Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.
Speaker 2: It is Friday, January twenty third, and one of the
Speaker 2: most exciting, thrilling, edge of your seats events happening tonight
Speaker 2: live on Netflix. And I really hope they cancel that
Speaker 2: shit before it starts. And with that, welcome to this
Speaker 2: episode of Amy and TJ Roads. One of the tallest
Speaker 2: buildings in the world is going to be climbed by
Speaker 2: one of the best climbers in the world.
Speaker 1: No ropes, no safety.
Speaker 3: Yes, I am super excited. Alex Hunnold is going to
Speaker 3: free solo typey one oh one live tonight. This will
Speaker 3: be the highest and the biggest urban free solo ever
Speaker 3: and it is going to be broadcast live around the world.
Speaker 4: Do this at eight pm.
Speaker 3: Tonight on Netflix Eastern Time. It'll be nine am in
Speaker 3: Taipei local time. There will be a ten second delay.
Speaker 3: There will be a viewer discretion advisory put up before
Speaker 3: this begins.
Speaker 4: And a lot of people have a lot of thoughts.
Speaker 2: On this event, so oh right, first, remind people how tall.
Speaker 2: It's one of the top ten eleven buildings and tallest
Speaker 2: billings in the world.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: It stands at one thousand, six hundred and sixty seven
Speaker 3: feet and at one point it was the tallest building
Speaker 3: in the world, but.
Speaker 1: It got it. It's been up since two thousand and four.
Speaker 4: Two thousand and four was when it.
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, so couple things here, folks. First of all,
Speaker 2: Alex Honald. If you don't recognize the name immediately as
Speaker 2: soon as I say don wall free solo, you'll.
Speaker 1: Go, oh, the guy who was in that Oscar movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, Alex Hanald is the guy on the only guy
Speaker 2: on planet Earth to climb what is considered maybe the
Speaker 2: toughest climb on planet Earth. And he did it without
Speaker 2: a rope, the Dawn Wall at Yosemite. You cannot explain.
Speaker 2: I think it's the greatest human athletic achievement ever ever
Speaker 2: because one mistake and you did it.
Speaker 4: It's funny.
Speaker 3: As I was researching this story, they said, when it
Speaker 3: comes to free soloing, there is a one hundred percent
Speaker 3: death rate if you fall, and that is sobering to
Speaker 3: hear that. It makes sense, but to hear it put
Speaker 3: like that is I mean, I get chills actually just
Speaker 3: saying it and thinking about it.
Speaker 2: So that's what he's doing tonight, folks. One wrong move,
Speaker 2: one slip, he's dead. He is climbing a seventeen hundred
Speaker 2: foot building with nothing attached to him, folks made.
Speaker 4: Of steel and glass.
Speaker 3: And he even has talked about how it's very different
Speaker 3: than climbing a rock because it's just a different texture,
Speaker 3: a different way of gripping, a different way of everything.
Speaker 3: And so he has spent the last three months training
Speaker 3: for this live event.
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like a doesn't sound like a long time
Speaker 1: of training.
Speaker 4: No, And get this.
Speaker 3: In one recent interview he gave, the interviewer asked how
Speaker 3: many times have you climbed it and in preparation and
Speaker 3: he said two or three times?
Speaker 4: What do you mean two or three? He doesn't remember
Speaker 4: if he climbed.
Speaker 3: It two or three times fully from the bottom all
Speaker 3: the way up to the top. Now, he did these
Speaker 3: climbs with ropes, that's the distinction. So this will be
Speaker 3: the first time he does it without any sort of
Speaker 3: protective gear or ropes.
Speaker 2: So why is he doing this? This is just what
Speaker 2: these guys do. We understand. But to your point about robes,
Speaker 2: this is different and it could be more challenging because
Speaker 2: it's so much repetition. It's the same surface. He has
Speaker 2: to do the same moves, the same way versus when
Speaker 2: you're climbing out in nature on a rock. You have
Speaker 2: some technical aspects. You have to plan your route. Sometimes
Speaker 2: this foothole is different from that handhole, all kinds of
Speaker 2: different stuff. He has to be focused for a couple
Speaker 2: of hours doing those same thing in repetition. I don't
Speaker 2: know how folks how to get people in the mindset
Speaker 2: for how mind boggling what he's about to do.
