1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, this is Rachel Nichols. Matt and Stack will 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: be right back on the next drop on this feed. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, we have something special for you. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: All the Smokes. Open Run Show was at the Basketball 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame inductions this past weekend, and we wanted 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: to share some of the fun conversations we had with 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: three of the Hall's newest members, Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard, 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: and Maya Moore. Enjoy listening to some legends. Carmelo Anthony, 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to open Run All the Smoke. We appreciate it. 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: People have been telling you you're a future Hall of 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: Famer for decades now. How surreal does it feel to 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: actually be here? 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: It's here now. It's a lot to put into to worry, 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: it's a lot going on right now. So a lot 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: of perspective, a lot of reflection. I'm here, you know. 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: That's That's I'm satisfying. 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: I say that, does it finally feel that way? 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: It feels It's feel satisfying for sure. I mean, you 19 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: go through so much, you deal with, you deal with 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: so much, but understanding, like when you deal with journeys 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: and careers, like ups and downs, is part of that 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: for sure. 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: This is the time to reflect, look through your whole 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: life as a basketball player. Who made you fall in 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: love with basketball? 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: The struggle, The struggle made me fall in love with basketball. 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 2: I mean my brothers, my brother, my oldest brother, always 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: watching him play. You know, I always love the way 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: that he approached the game. Used to come in the 30 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: house man, and you know his approach was was different 31 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: and I love that, and I just fell in love 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: with with with with the basketball. You know, whether it 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: was a basketball, whether it was a baseball, whether it 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: was a football, whatever it was, I just needed to 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: be active. 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Allen Iverson is of course helping to induct you into 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: the hall. I know he was one of your early influences. 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: How much did you try to be like Alan? 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: I didn't try to be like him. I just wanted 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: to kind of walk his path because I felt like 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: he he was one of the few guys who understood 42 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: what I where I was coming from, and what I 43 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: had to deal with and what I was dealing with. 44 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: So when you have that and you see somebody that 45 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: it's like a mirror image. You know, it's like you 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: going through the same thing that they just went through. 47 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: All over again you have a different connection and then 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to play and alongside him in Denver. Like, 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: that's what our friendship really tightened up, because now I 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: got a chance to see your influence on me and 51 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: up close in person. Every single day I get to 52 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: see how you know again I was tempted. That's basketball royalty. 53 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: So you get a chance to see basketball or royalty 54 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: really lock in and prepare for games and prepare for 55 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: situations basketball alone. What I've learned from him on preparation 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: was his major and then as a friend, as a 57 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: as a friend, as a brother, somebody who he said, Yeah, man, 58 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: you know, how could you not have it out there? 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: You know what? 60 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: I call him our greatest living American. 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, I agree. 62 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: And both you and I are both from Maryland and 63 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: he's from Virginia. So I feel our whole area is. 64 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: Just it's you know, we we working on the DMV thing. 65 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: We work it or trying to bring it all together. 66 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: It's all in there. You mentioned the Denver Nuggets. Things 67 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: have been icy between you and that team since you left. 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: That's the nice way to say it. They have not 69 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: been welcoming of you. 70 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: I got putt of ice. 71 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: But they kind of have made overtures this weekend, they're 72 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: doing a whole campaign for you, saying congratulations for the 73 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Did you not know that? 74 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Again, I 75 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know why I got icy. You 76 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: know what it's again to me, is this this game 77 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: and this sport. It's a business. And at that point 78 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: in time, were talking about a kid in his legal 79 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven years old, still trying 80 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: to figure out their career, still trying to figure out 81 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: their way, having some type of way with all of 82 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: what's going on. It's a little bit of a business 83 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: acumen when it came to that during that point, and 84 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: then the lack of you know, information, Now it's when 85 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: you reflect back on it. I have to like the 86 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets, the city of Denver, like that's where it 87 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: started to me. They gave me those keys at nineteen 88 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: years old to say here, do or die? Like you 89 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: go out there and you figure you figure this out. 90 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: But you know, my love, I don't know what's out there, 91 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: what's being said. But I've never spoken ill towards Denver 92 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: on Denver. My love for Denver will always be it. 93 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: They will always be part of like that foundation of basketball. 94 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: You've been very complimentary to them. They gave nicolayok at 95 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: your jersey number. They done it. 