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Speaker 1: This is our lives, this is our fashion. That's the

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Speaker 2: This is Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Back like a bad habit from the belly of the Beast.

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Speaker 3: So actually not quite yet, but we'll be in the

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Speaker 3: a Wednesday edition of the best show in combat sports.

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Speaker 3: It is time for Morning Combat. I am merely just

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Speaker 3: My name is Luke Thomas from CBS Sports Showtime on occasion,

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Speaker 4: line before there. But great to be back, Luke. I'm

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Speaker 4: I am here today to declare war on our competition.

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Speaker 4: Coming on, as they say, come on, So we're bringing it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it's possible that Pooria and Olivera

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Speaker 2: I saw an amazing tweet. Believe it or not.

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Speaker 2: For UFC two sixty nine. Let me read it here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just listen to these numbers, right, fifty four

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Speaker 2: But here's my point. He had that vicious, vicious knockout.

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Speaker 3: Where would Charles Olivera go if it's just a one

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Speaker 4: It would all open the door for legitimate cynicism in

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Speaker 2: Now, and he is one of three Charles Olivera current

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, BC, let's turn the tide here

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Speaker 2: But what if Poorier wins the.

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Speaker 4: Look who the hell this guy has defeated Connor McGregor twice,

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Speaker 2: This is what MMA is about. This is why you watch.

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Speaker 3: You're looking out for fights like these. They don't happen

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Speaker 2: Them along the way. BC it takes us to go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I don't know which clip they pulled here, Luke, but hey,

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Speaker 4: We wait now and hear his mindset entering UFC two

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Speaker 4: sixty nine.

432
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Speaker 5: I don't so much think about where I'll fit into

433
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Speaker 5: the to the whole in mixed.

434
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Speaker 2: Martial arts history.

435
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Speaker 5: I think about more of goals that I set off

436
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Speaker 5: of myself and things that I want to check off

437
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 5: my to do list, And you know, being the world

438
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 5: champion is at the top of that list of on

439
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 5: the MMA. You know, portion of my things to do

440
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 5: in life, being the world champion, the best in the

441
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 5: world at one hundred and fifty five pounds is you know,

442
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Speaker 5: I feel like I've been chasing this goal longer than

443
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Speaker 5: I haven't been chasing this goal in terms of my life,

444
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Speaker 5: going to sleep, waking up every day thinking about being

445
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Speaker 5: called the world champion.

446
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 2: You know, this is for me.

447
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 5: This isn't for the history books of MMA.

448
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 2: This is a personal thing, you know.

449
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 4: And it was pretty cool, Luke that I wore my

450
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Speaker 4: one of my better floral arrangements to match his pinwheel

451
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 4: hat that he had on with those helicopter blades above it. So,

452
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 4: you know, good, good little piece of business there, Luke.

453
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Speaker 4: If you're interested in that type of.

454
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Speaker 2: Thing, definitely interested in that type of thing. All right.

455
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: We talk about a different fight on this card.

456
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Speaker 3: It's one that's not really getting a ton of attention BC.

457
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 3: It's the bantamweight women's title fight. There are, of course

458
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 3: two title fights on this card. This one is, I think,

459
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 3: in many people's eyes, the opposite of the first one. Right, well,

460
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,719
Speaker 3: you do have two, you know, decorated, celebrated figures, but

461
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: that one is really close. Our friends at Caesar Sportsbook

462
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 3: have Poria currently sitting at a minus one sixty Charles

463
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 3: Lavera sitting at plus one thirty five. But Amanda Nunez

464
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 3: defending her belt against Julian Openia. Caesars has Amanda Nunez

465
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Speaker 3: as a minus eight hundred Julian Openia at plus five

466
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 3: point fifty BC. Is there a portion of the story

467
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: to this fight that intrigues you other than hey, I

468
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: just want to see Amanda Nunez feast again.

469
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 4: Not really now. Look, Juliana Panna has been you know,

470
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 4: teasing for about six years now that she could be,

471
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: you know, one of the next big things at bandam weaight,

472
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 4: I mean I'll never forget. You know, back when Rowsey

473
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 4: was still champion, interviewing her back on what was that

474
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: podcast I co hosted on ESPN with brett O Kamoto,

475
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 4: the the Five Rounds Pot whatever was called.

476
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Speaker 2: Luke I was on it one time.

477
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Speaker 4: Oh hey how about that? Love me some brett O Kamoto,

478
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Speaker 4: as you already know, and you know, Penya always talked

479
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 4: a good game, so aggressive, and you're like, man, one day,

480
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 4: this could be something. But Luke, she never really became that.

481
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Speaker 4: And I'm not gonna sit here and hold up a

482
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Speaker 4: sign and protest her getting this title shot. The top

483
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 4: ten at bantam Wade is hurting, sent you know in

484
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 4: the post Rowsey and Tate era. I mean it's hurting

485
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Speaker 4: because in one sense Amanda ran through it. It's also

486
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 4: hurting because it never properly regenerated. So if you're gonna

487
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Speaker 4: look at the top ten, you're gonna quickly ask yourself,

488
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 4: you know who could have been right now? You know,

489
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 4: even Irenadaa, who had looked really good, was coming off

490
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 4: the loss to Holly Holm. Everyone else is seemingly coming

491
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 4: off a loss or I have already lost to Amanda.

492
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Speaker 4: So I get why. You know Pania's getting this fight,

493
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 4: And certainly she can talk a big game, and maybe

494
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: her getting on the microphone after defeating Sarah McMahon and

495
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 4: calling out Amanda and saying you're scared of me, You've

496
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: been duck in me, maybe that's a big part of

497
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 4: her getting it. But Luke, the reality on Pania is,

498
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 4: whether it be injury or whatever else, she never quite

499
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 4: made it there. She's fought just four times in the

500
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Speaker 4: last five years, and she's two and two in those fights,

501
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 4: and the losses. We're fairly dominant losses. She was finished

502
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 4: by Valentino Chefchenko and then the same by Jermaine Durandamy

503
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 4: to sort of show you that she's not quite at

504
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 4: that level. Luke, I don't want to sit here and

505
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 4: crap on her because I love her fighting spirit, in

506
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 4: her aggressiveness. But even the win that got her this fight,

507
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 4: the Sarah McMahon won. McMahon was forty one and had

508
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 4: lost three or four. So you get what I'm saying here, Luke,

509
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: Amanda's gonna be a big betting favorite no matter what,

510
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 4: because she's the goat. Do I want somebody in this

511
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Speaker 4: spot at the very least who's going for the upset,

512
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 4: Who who has who has balls? Who's gonna swing for

513
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 4: the fences? Yeah? That's Painia. I like that side. I

514
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: have not seen big time finishing power out of her.

515
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 4: I can't really write up a path to victory that

516
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: doesn't involve Amanda Nuwnas somehow having weight cutting issues because

517
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 4: we haven't seen her at Banham Wait in two years,

518
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Speaker 4: and the last time we did, I don't want to

519
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 4: say she looked human, but she had one of her

520
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 4: more competitive fights of this great twelve fight win streak

521
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: in the rematch with Jermaine Randomy, where at times she

522
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 4: didn't look like Mandy the Destroyer. If that's the thing

523
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 4: or the lion is to put some real respect on

524
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Speaker 4: her name. All this to say is, Luke, it's great

525
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 4: to have Nuna's back at this weight division. I don't

526
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Speaker 4: have high hopes for how this fight ends. I think

527
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Speaker 4: she's gonna steamroll Juliana Pena, but at the very least,

528
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 4: you know she's coming to win Paenna. She's an underdog

529
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Speaker 4: who believes in herself. So we'll see what happens. But Luke,

530
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Speaker 4: can you clean up the mess I just made? Or

531
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Speaker 4: is it what it is at the end?

532
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Speaker 3: I mean, I would be dishonest if I was saying

533
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Speaker 3: that I expect Juliana Pena to win and if we're

534
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 3: past this prolog and again, eventually it doesn't become that.

535
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: But you know, there's just not a ton of reason

536
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: looking at their recent runs and overall body of work

537
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: to like affirmatively declare that Juliana Panne is going to

538
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Speaker 3: beat Amanda Uns. And here's why. I don't know that

539
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 3: I could muster that argument. But I will also say

540
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Speaker 3: that that way of looking at events will get you

541
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Speaker 3: into trouble over time. I mean, listen, one of the

542
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Speaker 3: most impressive and difficult things to do is what Amanda

543
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Speaker 3: new Nest has done to this point, namely to occupy

544
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Speaker 3: a weight class title and then welcome on every challenger

545
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Speaker 3: that you encounter who has earned their way to the

546
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Speaker 3: top of that position. Sometimes the fights have been close,

547
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: like in the Chevchenko rematch, and sometimes they've been you know,

548
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: she's been absolutely blowing people out. But the reality is

549
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: eventually that comes to a decline or a stop, and

550
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: sometimes an MMA in very sudden, unexpected ways. Usually when

551
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: a title changes hands at MMA, you know, sometimes you

552
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: can see it coming, but a lot of times you're like, wow,

553
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: I did not see that coming in the way that

554
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: it happened. It happens quite frequently. So what I would

555
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 3: say is, again, I cannot cobble together by looking at

556
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: what has happened. A clear case for Juliana Pinna. But

557
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: what I would say is a you alluded to one

558
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: thing about Amanda Nunez kind of telegraphing her exit, not

559
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: eminently but not too far apart either. That's that's a

560
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: be What I would say is, I don't know who

561
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: outside of Schevchenko. I would look at in that list

562
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: of contenders to be like, oh, here's someone who can

563
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 3: strike with her. You know, I don't only know that

564
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 3: they exist. Maybe al Donna could do it, but you know,

565
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: could she do it for five rounds? Giving the punishing

566
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 3: power of Amanda Unas, I don't like her chances, but

567
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: if anybody's got a chance at all, it's probably going

568
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Speaker 3: to be on the ground.

569
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Speaker 2: Not that Amanda Nunez is.

570
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Speaker 3: Bad there, far from it, but that would not be

571
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: the strongest part of her game. Albeit her top control

572
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: with ground and pound could be can be pretty good.

573
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Speaker 3: Juliana Penna, if she is wise at all, and she is,

574
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: is probably not going to strike with Amanda Nunez very much.

575
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Speaker 3: So you add in these larger historical factors that the

576
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: most difficult thing to do is to stand a post

577
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: and welcome challengers. You add in the fact that she

578
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: has telegraphed something of a not too distant exit, and

579
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: you've got an opponent here who you know. When she

580
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: returned to the UFC struggled a little bit, but I

581
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: think in her last outing actually looked pretty good. Who

582
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 3: is going to have a particular mode of attacking Nunez

583
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: that I would argue gives contenders in a general the

584
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: best chance at winning. Maybe you still think that chance

585
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: is low, and maybe it is. But I guess what

586
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: I would say is there are enough contextual factors here

587
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: not to make me pick a Juliana Penia. But I

588
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: will say I'm a little bit more intrigued about what

589
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 3: could happen here even if Pena loses that I think

590
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: a lot of other folks, I do think that an

591
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: exit for Amanda Nunez is going to happen pretty soon.

592
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 5: Ish.

593
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 3: This might be the kind of thing to hasten it.

594
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 3: Having a kid certainly is a wonderful thing, but it

595
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: can be a disruptor in your life. And dude doesn't

596
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 3: have as well. But or your show, you know, or

597
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: your show that's right, a lot of things there. But

598
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 3: I'm just pointing out, dude, the people who are like,

599
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna give us a second thought. Okay,

600
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: I'm not asking you to pick Panya, I'm not picking Paynya.

601
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 3: But I'm pretty like, I'm curious actually to see how

602
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: this one goes. Surprises an mma happened when you least

603
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: expect it. Amanda doing this is trying something difficult. I

604
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: am curious about this comin event, Okay.

605
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: I mean, look when when when Holme upset Rousey, there

606
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: was definite reason to go to go back and say, man,

607
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: we should have saw some of that come and given

608
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: the style contrast. But uh, maybe I got to see

609
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: this to believe it. I do have that same question

610
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: I was going to ask you about. You know, what's

611
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: left for Amanda to accomplish? This twelve fight win streak

612
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: is really unrivaled. She's being everyone with a pulse that

613
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 4: she had a chance to fight so many former champions

614
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 4: and beat them soundly. Uh, you know, I don't see

615
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: a huge need to make a home rematch or a

616
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: GDR trilogy? Does Amanda, if she wins this, look to

617
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 4: do the Chevchenko trilogy? To leave some extra no doubt?

618
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 4: I mean, is it just staying busy in cash and

619
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: checks because no one's coming close to her? Because unless

620
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 4: Kayla Harrison's come through that door, unless Cyborg's coming back

621
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: to the UFC, what's left, Luke, what's left to keep

622
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: the champ motivated?

623
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: Nothing?

624
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you compare her situation to Jose Aldo, which

625
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: is to say that you know Amanda had some stumbles

626
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: early in her career, as well most fighters do, but

627
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: once she got cooking, she basically never looked back again.

