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Speaker 3: I refuse to get rid of the watch from my

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Speaker 3: ex and my girlfriend's unhappy.

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Speaker 4: I like it. It's a nice watch.

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Speaker 3: When I currently twenty nine, mail was still dating my

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Speaker 3: ex girlfriend, she gifted me a nice watch on my

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Speaker 3: twenty fifth birthday. For some context, her employer paid her

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Speaker 3: a salary of ninety two k per year, plus a

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Speaker 3: living allowance as she often traveled for work. They provided

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Speaker 3: her with a company vehicle, phone, and the allowance covered

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Speaker 3: her rent or hotel and food. So with most of

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Speaker 3: her basic living expenses being covered, she had a lot

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Speaker 3: of disposable income and had amassed significant savings. By the way,

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Speaker 4: I'm Carly's, I'm Sophia, I'm Keon.

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Speaker 3: And we're here to give good advice goofully. But we

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Speaker 3: don't have all the answers. We only know what we

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Speaker 3: would do, so let us know what you would do

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Speaker 3: in the comments. The watch she bought was by no

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Speaker 3: means a Rolex, but I believe it was a couple.

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Speaker 2: Thousand dollars Rolex.

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Speaker 3: But it is the only nice watch I own, my

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Speaker 3: other watches being a cheap TIMEX from when I was

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Speaker 3: in college and an Apple Watch. Fast forward to a

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Speaker 3: year and a half and we ended up breaking up.

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Speaker 3: Her company ended up moving its base of operations to

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Speaker 3: a different city, and she was only able to visit

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Speaker 3: by flying here on weekends and it just wasn't working.

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Speaker 4: She did ask for the watch back, but I said no.

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Speaker 3: Now, my current girlfriend, twenty six female who I've been

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Speaker 3: dating now for just over a year, seems to have

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Speaker 3: a problem with the watch.

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Speaker 4: I don't wear it.

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Speaker 3: Often, usually only on special occasions. She's brought up before

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Speaker 3: that I should sell the watch for some extra cash,

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Speaker 3: but like I said before, it's my only nice watch.

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Speaker 3: Last weekend, we went out to celebrate our first anniversary.

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Speaker 3: We got dressed up and went to a nice restaurant

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Speaker 3: and I wore my watch. She didn't notice until we

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Speaker 3: got to the restaurant and sat down. When she saw it,

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Speaker 3: she immediately asked why I wore it. I asked why

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't since we were getting dressed up nicely, Why

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Speaker 3: shouldn't I wear my nicest watch and only piece of jewelry.

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Speaker 3: She said, it's disrespectful to be wearing something gifted to

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Speaker 3: me by my ex while celebrating our anniversary. I don't

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Speaker 3: cherish the watch because of who gave it to me.

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Speaker 3: I have no emotional or sentimental feelings about the watch.

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Speaker 3: It's just a nice watch that I'd never be able

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Speaker 3: to afford on what I make. I took the watch

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Speaker 3: off at this point and slipped it into my pocket

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Speaker 3: to try to save the evening, but it ruined her

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Speaker 3: mood for the night. She wasn't interested in conversation and

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Speaker 3: was short with everything. She said to me, silent on

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Speaker 3: the drive home, and then a imediately went to bed.

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Speaker 3: I asked her the next day why the watch bothered

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Speaker 3: her so much when it has no emotional significance to me.

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Speaker 3: She just said she didn't want to talk about the

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Speaker 3: the next day, she got over it, but now I

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Speaker 3: we go out together. For some additional context, she has

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Speaker 3: expressed that she doesn't like my ex. As we broke

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Speaker 4: I was like, why would she like your ex? But

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Speaker 4: then it's because you're You're still okay with her.

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Speaker 3: I guess their breakup wasn't messy. It was just a

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Speaker 3: matter of circumstances. We both were unhappy and it was

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Speaker 3: nobody's fault. When my current girlfriend and I got together,

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Speaker 3: she said she didn't want me texting with my ex,

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Speaker 3: who I still considered a friend, and asked to look

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Speaker 3: through our previous conversations, which I allowed and then stopped

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Speaker 3: texting her. She always seemed insecure about my previous relationship,

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Speaker 3: it and use the money put forward to a different

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Speaker 3: nice watch. I'm not sure if watches retain value well

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Speaker 3: enough for it to be worth that, but even so,

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Speaker 3: I feel like the new watch would still indirectly be

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Speaker 3: do I just put it in a box and stick

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Speaker 3: it in the back of our closet. Some relevant comments

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Speaker 3: comment are one not the ahole. These are her insecurities

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Speaker 3: that she is allowing to rule your relationship together. You

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Speaker 3: clearly are not dwelling on this past relationship, and you

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Speaker 3: have already made reasonable and honestly unreasonable accommodations for her discomfort.

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Speaker 3: I understand current partners not wanting active communication between x'es,

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Speaker 3: but why did she need to look through your messages?

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Speaker 3: That's an invasion of privacy and a lack of trust

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Speaker 3: on her part. I would personally find that very disrespectful.

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Speaker 4: Keep your watch.

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Speaker 3: If it continues to be an issue, y'all then need

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Speaker 3: to think about couples therap to work this out. OPI responds,

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Speaker 3: I think she just wanted to see that our relationship

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Speaker 3: was really over. Parting on good terms and still regularly

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Speaker 3: talking to your ex is a concern. I can understand

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Speaker 3: nothing to really hide there cost me nothing that I

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Speaker 3: care about to let her look through the messages. I'm

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Speaker 3: not a fan of asking to go through a phone,

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Speaker 3: but I could understand why she might be concerned. Early

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Speaker 3: on in our relationship, but now it just feels unnecessary.

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Speaker 3: Commenter two says, not the a hole, But if you

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Speaker 3: just like it because it's expensive, you could probably sell

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Speaker 3: and buy one that you pick out and like better

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Speaker 3: and solve your issue, well, at least partially. If you

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Speaker 3: actually love the design, then tough cookies for your girlfriend. Regardless,

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Speaker 3: she needs to learn to get over your friendship of

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Speaker 3: resentment and will just keep building. Still, I can see

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Speaker 3: why she'd not be thrilled with you keeping a relationship

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Speaker 3: with the ex you'd still be with if she didn't

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Speaker 3: move away. Opie responds, that's just it. I understand her

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Speaker 3: not wanting me talking to my ex, given we were

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Speaker 3: still close after our breakup. I do like the design

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Speaker 3: of the watch, and not just the price. I admittedly

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Speaker 3: have bad taste, so I'm hesitant to drop money on

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Speaker 4: Ha ha ha. Commentar three.

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Speaker 3: If you are still in communication with your ex, then yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't blame her for feeling insecure. You're not making

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Speaker 3: I think it's been long enough that it really shouldn't matter,

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Speaker 3: especially because you like the watch, not because your X

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Speaker 3: gives its meaning, but because it is a luxury piece.

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Speaker 3: Even if you bought a new watch by selling your

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Speaker 3: is it somehow still ties back to your ex? It

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Speaker 3: really doesn't make sense to me personally to get so

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Speaker 3: of the simple fact your ex picked it out for you.

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Speaker 3: She is definitely insecure, and I do not believe you

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Speaker 3: were in the wrong. I also want to know how

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Speaker 3: you presented this watch the first time your girlfriend saw it?

