: catch the ball so they can screen pass it to

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00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 1: him when he comes up to pass protect and they think, Okay,

847
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw it this time, and he sneaks out

848
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: for an outlet. He's got to be able to do

849
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: a lot of things other than just what we're talking about.

850
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: And when you start talking like that, then you realize

851
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: how difficult those guys are to find. Let's squeeze in

852
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: Bob in South Carolina. Here, Bob, what do you have

853
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: for us here on one Bill's life? Right, guys, thanks

854
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: for taking the call. I don't mean to be a

855
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: brooken record but offensive line for sure. I love the

856
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: heck out of Dan Dawkins, but he did not have

857
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: a great year this year. Roger Sefold did not have

858
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: a great year this year. So I'd think they've got

859
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: to find somebody to put some competition in that offensive line. Secondly,

860
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: I would go safety, mainly because Mike is not getting

861
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: any younger player may be gone. Who knows if benfor

862
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 1: is going to be any good there and who knows

863
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: that DeMar is ever coming back? Right? The other thing,

864
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: The other thing I'd like to add is a running

865
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: back in the free agency, like Tony Pollard, like a

866
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: Jones from the Packers, who can create a second in two,

867
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: so they take some of that pressure off of Josh.

868
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can afford that, you know,

869
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: in terms of those players in free agency, but we've

870
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: got to find ways to put ourselves in a better

871
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: second down situation consistently, where teams are gonna are going

872
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: to really respect the fact that we've got a strong

873
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: running back who can gain those yards consistently and a

874
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: Pollard Dallas people have been crying for years for that

875
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: guy to get on the field. Boar. I know we

876
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: got hurt here at the end of the year, but

877
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: he'll be five by the time training camp comes around,

878
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: and Jones is a stud in Green Bay. So yeah,

879
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: I'll say this, Bob, You're right. You might have answered

880
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: your same question twice. I mean, if you upgrade the

881
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: offensive line across the board or whatever. You may fix

882
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: the second and two before you ever get to a

883
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: running back in free agents. I think James could can

884
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: be Tony Pollard in a couple of years. I really do.

885
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: I think he's that talented and polar is going to

886
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: be too much money on the open marketing. He's going

887
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: to be getting double digit millions per year even though

888
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: he is a running back. He's only twenty five. He's

889
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: going to get giant money on the free agent market

890
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: because he's one of the two best running backs in

891
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: free agency and the only guy ahead of him is

892
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: sae Quon Barkley in my estimation, so I could be

893
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: able to afford him. Unfortunately, but running backs aren't hard

894
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: to find, and the Bills are gonna need a third back.

895
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 1: They can get him an undrafted free undrafted rookie free

896
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: agent could be your third running back. They just had

897
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: a guy here last year, Raheem Blackshear, who people were

898
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: campaigning to make the roster. Last year. He goes down

899
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: to Carolina, who picks him up on their fifty three

900
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,479
Speaker 1: man roster and he's productive down there. You can find

901
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: a guy like that to round out your running back Corps.

902
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: As far as safety, your point is well taken because

903
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: you laid it out perfectly. Jordan Poyer is probably not

904
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: back because he would cost too much money and he's

905
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: thirty two years old. Mica Hid in the last year

906
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: of his contract. DeMar Hamlin's future completely up in the air,

907
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: and as Christian Benford gonna make it at safety or not,

908
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: we don't know. It's a big if. You probably do

909
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: have to get another guy in the pipeline. We got

910
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: to take a break here because when we come back

911
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: from spottrack dot com, your salary cap guru Mike Janitty

912
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: joining us next here on one Bills Live presented by

913
00:51:51,600 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio les one Bill's

914
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: Live presented by called light a Health. All Right, our

915
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

916
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: and please to be joined now by founder and managing

917
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: editor of spottrack dot com. It is one Mike Janetti

918
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: joining us on the line here. Mike, good to have you.

919
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: It's offseason time, time for the NFL clubs to balance

920
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: the books, and the bill have some work to do

921
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: in order to do that. We got some hints about

922
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: that from Brandon being himself and his season wrap up

923
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: press conference, but maybe first map out how tall a

924
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: task might this be in light of the contracts they

925
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: have on the books and now the holes they have

926
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: on the roster with twenty two unrestricted free agents. Yeah, right,

927
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: there's a there's a lot of elements of fact you're

928
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: in here. Look at the any team and contention is

929
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: going to have financial issues starting off the offseason. It's

930
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: just sort of the way this works right now. So

931
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, to be you know, minus twenty or close

932
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: around to that point with a two hundred and twenty

933
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: four league salary cap right now, it's not the most

934
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: daunting task we've seen. We've seen teams in the hundreds

935
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: at this stage of the game. So like a couple

936
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: of sizable restructures, especially to your quarterback, and you're right

937
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: back at cap neutral here. Um, so I'm not overly

938
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: concerned with where the bills up stand right now. But

939
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: you said it at the end there, there's there's a

940
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: lot of miles the feed hitting the open market on

941
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: March fifteenth that you know, three or four are going

942
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: to gain sizeable contracts somewhere, whether it's Buffalo or somewhere else.

943
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: So it's less about getting yourselves healthy right now and

944
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: more about how do you retain and or you know,

945
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: replace some of these miles that have to hit the

946
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: open market and see if you can help us. Remember

947
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: we've been having this conversation. How far off are the

948
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: bills from where they were exactly in this spot a

949
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: year ago. It doesn't seem like it was that far

950
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: much different than last year. Yeah, you got it right.

951
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: They were really aggressive two off seasons ago and extending

952
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: four or five of their own players, and generally the

953
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: second year of those extensions is where the cap bubbles up.