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: Jersey number first. It's like, get rid of this motherfucket 97 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: about it here. 98 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: So what does it mean to you that it seems 99 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: like they are really coming back to you in this. 100 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: Moment patience, timing, maturing, understanding and if they want to 101 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: have a conversation, we can have a conversation. I just 102 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 2: don't know, like talking about going back seventeen years now, 103 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: like it's what we're going to do. 104 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: Well, they can't reach each other. They can't retire your 105 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: jersey right now, so maybe maybe that'll come down the road. 106 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, honestly, even even if that's not 107 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: the case, you know, it's it's my love. Don't waiver 108 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: for that. I love. Don't waiver for them. What they did? 109 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: You know to that to me and to that number 110 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: giving a number away? I mean, of course as an athlete, 111 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: that's a matter who spend time here that are you 112 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: going to feel that? You get you get over it. 113 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: You you understand what's going on your life goes on, 114 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: things happen, many more games come, family kids like it's 115 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: it moves on. 116 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: You're getting so much love this weekend. Also from the 117 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: New York Nexts and their fans. What did it feel 118 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: like this spring to be in the garden, Just the 119 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: electricity with the team doing so well and just the 120 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: people in the stands. I mean, they brought back so 121 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: many former players, and Spike of course is there and 122 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: to Shadow. 123 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: May like the new face of the next move over, 124 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: Spike shallow May got this now. It's a it's a 125 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: beautiful thing being in the garden when you can really 126 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: put that once a Nick, always a nick into fruition 127 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: and you see the people and you see all the players. 128 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: To me like that's the only organization that's out there 129 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: that's actually really doing it. Who could pull that off? 130 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: And it's New York and the guys that come. We 131 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: all come out to support the Knicks. As long as 132 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: they continue doing what they doing on they side, we 133 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: go continue doing what we're doing on the outside. But 134 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: that's just a different love when you when you went 135 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: through those locker rooms and you been through that building, 136 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: and you've been through the highs and the lows, of 137 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: that building. It's a it's a different connection that you 138 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: have with I was. 139 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: Looking over your career and the people who have like 140 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: sort of repped out for you. It is the most 141 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: impressive list in basketball because it starts with Michael Jordan 142 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: and you were the first person that he gave the 143 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: signature shoe line to for Jordan Brand, besides himself of course. 144 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: And I know that he talked to you over the 145 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: years and gave you support and also gave you a 146 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: little tough love. Now and then, what were some of 147 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: the on both sides, What were some of the things 148 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: he said to you. 149 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: The tough love was there. I think the tough love 150 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: was there because he saw what I was, what I 151 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: had to offer, He saw the potential, He saw a partner. 152 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: You know, for me to be like you said, the 153 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: first singasun athlete and Enjodan like, that's a partnership that 154 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: you have that was created with him. So for me 155 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 2: to have that back end and have that support from him, 156 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: it just meant a lot. When a lot of people 157 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: went left, he stayed silent. He stayed, you know, with me. 158 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: He had my back brand wise, company wise, I got him. 159 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: He's with us and when you have that type of 160 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: support you wanted, you want so hard to try to 161 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: just change that for that person. And for me, I 162 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: had to have to realize that, you know, being young 163 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: in his lead, trying to find my way, trying to 164 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: figure it out, wearing a white hat, got the keys 165 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: to a whole city organization, Like, it's a lot that 166 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: comes with that. 167 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: What's some of the best advice he gave you over 168 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: the years? 169 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: Oh, man, you know, he told me one time. Honestly, 170 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: he told me one time he said, you're the only 171 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: one that you're the only one that can control you. 172 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: And when he said down, I'm like, man, you're talking 173 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: about boy. He's like, no, you're the only one. You 174 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: control your own destiny, Like don't don't allow other people 175 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: to put your destiny in their hands. So whatever you do, 176 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: that's what you're gonna get out of it. And it 177 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: took me a while to sit back and really processed 178 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: that and comprehend what the hell he was saying. Again, 179 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: I was young, but as you get older, you were like, 180 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: damn that was that was some real good advice right there. 181 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: You also had Kobe Bryant giving you advice throughout your career. 