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Speaker 1: Light with Me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: at Coast to Coast. They am paranormal podcast network. Welcome

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Speaker 1: it comes to anything out of the ordinary, from Bigfoot

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Speaker 1: to shadow people, angels, holy encounters, and if you just

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Speaker 1: it is that you've experienced. For research we have questions about,

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Speaker 1: go to my main website, which is Heidi Hollice dot

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Speaker 1: to spell my name shadow folks dot com. That is

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Speaker 1: the same website, And tell me what's on your mind.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what you've experienced, tell me what you've researched,

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Speaker 1: tell me what you've heard, because this is how we learn.

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Speaker 1: I like to bring people's stories to the forefront and

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Speaker 1: experience and stuff I researched, and you know how to

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Speaker 1: specializes in behavioral health and it helps. I am not

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Speaker 1: a doctor. I'm somebody who has experienced a lot of things,

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Speaker 1: and wow, I found I found the light. I found

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Speaker 1: the light out of all of it, and I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: And remember, you guys, go to Heidi Hollis dot com

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Speaker 1: couldn't tell people. But I also felt like I didn't

428
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Speaker 1: know pouting, and so I was just tutting my own.

429
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Speaker 1: You're very deep in Torontal process with this communication that

430
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: was coming from wherever or whoever. And that's another thing.

431
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: I never actually wondered who is this or what is this?

432
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: It just felt like, oh, yeah, okay, you know this

433
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: is I just need to know this. This is just

434
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: something that's happening, which is integrating it naturally, not thinking

435
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: about it a whole lot. Really amazing. You know, I

436
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: want to continue this conversation because it just shows how

437
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: special of an individual you are from such a young age,

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Speaker 1: and I just can't wait to dive in. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to our next break. You guys, you are

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Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on

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Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a am

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Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network. Stick around, We'll be right back. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi

444
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: Hollis and the I Heart Radio and cost the Code

445
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: They am paranormal podcast Network. I am speaking as shann

446
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: Aid Willihan, and my goodness, absolutely amazing to be four

447
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: years old and have such a clear memory of what

448
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: took place in your initiation into stranger things, let's put

449
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: it that way. And you know, it's amazing to me.

450
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: People feel that when they have something so negative, they

451
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: feel like I must have done something to deserve that.

452
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Usually it's because you are so different,

453
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: you are a different kind of human being that these

454
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: dark things do not like it, and they try to

455
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: stomp out your light. And I'm so happy to hear

456
00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: that you recognize early on your special ability these At

457
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: ten years old, you started writing a diary. Do you

458
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: still have these two reference? I do. I have parts

459
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: of them. Unfortunately I did lose a bunch of them,

460
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: but I do have some parts of them to reference.

461
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: And for a long time it was about me communing

462
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: with I realized now I was mentioning earlier. I really

463
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: feel like we learned life backwards. You know, we kind

464
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: of learned by reflecting and going back and making connections

465
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: and you know, putting puzzle pieces together, especially when you've

466
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: had your paradigm busted in such a big way like

467
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: you and I have. You know, we exist in this

468
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: paranormal spiritual community because something came along, something happened to

469
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: us that made us go reality is not quite what

470
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: we are being taught that it is. And so you know,

471
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: at that time, as a child, I was just um

472
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: living in this dual reality. I guess, you know. I

473
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: would often feel like I had a very active imagination,

474
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 1: that's for sure, but I would often feel like I

475
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: was really having communication with something and that it was

476
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: helping me, and it was teaching me things, and uh

477
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: so I documented some of that in my diary, but

478
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: my diary was mostly about having it ongoing communication with myself,

479
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, like developing a relationship with myself and my

480
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: I guess, my higher self because a lot of um

481
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 1: comfort and a lot of reassurance and a lot of

482
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: answers would have come to me just through writing. You know,

483
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: I would start an entering. By the end of that entry,

484
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: I would have a different perspective on whatever it was

485
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: I started writing about. So yeah, I've always been big

486
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: on communication. That's very important to me as a deaf person.