Speaker 3: Is, and just what you have to overcome in terms
Speaker 3: of fear and any kind of trepidation, anything mentally that
Speaker 3: washes over you at any point can.
Speaker 4: Completely throw you.
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to have the most unbelievable focus
Speaker 3: in concentration that I cannot even imagine. Now, this building
Speaker 3: has one hundred and one floors, and they say that
Speaker 3: the hardest part is.
Speaker 4: The middle of the building.
Speaker 1: It looks weird.
Speaker 3: It's sixty four floors that have what they call it
Speaker 3: bamboo boxes.
Speaker 4: And if you go look up this.
Speaker 3: Building type one on one, it has a very specific
Speaker 3: look to it you'll understand what those bamboo boxes are.
Speaker 3: It gives the building its look a very detailed look.
Speaker 3: But there are eight segments and eight floors of steep
Speaker 3: overhanging climbing followed by a balcony.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see that.
Speaker 3: And then Donald, can you can rest on that balcony
Speaker 3: and then keep going up.
Speaker 2: Having to climb at an angle backwards and then come
Speaker 2: over the little ledge and rest and has to do that?
Speaker 1: How many times? You just eight? Eight? So that god Alex.
Speaker 3: Got And here's his quote what he thinks or what
Speaker 3: he's anticipating. He says, quote, I don't think it will
Speaker 3: be that extreme.
Speaker 4: We'll see.
Speaker 3: I think it's the perfect sweet spot where it's hard
Speaker 3: enough to be engaging for me and obviously an interesting climb.
Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2: Obviously he is a stud at this literally the best
Speaker 2: in the world.
Speaker 1: Nobody has ever done what he's done on the Dawn Wall.
Speaker 2: That thing is what two and a half times the
Speaker 2: size of the Empire State Building.
Speaker 1: Give give you some contexts.
Speaker 2: Stack the Empire State Building up two and a half
Speaker 2: times and then let this guy go out there and
Speaker 2: climb it without a rope.
Speaker 1: That is what he did at the Dawn Wall.
Speaker 2: The feet he pulled off. I'm telling Robes this stop.
Speaker 2: I want him to stop. It's too intense, it's too much,
Speaker 2: and it's too days and look the dawnwall. I get
Speaker 2: you're a climber, but you're also a single man. When
Speaker 2: you did that shit, I just personally I am terrified
Speaker 2: to the point I'm not sure if.
Speaker 1: I'll watch it.
Speaker 3: I guess I'll be watching solo because I am definitely
Speaker 3: watching this and speaking of just the spectacle that it
Speaker 3: will be. Yes, and we'll talk a little bit more
Speaker 3: about what Hanld has done to prepare, but think about
Speaker 3: even just capturing this from a production standpoint, from a
Speaker 3: live television production standpoint, They've talked about what's gone into that.
Speaker 4: So cameramen are going to be positioned.
Speaker 3: Inside the building at various places to bail during the climb,
Speaker 3: just in case they need to. And then they're going
Speaker 3: to have four high angle camera operators who will be
Speaker 3: suspended on ropes to capture him in this climb. So,
Speaker 3: I mean, just that's a whole other aspect of it,
Speaker 3: Just the fact that they want to give viewers at
Speaker 3: home all the different angles of what he's doing and
Speaker 3: where he is on the building.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean when he did the dawn roll, Jimmy Chin,
Speaker 2: another great climber, won the Oscar But same thing, they
Speaker 2: have to climb it as well, but they're doing it
Speaker 2: at ropes. Now that's a tough feed anyway. You're climbing
Speaker 2: the dawn wall with equipment. You got a camera, you
Speaker 2: gotta shoot everything. They talked about how scary it was
Speaker 2: for them, and the discussions they had to have. We're
Speaker 2: right there with him. What do we do if he falls?
Speaker 2: Do we film? How do we do? And ethically are
Speaker 2: we okay watching him put his life on the line
Speaker 2: like this and document it?
Speaker 1: Sweetheart? This is I mean, this is so uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: You really don't think you're gonna watch?