628
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: Chevchenko rematch something of a controversial fight, but you get

629
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: the idea like it's just been win on and when

630
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: I say win, I don't just mean a victory in

631
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: the cage, but like each one more significant than the last, right,

632
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: just taking out all of her contemporaries across two way

633
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: classes and frankly with ease for long stretches of it.

634
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 3: Aldo obviously had a lot of successful What I mean

635
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: to say is he lost his belt and you know,

636
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: he got the interim one at UFC two hundred, but

637
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: more or less never recaptured it. But what he is

638
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: doing is that, you know, going back and showing the

639
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: enthusiasm now that he didn't necessary really have before or

640
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: you know, he had those losses. Let me show you

641
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: how how competitive I can still be across three weight

642
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: classes or two weight classes. I should say, even this

643
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: late into my run, like almost making up for lost time.

644
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: That's not quite right, but something along those lines. Amanda

645
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: Nunez doesn't really have to do that, and can't even

646
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: really do that, Like what does beating Julianapina on Saturday

647
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: meaningfully add to what she's already accomplished. It's a nice

648
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: win against a very tough competitor if it ends up happening,

649
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: but it doesn't meaningfully alter her legacy in any kind

650
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: of way. She could keep going and you could say, wow,

651
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: she beat good fighters for X period of time because

652
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: she was just so good. But in terms of the

653
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: meaningful heights she can reach, I even would say commercially,

654
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: I don't really think that there is. And again, dude,

655
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: you factor that in. That's so impressive that someone could

656
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: just dominate the game in that kind of way. You

657
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: beat the game in the most obvious of ways. But dude,

658
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: eventually the game will come for you if you stick

659
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: around long enough.

660
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: Is that Saturday? Maybe not.

661
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: But it's not so dismissible that I think people should

662
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: lose interest. They should have interest. Juliana Pena is full

663
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: of vinegar and piss, and I mean that as a compliment.

664
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: She has a great skill set in terms of the

665
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: tiny windows of opportunity.

666
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: To beat someone like a man.

667
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: I mean, Amanda noon is, dude, she only beat Durando

668
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: Me in the rematch because she was able to make

669
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: it a ground fight. Of orse, she beat Durando me

670
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: in the first fight because of the ground. But what

671
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying is Derando me as a threat to either

672
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: get to the ground or defend herself on the ground, dude,

673
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: is not Juliana Pana whatsoever. Of course, Penia is not

674
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: the same threat on the feet. But again it's I'm

675
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: just saying Pina has more going here than just a

676
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: coin flip. I would argue that, and I think you

677
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: need to be fair to her about that.

678
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: Given your history of connection with South America. Would you

679
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: are you are you saying that that Venezuelan women are

680
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: spicy or is that inappropriate for.

681
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: Me to say?

682
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: Well, in fairness, you would have two South American women here,

683
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: so how would you?

684
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: How would you?

685
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: Just?

686
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: We don't talk about Venezuela much, Luke. Okay, So that's

687
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 4: all I'm saying, all right, Is it a rival? The dynamics? Okay, Luke.

688
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Venezuela and Columbia are very similar, but obviously one

689
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: is much more mismanaged than the other one.

690
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: So there you go.

691
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: I don't know which one that is, though, Luke, Okay,

692
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: I'll ask you offline. I don't want to insul it.

693
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: Venezuela is much more mismanager than Colombia unfortunately, But.

694
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: In any case, I actually am like, you know what,

695
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: I'll say this BC. What would be your level of

696
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: surprise if Paana survives a tough first round, then starts

697
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: to take over in the second, and then gets on

698
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: top over maybe someone who maybe Amanda doesn't have the

699
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: proper gas tank, and then you know, finds a way

700
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: to like win in the third. My question to you

701
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: is how surprised should we be? I would argue somewhat surprised,

702
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: but not too much, not too much.

703
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: I'd be shocked, Luke, I'd be shocked.

704
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: Really, No, you're giving her like no chance than one

705
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: whould be surprised.

706
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: Okay, Luke, That's what I'm saying to you. Brendan Okay, yes, Luke,

707
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't really give her much of a chance.

708
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 4: I don't. She's not gonna finish her, Luca gonna submit her.

709
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: I mean, these things don't happen to Amanda and the narrative.

710
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: The last time out for Amanda at one forty five

711
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 4: was okay, had you know Nina had a child? Is

712
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: this gonna change her mindset didn't change shit, Luke. So

713
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: I look forward to Payna going out there with the

714
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: performance of her life and making this one fun because

715
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 4: the odds tell you it won't be, but we'll see

716
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: what That's why they fight the fights, Luke.

717
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: Okay, BC, there's this card is fucking amazing. There are

718
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: just an endless stream of good fights on there. Let

719
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: me pick out two more I'd love to quickly talk

720
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: about if we can. First, Cody Garbrant at flyweight taken

721
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: on kay Kara France. Our friends at Caesar Sportsbook they

722
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 3: have kay Carra France as a slight underdog plus one

723
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: twenty Cody Garbrant minus one forty.

724
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: What to you about this fight is intriguing.

725
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's one hundred percent centered upon whether

726
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 4: you and the you know, the betting odds play a

727
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 4: factor in this. If you believe Cody Garbran can pull

728
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 4: off a cut down to one twenty five and not

729
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: be diminished in terms of his stanema or punch resistance,

730
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 4: and not be the same shadow of himself that you

731
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: know rival TJ. Dillashaw was a few years ago when

732
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 4: he tried this against the hudo. If you believe that. Then. Look, obviously,

733
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 4: you know Garbaent's not just a live dog here. He's

734
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 4: the betting favorite because of that power, because of that

735
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: size and that experience. But Luke, you know, I wonder now,

736
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: was that how good he looked in that comeback win

737
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 4: against Raphael Sansou? Was that fool's gold to us? I

738
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: mean he looked confident. He wasn't willingly getting into brawls

739
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 4: like he had in the three fight losing streak against

740
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 4: Munio's and Dila Shaw twice. Uh, but you know that

741
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: all seemed to go away in the fight after that.

742
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: Who was it Rob Font that he lost to Luke? Yes, badly,

743
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,479
Speaker 4: lost badly, was a little bit lifeless. So I've got

744
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,959
Speaker 4: to be honest here. You know, I don't have big

745
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 4: time confidence. I think there's Hella value and Kai car

746
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: France as a plus underdog here given his his acumen.

747
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 4: I know he's lost two of four, but those losses

748
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 4: to Brandon Royval and current champion Brandon Moreno were high level.

749
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: I feel like Kai car France with that that CKB

750
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 4: style in the how thoughtful that is, with the footwork

751
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: and the speed, I think that this is his fight

752
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: to win, and I think if guard Brand can prove

753
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 4: me wrong, if you can go out there and knock

754
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 4: kk France out, we've got a new title contender in

755
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 4: this already fun division, you know, post Mighty Mouse and

756
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: post Sahudo, which has some fun players right now, from

757
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: Moreno to Figaredo to my guy ascar Askarov. This is

758
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 4: a fun division right now. I would welcome Cody into that.

759
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: But one whether we're talking about storylines on Wednesday or

760
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 4: x's and o's on Friday, it comes down to what

761
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: Cody looks like in the first you know, two or

762
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 4: three minutes physically.

763
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: In this way, I would say this is big stakes

764
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: for Cody, because I'm not I'm not saying what I'm

765
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is true, But it does feel

766
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: like he's hit a roadblock at bansamweight and he's looking

767
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: to flyweight as a way to revive things or you know,

768
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: get back a little bit of what he had previously

769
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: at bansamweight. And that's not necessarily uncommon that fighters would

770
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: do that. But against Kay car France, who you know

771
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: the truth about Ky car Francis, If he beats Garbrant,

772
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: you could argue that's his best MMA win to date.

773
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: We don't know how Cody's gonna look yet, but that

774
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: seems not implausible. But for Cody, here's the opposite of that. Right,

775
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: you were previously the champion at bansom weight and now

776
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 3: you've hit a bit of a roadblock there where listening

777
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: to the division has passed him by, or at least

778
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 3: for now it has. Anyway, you go down to flyweight.

779
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: If Kay car France, who is a very good flyweight

780
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: but not one who has asserted himself as truly elite

781
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: in a division, if he beats Cody Garbrandt, now you

782
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: got to ask where does Cody go from here? You

783
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: could stay at flyweight and work on your game and

784
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 3: maybe get back into a better spot. But you see

785
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying here, You're closing off a couple of

786
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: avenues because the UFC is not giving him light matchmaking whatsoever.

787
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: These are very tough fights he's in. That means there's

788
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: big stakes too. I'm a little bit worried about that

789
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: for him.

790
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: Look, I don't want to say job security. Cody garbrand

791
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: still has a big name. He's still only thirty years old.

792
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: Despite having lost three or four but all to elite competition.

793
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 4: Let's not miss that. But I mean, some losses seem

794
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: to permanently send you in another direction. If he loses here, Luke,

795
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 4: are you like I mean, is he sliding down that

796
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: hill fast? In your eyes? Is this winner go home?

797
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 4: In terms of him ever reclaiming the glamour that he

798
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: was when he beat Tom Cruise soundly over five rounds

799
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 4: just a few years ago.

800
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: So he currently sits at Cody Garbrandt is thirty years

801
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 3: of age. I would be hesitant to say something like

802
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: I just said that.

803
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: I feel like I just said that out loud. You

804
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 4: know it's weird.

805
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: Well, I got the question, I missed that detail. I'm sorry.

806
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: I just wanted to double check. He turned thirty in July,

807
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: so he is thirty. I would be.

808
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: Hesitant to dismiss someone that young. But again, dud would

809
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: those like, Here's what I would say, Here's what I

810
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: would say. If he loses to Kay Car of France,

811
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 3: you definitely have to hit the pause button on any

812
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: kind of championship immediate future at Flyway like.

813
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: That is very much out of the picture.

814
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: However, however, depending how he wants to take it. To

815
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: write off a thirty year old who admittedly has had

816
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 3: some difficulty, some real documented difficulty.

817
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: Both inside the cage and out.

818
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: I think it'd just be foolish to write that guy

819
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: off as like, oh, he can't ever become anything.

820
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: If he was thirty three, thirty four, well then I.

821
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 3: Would definitely feel a little bit differently, But at thirty

822
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm a little hesitant to say that. However,

823
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: be see I would argue for kay car Franz, as

824
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: you know, a CKB guy, this would.

825
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: Be a pretty important fixture. If you look at his losses.

826
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: He has lost to Moreno, who's the champion, that's you know,

827
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: his decision loss. That's no big, no big shame. And

828
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: then to Brandon Reyville, who he had rocked in that fight.

829
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: He got five the night honors. He's beat Hoi, Jerio Bontarine,

830
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 3: he has beat Tyson Nam, he's beaten Holly and Paiva,

831
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: and he's beaten Mark de la Rosso those are and

832
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: also Elios Garcia. He's beaten some decent two good names,

833
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: but not a great name.

834
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: You would agree.

835
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: If he beats Cody, although something an unknown at flyweight,

836
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: given everything he's been up against, that would reckon, That

837
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: would that would easily be certainly the biggest name he's

838
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 3: beaten and perhaps the most validating win of his MMA career, no.

839
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: Doubt, and he needs a win this big two to validate,

840
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: you know, the talent he's shown in certain spots. You know,

841
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: it hasn't been as consistent as as some of the

842
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: big moments have have teased. But this is a big

843
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: fight for him. This is a you know, not a

844
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: make or break in the future of his career on

845
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: the same level as gar Brandt, but this is one

846
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 4: of those turning point moments for for kai Kara France

847
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: to uh you know, I mean, Luke, there's a certain

848
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 4: reputation that CKB has at the moment, right.

849
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: What do you mean, like a good one, a great one.

850
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 4: We are smarter than the rest, We are more dynamic,

851
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: we are you know what I mean, like we whatever?

852
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 4: And I know Dan Hooker's lost some big fights, but

853
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 4: he's swinging big for the fences. I know Brad Riddell

854
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: just lost a big, sort of close up one. But

855
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes you're fighting to remain u you know,

856
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: to keep that aura of that CKB be on you.

857
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: And maybe he's doing that a little bit or maybe

858
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: I'm just reaching, you know, for straws, Luke, which I've

859
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: I've done at times. You know, I just admiring Luke.

860
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: You know, in this hat, with this somewhat manly beard,

861
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: I do have you know Randy Couture Expendables Part one

862
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: vibe like a vibe going on?

863
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: Are you calling your beard manly? I would call it

864
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 3: somewhat pubescent?

865
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 4: I mean I do. Look maybe I need like a

866
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: gold tooth, but I am getting you know, you know,

867
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 4: middle aged coach, You're handsome. I think I think I'm fitting.

868
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 4: I think I'm I'm hitting my because my therapist tells

869
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 4: me I'm having an identity crisis, luc And since I'm

870
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 4: forty three, you know that could be a midlife crisis.

