1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume The Colin Cowhard Podcast, brought to you by 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. It's never been easier to play fantasy on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. Whether you love basketball, golf, soccer, or any 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: fantasy sport, there is a contest for every fan Fan 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi, everybody, and welcome to 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: the Colin Coward Podcast on Friday. I can't believe how 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: popular it was. Might take on Baker Mayfield spotting a 8 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: UFO and you know, obviously it was tongue in cheek, 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: but it is interesting. I would prefer my franchise quarterback 10 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: not talk about UFOs. And I know most people don't 11 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: understand it. I'm gonna give you a reason why. So 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: remember when Jimmy Garoppolo had dinner with a porn star 13 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: and I went on the air and I said, this 14 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: is not great. He's gonna get yelled at. One hundred 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: percent of the feedback was one, it's no big deal, 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: and it isn't to you because you're not famous, and 17 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of you will never be famous, 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: or franchise quarterbacks or the leader of an industry. Overwhelmingly, 19 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: almost one hundred percent of you listening to me or 20 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: just normal people have nice jobs. Maybe you work at 21 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: a law firm, you work at home, deepot, you're a landscaper, 22 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: you're a teacher, you have normal jobs. So fans often 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: don't understand am a celebrity, AM a franchise quarterback. So 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: John Lynch was pissed and reamed out Jimmy Garoppolo. So 25 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: that was one of those where I said, yeah, this 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: isn't going to go well, and then the fans one 27 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: hundred percent said it just doesn't matter. Franchise quarterback should 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: not be having public dinners with porn stars. You can 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: do it at home, you can do it at her place, 30 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: you can do it at your place, you can do 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: it any place. Don't do it next to TMZ in 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: the Hills. Same with Baker Mayfield. There's no big deal 33 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: if he's a UFO. But if you are an agent 34 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: and you had a quarterback and he was going to 35 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: be interviewed before the draft, and he set you up 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: for the interviews, and he prepped you and he said, listen, 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna try to find little quirks and flaws in 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: your character. And he wrote down, listen, if they ask 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: you if you've seen a UFO even if you have, 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: just say no. You don't want them to think you're 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: a kuk because remember, over half of Americans don't believe 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: in UFOs. This is why presidents when asked about it, 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: this is why senators and governors generally say, oh, no, 44 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: I have it and give an ambiguous, vague answer. It's 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: not the end of the world, and nobody thinks it is. 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: But this is a blind spot for fans. By the way, 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: the media often has blind spots. The media never discusses 48 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: their bias, and we all have bias in the media, 49 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: and most people in the media just it's a blind spot. 50 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: They just they think they're above bias. No, they're not. 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly newspaper reporters vote Democrat. It absolutely can shade some 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: of their reporting. Absolutely. The blind spot for fans is, well, 53 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: that's no big deal. No, it's not to you or 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: anybody in your family. But it is a big deal 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: for public figures to be on their best behavior when 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: making comments. Now I would I wouldn't want my quarterback 57 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: rushing to Twitter to say say he saw a UFO. 58 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: It's not going to determine the AFC North. But it 59 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: is funny about this kind of stuff. Aaron Rodgers by 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: the way, I said it before, and it's wildly entertaining 61 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: to me. But that's just the that's the reality of 62 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: being a franchise quarterback. I've always said you have to 63 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: be uniquely mature. Johnny Manzille's talented, Jamis Winston, cam Newton, 64 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: They're all uniquely talented, but they weren't uniquely mature. Andrew 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: luck was, Russell Wilson was. Remember Big Ben got into 66 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: trouble early in his career. If he's not talented, he's 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: out of the league. So you know, these are these 68 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: are I just saw. When I saw the Baker UFO story, 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: I just rolled my eyes. I didn't make much of it. 70 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: I did it three minute rant out of my three hours. 71 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't that big of a deal. But it is 72 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: interesting the response that people are outraged. How could it 73 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: be a big deal when you're a public figure. You 74 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: don't see pictures of me with alcohohol in my hand. 75 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: I never have alcohol in my hand. I try not 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: to ever when I take pictures with people. Why. I 77 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: don't want my bosses to see it. I don't want 78 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: my advertisers to see it. I don't want to be 79 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: marginalized by people. I take pictures all everywhere I go. 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: Everywhere I go, every point of America, people come up 81 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: and want a picture. It's no big deal. I do 82 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: it five times a day, sometimes twenty times a day. 83 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: If I'm at an event, it's no big deal. I 84 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: don't care. But I try to make sure I'm smiling. 85 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: I don't have a beer in my hand. And so 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: this is the blind spot of the fans believing none 87 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: of this stuff ever matters public figures. You'd be amazed 88 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: what matters. You would be amazed what quarterbacks in the 89 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: NFL have been called in for to their bosses. I 90 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: think you'd be shocked by it. I think you'd be 91 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: amazed how often television people in the country are called 92 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: into their bosses for something that never makes the press, 93 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: that the media or their media bosses are mad about. 94 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: It's just the reality of being a public figure. It's 95 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: no big deal. It's not the end of the world. 