182 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: That was a different type of advice. We'll tell Kobe 183 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: advice all the time. Was he would watch games and 184 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: he was He would just call me after the game 185 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: and say, why didn't shoot that? 186 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: Of course, Kobe said, why didn't you shoot that? 187 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, why didn't shoot that? Why you pass that? 188 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 4: What? 189 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: What the fuck you doing? Like He's like, that's that's 190 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: just him, you know what I mean? And those little 191 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: he didn't he didn't even have to say much. It 192 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: was just the fact that he was acknowledging, like what 193 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: you're doing, and the fact that he cared that much 194 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: to understand or know what I was thinking, what I 195 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 2: was doing, and I and then I turned the game 196 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: when he's doing the same thing, and why you ain't 197 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: shoot that? Man? You know you know him? So he 198 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: got different excuses at that point. 199 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: I do, well, I love that all of these people 200 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: have meant so much throughout your career, and I love 201 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: that they're all going to sort of be here to 202 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: celebrate you. Obviously not Kobe, but I love I was 203 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: gonna say, he's here in spirit. I love that so 204 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: many people have come to support you, even your old 205 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: team that maybe I see and it's indicative the ice 206 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: is thawing, but it's indicative of what you've done and 207 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: the way you bring people together. And congratulations, appreciate it. 208 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: You've been interview with me since I was eighteen. 209 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I can chapter and verse 210 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: every moment of this Hall of Fame career because I 211 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: was for every step. Dwight Howard Hall of Famer, Double 212 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. You're being inducted two times this weekend, 213 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: which we'll get to in the moment, but welcome to 214 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: open run. With all the smoke. We were just talking 215 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: as you were sitting down. When was the start of 216 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: me interviewing you. 217 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 5: Since I was eighteen years old. You have been interviewing 218 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 5: me since I was a JIT, and now I'm heading 219 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 5: into the Hall of Fame. 220 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: That is crazy. We both still look the. 221 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: Same, We're the same age. Really, it's amazing, same age. 222 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: This is this is incredible, remarkable. 223 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: When you look back through that career, I mean I 224 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: can think of so many incredible high points, so many 225 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: points where you were just like, man, this isn't going 226 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: how I want to. What do you look at as 227 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,119 Speaker 1: the thing You're most proud. 228 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 5: Of the fact that I just stayed resilient through it all. 229 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of times when situations are you know, 230 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 5: storm come come our way, we tend to allow it 231 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 5: to deeter our path or stop us from going and 232 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 5: getting us to where we want to get to. 233 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 3: And I don't think it did, you know, And I'm 234 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: just grateful. 235 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 5: That, you know, for all the friends and family and 236 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 5: the people that are you know, stuck by me and 237 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 5: stuck with me through these incredible times. 238 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: To make it to this point is amazing. 239 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: What's been the scariest part of this Hall of Fame career. 240 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 5: The scariest part was actually after my I want to say, 241 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 5: my eighth or ninth eighth season in Orlando, and the 242 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 5: doctor actually told me that would be my last year 243 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 5: playing basketball. Come on, yeah, that's what I ended up 244 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 5: having the back surgery and that would have been my 245 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 5: last year. And so, you know, that was probably the 246 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 5: most scariest part, is knowing that hearing the doctor say, Dwight, 247 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 5: this is it, this is your last time playing. So 248 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 5: I'm just so grateful that, you know, I got past 249 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: that store and we're here today. 250 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: We would have been having a much different conversation. 251 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: We probably wouldn't be here today. 252 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: When you think back over all the people that had 253 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: influence over you. I know, there's so many people who 254 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: are just so kind and supportive to you. Who's the player, coach, 255 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: media member who ray really gave you all the smoke 256 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: but actually helped you in challenging you, helped you in 257 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: your career. 258 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: You know, it was so difficult back then. 259 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 5: But I think when we came into the league, you know, 260 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 5: everyone was saying he got to stay off social media 261 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 5: when it first came out. You know, don't worry about 262 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 5: what people are saying. But I would say, for me, 263 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 5: every person that was in the media that I came across, 264 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 5: no matter what they said, I still loved them. You know, 265 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 5: It's like, why would I get upset? You know, I 266 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 5: realized that, hey, they have to do what they have 267 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 5: to do to survive, and I'm doing the same thing. 268 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 5: And so once I really came to that realization, you know, 269 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: it was like, it's no, I have no issue with 270 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 5: anybody on the media or anybody because what they're doing. 271 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: Is trying to get to the Hall of Fame. We're 272 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: all trying to make it. 273 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 5: And I'm just thankful that I had that opportunity to 274 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 5: go through those little issues and learn because it's made 275 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 5: me who I am today. 