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Speaker 1: Making Conversations. Here we come. Welcome to money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, Rashan McDonald. I say this statement

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Speaker 1: every week. Stop reading other people's success stories and start

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Speaker 1: next guest is CC whinning C. C whinning C. She

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Speaker 1: Last year in music, there's no stop in C. C.

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Speaker 1: Whinings at twelve times Grammy Award winner, twenty three times

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Speaker 1: Children Took Us a current album, but for it. The

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Speaker 1: Uh Dale. He handled my my creative and I walked in.

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Speaker 1: But you know me, Stecy, I always like to just

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Speaker 1: making conversations. Minute of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. I sat

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Speaker 1: Here's what Todd Delaney had to say the crazy thing

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Speaker 1: But for me, impact, impact was the was the greatest thing.

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Speaker 1: money Making Conversation dot com. Now, let's return to Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation with Rashan McDonald. My next kist is Patricia

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Speaker 1: Williams a k Miss Pat. She's a comedian, author, podcaster,

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Speaker 1: and actress who brings a raw in your face and

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Speaker 1: Larry's perspective to a comedy stand up. Her new multi

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Speaker 1: produced by Oscar winner Lee Daniels, which premier the b

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Speaker 1: E T Plus August twelve fantastic show. I've seen four episodes.

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Speaker 1: It's based on her life. It tells the stories that

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Speaker 1: former convicted fell in turned up in terms of Bourbon Mab,

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Speaker 1: of Atlanta to get us. Sitcom is at BT plus,

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Speaker 1: A series is initially set up at Fox. It's a

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Speaker 1: On this show. She got some funny people. It's a

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Speaker 1: about that, We're gonna talk about code, will talk about

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Speaker 1: Somebody that came into my life via a newspaper article

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Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, Patricia Williams a k mis pad How

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Speaker 1: you doing, How are you doing? Thank you for having me? Well?

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Speaker 1: First of all, did I said enough about you? Or

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Speaker 1: or do it? Couldn't I say? Some moments back on that,

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Speaker 1: I think you said enough about Well. First of all,

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Speaker 1: let's get started about why stand up? Why are your

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Speaker 1: stand up comedian? Um? I know I thought I was funny.

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Speaker 1: I never wanted to be a stand up comedian. Uh,

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Speaker 1: people just in my neighborhood and then my life was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you really should push you should really think

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Speaker 1: about a comedian. A trip for the welfare owners and

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Speaker 1: it was like you, you know, we had to pick career.

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Speaker 1: I never forget Bill Clinton was a president and that

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Speaker 1: We'll make a long story show. A case work was like,

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Speaker 1: so funny, and I'm like, I know I want to

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Speaker 1: be a nurse. He's like, no, you should be. You

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Speaker 1: should looking to stand up and then I realized I'm

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Speaker 1: convicted felon and nobody was gonna ever give me a

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Speaker 1: job as a nurse. I just decided it just started.

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Speaker 1: I went to an open mic. Uh huh, Well, you

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Speaker 1: know I'm being a former comedian. I guess I can

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Speaker 1: always say I'm a comedian. Okay, I've done enough in

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Speaker 1: my life, from STEPH Comedy Jam to BT Comic view

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Speaker 1: that open mic, just walking on that stage the very

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Speaker 1: I was funny. And then I had to be convinced

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Speaker 1: their living room, and they said, that's funny, that's funny.

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Speaker 1: You should do that. You do that. How did you

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Speaker 1: put together your first five minutes to go on stage? Ms? Pat?

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Speaker 1: I went to this place that was near my house

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Speaker 1: supposed to put together anything. My literally, my first joke

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Speaker 1: was about my brother being a fat cat burgler. So

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Speaker 1: story that I was familiar with, and I went there

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Speaker 1: and they laughed, and I was like, I went home

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Speaker 1: and I told my was a a gonna say, guess I'm

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Speaker 1: a comedian. He's gonna work tomorrow. Now. When when when

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Speaker 1: year was that? When we year were there when you

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Speaker 1: walked on stage. I think it was early two thousand,

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Speaker 1: two thousand one, something like that. Well, we know, we

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Speaker 1: all have dreams. I know when I started doing stand up,

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Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy was the talk of the land. Richard Pryor

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Speaker 1: was the king of comedy. And then as you see

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Speaker 1: the evolved. You know when I managed Steve Harvey and

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Speaker 1: two thousand the original kings of comedy came out and

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Speaker 1: street said came became a super Bowl commercial star, and

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Speaker 1: Steve Harvey became a radio star, and it was a

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Speaker 1: did you have this pat the story, Like you said,

641
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: you know you still a naturally talent person. Did anybody

642
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: influence you as a comedian or an actress or a singer. No,

643
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about coming honestly, Um, I thought

644
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Richard Pryor was just you know, actor, so I didn't.

645
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: I didn't really into a comedy. And when I started

646
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: to open mic, and people will say, you got these

647
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: crazy stories, and you you remind me of Richard Pryor.