487
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Listening is very important to me, and I don't think

488
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: that listening is just done with your ears. So that is, uh,

489
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: my disability in this life has been a boom, you know,

490
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: a benefit for me because this taught me a lot

491
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: of other skills and other ways of being sensitive and

492
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: being tuned in and listening. Truly, I don't see it

493
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: as a disability the way yet your speaking definitely a superability.

494
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: My goodness, I applaud you for your things that you've

495
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: accomplished and representing this. Uh, there's so many people who

496
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: don't see themselves represented out in this field. So honestly,

497
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: I believe you're the first that that I've met that

498
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: have a hearing impairment of a sort. But again, it

499
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: sounds more like a superpower. So that's awesome. So I

500
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: think that's what our challenges are really for, right to

501
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: turn them upside down and see what's underneath them and

502
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: how we can how we can make them into something

503
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: useful or something that we can use to empower ourselves. Yes, honestly,

504
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: and you also are a special needs educators, so you

505
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: really honed in on it. I had challenges with other

506
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: things as a kid. I became an occupational therapist. So

507
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that's true when we are realized,

508
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: well I struggled. I'm sure there's others who struggle. So

509
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: let me get into that ballpark and try to help

510
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: other people crawl out of these things. So kudos, yeah, exactly, exactly,

511
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: kudos to you as well. I mean I really feel like,

512
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, people show up for others in this world

513
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: in any way that they know how to, and often

514
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: that's with our professions. Sometimes it's with their spiritual selves.

515
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: But um, you know, going into a service profession where

516
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: you're supporting others is so incredibly important to mate your

517
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: contribution to anybody. I mean even you know, transit workers,

518
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: people who are driving buses. They're doing a huge service

519
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: for huge populations in cities, right, and they're not really

520
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: seeing for for that, And so I think we need

521
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: to all appreciate that about each other. I really appreciate

522
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: you mentioning that. Yes, it's it's very important. So tell

523
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: me you've experienced not just uh this this inner guidance.

524
00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: You've also had other other experiences that weren't horrific. So

525
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: let's dive into some of those, shall we. Sure? Do

526
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: you want to ask me about something specific? Oh no,

527
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to let you steer this bus. Since we

528
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: were talking about buses and bus drivers. I like that. Segway,

529
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: let's do it clever, clever, Okay, Oh gosh. Um, Well,

530
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about my awakening because I did have

531
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: I am a lifelong experience or of different kinds of

532
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, paranormal stuff. But for a long time I

533
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: didn't really know what it was, what to do with it,

534
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: what to make of it, how to digest it, and

535
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: most significantly, how to integrate it into my life, right

536
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: into actual living like way of living and way of

537
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: thinking and way of perceiving things. So what happened was

538
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: after a really long period of actually a great deal

539
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: of struggle, a great deal of suffering. You know, I

540
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: had a pretty hard time for about ten years, and

541
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: like for about ten years there, and so I went

542
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: to this really low point. I was feeling super burned out,

543
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: super exhausted, you know, exhausted by all kinds of things,

544
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: exhausted by experiences I had had in my life, and

545
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: just burned out by work. And so I was kind

546
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: of in this place where I was going, Okay, what

547
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: happened to all those things I was able to do

548
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: as a child, Like, why can't I where is? Where

549
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: are those abilities that used to just be there? You know,

550
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: my psychic abilities, my intuition, my empathy, all those things?

551
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: How come they've gone? What What have I done that

552
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: has taken me off of that path that I used

553
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: to be on so naturally and easily and that fed

554
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: me right, nourished me. So I realized that I was

555
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: kind of lost. You know, I wasn't really happy at work.

