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Speaker 4: You're listening just to Godsend Company. Today is a great day.

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Speaker 4: You want to know why, Mikeya. It's a great day

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Speaker 4: because we get to speak to Tim Kirschin. What a

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Speaker 4: great day baseball is right around the corner.

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Speaker 2: That is fantastic. Is this a great game or what?

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Speaker 4: That's the podcast he does with his son Tim right

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Speaker 2: I don't want you to do that.

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Speaker 4: But Mikeya was telling me his top three day definitive,

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Speaker 4: top three defensive pitchers. Strange place to start here, Timmy,

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Speaker 4: but his top three defensive pitchers definitive, he said, are

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Speaker 4: Jim Cott, Greg Maddox, and Mike Musina.

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Speaker 2: Is he right or is he wrong?

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good list.

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Speaker 5: I would first off, Greg Maddox is first, Okay, Jim

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Speaker 5: So I would have Maddox. I mean, I would have

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Speaker 5: I've seen, but Maddox is first. And just quickly on

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Speaker 5: this fellas. As you know, he never threw a pitch

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Speaker 5: how Great Greg maddox was where he would just change

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Speaker 5: of years ago Confirmed Jim cott is such a great.

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Speaker 4: All who was tim of all the pictures In Major

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Speaker 4: Now you better be're telling you right, now be CAMPL

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Speaker 2: KIRCHIN i don't care what the fucking argument. IS i

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Speaker 6: Kirchin they were ranking the best pitches in, baseball and

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Speaker 6: ahead Of Mariano rivera's, cutter you had you baldo Him

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Speaker 5: it's really the only pitch he. Threw he's the greatest

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Speaker 5: i will tell, you, though That Paul richards the one

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Speaker 5: with The rangers as the assistant general. Manager he told

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Speaker 5: MARIANO'S i will Say mariano's cutter is the best pitch

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Speaker 5: in the history of. BASEBALL i stand. CORRECTED i don't

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Speaker 5: RIGHT i don't think we're gonna have a salary cap anytime.

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Speaker 5: Soon if you can prove to me that a salary

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Speaker 1: Board But i'm not.

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Speaker 5: we will definitely have a work stoppage in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: We have to get.

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Speaker 5: To SO i was very discouraged to hear THAT i

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Speaker 3: Good Tim nobody would ARGUE i don't think that The

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Speaker 5: Question, YES i think The phillies have a chance to

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Speaker 5: Ask i'm not sure there is a great team in

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Speaker 5: The American. League BUT i just Saw seattle and The

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Speaker 5: By Trek scooble and now From. Orvaldez SO i would,

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Speaker 5: One i'll Say seattle is the second best team in

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Speaker 4: Now, tim how do you feel about what The mets

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Speaker 5: Be they'll be a lot better than last year when

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Speaker 5: they were obviously a. Disappointment it does worry me a

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Speaker 1: People to the. Team it's going to take a little

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Speaker 5: Out if you, Know polanco can play first base And

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Speaker 1: Base you, know do you cover the.

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Speaker 3: Number, tim what would be your mount rushmore of double

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Speaker 1: History, oh he's got.

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Speaker 5: Five But Bobby wine with The phillies played With Cookie

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Speaker 5: World not as funny as When George orda played second

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Speaker 1: I'm all in for the fun names in the.

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Speaker 5: Most of them, do because nothing else crosses my mind

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Speaker 5: on a daily. Basis so it's always baseball stuff BECAUSE

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Speaker 5: i don't know anything.

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Speaker 2: Else is this a great? Game or what is his

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Speaker 2: podcast with his? Son it's.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic check it out wherever you get your. Podcast taylor

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Speaker 4: was so impressed when you SAID Cc. Sabbathia what'd you?

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Speaker 4: Say the greatest number fifty three of all?

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Speaker 2: Time fifty? Two i'm. Sorry So taylor was so. Impressed

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Speaker 2: he does.

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Speaker 4: This he wrote an Article tim the greatest number fifty

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Speaker 4: to ever play baseball was?

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Speaker 1: Who, well that's a good. QUESTION i think it Is Mookie.

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Speaker 5: Betts you, know we had we Had Sid, fernandez we

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Speaker 5: Had Tom, hanke we Had Adam.

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Speaker 1: Wainwright we've had some pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Fifties BUT i Think Mookie, betts with a couple of

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Speaker 5: MVPs And World series rings and maybe the best defensive

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Speaker 5: right fielder in the game a couple of years, ago

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Speaker 5: and then he just turns and becomes a, SHORTSTOP i

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Speaker 5: THINK Mooki betts is the greatest number fifty of all.

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Speaker 2: Time go, Ahead.

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Speaker 4: Taylor you can ask him any, Number, Taylor i'll have

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Speaker 4: it for, you fifty.

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Speaker 3: One there seems to be some Debate Randy, Johnson Trevor,

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Speaker 3: hoffman Each, Heiro who are you going?

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Speaker 6: There?

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Speaker 5: Sorry, Yeah Randy johnson is the greatest number fifty one

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Speaker 5: of all. Time Each row was, amazing But Randy johnson

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Speaker 5: is a top ten pitcher. Ever you could make a

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Speaker 5: case That Randy johnson is the greatest left handed pitcher

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Speaker 5: of all.