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: But it's just a thought, all right. So I bring 97 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: in my friend Eric Mangini. So the folks you've heard 98 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: my rant on this. So if you were drafting a 99 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: quarterback and you had fifteen minutes to interview him, and 100 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: you'd had a couple of you know, yeah, a couple 101 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: of trick questions. You want to make sure this guy 102 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: is quick on his feet. And let's say you asked 103 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: him a trick a question about UFOs. If he admitted 104 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: he'd seen UFOs he was fascinated by UFOs, what would 105 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: be your takeaway. Yeah, I thought I thought it was 106 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: a bit. I didn't read deeply into the article or 107 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: any of the reaction because I thought it was something 108 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: that he was doing to joking around. I really liked 109 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: the things that Baker has done this offseason and even 110 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: into last year. But when I see things like this, 111 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't fire me up. I'm not sitting there going, yeah, 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: that's what I want my guy to be talking about 113 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: is UFOs. And in the draft process, Colin, we'd always 114 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: try to ask questions to see if we could get 115 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: guys to talk about things that could be I don't 116 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: know if it's red flag, but just things that we 117 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: would then have to talk about in the in the 118 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: meeting room, and that would that would be a concern. 119 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: We would have to discuss that if we were talking 120 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: about our guy bringing him in number one overall and 121 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: he was into UFOs and really felt like he saw 122 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: one that'd be a concern, that'd be a little bit 123 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: of worried, you know. And I tell the audience this, 124 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: this is the blind spot for fans. Fans always say 125 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, and I say to him, that's because 126 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: you're an insurance salesman, or you work at home depot, 127 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: or you're a landscaper. It doesn't matter in your world. 128 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: But if you're a governor, or franchise quarterback, or a 129 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: superintendent of a high school, you probably want to not 130 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: rush to social media to talk about UFOs. Fans have 131 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: in my career. It is the blind spot of fans. 132 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: Little things like I never take a picture with alcohol 133 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: in my hand. If you and I go out to dinner, 134 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: somebody comes up and I've had a cocktail or have it. 135 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: I put it down when I take a picture because 136 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to marginalize myself, my company, my advertisers, 137 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: my affiliates. Right, Yeah, nobody else would think that, And 138 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: so it is interesting, So you do put you would 139 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: put up and Belichick by the way, that you can 140 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: share this now during your process. In New England, is 141 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Bill putting draftees and kids in situations to have to answer, 142 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, go either way questions. Yeah, you would always 143 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: like even when I met with kids, I loved I 144 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: loved when the guys came in to the facility for 145 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: the visits because you got to spend a lot of 146 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: time with them and ask them a ton of questions. 147 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: And you would try to ask some questions that would 148 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: get him talking, that would get him outside of the 149 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: preparation that they had been given, where you can actually 150 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: see some of their personality, asking him stuff like if 151 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: you were in a movie, if you were if there's 152 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: a movie about your life, who would play you? And why? 153 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: You know, who would play your leading lady. Okay, well, 154 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: I want you to ask some questions, and I'm going 155 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: to answer him as if I'm a quarterback because I 156 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: think it's a good answer. Okay, so ask me first 157 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: of all, No, I like, if you could have lunch 158 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 1: with anybody living or dead, who would it be? And why? 159 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: George Washington because he had no template to be a 160 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: president and then he could have maintained the presidency. He 161 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: relinquished power. Unlike the guy that was in the White 162 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: House recently. He had power. He was the most powerful 163 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: person in our country, but he realized his time was 164 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: over beyond being president and a hero. And I think 165 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: it's fascinating when you don't have a roadmap. What are 166 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: your instincts? What is your decency? And I would like 167 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: to sit down and talk about a guy. I mean 168 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: if I was a quarterback, and there's never been a quarterback, 169 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: it would be more difficult because I've taken things from 170 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: certain quarterbacks. This is how you act, this is what 171 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: you say, this is what you do after a loss. 172 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: I just think George Washington's the most fascinating person you 173 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: could talk to. Yeah, great answer. So there's really there's 174 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: there's no bad answer as long as you can explain why. 175 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: Your answer is is is what it is? You know, 176 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: someone said Jesus and I said why? And they say, 177 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: because I want to ask him whether or not I'm 178 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: going to heaven. I thought, okay, that's that's really that 179 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: is a and and he said and if not, why, 180 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: you know? I thought, okay, that that's pretty good. Um, 181 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: all right, So so making a movie your life, it's 182 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: it's a Colin Coward movie. Who's playing you? And why? Boy, 183 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: that's a good question. Who is playing me? And why? 184 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: An actor Marlon Brando once said, as an actor, you 185 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: can only be yourself or a version of your father. Okay, 186 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: so I think I think it would be fascinating if 187 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: my father as a child could play me, so I 188 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: could watch because I can't understand how I act because 189 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: I don't watch me. I am mean trying to get 190 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: Wesley and you're trying to get new the NFL. If 191 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: you want to simple, I want an actor that like, 192 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: that's deep, it's layers, and you'd be Look, you're a 193 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: lot of fun. You got to dinner with for this reason. 