556
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: I didn't really know where I was in my life

557
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: or what I was doing. And so it was a

558
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: point of great vulnerability, and I think that that's important

559
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: because being vulnerable, being in a place of you could say,

560
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: trauma or suffering or grief, it's a tender place to

561
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: be and that's often an opening for communication to come in.

562
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: So Bam, I was given a massive awakening in which

563
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: is actually after right after I got my second cochlear implant.

564
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: So I have to cochlear implants. As I mentioned, I'm

565
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: deaf here and needs were not powerful enough for me anymore.

566
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: So I had to have implants, which are amazing, by

567
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: the way. But the second one that I got, I

568
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: was at home. I'm recovering, and because I have to

569
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: go into your inner ear system and mess around in there,

570
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: you can get a little bit dizzy afterwards. So I

571
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: was dizzy for about twenty four hours a day, seven

572
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: days a week for two weeks. And so I'm lying

573
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: around not able to do a lot. I can't really

574
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: go for a walk. I might fall over, that kind

575
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: of thing. So um, So I was lying on my

576
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: couch recovering and I just thought, oh my gosh, I'm bored.

577
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: I would really like to see or or experience something new,

578
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: something interesting, you know. I'm I'm bored. After being inside alto,

579
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, for two weeks lying down, and I want

580
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: to see something that is outside of the norm of

581
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: what I would usually watch. So I went on to

582
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime and I found just by chance that Bob

583
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: Lazzar documentary. It's called Airing A fifty one and Bob

584
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: Lazzar or vice versa left Bob Blazar and Area fifty one.

585
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: I watched it. It absolutely blew my mind. I've never

586
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: seen anything like this before. I immediately believed him. I

587
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: felt like he had integrity and he was The way

588
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: he was speaking was so authentic, and I was just

589
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: astounded by what I was hearing and thinking, oh my gosh,

590
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: this is really amazing. I have to find out more

591
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: about this. Turned the film off and boom, Literally right

592
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: after I turned it off, I was given my awakening

593
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: and it felt like I described it as the cosmic

594
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: trying pan. It was like getting bombed over the head

595
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: with the cosmic frying pan. Um. It was that reverberated

596
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: for me of an experience, and it was so massive

597
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: energetically that I actually kept reverberating with this experience for

598
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: literally at least another eight weeks. I think it was

599
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: even into October. This is the end of June, early July.

600
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: And I was just on another level for two or

601
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: three months after that, and it was just something else.

602
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: I've never had anything like that happened before. Um, so

603
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: that really really really woke me up, because the message

604
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: was extremely firm, extremely clear, and came with this kind

605
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: of loving, nurturing presence that I never felt. I've never

606
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: been religious. My parents were raised I was Catholic, and

607
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: they left the church when they were in their twenties,

608
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: moved to Canada from Ireland and had my brother and

609
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: I here, So we had never been involved in the

610
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: church or any kind of religion. And so this is

611
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: the first kind of experience like this I'd ever had,

612
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe that. I just couldn't believe that

613
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: that this was happening. Yeah, I knew that it was,

614
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: and so I just kind of stayed in this bubble

615
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: of amazement about what had just occurred. And uh, something

616
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: like two and a half weeks later, or about two

617
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: weeks later, I was starting a job. So again you

618
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: mentioned that I'm a teacher, So I was starting this

619
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: summer job that teachers can sometimes do for extra bucks

620
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: where in Canada. You're marking government literacy tests. And what

621
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: that means is these are mandatory literacy tests that are

622
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: sent out to every single child in Canada. UM in

623
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: grade six and then in grade ten. So I was

624
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: supposed to mark the same question over and over and

625
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: over again in hundreds of different booklets. And UM, I'm

626
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: starting this job. So I walked into this huge warehouse.

