1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travison buck Sexton 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Thursday 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: edition of the program. We are absolutely loaded down. Kaylee mcininey, 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: formerly with the Trump White House, the spokesperson there, now 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: with Fox News. She will join us, as will Senator 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Rand Paul. Plus, we are going to be joined by 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: one of the writers at OutKick, the site that I 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: run for a story that he has broken and I 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: want to open up with that. We've been talking about 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: buck the idea of a transgender swimmer. This was a 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: three year swimmer at the University of Pennsylvania, a man 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: who was a successful swimmer obviously, as he was swimming 13 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: in college at the University of Pennsylvania in the Ivy League. 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: He took a year off and then came back as 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: a member of the women's swimming team. And since that 16 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: has happened, the records are through the roof that this 17 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: swimmer is setting. This swimmer one a biological man swimming 18 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: with a group of women, won by thirty eight seconds, 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: annihilation of the second place swimmer. And the question has 20 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: been asked, what do the women who were on the 21 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: team the biological women on the team think about having 22 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: a transgender swimmer. Well, we talked about this buck many 23 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: of them, and we're going to talk to the writer 24 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: of this article who's been talking to some of these 25 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: Penn swimmers who have reached out to OutKick and are 26 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: telling us what they think as women swimmers about having 27 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: a biological man who is rushing them. And here are 28 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: some quotes. Pretty much everyone individually has spoken to our 29 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: coaches about not liking this. This is a Pen women's swimmer. 30 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: Our coach just really likes winning. He's like most coaches. 31 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I think secretly everyone knows it's the wrong thing to do. 32 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: When the whole team is together, we have to be like, 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Goliah, that's great, you're amazing. It's very fake. 34 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: She added a couple of other quotes from this Pen 35 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: swimmer who talked to OutKick. And by the way, another 36 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: member of Depends women's swimming team is going to be 37 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: up tomorrow morning with her own quotes. One year doesn't 38 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: mean anything in regards to sitting out. What about the 39 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: years of puberty as a male, the male growth you 40 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: went through as a man. And then she said at 41 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: the end, end, of the article. Something that I think 42 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: really really sticks home here when I have kids. This 43 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: pen women swimmer said, I kind of hope they're all boys, 44 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: because if I have any girls that want to play 45 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: sports in college, good luck. Their opponents are all gonna 46 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,559 Speaker 1: be biological men saying they're women. Right now, we have one, 47 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: but what if we had three on the team, There'd 48 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: be three less girls competing. That final quote to me, Buck, 49 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: and these pen women swimmers are so terrified to actually 50 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: go public. They reached out privately to OutKick after we 51 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: had written about this because they go to an Ivy 52 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: League school. Buck, you went to an East Coast school. 53 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: You can imagine these girls are afraid. Will they get 54 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: into grad school, will they be called transphobic? Will they 55 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: be able to get a job in the Northeast if 56 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: they come out and say, we don't think it's right 57 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: for a biological man to be competing against us. But 58 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: this is where the transgender agenda inevitably ends, in my opinion, 59 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: with the destruction of women's sports. Well, this is why 60 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: when they say that men can get pregnant, it's important 61 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: to say no, that's a lie. This is why when 62 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: the left says a man can become a woman, or 63 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: a woman can become a man. It's important to say no, 64 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: that's a lie, because the moment you surrender reality to 65 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: their political whims, they can mold it to whatever purpose 66 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: they see fit. They can change as they need to 67 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 1: in the circumstances of the moment. And what we're seeing 68 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: is just the end stage of the trans agenda's incrementalism, 69 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: which I've been talking about this specific issue for ten years, 70 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: and at every phase we say, well, you know what's next, 71 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: here's what's next, and they say, don't be bigoted, that 72 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: will never happen. Then to years passes, and sure enough, 73 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: there are twelve year old boys using the same bathrooms 74 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: and changing facilities as a twelve year old girls. And 75 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: if you oppose that, they say you're a bigot. You 76 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: can actually see some mirror imaging. I think here of 77 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: you know Fauci a year ago. Oh no, we don't 78 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: want vaccine mandates. I know we'll get into this in 79 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: a few moments, but now it's sorry, Yeah, I kind 80 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: of like freedom, but I like mandates more. Right, And 81 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: we say, hold on, you used to say that you 82 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: would never do this, and now you're doing it. What happened. 83 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: What change? They push until they meet the resistance, and 84 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: then they back off a little. And then they push 85 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: until they meet their resistance and they back off a little. 