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Speaker 2: Was it like, this is the watch my ex bought me?

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Speaker 4: Isn't it multiple thousands of dollars? Isn't it beautiful? IX

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Speaker 4: spend thousands of donas on me and you've spent how much?

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Speaker 3: Opie responds, I don't talk to my ex. After she

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Speaker 3: ex one message, which I told her about beforehand, and

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Speaker 3: me and wondering why I wasn't replying. And we haven't

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Speaker 3: spoken since Opie responds to a downvoted comment on lying

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Speaker 4: About where he got his watch.

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Speaker 3: Opie says, I'm the a hole because I didn't lie

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Speaker 3: fifty four KA year salary. And who else would buy

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Speaker 3: me a couple thousand dollars watch. It would literally never

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Speaker 3: And like I said, maybe I will sell it. I'll

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Speaker 3: be looking into it to see pom under four. I

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Speaker 3: really don't understand why a woman wants to go through

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Speaker 3: your messages with your ex and you think, yep, this

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Speaker 3: can't even wear a watch without her getting jealous or insecure.

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Speaker 3: She dislikes your ex because you ended on good terms,

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Speaker 3: not because she hurt you or broke your heart and

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Speaker 3: That's wildly immature and toxic. I can't imagine this is

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Speaker 3: the only aspect she acts like this in Are you

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Speaker 3: I hope these things you've mentioned are isolated incidents that,

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Speaker 3: for some reason your girlfriend just has a weird trigger

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Speaker 3: with your ex, but that usually isn't the case. Ope,

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Speaker 3: he responds, I get where you're coming from, but I

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Speaker 3: But we moved on as friends, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: Just to be clear, we had a very clear conversation

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Speaker 3: understanding why she's so upset over just a watch. Op

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Speaker 3: On what kind of watch it is? Opie says, it's

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Speaker 3: an Omega watch. I'd have to get it out and

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Speaker 3: look at it to remember what kind it is. Well,

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Speaker 3: get it out and look at it, op oh Loo.

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Speaker 3: All I know is it was expensive and way out

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Speaker 4: Hahaha. OPI.

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Speaker 3: On the cost of the watch and his earnings, Opie says,

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Speaker 3: the watch cost thousands of dollars and I make under

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Speaker 3: If my car suddenly needed one thousand dollars worth of work,

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Speaker 3: I'd be in a tough spot. IDK didn't seem weird

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Speaker 3: to me to wonder why someone basically living paycheck to

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Speaker 3: paycheck has a fancy watch. We have an update four

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Speaker 3: days later. Before I get to the update, I want

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Speaker 3: to thank you guys for the advice. It seems like

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Speaker 3: a lot of you hit the nail on the head

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Speaker 3: with the insecurity posing a problem. Also, there is one

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Speaker 3: thing I want to clarify that a lot of people

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Speaker 3: see to be incorrectly assuming from my original post. A

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Speaker 3: lot of people are saying I shouldn't have worn it

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Speaker 4: But that's just it.

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Speaker 3: She never voiced a problem with the watch before this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then how would you have known?

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Speaker 3: It was always framed as a financial suggestion. Now I

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Speaker 3: After accusing me of still loving my ex, she asked

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Speaker 2: the nose of a coonhound, which just cracked me up.

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Speaker 6: I like this side story.

441
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: It turned out that they were in their RV and

442
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 2: she invited me to sit in their ac until I

443
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 2: got my issues figured out. It turns out they were

444
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 2: some of the nicest people I've ever met.

445
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 7: Dude, of course, they are there in an RV checking

446
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 7: out National Park.

447
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 2: Old lady RV Grandpa campers from their RV is where.

448
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 2: I called the National Parks ranger and they sent a

449
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 2: ranger out. Was really hoping they would show up about

450
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 2: the same time my ex got back, but unfortunately he

451
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: got back first, looked around the parking lot for me

452
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 2: for a while and texted me that I was a

453
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,239
Speaker 2: stupid witch and he was really leaving. I told him

454
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 2: to please go. The rangers got there and we talked

455
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: for a long time about the damage that was done,

456
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 2: where it was, why he had done it.

457
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 4: Et cetera.

458
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 2: I was kind of hoping they'd chase him down the highway,

459
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 2: but they said that unfortunately, they don't really do that

460
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. However, they would send someone to investigate

461
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 2: the damage, and if it's bad enough, they can submit

462
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 2: a federal arrest warrant and either the NPS or even

463
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 2: the FBI might pay him a visit. You're sick in

464
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: the federal goon squad on this guy, and honestly I

465
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 2: don't care.

466
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, FBI really be getting into a lot of things.

467
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 7: They're like getting into sports nowadays, like the National Park.

468
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 2: The ranger said that this kind of stuff happens way

469
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: more than they'd like, and almost always they have enough

470
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: evidence and the penalties are stiff enough that the guilty

471
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 2: person usually makes a plea deal and pays a pretty

472
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 2: big fine. It makes me happy that he most likely

473
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: won't get away with it. The people in the RV

474
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 2: were so nice. They said that even though the airport

475
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: I was flying out of was one hundred and fifty

476
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: miles in the opposite direction of where they were going,

477
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: they would be happy to give me a ride. I

478
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 2: literally fell in love with these people. Their whole reason

479
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: for being in an RV is to see the national

480
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 2: parks and to eat as many different outpack steakhouses as

481
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 2: they can across the country. Some people do that that's

482
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: gotta be one of the top American things you can do.

483
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: Be like, I want to see every National park and

484
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: I want to eat it, every single one of a

485
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 2: chain restaurant.

486
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've met people like this before. I was working

487
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 7: at like this chain restaurant, Like, yeah, dude, we love

488
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 7: coming to this place. I've been to this one and

489
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 7: this one of this one, and we're about to hit

490
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 7: the one there. It's like a regional chain restaurant, so

491
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 7: it's not like a yeah, you know, house of waffles.

492
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 7: It was like so, I was like you but really so.

493
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 2: They were super excited that the city we were going

494
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 2: to had different outbacks they could check off their list.

495
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: Oh They're like, wait, where'd you say you're flying out

496
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: of oh.

497
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 6: Pa, Dude, we actually need those.

498
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 2: We're gonna hit the outback on the east side and

499
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: the west side. They even took me to get an

500
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 2: early dinner with them before dropping me off at the airport.

501
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 2: They were so sweet. They insisted on giving me a

502
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars bill to make sure I had money

503
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: for an emergency. They're going to stay in touch and

504
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: maybe even come to see me at the end of

505
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: the summer, and yes, eat at the outback in town.

506
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 2: So that's really it. I'm sick about introducing my ex

507
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 2: to backpacking and confirming he's a piece of crap by

508
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 2: doing damage to irreplaceable art and nature, but I'm so

509
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 2: glad I'm safe. I dropped a whole bunch of extra

510
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: weight aka my ex boyfriend and got some awesome honorary

511
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: grandparents out of it. We have some comments to finish

512
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: it off. I know this started off as a fairly

513
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 2: crappy situation to be in, says the Mockingbird, But good god,

514
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: those people sound wholesome. Af retired older people living life

515
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: really are the best. Glad you managed to get out

516
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: of this mess and actually relax a bit before flying out,

517
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: Opie replies, I know they were so charming. They got

518
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: married during college, share each other's passions, and laughed the

519
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: whole time they were together. They've given me a model

520
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 2: for what I want out of a relationship. While Waka

521
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: says legit, question, are all outback steakhouses not practically identical?

