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Speaker 1: Well, I need a coach to talk to because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of this preseason stuff that interests me, but

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Speaker 1: nothing is everything. Don't overreact, but everything matters a little

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Speaker 1: in evaluation and drafting and game planning. Eric Mangini, Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports is joining us now live. So like yesterday there

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Speaker 1: was a report that the Dolphins had perhaps the most

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Speaker 1: players were saying they don't even practice like us. This

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Speaker 1: is for a culture that has been diplomatically a little

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Speaker 1: loose since Mike McDaniel got there. What do I make

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Speaker 1: of a story like that? Is it something? What do

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Speaker 1: you make of Miami an organization that's had some accountabilities

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Speaker 1: like that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm the head coach of the Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: That's the last thing I want people saying about my practices,

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Speaker 4: and especially in a situation where they've been accused of

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Speaker 3: And what do we know about Detroit.

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Speaker 4: We know Detroit it's tough, we know they're physical, we

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Speaker 4: the head coach. And now that group goes down to

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Speaker 4: Miami me and it's called the most lopsided practice in history,

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Speaker 4: and the players are talking about how different their practices are.

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Speaker 4: If you're the owner of the Dolphins, you're going, is

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Speaker 4: this really? Is this really what I want my organization

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Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel if that's if that's what's coming out of there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, by the way owners watch and listen

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Speaker 1: They absolutely listen. I also think anytime there's a report

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Speaker 1: always bad news, right, Like he would have been better

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Speaker 1: off with a report being Miami is physical and out

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Speaker 1: That would be better for Mike McDaniel. It'd be against type.

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Speaker 4: It would be absolutely better for Mike McDaniel because as

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Speaker 4: an owner, now your friends at the country club or

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Speaker 4: wherever are gonna be saying, Okay, you're letting this happen.

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Speaker 4: This is this is Ultimately it's a reflection on him

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Speaker 4: and Steve Ross's an incredibly successful businessman and he's I

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Speaker 4: don't think anybody's ever gonna choose him of being soft.

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Speaker 4: So I'm sure he doesn't want his team to be

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Speaker 1: So Jackson Dart had forty one college starts with Lane

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Speaker 1: But there's a bigger thing than that. One thing we

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Speaker 1: has not galvanized teammates. That's just that's not an opinion,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh wherever. That's not been his strength. So Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 4: And at practice he's he's extremely competitive as well, and

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Speaker 4: I've made it out to a couple of Giants practices

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Speaker 4: And look, Russell hasn't had the best post Seattle trajectory,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll be able to hold the

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Speaker 1: So you coached in very loud media cities New York

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Speaker 1: Now Ben Johnson said he got seventy snaps at practice,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't count in the record, I'm not gonna play

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Speaker 1: But it was I did think for a young quarterback

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Speaker 4: So not only does it build Caleb's confidence, it builds

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Speaker 3: This is going in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: There's no soft openings like you have with a restaurant

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Speaker 4: don't think that's the worst idea in the world. You

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Speaker 3: To me, that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: He's still moving.

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Speaker 1: So you were part of the Patriots dynasty. And even

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Speaker 1: I think they got to five AFC championships. They were

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Speaker 3: It's gotten a lot harder.

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Speaker 4: You've got you've got three great coaches in that division.

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Speaker 4: Now that you're gonna have to compete against you know,

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Speaker 1: Finally, you when you were a coach in the Browns,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you heard sports radio at least once. It's

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Speaker 1: And now Shador plays Friday and he plays well, and

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Speaker 1: you live in Cleveland, So what do you make I'm

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Speaker 1: No, I think it's all worked out for the Browns

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Speaker 2: But first Jmack with a news. This is the Herdline News.

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Speaker 7: All right, Colin, I know you're very excited about the

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Speaker 8: I don't know if I can answer that question, but

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Speaker 2: Very interesting. I like that.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm right

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Speaker 7: I like that. It's like I'm living living I'm not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 7: Dylan Gabriel, we're taking horses.

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Speaker 6: I think you have Shedor and I have Dylan.

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Speaker 2: It's something.

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Speaker 7: Next up, Colin, Let's go to Kyler Murray and Arizona.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm bullish on them after last week. Remember

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Speaker 1: You're very pro Arizona, which is interesting because you've never

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And what's interesting is Arizona has played like the

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Speaker 1: I think they're I think their personnel is much better

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Speaker 7: Let me, it's funny. Kyler one number one overall. You

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Speaker 1: I think Kyler throws a better deep ball as a

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Speaker 6: Oh, this is fun all right. Final story, Colin, I

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Speaker 2: We got some.