276 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: You know, the whole reason I'm on social media at all, 277 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: have any accounts is because of you, because you sat 278 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: me down when Twitter started and said, Rach, you gotta 279 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: do this, you gotta do this. 280 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: Crazy. 281 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 5: I remember when Twitter was out and I was doing 282 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 5: the periscope and we were trying to figure everything out, 283 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 5: and people's like, you shouldn't be doing social media, and 284 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 5: I'm like, hold up, man, I got to get on 285 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 5: it and you didn't know what to do. 286 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: And then now it's like the roles are reversed. 287 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure out how to do social media 288 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 5: and Twitter and all that stuff, and you the queen 289 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 5: of it. 290 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: Twitter didn't even exist anymore. But yeah, no, we got it. 291 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: We got it. 292 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking about I forgot. 293 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: I'm old. 294 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: We're talking about people who gave you the smoke or whatever. 295 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: But you know, your relationship with Kobe is something that 296 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: I watch go up and down and everything over the years. 297 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: What was sort of the crux of the moment with 298 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: you guys where it got really real and how did 299 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: you go on from there? 300 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 5: Well, see, I just think that we were in two 301 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 5: different parts of our career and you know, at one point, 302 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 5: I was just coming off an injury, coming to a 303 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 5: new team with a new situation, new franchise, and you know, 304 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 5: at that time, you know, I'm like, man, one day, 305 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: I want to be that franchise player for this team 306 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 5: as well. And you know, Kobe's in a position where 307 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 5: it's like, hey, this has been my team, you know forever. 308 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 5: You ain't finna just take it like that. And I 309 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 5: think what he really was wanting from me was to 310 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 5: see how bad I really wanted it. And I just 311 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 5: think that with the communication, you know, really wasn't there, 312 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 5: but I think he saw how bad I wanted it 313 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: when we came back in twenty twenty and. 314 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: Got the championship. 315 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: As say, I saw some really nice moments between you 316 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: guys back then that. 317 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 5: You know, the last time I saw him, he kind 318 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 5: of slapped me in the back of my head. It's 319 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 5: like pina head and hit me in the back of 320 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 5: the head when I was shooting in corner threes and 321 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: got a picture with my son and him before he passed. 322 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, I wish he would have been here today 323 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 5: to receive his Hall of Fame times too exactly as well. 324 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: But I know he's with us in spirit. Yeah. 325 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: The second part of your Hall of Fame induction is 326 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: because you are also, in addition to being inducted as 327 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: an individual, you're being inducted as a member of the 328 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: redeem Team. You were the youngest guy on that team. 329 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: What was that like with all the luminaries on there 330 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: that Kobe was of course on that team as well. 331 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: It was like a blur. 332 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 5: It happened so fast, and looking back on him, like, man, 333 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 5: I really didn't understand what I was in here. I 334 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 5: am playing with the greatest basketball players, you know, Kobe Bryant, 335 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 5: Jason Kidd in his prime, Lebron is just getting into 336 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 5: the league and start killing people, Carmelo Ballhead, d Wade, 337 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 5: Michael red is an All Star, you know, just superstar 338 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 5: at this time. So it's like, man, man, I'm nineteen 339 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: years old, fresh out of high school? 340 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: What is this? 341 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 5: And you know, that was one of the craziest but 342 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 5: most fulfilling experiences of my life being able to be 343 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 5: aside greats like Kobe Bryant and Lebron James and win 344 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 5: a champion went not a championship. 345 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: But a gold medal. 346 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: We always hear about the scrimmages for Team USA, because 347 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: sometimes that was more competitive than the actual games. All right, 348 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: so tell me the Jason Kidds story. Scrimmage. Then he 349 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: scrimmage with Kobe and go at each other, and there's 350 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: a couple other ones, him and Lebron. I think at 351 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: one point Jason was was trying to get the young 352 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: guys to get a rest to. 353 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: My own world, like literally, like you gotta think wide. 354 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: I nineteen year old. 355 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 5: I'm coming from Southwest Atlanta Christian Academy, this small school 356 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 5: in the center of ben Hill, never been anywhere, and 357 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 5: now here it is. I'm playing with all these guys 358 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 5: in front of the whole world. I didn't know what 359 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: I didn't know what was going on. And you know, 360 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 5: Chris Bosh, thankful for him and Carlos Boozer. These guys 361 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: had experienced, you know, on a professional level and all 362 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 5: that stuff. 363 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: So I just followed their lead. 364 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 5: But I was just so grateful to be there and 365 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 5: now to be enshrine with these guys. 366 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 367 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: You were young when you came into the league. You 368 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: had some habits. Dwight Howard. I remember all the candy, 369 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: so much candy that I did. 370 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: Used to eat. 371 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 5: Well, I still do eat candy. You know, it's so crazy. 