Speaker 1: Joe was right, it's one more thing. What I'm one
Speaker 1: more thing.
Speaker 2: Something you have repeated on the show for many, many years.
Speaker 1: Is definitely right. But before we get to that.
Speaker 2: One of the most interesting things that happened in the
Speaker 2: world to me in the last twenty four hours is
Speaker 2: around the whole Iran war thing. Donald Trump threatening to
Speaker 2: kill the negotiators for Iran, Yes, before they could get
Speaker 2: back to their country. I will kill you in Switzerland
Speaker 2: or in the air or something I guess he was.
Speaker 2: And how it got almost zero news coverage.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Now wild?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is both wild and unwild?
Speaker 2: Is it a wild?
Speaker 4: If it were anybody but Trump who says crazy crap
Speaker 4: all the time?
Speaker 2: Is that because you would not have a headline on
Speaker 2: day thirty of Boy Cribs Wolf last night if he'd
Speaker 2: cry I cried the previous twenty nine ninth Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's part of it. I'm sure Marco slapped his
Speaker 4: forehead and said, do I even tell him what that
Speaker 4: would do to international relations? Or No? Probably not.
Speaker 2: Do you think there was even the tiniest bit of
Speaker 2: I would follow through on this to that threat?
Speaker 4: He was probably Okay, So what you're asking is did
Speaker 4: he understand he was saying something ridiculous that he would
Speaker 4: never follow through on when he said it, or was
Speaker 4: there an inkling of intent? Is that what you're asking?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me read it to you. I will use
Speaker 2: the actual word since we're doing a podcast. Yes, Iran
Speaker 2: threatened to close the strait of horror moves at the negotiations.
Speaker 2: So you got some Iranian delegates there in Geneva, Switzerland negotiating.
Speaker 2: They threatened to close the strait of horror moves. Trump's
Speaker 2: response was, you close it and you won't have a country.
Speaker 2: You won't even make it back to your fucking country.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's uh, that's a negotiation that's hit rocky terrain there.
Speaker 2: All right, here's the thing you've always been right about.
Speaker 2: And I don't know who said it first, but the
Speaker 2: whole uh, if you dissect humor.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's like a dissecting a frog that the
Speaker 4: frog dies of it.
Speaker 1: So does the joke. I can't see.
Speaker 4: Some woman, some female comedian said that once and I
Speaker 4: was like, wow, that's a good point. And it's generally
Speaker 4: it's done by people who intentionally want to pretend it's
Speaker 4: not humor, and it's some you know, political statement that
Speaker 4: they can then condemn you and punish you for.
Speaker 2: So I was kind of looking forward to it. This
Speaker 2: was a piece in the Washington Post. Science suggests cringeworthy
Speaker 2: dad jokes may serve a real purpose. This was for
Speaker 2: Father's Day yesterday. Humor is a surprisingly important aspect of
Speaker 2: parenting in that silly one liner may help strengthen the
Speaker 2: bond between fathers and children. And it's just already like
Speaker 2: took the fun out of it for me.
Speaker 3: Oh, the describe me having to describe psychologically how it
Speaker 3: affects the relationship between a parent and their child to
Speaker 3: tell these jokes, and then it's got jokes inners person between.
Speaker 2: But having surrounded it with this diagnosis from psychiatrists about
Speaker 2: why it.
Speaker 1: Works, it takes all the fun out of it for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because it does because the humans have always
Speaker 4: done that. Leave it alone, and if you're in that
Speaker 4: field and you study it, great, come to your conclusions
Speaker 4: and keep it to yourself.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Research suggests that humor may play a meaningful role in parenting,
Speaker 2: and shared laughter may help strengthen father child bonds. Research
Speaker 2: suggests money have you ever had kids, have you ever
Speaker 2: hung around with your kids in the car, at the
Speaker 2: dinner table or whatever, and like, you're joking and laughing,
Speaker 2: and you need to research to suggest that maybe that's
Speaker 2: kind of a cool thing between y'all.