194 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: You know. The answers are like this. But if we're 195 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: in the meeting room, okay, and you're a twenty k 196 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, twenty one year old, twenty two year old guy, 197 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna give you more. All right. I would 198 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: say Tom Hanks because I feel like, um, he's courageous 199 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: but doesn't tell yet. He's smart but never brags about it. 200 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: He's thoughtful without saying it's he has values, doesn't have 201 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: to advertise it. I just feel like he's rock solid. 202 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: I get everything I want and he never has to 203 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: pump his chest and tell you about it. Okay, great answer. 204 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: Let me just follow one more thing. Your house is 205 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: on fire. You can take one material object from your house, 206 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: just one. Everybody's outsafe that you don't have to worry 207 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: about the family of the animals. What material object would 208 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: you take from your house as an adult or as 209 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: a twenty year old kid right now? I would take 210 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: the picture of my family at watch Hill, Rhode Island, 211 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: on one of the great days of our life, at 212 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: the beach when the kids were learning to swim and surf, 213 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: and there's a picture of all of us at the beach, 214 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: and I grab that picture. It's a good one. There 215 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: are a lot of answers on that one. Some guys 216 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: would say they're wallet because they couldn't replace the you know, 217 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: it'd be hard to replace other credit cards and license. 218 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: Some people say cell phone. Um, you know, this is 219 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: even further back, where all your information on your cell 220 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: phone it wasn't backed up on or your laptop because 221 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: things weren't backed up on the cloud. Everything was there, um, bibles, 222 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: family pictures, you know. But you get a range of 223 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and and these are these are questions 224 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: that you know you're not really preparing with your agent for. Yeah, 225 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting. I've always had this theory. Now, 226 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm agnostic, so I'm not very religious. I grew up 227 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: in a non traditional family, but um, super religious kids. Now. 228 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: I always said, you know, I want you to believe 229 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: something beyond yourself and the power of that. But if 230 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: somebody comes in and talks a lot of religion over 231 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: and over and over and over. I mean Tim Tebow, 232 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: it was it was the first thing through the door. 233 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: Could you ever think to yourself, Wow, that he is? 234 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 1: That is that really drives his life. And it's sometimes 235 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need him to be a hard I'm gonna 236 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: need him to be tough. People are gonna swear around him, 237 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: like you ever if you ever talked to a kid 238 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: that was too nice? Yeah, but it's It's also what 239 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: some guys will talk religion and talk Bible because they 240 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: think it's what you want to hear. But then when 241 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: you drill down. So I'm gonna say, you know, what's 242 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: your favorite what's the last book you read the Bible? 243 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: Oh do you read the Bible a lot? Yeah? I 244 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: read it all the time. Oh really, what's your favorite 245 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: Bible verse? And why? Well, um, you know, but you 246 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: said you read it all the time, right, so there 247 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: must be something that that and and you can find 248 00:13:53,880 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: out pretty quickly who who is legitimately behind and who 249 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: is putting it out there because they think that's what 250 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: the world wants to see. And I'd say in terms 251 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: of guys being too nice, religion, it's an industry and 252 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: it's a business where it's so much uncertainty. You know 253 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: your career could be over any second, in injury, you 254 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: can get cut, all these things. 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And the 279 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: truth is Brady and Belichick didn't go to dinner, Kobe 280 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: and Phil argued, Parcels and Sims didn't get along. Deal 281 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: with it. You don't have to be best friends. Everybody 282 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: wants a resolution on every thing. By the way, my 283 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: wife and I have bad weeks. I don't run away 284 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll should get over it 285 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: and the reality is there are times in a locker 286 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: room where guys hate each other, but you all kind 287 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: of understand its work, move forward, win games. And I 288 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: look at this and I think got in twenty twenty one. 289 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: You know, I deal with my kids all the time 290 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: and they talk. I can't believe they said this, and 291 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: I said, believe it. They're human. People think awful things 292 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: about you. You're going to compete your whole life against 293 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: girls that are going to smile to your face and 294 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: they want to get the job you want. And so 295 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: I look at Pete and Ross and I think to myself, 296 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't need resolution. Just deal with it, get over it, 297 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: and play your thoughts on that. Going through this, Colm 298 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the problem is. Because Schottenheimer 299 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: was there, Brian was my offensive coordinator. He's a great guy. 300 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Russ had plenty of input, plenty of input, and you know, 301 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: I know the two guys that are in there there 302 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: now I've worked with both of them. He's gonna have 303 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: plenty in put with the new law offensive coordinating, the 304 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: new running game coordinator. And the idea that he's not 305 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: being heard, that's not true. I think it's more in 306 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: line with similar to Brady and Belichick. As you get older, 307 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard for the guy in charge to see 308 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: you as anything but that young player you were when 309 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: they first got you. And and Tom at forty three 310 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: is very different than Tom at twenty three, and his 311 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: life has changed. He's a dad, he's he's an adult. 