372 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 5: I think it came for my grandfather. You know, he 373 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 5: had a candy store and he would always allow us 374 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 5: to get as much candy as we wanted. So shout 375 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 5: out to Granddaddy Ben being Strobridge. He had the only 376 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 5: one of the first stores in Swainsboro, Georgia, and that's 377 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 5: where I got my candy addiction from. 378 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: And it went crazy. 379 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 5: When I got to the NBA, it was like magnified 380 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 5: times one hundred. 381 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: And it helped me win games. So shout out to 382 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: Skittles Starburst. You help me make it to the Hall 383 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 3: of Fame. I appreciate this man. 384 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Had candy everywhere in his car and his locker and 385 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: his bag. Anyway. All right, so some of the people 386 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: who were key to your career, I'm thinking about standing Gunny, right, that's. 387 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 5: The first person that just popped up in my head 388 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 5: as soon as you said that. I don't believe that 389 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 5: I'll be a Hall of Famer without Staff. What he 390 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: has meant to me over the years, how he pushed me. Uh, 391 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 5: he was the one who pushed me more than anybody. 392 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 5: So he wanted me to stay away from like you said, 393 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 5: the media and stuff like that. 394 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: But he was on me if I. 395 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 5: And it didn't take much, you know, And you know, 396 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 5: I appreciate the fact that, you know, he gave me 397 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 5: room to grow, but he also was on my case heavy, 398 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 5: and I appreciate that. And I really appreciate Otis Smith, 399 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 5: you know, for Ashley believing in me and drafted me 400 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 5: as an eighteen year old kid. So it really started 401 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 5: with ODIs Smith when everybody else was going against it 402 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 5: and saying, you should get this kid a Mecca OCA 403 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 5: for out of college, who's proven he's won and. 404 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: Stuff like that. But Oldis saw something different. So shout 405 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: out to older Smith. 406 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: What's your relationship with Stan right now? 407 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 5: Actually, you know, we have a pretty good relationship. Actually, 408 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 5: during the playoffs, we were texting a lot and I 409 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 5: was telling him how good he was doing on TV. 410 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: Mister media, by the way, now. 411 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 5: He's actually he's I told him, he's really funny and 412 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 5: he's really good at describing the game. And the thing 413 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 5: I like about it is because that's how he was 414 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 5: with us, and that's how I got really so good 415 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 5: at on the defensive end because of how he was 416 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 5: very detailed. So shout out to Stan Man, He's doing 417 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 5: an awesome job. 418 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: So you reconciled with Kobe, You reconciled with Stan, and 419 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: now Shaquille and Hill is going to be a fun 420 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: stage inducting you into the Hall of Fame, which might 421 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: be the biggest reconciliation of all. I talked to you 422 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: and him a couple of weeks ago. We were down 423 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: in I think or Dallas together. How did this come about? 424 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 5: It was crazy because you know, I don't know how 425 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 5: me and him have ever got to this place. And 426 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 5: I really I feel like it's all miscommunication and other 427 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 5: people outside noise and stuff like that. And I remember 428 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 5: doing Carmelo's show seven Brooklyn, seven thirty Brooklyn, and I 429 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 5: was like, man, next time I see shack Man, I'm 430 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 5: gonna just talk to him wherever I'm at whatever. We 431 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 5: just got to talk. Like this is too much. And 432 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 5: so when I got inducted into the Magic Hall of Fame, 433 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 5: I ended up seeing Shaq at. 434 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 3: A hookah lounge. 435 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: You just ran into, just. 436 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 5: Ran into shack out of nowhere, just and I'm like 437 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 5: this is crazy. So I'm like, man, I'm finna go 438 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 5: talk to him. Yeah, So we get a little room, 439 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 5: we sit down and you know, we have a conversation 440 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 5: and it got better from there, and I'm just grateful 441 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 5: for it because, you know, one, you know, we represent, 442 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 5: you know, so much for our people, not just you know, 443 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 5: the basketball fans, but people around the world who just 444 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 5: have lost hope because of you know, just little petty 445 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 5: beefs and stuff like that, and we represent so much 446 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 5: more than you know, allowing those little things to affect us. 447 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 5: And if we can reconcile, if we could get back 448 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 5: on the same page and everybody could do that. You know, 449 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 5: we've had I guess there's beef for so many years. 450 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 5: But to see now that you know, it's no more 451 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 5: than that we can both move together in peace and 452 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 5: really fulfill the purpose that we're supposed to together. You know, 453 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 5: there's room enough in this world for two superman. So 454 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 5: you know, I'm just grateful that he's going to be 455 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 5: walking me out and it's a big honor. I remember 456 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 5: watching him in eleventh grade in high school when they 457 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 5: were playing in the finals against the Sixers, and at 458 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 5: that time, I really didn't know who Shaq was until 459 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 5: I saw this series and I was like, dang, I'm 460 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 5: going to have to be playing against him in a 461 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 5: couple of years. 