Speaker 1: Really, I don't know if I roll up. This is
Speaker 1: so so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Given one mistake, Folks, there's no name another thing you
Speaker 2: can do on this planet that if you make one mistake,
Speaker 2: you die. When you talk about adventurers or hikers or
Speaker 2: even climbing everest, yes, people fall. People die from other elements.
Speaker 2: They're even race car driving. You have an accident, you can.
Speaker 4: One mistake, robes you cannot survive.
Speaker 2: If he gets above how many feet is it a
Speaker 2: fall he can't survive.
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2: But not that far, not that far, maybe ten stories,
Speaker 2: five stories, not long his life is going to be
Speaker 2: on the line with every move he makes for how
Speaker 2: many hours are supposed to take.
Speaker 4: So here's someone has climbed this before.
Speaker 3: One other person has climbed It was a French climber
Speaker 3: for the opening on Christmas Day and he did it
Speaker 3: with ropes and protective gear. Elaine Robert. He's a famous
Speaker 3: French rock climber. But it took him nearly four hours
Speaker 3: to climb. He said it was twice as long as
Speaker 3: he anticipated. He thought he could do it in two hours.
Speaker 3: He ended up doing it in four hours, again with
Speaker 3: ropes and protective gear. And we'll get into some of
Speaker 3: the betting. But people are they believe that he'll be
Speaker 3: able to get up to the top within ninety minutes,
Speaker 3: so an hour and a half. But there obviously are
Speaker 3: lots of factors in play.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: The weather right now looks like it's in his favor.
Speaker 3: So this will all take place at nine am local
Speaker 3: time in Taipei. The weather is said to be sixty
Speaker 3: two degrees and partly cloudy. That's pretty dang perfect, and
Speaker 3: there's just a twenty percent chance of rain. The rain
Speaker 3: chances increased by one pm and by all accounts he'll
Speaker 3: be more than finished by then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well'd you say ten second delay? And then they
Speaker 2: have to do that obviously. But I just I used
Speaker 2: to get excited. I used to be thrilled, and we
Speaker 2: haven't even said. I have spent time with Alex Donald
Speaker 2: and a lot of these climbers, and people look at him.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't look at him and have any criticism and think, Wow,
Speaker 2: this guy's a daredevil.
Speaker 1: He's push you.
Speaker 2: No, not none of that, because talking to these are
Speaker 2: the safest dude you meet. They take every safety precaution.
Speaker 2: They're not thrill seeking, fearless. I have no fear of
Speaker 2: death kind of guys. No, these are just guys good
Speaker 2: at what they do. They love what they do. They
Speaker 2: have a great hobby, and they've decided to continue to
Speaker 2: challenge themselves, challenge each other.
Speaker 1: I get that.
Speaker 2: I'm talking as a human being who has met another
Speaker 2: human being who is now a father, and he is
Speaker 2: now a father, and I'm just looking at it that way.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 2: But Alex, my god, you support not root for you.
Speaker 2: But Jesus christ, Ah, Well.
Speaker 3: When we come back, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna
Speaker 3: actually talk about that. We're gonna talk about what Alex
Speaker 3: has said about his wife, Sanny and his two children,
Speaker 3: because that was not in play before, and how long.
Speaker 4: He thinks it's going to take him to make it up.
Speaker 3: But there are a lot of ethical concerns and we'll
Speaker 3: get into those as well.
Speaker 2: All Right, we continue here on Amy and TJ on
Speaker 2: this what should be an exciting day, right, everybody anticipating
Speaker 2: you obviously you got Netflix. Every time you turn on
Speaker 2: you see the advertisement up there Fry live event Alex
Speaker 2: Hanold Free.
Speaker 1: Solo one of the tallest buildings in the world.
Speaker 4: And you're not gonna watch.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I will pay.
Speaker 3: I am absolutely gonna watch. I do feel notts in
Speaker 3: my stomach just thinking about it. And yes, there are
Speaker 3: legitimate ethical concerns about what he is attempting on a
Speaker 3: live broadcast, and there are concerns about why he wants
Speaker 3: to do this now as a father and as a husband.