954
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: So they took four or five restructures last offseason. I

955
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: know that's that's not something Brandon being loves to do

956
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, and that's just good business, to

957
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: be honest. He's gonna have to do it again with

958
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: a couple more this year, and it's not going to

959
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: be you know, half the roster getting restructured like we

960
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: see the Saints and Rams and Eagles do one an

961
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: annual basis. But you got to take your medicine just

962
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: to stay in contention here. And he'll do what he

963
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: has to to get them ready here so on your

964
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: spottrack dot com site, I use the cap management tool

965
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: for the bills, and I was pretty liberal in my restructuring.

966
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: To your point, I restructure Josh Digs, Tarn Johnson, Tredavious White,

967
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: Matt Milano, Ryan Bates, and Saran Neil. I got super aggressive.

968
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: That saved forty million and put Buffalo almost nineteen million under.

969
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: But that's probably not enough cap space for all that

970
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: they need to do this offseason. How extensive are they

971
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna have to be? Or is it gonna have to

972
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: be a combination of maybe three or four restructures and

973
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: then some outright roster cuts. Yeah, I'd go with the

974
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: ladder right now, Chris. There's definitely a big old roster

975
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: bonus for von Miller that's gonna get restructured as well,

976
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: which saves over ten million this year. So just Josh

977
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: and Von Miller alone opens up almost thirty on by themselves. Okay,

978
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: and some of the names you mentioned will factor in

979
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: there as well. But there's gonna be some pain every

980
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: team goes through it. I think there's a couple of

981
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: starters that might fall off this roster. You know. I

982
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: hate to say it, but I think Mitch Morris is

983
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: in this conversation, with his injury history, his cap situation,

984
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: he can save over six million if if he falls

985
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: off the roster, like a player like Tim Suttle is

986
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: in this conversation right now, just because of the savings

987
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: he can offer in a surplus situation. But you know,

988
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: nothing I think too crazy right now. I don't think

989
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna go two buck wild with roster bubbles on

990
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: this roster just because for seventy five percent of the

991
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: season this was the best roster in football. And where

992
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: do you think that? Where does it start? And how

993
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: what's the timetable for these deals start to get done?

994
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean free agency still it's a little bit on

995
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: the horizon, you know. But when do these start and

996
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: how soon? You know, what's the time frame? Well, they

997
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: can start immediately obviously the Bills are in full off

998
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 1: season mode right now. The actual free agency doesn't start

999
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: until March fifteenth. The franchise tag window opens February twenty. First,

1000
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: there's there's at least a conversation to be had there

1001
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: with maybe a transition tag for Tremond Edmonds. So there's

1002
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: something to talk about in that regard. But the teams

1003
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: are going to start restruction players at will really, you

1004
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: know right now going forward, it's that time of year

1005
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: for a lot of the teams in the offseason. You

1006
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: mentioned Edmunds Mike, and he plays a position that is

1007
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: not seen by too many organizations as a quote unquote

1008
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: premium position like pass rush, your quarterback, wide receiver, left tackle, corner.

1009
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: You have his market value at eleven million, if I'm

1010
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: not mistaken on your site. Why do you believe his

1011
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: market value is half of what Roquan Smith got from

1012
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: Baltimore at twenty million per year, or even other linebackers

1013
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: like Shack Leonard and Indie or Fred Warner and San

1014
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: Fran who are making nineteen seven and nineteen a year. Well,

1015
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: there's two conversations, Chris. Number one. That eleven million is

1016
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: the mathematical value, right, that's just what our algorithm says. Okay,

1017
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: the Mike Genetti value for Tremad Edmonds is probably closer

1018
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: to sixteen seventeen million, just because there are half a

1019
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: dozen players now that live up there. And quite frankly,

1020
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: he's gotten better every year with culminating in his best

1021
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: season in twenty twenty two. Um, So we do a

1022
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: three year mathematical valuation of these players, and for a

1023
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: year and a half there he really struggled in a

1024
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: lot of the areas that we cover from from an

1025
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: algorithm standpoint, I don't think he's the top of the

1026
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: market player. I think he's he's projecting in that direction,

1027
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. But for this roster, can

1028
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: Brandon Being go north of fifteen million per year on

1029
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: this player? Probably not. It's as you mentioned, it's a

1030
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: it's a non dominant financial position right now across the league,

1031
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: even though there are six players in the sixteen million

1032
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: plus range. I think Buffalo probably has bigger fish to fry.

1033
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: But he is absolutely of value and they're gonna at

1034
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: least attempt the multi year extension. A question about it.

1035
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: What about the rest of the roster with Tremaine Edmonds

1036
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: and you know, Jordan Poyer seems at at his point,

1037
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: at this point of his career, it seems a foregone

1038
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: conclusion that he may not be back what other players

1039
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: like an Ed Oliver going into the last year of

1040
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: his career, making you know, contract, the last year of

1041
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: his contract. Give us your your thoughts about those two players,

1042
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: Poyer and ed Sure I'll start with Poyer. Obviously, the

1043
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: value there is insurmountable, whether whether he missed time or

1044
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: was on the field, you could just you could just

1045
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: smell it in the air. He's probably an eleven twelve

1046
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: million dollar player right now, even at his age. I

1047
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: think there's a team out there, maybe three, that would

1048
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: value him at that kind of price. The safety market's

1049
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: almost twenty million itself right now, so that's a booming

1050
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: market on its head. Buffalo is probably not going that route.

1051
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: I think we're in a situation we're both player right

1052
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: now and hide next year fall off this roster, So

1053
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: it's it's probably the biggest priority for this Bill's team

1054
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: right now this offseason, both through free agency and through

1055
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: the draft. And it's a growing market, so player itself

1056
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: probably falls off if he gets over ten million a

1057
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: year or somewhere else. And then at Oliver, that's a

1058
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: sticky situation. That's a player that they wanted to see

1059
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: a lot more from last year. He was probably going

1060
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: to be their top extension candidate right now this offseason,

1061
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: and I just don't see it that way. The fifth

1062
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: year option is about ten and a half million right now.