Speaker 4: Right, a lot of folks at the universities haven't. The
Speaker 4: number of conservative women on campuses is practically zero. I
Speaker 4: was reading about that the other day. And conservative women
Speaker 4: are much much, much more likely to be moms than
Speaker 4: progressive women. So yeah, there are very there. Comparatively, there's
Speaker 4: an insanely low number of college academics who have children
Speaker 4: compared to the population. Anyway, back to you, and you're
Speaker 4: rooting of humor.
Speaker 2: It's a fun genre of humor because it's welcoming, it's
Speaker 2: kind of affable, it's good nature and lighthearted, said Paul Sylvia,
Speaker 2: a professor of psychology at the University of North Carolina. Really,
Speaker 2: while there are a few studies on dad jokes themselves,
Speaker 2: you know why, because there's really no need to study
Speaker 2: this now for any reason whatsoever.
Speaker 4: You wasting your time and your degree.
Speaker 2: Sylvia, the researcher has been analyzed and analyzing them to
Speaker 2: to determine what makes some funnier than others. He'll probably
Speaker 2: put out a paper about how it increases the bond
Speaker 2: between parents and kids to tell these jokes, and it
Speaker 2: will write this, and it will get published in several things,
Speaker 2: and then he'll be a published researcher. And as we
Speaker 2: all know, none of these papers ever get read or
Speaker 2: cited by anyone. They don't need to accomplish anything.
Speaker 4: He will be cited as a humor expert, though, when
Speaker 4: The New York Times tries to ruin somebody's career for
Speaker 4: making a joke.
Speaker 2: In a preprint of a preprint of his study, Sylvia
Speaker 2: and his colleagues analyzed more than thirty two thousand jokes
Speaker 2: from Subreddit and identified three qualities that appeared to make
Speaker 2: up the best dad jokes. Puns exce on literalization and
Speaker 2: pedantic humor.
Speaker 1: He said, some of the most.
Speaker 2: Classic ones use a pun so long boiling water, you
Speaker 2: will be missed.
Speaker 1: Im lst. I get it.
Speaker 2: Literalization, which turns a common concept or expression into a
Speaker 2: physical reality, is while widely used as well. I'm worried
Speaker 2: about the calendar. It's days are numbered with pedantic humor,
Speaker 2: this PhD said. The jokes are sets up the joke
Speaker 2: and then derails it.
Speaker 1: I've always liked this one.
Speaker 2: What's blue and smells like red paint?
Speaker 1: Blue paint? Always thought that was a good joke.
Speaker 4: Ah, the derail job, I love it.
Speaker 2: Yep, there a recipe for humor, the researcher said.
Speaker 4: Again, nobody wanted to hear this. Nobody wants to it's
Speaker 4: not necessary. Using rash, why does it feel so good
Speaker 4: to kiss somebody you love?
Speaker 2: Who cares? Researchers suggest I enjoy the feeling blah and
Speaker 2: dorphin flah blah blah, shut up and kiss me. Using
Speaker 2: Reddit comments and up votes as popularity metrics, because that's
Speaker 2: what you got to do. Sylvia determined that when it
Speaker 2: comes to a solid dad joke structure, people found the
Speaker 2: question and answer framing funnier, such as did you hear
Speaker 2: about the two thieves who stole a calendar? They each
Speaker 2: got six months? Very amusing and in a survey portion
Speaker 2: of the study, people reported that they connected more of
Speaker 2: the jokes that used family characters such as mother's, father's, brothers, sister, grandparents,
Speaker 2: and animals. Topics such as nature, health care, and money resonated,
Speaker 2: whereas those about politics, religion, and war did not.
Speaker 1: Oh really, so, don't use as.
Speaker 2: A topic matter for your dad joke with your kid, war, religion, politics.
Speaker 1: Thanks for that heads up, and.
Speaker 4: We found in our study that dad jokes relating to
Speaker 4: exchange traded funds really stiffed. Again, thank you for your
Speaker 4: valuable research. Wow, dad jokes about death? What the hell, dude?
Speaker 1: Or politics?
Speaker 2: And then at lists here, what are supposedly good dad jokes?