312 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: He's not only adult, he's an adult approaching middle age. 313 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: Like this is a it's a different it's a different dynamic. 314 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: So maybe that that relationship that that initial young guy 315 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: mentor has has changed for Russell and and he's grown 316 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: frustrated with it. That's the only thing I can look 317 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: at and say, this is the reason why there's there's disagreements. 318 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: But to your point, yeah, get over it. Get a 319 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: trade that I could see making make sense is would 320 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: they ever send Russell to Houston Ford Shaun? Like, would 321 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: you ever make that swap? Would you ever said like that? 322 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: Then you'd at least be getting you know, talent for talent, Like, 323 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: but there's just too much money too to move on 324 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: from Russell? Like, you can't make the trade, did you? 325 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean, be honest about it. Brady seems like the 326 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: kind of guy that gets along with virtually everybody. But 327 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: he had to have teammates he didn't love. I mean, 328 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: Tom's so driven. If a guy wasn't a grinder, I mean, 329 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: were there other times you don't even have to mention 330 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: a name that Tom, you could tell he just didn't 331 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: work with certain guys. Yeah, we all go through that. 332 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: The locker room is is such a cross sectionist society. 333 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: You got, you know, all different nationalites, white, black, Hispanic, 334 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: right on down the line, all different socioeconomic backgrounds, all 335 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: different parts of the country, all different levels of religious conviction, 336 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: all different uh, you name it. It's it's in there, 337 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: and everybody's got to operate on the same page, and 338 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: and they don't all get along. It's you know, sometimes 339 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: sometimes the guy two lockers over is someone you can't stand. 340 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: And look, it's the same thing for coaching stabs. I 341 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: mean there's there's been plenty of times where you're on 342 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: a coaching staff and you got to spend twelve fourteen 343 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: hours a day with a guy and you just you, 344 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's the last thing you want to do, 345 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: the last thing you want to do. But you got 346 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to disagree without being disagreeable 347 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: and move on and just deal with it. You just 348 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: got to deal with it. Yeah, that is um. You know, 349 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: look at your two jobs, so you hire people, you 350 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: often hire ally and friends. Do you ever hire on 351 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: your step? Because I thought this year was a good 352 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: year for candidates, I didn't think it was a great 353 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: year for hires. I think you can do better than 354 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. I think David Culley is sixty seven and 355 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: never been a coordinator, probably a reason I don't think 356 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 1: those are great hires. But whatever it is, when you 357 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: construct a staff, did you ever construct it with a 358 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: guy you didn't necessarily love but you thought he added 359 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: something to the soup, something to the John belayah that 360 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: you thought, you know what, He's a little spicy, but 361 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: this staff needs it. You know, when I first got 362 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: to New York, I didn't know what to make him. 363 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: Mike Westoff, Mike is, Mike speaks his mind. He's he's 364 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: very opinionated, and you know, it can take you off guard, 365 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: especially initially. You know, I'm a young head coach and 366 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: this guy, he wasn't home back, he wasn't holding back 367 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: to the second I met him. But I was so 368 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: happy that I kept him, and I was so happy 369 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: that his personality was in the room, because what happens 370 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: when you're a head coaches everybody is hesitant to tell 371 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: you the truth. Everybody's hesitant to tell you things you 372 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: don't want to hear. And one of the greatest values 373 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: you can have are the guys that tell you exactly 374 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: how they feel. The guys that are honest because they're 375 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: gonna they're the ones that are really your friends. You know, 376 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: when you go to dinner with someone you've got spinach 377 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: and your teeth. Your friend tells you you've got spinach 378 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: and teeth, it's uncomfortable, but you really want to hear it, 379 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: you really want to know. And those you know, having 380 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: that brutal honesty in a room where it can be uncomfortable, 381 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: but it's something I really was glad a decision I 382 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: was glad I made. I need to become a great friend, 383 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's probably the most known 384 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: special team coach in the history of the sport. Oh, 385 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: he of course is. I can't think if anybody Gunther 386 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: Cunningham was for a while John Harbaugh, who I didn't 387 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: know anything about, really good. Yeah. Eric Eric Mangini joining 388 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: us in the Colin Coward podcast you know, you look 389 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: around at this time, the free agency and the draft. 390 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: So we'll get into the draft later. But free agency 391 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: is interesting because you know, when you buy a used car, 392 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 1: it may look great, but you don't really know if 393 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: those are real miles. And it's just like when you 394 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: buy a new house and somebody else has lived in it. 395 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: Every house has secrets, every house has the air conditioning 396 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: flare up, or you know there's just something that it 397 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: just drives your nuts. And when you look at free agency, 398 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: thirty three percent of free agents work more don't where 399 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: you go back to your career, go even go to 400 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: New England and your three Super Bowls? What was Bill's 401 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: view on it? Your view on it about free agents 402 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: bring it in a used car even if it's beautiful. Well, 403 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: the first thing with freeency is it's never free. It's 404 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: always you're paying way over market value for that house too, 405 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: especially early on. The value is in week two, week 406 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: three and down the line. And our approach a freeency 407 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: early in New England was we had to get value. 