WEBVTT - Joe Was Right...What???

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<v Speaker 1>Joe was right, it's one more thing. What I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Something you have repeated on the show for many, many years.

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<v Speaker 1>Is definitely right. But before we get to that.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the most interesting things that happened in the

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<v Speaker 2>world to me in the last twenty four hours is

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<v Speaker 2>around the whole Iran war thing. Donald Trump threatening to

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<v Speaker 2>kill the negotiators for Iran, Yes, before they could get

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<v Speaker 2>back to their country. I will kill you in Switzerland

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<v Speaker 2>or in the air or something I guess he was.

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<v Speaker 2>And how it got almost zero news coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Now wild?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is both wild and unwild?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a wild?

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<v Speaker 4>If it were anybody but Trump who says crazy crap

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<v Speaker 4>all the time?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that because you would not have a headline on

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<v Speaker 2>day thirty of Boy Cribs Wolf last night if he'd

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<v Speaker 2>cry I cried the previous twenty nine ninth Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's part of it. I'm sure Marco slapped his

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<v Speaker 4>forehead and said, do I even tell him what that

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<v Speaker 4>would do to international relations? Or No? Probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there was even the tiniest bit of

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<v Speaker 2>I would follow through on this to that threat?

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<v Speaker 4>He was probably Okay, So what you're asking is did

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<v Speaker 4>he understand he was saying something ridiculous that he would

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<v Speaker 4>never follow through on when he said it, or was

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<v Speaker 4>there an inkling of intent? Is that what you're asking?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me read it to you. I will use

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<v Speaker 2>the actual word since we're doing a podcast. Yes, Iran

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<v Speaker 2>threatened to close the strait of horror moves at the negotiations.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got some Iranian delegates there in Geneva, Switzerland negotiating.

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<v Speaker 2>They threatened to close the strait of horror moves. Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>response was, you close it and you won't have a country.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't even make it back to your fucking country.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, that's uh, that's a negotiation that's hit rocky terrain there.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here's the thing you've always been right about.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know who said it first, but the

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<v Speaker 2>whole uh, if you dissect humor.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it's like a dissecting a frog that the

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<v Speaker 4>frog dies of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So does the joke. I can't see.

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<v Speaker 4>Some woman, some female comedian said that once and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, wow, that's a good point. And it's generally

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<v Speaker 4>it's done by people who intentionally want to pretend it's

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<v Speaker 4>not humor, and it's some you know, political statement that

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<v Speaker 4>they can then condemn you and punish you for.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was kind of looking forward to it. This

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<v Speaker 2>was a piece in the Washington Post. Science suggests cringeworthy

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<v Speaker 2>dad jokes may serve a real purpose. This was for

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<v Speaker 2>Father's Day yesterday. Humor is a surprisingly important aspect of

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<v Speaker 2>parenting in that silly one liner may help strengthen the

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<v Speaker 2>bond between fathers and children. And it's just already like

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<v Speaker 2>took the fun out of it for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the describe me having to describe psychologically how it

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<v Speaker 3>affects the relationship between a parent and their child to

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<v Speaker 3>tell these jokes, and then it's got jokes inners person between.

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<v Speaker 2>But having surrounded it with this diagnosis from psychiatrists about

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<v Speaker 2>why it.

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<v Speaker 1>Works, it takes all the fun out of it for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, because it does because the humans have always

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<v Speaker 4>done that. Leave it alone, and if you're in that

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<v Speaker 4>field and you study it, great, come to your conclusions

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<v Speaker 4>and keep it to yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Research suggests that humor may play a meaningful role in parenting,

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<v Speaker 2>and shared laughter may help strengthen father child bonds. Research

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<v Speaker 2>suggests money have you ever had kids, have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>hung around with your kids in the car, at the

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<v Speaker 2>dinner table or whatever, and like, you're joking and laughing,

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<v Speaker 2>and you need to research to suggest that maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a cool thing between y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, a lot of folks at the universities haven't. The