86 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: This has been what the progressive left has done on 87 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: all cultural and you know, a culture war issue so 88 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: to speak. The transagenda very high up on the list. 89 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: And now we're at that place where you have women who, 90 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, Clay, you spent a lot of time speaking 91 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: to and following and involved in sports. I know from 92 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: friends of mine, even in a D three school who 93 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: went to Amherst College, they spend a tremendous amount of 94 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: time at a very young age, often on their sport. 95 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: It's important to them, right, There's something about being the 96 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: best they can be at that level. Yeah, a lot 97 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: of them aren't going to go pro and all that fine, 98 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: but it matters to them. And this is there are 99 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: women who are being humiliated. I mean, that's a part 100 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: of this and that's why they're coming to you an OutKick. 101 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: They are being humiliated, not just in the loss. And 102 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: this is why I think the piece on OutKick is 103 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: so important. It's not just we're losing to this person 104 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: or even our records are being broken. The social pressure 105 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: to then have to celebrate that. It feels very soviet, 106 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: doesn't it. It It really feels like the commies are running 107 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: things when you have to say, yeah, the biological male 108 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: also known as a man who is swimming against the 109 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: women in the pool and winning is not something that 110 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: we should have to celebrate. It's wrong and every reasonable 111 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: rational person knows it's wrong. And that's why these women 112 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: coming out and speaking out about this, I think is 113 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: so important because they're telling us what we all know. 114 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: And it's your point, Buck, and I know you find 115 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: this unbelievable. OutKick is probably the only sports media site 116 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: almost on the entire Internet that would even allow these 117 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: girls to talk and will tell their story. Just think 118 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: about how crazy that is for the world that we 119 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: live in. ESPN wouldn't do this story, CBS wouldn't do 120 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 1: this story, NBC wouldn't do this story. Almost no other 121 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: sports media outlet would allow these girls to have a voice. 122 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 1: And think about this also for a minute. Title nine 123 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: is about saying, hey, women are the equal of men. 124 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: For people out there who haven't paid a lot of 125 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: attention to Title nine, it requires that there be equal 126 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: scholarships given in colleges for men and women. This represents 127 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: buck the direct the direct conflict between feminists people who say, hey, 128 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: girl power were as good as men, we deserve as 129 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: many scholarships as men, and now the transgender agenda where 130 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: men are now taking over women's sports, and the easy 131 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: solution here isn't very clear to me because if you 132 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: just say, hey, okay, do away with sex based classifications 133 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: for sports, we're not going to have men's and women's 134 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: sports anymore. Women don't make any teams and they don't win. Ever, 135 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: they don't even make the teams. Buck there. If you 136 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: had men's soccer and women's soccer, and you just made 137 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: it soccer, there would never be a woman who played 138 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: on a high level soccer team once puberty occurs, because 139 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: men are so much better. Same thing for basketball, there 140 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: would be no women's basketball. There would just be men 141 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: who played basketball. And so this transgender from male to 142 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: female competition threatens, Like the quote that I read of 143 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: her at the end, if there are two or three 144 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: or four transgender athletes on a team, they win every 145 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: championship and there is no longer any women's sports. That 146 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: is where we are headed. It is a reality that 147 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: people refuse to acknowledge. Right, what we saw before this 148 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: with Laurel Hubbard was somebody who was not that good, 149 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: so did not break all the records. It was only 150 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: a matter of time before someone came along who was 151 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: an elite athlete as a male and then decided to 152 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: transition in that sport and beat everybody. We have seen 153 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: this years ago with a transgender MMA fighter, which I mean, 154 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: I think, honest gross, just be illegal. I mean, I 155 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: think that's the grotesque. I think everybody should know that. 156 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: But but there's also the broader sense that we should 157 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: have that the corporate media apparatus, or the Democrat Party, 158 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party overall, Nancy Pelosi, any prominent Democrat right now, 159 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: have you sat them down on TV and you asked them, 160 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: does this seem right to you? They will not condemn it. 161 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: So this is not a minor issue. This is not 162 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: something we're blowing out of proportion and oh, what's the 163 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: big deal. They are either cowards or complicit in this 164 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: massive lie. Completely sit in this Soviet style erasing of 165 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: the obvious truth. This isn't a complicated matter, right, This 166 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: isn't you know? How long are we going to deal 167 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: with COVID or what do we do with all the vaccines? 