627
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: There's hundreds of teachers that are sitting there ready to

628
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: mark these booklets. Everybody's exhausted, you know, it's and thirty

629
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: in the morning. We've got a coffee, kind of low vi,

630
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: huge concrete warehouse. And so the juxtaposition between that atmosphere

631
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: and what I had just experienced, which was totally unlike

632
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: anything I've never had happened to me before, I it

633
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: was really jarring. And so after three days of being

634
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: in this job, I was like, oh my god, did

635
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: I make that up? You know my awakening? Did I

636
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: did I imagine? That? Was that really real? Because this

637
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: is reality to people. I was thinking, right, this job,

638
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: in this life, and the kind of waking up, going

639
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: to work, you know, doing something to pay the bills,

640
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: this is reality. So that can't be reality. And so

641
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: I went home that night, and I was actually a

642
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: little bit stressed out and a little cherry, and I

643
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: kneeled down on the floor of my living room and

644
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: basically prayed again something I've never really done before to them,

645
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: and I just said, look, I really think you're real.

646
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: I really think you were here. I really think you

647
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: did come through to me. But I need proof, I

648
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: mean absolute, undeniable proof. I need to know it's is

649
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: real and I'm not going crazy. Stay, do you mind

650
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: if we leave them hanging to the next segment to

651
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: see what that proof is? All Right? You guys, you

652
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi Hollis

653
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM

654
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Networks. Chick around for the rest of this

655
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: fascinating story. Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes

656
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: Life with me Idie Hollis on the I Heart Radio

657
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast i AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Alright,

658
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: shand we I think we tease them enough, so let's

659
00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: hear this rest of this unbelievable story. And if my mind,

660
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: I have to say, I'm having so many people come

661
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: on this program who are not faith based, but they're

662
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: having these almost like huge faith based like moments almost

663
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's like to the soul of them type

664
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Speaker 1: of experiences. So you had your first prayer full moment

665
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: and what happened after that? So I asked them to

666
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: proof and so the next morning, um, I went into work.

667
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: At The short version is that every single day we

668
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: are you know, we're again we're in this huge warehouse

669
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: and there's all these rooms sectioned off with hundreds of

670
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: teachers marking these booklets, and so each room has a

671
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: quota that they're supposed to meet every day of how

672
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: many booklets you mark, right, and everyone's doing the same

673
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: question in their booklets. So you basically do this. You

674
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: get the speel for in the first thing in the

675
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: morning from the leader of the room said, okay, everybody,

676
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: good morning, this is a quota for today. These you know,

677
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: rem were these rules blah blah, And then you just

678
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: get up from your desk and you go to the

679
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: front of the room grab any random stack of booklets

680
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: and there's literally hundreds of them on this massive self

681
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: at the front of the room. You just go up

682
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: and grab a stack, bring them back to your desk.

683
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: And you start scoring them. So that morning, every single

684
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: booklet that I got for forty five minutes was completely

685
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: off topic. And every single one. These are written by

686
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: ten and eleven year old children who are in grade six.

687
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: So when you're looking at the actual handwriting of these

688
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: kids in these booklets, right, they've hand written them. So

689
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these these stories that these kids were

690
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: supposed to have just written creatively from from from a

691
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: prompt that they were given, but they're totally off topic.

692
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: They're talking about flying cars and interdimensionality and uh, intergalactic

693
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: councils and the Earth is alive and conscious and traveling

694
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: portals and aliens and I mean, I could not believe it.

695
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: It was absolutely extraordinary because it was just completely out

696
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: of place, and I really wish I'd been able to

697
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: take photographs of these answers, but because it was government property,

698
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to um. But that's what happened. So

699
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: they gave me my answer, you know, booklet after booklet

700
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: after booklet, through the voices of these tender eleven year

701
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: old kids from all over Canada. It was just something else. Yeah,

702
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: don't you think this model that we go by keeping

703
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: so darn busy that we do kind of drone out

704
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: our senses and what we're capable of. I mean, we've

705
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: become these working machines and it's not natural. Uh, and

706
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: you lose touch. I mean, my goodness, so out of