Speaker 3: And there is the other concern about what this seeing
Speaker 3: something like this live on international television. Who it could
Speaker 3: influence to try certain very dangerous, risky behavior. So this
Speaker 3: could embolden younger climbers to take on projects or to
Speaker 3: take on risks that they wouldn't have otherwise because it
Speaker 3: looks cool and they want to be like Alex Hannold.
Speaker 1: Can you start with the family stuff.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think he should be criticized at all
Speaker 2: because you shouldn't do this because you have a family. No,
Speaker 2: I don't think that now personally I can feel that,
Speaker 2: but a criticism his way for doing that. He made
Speaker 2: this decision. She knew who she married, she knew who
Speaker 2: she was getting into. She's probably known about this climb
Speaker 2: for who knows how long.
Speaker 4: She chose to have children with him, knowing all of
Speaker 4: the above.
Speaker 3: And look, war correspondents get thrown into this as well.
Speaker 3: They'll say, why would you go and cover a war
Speaker 3: if you have children at home? Yes, people can throw shade,
Speaker 3: But here is what he said.
Speaker 4: Specifically.
Speaker 3: The New York Times actually did a one on one
Speaker 3: with him, and he said this about his wife, Sanny. Well,
Speaker 3: she's stressed about the event side of it, like the spectacle.
Speaker 3: She's worried about all the public commentary. I don't think
Speaker 3: she's worried about the actual climate, lest go. So that's
Speaker 3: what he said now about being a husband and a dad. Wait,
Speaker 3: you hear this exchange, I want to really get your
Speaker 3: take on this, he says. Honestly, I don't think the
Speaker 3: calculus has changed that much because I never wanted to die,
Speaker 3: which is why I put so much effort into the
Speaker 3: preparation and training. I mean, implicit in the question is
Speaker 3: that I have more to live for. And yet I
Speaker 3: do have more to live for, and I'm I'm still
Speaker 3: doing my very best to not die.
Speaker 4: Here's the follow up from the reporter.
Speaker 3: But it's not just that you have more to live for,
Speaker 3: it's that your loss would be felt in a deep
Speaker 3: way for more than just Sannie.
Speaker 4: Here is what Alex Hunholdt said, kind of.
Speaker 3: I mean baby Alice wouldn't remember, Baby June probably wouldn't remember.
Speaker 4: She'll be four in another month.
Speaker 3: It would be felt, and obviously it would be super
Speaker 3: hard for Sanny, but they'll be well provided for. I
Speaker 3: don't feel like I'd be leaving them in the lurch.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't even necessarily be traumatized their whole life.
Speaker 2: So let me tell you this ropes. I sat with
Speaker 2: him for a couple of hours. That is an exact
Speaker 2: Alex Hanneld answer. He is as stone, even keeled, calculated
Speaker 2: in what he does. He calculates risks, he calculates rewards,
Speaker 2: He calculates in a very practical way. That is an
Speaker 2: absolute Alex Hannold answer. I hadn't seen that before this moment.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: It made my jaw drop. There's no emotion in it whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's an unemotional guy, some robot, but
Speaker 2: I'm saying the way his mind works. And as I'm
Speaker 2: sitting in front of him talking about the dawn Wall
Speaker 2: and what he did and I'm on the edge of
Speaker 2: my seat and going crazy and whatnot, he was as chill.
Speaker 2: Yes it was technical that he was just technical. And yes,
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that he looks at this in a
Speaker 2: technical way because quite technically.
Speaker 1: She's probably not gonna remember me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she'll grow up with won't have her dad around,
Speaker 2: but she's not gonna now the four year old.
Speaker 1: It might hear her. That is, he gave a literal,
Speaker 1: unemotional answer that.
Speaker 4: Sounds I'd love to hear his wedding vows.
Speaker 1: You know what. He probably cried, No, No.
Speaker 3: He probably just repeated what the efficient told him to say.
Speaker 1: It. A lot of people do that, by the way,
Speaker 1: But look if.
Speaker 3: You haven't seen free solo In fact, I kind of
Speaker 3: want to rewatch it now because he is he is very.
Speaker 2: Logical, he's different, he's built different.