522
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 2: Isn't it a chain?

523
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 6: Do you not know there's a different Australian in each

524
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 6: one of them.

525
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: They got one Australian for each restaurant and.

526
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 4: They're all different.

527
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: Also, OPM, glad you're in a good place and away

528
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: from that wiener. But seriously, I need to know about

529
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: that outback steakhouse. Op says, I've actually only ever eaten

530
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: there with them, and it was really good. But yes,

531
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: they love that they get the exact same meal in

532
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: Florida that they do in Seattle. It was just so

533
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: cute to see them. They literally knew more about outback

534
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 2: than the man did. Evil Lurker says, how are there

535
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 2: guys like this out there anger and destruction issues? Where

536
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: do they come from and how do they continue to

537
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: find girlfriends? Ugh, glad you made it out. Okay, the

538
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 2: old couple sounds super cute. I love the hound scent. Joe,

539
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: hope this didn't spoil your love for hiking, and you're

540
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: able to get out there soon with a new boyfriend

541
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: to share it with. Good luck. Opie replies, that's the

542
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: good thing is I'd only been dating him about six weeks.

543
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it was the vid loneliness.

544
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: He was friends of friends, and he talked a much

545
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: bigger game about being into the stuff I was into

546
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: than he actually was. Esson learned for sure. Dark Pixie

547
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: one says, it's sad that probably nothing will be done

548
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: about the destruction of our national property. I sure would

549
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: like the idiot to be punished, but at least you

550
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: got rid of him. Opie replies. The ranger said, they

551
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: actually take it very seriously, so they will do all

552
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,239
Speaker 2: they can. And he said most people are caught if

553
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: there's a witness, and that is the end of that story.

554
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 6: I mean, I just like the grandparents in this story.

555
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: Yes, honorary adoptive grandparents.

556
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: I heard my roommates talking bad about me, so I confirms,

557
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 4: then break the lease. I twenty female, live with three

558
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 4: boys twenty to twenty four male and one other girl.

559
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 4: Up until this point, we were all pretty friendly. Yesterday

560
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 4: I overheard the three guys talking downstairs. I don't think

561
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 4: they knew I was home. They were talking about how

562
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 4: sluty I dressed and laughing. One of them said, I

563
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 4: must be so desperate to hook up with one of them. Honestly,

564
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 4: break the lease, and they were making jokes about which

565
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 4: one of them it is. By the way, this comes

566
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 4: from Sluty Girl fifty five. And if you want to

567
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 4: smit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay

568
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 4: storytime supered It. I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, and we're here

569
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 4: to give good advice schofully, But we don't have all

570
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 4: the answers. We only know what we'd do, So let

571
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 4: us know what you would do in the comments, and

572
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 4: Op says, I'm so upset. I generally wear shorts and

573
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 4: a tank top around the house just because they're comfortable.

574
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 4: Sometimes when it's hot, I'll wear crop tops. I don't

575
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: purposely dress schmacksy. Just picture your standard H and M

576
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 4: or Forever twenty one outfit. I've seen the guys walking

577
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 4: around downstairs in boxers or with their shirts off. It

578
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 4: wasn't a big deal to me, so I just assumed

579
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: we were all cool. Why is it okay for them

580
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 4: to be in their underwear but not for me to

581
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 4: wear my everyday clothes. Additionally, one of them has a

582
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 4: girlfriend who dresses exactly the same, if not more revealing

583
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 4: than me. Very low cut shirts, short shorts, etc. It's

584
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 4: totally fine that she dresses this way, but I don't

585
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: get why she's fine. But I'm a sloop because he's

586
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 4: dating her, and they all see you as a romantic

587
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 4: or sexual object. That's why they're bringing it up. And

588
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 4: it's not okay. And here's the kurve. I'm in a

589
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: long distance relationship with my girlfriend because I'm attracted to

590
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 4: the same gender. What do I do? I don't feel

591
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: like I'm in the wrong, but I'm so uncomfortable with

592
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 4: the idea of being around them, knowing that they're thinking

593
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 4: about how much of a salute I am and how

594
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: I'm desperately trying to spicily attract them and there are

595
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 4: some relevant comments, but uh, what do you think.

596
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 5: I honestly think can confronting is like the way to

597
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: go because it is interesting to see and and this

598
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 5: can happen to anybody, but I think particularly with males

599
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 5: and male friend groups, it is genuinely interesting to see

600
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 5: what they will say and how they will behave with

601
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 5: each other exactly versus when they're not like all hyping

602
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 5: each other up, and it's like what's happening is not

603
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 5: acceptable anyway, and you need to make that clear. But

604
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 5: it's also like sometimes I do think that they kind

605
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 5: of need that reality check that is somebody just being like, hey,

606
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 5: that was that hurt at all?

607
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: And like that made me uncomfortable to kind of.

608
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 5: Get them out of their like locker talk, ha ha,

609
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 5: we're all just joking around. Yeah ooh, we actually like

610
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 5: made someone not.

611
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: Feel absolutely even if that like, I think you still

612
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 4: have the right and maybe should leave this place. But

613
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 4: I think that you know, just having that moment where

614
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 4: you're like that was not okay, Like call them out,

615
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: make them feel bad, make them feel as uncomfortable as

616
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 4: they made you feel. Yeah, deleted says I think next

617
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 4: time you see one of them in boxers or shirtless.

618
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 4: You should say, dude, you're dressing pretty sluty today. That's

619
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 4: so funny. You must be so desperate to hook up

620
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: with someone in the house. Who is it? Then when

621
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: they look at you like you grew two heads, laugh

622
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: and for them they're gross. But you don't give enough,

623
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: because you wouldn't sleep with snickering, spineless morons even if

624
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 4: you were into men. I let other people give actual

625
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 4: good advice, but a lot of what's been offered so

626
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 4: far seems to be along the lines if boys will

627
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 4: be boys? Who's offering that with a helpful side of

628
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 4: order with maybe you do, Joe Sluty. It's pretty sad

629
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: that it's plumb normal for men to objectify and mean

630
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 4: women who are meant to be their friends. I wouldn't

631
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: be friends with people who talk about me this way

632
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 4: at it. Maybe I was a bit vitriolic in the post,

633
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: but the situation ground my gears not over tonight says

634
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 4: are you willing to confront them? If you are, I

635
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: think you should approach them and say, hey, everyone, I

636
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: overheard you yesterday. You guys have a problem with the

637
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: way I dress. I'm pretty conservative, but your outfits don't

638
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: sound bad to the shorts cover your stuff, no cheeks

639
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: hanging out to the tops have a decent amount of coverage.

640
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: YadA YadA, Op says, ahha, yes, my lumps are completely covered.

641
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 4: I have a bunch of the standard H and M

642
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: tank tops. Not sure if links are allowedier, but if

643
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: you google it, it's the first result, which actually have

644
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: very thick straps and are relatively not revealing in the

645
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 4: front air back department. I also wear these outfits when

646
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: I go out to class, et cetera, and no one's

647
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 4: ever had a problem with it. No parents have covered

648
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: their children's eyes when I walk past. I guess the

649
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: mature thing would be to confront them, but the idea

650
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 4: kind of stresses me out. Maybe because there are three

651
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: of them and only one of me. That's a fair thing,

652
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: that's super fair. And also you already know that you

653
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: know they're thinking about you in this way. I think

654
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 4: if you had someone that you could bring with you,

655
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 4: a person that you trusted.