648
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: You don't like he's an actor, and he's like he

649
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: was a comedient. So I just started to do my

650
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: research and I was like, I am a storyteller. So

651
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: I got heavily into watching Bill Cosb because he's a

652
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: great season's great storyteller. And I got into Richard Pryor,

653
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: and I realized that my stories were more like rich Richard,

654
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, in your face, honestly, honest, and I like

655
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: to put them together the way Bill Cosby because they

656
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: were so great at storyteller. So those two is kind

657
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: of my biggest influence, you know, when I really dug

658
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: into I wanted to be a comedian. Well, it's interesting

659
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: you say that, because, uh, you know, when I see

660
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: your stand up, it just it is the storytelling, but

661
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: it's the rawness of red Fox. Did I see and

662
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: in you? And I see it because of the fact

663
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: and you're just talking, you know what I'm saying, and

664
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: and I think that you know, he didn't hear me

665
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: out on this because it's a compliment about you and

666
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: your talents, and it's that there's a filter and I

667
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: don't think you have with Okay, you don't have it.

668
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: You know, she don't have a filter, this woman. I'm

669
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: talking to you right here. If it's if it's, if

670
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: it's in front of her head, it's gonna come out

671
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: of her mouth. Okay. And that's a beauty because that's

672
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: why she's on this show. That's why she's a show

673
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: and BT, that's why she's a successful stand up comedian.

674
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: That's why she goes on her name appears on the

675
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: Billboard and add her shows sell out. That's gonna be

676
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: honest about that. So now Red Fox, which was my

677
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: era growing up because he was an influence, but he

678
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: wasn't you know what. Like I said, I was influenced

679
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: by you know, I knew about Bill Cobby. I was

680
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: like over just in awe of Richard Pryor. But you

681
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: when I see Red Fox, I see this uncanny ability

682
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: to stay treat and then but relatable because it's about

683
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: your personal life. Am I am? I hitting it right

684
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: for you, miss pat because you didn't mention Red Fox.

685
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: Uh No, I think I didn't mention Red Fox because

686
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: I didn't fall a lot of this comedy. You know,

687
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: I just know Red Fox really from San Francis Son,

688
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: but I know how funny he was. But I was

689
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: able to find a lot more Richard prior material when

690
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: I first started, and that was made me. I really

691
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: wanted to tell stories Richard. I've heard, I've heard Richard,

692
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: I've heard Red Fox before. I mean, it's either either

693
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: I get Richard, Burning Matt or Red Fox. That's who

694
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: people come up and tell me. Well, I'm telling all

695
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: that's complimentary, Okay, when you talk about what you're trying

696
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: to do, because you know, like you said, you didn't

697
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: really have any history or anyone want to be a

698
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: stand up comedian on actress for that matter. You know,

699
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: you're just a person who unfortunately was a fella has

700
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: spent You had had jail time, like no offerm than

701
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: comedian Tim Allen who hosted Home Improvement. He had jailed.

702
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: He spent significant jail time, and it also came over

703
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: and became a hit sitcom star. And the fact that

704
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: you say Sanford in sign I was telling to my

705
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: staff today when I came into myself. So I saw

706
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: four episodes of this show, and I said, it's very

707
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: groundbreaking to me. I said, I haven't seen a show,

708
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: especially a black show. There was this authentic sense Sanford

709
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: in sign and Sanford the sign. Reason I said, that's

710
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: after the Sun at the time would actually say the

711
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: N word on network television, and and and and because

712
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: that was that was rare. We're gonna keep it real

713
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: if you if you use it in the camera, you're

714
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: gonna use a camera. And who asked you why? Now?

715
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: Will be t plus so you know there's some cousin

716
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: going on. Y'all y'all get y'all get as they said,

717
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: y'all get wild, y'all get wild out. Plus y'all talking,

718
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: y'all talk and walk it. And that Tammy Roman. I'm

719
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. That girl right there, you got

720
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: a co star co stars right there, that young ladies,

721
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: funny child. I did not know that Tammy Roman. I

722
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: want to know how y'all cast Tammy Roman, because Tammy

723
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: Roman is gonna be your stock. This young lady right now.

724
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: I've seen four episodes, so don't tim. I just saw

725
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: the pilot. She's just funny. The pilot. I saw the

726
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: episode two. I saw episode three. I saw episode four.

727
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: Your but it's funny, Your husband but it's funny, a

728
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: little bit of boy's funny. And your daughter who thinks

729
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: she knows everything funny, Your lazy, your son, your daughter

730
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: who comes in later because she because you just kind

731
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: of like this enfranchise to that whole episode is very

732
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: groundbreaking as far as the language from a gay community standpoint,

733
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: coming out of your mouth. Being able to say that

734
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: and get away with it and then have morality tied

735
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: to it. And I'm just being me wants the problem

736
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: and I walked through, I said, did she say that?

737
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying all these things to everybody who's

738
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: watching and listen to this interview. We're talking to the

739
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: next next. The reason I say that, I can't say

740
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: who she is, but I just know right now I'm

741
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: talking to a young lady right now and I'm inter

742
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: you on money making. Conversation is not only brilliant, but

743
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: she's career defineding in her path and she's authentic and

744
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: she's original. That's who you are, Missy. I'm not closing out.

745
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: This interview might sound like our interview close out. I'll

746
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: just tell you. I'm just I just gotta put out

747
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: there earl in this conversation with people listen to me

748
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: because they know I tell the truth. You special young lady.