168 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: This is men are bigger, stronger, and fashion than women 169 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: because of biology. Right, we also grow facial hair and 170 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: there are other things we all know that are different 171 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: than women and that we're supposed to negate that because 172 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: it is fashionable on the left, because it makes them 173 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: feel good. I mean, think about what do they really 174 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: accomplish with this, other than knowing they have the power 175 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: to get rational people to debase themselves publicly by going 176 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: along with the lie. And I know this might and 177 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, warning everybody about incrementalism before you say, oh, 178 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: but buckets just on this issue. Really, it's just on 179 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: this issue. As you see all those people walking around 180 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: wearing masks outside, it's only the people that you know. 181 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: It's only on transgender issues that you have to live 182 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: by lies. I don't think so. I think Joe Biden 183 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: should get asked about this, yep, and have to go 184 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: on the record. I mean, there's a lot of people 185 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: who cover the White House that listened to this show. 186 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: Does Joe Biden, who by the way, played high level 187 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: sports his whole life before obviously moving into politics. There's 188 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: no way that seventy eight year old Joe Biden believes 189 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: that a biological man should be beating the crap in 190 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: swimming out of women. But I think he should get 191 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: asked about it because you know what, I think he'll why. 192 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: And this ties in, by the way, also with Dave Chappelle, 193 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: because Dave Chappelle is not allowed to make a joke 194 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: at Netflix because somebody who's transgender might be offended. When 195 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: we come back, doctor Fauci has gone off the rails again. 196 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: He wants to give you Christmas instructions for everybody out there. 197 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, the Tunnel of the Towers Foundation 198 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: making the holidays brighter for our nation's gold star and 199 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: fallen first responder families with young kids. 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Play in Fuck 216 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: inspired by Russia the Next Generation because it's just too 217 00:12:50,160 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: important on the EiV network. One thing that vaccinated people 218 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: can feel comfortable. For example, let's take the holiday setting. 219 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: You're with your family, you have grandparents and parents and children. 220 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: When you get vaccinated, and you have a vaccinated group 221 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: and you are in an indoor setting, you can enjoy 222 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: as we have traditionally over the years, dinners and gatherings 223 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: within the home with people who have vaccinated. And that's 224 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: the reason why people should if they invite people over 225 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: their home, essentially ask and maybe require that people show 226 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: evidence that they have vaccinated. You know, Clay doctor Fauci 227 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: here is basically telling you you can have a very 228 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: merry Christmas this year. Just just make sure that any 229 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: of your loved ones maintain a safe distance of approximately 230 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: six to fifty feet of distance. Make sure there's a 231 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: rapid test, maybe a PCR test in advance of the 232 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: rapid test, to make sure that you will not around 233 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: someone who is and incubata of a variant by I mean, 234 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: at what point, of course, welcome back to claim bucks 235 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: for everybody? At what point is this just too silly 236 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: for people? At what point I realized, like what, who 237 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: is listening to him? I know there are people that's 238 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: a thing. It's not that, but I want to know 239 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: what do we have to do to get them to 240 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: stop being so worried. If you're so worried that you 241 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: still listen to Fauci, aren't you vaccinated? And if you're 242 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: vaccinated you listen to Faucci. Don't you know that your 243 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: risk of hospitalization and death is very low even if 244 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: you get COVID, So even if you're around somebody with COVID, 245 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: if you're fully vaccinated, you might still get COVID. We 246 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: know that that was a big booboo from Fauci side, 247 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: that was an OPSI moment, But you're still protected against 248 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: hospitalization death at a pretty good level. You can get boostered. 249 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: So why the freak out? What percentage of people do 250 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: you think are freaking out as Christmas gets closer? That 251 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: was my question as I listened to Fauci's absurdities, as 252 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: he worked through all of that irrational nonsense. What percentage 253 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: of people do you think are legitimately checking vaccination status 254 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: for people coming over to their house for Christmas? First 255 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: of all, the best thing about Christmas is kids, right, 256 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: no matter who you are. Young kids Santa Claus, you know, 257 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: under five years old, under ten years old, whatever the 258 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: ages there where they have that magical wake up in 259 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: the morning, run downstairs, face just full of joy. I 260 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: don't care how old you are, and if you think 261 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: there is something better than for Christmas than young kids 262 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: and their excitement and their experience, if you are, I 263 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: can't even imagine if you're a grandparent and you're not 264 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: going to be around your five year old because the 265 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: five year old is not vaccinated. I can't even imagine 266 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: how furious I would be as a parent. Okay, I mean, 267 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: but you don't have kids yet, But you got a nephew. 