Speaker 3: Do what he is attempting to do and what he
Speaker 3: has already done. If you didn't have that mindset, you
Speaker 3: just couldn't put You couldn't risk it. Even if there
Speaker 3: was a minuscule chance, and there's more than a minuscule
Speaker 3: chance here.
Speaker 4: You still couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: And here's the consideration about the influence he has on
Speaker 3: younger clim climbers is legit.
Speaker 4: Look, I tried to find a number.
Speaker 3: There isn't a number out there about how many climbers
Speaker 3: have died free soloing, because they're not all big spectacles
Speaker 3: and it's hard to get an actual tally.
Speaker 4: But they say it's a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they just said there's a pretty significant number.
Speaker 3: And there was just this past June. Do you remember
Speaker 3: the eighteen year old who fell in Yosemite. Oh, the
Speaker 3: climber No and his mother talked about how it was
Speaker 3: his dream. It was he was eighteen years old, he
Speaker 3: loved Alex Hanold. He fell to his death in Texas.
Speaker 3: It was last June at Yosemite.
Speaker 4: And then there's this trend called rooftopping.
Speaker 3: They said, were people, yes, get access to the tops
Speaker 3: of skyscrapers and then they take photos of themselves dangling
Speaker 3: from the edge, and that has led to multiple deaths.
Speaker 4: But there is real concern that.
Speaker 3: Look, anyone who is an avid climber or is thinking
Speaker 3: about taking that next step to free soloing, they see
Speaker 3: something like this and they think, if he can do what,
Speaker 3: I can do it.
Speaker 4: And it's not necessarily true.
Speaker 2: But we have to look at it the other way.
Speaker 2: We see him and why should he not be an
Speaker 2: inspiration for someone overcoming fear who is training. If you
Speaker 2: look into it, he is an inspiration. I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: you sit with this guy, you will be inspired by him,
Speaker 2: his story, his discipline, Oh my goodness. Yes, to show
Speaker 2: climbing in this way, to let it be a big event,
Speaker 2: to show how good he is, I think that is
Speaker 2: a great showcase. Yes, there are idiots out there. There
Speaker 2: are idiots out there who watch a NASCAR race and
Speaker 2: go out into the street and try to do those moves. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's that part's going to happen. I understand that concern.
Speaker 2: My question I don't know if you've seen I'm sorry
Speaker 2: if I put you on the spot here Rod just
Speaker 2: about the why the country would agree to this, like
Speaker 2: why he would be allowed to do something like this
Speaker 2: or one of their buildings. They must have some incentive
Speaker 2: be getting something out of it. Maybe it's just the
Speaker 2: attention I think.
Speaker 3: I don't I didn't read anywhere what their motivation or
Speaker 3: how they were incentivized to allow this to take place.
Speaker 4: But I'm sure it's nice to have all.
Speaker 3: Eyes on your city, your beautiful building that you're very
Speaker 3: proud of, and so everyone will be watching, all eyes
Speaker 3: will be on Taipei. I can't think of another reason
Speaker 3: why that would happen in the world except for this event.
Speaker 3: And look, I know you're not surprised that Vegas is
Speaker 3: betting on all of this. There are there are bets
Speaker 3: on his fate.
Speaker 1: On they're betting on his life, as.
Speaker 3: There are bets on his fate, and there are bets
Speaker 3: on his completion time. And so the odds suggest he
Speaker 3: will do it in seventy five.
Speaker 1: What are the odds on.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that. I actually didn't want to google that.
Speaker 3: In fact, it was what I read. It was very tasteful.
Speaker 4: They just said there are bets on his fate.
Speaker 2: But they're official, official line, like a Vegas line on
Speaker 2: that there are.
Speaker 3: They named the the houses that were taking those bets.
Speaker 4: And so, yes, I want to ask you a question,
Speaker 4: do you think? And I part of.
Speaker 3: The reason, or a big part of the reason you
Speaker 3: might not watch is because you know him, because you
Speaker 3: met him, because you sat down with him, because I
Speaker 3: guess it would be tragic. But I don't feel that
Speaker 3: personal connection because I didn't. Actually, when you know someone,
Speaker 3: when you've talked with them, when you've looked in their eyes,
Speaker 3: it feels different.