656
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 5: Or even like, I wonder too, if there's one that

657
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 5: you know or trust more than every other them, like

658
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 5: pulling them aside and like hey, like I overheard this, Yeah,

659
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 5: And then you're not dealing with all three of ones exactly. Yeah,

660
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 5: and maybe I think, kind of going back to your point,

661
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 5: I think there are times, not that this excuses it,

662
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 5: but I think there are times when someone kind of

663
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 5: jumps on the bandwagon and isn't necessarily the leader in

664
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 5: that conversation.

665
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, maybe there is someone that you could be

666
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: like that was not okay. Maybe if it happens again,

667
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 4: I'll bring it up. Thanks for the advice, though, Vana says,

668
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: what does your female roommate think of all this? She'd

669
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 4: be good backup to have on your side when you

670
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: confront these a holes. Oh, he says, God, I don't

671
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: even know if I can confront them. I didn't do anything,

672
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: but I'm still so embarrassed about the whole situation. I

673
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 4: haven't talked to her about it, but I might tomorrow.

674
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: We're not super close, but maybe she'd be sympathetic. But

675
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 4: there is an update three days later. But I think

676
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 4: that you can't just let this pass. This is not normal.

677
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 5: Behavior because and it's for multiple reasons. So like you said, hey,

678
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 5: you don't want it to get worse, Like you don't

679
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 5: want to wait to see what the escalation of this

680
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 5: is that's frightening.

681
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: But there is an update. Three days later, before I posted,

682
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: I was basically set on hiding awkwardly in my room

683
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 4: or maybe dressing more conservatively. When I left my room,

684
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: no no, After I saw all all your responses, I

685
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: was filled with feminist body positivity rage. These boys were

686
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: not going to get away with slute shaming me, nor

687
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: should they. Of the three guys, I'm closest with Tom

688
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: Boy one of three, so I decided to talk to

689
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: him individually. Look at you go, they're giving advice that

690
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: they're taking. I heard him coming up the stairs and

691
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 4: I just took up deep breath and walked out of

692
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 4: my room smiled, and asked if I could talk to

693
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 4: him for a minute. He came into my room and

694
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: we were just making small talk. I shut the door,

695
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: summoned all of my assertiveness and said, so, I actually

696
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: have something weird to talk to you about. I heard

697
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: you guys talking about me the other day. I'd like

698
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 4: to say that I threw down with this boy, that

699
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: I told him that sexism is not cool or funny

700
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: and I won't put up with it and demand that

701
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: he apologized. But instead I cried a lot. Me too,

702
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: those so bad. I mean, these people betrayed your trust

703
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: and made you indemeaned you. It's fair. Crying is a

704
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 4: normal response. I straight up just broke down. I couldn't

705
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: even speak. Tom looked absolutely devastated. He immediately apologized, said,

706
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 4: I wasn't supposed to hear any of that, but I

707
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: wasn't really paying attention because I was just trying to

708
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: get a grip on myself. There's nothing more awkward than

709
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 4: crying in front of someone when you're not on that

710
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 4: level yet. Anyway, I asked him if that was really

711
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: what he thought of me. He said no, that they're

712
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 4: just being dumb, and that when Sam Boy two of

713
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: three brought it up, he was really surprised and knew

714
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: it was wrong, but he didn't call him out on it.

715
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: And Sam's probably intracted topy. That's probably like, you know

716
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: where that's coming from. He's into her, knows that she

717
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: can't be and it will never be, and is therefore

718
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: trying to bring her down. That's my reading, yeah.

719
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 5: Or or like trying to bring down or I wonder

720
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 5: how much it's also to like, this feels like a

721
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: safe thing to joke about, because you know it's not

722
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 5: a thing. So like even just from like oh, well

723
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 5: it's fine because it's not. I will also say, like,

724
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 5: just take this as an opportunity. I feel like every

725
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 5: not to get preachy on the channel, but like, I

726
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 5: don't know, it is hard to call somebody out when

727
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 5: somebody says something that's uncomfortable, But like, I feel like

728
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 5: this is a really good lesson to everybody, like us

729
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 5: included of like, man, people will surprise you. Yeah, how

730
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 5: many times, like just just a simple like ah, I

731
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 5: don't like that.

732
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: That's usually what I do.

733
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 5: That's mine is like I'm like, nah, I didn't like that.

734
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: He said he should have, and he knew he should have,

735
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: but he didn't want to make a big deal about

736
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: it because Sam and Bob Boy three or three were

737
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: just joking around even though they were being mean. He

738
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: said it was crappy of him not to call them out,

739
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: and that by not saying saying anything and acting like

740
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: it was funny, he allowed it to happen. He said

741
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: that he has no excuse and he's sorry. This checks

742
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: out from what I heard. It was mainly Sam and

743
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: Bob saying the bad stuff. I said, I knew they

744
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: were just joking around, but it made me feel horrible

745
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: to be talked about that way, and that the sun

746
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: really slapped me in the face. He agreed and said

747
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: it was horrible, and he also said something like, not

748
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: that it's an excuse, but you're really pretty, and I

749
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: think that's why we were talking about you that way.

750
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 4: None of us actually believe what we were saying, but

751
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: I think it was just wishful thinking and we were

752
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: idiots about it. So for all of you guys who

753
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: were suggesting that they were attracted to me, bingo, Yeah.

754
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 4: I laughed and told Tom that I had a girlfriend.

755
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 4: He said that was totally cool. He said, I and

756
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: I love that love his love, and then looked embarrassed

757
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: and said they must have looked like complete idiots bragging

758
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: about how much I wanted to sleep with them. Tom

759
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 4: asked if there was anything he could do to make

760
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: up for it. I told him not to tell the

761
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 4: other guys anything because I don't really want to talk

762
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 4: about it anymore. But if they ever start talking about

763
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: another person like that, even if it's not me, to

764
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: speak up. He promised me he would, and apologized about

765
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 4: ninety thousand times and left. I heard him go into

766
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 4: his room and then immediately leave and go out the

767
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 4: front door. I didn't think much of it and put

768
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: my headphones in and played track Mania for a while.

769
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 4: Later that day, I opened my door and there was

770
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 4: a big cardboard box right outside my door. My first

771
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: thought was that I'd ordered something from Amazon and forgot

772
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 4: about it, but it looked like a used box that

773
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: someone had repurposed to end taped shut. I dragged it

774
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: into my room and opened it. Guys, it was a

775
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 4: bouquet of flowers and a cake with the words sorry

776
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 4: written on it. That is class, class class. If you're

777
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 4: thinking that I cried for the second time in three hours,

778
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 4: well you're right anyway, I'm sorry I didn't throw down

779
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: with them like so many of you wanted. Unfortunately, I

780
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 4: am but a tiny crimpuff. I'm working a lot on

781
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: being more assertive, but in this scenario I handled it

782
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 4: as best as I could. Confronting Tom about it was

783
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 4: actually super scary that I'm proud of myself for bringing

784
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: it up at all. But there is a little bit

785
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: left to this story. Any final thoughts. I think just

786
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 4: my only thing is like, it's interesting.