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Speaker 7: Polisic was talking to Tyler Adams on some sort of

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Speaker 7: That's how big of a player Pulisic is and how

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Speaker 7: And I'm this is a little puzzling to me that

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Speaker 1: Like Tyler is saying Christian's so good that he doesn't

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Speaker 2: Of anybody exactly.

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Speaker 6: I would I think you're probably right.

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Speaker 1: But foot on ball, he's the most skilled player we've

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Speaker 6: But you know, yes, I think you're right.

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Speaker 7: Not great World Cup. By the way, where's the calendar?

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Speaker 7: We're like ten months out? Oh yeah, I'm fired up,

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Speaker 2: No, I can't wait for it. Jmack with the news. Well,

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Speaker 1: Lie Well, last last Thursday it was NFC playoff teams

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Speaker 1: seven AFC playoff teams. I cannot wait tomorrow's headlines.

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Speaker 2: Today next be sure to catch live editions of The

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Speaker 1: All right, no time to waste. Last week it was

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Speaker 1: the predictions for the NFC. J Mack was very bullish

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Speaker 1: on the San Francisco forty nine Ers, Kyle Shanahan and

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Speaker 1: let's start with the number seven seed in the AFC.

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Speaker 7: All right, well, well could have come right out of

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Speaker 6: The headline for the seventh seed will be.

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Speaker 7: Cohen Spiracy theory defensive star, also secret offensive asset. Yes,

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Speaker 7: They were really bad last year. Remember the GM, the coach,

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Speaker 7: d in one off season.

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Speaker 6: Let's go offense.

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Speaker 7: So they get Travis Hunter, who's gonna play a lot

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Speaker 7: of offense in some defense, Brian Thomas the rookie receiver.

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Speaker 7: Last year it was excellent. And let's remember Trevor Lawrence

445
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Speaker 7: did not play the full season last year. He was

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Speaker 7: banged up. Colin, how about this sat last year in

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Speaker 7: one score games Jacksonville three and ten, three and ten.

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Speaker 6: You know, that's gonna turn around.

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Speaker 7: They had close losses to the likes of Philly, the

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Speaker 7: some playoff teams, and I just I wonder if there's

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Speaker 7: a world where can that three and ten become I

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Speaker 7: don't know, seven and five in one score games.

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Speaker 6: And then you've got.

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Speaker 7: Jacksonville in a weak division with a awesome offense. Remember

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Speaker 7: they got three new offensive linemen in the offseason. Cohen

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Speaker 7: kind of fixed Baker Mayfield. And I know a lot

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Speaker 7: of people think Trevor Lawrence is a bust. Is there

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Speaker 7: a world colin where Cohen goes in fixes Lawrence? Travis

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Speaker 7: Hunter is a hit. The offense is a top seven

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Speaker 7: unit in the league. They got Etna good running back

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Speaker 7: Diame Brown, they got from Washington.

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Speaker 6: He's a great number three. Not a lot of people

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Speaker 6: outside of DC know him.

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Speaker 7: I think they're gonna sneak in the playoffs as a seed.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, I like it.

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Speaker 2: I got him in sixth seed AFC.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I had this team winning the division, but like you,

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Speaker 7: due to a major injury, I have kind of backpedaled

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Speaker 7: a little bit. The sixth seed in the AFC, the

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Speaker 7: headline will be herb your enthusiasm justin delivers binge worthy season. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the Chargers. I did think the

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Speaker 7: Slater injury. You can't just lose a centerpiece to your team,

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Speaker 7: not just offensive line, not just offense, your team like

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Speaker 7: Slater and not expect to pull back.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 7: Joe Olt should slide over, but he hasn't done a

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Speaker 7: lot of left tackle, the big guy from Notre Dame

478
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Speaker 7: who had a really solid rookie season, but that now

479
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Speaker 7: shakes up the right side. Let's see what's going on

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Speaker 7: with Makai Beckton, who they added. Obviously, the wide receiver

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Speaker 7: unit has upgraded significantly around Lad McConkey. I like Jim

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Speaker 7: Harball a lot. And I know people want to say, Jay,

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Speaker 7: what about the Chiefs. Come on, Chiefs, you got to

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Speaker 7: get in. This is a Chargers team. Nobody's played the

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Speaker 7: Chiefs tougher than the Chargers basically in the division the

486
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Speaker 7: last few years. I think Harbaugh does it again. Chargers

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Speaker 7: get in as a six seed.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today we move up the latter number five

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Speaker 1: seed in the AFC.