408 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: You know, like Mike Rabel was a free agent, but 409 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: he was a core special teams guy that we brought 410 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: in that became a really good player or player or 411 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: Larry Izzo or any of those guys. But I like 412 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: free adency so much more in the draft because if 413 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: you do your research, you can find out a lot 414 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: closer what the problems are with that house, what the 415 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: problems are with that car, because you've got friends in 416 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: the league. Odds are you've got a friend who's coached 417 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: that guy somewhere else. Odds are that guy's trustworthy enough 418 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: to tell you the pluses and minuses you get to 419 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: watch him on pro tape against other players that you know. 420 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: To me, there should be a lot more certainty in 421 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: free agency than the draft, because you know what you're 422 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: looking at and evaluating, and you typically you know people 423 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: who have dealt with the guy who should tell you 424 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: the truth. If you get surprised in freeancy, it's your fault. 425 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: It's your fault. You didn't you didn't push hard enough 426 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: to get the answers. And the draft is that's a 427 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: lot more uncertainty, a lot harder to deal with. I 428 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: remember New England went and spent some money on a 429 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: linebacker from Baltimore and it didn't. Dahlias Thomas, right, why 430 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: didn't that work? I think that didn't work because Dahlias 431 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: was from a very different family tree football wise, and 432 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: he was used to the way things Baltimore did things 433 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: did and that had been successful, and he had been successful. 434 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: But nobody cares when you get into England how you 435 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: did things in Baltimore, Nobody cares. How I do things 436 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: at Michigan nobody, he doesn't. Nobody cares. You're now a 437 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: New England patriot. This is the way we do it, 438 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: and you fall in line with the way that that 439 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: it's done. And I don't know, I'm sure that was 440 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: a shock to his system. And it's a guy who 441 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: got paid a ton of money, so you he's fairly empowered. 442 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: And it's not for everybody. It's I say that all 443 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: the time. There's no officers Club in New England. Like 444 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: if you're used to being the guy somewhere else and 445 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: you come in there and think you're gonna have that 446 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: same sort of advantage, Nope, it doesn't work that way. Listen. 447 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: I use divorce as a analogy or metaphor often because 448 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: I am divorced and it was a hard experience and 449 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from it. And I mean, listen, 450 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: Belichick's the best coach of all time, but it nobody 451 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: wants to have a divorce in your wife, Mary's George Clooney. Okay, 452 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: we're all human. I'm sure Bill would have preferred he 453 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: made the playoffs too, and Tom do have this remarkable season. 454 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: Bill's human. Bill would never say that, obviously, But do 455 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: you think Bill is a little surprised by how little 456 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: talent there is on the quarterback free agent market? How 457 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: often these players are overpaid. I mean, they have the 458 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: fifteenth pick, and nobody in the AFC's gonna do Bill 459 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: Belichick any favors and let him move up and get 460 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback of his dreams. Do you think privately Bill 461 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: would acknowledge this quarterback market? It's dicey. I've been in 462 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: this sport. He's been in this sport like thirty years, 463 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: and he's had two good ones. He's had Brady and 464 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: then with the Giants they had Bill Sims. I mean 465 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: it's he's been He's had thirty quarterbacks around him, he's 466 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: had two guys. Yeah, he's okay, But I mean I 467 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: would Bill, in a private moment acknowledge, boy, it's a 468 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: dicey world to get a quarterback. I would imagine that 469 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: when you've had something for twenty years, you can lose 470 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: appreciation for how good it is, and you can definitely 471 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: start thinking that, you know, maybe some of the things 472 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: that you did from a scheme perspective were so good 473 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: that regardless of who you plug in there, it's it's 474 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: gonna work really well. And then you you make a 475 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: change and reality sets in and you had the greatest 476 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: player in the history of football, and he helped make 477 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: a lot of things so much better. And and and 478 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, not taking away from anything Bill did with Tom, 479 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: but now, I'm sure over twenty years you who's tracking 480 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: look in being married, I've been married a long time. 481 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure my way he feels that there's some things 482 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: that I don't appreciate anymore that I should. But yeah, 483 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's gonna be hard hard to every place 484 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: that nowhere else it's gonna be hardcome is in the 485 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: locker room. The legitimacy that Tom gave Bill from a 486 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: coaching perspective, in the sense that if he's coaching Tom 487 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: Brady hard and Tom Brady's doing it, there's nobody else 488 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: in that room that's gonna say, I'm not going to 489 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: do that. But Now when you don't have Tom Brady 490 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: in that locker room anymore, it's a different dynamic. And 491 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: we don't have Tom Brady go in the locker room 492 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: and co signing on things. It's a different dynamic. And 493 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: I'd say even from a free agency perspective, like getting 494 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: guys to come to New England probably gonna be a 495 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: little harder than it used to be because you don't 496 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: have Tom Brady in the room. So it's it's a 497 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: lot of it's a lot of things that are being 498 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: affected by that. Yeah, I mean, you know, Brady is 499 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, generally in football, we appreciate what we can see. 500 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: So much of Brady's greatness is what you can't see, 501 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: the audibles. You know, I said this about Barack Obama. 