Speaker 2: Okay maybe, And you've heard me talk about this for
Speaker 2: years and you've been on air with me when I'm
Speaker 2: live hanging dangling off a cliff. I got into climbing
Speaker 2: at ABC and Alex and Jimmy Chen took me and
Speaker 2: Conrad anchor Kevin Jeorges, the best climbers in the world
Speaker 2: I have been lucky enough to climb with. So I
Speaker 2: feel I shouldn't say a sense of community, but some
Speaker 2: sense of connection to these guys and what they do
Speaker 2: and to see that, And yes, Alex is I am
Speaker 2: not excited about it. I'm just not I do if
Speaker 2: they I hope it rains and they canceled the Sam thing.
Speaker 4: He's excited about it, I know, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Sure his family is excited.
Speaker 2: But my god, maybe that's it robes. I just I
Speaker 2: just know there And it's not even a matter of
Speaker 2: criticizing him. It's just personally, you know what, if I
Speaker 2: were going to do something dangerous, you would be nervous
Speaker 2: about it. It's just you see anybody that you care
Speaker 2: about and you admire being put at risk, and you're
Speaker 2: going to be concerned. Maybe that's just the symptom.
Speaker 4: I get that.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's so interesting because yes, that makes
Speaker 3: a huge difference. You feel that you have skin in
Speaker 3: the game because you have a connection.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: But he even talked about how his dad died when
Speaker 3: he was thirteen, and so he has been through hard
Speaker 3: stuff and he's he basically that's life and shit happens.
Speaker 3: And I think that's his attitude even about his own
Speaker 3: life in that sense, like, yeah, it's just what happens sometimes.
Speaker 2: He is he is a special, special guy who I
Speaker 2: will for I will stand by. This is the greatest
Speaker 2: human athletic achievement ever is climbing that damn thing, because
Speaker 2: one move and you're dead. And roads out there Yosemite,
Speaker 2: the l Capten don Wald. Yeah, deaths over the years, absolutely,
Speaker 2: it has claimed dozens of people trying to climb that wall.
Speaker 2: And so yes, tonight, I know we got a little
Speaker 2: will be out for a little bit and then we
Speaker 2: will be back in time for the event.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. You'll probably pull me into.
Speaker 4: It if he gets to the top.
Speaker 3: By the way, he did say he wouldn't say exactly
Speaker 3: how much he's getting paid. He's not getting paid to
Speaker 3: climb the building. He's getting paid for the public spectacle,
Speaker 3: is how he put it. He said, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to tell you. It's an embarrassing amount. So look, he
Speaker 3: will be and his family will be heavily rewarded.
Speaker 1: Even that was Alex hannod answer. Would most people kind
Speaker 1: of bullshit around it and just say you know what?
Speaker 2: He said, Yeah, it's it's very ridiculous what I'm getting
Speaker 2: for this. And he has all kinds of sponsors.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I just and look if he gets scared,
Speaker 3: he said, there is a bailout at any point on
Speaker 3: any balcony.
Speaker 4: He said he can just go inside and use the elevator.
Speaker 4: So he has an off ramp. Doubt he'll take it,
Speaker 4: but he has one.
Speaker 2: All right, folks, well gear up, get yourself ready, and
Speaker 2: if you have a moment today, check out Alex O'Connell.
Speaker 2: Look at Google that name, and you will just be
Speaker 2: in awe of this young man who was about to do.
Speaker 2: How hell is he's forty nine forty yet? But yeah,
Speaker 2: you'll be in awe of what he has done and
Speaker 2: certainly in awe of what he's attempting to do tonight
Speaker 2: live on Netflix, Aid.
Speaker 1: Houston.
Speaker 2: All right, well, half of us will be watching watching
Speaker 2: you guys. All Right, folks, I always appreciate you spending
Speaker 2: some time with us. We'll have the morning Run and
Speaker 2: other updates ready for you in our feed today, but
Speaker 2: for now, we appreciate you spending some time with us.
Speaker 1: On t J. Holmes on behalf of my dear Amy Rollbock.
Speaker 1: We will talk to