1063
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: He probably plays that out remember back here next year

1064
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: talking about an extension for him. Speaking of Ed, you know,

1065
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: at ten point seven, do you think he's a viable

1066
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: trade commodity commodity at all playing on a last year,

1067
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: fifty year option. You know, we don't see it too much, Chris.

1068
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: We don't see a lot of teams move off on

1069
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: this fifth year. What we have started to see is

1070
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: teams restructure that fifth year option and turned into a

1071
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: five year contract, essentially with four void years. It's possible

1072
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Being goes that route and then he can simply

1073
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: just use those void years into into the multi year

1074
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: extension at some point. I don't like I said, it's

1075
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: a sticky situation right now, because he's a player you

1076
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: want to have for three four more years. I just

1077
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: don't know that he's put the production up there. So

1078
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: trade candidate, maybe restructure candidate maybe more likely, But maybe

1079
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: the most likely scenario is that he just plays out

1080
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: that ten seven and we see where we are, and

1081
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: as we get to know the start a free agency

1082
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: and the transition, is there any players that are going

1083
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: to be transition or what can maybe players around the

1084
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: league are primary targets for transition or franchise tags. Yeah,

1085
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: the Bengals are the place to start. I think that

1086
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates situation is interesting. That's a safety that has

1087
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: has has shown a ton of value for that roster

1088
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: over the past couple of seasons. He played on the

1089
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: franchise tag last year. Obviously, the you know, the bread

1090
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: winner with this tag situation as Lamar Jackson, Who's going

1091
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: to get the exclusive franchise tag in Baltimore which right

1092
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: now costs over forty five million dollars. You know, Dallas's

1093
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: situation is unique. They've got Tony Pollard and Dalton Schultz,

1094
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: both weapons. I think they'd like to keep. Pollard probably

1095
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: gets that tag right now with his injury situation. I

1096
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: think the one year tender makes a lot of sense,

1097
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: and Josh Jacobs probably gets the same kind of treatment

1098
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas for the ten million dollars running back

1099
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: for one year. And then the Giants probably are the

1100
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: second most interesting tag situation because of quarterback and running back.

1101
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: Right Daniel Jones at about thirty two million could get

1102
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: tagged or Saquond with that ten million dollar running back

1103
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: franchise tag, So I think they want to keep both

1104
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: those players. One of them likely gets a tag to

1105
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: start this offseason. Yeah, wide receiver two figures to be

1106
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: a priority this offseason for the Bills. They're in win

1107
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: now mode, as you know. But knowing how much receiver

1108
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: salaries are on the open market, is that a scenario

1109
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: where they try to get a proven commodity via trade

1110
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: or are they just going to rely on the draft?

1111
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: I would be inclined to say draft and trade. I'm

1112
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: with you, let's do it all. You know, the stuff

1113
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: on Digg situation was so successful and it's and to

1114
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: be frank and I haven't done my homework, you know,

1115
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: super well yet on this draft stuff. But it doesn't

1116
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: sound like it's the greatest wide receiver draft. But you

1117
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: know what that sounds like to me. It sounds like

1118
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of first rounders, so there may

1119
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: be a really good, healthy set of second and third

1120
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: round picks wide receiver rise that you could snag that

1121
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: could slide into that number two, number three position for

1122
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: us immediately. I do think there's gonna be some names

1123
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: out there via trade. And the big one that I'm

1124
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: starting to hear more and more and especially now with

1125
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: today's news, is Mike Evans and Mike Evans is not

1126
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: a wide receiver two, but he's a wide receiver one

1127
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: A and he's not an expiring contract. And Tampa Bay

1128
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: needs to shed cap left and right. They are in

1129
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: the second situation from cap standpoint. Right now, that's a name,

1130
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: that's a name I think could get rejuvenated on this

1131
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: trade market. Certainly Brandon Cooks is going to be back

1132
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 1: on this trade market. And there's a couple other names.

1133
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: Maybe Robert Woods, our old friend in Tennessee, has a

1134
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: chance to fall off that roster. But you know it

1135
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: won't be a frivolous wide receiver market from free agency

1136
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: or the trade standpoint. But I think any channel possible

1137
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: right now has to make sense. Yeah, I mean I

1138
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: was the only reason I was thinking trade is because

1139
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: you can control the cost a little bit better via

1140
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: trade than you can in free agency, where you're almost

1141
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: certainly going to overpay. You have to give up something

1142
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: to get that cost control. But with where the bills are,

1143
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: I would tend to think that's gonna be something that

1144
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: Bean's gonna have to explore. And that's why I think

1145
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: they were rumored to be in on a player like

1146
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. Christian McCaffrey has a trade trade asset. Is

1147
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: a twelve million dollar running back, not a sixteen million

1148
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: dollar running back, right, because the Carolina Panthers paid out

1149
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: the majority of his contract upfront. So that's that's the

1150
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: benefit you get when you get a player in the

1151
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: second or third year of their contract, is is most

1152
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: of the chunk cash has already been paid out. Yeah,

1153
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: so you're talking about a guy like say, like a

1154
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: Mike Kevans from Tampa Bay. He's got a thirteen million

1155
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: dollar cap hit and what's what about the restructure bonus

1156
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: which was you know nine point one? How does all

1157
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: that work? And what would his cap hit be to

1158
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: the Bills if the Bills traded at you know, a

1159
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: two for him or whatever? Yeah, what's that look like?