502 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: He inherited a potential depression, yea, And so he doesn't 503 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: get credit for avoiding a depression because we didn't have 504 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: it right right. So you just think, well, I mean, 505 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: we were in a brief recession without the right moves 506 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: in his first year because of what he inherited in 507 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: the market. It could have been like you know, back 508 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: in our grand father's time, when I mean the food 509 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: lines were in every city in America. You don't get 510 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: credit for the disasters you avoid Brady for at least 511 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years of his career, certainly the last ten. 512 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: How many bad plays did he audible out of? You 513 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: don't know, because you did, you see right. But it's 514 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: it's not just that, it's how many disagreements did he 515 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 1: did he make sure we're avoided between the coordinator and 516 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: a disgruntled receiver or Bill and someone who's pissed off 517 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: in the locker room? And what effect did he have 518 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: getting guys to come and work that much harder because 519 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: of how hard he was working. There's all of this 520 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: this impact that you can't you can't tangibly, you know, 521 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: put put a value on, but it's real. And you 522 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: hear the guys in Tampa Bay talk about him sending 523 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: texts out the week before the Super Bowl or through 524 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs, And how do you not work hard when 525 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: the greatest player to ever play is sending your text 526 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: telling you to work? Are? Like, what, you're gonna save 527 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: those for your grandkids? Like? What else do you do? Huge? 528 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw a Mike Lombardi had 529 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: some thoughts on a column I thought were interesting. He 530 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: talked about the forty nine ers and he said, John 531 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: Lynch like Sam Darnold. He does, and John Lynch likes 532 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson even more. But if you go make 533 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: a move on Darnold and you have a chance for 534 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, you're gonna kick yourself for years. And I 535 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: thought about this. Kyle Shanahan has a history of taking 536 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: C running backs and making them B running backs, and 537 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: taking B quarterbacks and making them A quarterbacks. And so 538 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: there's no reason for John Lynch to go get a 539 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: first round pick on a running back because Kyle and 540 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan's career. This is why Belichick often moved off 541 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: to me good defensive lineman, because Belichick's always been able 542 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: to generate a pass rush even without star Russians. There's 543 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: no reason to pay for Khalil Mack. There was no 544 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: reason to pay. The Patriots always create discomfort for opposing quarterbacks, 545 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: whether they get sacks, they always create hurries. And so 546 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: my theory is Belichick has moved off pass rushers when 547 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: they get expensive because his sense is this position, this 548 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: is what I do very very well. I elevate through 549 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: my scheme Shanahan similarly, and I think to myself, you 550 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: could get Darnald right now, a CE quarterback and elevate 551 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: him with your acumen and your coaching to a BA quarterback. 552 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what Garoppolo essentially is. Darnold has more 553 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: raw tools, I think than Garoppolo and has been healthier. 554 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: So why go get an a quarterback, give up three 555 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: or four first round picks maybe starters, when Garoppolo and 556 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: Darnald are similar and you already got to a super 557 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: Bowl with Garoppolo. That kind of reasoning if you were, 558 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, the way coaches think sometimes just your thoughts 559 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: on my opinion there, Yeah, it's it's gonna be. How 560 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: much better is it? Even the guy you have, so 561 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 1: is Donald's going to be a significant upgrade over Garoppolo? 562 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: And you could, you know, depends on how the building feels. 563 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: You can probably make arguments either way. But Garoppolo's done 564 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: more than than Donald has. But when you have a 565 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: chance to go get an elite guy, if your scheme 566 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: and your ability is already taken the B or the 567 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: ceas and turning them into bees, and then you get 568 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: an a think about the impact that can have. So 569 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: and I don't think bills necessarily come off pass rushers. 570 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: You know, probably values flexibility more than one just skill set, 571 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: and I think that that can be a limiting factor. 572 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: But from a coaching perspective, if you can go get 573 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 1: an A knowing that your scheme and the things that 574 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: you do has a chance to elevate that guy to 575 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: an A plus or make you, you know, snificantly explosive, 576 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: the greatest show on turf that you know that those 577 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: type of numbers and be hard not to get into 578 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: that mix. Yeah, especially Yeah, the Shaun's good dude. Yeah, 579 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: you know, listen, it's always been you know this. I 580 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: it's funny. I was thinking about this the other day. 581 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: I had a commentary where he said the Boston Celtics 582 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: have become the green Bay Packers is that they live 583 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: below their means. They put money away in the four 584 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: oh one K. They draft and develop very well, but 585 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: they're safe. They're a little safe. I mean, let's face it, 586 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: green Bay could get J. J. Watt. You have to 587 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: manipulate the cap. Everybody manipulates the cap. You can figure 588 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: out ways to manipulate the cap. And in the end, 589 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: the Packers have one Super Bowl in fifteen years and 590 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics keep getting to the Eastern Conference Finals. 