787
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 5: She's like, oh, I'm sorry I didn't throw down, like

788
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 5: I think Also, throwing down is not the ideal, Like,

789
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 5: you don't want to throw down, You want to confront somebody,

790
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 5: have them go oh shoot, yeah, yeah, you're right, and

791
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 5: then be done. Like it's a blessing to not have

792
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 5: to throw down, be able to if you need to.

793
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think that this was honestly the better outcome.

794
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, you

795
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 4: want to be comfortable in your own house. Yeah. The

796
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: only thing that I would say is I hope that

797
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: Tom can sooner rather than later, confront these guys about it,

798
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: because I worry that they still have these sentiments and

799
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 4: I want you to be the most comfortable you can

800
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: be in your own house and not have to worry

801
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: about what you're dressed. You know what you're wearing. That's it,

802
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 4: and we've got another bit of this story to read.

803
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: I accept Tom's apology. He seems genuine, and this does

804
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 4: seem like a one off, crappy behavior situation. He is

805
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: usually a pretty stand up guy. The other guys, I

806
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: don't know. To be honest, I wasn't super solid on

807
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: them to start with, So I feel like I'll just

808
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: continue to not pursue a friendship with them, and I'll

809
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: continue to dress however. I want lastly serious thanks to

810
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: all of you for your responses. I was hesitant to

811
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 4: post this on Reddit because Reddit can sometimes be not

812
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 4: so nice about women's issues. But y'll are cool. That's

813
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Speaker 4: the end of that story.

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867
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Speaker 5: she said she's thought about it and she's not ready

870
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 5: for motherhood, so she came to deliver for four months

871
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 5: while she heals and rests. Then she'll leave the baby

872
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 5: here and go. At this point, I felt like cameras

873
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 5: were hidden somewhere and it was a prank.

874
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: Understandable.

875
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was half expecting her to say it was

876
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 5: a joke, but no, she was as serious as a

877
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 5: heart attack, which I was sort of having. I didn't

878
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 5: know what to do, how to react, whether to scream

879
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: or yell or kick her out, So I just left,

880
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 5: went to my room and locked myself in.

881
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: I couldn't sleep either.

882
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 5: I haven't talked to my fiance yet. He works as

883
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 5: a sales rep and most of the week he's away.

884
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 5: So what do I do currently? It's Saturday, the busiest

885
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 5: day at the office, and I can't even think straight.

886
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: How do I navigate this situation? Well? I think, first

887
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: of all, I think you do need to talk to fiance. Yeah,

888
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: because there is a world where your best friend is

889
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 4: crazy and she never slept with your fiance. I hope.

890
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: So I kind of hope that.

891
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: I mean that it'd still suck, but it suck marginally

892
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 5: less because it means at least your fiance did not

893
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 5: cheat on you.

894
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like one rather than losing two people. Yeah.

895
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 5: Oh, how do I navigate this situation?

896
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: I mean? Yeah, first step is talk? Yeah, after that,

897
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

898
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 5: Talk, hope that your best friend is crazy, and go

899
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 5: from there.

900
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 4: Maybe go get the support of your family and other friends. Yeah, dude,

901
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 4: because they have a baby. They have like a baby

902
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: that's born, a born baby.

903
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: They have a born baby that was like the thing

904
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 5: she was in the hospital. That's why she couldn't go

905
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 5: to the wedding. Yeah, there is an update, but I

906
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 5: think the only way to navigate is just like, hey,

907
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 5: I found out something, brother, call that office.

908
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: I don't care that it's Saturday.

909
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 5: Then no, you gotta get in there, but also take

910
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 5: time to yourself. Yes, okay the update, Well, thank you

911
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: all for the advice and support. It's really been helpful

912
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 5: and it's good to know I'm not going crazy.

913
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 4: Sorry, the previous post.

914
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 5: Was long and not well written, so here's the update.

915
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 5: I left work at one, got home, took my kid

916
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 5: and house help to my neighbor, who I've grown close

917
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 5: to and sometimes helped me out when the house help

918
00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 5: is off duty.

919
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: Came back.

920
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 5: She was sleeping, completely oblivious to the fact that she

921
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 5: just turned my life upside down. Then the piece of

922
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 5: crab fiance came home and I confronted them. Apparently I'm

923
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 5: that dumb, because tell me why. They tell me they

924
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 5: had been together since before and since she became pregnant.

925
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 5: He goes to see her every other week and supports her,

926
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 5: pays her rent, buys her food. Everything they said I

927
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 5: wasn't supposed to find out. The now ex fiance got

928
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 5: mad at my ex best friend.

929
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: For coming over to tell me and all that, yes, we.

930
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 5: Had an argument, and I blew up at both of them.

931
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 5: I chased them out, through them out, and locked the

932
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 5: door behind them. I was honestly expecting more of a

933
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 5: fight because I was ready to mess that man up.

934
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 5: All that time wasted thinking we were building something together.

935
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a lot. I'm really angry and disappointed,

936
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 5: but I think it's all going to be good because

937
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 5: I don't need that kind of baggage right now. I

938
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 5: have a lot to think about and a lot to

939
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 5: go through. His mother just called a few hours ago.

940
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 5: I didn't pick up. I don't want to deal with

941
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 5: that BS right now. So fair, so fair. I know

942
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 5: she's going to defend him, say just give them a chance,

943
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 5: or it's not wrong. I don't know what they're going

944
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 5: to try to say to me, but I don't want

945
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 5: to hear it right now. They're very traditional. Don't see

946
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 5: anything wrong with cheating or.

947
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 4: Having another child with another woman. I'm already that's what

948
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 4: traditional means. They're very traditional. They're very traditional. I guess

949
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: don't anything wrong because.

950
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 5: I guess the only thing I can think of is

951
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: if you're so traditional that you're not like divorced, but.

952
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: They're not even married.

953
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you were like so traditional toe of like

954
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 5: whatever relationship you get in, you're in.

955
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: It forever forever. They cheated, that's crazy. I'm sorry. They're

956
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 4: so traditional that they're okay with cheating and also having

957
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: a baby outside of marriage. They're like, what tradition is this.

958
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: They're like, it's just a tradition. Yeah, we can do

959
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 4: it in for a couple of years.

960
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, it's common. And I'm just really mad.

961
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 5: I haven't talked to either of them, but I'm pretty

962
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 5: sure they went to his home, which is not very

963
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 5: far away, like two hours from here. So I'm here

964
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 5: in bed typing. My son just wants to bed. I'm

965
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: really not taking any calls or anything to do with

966
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 5: them right now. I just want to enjoy the peace

967
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 5: WoT last, because tomorrow I won't. I want to have

968
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 5: a moment of peace so much for Mother's Day. I

969
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 5: was hoping for something celebratory, not this kind of drama.

970
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 4: I never expected this.

971
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 5: But I'm good and can't waste any more energy on

972
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 5: that man. He's not worth it. I know he's not

973
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 5: worth it. I also can't ask my mom for support

974
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 5: because she'll say I should just stay for the sake

975
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 5: of marriage and all that.

976
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 4: Bs. But y're not taking married. You're not married. Isn't

977
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 4: the whole point that this is your fiance? You're not crazy? No,

978
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 4: you're not crazy. Am I crazy? You're not crazy.

979
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 5: Anyone who's going to try to tell me to just

980
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 5: forgive him, I'm going to tell them to shove it.