1160
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: Cap y? Yeah, so only the thirteen plus the roster

1161
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: bonus one year fourteen point five million comes to Buffalo

1162
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: or comes to the traded team. The rest would stay

1163
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay. And and then you take that fourteen

1164
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: and a half million either turn into a brand new

1165
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: contract or your restructure for this year and make it

1166
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: a friendly one year deal with some void years. So

1167
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: it's a it's a pretty friendly situation for a player

1168
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: that I think just wants to reset his market, and

1169
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: I think a chain of scenes change the scenery might

1170
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: really benefit him as well. I know in your analysis

1171
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: of the bills on spottrack dot com you were targeting

1172
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: Tyler Bass for a contract extension. How much cap space

1173
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: do you think that could help create if you did

1174
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: that minimal it might be a situation where you stay

1175
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: cap neutral on that you just want to lock him

1176
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: in for three or four more years. We're seeing we're

1177
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: seeing some pretty aggressive kicker contracts lately when you've got

1178
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: a good one. Teams are really locking in players four

1179
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: or five years at almost you know the thresholds, and

1180
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: now six million for Justin Tucker. So you know you're

1181
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: gonna live in the four and a half five million

1182
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: dollar range for an above average kicker in this league

1183
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: right now. But it's an inspiring contract. You got a

1184
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: little boost with this proven performance bonus, so you could

1185
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: stand a shed maybe half a million dollars right now

1186
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: in cap space. But I just think it's about keeping

1187
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: that player a long term here. Yeah. Yeah. Is there

1188
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: are there any trends to contracts that are new? That's

1189
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: a great question. I think we're gonna start seeing more

1190
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 1: and more Team Steve really start to use this cap

1191
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: bubble to their advantage. This was an MBA thing a

1192
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 1: couple of years back, where where the cap boost and

1193
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: the teams that were ready for it, and the teams

1194
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: that were that actually took advantage of it from a

1195
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: timing perspective, said all right, let's not just buy players

1196
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: right now because of what because of this cap situation.

1197
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: Let's frontload them and let's bring them in, and let's

1198
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: make sure that the majority of the cash is pushed

1199
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: into the first two three seasons of these big deals,

1200
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: because a the player is going to be happy, the

1201
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: agent's gonna be really happy, and then in year three

1202
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: and year four, we can have some real value with this.

1203
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: And for a team like Buffalo who's looking to keep

1204
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: this window open as long as possible with Josh Allen,

1205
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: like four more seasons of guaranteed money on Josh Allen's contract,

1206
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's less about going year to year.

1207
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: If you've got a player that you know can be

1208
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: here for three to four years, let's bring him in

1209
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: on a multi year contract. And instead of having all

1210
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: this fluff built into the contracts, that. You know, the

1211
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: eighties and the nineties had let's be really aggressive with

1212
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: frontloaded deals. The forty nine Ers did this to their

1213
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: advantage a couple of years back. The Pittsburgh Steelers have

1214
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: always done this to their advantage. I'd love to see

1215
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: a team like Buffalo start to do that and really

1216
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: start to pump more money into the first couple of

1217
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: seasons and then if they have to do some restructures

1218
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: obviously Brandon bemiduce, is that what they did with von

1219
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: Miller's contracts like a six year deal, but after three

1220
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: years it changes drastically. Yeah, And in that case, right,

1221
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: it's about you know, at one point in time, does

1222
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: he just fall off the cliff? And that's just the

1223
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: effective life at his age, So you had to kind

1224
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: of rush that in. But to be honest, right, they're

1225
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: competing with six other teams, four of which were probably

1226
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: top contenders like Buffalo, So structure can actually win you

1227
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: out a contract in certain cases. And I think with

1228
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: this cap jump, not that the Bills are sitting here

1229
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: with sixty million to work with, but you know, the

1230
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: one or two players that they address this offseason, you know,

1231
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: safety weapon, whatever we talk about here, that's an advantage

1232
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: some of these teams can make to say, look at

1233
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna push a first year roster bonus where other

1234
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: teams are going to save us to spread out a

1235
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: signing bonus and then live with them from here out. Okay,

1236
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: so you have a team like Cincinnati, you know, looking

1237
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: at the AFC top tier of teams, Cincinnati's got about

1238
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: forty four million in cap space. How much is Joe

1239
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: Burrow going to go bull up of that? I mean,

1240
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: you can structure in any way you want, I suppose, Mike,

1241
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: but realistically, how much of that does Joe Burrow gobble up?

1242
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: And how free wheeling will they be able to be

1243
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: if we're trying to account for the borough extension. Yeah,

1244
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: this is new territory for sinc. Not that they haven't

1245
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: handed out big contracts before. Right. They took care of

1246
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: Dalton and made him one of the higher average paid

1247
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in football back on the day, and they've done

1248
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: that with a couple of defensive players. But that's a

1249
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: team that loves to go year by year with their guarantees.

1250
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: It's called rolling guarantees. That's just there. That's how they

1251
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: operate and do business well. That's that's obviously not going

1252
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: to fly with Joe Burrow situation. He's gonna have to have,

1253
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: you know, upwards of two hundred million dollars in practical

1254
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: guarantees and that's going to have to all be paid

1255
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: out over the next four seasons. So you know, you

1256
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: want to call it a fifty million per year contract,

1257
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: you want to talk about two undred million guarantee. Those

1258
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: are all the talking points with the Joe Burrows, the

1259
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, the Justin Herbert's Lamar Jacksons of the world

1260
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: right now, and Cincinnati is in one of those situations. Yes,

1261
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: they have to pay Tee Higgins and Jamar Chase over

1262
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: the next couple of off seasons, but they do have

1263
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: a lot of real good value on the offensive line.