591 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: But Brooklyn goes out and gets Kevin Durrett and I 592 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: Ree Irving and James Harden and now Boston looks like like, uh, 593 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, a third tier club and what is how 594 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: do you reconcile the balance between draft well, develop, be smart, 595 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: put your money away four oh one k and sometimes fuck, 596 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: you just gotta go for it. You gotta do somebody 597 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: the Rams with Stafford, We're just gonna go for it. 598 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna get better. How do you as a as 599 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: a smart guy, Well that when you look at their 600 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: success over the last four or five years, how many 601 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: times have they been in the NFC Championship Game three? 602 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty impressive. And I know it's not 603 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: not winning the Super Bowl, but to be in a 604 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: position every single year where you can compete for a 605 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs and then be you know, to go deep 606 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. That's really what every organization wants. Now, 607 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback in the first round when you've got 608 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and you know he's gonna be there for 609 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: two or three years, that's a four o one kay 610 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: And you could sit back and say, well, what if 611 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: they had done something explosive with that pick that could 612 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: have helped this year, would have made the difference. And yeah, 613 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: I mean because my argument, Eric is, we have to 614 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: be honest about windows, because as you know, in the NFL, 615 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: you've got certain salaries, certain guys are gonna leave. Aaron 616 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: Jones now may leave. Could I not make the argument, Okay, 617 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: this window here with Davante Adams, you can afford Davanta Adams, 618 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones and Aaron Rodgers that window. Maybe two years 619 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: you may be out of that window. I could argue, 620 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, say, was your free agent last year? You 621 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,479 Speaker 1: already released him? Like if it's like you're getting guys 622 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: that are like C B guys, I mean, Preston Smith, 623 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: good player. But when you get a Davante Adams and 624 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Jones and that old line boy 625 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: that that that you may never get a player as 626 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: good as Davanta on the outside. Right, Yeah, but you've 627 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: also got the luxury of having Aaron Rodgers, who took 628 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: over for Brett Farve. They've had they they've had the 629 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: biggest piece of this puzzle for a long time in 630 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: terms of outstanding quarterback play. Now, you could also say 631 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: that the decision last year was a little bit of 632 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: a shot to Rogers. You know, Aaron was very strong. 633 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: You had a rookie head coach. He obviously was responsible 634 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: for a significant amount of their success, if not overcoming 635 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: rookie head coaching, and to draft a quarterbacks a little 636 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: bit of shots fired in terms of saying the organization 637 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: is bigger than you and everybody is replaceable, and that's 638 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, obviously they see something unique in the in 639 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: the talent, but it's a pretty strong message too with 640 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: a guy like Aaron Rodgers with that much amount of 641 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: contract And did that did that motivate him? Did that 642 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: change him? Did that give him something that pushed him 643 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: that much harder this year? I don't know. I think 644 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: people are what they are. I mean, like Aaron is 645 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: what he is. He's always been a little cocky. I 646 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,479 Speaker 1: read those stories about he used to poke Brett Farve 647 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: in the ribs. I think sometimes I think sometimes Green 648 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: Bay is trying to fix Aaron Rodgers. And my takeaway 649 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: is Aaron's his his DNA, his genetic makeup, his family background. 650 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: You're not gonna fix him, like Tom Brady comes to you. 651 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,479 Speaker 1: And this is not to say that Bill Belichick doesn't 652 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: get some credit, but Tom Brady's parents get a lot 653 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: of the credit. He's a good kid, and Aaron Rodgers 654 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: is cocky and can struggle with his own family. You're 655 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: not gonna fix that. That's just who he is. No, 656 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't think. I'm not arguing you're gonna fix it. 657 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: But when you put someone behind him, when you when 658 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: you bring in someone that that's a legitimate competition, That 659 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily fix someone, but it does. It does typically 660 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: light a fire. You know, you may you're just saying, 661 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: all right, we're not going to fix you, but we're 662 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: going to find an alternative to you if you don't 663 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: want to do what we're asking you to do. You know, 664 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: it's you know, because someone who's unfixable and empowered, they're 665 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: a nightmare. Yeah, you ever had one of those guys. 666 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 1: We've all we've all had those guys. I learned a 667 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: long time ago that you want to pay not just 668 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: your best players, but your best people. Now, it's different 669 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: than other sports because you can get out of NFL 670 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: contracts easier. But when you when you've paid a guy, 671 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of money and he's you know, not a 672 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: great guy and empowered. Terrible, terrible because it finds don't 673 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: mean anything. Nothing, nothing means anything. By the way, you 674 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: want my take on UFOs, I would love I would 675 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: love your take on UFOs. So I don't I don't 676 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: believe them. I believe in them and what I think 677 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: they are are two things. First of all, space junk. 678 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: When you get away from cities and you don't have 679 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: light pollution and you go out to the country, you 680 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: can see everything in the sky and there's falling stars 681 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: and there's debris, and there's space junk and it flies through. 682 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: In college in Eastern Washington University, I was going to 683 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: Spokane from Cheney with six guys. Dan Shelton was one 684 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: of the guys. Brent Weaker was one of the guys. 685 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: Jeff Bradberry was one of the guys. We were driving 686 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: my car, a Buick like in nineteen sixty five Buick, 687 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 1: and we turned and looked to the right. True story, 688 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: we turned and looked to the right, and in the 689 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: night sky Saturday night, there was a slow moving it 690 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: looked like it was it was. It wasn't a comic comet. 