Speaker 2: Why does the Danish military put barcodes on its ships
Speaker 2: so they can scan da native Scandinavian? I got scan?
Speaker 2: Oh Scandinavian? Okay, I didn't right. I'm too dumb for
Speaker 2: that one. How do you catch a unique bird? Unique
Speaker 2: up on it?
Speaker 1: I'd never heard this one before.
Speaker 2: This is pretty funny. I was wondering why the frisbee
Speaker 2: kept getting bigger and bigger. Then it hit me, Oh
Speaker 2: that's so good. Oh oh that's beautiful. I wish I
Speaker 2: had a collection of these when my kids were little.
Speaker 1: This one's The writing on this one is good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The researcher, the PhD Sylvia, said, the most notorious dad
Speaker 2: jokes have an almost irritating quality to them is a
Speaker 2: way they shake up the conversation and engage people. Such
Speaker 2: is when a child says, Dad, I'm hungry Hi hungry,
Speaker 2: I'm dad. Sure has an almost irritating quality.
Speaker 4: All right, true, my mom used to do that at
Speaker 4: say one, I've.
Speaker 1: Done that too, but.
Speaker 2: Without even realizing that it had almost irritating quality. That
Speaker 2: shook up the conversation in a pleasant way. Humor is
Speaker 2: a playful social glue. I've noticed that makes everyone feel
Speaker 2: a little bit better. Yes, I'm a human being also.
Speaker 1: And a little more.
Speaker 4: Wow, it really is explaining humans to humans.
Speaker 2: We know it makes people a little more at ease
Speaker 2: and closer to the people they're with.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes it does.
Speaker 4: Wow. When they print this shit jealous, probably got an
Speaker 4: anti boy PhDs write long papers about it and get
Speaker 4: them inserted into peer reviewed periodicals. Often jokes cause people
Speaker 4: to smile and or laugh, which makes them happy.
Speaker 2: Oh, humor says here human plays an important role in
Speaker 2: our health, relationships and well being. Research shows Thank god
Speaker 2: you've got the research, because if you just made that
Speaker 2: up off the top of your head, can you back.
Speaker 1: Up that statement that humor makes people happier?
Speaker 4: The academizing of human experience. Sometimes it's good and helpful
Speaker 4: helping an addictions, say, or an abusive relationship or something
Speaker 4: like that. But explaining why there are jokes.
Speaker 2: Steven sultan Off, a clinical psychologist and professor at Pepperdine University,
Speaker 2: calls mirth the emotional uplift of humor.
Speaker 4: Sure, he's a long day.
Speaker 2: Even when a joke doesn't elicit a gofa, people may
Speaker 2: still experience the benefit by feeling uplifted by it.
Speaker 1: He said. We know, yes, we know.
Speaker 2: There's also a cognitive response known as wit that it
Speaker 2: can occur with humor.
Speaker 1: Who is this?
Speaker 4: This is killing me?
Speaker 2: To understand a joke, people often need to shift their perspective,
Speaker 2: and studies suggests that this cognitive reframing can help regulate emotions.
Speaker 1: And cope with stress.
Speaker 4: Now that's an interesting concept. That's that's next level.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I'd almost like to hear about that cognitive reframing and
Speaker 4: how that is.
Speaker 1: We've certainly all felt that though.
Speaker 2: When somebody, you know, cracks a joke in a stressful.
Speaker 4: Situation, right, yeah, everything changes, Like you've literally changed your perspective,
Speaker 4: You've moved over here. That's that's okay, Finally something interesting.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's self evident, but like I said, it's
Speaker 4: at least intriguing.
Speaker 2: And he ended with this researcher from Pepperdine. Never trust
Speaker 2: an atom. They make up everything.
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 5: This was my dad's favorite dad joke. He didn't follow
Speaker 5: good advice, But why did the chicken cross the road?
Speaker 5: Because he was being chased by inflation in the economy.
Speaker 5: It wasn't very funny.
Speaker 4: He feared death.
Speaker 1: I was wondering to myself, why does that.
Speaker 2: Frisbee keep getting bigger and bigger?
Speaker 5: And then it hit me, well, I guess that's it.