871
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: That could be another name for it. So, uh, you know,

872
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 4: I'm wondering, Luke, if I should just fully embrace this.

873
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: You know, what is your identity crisis?

874
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 4: I mean, you know you want you want me to

875
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 4: unpack this? Here, Luke, the people came for mma.

876
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe maybe I can't ask I can't ask questions

877
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: all of a sudden president, but.

878
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: Maybe under wheel of death terms or room service diaries,

879
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 4: we can hear Luke, all right, well I did. He

880
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: did pitch to the bosses couples therapy with you and

881
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: I and the cameras there. They turned it down.

882
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: Luke, Okay, that's probably a good idea. There are many

883
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: fights on this card you can pick. I just want

884
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: to pick one more BC that I would love to

885
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: have just a really brief discussion over, which is the

886
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: return of Josh Emmett against Dan Egay. Dude, this fight

887
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: is a fucking banger and it's not even on the

888
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 3: main card. Here's how I sized this one up. Tell

889
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: me if you agree. Dan Egay is a guy who

890
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: has improved dramatically and has had some good wins, but

891
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: I don't think has reached his full potential just yet.

892
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: Still a very young guy himself of memory service. I'll

893
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: double check that in just a second. But Josh Emmett,

894
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: to me is the is the contender that the division

895
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 3: forgot now for some good reason, because he's had some big,

896
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: punctuated wins, but after them has had some terrible injuries.

897
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: After the Jeremy Stevens loss, which he was winning that

898
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: fight until a terrible thing happened, he had all kinds

899
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: of devastating injury and then he had this amazing fight

900
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: against Shane Burgos, and then he had injuries I think

901
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: to his knees and all kinds of stuff. So he

902
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: has been out for these long stretches. But when you

903
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 3: watch that guy compete heavy handed, he had a he

904
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: had a motion faint based skill set before a lot

905
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: of guys came along.

906
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: Here. He has a very tough fight with Dan e Gay,

907
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: big stakes in this one. Do you agree with my setup?

908
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 3: It's Dangay who hasn't quite reached his potential versus the

909
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: contender the division forgot.

910
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 4: This is it's time. It's time for for for Emmett

911
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: at thirty five to make that run as a legitimate

912
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: title contender. And you know the injuries have slowed him down.

913
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 4: I mean, god, he broke did he break his face

914
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: that time? After that knockout Luke?

915
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: I mean you know he said he lost he lost

916
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: taste in uh excuse me, and feeling and all of

917
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: it hasn't returned in half of his gums.

918
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: Uh. It's devastating nerve damage down there.

919
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 4: I don't want anyone to forget the effort that both

920
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 4: he and Burgos put in in their lat in Emmett's

921
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: last fight. I mean that was a a turning point.

922
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 4: We tak a turning point fights in someone's career arc.

923
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: That was a turning point fight for Emmett. He dug in,

924
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 4: he got the win. Now, after the long layoff because

925
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: of the injury, it's time to capitalize on that. So

926
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 4: I agree that the storyline wise, for whatever, this overall

927
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: card lax in star power. You know, there's there's Pourrier,

928
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 4: there's Amanda. It's a wet dream for hardcore fans. In fights,

929
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 4: we want to see names, we want to see storylines.

930
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 4: This is one of the biggest ones because featherweight's hot

931
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 4: as shit right now. Emmett is an interesting player. There's

932
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 4: so battle tested and tough, got the wrestling pedigree, but

933
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: can really throw those hands, really has some of the

934
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: best tattoos in all of MMA, which you know really

935
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 4: isn't saying much, but I'll shout him out just the same.

936
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, Luke, I think when you mentioned Danny Gay's

937
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 4: young enough, I don't think he's hit his his peak.

938
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: I disagree a little. I'm wondering more if he's already

939
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: ceiling out, meaning he's an aggressive, high volume guy, but

940
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 4: he fights a style fitting someone with more power. I

941
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 4: don't know if he has the finishing power to carry

942
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 4: out that type of style, and we've seen him now

943
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 4: be opportunistic, of course, but we've seen him level out

944
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: just a bit when he steps up, So Luke just

945
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: the same. This is a huge fight for him to

946
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 4: break that trend and show us that he's not going

947
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: to be a you know, a certain level gatekeeper for

948
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 4: the bigger names, that he can also crack that. So

949
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 4: this is one of the best fights on the card,

950
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: without question.

951
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it.

952
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: Last time, of course, that Josh Emma thought. As we

953
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: mentioned Shane Burgos, that was in June of twenty twenty,

954
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: seems like a lifetime ago. That was fight of the

955
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 3: night dan ega coming off the loss to Chan Sung

956
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: Jung just from June. Dan Egay just turned thirty years

957
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: of age in August, so a very young guy as well.

958
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: That's why I'm a little bit like thirty versus thirty five.

959
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: It's a little premature to put the ceiling.

960
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see, maybe it's not, but it feels

961
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: a little premature to put the ceiling on Danny Gay.

962
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: But you're right, might you could be right.

963
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: Who knows, We'll see and quickly, Luke, it's buried on

964
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 4: this prelim card and buried in the storylines. But Ty

965
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 4: tuoy Vasa has a pretty big fight here when you

966
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: consider he's won three in a row after losing three

967
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 4: in a row before that, and yeah, it beat Greg Hardy.

968
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 4: You can only put so much you know stuff and

969
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 4: what that meant. But he's got a you know, a

970
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 4: tough out in Augusto Sakai. Not a guy that I

971
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: ever see being a legitimate and tender, but a guy

972
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: you have to beat to prove that you're legit. And

973
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 4: I think for the first time in Ty tooy Vas's career.

974
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: Although he's still willing to drink alcohol out of people's

975
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 4: used footwear like we were to be fair at our

976
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 4: live show, I think he's in better shape than he's

977
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: been in his career. I think he's taking the craft

978
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 4: more seriously. The odds are close, Luke, because Ty's still

979
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 4: a bit of an all or nothing brawler. But if

980
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: he can keep working on his ground game and keep

981
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 4: staying in shape, I think that's the key for toy Vasa.

982
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 4: If he can stay in top level shape and really

983
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: go after it. Look with that kind of power and

984
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 4: that kind of balls, you're a player in this division,

985
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 4: and he's got He's a fan favorite for good reasons.

986
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 4: He's gonna be a marketable guy. These are the type

987
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 4: of fights you have to survive in advance. So I

988
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: want to see what he has because I don't think

989
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 4: Sakai is a world beater. But if you're not ready,

990
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 4: he'll beat you. There's no doubt.

991
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 3: And I can keep going on and on on this card.

992
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: Ryan Hal's on the card, Matt Snow versus Alex Perez

993
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: is on the car. I'm in the Cruz Pedro Munos

994
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: is on the card. It goes on and on. We'll

995
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: have some more about that as we get closer to

996
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 3: the fight on Thursday or Friday Friday. I suppose, all right, BC,

997
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: here is a fight topic number three. That is, I

998
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 3: can't believe the little amount of attention that this is getting,

999
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: But here we are.

1000
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: Vasili Lomachenko is back.

1001
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 3: Surprisingly, that win he had over Na Katani was kind

1002
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: of quiet in terms of the impact it had. But

1003
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: if you lose to Lopez and you beat Nakatani and

1004
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: then you follow it up with beating Richard Komi, who

1005
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: he fights on Saturday. Well, we have to revisit the

1006
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 3: conversation about his decline as well. But see, here's my

1007
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 3: first question to you. We'll talk about the Shakur Stevenson

1008
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: Angele in just a second, But why has the buzz

1009
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 3: around Lomachenko before the Lopez fight? They couldn't heap enough

1010
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: praise on this guy. Afterward it is very quiet.

1011
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 4: Well, I think Lopez took that buzz from him, and

1012
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 4: rightfully so. And Lopez was the shiny product, the twenty

1013
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: or twenty three year old at the time, you know,

1014
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: I beating big time trash talker. He adapulted into the

1015
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 4: pound for pound top ten and then in the minds

1016
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 4: of a lot of crossover fans, even with going in

1017
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 4: there calling his shot and out pointing Lomachenka. Now, in hindsight,

1018
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: certainly Lomachenko started late. He had figured out Tao to

1019
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: a degree, but as you always rightfully point out, when

1020
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: the chips were, you know, on the line in round twelve,

1021
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 4: Tao put the exclamation point on there. So Lomachenko, to

1022
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 4: his credit, took the l after some initial hold on.

1023
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: He was a little bit shitty at.

1024
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 4: First, he was real shitty at first, he blamed people,

1025
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: he whatever. Eventually he took the l and he does

1026
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 4: have history doing that. Let's not forget he lost to

1027
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 4: Orlando Soliito in his second pro fight, trying to win

1028
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: a title, and I thought he got a raw deal

1029
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 4: in the scorecards from the referee and from Salito. Thrown

1030
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: to his balls all night. But my point is this,

1031
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 4: Lomachenko went back to the drawing board and he beat

1032
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: the bags off Knakatani a tough out. This on paper,

1033
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: This fight on Saturday against always dangerous Richard Komi made

1034
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: a sum you know, feel like it's it's once again

1035
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 4: him moving the chains and he's favored to win. He

1036
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 4: should win. But I don't want to discount Colly because

1037
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 4: he's a puncher, he's aggressive, he's from Ghana, and boy

1038
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: do they go after it. But this fight means more

1039
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 4: now from what just happened in the last two weeks,

1040
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 4: there's no question about it. The lightweight division is on fire.

1041
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: George Cambosos has brought some connectivity to it all. You know,

1042
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: you had everybody on their own separate island, not willing

1043
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 4: to fight each other. Even Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney,

1044
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 4: who have different promoters but both fight on his own

1045
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 4: and have that amateur history of having fought each other

1046
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 4: six times. They weren't going out of their way to

1047
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 4: fight each other now because Camboso's you know, flip the

1048
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 4: apple cart upside down, defeated Tao Fema Lopez. He he's

1049
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 4: the power player at the moment. We're gonna see crossover

1050
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: type fights because he's a broadcast free agent. And then

1051
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 4: we get Jervonte Davis edging Esac Cruz in a big fight.

1052
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 4: So it's hot right now. Ryan Garcia's recovered from his

1053
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: mental health setback. He wants a big fight. This is

1054
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: gonna be interesting to see what happens if Wilmachanko can

1055
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 4: get past Coomy. We're gonna talk in a second about

1056
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 4: the rumored fight the baron wants to make. But Lomachenko

1057
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: luke in his GETT closer to the mid thirties. But

1058
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 4: you know, I never took him out of the top

1059
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 4: ten pound for pound with that loss. In fact, I never,

1060
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 4: somewhat controversially, I still had him ranked ahead of Taeo

1061
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 4: Femo even though he lost, because you look at the

1062
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 4: overall resume for sure, but also let's not forget Lomachenko's

1063
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: fighting over his head to a degree. At one thirty five,

1064
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 4: he's much more naturally a one hundred and twenty six pounder,

1065
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 4: but he had to leave that division because nobody would

1066
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: fight him. He eventually left one thirty because nobody would

1067
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 4: fight him. I think he can go down to either

1068
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: division right now and be the number one fighter in

1069
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 4: the game. So that's why to me, he's still top

1070
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 4: ten pound for pound despite losing that close decision to Tao.

1071
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 4: But Luke, he's still world class, and I think the

1072
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 4: Lomachenko fights are gonna get more fun from here on now.

1073
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 4: They've always been fun, but when his speed and reflexes

1074
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 4: continue to slow just a little bit, he's gonna have

1075
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 4: to fight more and we're gonna see some big fights

1076
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: from this. So this is not worth sleeping on Saturday

1077
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 4: night despite UFC two sixty nine happening, because Richard may

1078
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 4: may have lost by knockout to Tao Femo in round two,

1079
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: which was a breakthrough moment for Lopez, but that was

1080
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 4: his only loss in a big stretch for a while. Luke,

1081
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: and his last fight he went in there against Jackson Marinez,

1082
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 4: who we both thought straight up beat Roly Romero and

1083
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 4: should have won that secondary belt, and Richard Comy knocked

1084
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 4: him out in round six. So Comy is aggressive, he's

1085
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: a real player. He's got a nice knockout win of

1086
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 4: Ray Beltrand, who was a former champion a couple of

1087
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 4: fights ago. He's gonna be coming guns blazing. He's that

1088
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 4: perfect type of action style to watch the wizard like

1089
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: Wolmachenko have to deal with. But Luke, in terms of

1090
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 4: where Lomachenko goes next, that's where it's gonna get really fun.

1091
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie to you this new news that's

1092
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 4: broken out. I am fired the hell up for it.

1093
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: Well, let's see the tweet. If we got a tweet

1094
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: here from Shaker.

1095
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: Stevenson responding to a tweet or responding to a comment

1096
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 3: from Bobby.