707
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: the mouth of babes that reminded you of who you

708
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: really are. Yeah, they really did. And the thing is

709
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: that in two seventeen I had actually met um et

710
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: s like I was inside a ufoto very briefly. I

711
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: was in Peru at the time, and I was having

712
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: a Uh. Peru was amazing. I definitely have had a

713
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: past life in Peru. I felt like on another energetic

714
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: level the whole time I was there, and I had

715
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: amazing experiences all over that country for the three weeks

716
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: that I was there, but for one part of it,

717
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: I was in the jungle, and without going into a

718
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: whole lot of detail about this, basically ets appeared and

719
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: light beings gave me a huge enthusiastic welcome, um as

720
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: if they had been waiting for me for years and

721
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: years and years, and I had no idea that I

722
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: was being waited for. They were absolutely delighted to see me,

723
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: and they invited me into the UFO. So I got

724
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: to be inside the UFO very briefly, and then they

725
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: took me outside of it again and said, listen, we

726
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: want to take you up. We want you to come

727
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: with us. Um, but I the the sorcery is I

728
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: was not able to go. I was having a great

729
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: deal of stomach upset at the time, um, and so

730
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to go. But when I felt them leaving,

731
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: I felt their voices getting fainter. I was saying, no, no, no,

732
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: don't go, you know, staying I wanna, I wanna continue this,

733
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: and they said, don't worry, this is your invitation. And

734
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: so at the time I had no idea what that was.

735
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: But then two years later, almost to the day with

736
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: when my awakening happened, and then my life was just

737
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: not the same After that, I was already thinking, you know,

738
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: what am I doing with my life? What is this

739
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: career really right for me? What am I? What am

740
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: I here for? You know what is all this for?

741
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: So when that happened, it just gave me that jolt

742
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: of inspiration and um joining for life again and expanded

743
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: my world view and but just busted my paradigm in

744
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: a way I never saw coming and has refreshed everything

745
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: about my life and about how I see myself as well.

746
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: Amazing and and and and true teacher fashion and and

747
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: advocate fashion as you are, you decided to pull your

748
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: efforts of exploring such topics and inner existence is uh,

749
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: what are you doing now? What? What are what's your organization?

750
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: And podcast? I love that question if I'm so excited

751
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: to talk about this. I actually met one of your

752
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: other guests, Jenna Leyden, who has become a very good

753
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: friend of mine. I met her through a mutual friend

754
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: and when we met each other, we had this experience

755
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: of recognizing each other right away. You know, we just

756
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: felt like, oh, I know you, you know, and we

757
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: were having telepathic experiences, we were having synchronicities. So we

758
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: we felt this compulsion to get to know each other better.

759
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: And so we started having our own chats one on

760
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: one and that was became you know, long hours long

761
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: conversations that we just realized, oh my god, we have

762
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: so much in common, we have so much to talk about,

763
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: we have so much we want to do. That is

764
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: very similar. And so Jenna had already started Star Family

765
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: Wisdom Um. She's the founder of Star Family Wisdom. But

766
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: she was saying to me, you know, I really want

767
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: to do this, but I can't do this by myself,

768
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: and I think you might be the person that I

769
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: was supposed to team up with. So I just said yes.

770
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: I took that as the universe giving me an opportunity

771
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: to continue my path, and so I said yes. And

772
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: we have been co creating Star Family Wisdom together ever since.

773
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: This was last year, the fall of last year, and uh,

774
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: we have a podcast going. So we have a Star

775
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: Family Wisdom dot com website which offers beautiful free products

776
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: for anybody who's curious about e t s that would

777
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: be extraterrestrials or UFOs or consciousness or human evolution, spirituality, shamanism.

778
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: We have free products, we have courses, we have all

779
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: kinds of things available to you. And then on our

780
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: podcast we have really amazing conversations with amazing people such

781
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: as yourself, people who are leaders in the field, people

782
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: who are really wanting to make a contribution to this

783
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: very valuable pivotal time in our human evolution on Earth.