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Speaker 1: TIME i probably wouldn't say. THAT i go way back

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Speaker 1: To Lefty.

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Speaker 5: Grove but he's also the most terrifying PITCHER i believe

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Speaker 5: in the history of. BASEBALL i Remember Jeff, heuston former

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Speaker 5: middle infielder for The, rangers And. Orioles we were talking

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Speaker 5: About Michael. Jordan this is like twenty five years ago or.

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Speaker 5: So so he, says what's the worst thing That Michael

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Speaker 5: jordan can do to? You he can dunk on you

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Speaker 5: and embarrass. You what is the worst thing That Randy

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Speaker 5: johnson could do to? You he, said he could kill.

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Speaker 5: You that's how. Hard Randy johnson threw six' ten slinging

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Speaker 5: it from, the side one of the great sliders in

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Speaker 5: the history, of baseball and my Friend, rich donley former

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Speaker 5: coach With, the marlins and a bunch of others told

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Speaker 5: Me Once randy johnson was so tall he didn't even

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Speaker 5: need a pickoff move to. Second base he just reached

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Speaker 5: out and tag. The guy that's How Tall randy. Johnson Was,

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Speaker 5: so yeah it's a debate at, fifty one but really not.

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Speaker 1: For Me randy johnson's the. Best number.

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Speaker 4: Fifty one we'll get you out of here in just.

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Speaker 4: A second do you Love The World? Baseball classic it's

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Speaker 4: somewhat it feels so much different than the.

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Speaker 2: Regular, Season, OBVIOUSLY yeah i.

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Speaker 1: Love It.

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Speaker 5: Stu gotts it has grown. On me at, THE beginning

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Speaker 5: i wasn't sure. About it, you know how is this

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Speaker 5: going to work in? Spring training we're stealing guys. From

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Speaker 5: teams are they going to play? Their best are they

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Speaker 5: going to play? Their hardest but it has won me

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Speaker 5: over the.

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Speaker 6: Last.

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Speaker 5: ONE did i covered a bunch of Games At chase Field,

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Speaker 5: in arizona and it WAS like i would go outside

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00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 5: after the game and it was like there was a

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Speaker 5: party taking place on the Streets of phoenix after that because,

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Speaker 5: the people even with teams that weren't winning, this thing

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Speaker 5: we're just so excited to be there and support. Their

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Speaker 5: country and NOW that i Believe the americans are now

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Speaker 5: in with both feet trying to win, this thing and

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Speaker 5: With the dominicans and With, The japanese oh, my god

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Speaker 5: what a great thing this. Will be, SO yes i LOVE.

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Speaker 5: The wbc it has grown. On me it's a. GREAT

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Speaker 5: idea i just hope nobody gets it's hurt and affects

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Speaker 5: The regular major.

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Speaker 2: League season FINAL question i get.

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Speaker 4: Gat here taylor sent me a Video before otani had

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Speaker 4: five RBIs and was a triple shy of the cycle

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Speaker 4: in the. Second inning Is show otani the greatest baseball

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Speaker 4: player you've?

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Speaker 2: Ever?

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Speaker 4: SEEN tim i hear a lot of people, Saying. It

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Speaker 4: timmy That's why i'm.

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Speaker 2: ASKING you i.

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00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 5: NEVER did I Saw, willie Mays And willie mays did

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Speaker 5: it for, twenty Years so i'm still gonna Go With.

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Speaker 5: Willie mays but there's never been anybody Like. Show A

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Speaker 5: and i Always Say babe ruth is the greatest player of.

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Speaker 5: ALL time i still believe that based on his dominance

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Speaker 5: pitching and hitting when. He played but there's never been

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Speaker 5: anybody Like. Show A someday i believe he will be

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Speaker 5: the greatest player of, all time and that day is.

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Speaker 5: COMING soon, I Mean babe ruth. WAS great i really

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Speaker 5: believe in, nineteen twenty if there WAS a dh In The,

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Speaker 5: American League babe ruth would have hit fifty homers in one.

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Speaker 5: Twenty games but he didn't throw one hundred miles. An

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Speaker 5: hour he didn't hit pitches routinely thrown at one hundred miles.

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Speaker 1: An HOUR and i hate eggs.

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Speaker 5: And velocity but he didn't hit the ball off the

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Speaker 5: bat quite as hard As show. Ay did so that's

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Speaker 5: why there's never been anyone, like HIM and i don't

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Speaker 5: think there will ever be anybody like.

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Speaker 1: Him again.

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Speaker 5: It's remarkable every SINGLE day i watch, him play it.

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Speaker 4: Is, Breathtaking yep well there's nobody. Like you is this

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Speaker 4: a great game? Or what that's?

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Speaker 2: The podcast check it out wherever you get. Your podcast

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Speaker 2: he does it with. His son.

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Speaker 4: It's fantastic they, talk baseball, they talk, you know about,

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00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: their relationship and they talk about some fun stuff.

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Speaker 2: On there it's a very. Good listen timmy love you

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Speaker 2: miss you appreciate.

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00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: The, time no you got, A Run but i'm excited

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Speaker 4: because baseball's around the corner and that.

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Speaker 2: Means More tim kirshin on.

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Speaker 5: My, television okay thanks for, having, me fellows see, you soon,

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Speaker 5: all right, Thank, you timmy