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<v Speaker 4>number of conservative women on campuses is practically zero. I

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<v Speaker 4>was reading about that the other day. And conservative women

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<v Speaker 4>are much much, much more likely to be moms than

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<v Speaker 4>progressive women. So yeah, there are very there. Comparatively, there's

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<v Speaker 4>an insanely low number of college academics who have children

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<v Speaker 4>compared to the population. Anyway, back to you, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>rooting of humor.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fun genre of humor because it's welcoming, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of affable, it's good nature and lighthearted, said Paul Sylvia,

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<v Speaker 2>a professor of psychology at the University of North Carolina. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>while there are a few studies on dad jokes themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>you know why, because there's really no need to study

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<v Speaker 2>this now for any reason whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>You wasting your time and your degree.

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<v Speaker 2>Sylvia, the researcher has been analyzed and analyzing them to

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<v Speaker 2>to determine what makes some funnier than others. He'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>put out a paper about how it increases the bond

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<v Speaker 2>between parents and kids to tell these jokes, and it

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<v Speaker 2>will write this, and it will get published in several things,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he'll be a published researcher. And as we

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<v Speaker 2>all know, none of these papers ever get read or

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<v Speaker 2>cited by anyone. They don't need to accomplish anything.

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<v Speaker 4>He will be cited as a humor expert, though, when

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<v Speaker 4>The New York Times tries to ruin somebody's career for

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<v Speaker 4>making a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>In a preprint of a preprint of his study, Sylvia

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<v Speaker 2>and his colleagues analyzed more than thirty two thousand jokes

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<v Speaker 2>from Subreddit and identified three qualities that appeared to make

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<v Speaker 2>up the best dad jokes. Puns exce on literalization and

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<v Speaker 2>pedantic humor.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, some of the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Classic ones use a pun so long boiling water, you

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<v Speaker 2>will be missed.

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<v Speaker 1>Im lst. I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Literalization, which turns a common concept or expression into a

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<v Speaker 2>physical reality, is while widely used as well. I'm worried

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<v Speaker 2>about the calendar. It's days are numbered with pedantic humor,

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<v Speaker 2>this PhD said. The jokes are sets up the joke

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<v Speaker 2>and then derails it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always liked this one.

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<v Speaker 2>What's blue and smells like red paint?

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<v Speaker 1>Blue paint? Always thought that was a good joke.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, the derail job, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, there a recipe for humor, the researcher said.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, nobody wanted to hear this. Nobody wants to it's

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<v Speaker 4>not necessary. Using rash, why does it feel so good

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<v Speaker 4>to kiss somebody you love?

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<v Speaker 2>Who cares? Researchers suggest I enjoy the feeling blah and

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<v Speaker 2>dorphin flah blah blah, shut up and kiss me. Using

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<v Speaker 2>Reddit comments and up votes as popularity metrics, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you got to do. Sylvia determined that when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to a solid dad joke structure, people found the

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<v Speaker 2>question and answer framing funnier, such as did you hear

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<v Speaker 2>about the two thieves who stole a calendar? They each

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<v Speaker 2>got six months? Very amusing and in a survey portion

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<v Speaker 2>of the study, people reported that they connected more of

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<v Speaker 2>the jokes that used family characters such as mother's, father's, brothers, sister, grandparents,

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<v Speaker 2>and animals. Topics such as nature, health care, and money resonated,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas those about politics, religion, and war did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, so, don't use as.

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<v Speaker 2>A topic matter for your dad joke with your kid, war, religion, politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for that heads up, and.

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<v Speaker 4>We found in our study that dad jokes relating to

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<v Speaker 4>exchange traded funds really stiffed. Again, thank you for your

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<v Speaker 4>valuable research. Wow, dad jokes about death? What the hell, dude?

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<v Speaker 1>Or politics?

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<v Speaker 2>And then at lists here, what are supposedly good dad jokes?