749
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Tammy what. It was funny because this

750
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: show was created with me at a twenty three year

751
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: old kid who had I was in college at the time,

752
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: never wrote anything but a play that was at the

753
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: Public in New York, and that was my third writer.

754
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: And Lee Dan he was like, I'm gonna go to

755
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: the street and find your writer because I really think

756
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: it's something here. So I said, okay, Lee whatever. He

757
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: found this kid on my birthday, flew me out from

758
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: wherever I was performing there and make a long story short,

759
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: I meet him and we get to talking and you know,

760
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: we create the pilot our sales where they say we

761
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. And then he get a job and

762
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: he tells me because we're really close, he's twenty three

763
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: years old, and we call him the dreamer there. He

764
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: was like, I know who you're gonna be your husband,

765
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: and I know who's gonna be your sister. And so

766
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: he pulled Tammy Roman up in the bonnet chronic chronic

767
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: that she does on Instagram, and I was like, no,

768
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: They're like crazy. She's not gonna be my sister. He

769
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: was like, I'm telling y'all are so good. Y'all like

770
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: Lucien Ethan and got and I was like no, and

771
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: so and then and later on I found out she

772
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: was a reality star and I was like, Blue, I

773
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: don't want to reality star on the show. I want

774
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 1: real actors because this is my first acting gig. He's like, no, Pat,

775
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: just listen. So we we we auditioned, we audition and

776
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: I found a girl that I thought I really like.

777
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: So we She had number one by her name and

778
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: walked Tammy Roman with the nail's pain that just just

779
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: looked like this character from Top to Talk. And I

780
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: didn't like her. I did not like her. But baby,

781
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 1: when she walked out of that room and I looked

782
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: at everybody's like that, go Denise. She came and she

783
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: stold it. She stole a job. I mean literally, she

784
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't hand her anything because you know, all because she

785
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: had a name. Who wasn't trying to get people an Instagram.

786
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: We was trying to get real actors. And when I

787
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: tell you we're actors and real actress, when I tell you,

788
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: this girl came into that room, and stole that job.

789
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: Stole that job, and the chemistry that we have on

790
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: set is like unreal. You know, It's like like when

791
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: you can't the way the way this the way this

792
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: show was cast, you were like, I almost believe this

793
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: is a real family, from the husband to all the kids.

794
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: You know, we we we didn't leave no stone unturned.

795
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: But she did a wonderful job. And I'm so happy

796
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: that people can see another light of Tammy because there

797
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: was like, she's an actress. I'm like, this girl can

798
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: act behind and fun me. I'm telling you something because

799
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: I know Tammy all the way back to Steve Harvey

800
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: sitcom on w B. That's when I first knew she

801
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: could act. You know she did. She did a couple

802
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: of cameos on His Serious way back then. Then she

803
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: went into this reality star role. And so when I

804
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: started reading the credits, I go, Dammy Rome and doing

805
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: the stand up there doing a comedy and the first

806
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: scene that she comes in and she just lays it

807
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: out there go her timing, and uh, it was, you know,

808
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: acquire me. I'm just gonna tell you what that means.

809
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: They tried to acquire me, you know, and h y'all

810
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: look at the show. Y'all just look at the show.

811
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: Y'all find out what that means. That that's a that's

812
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: such a temple of who she is. She as they say,

813
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: my mom will tell me she's shiftless, she's lazy, she

814
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: has no aspirations. But she got a sister, and the

815
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: sister got patience with her, and the family got patience

816
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: with her. She teach she's to know at all. But

817
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: when you when you have a person like that who

818
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 1: comes in who you you didn't think it was the one? Now, pat,

819
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: you didn't think there was on your show? You know,

820
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: ms Pad. I want the actress and I want people

821
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: I've seen on TV. And it's so funny because when

822
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: I when I listened to this interview, you didn't watch TV,

823
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: you didn't watch movies. You didn't know nothing about the

824
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: history of stand up comedy. Sometimes I figure out how

825
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: you making decisions with somebody she can't do the job,

826
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: and you do you know about four or five people

827
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: on your hands? That's all you know. I mean, I'm

828
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: not I'm a comedian, but I don't watch reality shows.

829
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm more over, I'm an age drug dealer, so I

830
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: like games the movies, you know, like Knockos the Wire.

831
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: I watched those. You have to throw Me off the boat,

832
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, I don't watch that kind of stuff. So

833
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: you're knocking, You're knocking reality. So you was knock on Netflix. Yeah,

834
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: you're my girl. You're my girl right then? Coming on

835
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: hand I like that kind of stuff on handmade tailor

836
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: is not drug dealing. Hand made well, it is a

837
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: place where they cut off things. I mean I was like,

838
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: I like that. So when she came alone, I mean,

839
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: she just she just fit the bills. She really did.

840
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: And I remember talking to she said, you know, people

841
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: like I know you what you probably heard about me.

842
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: I said, I have never heard anything about you, because

843
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: I didn't even know who you was until we started casting.