462 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to have to lift some weights. 463 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 5: But I can't wait until now to have him walk 464 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 5: me into the Hall of Fame. 465 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: Thank you. 466 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: He told me a couple of weeks ago, he was 467 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: proud of you. What does what does that hear? What 468 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: does that say? What does it make you feel when 469 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: you hear that? 470 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 6: You want to tell you, Rachel, I'm really proud of them. 471 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 6: He's done an amazing job. He didn't allow anything that 472 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 6: I said to deter him office his path. He's made 473 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 6: it to the Hall of Fame. Now he can be 474 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 6: in that G fourteen classifying conversation that he's always wanted 475 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 6: to be in. 476 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: I'm proud of him. 477 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: Very good. 478 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, can I get your stand in personation? 479 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 7: I knew it. 480 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 4: I knew it soon as I got to be your coach. 481 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 4: I saw you dunk that ball. I saw you run 482 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 4: up and grab the rim and block those shots. I said, 483 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 4: we're going far, and then you cut me off the 484 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 4: white I was so mad. I was mad, But it's 485 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 4: okay because I still love Joey ass boy. I love 486 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: you to death. I don't know what it is about you, boy, 487 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: but I love you and congratulations. 488 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 7: Man, Will you. 489 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: Do me a favor, with our friendship being as long 490 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: and as many decades since it's been, do not impersonate me. 491 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave you alone. 492 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna just stick to you know, the stay in 493 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 5: the shack and Charles sometimes. 494 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, I won't. I won't mess with you like. 495 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: That for you just sort of reaching this moment. I 496 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: know it's not the end you've been. You know, in 497 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: the Big Three this past season, I watched you close 498 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: up just really grow with that. What does it mean 499 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: to you to still be playing basketball? But overseas and. 500 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 3: Three I enjoy it. 501 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: You know, it's an opportunity to continue to grow the 502 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 5: game of basketball. It's an opportunity to give fans a 503 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 5: chance who maybe didn't get a chance to see me 504 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 5: at a younger age see me now play. But also 505 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 5: the Big Three has and what ice Cube has done 506 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 5: over the last eight nine years has really given guys 507 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 5: an opportunity to continue to live out their dream of 508 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: playing basketball and play. 509 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: On a high level. 510 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 5: You know, it's so much fun going into these different cities, 511 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 5: playing in front of new fans. You know, playing three 512 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 5: on three is a whole different vibe. So I'm looking 513 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 5: forward to next year. I'm looking forward to actually doing 514 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 5: some ice Cube movies. I love seeing ice Cube on 515 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 5: the sideline saying hey, hey, hey, but it's so fun. 516 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 5: It's so much fun. 517 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: I love it. 518 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm adding Cube to your impersonation list again. Please here. 519 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: Congratulations Dwight Howard, thank you so much. Congratulations Via Maura 520 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: making the Hall of Fame. Welcome to open run with 521 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: all the smoke, Let's just go back to the beginning. 522 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: Who did you watch that made you really fall in 523 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: love with basketball? 524 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 7: Got to be the Houston comments. Cynthi Cooper, Cheryl Swoons, 525 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 7: Tina Thompson, and Jeanette Arkane raised the roof all the 526 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 7: hype like that just I fell in love back in 527 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 7: those late nineties early two thousands. 528 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: How did that team was just so electric? How did 529 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: they make you sort of feel what was possible? 530 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: You know? 531 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 7: I think it was actually one of those things where 532 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 7: I was unconsciously become like I wasn't conscious that what 533 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 7: was happening in my mind and how I saw myself. 534 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 7: It was just a natural thing of like, oh, they're 535 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 7: doing it, so I can do it. And I just 536 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 7: kept playing the game because I loved it, and one 537 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 7: door led to another, and I looked up and I 538 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 7: was getting the opportunities to become one of those players 539 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 7: one day. 540 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: You were getting the opportunities to multiple finals, multiple MVPs. Well, 541 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: what's the moment in your basketball journey that you look 542 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: back on and you think, I am really proud of that, man. 543 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 7: I would probably say, I mean, obviously just twenty sixteen 544 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 7: when we started to use our voice and to speak 545 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 7: out as human beings, right, Like, I think that's the 546 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 7: best part of sports, is when you are in a 547 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 7: situation where you're appreciating the talent, but you're also remembering 548 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 7: their humanity and our humanity. So that's really been I 549 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 7: think my most proud aspect of being on a stage 550 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 7: or on a platform is to use my voice on 551 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 7: my platform to remind us all, Hey, we're human beings 552 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 7: and we got to be better to each other. So 553 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 7: I was really proud of the way we didn't just 554 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 7: be machines and just go out and shoot, but we 555 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 7: actually protected our humanity and encourage other people to do 556 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 7: the same, because at the end of the day, that's 557 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 7: the greatest championship is being the best human being we 558 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 7: can our communities. 