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00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: Bob Aram of Top Rank came out publicly and said, look,

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00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: if Loma wins, I want him against shaquursee Stevenson next. Now,

1099
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 4: Stevenson fights at one thirty. He's a two division champion.

1100
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: He just had his own breakout win over you know,

1101
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: the Jamuelle Herring. And here's the quote from Bob, this

1102
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 4: is a great fight, a pay per view level fight.

1103
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: It can happen at one thirty or one thirty five,

1104
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 4: which is true, and that's a good part, or even

1105
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 4: at a catchwaight without the titles. This fight doesn't need

1106
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 4: any titles. It's so good. End quote. The fact that

1107
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 4: Shaquerse Stevenson quote tweeted that with let's do it, Luke.

1108
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 4: This is one of those sort of like crossroad fights,

1109
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: the old pow for bound Guard hanging on and still great.

1110
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 4: And Shaquurse Stevenson, who both Terrence Crawford and myself have

1111
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: gone on record saying will one day be pow for

1112
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 4: pound number one in this entire sport. He's a left

1113
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 4: handed pretty boy, Floyd. I'm telling you, guys, do not

1114
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 4: miss out on what Shaquie Stevenson is if he gets

1115
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: a chance to prove that against a wizard like Loman Chick.

1116
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 4: These are the type of fights that gets BCI taking

1117
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: his shirt off, running around naked like like Will Ferrell

1118
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 4: and old school Luke. Just because I need to bro

1119
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: all right, I mean, Louke, tell me get out of

1120
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: your grizzledness and tell me that you'd be feeling it

1121
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 4: for that fight.

1122
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: I'd be feeling for that one, and you may have

1123
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 3: said it. If I missed it, I apologize. But what

1124
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: should be worth reiterating if you already said it. Shaquer

1125
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 3: Stevenson and Lomachenko. They are both signed to Bob Aram's

1126
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 3: top rank. That doesn't mean the fight is automatic, but

1127
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 3: it should be understood here we're not talking about how

1128
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: do we figure out to get a guy who is

1129
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: on designed to fight on ESPN, or how do we

1130
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: get one of the PBC guys to do a deal

1131
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: with top rank. Both guys would be under the same place,

1132
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: both from a television broadcaster and promoter, which you would

1133
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 3: think in theory, in theory would make the fight a

1134
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: lot easier to come by. It gives me some hope

1135
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 3: actually that that could happen. I do expect lomachenk go

1136
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: to win. I don't know exactly how good he's gonna look,

1137
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 3: but I do expect him to win. And I do

1138
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 3: expect that that fight will a Shaque Stevenson fight.

1139
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: If they make it, it would be special. It would

1140
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: be super super special.

1141
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 4: And again what Bob said is true. You could do

1142
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 4: it at one thirty for Shakur's title because Limonchanko can

1143
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 4: make that way, you can do it at one thirty

1144
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 4: five whatever. But still this is about the lightweight division.

1145
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 4: So let's say George Camboso's and Devin Haney do an

1146
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 4: undisputed fight early next year in Australia, which they should,

1147
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 4: and let's say this fight happens. If Lomachenko wins, he

1148
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 4: takes on Shaquer Stevenson. Where do you think tankos and

1149
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 4: where do you think Ryan Garcia goes? Because I'm one

1150
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 4: of these people who are saying, let's do it against

1151
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: one another, and we might as well bring this up now, Luke,

1152
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: it was something I had thrown into potentially nods and

1153
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 4: ends topic. But you know, PBC, Leonard ller B, Floyd Mayweather,

1154
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: they did come out against, specifically Dan Rayfield on Twitter,

1155
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 4: who was saying I don't think PBC's gonna put Tank

1156
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 4: in with anybody saying, look, we tried to make the

1157
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 4: Ryan Garcia fight, you know, earlier this year. But what

1158
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: happened was Ryan Garcia thought he could get an exhibition

1159
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: with Manny Pacio, so they pushed it off. That potential idea.

1160
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 4: Both Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia been talking about each

1161
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 4: other on Twitter and I don't.

1162
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't do you baul it?

1163
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 3: Just do you buy that that bullshit? Do you buy

1164
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 3: that Tank Davis and his team are make active overtures

1165
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: to fight Ryan Garcia. No no versa because I don't

1166
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: buy that shit at all.

1167
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: No. I think I'll believe that they tried it back

1168
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 4: then because look, earlier this year, Ryan Garcia had that

1169
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 4: breakthrough win over Luke Campbell, but he got knocked down

1170
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 4: in the process, so he looked vulnerable. I'm sure they

1171
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: wanted to make it then, but look, they're also not

1172
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 4: gonna bend financially. Let's be fair here. You know, Team

1173
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 4: Mayweather's not gonna bend for anybody financially. So there's one

1174
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: thing in saying are you interested? And there's another thing

1175
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 4: in saying, you know, are we gonna make the pay

1176
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: equal here? So they got to work that out the

1177
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 4: negotiation table. But just because Ryan Garcia in that moment

1178
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 4: thought he could get Pacio instead, you know, it doesn't

1179
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: mean he's running from it. So I would love Luke

1180
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: For all those other matchups we mentioned, the two biggest

1181
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 4: names left, you know, outside of too Femo, are those

1182
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 4: two Ryan Garcia and Dravante. Good God, would that be

1183
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 4: a great fight, Luke. I mean, did you see the

1184
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 4: back and forth from them? Does it movie at all?

1185
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1186
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean the answer I'm I'm I'm just always

1187
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 3: a little bit more skeptical about those fights being made.

1188
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: But it does move me like it does interest me.

1189
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 3: I am excited to see. I'm just skeptical. Let's just

1190
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: leave it at that, dude, And that skepticism kind of

1191
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: hinders my overall enthusiasm, not for what would happen if

1192
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: they actually made it, but that they will actually make it.

1193
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: Well.

1194
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 4: Jervonte Davis just yesterday gave up the secondary one hundred

1195
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 4: and forty pound title that he won for Mario Barrios

1196
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 4: earlier this year, so he's it looks like he's gonna

1197
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 4: stay at one thirty five for the moment. This is

1198
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 4: a Ryan Garcia on Twitter after the Tank fight. He said, quote,

1199
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 4: we all know Luke Campbell is better than all of

1200
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 4: Tank's opposition. Tank can't beat me, he knows that, and

1201
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 4: Mayweather knows that I'm too fast and I have too

1202
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 4: much accuracy. Come on, Mayweather, you can't protect him forever.

1203
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 4: Tank responded and said, ray guy is an Instagram fighter.

1204
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 4: We don't worry about him. He's a YouTuber. He's a

1205
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 4: pretty girl. That's what he is. Just talk Luke. Some

1206
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 4: people look at that matchup and say, oh my god,

1207
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 4: Ryan Garcia, who doesn't move his head enough, is gonna

1208
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 4: get flat lined and it will ruin his career. But

1209
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 4: you know how fast he is, how his combinations are whole,

1210
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 4: Love him or hate him, Ryan Garcia goes after the KO.

1211
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 4: Do you see that as spectacularly a competitive fight as

1212
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 4: I do?

1213
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I do. I still think Tank would beat him,

1214
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: but I do agree that it's.

1215
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: Not just hand speed, it's he has the ability to

1216
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 3: find very tiny windows of opportunity and to reach them quickly.

1217
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 3: You don't have to you can move your hand from

1218
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: here to here, and just that extra space. If that's

1219
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 3: what he's looking for, he can find it instantaneously. He

1220
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: is defensively vulnerable, and for the dominant puncher in that weight.

1221
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: Class, if that's who he was up against, you would

1222
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 2: have to be.

1223
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 3: Very worried about Ryan Garcia's chances of the course of

1224
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: twelve rounds to survive. But I would also agree that

1225
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 3: a guy like Tank, although I think he's shown a

1226
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 3: pretty good chin honestly against some pretty big punchers recently.

1227
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 2: Still, you know, this is.

1228
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 3: Why we need this fight to happen, is to resolve

1229
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 3: how we think that these two conflicting powers would eventually

1230
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: match up. There's no denying that the fight would be

1231
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 3: incredibly intriguing and it'd be fun to see some nice

1232
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 3: fighters in their twenties like we just saw against Stephen

1233
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: Fulton and Brandon Figueroa at a pay per view level.

1234
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: Go and pursue that it's just you know, is that

1235
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: in the cards.

1236
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think that it is. Right now,

1237
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 2: that's all all right.

1238
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: Topic number four we stick with Boxing BC. This is

1239
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 3: gonna be one We're gonna have to heavily lean on

1240
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: you for some analysis here. So what has happened is

1241
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 3: there's actually gonna be three classes into the International Boxing

1242
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame that are going to be inducted in

1243
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: June twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, and then twenty twenty one.

1244
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: I guess COVID and some other things pushed it all back.

1245
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: Entering this Hall of Fame class will be Miguel Coto,

1246
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 3: Roy Jones, Junior, James Tony and Holly Holm from Previous

1247
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: ones include Hopkins, Shane Moseley, and One Man World Marquez.

1248
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 3: Now BC, I don't think anyone's got any issues with

1249
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 3: Codo going in, and Roy Jones Junior going in, and

1250
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 3: James Tony going in, and even Holly Holm, who did

1251
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: a lot in boxing and has a tremendous career as

1252
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 3: a combat athlete. Overall, I don't think any of those

1253
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: are very controversial. But Carl Fratch got snubbed. Tell me

1254
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: why he got snubbed and what the why? Why is

1255
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: that so controversial?

1256
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 4: Now? Look the way the rules work. They break it

1257
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 4: down into different categories, and in the modern category, I

1258
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 4: believe only three guys can get in, if I'm not incorrect,

1259
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 4: So somebody had to miss out James Tony or you know,

1260
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 4: didn't get in on the first ballot. And let's be fair.

1261
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 4: James Tony at the second half of his career, even

1262
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 4: though he was incredible moving up in wait, he also

1263
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 4: lost the heavyweight title that he won because of steroids,

1264
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 4: and you know he hung on way too long. But

1265
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 4: nobody's here to dispute whether James Tony is Hall worthy.

1266
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 4: Sometimes it just comes down to timing and whether you

1267
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 4: get in on the first vote the Cobra. Carl Fratch

1268
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 4: unfortunately did not get in. And if there's a snub

1269
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 4: to be debated, it's that Luke I've been a protector

1270
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 4: in you know, in hitting the ones and twos on

1271
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 4: Fratch's worthiness of this type of you know, first ballot

1272
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 4: recognition from from a long time back, saying, you know,

1273
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 4: if you really break it down, he may have a

1274
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 4: better legacy than some of his UK contemporaries like a

1275
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 4: you know, Joe Kalzagi or even a Ricky Hatten because

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Speaker 4: he always fought the best, he always brought it and

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Speaker 4: that prime stretch of his career was just incredible. There

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Speaker 4: was a great tweet from a guy love a lot

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Speaker 4: top ranks pr guy Evan Korn, the ginger, Yes, Evan Korn,

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Speaker 4: and he said this quote. In a twelve fight span.

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Speaker 4: Carl Frotch had one tune up and went nine and

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Speaker 4: two overall, with wins against Jermaine Taylor, Gene Pascal, twice

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Speaker 4: over Michel Kessler, twice over George Groves, including one time

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Speaker 4: famously in front of eighty thousand people at Wembley Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Lost a split decision to Andre Ward in the finals

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Speaker 4: of the Super six, beat Glenn Johnson, beat Andre Darrell,

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Speaker 4: beat Lucian Butte, and beat Arthur Abraham. All of those

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Speaker 4: are former champions. As Evan said to close the tweet,

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Speaker 4: that's a Hall of Fame run by any measure. Carl

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Speaker 4: Fratz will get in eventually, but obviously sometimes there's a

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Speaker 4: bit of luster in getting in on your first try.

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Speaker 4: No one's gonna debate Roy Jones, but even Miguel Codo

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Speaker 4: Carl Frotch is of that ilk.

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Speaker 3: If you ask me, Luke, you said he had a

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Speaker 3: better You think Froch has a better resume than Klzagi.

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Speaker 4: I do, and I dude, nobody, even.

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Speaker 2: Though Kazagi was undefeated.

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Speaker 4: Nobody loves Joe Calzagi more than me. Let me say

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Speaker 4: that first and foremost, nobody. I think Joe Kolzagi had

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Speaker 4: a prayer in hell of beating Jeff Lacy the way

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Speaker 4: he did, and he slapped him around for twelve rounds.