844
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: And I said, look, I take for who they are,

845
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: not for what somebody else say. You did. You know

846
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Hey, I don't come through me who

847
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: you are. I don't. I don't dislike you for what

848
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: somebody else dislike you for. I get to know people,

849
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: and I got to know and I mean she is

850
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: just a wonderful person to work with, you know. And

851
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: one thing about me, I'm real. So I sent my

852
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 1: cast down and I said, hey, we're not gonna worry

853
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: about no call. She who's first on the call, She

854
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: who's a star? I said, because this is all of

855
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: our show. It takes all of us to get this

856
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: done it. I said, you know, the only difference is

857
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: that they got my name on it. I'm no fool.

858
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: I know it's my show, I said, but I can't

859
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: do it without you guys. So we all stars. And

860
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: I just broke down that Hollywood bearer from the day one.

861
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: The only difference is all pay checks. Here's here's the

862
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: funny part about that speech she just gave me. She said,

863
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: you know I need all y'all. You know, you know,

864
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: don't worry about that call sheet, but my name on

865
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: the show. So don't get stupid. Now you get stupid

866
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: that on that one day, you get stupid and forget that.

867
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remind you this miss Patting and I Patricia

868
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: weaves straight out to street from a drug dealer convicted fella.

869
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: I will show you of part of reality that you

870
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: don't want to see about me. And that's what the

871
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: reality this show is bringing all these individual girls. I know.

872
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about Tammy Roman from a stand up

873
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: comedian from a from a comedian standpoint, how she stood out?

874
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: But your husband and he's funny, your young son's funny.

875
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that opening. And like I said, the

876
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: show opens you with heard talking, you know, because I'm

877
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: not gonna give away the show too much, but it

878
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: did the transitions into her house, and it is the

879
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: plane right and right right it is. It's really like

880
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 1: I said, it's really so slick the way you guys

881
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: are doing it, and it's so entertaining, you know. I

882
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: was really fascinated about. And some of my questions were

883
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: from a production standpoint. Some of my questions where how

884
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: much were you involved when this whole creative cold opening

885
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: and the character set up? And also the scripts? Do

886
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: you do you get to play with Hey, I don't

887
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: like that line? Could I say that line? Do they

888
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: shoot several scenes and this is the scene from the

889
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: script they go do your thing scene? Because a lot

890
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: of times when they have talented comedians like you, they go, hey, okay,

891
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: this is a script, but do your thing on this

892
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: with misspath. How does that work? Actually we had writers.

893
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: We had writers, honestly, but that was not one strip

894
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: that we didn't go back and touch, so you know,

895
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: you can have anybody, you know, mostly writers with this

896
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: show is there too to build a form because it's

897
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: such my voice. So I have to touch every strip

898
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: and and some of them had to be totally rewritch,

899
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: absolutely totally reach. So de bother down to and me

900
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: and the co creator Jordan Cooper wrote every strip. We

901
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: wrote on every strip, so um, only men him was

902
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: allowed to change things. Know, it was never like do

903
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: your thing, because I felt like we wrote these trips

904
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: funny enough that we everybody she made to follow the trip.

905
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: Now we didn't make up some stuff on the floor

906
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: and as fun as production and all of that stuff

907
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: you see opening that came from this twenty three year

908
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: old he's twenty six now, twenty six year old kid.

909
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: I did all that plane opening and the way I

910
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: do the monologues and the comedy of firm, all that

911
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: stuff came from him. You know. We literally wrote each

912
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: one of those monologue the day before I was supposed

913
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: to shoot it. All the comedy in that up front

914
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: to tell you what the show was about, how to

915
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: show open. A lot of that stuff was wrote at

916
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: the last minute, and it wasn't easy either. Absolutely Now

917
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: now you know your your your surge to comedy start them.

918
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: Like I said, I talked about when You first, When

919
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: You series was first picked up on Fox at sixteen,

920
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: and he recently did a Netflix first special one you know,

921
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: COVID came out, so that cut down you couldn't tour

922
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: taking advantage of all that great not to ride? Did

923
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: we know? Stand up comedy is we make our money live?

924
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: And so now you have this amazing sitcom on BT

925
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: Plus called Miss Pat. Okay, What's what's what? We're gonna

926
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: see your comedy clubs out of you don't see you

927
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: three thousand Sea There's or we're gonna see uh, We're

928
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: gonna see a United Center, or you want to see matters?

929
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: What are we gonna see? How to Miss Pall? You're

930
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: gonna come back and do the stay Farm? You know,

931
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 1: readA by yourself. What we're gonna do here in Atlanta, George?

932
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do? Miss Pat? I'm just putting you

933
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: on the spot, young lady. Come on now, well, I

934
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: hope you know I'm open for theaters and stuff like that.

935
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm hoping. Come on now, You're way too confident be

936
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: sitting up in hoping don't be humbled on this show.

937
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: Your talent doesn't allow you to be humble. Come on,

938
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: you're in your phase. You're special. Well, I mean, I'm

939
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: looking forward to moving into theaters. I'm doing really well

940
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: in clubs right now. I'm looking I'm looking forward. You know.

941
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: I like the intimates of the club. But I understand

942
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: that my career is going a lot that I'm not

943
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: gonna be I'm not gonna work myself to them doing

944
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: nine of the shows because I'm I'm forty nine years

945
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: so I mean, I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward

946
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: to whatever. You know, the career brains. I love people.