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<v Speaker 2>Why does the Danish military put barcodes on its ships

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<v Speaker 2>so they can scan da native Scandinavian? I got scan?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Scandinavian? Okay, I didn't right. I'm too dumb for

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<v Speaker 2>that one. How do you catch a unique bird? Unique

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<v Speaker 2>up on it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd never heard this one before.

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<v Speaker 2>This is pretty funny. I was wondering why the frisbee

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<v Speaker 2>kept getting bigger and bigger. Then it hit me, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>that's so good. Oh oh that's beautiful. I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>had a collection of these when my kids were little.

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<v Speaker 1>This one's The writing on this one is good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The researcher, the PhD Sylvia, said, the most notorious dad

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<v Speaker 2>jokes have an almost irritating quality to them is a

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<v Speaker 2>way they shake up the conversation and engage people. Such

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<v Speaker 2>is when a child says, Dad, I'm hungry Hi hungry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dad. Sure has an almost irritating quality.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, true, my mom used to do that at

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<v Speaker 4>say one, I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Done that too, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Without even realizing that it had almost irritating quality. That

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<v Speaker 2>shook up the conversation in a pleasant way. Humor is

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<v Speaker 2>a playful social glue. I've noticed that makes everyone feel

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit better. Yes, I'm a human being also.

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<v Speaker 1>And a little more.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, it really is explaining humans to humans.

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<v Speaker 2>We know it makes people a little more at ease

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<v Speaker 2>and closer to the people they're with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes it does.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow. When they print this shit jealous, probably got an

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<v Speaker 4>anti boy PhDs write long papers about it and get

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<v Speaker 4>them inserted into peer reviewed periodicals. Often jokes cause people

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<v Speaker 4>to smile and or laugh, which makes them happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, humor says here human plays an important role in

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<v Speaker 2>our health, relationships and well being. Research shows Thank god

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<v Speaker 2>you've got the research, because if you just made that

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<v Speaker 2>up off the top of your head, can you back.

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<v Speaker 1>Up that statement that humor makes people happier?

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<v Speaker 4>The academizing of human experience. Sometimes it's good and helpful

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<v Speaker 4>helping an addictions, say, or an abusive relationship or something

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<v Speaker 4>like that. But explaining why there are jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Steven sultan Off, a clinical psychologist and professor at Pepperdine University,

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<v Speaker 2>calls mirth the emotional uplift of humor.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, he's a long day.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when a joke doesn't elicit a gofa, people may

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<v Speaker 2>still experience the benefit by feeling uplifted by it.

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<v Speaker 1>He said. We know, yes, we know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also a cognitive response known as wit that it

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<v Speaker 2>can occur with humor.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is this?

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<v Speaker 4>This is killing me?

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<v Speaker 2>To understand a joke, people often need to shift their perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>and studies suggests that this cognitive reframing can help regulate emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>And cope with stress.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that's an interesting concept. That's that's next level.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd almost like to hear about that cognitive reframing and

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<v Speaker 4>how that is.

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<v Speaker 1>We've certainly all felt that though.

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<v Speaker 2>When somebody, you know, cracks a joke in a stressful.

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<v Speaker 4>Situation, right, yeah, everything changes, Like you've literally changed your perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>You've moved over here. That's that's okay, Finally something interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's self evident, but like I said, it's

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<v Speaker 4>at least intriguing.

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<v Speaker 2>And he ended with this researcher from Pepperdine. Never trust

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<v Speaker 2>an atom. They make up everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>This was my dad's favorite dad joke. He didn't follow

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<v Speaker 5>good advice, But why did the chicken cross the road?

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<v Speaker 5>Because he was being chased by inflation in the economy.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't very funny.

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<v Speaker 4>He feared death.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering to myself, why does that.

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<v Speaker 2>Frisbee keep getting bigger and bigger?

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<v Speaker 5>And then it hit me, well, I guess that's it.