784
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: So I've actually left teaching, which probably sounds crazy. It

785
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: was a secure, lifelong job with very good pay. Teachers

786
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: in the in Canada get paid better than in the US. Unfortunately,

787
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: we don't know the meaning of this. Can you translate that? Please?

788
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that, right, Just kidding? Sure, what honor

789
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: your teachers? What? I don't know what that is such

790
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: a shocking concept, right, Such a shocking and familiar concept,

791
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: I know. I think the way we treat teachers here. Yeah,

792
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, education is in trouble, I think all over

793
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: the world. And that's a whole other conversation. But it

794
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: was really starting to dampen my spirit considerably. And you know,

795
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, I'm a sensitive, empathic person and this,

796
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: this is a system that has become very corporate, very dry,

797
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: very much about in my personal view, turning out product

798
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: as if it's a corporation and the product is human beings.

799
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: And I feel very weird about that, you know, I

800
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: feel like there's a different way we need to be

801
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: addressing this. But in the meantime, I was in the career,

802
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: loving my kids, loving being a teacher, loving my classroom,

803
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: but feeling super discouraged and you know, demoralized frankly by

804
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: the system and how it was operating. And so along

805
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: comes Jenna, and along comes um this opportunity, and meanwhile,

806
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm having more and more and more experiences with my

807
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: communication with E T s and with other beings that

808
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: are around me. So my trajectory has been expanding, you

809
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: could say, and Star Family Wisdom came along at exactly

810
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: the right time. So Jenna and I have just been

811
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: on this amazing adventure together creating this content, wanting to

812
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: share our journey with others, inspire others, and support others

813
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: also in their own evolution spiritually and otherwise. Well, I

814
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: would say that was a pretty darn good trade up

815
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: that you did there. It was, indeed, Yeah, I mean

816
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: I have left a great deal of security, you know,

817
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: pension benefits, all that stuff. But I was feeling it

818
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: like it was the golden handcuffs. And then if I

819
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: really wanted to change my life, I had to do

820
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: I had to surrender. And that's a really big topic

821
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: to talk about, but surrender and vulnerability are incredibly, incredibly

822
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: powerful energetic forces and when you allow yourself to go

823
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: into that space, this is my personal opinion, just my experience, Uh,

824
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: it allows these beings to come through and to to

825
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: work with you more closely so that you're you're collaborating

826
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: with the universe. You're collaborating with the three D as much, right,

827
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: and we want to move out of the three D.

828
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: We want to move up. We want to go beyond

829
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: this stuff that is keeping us so limited and our thinking,

830
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: in our being nous and so um. You know, Star

831
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: our family wisdom was absolutely something I co manifested in

832
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: my life. But Jenna has also given me that opportunity

833
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: to work with her and our guides and the universe

834
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 1: are supporting us in really amazing ways. It's something else.

835
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: It's truly been It's truly been an adventure. It's been

836
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: an adventure. So it's making me feel it makes me

837
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: feel more alive, even though I'm taking all these risks,

838
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 1: you know, financially another one. Um. I feel like they've

839
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: got my back, I really do. And the evidence is

840
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: there around me to to encourage that feeling. It. Yeah,

841
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: that's wonderful. Well, I really want to thank you so

842
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: much for coming on the show today. This has been

843
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: super enlightening and a lot of fun. I really enjoyed

844
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: this conversation. Oh, thanks so much. It's really lovely to

845
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: be here. I really appreciate the invitation and the chance

846
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: to connect with you amazing. You know, Time and time again,

847
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: I am running into people like myself and like Shannade

848
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: here who walked away from their careers because they feel

849
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: so passionate about what it is that is pulling in

850
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: their souls to enlighten others to continue on their path

851
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: of enlightenment. And it's a nice shift. It's a nice

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