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Speaker 4: But Joe Kalzagi waited until the twilight of his career

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Speaker 4: to come to the US, Luke. And it's not that

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Speaker 4: he beat nobody's before that. I mean Chris Ubank for

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Speaker 4: the title. He beat Michael Kessler in one of the

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Speaker 4: you know, Europe's biggest fights of all time. I freaking

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Speaker 4: love that fight from two thousand and seven. But Luke,

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Speaker 4: you know, you gotta come to the States and did

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Speaker 4: it all the big Nate Lennox Lewis did it. You

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Speaker 4: gotta come to Vegas and fight the best. He waited

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Speaker 4: until the end of his career. He beat a you know,

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Speaker 4: pat well past his prime, Roy Jones in Madison Square

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Speaker 4: Garden and got knocked down in the first round. And

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Speaker 4: he beat Bernard Hopkins in a very close, debatable fight. Luke,

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Speaker 4: I love that he retired on his own terms at

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Speaker 4: forty six. And oh but I don't believe Joe Kalzagi

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Speaker 4: historically took on the level of competition that was commensurate

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Speaker 4: with his ability.

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Speaker 3: Also, he had a Peter Manfredo went in there. Manfredo

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Speaker 3: correct me from wrong.

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Speaker 2: We see.

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Speaker 3: That was the winner, one of the winners, along with

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Speaker 3: Sergio Mora of the Contender of the Boxing Series.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Manfredo in the finals.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and Manfredo not that great.

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Speaker 4: No, that was a money that was a money cash in.

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Speaker 4: But you know, Codo, I mean, you know you're not

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Speaker 4: gonna you know, it's hard to rip apart what Codo did,

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Speaker 4: and especially Coto.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he fought win or lose, dude, and most

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Speaker 3: of the time it was winning. Do he fought absolute

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Speaker 3: murderers for years.

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Speaker 4: You know? In him moving up to middleway at the

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Speaker 4: end of his career, even though he did have a

1335
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Speaker 4: catchway and even though he beat a hobbledt Sergio Martinez,

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Speaker 4: that's hard to shake but Fracogatin eventually. But Luke, I

1337
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Speaker 4: think the real storyline here, particularly toward our MMA fan base,

1338
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Speaker 4: is it's not that we didn't I think this was

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Speaker 4: possible for Holly Holm. But when you're really take into

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Speaker 4: totality what she's accomplished. Former UFC champion, still very high

1341
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 4: in the rankings at age forty, still has title aspirations

1342
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 4: and oh, by the way, won seventeen different titles or

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Speaker 4: whatever women's boxing and is now an International Boxing Hall

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Speaker 4: of Famer. Does she get overall? Do you think the

1345
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 4: respect for what she's accomplished when you look at all

1346
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 4: time great combat sports athletes or is it or can

1347
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 4: it be easy to overrate to a degree what she's accomplished.

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Speaker 2: See that's the part I can't quite figure out.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know enough about women's boxing to make

1350
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: an educated opinion here. I want the audience to be

1351
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 3: very understanding that I am declaring to you my weaknesses

1352
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 3: in terms of understanding this topic to give a broader conversation.

1353
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 3: But I have been thinking about something BC, which is

1354
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 3: I'm not in any way suggesting she's not deserving of

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01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 3: these accolades and the fact that she has a now

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Speaker 3: a place in the International Boxing Hall of Fame. Plus

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01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: she was that MutS say pioneer in women's MMA, but

1358
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 3: part of the generation that really helped women's MMA blossom,

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Speaker 3: and of course became a weight class champion in the UFC.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is incredibly special stuff. She is an

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Speaker 3: incredibly special combat athlete. But here's what I'm wondering, where

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Speaker 3: would we put what she's done as a combat athlete

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Speaker 3: next to, say, someone like Sahudo. Sahudo won an Olympic

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Speaker 3: gold medal. Now, after that he fizzled out of wrestling.

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01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: He couldn't even make the team. I think in subsequent

1366
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 3: trials that he tried, but in that moment in time,

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01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 3: he won the Olympic gold medal, and then he was

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Speaker 3: a two weight world champion at the same time. As

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Speaker 3: a matter of fact, or whatever was he gave up

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Speaker 3: when I got the other one. I can't remember anymore.

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Speaker 3: But you get the idea. Do you rank suhudo winning

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Speaker 3: an Olympic gold medal and capturing weight class titles in

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Speaker 3: the UFC as greater than, equal to, or less than

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Speaker 3: what Holly Holm did.

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Speaker 4: It's hard, man, dude. It's hard because you know the

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Speaker 4: era of that Holly Holme, you know, did big things

1377
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Speaker 4: in women's boy. I mean, that was a dead air.

1378
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 4: I mean it's still despite having names. Finally, to be fair,

1379
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 4: it's still kind of dead. And that's not a shot.

1380
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 4: But look at Luke. Why are there so many undisputed

1381
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 4: and unified champions in women's boxing Because there's only so

1382
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 4: many world class opponents out there per weight class. It's

1383
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 4: why Amanda Serrano has had to move around to eight

1384
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 4: different weight classes. It's why sometimes all these vacant titles

1385
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 4: get get thrown in and we keep seeing all these

1386
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 4: bite these fights for four belts. There just isn't a

1387
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Speaker 4: level of competition across the board. That takes nothing away

1388
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 4: from Holly Holmes's deservedness of being in the International Boxing

1389
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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame and By the way, I think it's

1390
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Speaker 4: great that they're finally, you know, a couple of years

1391
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Speaker 4: in now welcoming women to the hall, but it is hard.

1392
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Speaker 4: I think the greatest accomplishment was the speed in which

1393
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 4: she crossed over to MMA. Now she did have the

1394
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 4: kickboxing background that we know about, but her ability to

1395
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 4: go in right away fight at the top level competition

1396
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 4: and then score such a resounding upset that you know

1397
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 4: she's still in some ways living off of. And it's

1398
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 4: not to mean that she hasn't won a big fight

1399
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 4: since then, Luke, but she's lost a lot of big

1400
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 4: fights since then, and I think the credit is her

1401
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 4: longevity and her ability to keep bouncing back from those

1402
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 4: and get better and come back. But some of it,

1403
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 4: Luke looks better than maybe it is. Right Is that fair?

1404
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 4: I mean? I hate being the curmudgeon today. Right?

1405
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 2: Well? I mean, if I had to ask you what

1406
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: her best non UFC win is, you know, what would

1407
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: you say? It's not so easy to answer no.

1408
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 3: In fairness, if I had to ask folks who did

1409
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 3: Henry Shudo defeat to win.

1410
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: A gold medal, they wouldn't know that either. I don't believe.

1411
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 4: Why how about I just ask you this, what's her

1412
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 4: best non Rowsy win? Luke, Is there something that jumps.

1413
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 2: Out at you her best non Rowsy win? I mean

1414
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: it is?

1415
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 4: Is it Megan Anderson who's not even there anymore?

1416
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: Is it? Megson? Is a good one? You could say,

1417
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 2: betch Kohea for the nature of the knockout itself.

1418
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but you know, Bet was washed and I

1419
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 4: love her.

1420
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: But she was.

1421
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 3: She beat al Donna in her last fight. That's a

1422
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 3: good win too. Arakel Pennington to she beat Rakel penningson twice.

1423
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. That's pretty good. But here's my point.

1424
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 3: I just think with these two it's just very difficult

1425
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 3: to make comparisons. What I would say is if you

1426
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 3: look at Holly's record she has obviously now she's gonna

1427
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 3: be International Boxing Hall of Fame. She finished boxing with

1428
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 3: a thirty three to two and three record. It's pretty

1429
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 3: fucking good. She's obviously got a weight class champion at

1430
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: one point in UFC. She also had some kickboxing experience.

1431
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 3: It's hard to compare prize fighting based on striking with

1432
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: Olympic cycle grappling competitions. It's just they're just really kind

1433
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 3: of different. Like one moment in time. How does that

1434
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: compare to nearly forty fights in boxing. It's it's hard

1435
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 3: to know what to do with that. Well, what I

1436
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 3: will say is, as it relates to the striking oriented

1437
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 3: side of things, Holly Holm might be your best overall

1438
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 3: combat athlete and women's side of things. Ever, right, yeah,

1439
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 3: think about that for a second. Who would you rank

1440
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 3: is a overall body of work in multiple disciplines.

1441
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: You do have.

1442
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 3: You do have the Iron Lady Jermaine Random me who

1443
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 3: was incredible in kickboxing and.

1444
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 2: MMA, But I don't know if she has a of

1445
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: boxing experience. So, like you get what I'm saying here.

1446
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: If she's not the best on the striking oriented side

1447
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: of combat sports of the women's game, she's what two

1448
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 3: or three at worst, I mean, very accomplished.

1449
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 4: There's some elements to her legacy that are just impeccable,

1450
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 4: and that the crossing over of disciplines is the long. Look,

1451
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 4: the longevity's crazy. Seriously, she's forty and still title ready.

1452
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's not out of the question whether

1453
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 4: it could happen if Amanda retired or gave up one

1454
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 4: of the belts or whatever, or maybe beating him It's

1455
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 4: not out of the question that Holly doesn't win another

1456
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 4: UFC title.

1457
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Speaker 3: Right, absolutely not out of the well, as long as

1458
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 3: Amanda's there, I don't know, but you're again, if Juliana.

1459
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Speaker 2: Pania wins this weekend, I think anything is possible.

1460
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Speaker 3: Right, all right, let's do some quick hitters here if

1461
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 3: we can, b C, and we'll wrap things up and

1462
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Speaker 3: we'll go to fan subs. Have Nimberga Meido Have announces

1463
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Speaker 3: Eagle FC debut in US for January twenty eighth. This

1464
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 3: will be in Miami, Florida. It will be headlined by

1465
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 3: Tyrone Spong taking on Bigfoot Silva. Rashad Evans is set

1466
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 3: to make a return it to a We do not

1467
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: have an opponent as at the time of this broadcast.

1468
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 3: Ray Borg will also be on there against Cody Gibson.

1469
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 3: A lot of dominance MMA fighters on there, which you

1470
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Speaker 3: would imagine.

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Speaker 2: But here's my thing.

1472
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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I'm not a fan of Rashad

1473
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 3: returning to competition, which I say totally out of love

1474
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 3: and respect for what an unbelievable career that he had.

1475
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 2: I want to be very clear.

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Speaker 3: About that, but I gotta say, dude, if Florida is

1477
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 3: going to give a license to Bigfoot Silva. And I

1478
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: mean this genuinely, who are they not going to give

1479
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 3: a license to? They gave one to Evander granted after

1480
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 3: the fact, it turns out it was an exhibition one,

1481
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 3: but they're given a full on pro license. It appears

1482
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 3: to Bigfoot Silva. If you are willing to give a

1483
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 3: pro license to him, who are you not willing to

1484
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 3: give it to? I honestly don't know how to answer that.

1485
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, God, I love Rashad, and I

1486
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 4: know he's in a, you know, physically an insane shape,

1487
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,879
Speaker 4: and he's certainly mentally and spiritually and all that emotionally

1488
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 4: in a better spot than he was during that whole

1489
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 4: losing streak shot out to the Ayahuasca King himself. But

1490
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 4: you know, it would it have been better for him

1491
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 4: to come chasing cash in some celebrity boxing match or

1492
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 4: to come back in this We don't know the level opponent.

1493
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 4: It's hard to speak of that, but Bigfoot Silva should

1494
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 4: not be in these fights. How many consecutive knockout losses

1495
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 4: over various combat disciplines does he have? It's criminal At

1496
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 4: this point, Luke, is there room for Habib's promotion in

1497
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 4: the US, Luke, I don't I don't you know take

1498
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 4: away from anybody with ambition trying to carve out their place,

1499
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 4: whether it to be a feeder organization or to be

1500
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 4: a legitimate contender. But you know you got UFC, Belator

1501
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 4: and and PF PFL in the States, You've got one

1502
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 4: still trying to make big news and get big investors.

1503
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 4: Is there room for Habib to make a splash because

1504
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 4: this card and the names on it is, I guess interesting,

1505
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 4: but it's certainly not musty TV.

1506
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 3: It's not musty TV. I will say, I wouldn't be

1507
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 3: too hesitating. I would I'd be a little bit cautious

1508
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 3: about dismissing what Eagle FC can do. A there's gonna

1509
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 3: be the association with dominance and a great granted, obviously

1510
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 3: the best dominance MMA fighters are gonna be in UFC,

1511
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 3: in beltoor and more established leagues. Let me turning this

1512
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 3: off for just a second, but what I would say

1513
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 3: is what I would say is you're gonna have a

1514
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 3: lot of guys who are in early stages of the

1515
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 3: career in the smesh factory that they might be able

1516
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 3: to get a hold of so you could have some

1517
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 3: interesting prospecting on there. Plus, they're gonna have names that

1518
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 3: are past prime, and in this particular case, I'm not

1519
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 3: thrilled about it with Rashad, but there might be some

1520
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 3: other ones where we're not nearly as hard up about it.

1521
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: Who could still have a place after having a big

1522
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 3: run UFC.

1523
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: You asked about Bigfoot. Here's his run.

1524
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 3: So you remember that run in twenty twelve and twenty

1525
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 3: thirteen when he tko Travis Brown, and then right after

1526
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 3: that he tko or kyot. I should say Alistair overim.