268 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I would. I it's rare that I would 269 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: get really upset with a grandparent. But if I had 270 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: a grandparent who was saying, hey, we can't be around 271 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: you for Christmas, you're five year olds not vaccinated, that's 272 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: a meant to me, that's a mental illness on the 273 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: part of the grandparent. I just yeah, I mean, because 274 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: I think you've lost your mind. I mean, your parents, 275 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: my parents vaccinated and boosters. You're talking about vaccine and 276 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: booster people. You're gonna have to run down that should 277 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: do it. You're yeah, right, but you're gonna segment out 278 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: one person who's very you know, who's a very limited 279 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: chance of actually spreading. We've actually never gotten very good 280 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: numbers on this. We've always just known children don't seem 281 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: to spread this readily to an adult. Early on, there 282 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: was this concern that all the teachers would be getting 283 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: sick from the kids. That never seemed to pan out. 284 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: That data never came out in a way that suggested 285 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: that was going on in fact children, And if you 286 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: just think it through, it's probably because it's so mild 287 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: for them and they clear it so quickly that they 288 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: have a low viral load. Probably this is a theory, 289 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: all right, not doctor Buck's theory. But I've heard other 290 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: people talk about this too, and even Fauci says it 291 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: doesn't seem you know, he doesn't factory thing. We don't 292 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: know entirely, but maybe a little doesn't seem like they 293 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: actually spread this readily to adults and people are you 294 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: know the thing in my life right now, Clay, is 295 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: people mask up in my elevator so that they can 296 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: go sit in a restaurant with a hundred people around 297 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: them indoors with no masks on. Yeah, I'm looking like, 298 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: what are you doing? You only have to get sick 299 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: once and then you've got COVID, so why are you 300 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: living your life under this absurdity? But they probably think that, 301 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, transgender swimmers don't have an advantage either, So 302 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: this is where we will and Buck. The other angle 303 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: here is and you know, I hope to be there 304 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: one day and be a grandparent, but when you get 305 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: into your seventies, you don't know how many more Christmas 306 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: is you're going to have. 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You're 331 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: listening to Clay Travis send buck Sexton Fund the EIB Network. 332 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 333 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We opened up the 334 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: show talking about a good article, good work being done 335 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: on the pen Pennsylvania You Pen trans Swimmer by Joe Kenzie. 336 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: He is a writer at OutKick, the site that I run. 337 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: If you haven't checked out OutKick dot com and you're 338 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: a sports fan and you think the world has gone insane, 339 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll make it a little bit more sane for 340 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: you there. And Joe does fantastic work. Joe, good job 341 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: on this first story. I know there's a second story 342 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: from an additional Pen Women Swimmer that is going up 343 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. So I want to start with this question, 344 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: how did you come to get in contact with these girls? 345 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: Why did they reach out to you, and why do 346 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: they want their story told throughout kick play. Thanks for 347 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: having me on listen. We've been writing this story about 348 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: the Leah Thomas for about ten to fourteen days now 349 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: and last week. One source was tipped off that we 350 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: had written a story and she was comfortable enough to 351 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 1: to do a phone interview and really share her emotions 352 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: about what is going on with this team. And she 353 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: felt comfortable, you know, with the OutKick that we were 354 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: going to tell her story fairly, and we don't have 355 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: an agenda year. We're just telling the story about what's 356 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: going on. And now we have another another swimmer on 357 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: the pen women's team that is stepped forward and that'll 358 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: be coming soon. Joe, it's buck good to meet you 359 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: and good work on the story. Want to know when 360 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: you're talking to your source here to degree you can 361 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: tell us you know what are they worried or in 362 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: this case, this one woman particularly worried will happen if 363 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: they wouldn't come forward? I mean, usually when athletes are 364 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: upset about something, particularly they think something unfair has happened, 365 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: whether it's reps or anything else, they're pretty vocal about it. Obviously, 366 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: these women on this team who are upset don't want 367 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: to be vocal. What do they think happens if they 368 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: were to speak out with their names attached to it? Well, well, 369 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on buck listen last week the 370 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: first swimmer was she was just concerned about the general 371 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: climate in society where she was going to be attacked 372 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: for having a different opinion, and that has escalated. Last night. 