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Speaker 7: This team missed it last year, but it was no

491
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Speaker 7: fault of their offense, which was a machine. The defense,

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Speaker 7: the headline for the fifth seed and the AFC.

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Speaker 6: Will be Chitty Chitty bang bang. Burrow invents new.

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Speaker 7: Way to get to the playoffs. I have the Bengals

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Speaker 7: getting back there.

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Speaker 6: Colin. It was a disastrous season from Cincinnati.

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Speaker 7: I'm reading reports about the percentage of backup quarterbacks they

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Speaker 7: faced last.

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Speaker 6: Year with the highest in the league.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you're facing like dtr twice, Okay, Andy Dalton

501
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Speaker 7: and the defense still could not stop them.

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Speaker 6: That's troubling.

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Speaker 7: Also troubling, they didn't really improve the secondary or the

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Speaker 7: defense materially, so I have concerns. I just think this offense,

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Speaker 7: which if you track last season, Colin, their offense awesome.

506
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Speaker 7: Joe Burrow could have won the MVP. They were in

507
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Speaker 7: every game and then the defense lets them down in

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Speaker 7: the final two minutes giving up a late touchdown. Or

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Speaker 7: this is a team in the playoffs, remember that get

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Speaker 7: that lost to the I mean you could pick out

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Speaker 7: any loss, but the Ravens went particularly was brutal. I

512
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Speaker 7: just see this Bengals team as a playoff squad in

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Speaker 7: the AFC.

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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow gets it done.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, Speed her up.

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Speaker 2: J mckwor at four all.

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Speaker 6: Right here we go, no doubt about it. The headline

518
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Speaker 6: will be Division winner.

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Speaker 7: Cambell back Ward carries Titans over Humps. Yes, I've got

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Speaker 7: Tennessee in the playoff now column.

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Speaker 6: That's Tennessee and Jacksonville. That means no Houston.

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Speaker 7: I like cam Ward a lot. I like the leadership.

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Speaker 7: This is a team that there's just a lot to

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Speaker 7: love right now about the Tennessee Titans Offensively, defense, We'll

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Speaker 7: see there's some questions about the wide receiver room. But

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Speaker 7: I'm a believer cam Ward can have a Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 7: type rookie season. Give me the Titans winning the division tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Headlines today. The number three seed in.

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Speaker 7: The AFC, this one seems like a layup, right. I mean,

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Speaker 7: AFC West has been dominated by a certain team. The

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Speaker 7: run has ended. The headline for the number three seed

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Speaker 7: in the AFC will be that's a serious but Doonka

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Speaker 7: bronc Denver kicks Casey to the rear, bo Nix your guy,

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Speaker 7: and Sean Payton Colin. I have them as the three

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Speaker 7: seed in the AFC. Again, this is the best defense

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Speaker 7: in the league.

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Speaker 6: We could just call it.

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Speaker 7: Now, and I do believe even though Nick doesn't have

539
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Speaker 7: the highest ceiling. His floor is excellent. Sean Payton one

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Speaker 7: of the mastermind offensive guys in the league.

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Speaker 6: Give me the Broncos as the three seed in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, let's move up to the final two spaces.

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Speaker 2: Here's number two with j Mack.

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Speaker 7: This offense was incredible last year. Somehow they melted down

545
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Speaker 7: in the playoffs once again. The headline for the two

546
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Speaker 7: seed will be Harbaugh and order trophy exhibit admitted into evidence. Yes,

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Speaker 7: Baltimore wins the division once again. Cincinnati will be close,

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Speaker 7: but Baltimore colin the numbers they put up last year

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Speaker 7: with them with the defense that kind of gave up

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Speaker 7: a lot of big plays. I think they led the

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Speaker 7: league in defensive penalties. They must be better if they

552
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Speaker 7: want to get to the super Bowl. But Lamar and

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Speaker 7: Derrick Henry for sure, despite a wide receiver room that's shaky.