981
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: Where the sun doesn't shine. That's all for now.

982
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 5: I'm just going to enjoy my piece and my cup

983
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 5: of tea. Thank you guys so much. There is an update.

984
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 5: Hi guys, it's been quite a while since I posted,

985
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 5: so here's the update. But first of all, thank you

986
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 5: all for your support and comments. You really helped me

987
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 5: gain clarity in the situation. So after I het them out,

988
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 5: they went to stay at his parents so not his home. Oh,

989
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 5: I guess his home like if the tech terminology like

990
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 5: is a whatever. Apparently, this affair of theirs was going

991
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 5: on for a long time and every time he was

992
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 5: away at work he would go see her. He wanted

993
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 5: to have both of us, but she decided she didn't

994
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 5: want to be a mom and thus disrupted their plan.

995
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 5: That Sunday, as expected, I got lots of calls and

996
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 5: texts from his parents, trying to make me make sense

997
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 5: of the situation, trying to make it all seem normal

998
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 5: and get me to take him back and all that bs.

999
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 5: But I was just done. Nothing could ever make any

1000
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 5: of that look normal. He also came back the following Saturday,

1001
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 5: wanting to talk and what night, whatnot, saying things along

1002
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 5: lines of I gave you space to stop being angry

1003
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 5: and be reasonable, So I'm going to give you a

1004
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 5: chance to reconsider your options because once I leave, I

1005
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 5: won't come back. And as you see, I have another wife.

1006
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: Well there we go, perfect and as you see, second wife,

1007
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 4: and as you could see, I got second wife and

1008
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 4: second baby. This is sean, I'm making.

1009
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 5: You an off and you can't listen like people will

1010
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 5: call their partners like wives and husband and stuff without

1011
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 5: being married.

1012
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: That's fine, that's whatever. This is such a weird.

1013
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 5: Vibe to be like like, yeah, I was married, we'll

1014
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 5: get married to the other thing, to be like, well,

1015
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 5: I have another wife, Like, I don't know, there's some

1016
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 5: there's some yuckiness on.

1017
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: Multiple Yeah, unless you guys got married somewhere in the

1018
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 4: story and just didn't let me know, no one's married here.

1019
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: This understandably made it would be very mad. I called

1020
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 5: him all the names in the book, told him off

1021
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 5: on how horrible he is a human being, and he's

1022
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 5: nothing but com and doesn't deserve any more of my time.

1023
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 5: I told him to look around and find anything he

1024
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 5: ever bought and take it with him. I made sure

1025
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 5: he collected everything with his name on it.

1026
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: Amount of my life for good? Tell me why.

1027
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 5: Later in the evening, my mom called me and told

1028
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 5: me his parents called them to talk to me. Turns

1029
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 5: out I was pretty presumptuous of my mom because during

1030
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 5: the week we had talked and she's been my rock

1031
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 5: through all of this.

1032
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 4: That's good, yay.

1033
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 5: She even took my son for the week as I

1034
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 5: sorted through everything else. My mom tore them a new

1035
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 5: one good. They had wanted to get the families together

1036
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 5: to discuss how we should get back together, but both

1037
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 5: my parents shut that down fast. They told them how

1038
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 5: they gave them their are in good terms, but they

1039
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 5: failed to raise their son to be an honorable man,

1040
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 5: and how the disrespect for me is disrespect for them too.

1041
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 5: After he took his stuff, leaving the furniture and other

1042
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 5: things he couldn't carry. He mostly took his clothes and shoes,

1043
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 5: and was petty enough to take a pair of shoes

1044
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 5: he had bought for me earlier. This year, I sold

1045
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 5: them every single one.

1046
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 4: It took a while, but I did. There's another relevant update.

1047
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 5: But do you have anything else to say?

1048
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 4: Yeah? Even never turn back. Yeah, lock them all everywhere,

1049
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 4: let them live their terrible life together. I hope they

1050
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: just hate their lives.

1051
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 5: It's truly one of those things where like this is terrible.

1052
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 5: I do sometimes look at this and go.

1053
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 4: Well, thank god they're together.

1054
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 5: Thank got the two worse people in the story, or

1055
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: to take them out that they don't have to do

1056
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 5: this to anybody else exactly, Oh my goodness. Okay, ohp

1057
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 5: says I then moved and bought everything new. So now

1058
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 5: I'm living in this cozy, new upgraded house, no stress

1059
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 5: from anyone or anything. I don't know what happened to

1060
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 5: that witch, but quite frankly, I don't care. Her betrayal

1061
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 5: was bad enough. I can't waste time thinking of someone

1062
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 5: who never gave a good thought about me. They really

1063
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 5: deserve each other, and the trash took itself out too. Also,

1064
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 5: the meeting with families happened, but it wasn't to get

1065
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 5: us together. It was for custody and whatnot. He still

1066
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 5: gets to be in our son's life, pay for everything,

1067
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 5: including future school fees and all that, and if he doesn't,

1068
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 5: his parents are to.

1069
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 4: Be held liable for all that.

1070
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 5: So it's safe to say I'm set up and comfortable

1071
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 5: where I'm at. Everything is going well. I'm happy and

1072
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 5: have peace. It's a happy ending to an otherwise crappy experience.

1073
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 5: Thank you all for your support through this crazy situation.

1074
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: That is the end of that crazy story.

1075
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 2: Hey is John Ogi host.

1076
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but a quick

1077
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: three minute break of ads from our sponsors.

1078
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: My friend demanded all her wedding guests wear white, even

1079
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 4: if we can't afford it. How untraditional she is planning

1080
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 4: a color themed wedding and wants all her guests to

1081
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 4: wear white. My husband likes black and doesn't even own

1082
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: a white shirts. I don't have a white dress or shoes.

1083
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 4: I had to tell her that if she does this,

1084
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: we won't be able to attend. We're on fixed income

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00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: and can't afford to buy new clothing and shoes for

1086
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 4: somebody else's wedding. By the way, this comes from Salty

1087
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 4: Thing three one four four and if you want to

1088
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 4: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay

1089
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: storytime separate it. I'm Sophia and I'm Riley, and we're

1090
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 4: here to give good advice goofy, but we don't have

1091
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: all the answers. We only know what we do, so

1092
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 4: let us know what you would do. In the comments,

1093
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: her mother is against her plan too. She thinks it's

1094
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 4: unfair to require our particular color unless a person is

1095
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 4: in the wedding party. Friend just snaps that you have

1096
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 4: a year to save up and thinks I'm being a

1097
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 4: bad friend, and that's also rude. For Yeah, I've called

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00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: men's rental shops and we can't find a white suit

1099
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Speaker 4: for rent for less than seventy five dollars. I'm sure

1100
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 4: I'll need as much or more for my dress and shoes,

1101
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 4: and that's on top of shower and wedding presence. I

1102
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: don't think I'm the ale for rsvping with regrets when

1103
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 4: it's time. What do y'all think? And there is an update.

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00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 4: I don't think you'd be the ale for not going. Yeah,

1105
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 4: I still don't think even though it's silly, you can say,

1106
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 4: like you can't do that for your wedding. Yeah, if

1107
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 4: she wants to do that, it's like it's like someone

1108
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: doing a wedding in a different country or something like

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00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: a destination wedding. I think it's gonna make it a

1110
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 4: lot harder for most people to go. But in the

1111
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 4: end of the day, if that person wants to do it,

1112
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 4: that's their decision and they just have to take the cutting.