373 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: I was told that we now have a situation where 374 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: the university called a team mandatory team meeting last night 375 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: where the swimmers were strongly advised against speaking to media outlets, 376 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: and they were also told that it is non negotiable 377 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: that Leah Thomas will be swimming for the women's team, 378 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: but we are here to support you however you want 379 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: to come to terms with it, is what the swimmers 380 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: were told. So we have now entered a different phase 381 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: of this where the school is definitely taking a stance. 382 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: They're definitely telling these athletes not to speak out, and 383 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: these two women are being brave in this moment where 384 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: they risked a reprisal from the university. How wild is this? Joe? 385 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: You have covered sports for your I mean as long 386 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: as I can remember, I read you before you came 387 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: over and started working with us at OutKick. Did you 388 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: ever think we'd end up in a space where a 389 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: biological man was competing at an ivy League school, one 390 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: of the elite academic institutions in the country and potentially 391 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: going to set all time women swimming records as a 392 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: man swimming as a woman. I mean, this is it's 393 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: through the looking glass level crazy, isn't it, Clay? When 394 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: I keep putting that towards, you know, the whole records 395 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: thing to these women, they're just blown away. They're they're 396 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: they're like us, they're completely perplexed on what this means 397 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: for the sport other than all the records are going 398 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: to be smashed in the freestyle race. They're looking at 399 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: the Olympics, They're like, what does this mean for the Olympics. 400 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: So you have what's coming in March is these times 401 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: are going to win national titles and as a country, 402 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: as a swimming nation there they haven't even come to 403 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: terms with this because these records are just being smashed 404 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: over the last two weeks, and they tell me, the 405 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: swimmers tell me that these times are going to be 406 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: lowered clay, and it's just absurd to think that they're 407 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: now being strongly advised speaking out against something that is 408 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: going to completely affect them, completely affect the sport. These 409 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: times are going to be lower clay to the point 410 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: of where they may never be broken again unless buy 411 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: another transgender athlete. It's interesting, Joe, it comes across in 412 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: the piece that you wrote for OutKick that the coach 413 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: seems to be on board and actually kind of excited 414 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: about this. Is that where things are? I mean now, 415 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: it's very tough to tell. I would think as an outsider, 416 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: is the coach towing the line because of just the 417 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: politics around this and seeming excited or is the coach 418 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: happy that he I'm assuming it's a he. I don't know. 419 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: The coach may actually now have the national champion swimmer 420 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: on the team, you know what I'm saying, Like, do 421 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: we have some sense from the people have spoken out 422 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: about this as whether the coach is just on board 423 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: for a top to bottom or feels pressure to be 424 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: on board. Well, I think there's two different things going 425 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: on here, Buck. I think that the first source told 426 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: us that the coach just like to win and that 427 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: he's looking at this like this is going to go 428 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: on my record as a win, and that's great for me. 429 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm a coach. The second source said that this has 430 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: now become a situation in her opinion, that the coach 431 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: is just going along with it. So he's not going 432 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: to rock the boat. He's not going to get attacked. 433 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna say, listen, I just have to go along 434 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: with what the university says, and the university says, this 435 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do. I just have to go 436 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: along with it. And so you have a combination of 437 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: things going on here. You have the fear of what 438 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: could happen if you spoke out versus the love it 439 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: when it's on my record, So two different things going on. Joe, 440 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: I want to read this quote because I read it 441 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: to start the show, and I think some people may 442 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: have missed it because they weren't listening. This pen female 443 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: swimmer who spoke to you that's on this team that 444 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: is now being dominated by a biological man, a transgender 445 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: swimmer who swim for the men and now swimming for 446 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: the women women. She said, when I have kids, I 447 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: kind of hope they're all boys, because if I have 448 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: any girls that want to play sports in college, good luck. 449 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: Their opponents are all going to be biological men, saying 450 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: they're women. Right now, we have one, but for what 451 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: if we have but what if we had three on 452 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: the team, There'd be three less girls competing that to 453 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: me is the essence of this. Right. All of these 454 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: women have been getting up bright