1264
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: On that defensive line, I think a lot of their

1265
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: contracts are about fair market value. You know, there's not

1266
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: a lot of overpay there. So you can probably take

1267
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: advantage of that with Joe Burrows contract and push some

1268
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: of this cash into the next couple of years and

1269
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: then structure it more like a baseball contract and say, look,

1270
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep you kind of around the twenty five

1271
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: million dollar mark here for a couple of seasons and

1272
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: then we'll go into the forties and maybe even into

1273
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: the fifties down the road. Something Patrick Mahomes did with

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01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: Kansas City, and we've seen how successful that's been. All Right,

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01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: So the grat cap got set this way. You're just

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01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: yesterday at twenty four point eight million. It's up from

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01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: two hundred and eight two million point two million, And

1278
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 1: of course in twenty one is the first year in

1279
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: history where the cap went down from one ninety eight

1280
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: point two to one eighty two point five because of

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01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 1: the pandemic. Where's it going to go next? Yeah, I

1282
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: think we're on a pretty good path here. The TV

1283
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: money hasn't really even really kicked in yet. We've seen

1284
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: all these ratings, announcements of just how good the playoffs been,

1285
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, all the merchandise and everything's way up. So

1286
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 1: the league is as healthy as it's ever been. The

1287
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: only reason it's not going to go up thirty million

1288
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: over the next couple of seasons in any one season

1289
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: is because they still got to pay back some of

1290
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: that COVID stuff. Right. There's there's payments to the NFLPA,

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01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: there's some loans that we're taking out just for safety

1292
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: precautions that have to get paid back, and then that'll

1293
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: drop some of the overall revenue profits. But I expect

1294
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: an eight percent jump again next year. Guys. I think

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01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna push close to two forty next year, and

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01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 1: then after twenty twenty four when things should be back

1297
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 1: to neutro from those loan payments. Who knows. If the

1298
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: ratings and the revenue stays like this, you know we're

1299
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: going to be approaching the two sixties and the two

1300
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: seventies before we know it. I got to come back

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01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: Mike to Burrow for one more second here, because you

1302
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: were talking like twenty five million a year to try

1303
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: to cost control him, kind of like the Chiefs did

1304
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: with Mahomes. How realistic do you think that is? When

1305
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: you have a guy like Kyler Murray who hasn't won

1306
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,759
Speaker 1: a playoff game, is getting forty six point one average

1307
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 1: an will value is I can't see Burrows people stomaching that.

1308
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: That makes the agent look bad, and that's just as

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01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: important as making the quarterback happy. I mean, I guess

1310
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: you know the guy works for Burrow ultimately, and maybe

1311
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 1: he is a team guy and does that. But man,

1312
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: I got a hard time seeing that flying when a

1313
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: guy who hasn't won a playoff game in Arizona is

1314
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 1: making forty six a year. Yeah, there are certain contracts

1315
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: and all these sports that we follow that are called

1316
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: poison contracts, right and certainly the Deshaun Watson one right

1317
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: now is a poison contract for a lot of these

1318
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: players looking out there for what they want next. And

1319
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: that Kyler contract is maybe even worse because there's not

1320
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: really a track record with him from a production standpoint

1321
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: to back up what he got. It's not even the

1322
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: forty eight million a year guys, it's it's that's a

1323
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: five year guarantee. I mean, he's gonna get one hundred

1324
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: and ninety million out of that contract from somebody at

1325
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,759
Speaker 1: some point in time. It's it's an extremely stable contract

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01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray. And I'm not saying Joe Burrow's not

1327
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: going to get there, and with this contract he will.

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 1: It'll have all the structure in the stability that he wants.

1329
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: He's going to get the two hundred million plus guaranteed

1330
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: to surpass a player like Kyle Murray. All I'm saying

1331
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: is the structure of the cash flow I think can

1332
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: really help the ownership out here because it's not really

1333
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: about the cap in this regard, right, they can they

1334
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: can restructure Joe Burrow every year for the next six

1335
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: years if they have to to make sure the roster

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01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: stays intact, and some owners will do that or some

1337
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: gms will do that. But cash fill is a big

1338
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: part of this. So the second that Joe Burrow signs,

1339
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: whatever's fully guaranteed, it's signing has to go in escrow.

1340
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: I mean that old adage still exists. So you know,

1341
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: the ownership in Cincinnati, we're are gonna have to be

1342
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: willing to throw hundreds of millions of dollars into an

1343
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 1: account that they never get back. It's going to go

1344
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: to him eventually, but they can't use it at this point.

1345
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: But in Mahome's situation, a four under fifty million dollar

1346
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: contract only had sixty three million guaranteed at signing on

1347
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: the books because of the way the cash flow was structured.

1348
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: And then there's two year vesting guarantees from there that

1349
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: point on, so he's gonna get all his cash. But

1350
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: he actually helped owner ship and the GM out quite

1351
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: a bit with the way those first three years were structured.

1352
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a really good plan for a situation

1353
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: like Burrow in Cincinnati that have to give you know,

1354
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase one hundred million plus probably have to give

1355
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: t Higgins eighty to one hundred million over the next

1356
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: eighteen months as well. Man. Yeah, be interesting to see

1357
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: how that plays out. I'm really kind of intrigued to

1358
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: see how they do that because I'm hoping they do

1359
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: it the traditional way so they can't spend money on

1360
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: the other guys and keep that team together. I'm just

1361
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: saying how much. And let me ask you this, Mike.

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01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense because the players are

1363
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: going to get no matter what. And they're only they're

1364
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 1: in there mid twenties, and certainly there's some impatience to

1365
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 1: get nine digits into their bank account. But still they

1366
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: got to be some of these players are gotta be

1367
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: really willing to say, yeah, okay, let's do that. I'll

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01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: wait an extra four years before I get and you know,

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01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: sixty million into my counter. I'll just take the forty

1370
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: million up, you know what I mean. So the players

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01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: they get, they gotta get zero pushed back from the players,

1372
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: and that's the thing. And Burrow, it just seems like

1373
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: that dude, And he's kind of talking. He's kind of

1374
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 1: spoken out a lot about stuff like this right team first,

1375
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: that kind of and I'm certainly not going to put

1376
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: words in his mouth, but he understands what's going on here.