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Speaker 7: I like the Ravens eleven or twelve wins in the

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Speaker 7: playoffs once again, I know.

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Speaker 2: What's coming next.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, the number one seed from a chilly

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Speaker 1: northern city.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's not the Chiefs, it's not the Texans. The

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Speaker 7: headline for the number one seed in the AFC will

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Speaker 7: be buffaloaded for bear locked, cocked and safeties look looked

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Speaker 7: off college. Josh Allen best player in the league. I

563
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Speaker 7: don't really think you could argue at this point. Lamar's excellent,

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Speaker 7: Burrow's excellent. It's got to be Josh Allen. Remember their

565
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Speaker 7: win total they eclipped it by three games last year.

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Speaker 6: That's how good this team was.

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Speaker 7: I mean, there's not a lot to hate about Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: They upgrade the defense. I think the Bills are going

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Speaker 6: to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Well that leaves conspicuous at since Kansas City is nowhere

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Speaker 1: to be seen. Now I have the Chiefs as a

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Speaker 1: wild card team. So I received a final entry this

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Speaker 1: week tomorrow's headlines today, What would the headline be for

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Speaker 1: those losers in Kansas City?

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Speaker 7: Boy, we had to do one for the KSE audience.

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Speaker 7: The headline for the Kansas City changed this season will

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Speaker 7: be t Swift drops new album as t Kelsey dropped out.

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Speaker 6: Look at that.

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Speaker 7: Travis Kelcey on stage with Taylor Swift. I'm sorry, I

580
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Speaker 7: gotta stick to it, guys. I've been on this boat

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Speaker 7: for months.

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Speaker 6: I get it. The wide receiver room should be upgraded.

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Speaker 7: By the way the Rashi Rice news today, He's gonna

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Speaker 7: play the first few games, but we'll see due to

585
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Speaker 7: a September thirtieth hearing. I just I gotta see it.

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Speaker 7: I don't see it from Kelsey. I didn't see it

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Speaker 7: in the playoffs. Obviously, we're Taylor Swift fans here on

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Speaker 7: the show. I'm sorry. I see some drop offs for

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Speaker 7: the Chiefs. It's tough to stay on top forever without

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Speaker 7: reinventing yourself. I didn't see the reinvention this offseason, Colin.

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Speaker 7: I know it's it's crazy, and I'm sure Nick is

592
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Speaker 7: very upset watching this, but I don't have the Chiefs

593
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Speaker 7: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: I'm sticking with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they have.

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Speaker 1: They're crossing their fingers at left tackle with Josh Simmons.

597
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Speaker 1: They lost Joe Tooney, so the interior o line has

598
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Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey, but probably not quite as strong. The run

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Speaker 1: game has been a little disappointing, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Chris Jones is still in the biggest games

601
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Speaker 1: a monster. Travis Kelcey sorts of sort of disappears. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: they're they're going to be in close games. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they have the offensive firepower. They're just too inconsistent

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Speaker 1: wide receiver.

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Speaker 6: Eleven or zero in one score games.

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Speaker 2: Lees, that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Even if they went eight and three or seven and four,

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Speaker 1: that's a great one score record. So I think I

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Speaker 1: think both of us agree. Denver's O line coach, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks still inexpensive, pass rush, best corner in football, I mean, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think gets a reach to say Denver's got

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Speaker 1: the best roster in the division. I think PFF may disagree.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, if Rashi Rice becomes a number one,

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Speaker 1: then maybe I'm wrong here because I just worthy to

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Speaker 1: me as a gadget player, Rice, I don't trust, though

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Speaker 1: I think he's really good. I think Denver's got the

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Speaker 1: best roster.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to ask, you'd like to say, sometimes, well,

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Speaker 7: if Ceedee Lamb goes down, the Cowboys are cooked? Is

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Speaker 7: there a single point of failure with the Chiefs defense?

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Speaker 7: If something happens to Christians?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're still good though they've got but.

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Speaker 6: They're not at the superstar top five. I mean, spats

625
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Speaker 6: can only do so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're pretty good. I think they've drafted

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Speaker 1: the defensive side. I could argue better than the offensive side.

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Speaker 1: They've had some misses at wide receiver. All right, we're

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Speaker 1: done today. J. Mack takes over the controls tomorrow. First

630
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Speaker 1: things first is right around the corner. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go golf for a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Why not,