1527
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 3: Remember Herb Dean had to pull him off, and there's

1528
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 3: a famous photo of him screaming in Alistair's face. So

1529
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 3: since then, he got tko by Kane Velasquez, he had

1530
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 3: a majority draw overturned after he had elevated levels of

1531
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 3: testosterone against Mark Hunt. He got kaoed by Andrea Rolofsky,

1532
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 3: he got KOed by Frankmeir. He did beat soa palale.

1533
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,839
Speaker 3: That's his last win. That was August first of twenty fifteen.

1534
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 3: Subsequent to that, he got tko by Mark Hunt. He

1535
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,839
Speaker 3: got kaoed by Stephan Strub, he got KOed by Roy Nelson,

1536
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 3: he lost a decision to Ivan Shatirkov, he got kaoed

1537
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 3: by Vittali Minikov, and then he lost to someone who

1538
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 3: has no Wikipedia entry via TKO in the second round

1539
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: to Clinton Domingos. He also lost that as I mentioned ko.

1540
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 4: A twenty seventeen kickboxing loss to Verhouven and a twenty

1541
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 4: nineteen BKFC knockout loss to Gabriel Gonzaga. So you add

1542
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 4: all those knockouts during the same timeframe, that's what that's.

1543
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: So since twenty thirteen, so since the knockout loss to

1544
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 3: Kane Velaska as you had the two, the TKO loss

1545
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 3: to Verhehuven, Yeah, the KO loss in v.

1546
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 4: KO ten ko, since the Velaskas ten ko losses across

1547
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 4: various combat disciplines ten No.

1548
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 3: Twelve eleven excuse me eleven if you count all of them,

1549
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 3: eleven eleven. That doesn't include anything that happens in practice

1550
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 3: or anything else. Even should not he should not have

1551
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 3: a professional license in theseates of America.

1552
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 4: BJ's been knocked out less of the lava shack Luke.

1553
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 4: This is bad, bro. I mean, I know you need

1554
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 4: a name, and you need a and uh didn't Tyrone

1555
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 4: Spong just he was gonna fight Usik for at heavyweight.

1556
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 3: Yes, he was gonna fight. Then he he popped for something.

1557
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 3: I forget what it was, and so that fight fell through.

1558
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, all right.

1559
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,879
Speaker 3: Former NBA player Royce White, who by the way, messaged

1560
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 3: me during the pandemic we talked a little bit, is

1561
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 3: set to make his MMA debut against Da Kwan Buckley,

1562
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,839
Speaker 3: who's one in one, making his pro debut at LFA

1563
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 3: one twenty this Friday, that's tomorrow in Minnesota. It'll air

1564
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 3: on UFC Fight Pass. White, of course, is six foot

1565
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 3: eight thirty years of age. Was drafted in the first

1566
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 3: round of twenty twelve NBA Draft by the Rockets.

1567
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: He last played in the NBA in twenty fourteen with

1568
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: the Kings.

1569
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he messaged me during the pandemic talking about how

1570
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 3: ready he was to get out there.

1571
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 2: I take him word. I'm excited for his debut.

1572
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. I like these type of crossover opportunities when

1573
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 4: someone's taking it super serious and it's not just a

1574
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 4: cash and the guy he's fighting, as you mentioned, was

1575
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 4: one on one as an amateur making his pro debut.

1576
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 4: We'll see, Luke, We'll see. I mean, look, I think

1577
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 4: the one the biggest legacy Royce White had as an

1578
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 4: NBA player, Luke had more to do with you know,

1579
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 4: he was kind of a forerunner in mental health treatment

1580
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 4: and how he how he you know, sat out and

1581
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 4: called out the Houston Rockets for at that time their

1582
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 4: inability to have a foundation and infrastructure for that type

1583
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,480
Speaker 4: of not only treatment, but but you know, grace and understanding.

1584
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 4: So I give him a lot of credit for that. Luke.

1585
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 4: We'll see what he can do as a fighter. He's

1586
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 4: still young enough. You know, they say for six eight

1587
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 4: he stood, So we'll see Luke.

1588
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 3: Dude, if he's a heavyweight, which I'm assuming that he is.

1589
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 3: If he's thirty, he's young. That's not old for heavyweight

1590
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 3: at all. So we'll have to see how things go.

1591
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 3: Chail saunin the Gangster than the Westland Gangster is one

1592
01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 3: of the.

1593
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 2: Fuck he calls himself these days. Love jaill all right.

1594
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 3: He is gonna host Friday's thirteenth annual World MMA Awards

1595
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 3: from Las Vegas Fighters Only. CEO Rob Hewitt, by the way,

1596
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: told MMA Junkie no fans will be in attendance due

1597
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 3: to COVID COVID considerations but five hundred spectators connect to

1598
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 3: the event will be and it will be live shooting

1599
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 3: details maybe on ESPN plus. Good to see the Westland

1600
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 3: resident gangster hosting the awards.

1601
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: We see.

1602
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, look I'm looking this will be my first time

1603
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 4: attending that award. Look, as people know, we are up

1604
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 4: remember the albumal That's all I'm saying. We are up

1605
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 4: against some heavy hitters there. I'd love to be able

1606
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 4: to stand shoulder and shoulder with Joe Rogan. Genetics will

1607
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 4: prevent that, but you know, we'll see if we can

1608
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 4: go up against him. Arie l DC and the UFC shows.

1609
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 4: But at least they got chill Son, because isn't this

1610
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 4: like a D level celebrity event. I mean, I'm excited

1611
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 4: to see some washed up people there, but at least

1612
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 4: they got a real star and chill Son and tall Man.

1613
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, last time I was there, the last

1614
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 3: one I attended. Those not the last one, but the

1615
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 3: the first one I attended. I should say I was

1616
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 3: there and I took a selfie with jose canseeko.

1617
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 2: If that gives you, yeah.

1618
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 4: Shows up, that's what. That's the level of slop. Guys

1619
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 4: that were something back when you and I were young.

1620
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 4: That's who I want to see at this event.

1621
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 3: If you were a candidate for the mid nineties Fox Boxing.

1622
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 2: Show with Celebrities, Yes, I want to take a selfie.

1623
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 4: With you early two thousands. Yes, absolutely, I'm in on that.

1624
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 4: Hopefully we'll get some washed up rock stars, maybe like

1625
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 4: the lead singer of like A what's that Offspring? Or no,

1626
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 4: what's the other band? Luke? That's sang all Star?

1627
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: What's that BANDU? Smash Mouth?

1628
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll probably see like the basis for smash Mouth,

1629
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 4: you know, maybe the one arm drummer from def Leppard.

1630
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 4: I'll high five the shit out of that guy.

1631
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 2: Luke. I'm telling you, well, you try to do the

1632
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: two just because you're a dick.

1633
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 4: That's so rude. That's so unnecessarily rude. Yeah, all right.

1634
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 3: Amanda Hebos is set to face Michelle Waterson and UFC

1635
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 3: Fight Night. I'm not sure the number, but it will

1636
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 3: be on March twenty six p see hell of a

1637
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 3: fight in the women's division.

1638
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 4: Starwit's a gift that keeps on giving. He didn't Hebas

1639
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 4: just bounce back and Abdabi had a nice win coming

1640
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 4: off of that. Yeah, So do you think karate Hotty's got.

1641
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 3: Anything left, Luke, We're gonna find out with this one,

1642
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 3: because if she, if not that beating Heboss is some

1643
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 3: kind of easy thing. But if she just kind of

1644
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 3: gets bludgeoned, any kind of aspirations of climbing to a

1645
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 3: title position since the n J check fight would have

1646
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 3: been evaporated.

1647
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 4: At that, will will Amanda Hebos one day fight for

1648
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 4: a UFC title? Luke, that's the question I have for you.

1649
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 2: Yes, I do think she will.

1650
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,839
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Luke's favorite French strikers.

1651
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: What's written here?

1652
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 3: Men Off Fro, whose last fight was not so great,

1653
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 3: set to fight Jessica I on a different fight night,

1654
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 3: also in March.

1655
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: This one will be March fifth BC.

1656
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 3: I gotta say I had high expectations for f Ro

1657
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 3: and her UFC debut. Her last fight was good, not great.

1658
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 3: I don't mind the just guy fight. I think it's

1659
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 3: a good one.

1660
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 4: This is a good matchmaking because style wise, because of

1661
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 4: Eye's ability to wrestle, but also you gotta beat in

1662
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 4: the name like Jessica I to be taken seriously. So

1663
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 4: we'll see what's happened. I mean, here we go, evil,

1664
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 4: here we go?

1665
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: All right?

1666
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 3: U BC, you put this one in the rundown with

1667
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 3: this the world's dumbest grin, but we.

1668
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 2: Have to talk about it.

1669
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 3: The world's largest edible has been made last week by

1670
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 3: a team of five people. I believe we have a

1671
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 3: tweet for this, and took a full day to complete.

1672
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: The brownie tips.

1673
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 3: The scales at a whopping ready for this eight hundred

1674
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 3: and fifty pounds and contains twenty thousand milligrams of thhd BC.

1675
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 3: I want to put I want someone to pro wrestling

1676
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 3: slam my face into this thing and then just leave

1677
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 3: me there.

1678
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 4: Men each saying we need that for Tampa, for the

1679
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 4: Jake Paul week. Luke, I would love to dive right

1680
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:46,839
Speaker 4: into the set. We should know a room service diaries

1681
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 4: you and I how I mean, like, at what point

1682
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 4: do we pass out, Luke?

1683
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 2: Or do or take a little while? But we would

1684
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 2: We would get there.

1685
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 4: We would be the happy people.

1686
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to be buried in a coffin. I

1687
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 3: don't want to be creamy mat when it's all over,

1688
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 3: Just put my body in a giant coffin, Brownie of

1689
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 3: and let the marijuana take me to Jesus.

1690
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 4: Hey, he died doing what he loved Luke. It's a

1691
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 4: success story.

1692
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 3: If he asked me, you know what I mean, dude,

1693
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 3: I would I just I just like Luke, what do

1694
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 3: you want out of life?

1695
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: I want to quit my job and I just want

1696
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: to swim in that brownie for the rest of my life.

1697
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to do anything else.

1698
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 4: I mean, look, how happy that Baker is.

1699
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 2: Luke, wouldn't you be? You could steal like a swipe

1700
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: and get high, all right?

1701
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 3: SBG coach John Cavanaugh named his preferred opponents for Connor

1702
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: McGregor's return. He's leaning towards Tony Ferguson, but says Nate

1703
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,480
Speaker 3: dis trilogy is both tempting and quote gives me nightmares.

1704
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 3: Says Connor will return at one fifty five. He's coming

1705
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 3: back for that belt.

1706
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 4: I don't think he's come back at one fifty five. Bro.

1707
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 4: We saw Connor force UFC to give him that one

1708
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 4: seventy weight against cowboy. Whether it's Nate, whether it's Tony, which,

1709
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 4: by the way, the Tony five, it's just perfect. It'd

1710
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 4: be a perfect fight. Right now, I'm gonna go on

1711
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 4: the record tect guarantee both of either one will be

1712
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 4: at one seventy. I guarant freaking pee it all right.

1713
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 3: We already talked about the tank Davis Garcia one, so

1714
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 3: we'll make this the last one. Here we see Deontay

1715
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 3: Wilder at thirty six has mixed feelings quote unquote of

1716
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 3: every fightday again. Let me read this quote from Deontay Wilder.

1717
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 3: It's mixed feelings because ultimately I have accomplished all of

1718
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 3: my goals in this sport. I told my daughter when

1719
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 3: she was one that i'd be a champion and I'd

1720
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 3: be able to support her beyond belief. This was on

1721
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 3: Kevin Hart's Laugh Out Loud Network. I don't know if

1722
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 3: that's on serious exam or not, but quote, I've done

1723
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 3: the things I promised to my daughter. There's a lot

1724
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 3: of things that I've accomplished that I feel I don't

1725
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 3: have to prove anything to anyone because I've already proven it.

1726
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: Should I push forward? Should I give it a go

1727
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 2: one more time?

1728
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 3: Or should I just retire and focus on other things

1729
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,560
Speaker 3: that I already have other things that I want to

1730
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 3: get into BC. If someone is already talking like that,

1731
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 3: should they retire?

1732
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna actually retire, but I do

1733
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 4: think you should take time off because he put everything

1734
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 4: he had into that Fury trilogy and was willing, as

1735
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 4: he always says to you know, die in the ring,

1736
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 4: go out on the shield, and you know, they produced

1737
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 4: one of the best heavyweight title fights of all time.

1738
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 4: It was a joy to behold. But he did accomplish that,

1739
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 4: and he's not in the running right now for you know,

1740
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 4: unified or undisputed title considerations, even though his co advisor,

1741
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 4: manager Shelley Finkel, said in the same story on Boxing

1742
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 4: Scene that they expect him back this spring. I'm sure

1743
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 4: everybody wants to make money off of him. Heavyweight's age,

1744
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 4: you know, at a slower pace. We know that he's

1745
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 4: thirty six, but he's in great shape. He's a great athlete.