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01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's a smart enough a human being. He

1378
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: probably dealt with a lot of this at LSU. Let's

1379
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: be perfectly honest, right, there were a lot of miles

1380
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: to feed. There was a huge roster, a ton of

1381
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: superstars and and uh and everybody had to get a

1382
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: piece of the pie. So if he wants to keep

1383
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: that kind of situation going in Cincinnati with superstars around him,

1384
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: this is one of the ways he can do that.

1385
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: He still gets his money at the end of the game.

1386
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: But for the you know, for the for the heart

1387
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: of this contention window in Cincinnati, which you know, that's

1388
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: that's a rare thing. He might have to play a

1389
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: little ball over the next couple of sounds. Mike, thanks

1390
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: as always for the insight and the expertise. We appreciate it.

1391
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: We'll catch up with you later this offseason, my pleasure. Guys.

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01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 1: Thanks all right, that's Mike Janitty, founder and managing editor

1393
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: of Spottrack dot Com. It's a great resource if you

1394
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: want to kind of juggle the numbers, move him around.

1395
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: And he's got that cat management tool, so you can

1396
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: mess around on your own. You pull up the Bill's

1397
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: roster and say, oh yeah, let me let me restructure

1398
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: this guy. How much do we save there? Bang, let's

1399
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: restructure this guy. How much do I was playing around

1400
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: with it today, Yeah, And it really kind of effectively

1401
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: paints the picture for you in terms of what Brandon

1402
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: Bean is quite easily up against. They can with Vaughan

1403
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: and Josh, you can do a lot. You can do

1404
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: a lot with those to get down. They could, you know,

1405
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: they could get close to, if not under the cap

1406
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: the way it stands now, just those two guys. Obviously

1407
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 1: they want to get as far under as they can

1408
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 1: possibly get, but yeah, they're gonna have to have to

1409
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: give some people to play ball. And the way he said,

1410
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, there's some of these guys that you know

1411
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: are near and dear to us that probably are not

1412
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: going to be around, yeah, poorer among them. And the

1413
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: more and more we're talking about it today, the more

1414
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,799
Speaker 1: and more I'm realizing safety is a real need position

1415
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: here going forward, especially knowing Hide, at age thirty two,

1416
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: will be entering the last year of his contract in

1417
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I got to get somebody in the

1418
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: pipeline there. I mean, yeah, you're gonna transition Benford, that's great,

1419
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: but you gotta get somebody here in the pipeline to

1420
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 1: hold the fork down after one or twenty three. It's

1421
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: like one of those you gotta think a year ahead

1422
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: type sit you think about it. You got Damar probably

1423
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: not maybe not unquestioned question completely up in the air,

1424
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: right Poorer and hide who's lives it hides back? But

1425
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: for one temporarily Jaquan Johnson is in there, he's a

1426
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 1: free agent. He's not. So I got zero, they got yeah,

1427
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: they got Christian bend And Benford's a hard maybe like

1428
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: nice young player, but how's he in transition to playing

1429
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. We don't know. So yeah,

1430
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely a need position. And I just don't

1431
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: know that you that you pay twelve million to get

1432
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: Poorer back here for a year or maybe two. Maybe

1433
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: you do, but it just I don't know. I don't

1434
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: know if you can afford to do that. Yeah, because

1435
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: certainly it's like it's like safety has become the offensive

1436
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: line with po with Incognito in Wood. It's like you're

1437
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: running into that situation right where you walk into a

1438
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: season thinking you're set and all of a sudden you're

1439
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: not set. Yeah. That The thing about it, too, is

1440
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 1: what Mike Gannetti said. And you can't feel bad for

1441
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: Jordan about this. His value is at an all time high.

1442
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: There are teams out there standing in line for Jordan Poyer,

1443
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: even at his age, which is only going to drive

1444
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: his price up all the more, which is gonna make

1445
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: it harder to bring him back. So really, I think

1446
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. It would The only way Jordan

1447
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: Poyer comes back is if he's sitting there telling his agency,

1448
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving, yeah and I and he's not going

1449
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 1: to do that. He's I don't think I wouldn't if

1450
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 1: I was him, and I you know, I've lived. He

1451
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: already did right. I've been in down thirty five years,

1452
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't tell my he already did right by

1453
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: the team exactly what he did this year. He wanted

1454
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 1: more money this year, the Bills couldn't do it, and

1455
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: he still strapped it up and played injured and played

1456
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: very well. So yeah, he's not gonna do that, and

1457
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect him too, and bless his heart. I

1458
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: hope the guy becomes an NFL owner someday. He gets

1459
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 1: so rich, so you know that, good for him. Break

1460
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: time for us here when we come back more of

1461
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: your phone calls on what you deem to be the

1462
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: top two priorities for this roster in the off season.

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01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: We're back in a moment here on One Bills Live.

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01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

1465
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. We're asking you today what you

1466
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: deemed to be the top two roster priorities for the

1467
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: team this off season. We go back to the phones

1468
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: where we have some open lines for you at eight

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01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 1: five fifty, and we lead off this segment with Judy

1470
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 1: and Buffalo. What do you got for us? Judy, I'm

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01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: curious about Lineman, Becker and Doyle. What is their status

1472
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: and did they figure into the future plans of the

1473
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: Bills are nast Yeah, valid question, Judy. I would say this,

1474
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 1: Butger to my knowledge, is a free agent, so he

1475
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 1: is no longer under contract. Came off the Acci's injury

1476
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: appeared in a couple of games for Buffalo, but at

1477
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 1: the end of the season he was inactive the last

1478
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: three games, so they did not even consider him as

1479
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: one of their top eight linemen to dress on game day.