and early in the morning, 455 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: their parents have been taking them their whole lives for 456 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: them to be able to excel enough for them to 457 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: be able to compete at an ivy league level. And 458 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: then out of nowhere, a man decides to be a 459 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: woman and he crushes all of them, making their work 460 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: and their excellence and their pursuit of championships totally not 461 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: able to be accomplished no matter how hard they work. 462 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: This represents a straight on existential threat to women's sports, 463 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: doesn't it completely clay? And if you listen to the experts, 464 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: the people that have been fighting for Title nine for 465 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: their whole lives, they they know that they have us. 466 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: They have a huge fight on their hands here for 467 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: these women that they had fought four years ago, and 468 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, book we have this other 469 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: threat coming and it's tour. It's from a transgender perspective. 470 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: And uh so these women that are on these teams again, 471 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: no scholarships play, these are just these are just women 472 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: that get up and want to swim for their school, 473 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: and yet they have to deal with this where they're 474 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: just getting crushed in the pool. Uh, I'm being told 475 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: that in Akron there were tears, there were there was 476 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: no cheering for Leah. There was massive cheers for the 477 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: for the woman that finished thirty eight seconds behind in 478 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: the mile. So you know there's there are some serious 479 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: emotions going on here and these women they feel like 480 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: they have nothing, nobody out there to support them. So 481 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: this is this is a fight they're in. Joe second 482 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: story is gonna be up tomorrow. You've got another woman's story. 483 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: It's at OutKick dot com. Appreciate all the work that 484 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: you're doing and keep it up, my man. Thanksay, thanks, 485 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: thanks so much for being with us. That's Joe Kinzie. 486 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: He's Withoutkick. You can check that out at OutKick dot com. 487 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: You can also see it written about at Clay and 488 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: Buck dot com. 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We want to rest 514 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: and prosecute folks, and we are doing them if we 515 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: recognize we have to do more and better. But it's 516 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: not unique to California. You've seen in Chicago, Minnesota. But 517 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: also this is not unique. Property crime has gone up 518 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: in many many states, red states, not just blue states. 519 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: Violent crime and property crime, for examples, high in Texas, 520 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: that is in California. I don't see that on Fox News. 521 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: Oh someone's get a little sore about it. And And I 522 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: think welcome back to clan Buck show. That was slimy 523 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: Gavin News of California there with a nice little maneuver, 524 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: I have to tell you pretty Oh. So now we're 525 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: gonna compare states. We're gonna we're gonna pretend that there 526 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: aren't democrats in control of all the cities where this 527 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: stuff is happening and make it a statewide issue to 528 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: try to say that property crime in Texas is worse. 529 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: The folks that are listening now in Houston and Dallas 530 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: and Austin and you know, you name it right all 531 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: across the state in rural areas at EXAs as well. 532 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna have I named all of our affiliates 533 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: in Texas, Clay, I'll be here for about five minutes. 534 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: But the point is where we're seeing finally Democrats unable 535 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: to run from the reality. I really think the videos 536 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: in particular make it because it's so brazen. Right. It's 537 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: one thing when you see when you see somebody break 538 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night into a store and 539 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: there's kind of a frenzy, they grab a couple of things, 540 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: they run, and you can tell they're really worried about 541 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: getting caught. When people are pulling up in cars and 542 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: it's the middle of the day and it's the fanciest 543 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: shopping district of Chicago, or it's a very well traveled area, 544 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: very well you know, high pedestrian part of California, Los Angeles, 545 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco, wherever, and they're taking armfuls of stuff in 546 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: broad daylight, with security cameras there and everything. You really 547 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: get the sense, Clay, that they're not worried about how 548 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: hard the Democrat prosecutor, the Democrat police chief, and the 549 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: Democrat mayor is going to come down on them. If 550 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: they're caught, and I think that's the part of it 551 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: that has finally seeped in and is causing a problem. 552 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: There's no doubt. Look, and we talked about this yesterday. 