1113
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 4: Update for all of you who just think I'm fishing

1114
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 4: for an excuse not to go, that is not true

1115
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 4: at all. We're on disability and income is a big

1116
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 4: issue for us. We are still going to send them

1117
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 4: a nice wedding and shower gift, and that's going to

1118
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 4: stretches too, because one place setting over China and Crystal

1119
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 4: is one hundred and fifty dollars a pop. This is

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Speaker 4: not something we just don't want to do. Whenever I'm

1121
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: asked to be somebody's bridesmaid, I have to regretfully decline too.

1122
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 4: Just can't afford a dress, shoes, hair, makeup, manicure, a

1123
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 4: share of the shower and bachelorette costs and gifts. I

1124
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 4: was upset when I heard about this, because I knew

1125
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 4: we don't have to decline. We already went to our

1126
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 4: engagement party and bought a gift for that too. There

1127
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 4: are limits to what we can afford. Believe me, we're

1128
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Speaker 4: disappointed too, Commoner ones, Why wouldn't you find these clothes

1129
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: at a consignment store? This really shouldn't be that hard.

1130
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 4: Did you even check consignment stores or any other very

1131
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 4: cheap or free options gift groups on Facebook? Charity, family

1132
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 4: and Friends, vinted et cetera. Ohpie says, I already buy

1133
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: most of our wardrobe at consignment and eBay. The only

1134
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 4: white formals I saw at my usual haunts were wedding dresses.

1135
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 4: She's a longtime friend, but all caught up in Instagram influencers,

1136
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: and ah, I want my wedding to be unique. She

1137
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: was talking about the bridal party before he even proposed

1138
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 4: how much fun we'd all have hanging out together at

1139
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 4: the bachelorette Myrtle Beach weekend. By the way, when I

1140
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 4: told her to please not ask me because I can't

1141
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: afford it, I think part of this is that she's

1142
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 4: still pissed about that. I'd love to, but I just

1143
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 4: can't she went off on me to her mom, which

1144
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 4: is how I know her mom disapproves. Her sister called

1145
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: me afterward and apologized to me for both of them sis,

1146
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 4: and mom told her it was a bad idea that

1147
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: will cause them to lose guests and her photos will

1148
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 4: look like awful if everything is only one color? Is

1149
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 4: she also wearing white? That's I think she was wearing

1150
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: a color and everyone else was wearing white. No, I

1151
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 4: feel like everybody's in white. I saw a TikTok I

1152
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 4: thought she was wearing a color, and because I've seen

1153
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 4: those weddings where everyone wears white except for the bride,

1154
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 4: and so that like she really stands out as well.

1155
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 4: But I've also seen on TikTok a video of this

1156
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 4: one bride who wore white and everyone else who were

1157
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 4: white and you can't really tell who the bride is.

1158
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, then it becomes a fun like a little.

1159
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: Where this situation, Yeah, where's the bride got?

1160
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 5: So also like this is again where I look at

1161
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 5: this bride and I'm like, you can't be mad at

1162
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 5: people for their financial situations. And like, also I guarantee

1163
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 5: you any inconvenience this is causing on you is like eight. Yeah,

1164
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 5: a small portion of how hard it must be for whatever.

1165
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 4: Personally. Again, bride can make any decision she wants about

1166
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 4: the wedding, but the harder you make it for your guests,

1167
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 4: the less guests you're gonna have. So it's it's just

1168
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 4: you just have to decide which one you want. My

1169
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 4: husband told me to look for something for me, and

1170
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: he will just not go, which will piss her off too.

1171
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 4: Wedding is next year, so maybe she'll come back down

1172
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 4: to earth by then. This is ridiculous. Comment or two says,

1173
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 4: do you even like your friend? You sound very resentful.

1174
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 4: If this actually was about money, i'd understand it a little,

1175
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: but your responses are dripping with content. She doesn't need

1176
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 4: to change our whole plan just because you don't like

1177
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 4: the idea. That's not what I've been saying. Opie literally said,

1178
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 4: it's her wedding. I just can't afford it. That's a

1179
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 4: ridiculous ask, especially from a so called friend. Opie says

1180
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 4: she has undergone a crazy personality change ever since she

1181
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: got engaged. She was talking wedding before even proposed the

1182
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 4: wedding is next year, but she went out and created

1183
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: her wedding registry. The same week she got engaged. She

1184
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 4: had a big engagement party and has planned all sorts

1185
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 4: of activities for the next year. I'm happy for her,

1186
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 4: but think some of her expectations are unreasonable, like the

1187
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 4: one color wedding. She wants her bridesmaids to buy their dresses,

1188
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 4: which will just hang in the closet for the next year.

1189
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 4: She's thirty four and is pissed because her parents aren't

1190
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 4: shipping in more for her costs. It's getting out of hand.

1191
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 4: We are longtime friends, but I think it is her

1192
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 4: who is losing sight of this. She knows my money situation,

1193
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 4: and Commoner three says, not the ale for not going.

1194
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 4: You can make some excuse, but if people are telling

1195
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 4: her how to plan her own wedding, then they would

1196
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 4: be the ale. Ope, it's not her plans, it's her expectations.

1197
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 4: She got hop and mad when I said to please

1198
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 4: not ask me to be in the wedding. She wanted

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Speaker 4: me for matron and her helper for planning, and I

1200
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 4: said to please not ask me to be in the

1201
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 4: bridal party. I will gladly help her plan. She has

1202
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 4: a busy career while I'm home and can make calls,

1203
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 4: et cetera. She has a busy career while I'm home

1204
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 4: and can make calls, et cetera. The bridesmad dress she

1205
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 4: picked already is two hundred dollars and the shoes are

1206
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 4: almost another hundred. Yeah, that to me is where Yeah,

1207
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 4: because I was in a bridal party and there was

1208
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 4: like a.

1209
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 5: Color thing, but it was very much like we weren't

1210
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 5: sent articles or anything. It was like, hey, here's the vibe.

1211
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 4: It's such tolerant and then maybe like texture of you know,

1212
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 4: the fabric.

1213
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 5: And so it was nice because it was very like

1214
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 5: self led where we could find what fit us, what

1215
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 5: we were comfortable in, and also what was within our budget.

1216
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1217
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 5: Again, you can do as much as you want, but

1218
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 5: you kind of can't be upset if people are like, hey,

1219
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 5: this is.

1220
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 4: Not gonna do it. Yeah, because I mean, two hundred

1221
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 4: dollars for a dress. Goodness gracious, I don't think that's

1222
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 4: that out of the realm. For I personally haven't spent

1223
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 4: two hundred dollars on dresses. I usually aim around like

1224
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 4: one hundred. I've got a nice pair of.

1225
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 5: Dicky's pants for sixty dollars and then got them tailored,

1226
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 5: so I guess I have a different perspective.

1227
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like for a nice dress, that's fair. For

1228
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: like a dress that you're going to be in a

1229
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 4: bridal party for I feel like one hundred to two

1230
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 4: hundred isn't that crazy? And then you know, nice shoes

1231
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 4: tend to unless you're getting them for discount price, they

1232
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 4: usually do tend to be about one hundred dollars.

1233
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 5: Maybe everybody should just stop getting married.