947
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: I love doing stand up. Stand Up is number one

948
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: for me because it's the only thing that I can't control.

949
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: You know, as far as a TV show, they say

950
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: the Misspatched show will be T Plus and Fox on

951
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: this show, so I work for them. You know your

952
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: part about it. My name is on it, but in

953
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: the end is their show. They bought it. So I

954
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: focus on what I can't control, which is my stand up.

955
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: So you will be saying on people can know that

956
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: you'll be seeing a lot more on my stand up

957
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: because that's where I grind the hardest that. Now, let's

958
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about you know, you know, because you know,

959
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: you can get popular a lot of ways nowadays through

960
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: social media, through YouTube channel. Now what impacted popularity did

961
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: the Netflix special have on your career? Netflix helped me

962
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: out a lot. And honestly, they they're really nice over there.

963
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: I've worked with them a lot. Uh they're getting ready

964
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: to my first special. When when when we're ready? But um,

965
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: that doing that that quarter hour helped out a lot.

966
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: Also doing the cabin on with Bert christcher on that

967
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: all that stuff, everything to me is a piece of

968
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: the puzzle to put my career into place. So those

969
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: little pieces that those chips that Netflix had me, it

970
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: was just another piece. This show that BT plus had me,

971
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: it's another piece. All of it just a poser to me.

972
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: And we're putting it together now. Okay, now now we've

973
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: gotta be T plus to show. It's premiered in August.

974
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: Have you been able to start feel a shift of

975
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: like people like me getting excited about you, people in

976
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: the street, going in the grocery shore Now we're wearing

977
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: masks and someplace you're not wearing mad How is that

978
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: affecting you? Are you are you feeling Are you feeling

979
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: you know? You know you gotta got that that that

980
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: that sentister smile. You know, I don't know if you're happy.

981
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're ready to punch me into forehead.

982
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: Where are you at with your life? Are you happy

983
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: with what's happening? Or you're happy people with the popularity

984
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: of this new series is bringing in to your life.

985
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that. I mean, I'm very happy. Uh,

986
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: the show just for me her last week, So I

987
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: haven't been. I'm I'm on a set right now. You

988
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: know behind me, I'm in a trailer. I'm shooting another pilot.

989
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: So I haven't been outside with people. Are Oh my god,

990
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: that's miss pat. So I've been to the airport. I

991
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: won't know until next week. So I mean, I'm getting

992
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm getting noticed a lot more now. But you know,

993
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: I Papa been places people don't expect me, and Papa

994
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: pay my my my bags A line is right there

995
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: or Hill Street in Atlanta, and I'm walking about what

996
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: the heck are you doing here? I mean to get

997
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: my wings put on like you? So, um, nothing has

998
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: really changed, Like everybody's like, what do it feel like?

999
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: It feels like I need to go to work. That's why.

1000
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: That's why I'm here. I'm working so I don't really

1001
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: get caught up in the fame and all of that stuff.

1002
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: And I don't need you to open the dope for me,

1003
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: and I drive myself right now. Uh, it's just worked

1004
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: for me, and I'm happy to see that people are

1005
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: start to notice how hard I want to get where

1006
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm at. So that's what makes me happy. Just people like, oh,

1007
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: my god, I didn't know you was there. Oh that

1008
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: this show is really good. It took five years for

1009
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: this show to get on TV or the three networks,

1010
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: three writers on a lot of t years. Well that

1011
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: that that's the part that I like about you, you know,

1012
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: because of the fact that a lot of people see Hollywood,

1013
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: they see this sitcom and say, if I don't bring

1014
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: that up in my intro and we're talking honestly about it,

1015
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: people say, oh, she would it just happened? No, sixteen,

1016
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: she thought it was gonna happen. So that was a

1017
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: high for her Fox and then and then twenty and

1018
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: einteen Hulu. There was another high for her when you

1019
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: went to b T plus. What was your emotion at

1020
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: that point where you like, whatever you know, I I

1021
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: see it when I see it. And because it went

1022
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: to some more advanced steps that made you feel it

1023
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: was going to happen, where were you at? And then

1024
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm over here, you know, just Googland

1025
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: and just gushing about how brilliant you are and how

1026
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: just I'm in love with miss pat and the show

1027
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: on BT plus. Where were you at each one of

1028
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: those steps in sixteen? And then when when when I

1029
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: got there holding deal and we found a writer, I

1030
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: was happy. I was I'm finally gonna get a show,

1031
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: and things didn't work out, so we switched the writer,

1032
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: and then we went to another writer. Things didn't work

1033
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: out again, so I started to lose comfort there and

1034
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: then I said, you know what, if you're gonna happen,

1035
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. I'm so happy. I had Lee Daniel

1036
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: there to say. Look, and my friend John Ratler wanted

1037
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: the producer that helped found me. He was like, it's done.

1038
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: I happened sometime when he's great, you just take a

1039
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: longer time. I never get One of the producer named

1040
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: Francis told me that, so I said, okay, that's fine,

1041
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: and we ended up getting a writer and then we shot.

1042
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: We shoot the pilot, and I kept telling everybody, they're

1043
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: not gonna pick it up. My spirit told me Hulu

1044
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: was not gonna pick it up. Hulu dropped it, and

1045
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, Lulu, when we're going from here.