691 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: It was twenty times the size of a comet, and 692 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: it was moving to the right of the sky. We no, 693 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 1: we were all twenty one. So here's the funny thing. Yep. 694 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: We hadn't had a drink yet, not yet, So so 695 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: what was it? So I always figured it was just 696 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, who knows. Thirty years later, I am watching 697 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: Hugh Downs Barbara Walters. It's like twenty twenty. It was 698 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: a news magazine and I don't know exactly what the 699 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,959 Speaker 1: story was, but they told this story of this rock 700 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: that came and banged into a car in Pennsylvania, and 701 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: they told about this story. It was a story about 702 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: stuff that falls out of the sky. And they gave 703 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: the date on it and they said it was back 704 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: in you know, nineteen ninety one or whatever it was, 705 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: and that was the year. So it was so I 706 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: literally was watching it and I'm like I went to 707 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: the internet and I'm like, wait a minute, and it 708 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: was about that time of the year. It was the 709 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: same year, so I was watching. It was a big 710 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean, as anything goes through the atmosphere, it shrinks 711 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 1: because it burns off and it's still destroyed. A car 712 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania that's how big it was. So I believe, 713 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: first of all, most of it is space junk. The 714 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: second thing I think is that the other half of 715 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: it is our government testing stuff. They're trying to keep 716 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,479 Speaker 1: it covert and hidden, but you can't in America because 717 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: everybody's got a phone. And I think that because when 718 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: I used to work in Las Vegas, there was a 719 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: reporter named Dan Burns, and he kept having these sightings 720 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: for two years from these triangular things, and we all 721 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: thought he was out of his gourd, and he's like, 722 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: I've been doing this for twenty years. Something's going on. 723 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: It became the stealth. Oh really, the stealth was black, 724 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: didn't get picked up by radar, and in Nevada they 725 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: were testing it all over the desert and if you 726 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: saw it, it looked like a space ship. And so 727 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: about two or three years later they started flying it 728 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: over football games and it was used in a war 729 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. So that's my theory. It's space junk, 730 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: or it's military aircraft or military experiments trying to become 731 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, wartime defense mechanisms for our country. Yeah, what 732 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: do you have a theory on SpaceX has? What a 733 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: thousand satellites in the air right now, and they're gonna 734 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: and they're gonna add like another however many thousand. Thinking 735 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 1: about how many countries are putting satellites in the air, 736 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: Think about the volume of drones that exists now, and 737 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: that the level of drone testing because they're going to 738 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: use it for Amazon delivery and everything else. And I 739 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: would imagine if there was a UFO, if there was 740 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: somebody visiting this planet, you would think they'd go to 741 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: one of the city centers, you know, right New York, LA, 742 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: you know one of the where where was this scene? 743 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: Where was where is Baker's sighting? Is that in a 744 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: big city or it was like over a lake in 745 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: Austin in Texas? Yeah, I think I think they might 746 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: want to push towards bigger city that. I would think 747 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,919 Speaker 1: if they had figured out a way to visit Earth, 748 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: to be covert to that, they probably want to check 749 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: out the most accident I always get. I get very 750 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: defensive when they assure me that if there is life 751 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: beyond our planet, it's always smarter than us, And I'm like, well, 752 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, We're pretty smart, aren't we. We create 753 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: all this stuff, all these spaceships. How do we know 754 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: there's a planet out there and it's just full of 755 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: mouth breathers. You know, I don't know what the hell 756 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: they're doing. So you saw recently that they're going to 757 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 1: have that that hotel in space right in like twenty 758 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: twenty seven? Is that going to be part of not interested? 759 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't even I gotta be honest with you. The 760 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: only good thing about hotels is you can order room service. 761 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: That's what I love about hotels. The rest of it. 762 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: I've been standing in one for three weeks now because 763 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 1: I'm moving houses. It's lonely and sad. So why would 764 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: I want to go to a space hotel? I can 765 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: barely tolerate the ones here here. Well, what would you 766 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: do if your wife says, Hey, this is something I've 767 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: always wanted to do. I really want to share this 768 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: experience with you. Let's go do this. I'd say, you 769 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: know what, sweetheart, why don't you go first? Come back 770 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: and tell me how it went. I can't wait to 771 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: hear that conversation. All right, coach, great talking, This is fun. 772 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: I like your hotel room and it's nice. It's not 773 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: that nice. I mean, it's it's a nice hotel. But 774 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's I don't have my dogs, I 775 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: don't have my kids, I don't have my my wife 776 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: to hang out with. You don't want to drink alone 777 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: in a hotel, No, that's a problem. And it's not 778 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: like you're getting man. You can go outside. But I'm 779 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: sure that it's just it's just such a different experience 780 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: with COVID too, where everything's compressed. Yeah, all right, buddy, goody, 781 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: great talking to all right everybody. We hope you enjoyed 782 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: our Extra Terrestrial Colin Coward podcast with Eric Mangini. Remember 783 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: follow us on social media at the volume. 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