1746
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 4: He's always gonna have a puncher's chance against anybody. If

1747
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 4: i'm him, Luke, I just kind of go away for

1748
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 4: a while. I wait to see the lay of the

1749
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 4: land at heavyweight. I invest in my family, I invest

1750
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 4: in mental health and resting my body and all that.

1751
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 4: And you know, when the when the business clears, if

1752
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 4: it's Fury's still standing as champion, or Joshua or Uhsik

1753
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 4: or whomever, he'll be a very interesting guy, just like

1754
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 4: I think Vladimir Klitschko should he want to. In his

1755
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 4: early four he's still in great shape. Should he ever

1756
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 4: pick up the phone and say I want to come

1757
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 4: back for one more, you can make really fun fights

1758
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,839
Speaker 4: with Klisco against any of those names. I think Wilder

1759
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 4: is going to and should kind of enter into that

1760
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 4: role Luke, because there's not much to earn in going

1761
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 4: back beyond you know, millions right now, and he's just

1762
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 4: made a shit tourn in the last couple of years

1763
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 4: in doing that. I mean, Luke Fox is rolling out

1764
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 4: in absolutely disgraceful pay per view on January first, that

1765
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 4: has Andy Ruiz against former champion Prince Charles Martin in

1766
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 4: the main event. Now they're pricing it at thirty nine

1767
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 4: to ninety nine, and I'm sure they would have loved

1768
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 4: if that was Wilder versus Ruiz, which would have been

1769
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 4: a legitimate pay per view. But Charles Martin was only

1770
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 4: the heavyweight champion because he fought for a vacant belt

1771
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 4: against Zar Glaskov and Glasgow's leg fell apart in round

1772
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 4: one and he never fought again. I don't think he's

1773
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 4: walking again. And Martin became champion and then got knocked

1774
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 4: out by Anthony Joshua in his next fight to begin

1775
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 4: AJ's title Reignhight sucks. There's no reason really for Wilder

1776
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 4: and even come back against Ruiz unless he really needs

1777
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 4: the money. I mean, I would just sort of sit

1778
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 4: back and Luke. A year from now, two years from now,

1779
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 4: Wilder could command a hefty paycheck to fight whoever's the

1780
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 4: last guy standing.

1781
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 2: In four years.

1782
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 3: True or false, We're gonna watch We're gonna watch Deontae

1783
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 3: in tryad combat fight Bigfoot Silva somewhere.

1784
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:33,879
Speaker 4: Oh god, no, no false false false, And you hope

1785
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 4: al Hamon won't let that happen to him. Al Haman's

1786
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 4: done a great job, by the way, building Wilder, making

1787
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 4: him a lot of money. Yet a little bit of debate.

1788
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 4: Should he have taken that disowned deal for one hundred million?

1789
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 4: Maybe he should have, But uh yeah, I don't think

1790
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 4: Wilder's gonna prostitute himself on that level, Luke. But I

1791
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 4: could be wrong. You never know what's gonna happen in

1792
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 4: a fighter's life.

1793
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 2: You never you don't.

1794
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 3: All right, Well, that out of the way, BC, we

1795
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: need to get to fan subs so sir, take it away.

1796
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know our email address, right, fans, It's Morning

1797
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 4: Combat at gmail dot com. Every Wednesday for your fan subs,

1798
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 4: every Friday for your dead wrongs. If you want to

1799
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 4: be on Monday's DM for donks once again, folks Sunday

1800
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 4: night on Instagram at Morning Combat reply to the message

1801
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 4: we put out there. But every Wednesday you fill our

1802
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 4: in holes and we show pictures of you wearing our merch.

1803
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 4: It's called fan submission.

1804
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: Bom bomb, bomp bomb, bomp.

1805
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 4: We've got mail.

1806
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, let's see these things. Let's see this.

1807
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 2: Let's see this shit.

1808
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,759
Speaker 4: Right. We start off with Harrison. He says, surely nobody

1809
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 4: has topped my MK commitment this year. Please don't show

1810
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 4: a man in underwear. Let's see what he's got here, Luke,

1811
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 4: I see a lot of these spotifyeens.

1812
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's almost thirteen and a half thousand minutes.

1813
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

1814
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 4: Wow, Harrison, he's a p one, Luke. He this is

1815
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 4: the type of guy that would make land dieger and

1816
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 4: drive across the country to deliver this sweet and tasty

1817
01:23:56,320 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 4: beef jerky into your hands while possibly contemplating killing you

1818
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 4: and then eating your Organs.

1819
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then also probably filling that land Jagger with

1820
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 3: his ejaculate.

1821
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 4: But hey, shout out to Aaron from Washington. That guy

1822
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 4: was a nice guy, though.

1823
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: Luke, he was a very nice guy, but he probably

1824
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,480
Speaker 2: ejaculated in the last Remember.

1825
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 4: Hey, look if you're gonna come right, I mean, come on,

1826
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 4: Luke right, you know?

1827
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 2: Wow?

1828
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 4: Luke? Yeah, Okay, Hey, this is from cash with a K.

1829
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 4: Hi Luke in BC. This is cash, yap, look.

1830
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: At this cable management? What a zero?

1831
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 4: Call me cash in case you don't pronounce it. I'm

1832
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 4: from Chenne, India. I felt it was about time that

1833
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 4: I represented I'm a donk. I'm a donk from Luke's

1834
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 4: birth country of India. I made sure that my friend

1835
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 4: coming home from New York bought me this merch so

1836
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 4: I can get the fan subs. Excuse the not so

1837
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 4: great cable management. God, it's so awful cable management.

1838
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: I know.

1839
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 3: I mean, could your wires be rupier? They look like

1840
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 3: your grandma's ninety year old breast.

1841
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 4: I mean, Jesus Christ, guy fall he says that.

1842
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like they are saggier than you know,

1843
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 3: that piece of cheese when you pull the slice away

1844
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 3: from the pie, it just falls apart.

1845
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: That's this dude's cable management.

1846
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 4: But he says, MK airs at eight thirty pm in

1847
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 4: the evening for him, and every Monday, Wednesday and Friday

1848
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 4: he can't wait to come home and watch it after work.

1849
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 4: Keep up the great work, Luke. He's representing your home land.

1850
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, all right.

1851
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 3: Also, I mean, could your TV be lower? I mean,

1852
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 3: watch you put the TV on the ground.

1853
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 4: Can we zoom in and judge this guy more? I'm

1854
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 4: a big fan of cashy app. This is my guy

1855
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 4: right here.

1856
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 3: I love that these viewers who are so loyal to

1857
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 3: us sending this and I.

1858
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,839
Speaker 2: Just shit on him for no good reason. Look, I mean, could.

1859
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 4: Hey, I got a thing here? Look how big his

1860
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 4: hand is in comparison to that cup?

1861
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 2: Maybe his mint?

1862
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 4: Maybe his TV isn't actually that low. Maybe this guy's

1863
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 4: like seven ft talld.

1864
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 3: Luke, No, that TV is low as shit. It's I mean,

1865
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 3: I mean it's at the door handle level. Why don't

1866
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 3: you just put it all the way on the ground,

1867
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 3: face down, layer at it?

1868
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 4: You ever see Andre the giant pictures of him drinking beer,

1869
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 4: It looks like a you know, a shot glass in

1870
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 4: his hand. Luke.

1871
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he listens like a juice pack that a kid

1872
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: has at the park.

1873
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 4: You know, Andre used to have to take crabs and toilets,

1874
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 4: I mean in tubs, Luke.

1875
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 2: That's sad. That's sad.

1876
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 4: When he had to go to the bathroom on airplan yeah,

1877
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 4: and airplanes, when he had to go to the bathroom,

1878
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 4: he couldn't fit in there, so they just put like

1879
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 4: a curtain over his chair and he would just like

1880
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 4: going like a pot. Luke. I mean, that's that's embarrassing. Luke.

1881
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 2: That's that dude had a chamber pot.

1882
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 3: I wish I had a chamber pot on flights and

1883
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 3: then you just splash people and.

1884
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 2: Take that peasant.

1885
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 4: All right. This one's from Saul. Yes, better call Saul.

1886
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 4: Tis the season for mid tier Mexican food. Got the

1887
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 4: restaurant special today Steak Enchilada's top with steak, fujitas kso

1888
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 4: green salsa and nacho cheese served with rice and beans

1889
01:26:55,520 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 4: MK all day, especially at the local l Nopal Pay.

1890
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 4: My wife bought me a bunch of Christmas merch and

1891
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 4: this was one of the options. Luke. This guy is

1892
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 4: on fan sums every week. Shout out to solve brother.

1893
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 3: I gotta say, also, don't you agree mid tier Mexican

1894
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 3: food is also top tier food at the same time, you.

1895
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: Know what I mean? Like, oh, yeah, you can't go

1896
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 2: wrong with mid tier Mexican food. You cannot go wrong.

1897
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 4: While I love me love me a top you know,

1898
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 4: top end authentic Mexican place. Yeah, of course, mid tier

1899
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 4: Mexican food is what we we need to live. Look,

1900
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,600
Speaker 4: I would love to live in Greater La just for

1901
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 4: the just for the street vendors, you know, the I've

1902
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 4: heard that.

1903
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 2: I've had some, but I've not done much exploring. But

1904
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: I've heard that the tacos in La are next level.

1905
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 4: I mean, oh, this is the the what do they

1906
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 4: call that, luke? That slot that's uh carne asada fries.

1907
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 4: You ever have that, luke?

1908
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, carne Aries of the Ship? Yeah?

1909
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, man. We gotta go to l MK

1910
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 4: needs to go to l A bro.

1911
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 2: Do you want to go to Gonzalez Gonzalez and n

1912
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: Y n y and risk getting light?

1913
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 4: You know, I've supported that place in Vegas, but that

1914
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 4: place sucks. I have given it a lot of my

1915
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 4: money though, all right, I know.

1916
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 3: And last time, the last time we went there. Our

1917
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 3: waiter was like, what are you bitches doing here? Oh

1918
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 3: you want Margarita? Go fuck your margaret.

1919
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. He was oddously abrasive for like a bald, old

1920
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 4: white guy. Yeah, it was great. Yeah, man, each new

1921
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 4: that knows.

1922
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 2: All right?

1923
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 4: This from Fernando. He says MK all day, every damn day.

1924
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 4: Let's zoom in here.

1925
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: What do we got going on? Terrible cable management with

1926
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 2: his coffee? Man?

1927
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 4: You know what's hilarious about this is I have horrific

1928
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 4: cable management my in my basement family room, Luke, like,

1929
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 4: like you would throw up walking into there and seeing you.

1930
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 4: I love that. So this is this guy, Fernando every morning, Luke,

1931
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 4: when he makes the coffee and drinks it out of

1932
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 4: the MK mug, he's also watching our show. I love that, Luke.

1933
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 2: Oh, I see, here's what I can't I need to see.

1934
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: I want to see what coffee. I'm a bit of

1935
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 2: a coffee snob. I want to see what coffee he's drinking.

1936
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 4: Is that because you you you're invested in the Colombians

1937
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 4: that you are so much of a coffee snob Blue

1938
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 4: because they make yeah.

1939
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they make they make some of the world's best coffee.

1940
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 3: But even then, you know there are coffee types like

1941
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 3: not everyone likes it. It's a milder kind of coffee,

1942
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 3: but you can get like if you like earthier ones

1943
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 3: that you would not like Keleumby coffee. So that's not

1944
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 3: that's just a preference. That's not like better or worse.

1945
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 3: But even within those genres there is better and worse.

1946
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 3: That's what I want to see.

1947
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 4: Dude. You love Gregory's Coffee in Jersey City, right by

1948
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 4: the water there.

1949
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 3: You their coffee is not great, but their coffee is

1950
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 3: not great. I like it because they're reasonable and fast,

1951
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:30,799
Speaker 3: but not because the coffee is amazing.

1952
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 4: Okay, Luke, shout out to the They.

1953
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 2: Also have They also have vegan treats, which I like.

1954
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 4: All Right, Luke, your favorite MK fan is back. They

1955
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 4: call him Chef Cast Luke chef Casts.

1956
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 2: All right, got what's he got? What's he got?

1957
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 4: Shout out to Luke for recommending the tank m one

1958
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 4: a few months back. I got mine on Black Friday

1959
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 4: Savings for one hundred bucks. It came on Friday, not

1960
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 4: about Saturday morning, and it's an awesome addition to my

1961
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 4: training Arsenal. Also check out these wins from the past

1962
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 4: weekend on the Fights. By the way, Hey, what do

1963
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 4: you think these names for the Friday segments? Check out

1964
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 4: my tip, my big tip. Just a few thoughts. I've

1965
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,560
Speaker 4: got keep up the great workfellas, and my guy Chris Curtis,

1966
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 4: give him his due. Don't call him a journeyman chef

1967
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 4: cast Look, this guy once showed up in Vegas at

1968
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 4: the Apex and gave you and I all these meals

1969
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 4: and they were fantastic. They were crazy.