1046
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: They was like, I will find your home. When bt

1047
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: plus popped up, my first thing was, well, what that

1048
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: was bt blow? I t Plus and it was like

1049
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: picked up and then they're gonna give your guys turn up.

1050
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: So I was like, what is that. They was like,

1051
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: they just started a new streaming service and at the time,

1052
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: it was like maybe a year old, and he was

1053
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: looking up. They only got a million subscribers. You kind

1054
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: of you know, it's a kind of shift shift in

1055
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: your Happening's like wow, we went from Hulu to hear.

1056
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: And so I had to tell the co creator. I said,

1057
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: let me tell you something about life. I've learned. You

1058
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Speaker 1: be right back with more money making conversation with Rashaan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: and the AD Council. You are now tuned into the

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Speaker 1: money making conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. This week,

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Speaker 1: I sat down with deal of Hospitality Group owner Michelle

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Speaker 1: Snoop Dealer, There's nothing this serial entrepreneur can't do. With

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Speaker 1: five restaurants recal and switched to tourism and travel agency

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Speaker 1: at charity organization, real estate investments, and a business consultant agency.

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Speaker 1: She still found time to start a new mentorship program

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Speaker 1: that speaks to the importance of good credit and putting

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Speaker 1: your business back on the fast track to success. Who

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Speaker 1: is soaks throughout a millions menstorship program. I pretty much

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Speaker 1: started this menstorship program during COVID. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that I did while we were ship down was to

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Speaker 1: film various courses that I felt would be helpful to

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Speaker 1: people who wanted to get into entrepreneurship, who wanted to

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Speaker 1: start saving and investing, who wanted to get into restaurant

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Speaker 1: ownership UM and then also during a way myself. If

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Speaker 1: you were to hear this full interview with Michelle Snoop

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Speaker 1: Dealer is available on Money Making Conversations dot com. Now

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Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversation with Rushan McDonald. My

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Speaker 1: next guest is Jay Arrington Gavin. While doing research for

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Speaker 1: the right ingredients for his beer in twenty sixteen, I

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Speaker 1: don't I have a beer like him? He got a beard.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just happy to what I got. Day

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Speaker 1: Aaron to begin to share his findings and use his

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Speaker 1: family and friends as human testers. He then went on

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Speaker 1: to receive his bachelor's degree in Wellness, Recreation and Sports

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Speaker 1: and twenty seventeen. His passion for the art of human

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Speaker 1: body left him with a burning desire to help individuals

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Speaker 1: accomplish their personal best by living a healthy lifestyle through

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Speaker 1: fitness and wellness. From that desire gave birth to Rugged Evolution,

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Speaker 1: a Beer Carolina product that he makes available to other

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Speaker 1: men of distinction. He's a good friend of mine, a

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Speaker 1: young friend of mine, and I've been, like to believe

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Speaker 1: I've been mentoring and helping him along the way. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome to money Making Conversation. To see you and founder

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Speaker 1: a Rugged Evolution, Jay Arrington Gavin, How you doing, sir?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, my friend, How are you being well?

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Speaker 1: First of all, you you're smiling man, and uh, it's

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Speaker 1: been a fun journey. I First of all, how is

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Speaker 1: your mom? I gotta I gotta say how the mom? Okay,

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Speaker 1: my mom is doing awesome. She's doing everyone's doing great.

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Speaker 1: Healthy vaccinator. Everybody's doing all right? I know that's that's

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Speaker 1: really key. And uh in the business, did your end

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Speaker 1: is dealing with look is dealing with facials, dealing with

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Speaker 1: people are in close quarters? Sometimes? Talk about your business

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Speaker 1: during the COVID and did you have to make any

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Speaker 1: adjustments during the pandemic when the country shut down? Did

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Speaker 1: it impact you positively? Did you do a p P P.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the whole process in Well, we were

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Speaker 1: very fortunate. Um, for one, where are an e commerce site,

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Speaker 1: but we are located in our products are sold in

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Speaker 1: a uh selective brick and mortar stores in Hampton Roads, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: But actually during the during that time, I was moving

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Speaker 1: into a much larger office space in March of so

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Speaker 1: when when the whole shutdown was going, I was moving

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Speaker 1: on up to a much bigger office and warehouse space. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, continue to grow and grow. Sales were still

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Speaker 1: you know, still steady. But we were very fortunate. Um uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we were. We were very blessed really doing during COVID,

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Speaker 1: But it was still an adjustment because you had to

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Speaker 1: get creative. I think whenever a new obstacle comes upon

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Speaker 1: comes my way, it helps me grow as a business

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Speaker 1: owner and as an entrepreneur. So with that being said,

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Speaker 1: we we got more creative with things. UM did stuff

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Speaker 1: a lot more virtual. We did a lot of Facebook

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Speaker 1: Live during the during COVID, just to continue to stay

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Speaker 1: relevant to people that do follow us, almost kind of

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Speaker 1: like a QI theme style of Facebook Live. So we

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Speaker 1: were doing very good and adjusting and getting really creative

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Speaker 1: during during the COVID. Well, I will tell you you