1234
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 4: That it's just the clothes. She wants a batch in

1235
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 4: Myrtle Beach and a shower with catered sushi. Update two

1236
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: Nearly three years later, friend got engaged and started planning

1237
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 4: her wedding. She was in her thirties and it was

1238
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 4: not her first wedding. Before everybody's squeals, I do not

1239
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 4: think it's wrong for a repeat bride to have a big,

1240
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 4: formal wedding. That is not the issue. What I do

1241
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 4: feel was that some of her expectations were unreasonable given

1242
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 4: her age and the ages and life circumstances of her friends.

1243
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 4: She got pissed with me right from the start. I

1244
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 4: declined being a bridesmaid because I'm on disability and didn't

1245
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 4: think I could afford the dress and a share of

1246
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 4: the shower and the bachelorette party, plus shower and wedding gifts.

1247
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 4: I was also afraid my disability would inconvenience her because

1248
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 4: I have chronic pain and I never know how I'm

1249
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 4: going to feel from one day to the next. It

1250
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 4: makes trying to plan anything a pain in the butt.

1251
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 4: There was a high chance that I'd let her down

1252
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 4: on helping with wedding work and going to appointments. I

1253
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 4: thought she'd understand, but she was majorly pissed. She said

1254
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 4: I had a year to save up for my wedding attire.

1255
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 4: I have an opinion on that, but kept it to

1256
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: myself and apology for disappointing her. She wanted a destination

1257
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 4: bachelorette party. The bridesmaids and her friends are all married

1258
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 4: with kids, and I don't think it was reasonable to

1259
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 4: expect us to head off for a week at Myrtle Beach.

1260
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 4: A weekend, sure, but not an entire week. The expense

1261
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 4: was another no go for me. I did what I

1262
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 4: could to support her. We attended her engagement party and

1263
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: brought a gift which wasn't cheap. Read on. She registered

1264
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 4: for China Crystal the works. I know that's not a

1265
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 4: faux pas. But she had a full set from her

1266
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 4: first wedding. She just wanted new stuff. This is where

1267
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 4: I admit that I might be the lower anatomical blowhole.

1268
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 4: I feel that asking her friends for such pricey gifts

1269
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 4: for the second wedding was unfair. Okay, now on for

1270
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 4: the real big deal. What do you think. I don't

1271
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: know if it's I think it's just like a wedding.

1272
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 5: I think it's fine, because again, I just feel like

1273
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 5: so much in this time with stuff. I'm just like

1274
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 5: just don't like if you think that it's uncouth to

1275
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,479
Speaker 5: ask for the China, great, don't buy the china.

1276
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, have to be the one to do that. Yeah,

1277
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 4: there's I'm sure there's other things on our registry besides China. Yeah,

1278
00:56:59,120 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be hones.

1279
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 5: Usually I just like give, like donate to the like

1280
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 5: Huntmoon or whatever fund exactly.

1281
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 4: They usually have something like that. I don't know. I

1282
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 4: don't think you'd need to complain about her having a

1283
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 4: second wedding and getting more stuff, especially because there's other things.

1284
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 4: I think you can genuinely complain. We've got a lot

1285
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 4: of other things. Six months from the wedding, she decided

1286
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 4: to ask her guests to dress an all white formal attire.

1287
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: I told her if she did that, we wouldn't be

1288
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: able to come. Now. I have cocktail and formal clothing,

1289
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 4: but not in all white. My husband likes black and

1290
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 4: doesn't even own a white shirt. That meant a new

1291
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 4: suit and shoes for him, a new evening gown for me.

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Speaker 4: If I could afford this, I could have been her bridesmaid.

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Speaker 4: I did make an effort, though, I called men's formal

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Speaker 4: wear shops and renting a white suit for him would

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Speaker 4: cost around seventy five dollars. I looked at consignment stores

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Speaker 4: for an evening gown, and the only all white long

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Speaker 4: dresses were wedding gowns. So I will say real quick

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Speaker 4: on that. Do that.

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Speaker 5: Then, I like, yeah, maybe that's a little petty of me,

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Speaker 5: But like, if she's asking people to come in white,

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Speaker 5: come in a wedding, and I feel like we've already

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Speaker 5: kind of issued the problem of like, oh no, it's

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Speaker 5: taboo where the wedding dress.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as you can afford it, Like presumably

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Speaker 4: if you're going to a consignment store, it's a little

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Speaker 4: bit cheaper so yeah, her mom and sister tried to

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Speaker 4: talk her out of this. Her mom thought and I

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Speaker 4: agreed that requiring a particular color isn't a fair ask

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Speaker 4: unless a person is in the wedding party. My husband said,

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Speaker 4: you just stay home and let me go. I sew

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Speaker 4: and making a simple long dress wouldn't bust our budget.

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Speaker 4: My friend the bride told me I was a crappy

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Speaker 4: friend not to bother and ended our friendship. Well, there

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Speaker 4: you go. You attempted to find a solution, even though

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Speaker 4: you know it seems like you're coming at this with

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Speaker 4: kind of a little bit of resentment now because it's

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Speaker 4: been three years and probably, like you know, haven't been

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Speaker 4: friends with her for a while, so I think that

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Speaker 4: is bleeding in here. But uh, you tried to do

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Speaker 4: it in the moment, tried to find up dress. She

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Speaker 4: didn't appreciate the effort, And there you go. Any final

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Speaker 4: thoughts gotta go, Bean, did with they good? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You literally tried to show a dress and your friend

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Speaker 5: was like, I can't, I can't deal with this.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy. Yeah. I mean again, I think at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day, your friend is the a hole

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Speaker 4: for how she reacted. But there is a little left.

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Speaker 4: I'm still friends with her mother and sister. Her mother

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Speaker 4: was mortified about this and apologized, of course, it's not

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Speaker 4: their fault. Her sister told me her wedding photos look

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Speaker 4: like disembodied heads floating in a white sea. I don't

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Speaker 4: have issues with her wedding slash, her rules, but brides

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Speaker 4: should be prepared to get declines if her rules result

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Speaker 4: in impractical expenses to her guests. I agree she ended

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Speaker 4: our entire friendship over it. All the years meant nothing

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Speaker 4: against one day of it. That is a shame and common.

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Speaker 4: One says these stories where the friendships end over the wedding.

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Speaker 4: Were there no signs of these people being crappy friends before?

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Speaker 4: Do some people really lose all sensibilities when it comes

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Speaker 4: to weddings? Oh P says She's always been a bit

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Speaker 4: of a diva, and I'm quite a bit older than

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Speaker 4: she is, but she's never acted this self centered. She

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Speaker 4: was a great friend, the kind who organizes birthday parties

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Speaker 4: for people in such and at first I put the

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Speaker 4: bridezilla behavior down to her having such a bad first marriage.

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Speaker 4: Maybe pinterest and white lace poisoned her mind. Comment two

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Speaker 4: says was her husband in a white suit too. Maybe

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Speaker 4: he could wear it when he divorces her, because, in

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Speaker 4: the words of Charlotte, I rock a lawsuit when I'm

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Speaker 4: going to court, a white suit when I'm getting divorced,

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01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 4: and a black suit at the funeral home, and my

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Speaker 4: birthday suit when I'm home alone. Oh Pie, says White Tucks.

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Speaker 4: He looked like an ice cream cone in the wedding picks.

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Speaker 4: But folks, that's the end of that story.