1970
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 3: We also don't know if there was ejaculate in it,

1971
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 3: but we took a chance and ate it anyway.

1972
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:26,799
Speaker 4: He makes meal preps.

1973
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 3: He's like, ah, I think he's Francis and Gano.

1974
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,440
Speaker 2: I think he's like his nutritionist.

1975
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 4: All right, all right, yes, one day, one day you'll

1976
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 4: wake up and bet and Chef Cass will be there

1977
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 4: next to you, Luke.

1978
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 2: But he's right, dude. If you guys don't have it,

1979
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 2: the the Torque Fitness m one sled is fucking great.

1980
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: Love it all right.

1981
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,879
Speaker 4: Hey, this one's from CG. Luke. The Lethal Weapon Thomas

1982
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 4: experiencing yet another technical difficulty.

1983
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 3: With the Columbian flag in the background. Kind of I

1984
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 3: fucking love this. Send that shit to me, Mikey, if

1985
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 3: you're watching this, I'll get a tattoo of that shit.

1986
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: Fuck all, y'all, Louke, what.

1987
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 4: How did it go on on Sunday night the Gervante fight?

1988
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 4: I did tune in for for like ten seconds and

1989
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,719
Speaker 4: there was no sound. But how did that, like watch

1990
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 4: along workout in the end?

1991
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 3: So eventually it was fine. After the seven or eight

1992
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 3: minutes of absolute fuck jobbery committed by myself, I run

1993
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 3: getting that up and running.

1994
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 2: I was trying to how do I explain this delicately?

1995
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be stone cold sober, but I

1996
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 2: didn't want to drink. I'll just leave it at that.

1997
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 2: So some of my decision making in the prep for

1998
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 2: it not the best.

1999
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 4: All right, right, it looked a little too calabasas for me, Luke,

2000
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 4: I was quick to turn the channel.

2001
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 2: All right, we did not have any Tiger thick whiskey,

2002
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 2: but if we did.

2003
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 4: No, I had my parents over for the final night,

2004
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 4: so I didn't get to check it out, but hope

2005
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 4: to join you eventually.

2006
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 3: It was fine, but like it, eventually it was fine,

2007
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 3: But you know what I need for next time? In

2008
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 3: all seriousness, the best way to do it is if

2009
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 3: you and I are together, obviously, but if it's just

2010
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 3: one of us, I do need some other producer who's

2011
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 3: feeding me audience questions because there was a little bit

2012
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 3: too much silence at certain points. So when I was

2013
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 3: able to have something to say, it was great, but

2014
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 3: there were some pauses, and you know, you get the idea.

2015
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 4: All right, Julian says, Hello, Jens. I appreciate Luke's tough love,

2016
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 4: but I think if BC was violently being stabbed on

2017
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,759
Speaker 4: here by a guest, Luke would toss him some pads

2018
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 4: and say, stop bleeding like a bitch A can we

2019
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 4: blow this up in each please? Oh wow, Luke, you

2020
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 4: very much have a Oh BC, you know what you're doing.

2021
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 4: You asked for it when all these people.

2022
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never seen someone who asked for a

2023
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 3: handout more than you in my life.

2024
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,919
Speaker 2: But you know what are you gonna do?

2025
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 4: Save me?

2026
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,799
Speaker 2: Daddy swim bitch?

2027
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 4: All right? There you go. That's that's Luke in a nutshell?

2028
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 4: Uh Salool is back for another one? Is this that

2029
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 4: the same one? Uh?

2030
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 2: Me? And I just want him to send pictures of

2031
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 2: his Mexican food.

2032
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 4: Wow?

2033
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 2: Got enough plaid there, guy?

2034
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 4: Me and my wife went to a pop up Christmas

2035
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 4: bar this weekend. You already know which sweater I had

2036
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 4: to wear to spread the MK gospel. Had a guy

2037
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,480
Speaker 4: ask about my sweater and I told him to subscribe

2038
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 4: to YouTube. I doubt he did MK all day, every day,

2039
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 4: especially during the holidays. This is the same sa Wool

2040
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,799
Speaker 4: from earlier, Luke, and that is probably his beautiful wife.

2041
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 3: Yes, his lovely wife, it seems who does not have

2042
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 3: MK guron But who could blame her? It seems all right,

2043
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 3: you know, no masks insiets, so they probably have COVID.

2044
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 2: But that's all right as well. It's the home.

2045
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 4: She cooks a mean flout, Luke. That's what I hope.

2046
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest flouta fan. I like him. I

2047
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:47,799
Speaker 2: like him, but I don't love them. They're not my favorite.

2048
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 3: If I have a choice about how to consume food

2049
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 3: from that part of the world, I'm not picking flautas first.

2050
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 4: All right. Uh Jonathan is here and he says, Luke,

2051
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 4: boxing is life. I think he's right with this. Let's

2052
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 4: see what he's got. Zoom in please there you go.

2053
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 3: Yeahah, yeah, they tolerate us. They don't really love that

2054
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 3: part of the show, if we can be honest.

2055
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 4: All right, thank you for all you people listening on

2056
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,719
Speaker 4: the audio only podcast version. This is why they created YouTube.

2057
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 4: Thank you for your service, just the same. Finally, Luke,

2058
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 4: Tommy is here. He says, Hi, Lougan bc BC's little

2059
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 4: smirk always brightens my day. It also brightens up over

2060
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 4: fifty thousand stray Cats days. Keep up all the gig

2061
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 4: good work, giggy good. There's some kind of shop reference

2062
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 4: in there. I missed all my love from across the pond, Tommy.

2063
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 2: Now, is this some sort of a meme that I

2064
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 2: don't know about?

2065
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 4: Or I think this is related to the stray Cats

2066
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 4: over there at the fighter and the kid reddit page,

2067
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,719
Speaker 4: Luk A great pace to be entertained.

2068
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm saying, like, is this specific meme created

2069
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 2: just for you?

2070
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 4: Or saying this is a meme from quote that Netflix show?

2071
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I could see other people where this

2072
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 3: is used, not just with BC.

2073
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, Luke, that's what a meme typically is.

2074
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I've been the fucker. I've never seen

2075
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 2: this one before.

2076
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I can tell it's from a show.

2077
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 2: Luke.

2078
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:15,520
Speaker 4: Okay, the networks.

2079
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 3: Are you under the impression that I'm confused that this

2080
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 3: is pulled from some part of cultural entertainment. I understand

2081
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 3: that point. What I'm asking is has this been more

2082
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 3: widely used or was it merely used for you?

2083
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 4: All of the impressions I'm under involving you, I keep

2084
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 4: to myself for fear of poking the bear. And he

2085
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 4: says the Netflix show about suicide, I forgot the name. Okay,

2086
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 4: thanks Corey, thank you.

2087
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 2: So that's great. I'm glad that we're bringing up my

2088
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: mom here on the show. That's awesome. Okay, lovely time. Wow.

2089
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think that's the dots he was connecting. Oh,

2090
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 4: he says, it's called thirteen Reasons Why.

2091
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 2: But here's thirteen reasons why you're all fired.

2092
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 4: How about I did get your back when Josh Thompson

2093
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:52,759
Speaker 4: was inconsiderate there.

2094
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 3: In that moment, right, But I didn't need it though.

2095
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 3: See I didn't call for help you see me, I don't.

2096
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 3: I don't wait for Superman when the fires on hit

2097
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,040
Speaker 3: the building, I just put it.

2098
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 4: Of the straight catch. Doesn't Brendan have a second comedy

2099
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 4: special coming out soon?

2100
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 3: I believe that's what he said. I don't know the

2101
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 3: full details. I think he recorded one in Texas, but

2102
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2103
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't heard.

2104
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 4: All right, Well, wait for the future. We'll see what

2105
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 4: the Maestro has for us. Thank you to all our

2106
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:18,719
Speaker 4: great fans.

2107
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll make no jokes about it. I'm sure

2108
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 2: that you will never sneak in any reference to it,

2109
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 2: one way or the other.

2110
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing about comedy. It's built upon jokes, Luke.

2111
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 4: That's why when we had Shop on our show, I

2112
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 4: came at him. I tried to get him to laugh

2113
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 4: and play comedy with me, Luke, but he sold the

2114
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,640
Speaker 4: shit out of me. Remember that. He was like, I

2115
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 4: have no idea what you're speaking of.

2116
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you made the glass door reference

2117
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 2: to his face. I mean, I'm not sure what you

2118
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 2: were hoping for.

2119
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 4: There, comedy I was hoping for. I was hoping for

2120
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 4: a little give and take.

2121
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 2: You know.

2122
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 4: You know I was once on his show back in

2123
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. I was once on Below the Bell And.

2124
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 3: Did you also start that conversation by asking him if

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Speaker 3: he was a legend that you could dude?

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Speaker 4: They edited out my best jokes. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 4: that was Brendan or the producer. But I had some

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Speaker 4: racy jokes and that they edited all that shit out, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what's one joke that you told that they edited out.

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Speaker 4: Let's see, I had a fantastic Eskimo brother drop I had.

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Speaker 4: I had some good ship, Luke. I was well researched.

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Speaker 4: I was ready. I was you know, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we could have been We could have been, Luke, that

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Speaker 4: was before? Was that before? Mk? Yeah, Luke, it could

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Speaker 4: have been Brendan and I in these Luke, we could

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Speaker 4: have been doing stuff together below the belt, me and

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Speaker 4: me and Shab if he would have received me that day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just waiting for showtime to fire us and

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Speaker 3: to give him kDa Ariel.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's that's the evolution of

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Speaker 2: this show. Really.

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Speaker 4: Ah oh yeah, oh yeah. I declare war on Canada.

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Speaker 4: I'm coming for you next documentary, BC.

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Speaker 3: I will see you tomorrow. I will see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: We are not staying in the same hotel, but we're

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Speaker 3: on the same side of the strip.

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I can't.

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Speaker 4: Be near your lack of optimism or positivity, Like, all right,

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Speaker 4: I'll go to Las Vegas. But we're not gonna win

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Speaker 4: this fucking award.

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Speaker 2: Guys or.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Showtime, Showtime hit us up and says they didn't

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Speaker 3: edit anything out of your sit down with Brendan.

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Speaker 2: Who's lying BC Showtime, not this guy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I got a memory like a like an eagle

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Speaker 4: eyed hawk raccoon. Luke. Okay, all right, I know every

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Speaker 4: joke that was placed.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we just want to remind folks. Mk DK

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Speaker 4: Friday night when RC when sorry, when DC and Ariel

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Speaker 4: are raising their award for Best MMA Programming at the

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Speaker 4: World MMA Awards, will you die a slow death in

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Speaker 4: your chair or will we already be gone by that point?

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Speaker 3: I died a slow death inside a few years ago,

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Speaker 3: so I'm already dead. But I'll probably have another cocktail.

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Speaker 4: Hey, hopefully there's an open bar, Lou, we could party,

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Speaker 4: you know, that'd be great.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember. There's definitely been a bar every

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Speaker 3: time I went. I cannot remember if it was open

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Speaker 3: bar or not, but we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully there's like a five hundred pound giant edible that

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Speaker 4: was delivered there with like two thousand nights.

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Speaker 3: So last time I went, I had a drink with

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Speaker 3: Michael Bisping. I had a drink with not at the

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Speaker 3: same time, Luke Rockold and I had a drink and

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Speaker 3: I talked to a little bit. You know who's an

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Speaker 3: underrated discussion in person? Ridy for this one?

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Speaker 2: No referee Jason Herzog.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fun conversation Jason Herzog against if you see him, say, hi.

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Speaker 4: Yo, I hope we see Josh Rosenthalf, You know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. I hope we see him outside first, dude.

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Speaker 3: If I see Josh Rosenthal, I'm just gonna be one

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Speaker 3: step behind him, breathing in all of the air coming

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Speaker 3: off of his body, just so I can get a

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Speaker 3: massive contact.

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Speaker 4: High Hey, thank you? Are they? Where's this big hell

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Speaker 4: at the high Rollers? Jim Luke? I hope so right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, if this was a high Rollers, it'd be

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Speaker 3: the greatest day of my life. But it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: some other place, so we'll see how it goes. Maybe

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Speaker 3: jose Canseeko will be there. We can get another selfie.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, all right, their BC, I'm Luke, thanks

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Speaker 3: to Malka, thanks to Showtime, thanks to CBS Sports. We're

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Speaker 3: going to be on a bird basically this time tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: If you're in Vegas, say hi. If you're not, I

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Speaker 3: guess we'll see you next time. Wish just luck on Friday.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back then with some programming and enjoy UFC

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Speaker 3: two sixty.

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Speaker 2: Nine on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Of course we'll talk to you before then, So for

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Speaker 3: Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas. Until next time, May all

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Speaker 3: of your gains be loyal,