553 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: There are twelve cities in America all over the country, 554 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: from Tucson, Arizona, Louisville, Kentucky, Philadelphia, Columbus, Ohio, Austin, Texas, 555 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: Portland that are all setting all time highs this year 556 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: buck for murders. And so this idea that Gavin Newsom 557 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: is like, oh, look at somebody else they have a 558 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: higher crime rate than we do. Here is their crime 559 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 1: right growing as fast? Because I feel like it's not 560 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: only violent crime, it's quality of life crime that many 561 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: of our listeners right now in California are nodding their 562 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: heads about. You got homeless encampments taking over what should 563 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: have been otherwise beautiful places. Venice Beach in the LA Area, 564 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: I am told at least over the last several months, 565 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: is basically a homeless encampment. Now you've got people who 566 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: live in Orange County that they walk outside to go 567 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: down to the ocean and they're homeless people there. Now, 568 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean quality of life factors in in a big way, 569 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: and when you see massive shop lifting shenanigans going on 570 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: with huge groups, it's hard to believe that things are 571 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: going in the right direction. We got a bunch of 572 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: people who want to weigh in, by the way, on 573 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: the phones, Buck, if you want to pop a couple 574 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: of calls up here, Claire in Wilmington, Delaware, Joe Biden's 575 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: I think, sure, Hey, what's up, Claire, I'm lucky us. Yeah. 576 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to make a point about the swimmers. You know, 577 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: there's really a very easy solution to this if it 578 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: weren't an agenda. We have special Olympics, so there's no 579 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: reason there can't be a team. I think it's more 580 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: men that turn into girls than the other way around. 581 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: And let them swim against the room. They can beach transgender, 582 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: and then they're still swimming against men. But I'll tell 583 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: you where I believe the problem starts on this. It's 584 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: in the schools now, and I don't know whose hand 585 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: in this country is pushing this that everyone is terrified 586 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: to acquiesce. I pulled my kids out of public school 587 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen at home school, and I could see 588 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: other nonsense back then starting. But here's the problem. They 589 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: are glorifying this transgender LGBTQ whole agenda, and I think 590 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: you would find most conservatives could care less what you are. However, 591 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: when you push it that they are special and above 592 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: the rest of us, that's the problem. Most kids in school, 593 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: I would say, ninety nine are heterosexual, regular kids. Why 594 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: should they have to be upheopled, have upheovil in the 595 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: school for what bathrooms? This less than one percent wants 596 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: to choose. This is foolish and parents need to take 597 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: back this country. I always taught my kids, you want 598 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: to see how much the people that say they're the 599 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: party of science believe in science, is them? How many 600 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: sexes there are? Well, you know, Claire, thank you so much. 601 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: And I would just say, in response to what Claire's raising, 602 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: would you really get down to here? Is that it 603 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: is the agenda of the left. And so everyone's very 604 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: clear on this is not that there are accommodations made 605 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: for transgender individuals in sports or in any area where 606 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: the sexes are separated. The agenda of the left, just 607 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: to be very clear, is that this is now a woman. 608 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: She is one hundred percent entirely Leah Thomas or Thompson. 609 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: What is their name, Lea whatever? The swimmer, Yes, is 610 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: a woman, not a transgender woman, not a transgender no, no, no, 611 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: a female like any other female. That is the actual 612 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: agenda of the left. And so even to say things 613 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: like Leah cannot get pregnant guys is viewed as sacrilege. Yeah, 614 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: and look, the answer is on some level, unisex competitions 615 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: in sports. That's where this is moving towards. The idea 616 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: of having transgender people compete against other transgender people is 617 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: an interesting idea. I don't know exactly how that would work, 618 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: but it's also messy. Unisex seems to me to be 619 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: the answer. The problem is it destroys women's sports. Women's 620 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: sports effectively do not exist as long as you go 621 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: to unisex. And by the way, we've got another caller 622 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: who was going to raise an issue, but we got 623 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: We're about to go to break here. But Rob and 624 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: Louisville said all the women need to quit the team together. 625 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: The girls were asked about that, and they talk about 626 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: it with Joe Kenzie. They love swimming. They don't want 627 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: to quit doing something they love in protest. They've spent 628 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: their whole swimming competitively since they were what five or 629 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: six years old in some cases, and in very swimming 630 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: you can start very very young. They don't want to 631 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: throw that. And by the way, Clay, they shouldn't have 632 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: to right this. Yes, the other side is where the 633 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 1: madness is coming from, the agenda, the left. That's why 634 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: we shouldn't bend the knee and abandoned conservative sometimes just 635 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: want to take their ball and go home, so to speak, 636 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: and you know, go off the grid and forget all 637 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: about it. Can't see the battlefield to the other side 638 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: without consequences, friends, That's why we're here every day on 639 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: this battlefield. We got more for you coming up, including 640 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: on what happened with that Christmas tree that was burned 641 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: outside of Fox News? What happened to that guy you're 642 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: listening to, Clay Travis, said Buck Sexton fund the EIB 643 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: Network