559 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you what's the scariest moment 560 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: of your basketball career, but you may be the same thing. 561 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, you tell me. 562 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 7: I mean, that was a scary moment of like, hey, 563 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 7: we're gonna throw a big old wrench in the wheel 564 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 7: that just keeps going around and around and around to say, hey, 565 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 7: we're humans and we're sad and we're hurting, and we 566 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 7: want to help stop the suffering. So that was a 567 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 7: scary moment. It was also scary when I walked away 568 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 7: from the game in twenty eighteen that was my last 569 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 7: year and going into the unknown of trying to follow 570 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 7: this purposeful path that I felt like I needed to 571 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 7: go on. So that was pretty scary, but it worked out. 572 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: When you look back on that decision, are you completely 573 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: happy with it? Do you think what if? How do 574 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: you feel about it now? 575 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 7: I'm super proud. I'm a really thoughtful person. Like I 576 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 7: try to, I almost I would err on the side 577 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 7: of overthinking things, and so I'm really proud of the 578 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 7: thought and the time and the wisdom that I sought 579 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 7: in every move that I made. Because I really do 580 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 7: value my Minnesota family, the WNBA basketball family. So to 581 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 7: walk away from something like that, I wanted to make 582 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 7: sure that it was for good reasons and being very thoughtful. 583 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 7: So I have no regrets. 584 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty incredible. You walked away literally at 585 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: the height of your power, and you're still here in 586 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. They're like, oh, yeah, just a 587 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: portion of a career is good enough with maya more. 588 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: How proud are you of that? 589 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, super proud And honestly, my biggest secret, which should 590 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 7: be out by now, is that I was on the 591 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 7: best teams. Like I got drafted to the Links right, 592 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 7: to Simona Augustus, to Lindsay Whalen, to Rebecca Brunson. That's 593 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 7: not normal, right, So the success that I had early 594 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 7: was so much because of what I couldn't control, which 595 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 7: was being drafted to a championship ready team that was 596 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 7: just struggling with injuries the year before and just kind 597 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 7: of barely missing it. So USA basketball playing with legends right, 598 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 7: going overseas and just grinding and getting championships over there. 599 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 7: So I'm just super grateful going to Connecticut right playing 600 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 7: with other greats and cultures that I just added too. 601 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 7: So I'm standing here very appropriately next to like cyl 602 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 7: and Sue, who were other superstars that I got to 603 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 7: play with and went with. 604 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: You got in particular, it's not a like babyish environment. 605 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: They're not sitting around telling you how great you are. 606 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: Was there a coach that coach, or a player, a 607 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: fellow player or media member or someone who you had 608 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: all that smoke with but actually made you better? 609 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: Hmmm? 610 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 7: I mean, like you said, obviously Gino was going to 611 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 7: push every button that he could possibly find. You know, 612 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 7: I think our assistant coaches did a good job of 613 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 7: also like challenging me, but supporting me, knowing how much 614 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 7: pressure I put on myself because I'm somebody who leads 615 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 7: the charge and putting the pressure on and so I 616 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 7: think actually my coaches sometimes had to be the ones 617 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 7: that remind me, hey, it's okay, like you can pull 618 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 7: back some or don't put so much pressure on yourself. 619 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 7: As a young person I was, I was just putting 620 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 7: a lot of pressure on myself to be great. 621 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: But you had to smoke with you. 622 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 7: I had to smoke with me. Yeah, I mean that's 623 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 7: I guess, that's what I'm saying. And it's a lot 624 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 7: of self pressure or that I had to learn how 625 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 7: to balance, and our coaches and my teammates, you know, 626 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 7: helped me and have my back. Yeah, for sure. 627 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: It's funny hearing you say, oh, you grew up watching 628 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: Cynthia Cooper and the Rockets, because Paige Becker's talks about 629 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: she grew up in Minnesota and she watched you and 630 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: idolized you and that's why she went to Yukon. Do 631 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: you see any of yourself in her game or her 632 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: personality or her swagger? 