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Speaker 1: now and the two we talked about a long time

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Speaker 1: ago about you being the face of your brain and

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Speaker 1: at the time, you know a little little bit the

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Speaker 1: confidence for them there, you know. I mean one time

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Speaker 1: we did an interview and you said, you know so

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Speaker 1: many times and hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Gavin, Look,

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Speaker 1: we want to do this interview again. I'm not putting

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Speaker 1: you out there like that, young man. And you understood

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Speaker 1: what I was talking about because I had your best interest,

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Speaker 1: and you did it again. And look at you now

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Speaker 1: you got a podcast. I won't get you farther in

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Speaker 1: the interview. I can see the confidence and how you're

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Speaker 1: talking in articulation. Talk about that growth man, and then

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Speaker 1: also talk about the responsibility of becoming the face of

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Speaker 1: your brand and being able to articulate the value of

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Speaker 1: your brand from your personal point of view. Well, you

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Speaker 1: you said the the very first interview that I had

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Speaker 1: with you, miss McDonald, I was nervous. You can hear

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Speaker 1: you can hear the nerves like you said, Um, I

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Speaker 1: definitely took all your advice to hard learned groom more

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Speaker 1: of the vending shows that I attended. I looked at

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Speaker 1: that as a form of you know, working on my

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Speaker 1: speaking and talking in public with people promoting my brand.

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Speaker 1: That confidence booster. I mean it was everything was growth,

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Speaker 1: whether it was especially being the face of my business

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Speaker 1: and of my brand. Um, if I don't show that confidence,

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Speaker 1: nobody's gonna believe in my brand. So I had to

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Speaker 1: build up that confidence and had to uh definitely continue

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Speaker 1: to educate myself. I educate myself every day with my products,

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Speaker 1: the type of ingredients I put in my products, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, new things, old things, making sure I'm not

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Speaker 1: behind but ahead of the game at all at all times.

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Speaker 1: And um, that's really how I continue to grow and

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Speaker 1: grow every day. And this is I always think of

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Speaker 1: the first the first time I was on the show,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's it's it's it's always always have to

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Speaker 1: last myself. So well, there's just by growth. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's about being able to be honest. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I've done all my life. You know, I always are

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Speaker 1: like mentored and uplift and made sure that people understand

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Speaker 1: their skilled your you just saw you didn't see what

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Speaker 1: I saw you at the time. You know, you were

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Speaker 1: you were a guy who it was the CEO of

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Speaker 1: a company. He was very young when you started it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've been wearing you've been having a full

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Speaker 1: beer since you were fourteen years old, and so all

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Speaker 1: these things aren't put you in a position then you

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Speaker 1: had to understand how you can create value from that,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So but but what I've

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Speaker 1: known just the most is before we even get into

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Speaker 1: the products, and I'm just gonna do the word evolution,

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Speaker 1: is how beards have taken on a life of their own,

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Speaker 1: kind of like what Michael Jordan did with the bald hair,

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Speaker 1: bald head when he shaved his head playing basketball. Talk

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Speaker 1: about how that and then you know, you have a

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Speaker 1: lot of famous people in the NBA who have really

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Speaker 1: marketed their beards and things like that. So but outside

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Speaker 1: of them, just the it's cool to wear a beard.

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Speaker 1: It always was kind of cool, but it feeds like

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Speaker 1: it's really come out to the forefront. And that's why

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Speaker 1: a brand like yours is starting to benefit because you're

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Speaker 1: providing beer care beard care products. Yeah. So I always

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Speaker 1: love to say, you know, in previous years, beards were

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Speaker 1: always like you said, was always cool, but it was

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Speaker 1: still a form of like, you know, if you have

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Speaker 1: this interview, be sure to shave that off, and if

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Speaker 1: you have this job, be sure to save this all.

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Speaker 1: So I've always want to promote that whether you're work

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Speaker 1: in corporate America or whether you are a label worker,

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Speaker 1: you can still be a man of distinction while rocking

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Speaker 1: a well groomed beer. Um, it's not a it's not

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Speaker 1: a trend now, it is a movement. Um, you see

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Speaker 1: men of higher power, you see men at you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: mid level jobs, or even all all jobs. They're rocking

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Speaker 1: facial hair beers, mustache, go tee. It's nothing wrong with it.

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Speaker 1: So Um, as far as the evolution of growing, it

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01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: is starting to grow and show that you can still

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Speaker 1: be a man distinction, have that confidence while rocking a

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Speaker 1: well groomed beer. Well, like I said, now that they're

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Speaker 1: there are different layers of beer you have to go

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01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: to talk about. You know, we say beard beard care products,

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01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: but you have gotees, you have mustache. All your products

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Speaker 1: can work in that in that care Caroline, because you

1276
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: should take care of your much dad, you should take

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01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: care of all this stuff. So let's not just say

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01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: if you don't have if you just have a beard,

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01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: your then that's what your product. For your product is

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Speaker 1: for any facial hair correct that, sorry, it is for

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01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: all facial hair types. Are product. At the end of

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01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: the day, our facial hair fellows are the magnets of

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01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 1: bacteria and Greece. Whether you have a thin shadow, whether

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01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: you have just a mustache, whether you have the van dyke,

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01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: the goatee, the beard is still the magnetum bacteria in

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01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: grease and if you don't take care of that. Right now,

1287
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: we're in a warmer climate, so when we sweat a lot,

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01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: all that sweat, it builds up to that facial hair

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: and it starts and then you start having the older,

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01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: the issy irritation on the skin bacteria. So you don't

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01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: want that. So you always need to have a great

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01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: product with with you in order to maintain that because

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. I always say, you

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01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: gotta take care of your body internally as well as externally.