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01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: I guess if you could get him back at an

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01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: affordable price, he could be a depth player for you

1482
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: going forward. Tommy Doyle is under contract. He's still on

1483
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: his rookie deal. He'll be entering year three. He missed

1484
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: this season with a torn acl suffered in Week three,

1485
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 1: so the hope is he would be back in time

1486
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: from that for training camp. We actually saw him here

1487
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,799
Speaker 1: this past week. He's still doing rehab here in Buffalo,

1488
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 1: so credit to him for that. But I think he's also,

1489
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, a depth player as well.

1490
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: Certainly they've got they've got to invest draft capital in

1491
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: their offensive line and maybe free agent dollars as well.

1492
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,560
Speaker 1: Doyle's a different and interesting question because he's one of

1493
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: those big He's one of those six eight guys that

1494
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,440
Speaker 1: with long arms, and he's got a lot of traits.

1495
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: But he has not been able to get on the

1496
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 1: field in an offense and with an atmosphere in training

1497
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: camp for two years where he was given every opportunity

1498
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: to compete. So he was on the team, but not

1499
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: good enough to get on the field. Now, a lot

1500
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: of guys flourish after they've been around for a minute,

1501
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: and then in that third year they come back and

1502
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: they start because the first year you're just trying to

1503
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: keep your head above water, learn what to do, where

1504
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: to go, how to be, you know. Practice. Then the

1505
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: season's over and it's like then you go through and

1506
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: you watch them draft guys and you think, well, that

1507
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 1: was me just twelve months ago, and oh I get it,

1508
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 1: and they got it. Takes them a while to get

1509
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: their off season straightened away. What am I gonna do?

1510
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: Am I gonna be a pro athlete? Am I gonna

1511
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: live in my mom and dad's basement and work at

1512
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: home like I did in college? Am I gonna be

1513
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: my own guy? And you know where? Am I gonna

1514
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 1: do this? Where's the best way to do it? So

1515
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: then they do that for the second year. They go

1516
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: through their second year and they say Okay. By the

1517
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: third year, they're like, all right, here's how this is

1518
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: gonna go. Right. So Tommy Doyle would be getting into

1519
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: that offseason right now, except that he blew his ACL

1520
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 1: So now he's got that to deal with, but he

1521
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: should be in a better place to do it. So

1522
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: if he can get one hundred percent healthy, this should

1523
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: be a year where Tommy Doyle comes in and says,

1524
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: all right, I got this. But the knee throws a

1525
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 1: big question mark on all of that. Yeah, especially for

1526
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: a player of his height and length. That's a lot

1527
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: of weight on a restructured, you know, surgically repaired knee.

1528
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: So hopefully he's on the right path. He did it.

1529
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: He did it. What week three, that's the third week

1530
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: in September. We go nine months out from that. You're

1531
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: talking June is nine months give or take. It'll be close.

1532
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 1: It'll be close for the start of training camp. Yeah,

1533
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: and it'll be eleven months from the start of training

1534
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 1: camp just about till a week one of the season

1535
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: to a week one of the season. And yeah, that's

1536
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: it's nip and tuck. I mean, then he's gonna be

1537
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: how's he feel? Now, Yeah, how's he performing? He might

1538
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: be you know a guy that you can say, okay,

1539
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: if he if he so desires, maybe they make him

1540
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: as not just a swing tackle but also a guard.

1541
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: If he can move down three feet because there's you

1542
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: don't have to move as much and you know it's

1543
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: all about Tommy hard to win leverage down there, it's yes, right,

1544
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: you'd have to get a knee ben which is, by

1545
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: the way, you know, an issue. So there you go.

1546
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's in the mix. They're gonna watch him

1547
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: as he comes back. But I'll say this, their expectations

1548
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: for Tommy Doyle will be reflected on where they draft

1549
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: and where they sign free agents and what they see

1550
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: from him in his rehab. Yeah, and rest assured they'll

1551
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 1: be bringing in plenty of competition. So that's kind of

1552
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: how things stand on the offensive line. Now, hopefully that

1553
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: answers your question, Judy. I mean, we know Doyle will

1554
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: be here come training camp. The question is, to Steve's point,

1555
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 1: does he look good enough to stay here and be

1556
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: one of the top nine guys to be on the

1557
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. That's that's the question. Yeah. I mean,

1558
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: if they get into the season in the in the

1559
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: new league year starts and somebody wants to trade or something,

1560
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: you could see, you know, somebody had a file on

1561
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: Tommy Doyle and thought he was great, and they know

1562
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: they exchange physicals and all of that, and they trade

1563
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: him for a fifth round or a seventh round or whatever.

1564
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 1: But no, that's not going to happen. And I was correct,

1565
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: Ike Butcker is an unrestricted free agent. They could get

1566
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: him back here on a one year deal, pretty affordable presumably,

1567
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 1: But again I think it would be as a depth player,

1568
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 1: you know, at the guard slash center position. Now, if

1569
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris becomes a cap casualty, maybe Ike Butcker becomes

1570
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: more attractive as a depth player because I think if

1571
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: if they make that decision and Mitch Morris is a

1572
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: cap casualty to save them six million dollars on the cap,

1573
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: as Mike Janitty suggested, I think Ryan Bates becomes your

1574
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: starting center, and then Ike Butcker maybe he competes for

1575
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: a guard spot and he's your backup center because we've

1576
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: seen that from him already. So that might make him

1577
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: more attractive because he's a far more affordable option than

1578
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: Mitch Morse. And remember they Bates came back after the

1579
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: Bears made a run at him this last office. They

1580
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 1: signed him to an offer sheet the Bills matched, And

1581
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 1: that's that's important because he's tied up for a while

1582
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: he's cost control, yeah, cost control, and if he turns

1583
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: into your starting center, it's a huge I mean you

1584
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: got to think, Okay, they like him at center, but

1585
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 1: also huge savings, yes over Mitch, and that has to

1586
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: unfortunately be a consideration, even as much as they love Mitch.