633 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 7: I mean, kind of the selfless superstar that Yukon puts 634 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 7: out right, like that is just something that has to 635 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 7: be It has to be in you. But it's also 636 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 7: cultivated at Yukon because like you, like we talked about, 637 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 7: when you're at Yukon, you're not going there to get 638 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 7: kissed up too. You know, you are going to get 639 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 7: pushed and you're gonna get told about yourself. So I 640 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 7: think there's a humility that comes out of playing for 641 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 7: a program like Yukon. And she just wants to win. 642 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 7: She just wants to help her team win, right Like 643 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 7: I didn't care who got the credit whatever, I just 644 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 7: wanted to help my team win. And she has that 645 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 7: same that same mindset, but I don't. I'd say she 646 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 7: had even more poised than I had as a younger player, 647 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 7: Like she's so poised when she's out there, you know 648 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 7: I had. I had a I think, a kind of 649 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 7: a grit and a look in my eye that's kind 650 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 7: of hard to imitate that. There's just an intensity that 651 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 7: I brought from day one at Yukon. But I just 652 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 7: love to see that culture in that that way of 653 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 7: leadership still still thriving. 654 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: When you look when you look at where women's basketball is, 655 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: where the w in particular is, do you think, oh man, 656 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: look at how far we've come, or do you think, 657 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: oh man, these people have no idea how much further 658 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: we can go. 659 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 7: It's kind of I'm kind of torn right now because 660 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 7: there's always this pressure in the US marketplace to make 661 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 7: people products sure, and I am like the opposite of that, 662 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 7: right Like, that's like the opposite of what I stand 663 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 7: for of wanting to humanize everybody. So I do appreciate, 664 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 7: obviously players getting paid more their value, but I also 665 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 7: don't want it to be at the expense of their humanity. 666 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 7: So I kind of have mixed feelings of like, hey, 667 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 7: let's make sure we're staying, you know, true to our 668 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 7: humanity right, which I appreciate players having voices right, getting 669 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 7: to speak and be seen and to show who they are. 670 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 7: And w BA players I think are very community minded 671 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 7: just in general. So I love that. But we just 672 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 7: we got to be careful to make sure that we 673 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 7: stay true to being human as we are on these stages. 674 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: Love that you left the game to become an advocate 675 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: for social justice causes. How have you redefined success? 676 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 7: M success? It's a great question. 677 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 678 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 7: I think success, just in our shallow attempts at trying 679 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 7: to find significance, can be connected to numbers and money 680 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 7: and status and appearance and who you know, and you 681 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 7: know those things are what they are. But I've just 682 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 7: learned that life is so much about the quality of 683 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 7: your relationships. A relationship with your creator, relationship with people, 684 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 7: a relationship with creation and nature, like all these things 685 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 7: we were meant to have healthy relationships with. If those 686 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 7: things are off, your life ain't gonna work like It's 687 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 7: just you're not gonna be as happy. And so stepping 688 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 7: away from the game has allowed me to nurture more 689 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 7: of those relationships and it's ongoing, right, I'm not perfect. 690 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 7: I'm still in progress and in process. But that's how 691 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 7: I'm defining sus. The success these days is how can 692 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 7: I bring some more peace to some of these relationships 693 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 7: today and gives me a lot of joy and satisfaction 694 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 7: at night, even though no one may may see it. 695 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: You always had such a three sixty approach to the 696 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: game and the people you were with. You were one 697 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 1: of the players I brought up to my daughters all 698 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: the time about this is who you should be. Like, 699 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: what do you tell young women now when they come 700 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: to you and they want advice? Who are young basketball 701 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: players or just in the world. 702 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, advice build your team, like you got to have 703 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 7: people around you that you know look out for you 704 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 7: as a person, but also take time to check in 705 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 7: with yourself. I think we can move so fast and 706 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 7: get caught up in things that are so quick, Like, 707 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 7: don't shy away from the things that are going to 708 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 7: take time. Things take time, and that's okay. Like the 709 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 7: best things in life have to be seasoned and grown 710 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 7: and worked out. Like you're not gonna have everything right now. 711 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 7: Don't be afraid to wait and to go through your process. 712 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 7: It's not it's not all or nothing. Every decision isn't 713 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 7: going to be the biggest decision of your life. And 714 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 7: so I think when we're young sometimes we just get 715 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 7: so anxious and feel pressured to have to make quick 716 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 7: decisions and fast things. But just slow down, have a 717 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 7: wise counsel around you. Get connected with people who've gone 718 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 7: before you. That was my secret. I hung out with 719 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 7: vets like I just followed them around. Can I eat 720 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,240 Speaker 7: with you, like tell me about this? Or watching them? 721 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 7: Remember watching Sue when I was a baby on the 722 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 7: team and see how she took care of her body 723 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 7: and just wanted to imitate that or a care of 724 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 7: losson and yeah, surround yourself with people who are ahead 725 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 7: of you on the journey and do your best to 726 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 7: learn and to listen and it's okay to be on 727 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 7: a journey. 728 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: Well, clearly it worked. Hall of Famer congratulations, Thank you 729 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: so so much,