1587
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's the guy. Is an unquestioned top

1588
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,520
Speaker 1: four leader on the team right just from a leadership perspective,

1589
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: and I know it's not all about leadership, but in

1590
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: my estimation, he was also one of the two most

1591
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: consistent linemen on the roster this year. Maybe I would say,

1592
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: the most consistent player from start to finish this season.

1593
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: And he's you know, he's got a you know, so

1594
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: that's two years, four years, seventeen million. Mitch Morse's one

1595
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: year for eleven. That's he's only thirty though, so you know,

1596
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 1: I know the concussion history is probably a concern there too,

1597
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: but I would extend him one year and try to

1598
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: spread the money out a little bit. With the way

1599
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line is right now, I don't know that

1600
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: I believe in addition, by subtraction, if you can't resign

1601
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: Saffold because his veteran contract is too steep, fine, but

1602
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: Mitch Moore's is under contract, and man, like I said,

1603
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: I thought he was the most consistent lineman on the

1604
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: team start to finish this season. Do you want to

1605
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: subtract that from the roster just for a cost savings.

1606
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: I'd be more inclined to spread him out and sign

1607
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: him to an extension. That's what I would kind of

1608
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 1: reduce the cap hit rather than move on from him,

1609
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: because you remove him now your line's even weaker than

1610
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: it was, just to save six million dollars. I don't

1611
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: know if I want to do that. Yeah, I think

1612
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: I think you're right because of for us, all of

1613
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: us out here. I don't know if they see it

1614
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 1: the same way, but for all of us out here,

1615
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: you don't want to tinker with EO line. He's trying

1616
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 1: to make it better exactly. You don't want to move

1617
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 1: the money around, fine, but don't go backwards. Yeah, under

1618
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 1: any it would be if you move on for you

1619
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: got to add to the top of the roster at

1620
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 1: the on the offensive. You've got ten offensive linemen on

1621
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: the on a contract, which I don't know, maybe they

1622
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: got nine. I don't say they got ten. And I'm

1623
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: just gonna say this too, Steve. A couple of games

1624
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 1: that he did miss this year, there was a noticeable yeah, exactly,

1625
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: there was a notable, noticeable difference in the functionality of

1626
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: that line, how things were executed, protection, all that stuff.

1627
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 1: My point point is this, if you're going to tinker

1628
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: with a roster of twelve guys on the offensive line,

1629
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: add guys to the top of it and cut off

1630
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: the bottom of it, not the other way around. We

1631
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 1: got to take a break here, Steve and I will

1632
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: close it up with some of our final thoughts. Now

1633
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: next on roster priorities here on one Bills Live presented

1634
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

1635
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: welcome back to one Bills Live. Some final thoughts on

1636
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet in terms of what are your top

1637
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 1: two roster priorities with the Bills. This offseason tweet sheet

1638
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

1639
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: moving system of the Buffalo Bills. JW. Socks says wide

1640
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 1: receiver speed and projection protection for Josh rob says first

1641
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 1: round wide receiver resigned. Edmonds Doug says Priority number one

1642
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: is draft O Cyrus Torrence guard prospect out of Florida

1643
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: to protect Alan. Even Mahomes in the Super Bowl couldn't

1644
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 1: do anything when he was running for his life. Every

1645
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 1: play second would be to get another playmaker for seventeen.

1646
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: Overload the offense so much that defensive play doesn't matter.

1647
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: D Jack says Bull should be on the O line

1648
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 1: enough of the patchwork. I know receivers a hot take,

1649
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: but if the line can't hold up like again Cincinnati,

1650
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: then the receiver doesn't matter as much. From Josh O Line,

1651
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: specifically left guard and hope Spencer Brown takes a step second.

1652
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: Is wide receiver a better number two to let Gabe

1653
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 1: solely be a deep threat and a slot wide receiver,

1654
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 1: Paul says. Offensive guard and defensive scheme Rob says. Resigned Edmonds,

1655
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: moved Benford to safety. Signed defensive tackle Jaffon Hargrave. If possible,

1656
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 1: he'll be a free agent from Philadelphia. Signed Mike McGlinchey,

1657
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,919
Speaker 1: the right tackle will be a free agent from San Francisco.

1658
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Move at Oliver to end draft a wide receiver in

1659
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: the first draft. A few guards in a powerback got

1660
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: a lot there, Steve, Yeah, I mean there's a lot

1661
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: of irons in the fire. We'll be keeping track of

1662
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: it all. Through all of this, we've only got so

1663
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 1: many draft picks and so much money to spend on

1664
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: free agency. We've already got to do some restructures. Those

1665
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: will be the first thing out of the gate, and

1666
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: then we'll see it's They have done an outstanding job

1667
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 1: of building this roster. They know how to do it,

1668
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: and I have full expectation that they're gonna do it again.

1669
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: I am looking at Daniel Jeremiah's top fifty prospects in

1670
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: the draft. He has and this is the first time

1671
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: I have ever seen this. Steve, He's got six tight

1672
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 1: ends in his top fifty six. It is a good

1673
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 1: tight end draft this year, really really strong. So if

1674
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: a receiver prospect isn't there at twenty seven, you've got

1675
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: a playmaking tight end that you can pair up with

1676
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox. That's intriguing. Changes your offensive structure a little bit,

1677
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: makes the run more of a threat every down. I

1678
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 1: don't think it should be ruled out. I might also

1679
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: impact your run game too if you can get a block. Also,

1680
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: let's go big outside the box. Dang it. That's it

1681
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: for us today. Here on a Wednesday, Maddie glab will

1682
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 1: be filling in for me the next year. I'm going

1683
01:29:51,600 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: to the Sabers tonight. They'll see you tomorrow at one