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Speaker 1: I would tell you everybody I I do use rugged

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01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: Evolution products. He sent me that little round brush. I

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01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: don't know if you still because I got two up,

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01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: the little round brush, that round and my wife would

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01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: look at me, she said, it really does. I would

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01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: brush my bridge, she said, it really does make a

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: big difference. And how of all my products? You know,

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01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: I got everything I got, I got the fark, I

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01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: got a little small, but I get that little round

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 1: brush man, and it would make ab and I would

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01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people come to me try

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01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: to use their products, but nobody uh touches that brush. Man.

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01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about other products, but I won't let

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01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 1: you know that brush that that that travels with me.

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01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: I got up aught another one. I keep one at

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01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: the office, I keep one at home. I keep one

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01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: in my travel back. I got three of them. Well

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: that's only because see that brush when you brush twice

1313
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: a day, what that does? That SI me the hair

1314
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: folical soe you always gonna brush twice a day helps

1315
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: open up those hair follicles. So that's a really great

1316
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 1: thing while you can see to maintain that? Why your wife,

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01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: so you said, I see a difference by you know,

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01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: I would do it in the mirror right next tour

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: And she goes, if she could see, decide, just laid

1320
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: my hair down right and then, you know, because your

1321
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: hair would kind of like start separating, but it would

1322
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: bring it all together, give me a fullness. I guess

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01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: that's what it. It would give me a fullness to

1324
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,839
Speaker 1: my beard, you know, my to what level? Now what

1325
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get away in your trade secrets?

1326
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: What made your brush a one that affected my beard

1327
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: versus other competition? Because that hair brush is fantastic. Well,

1328
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: the key thing is the types of bristles. I have

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01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: one brush right here on the table. That's one of

1330
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: our busts. Those board bristles are is with key. You

1331
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: never want anything too hard because our skin is very sensitive.

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01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 1: So you don't want to have something, you know, scratching

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01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: the skin at all. You want to have a board brustle.

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01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: Board bristles. It is like almost in between. It's slightly

1335
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: hard but very soft, so and it always stays consistent too,

1336
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: right and then and then I like to call a

1337
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: lot the little eye dropper. You put the eye dropper

1338
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: putting on your beard, make your beard shining. So I

1339
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: got a little I can't never get your technical world,

1340
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: but I know I pull that little I drop out

1341
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: man A couple of my hands feeling like that, putting

1342
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: my beer looking shot. I get that brush right behind it.

1343
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: If I if I ain't looking good, I think I

1344
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: look good. Alright there, that's all I gotta say. Right,

1345
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 1: that's right. What are you looking good? It's me? Are

1346
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: you looking great? You're looking great? So so talk about

1347
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: some of the products that you're having, and then we're

1348
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 1: also gonna go back to the backpacks. I want to

1349
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: definitely talk about what you're doing up and happening brow

1350
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: because I got such a really good restaurants and reaction

1351
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: when I posted about it last year my social media.

1352
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: You know, you contacted me, you say could I posted?

1353
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'll do anything for you, and also going

1354
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: to make a donation to you this year as well. Uh,

1355
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: just making the difference. But let's talk about the product.

1356
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: You know, here has some products in front of you.

1357
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: If you're watching this on video, you can see it.

1358
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna be as as as uh as as creative

1359
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: and descriptive as possible for people who are listening on

1360
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: my podcast on my radio show. But tell us what

1361
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: you got in front of us there. So I just

1362
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: have a slight view of our products. So in total

1363
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: of Regulolution Beercare, I started off actually with just four

1364
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 1: cents of beard bombs and beard oils and all natural beercarelines.

1365
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 1: So now we now have sixteen cented beer bombs beard oil.

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01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: As you see right here, I have my leaving I'm

1367
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: excusing our conditioning shampoo. Who is a beard watched that

1368
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: I recommend stink. It's especially during the summertime. And we

1369
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: just launched two new products. So I have my leaving

1370
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: beard moisturizer. It's a beard cream. It's the scent of ginger.

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01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: It is so good. It's a very popular seller right now.

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01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: We just launched that about two months ago. And um

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01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 1: it's mainly because again for the for the summertime, for

1374
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: this heat, I try to adjust the routine when it

1375
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: comes to beard maintenance. You don't want to apply too

1376
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,799
Speaker 1: much uh bomb, which is still good because the great moisturize,

1377
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: but you don't apply too much and have all that

1378
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: oil build up. So have something that you know, that's

1379
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: a non greasy, uh substance onto that face. So this

1380
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: is our leaving beard moisturizer. And then we also have

1381
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: our our excuse me, our smooth Stats are Smooth Stats.

1382
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: We just launched that in March for Mustache Months, and

1383
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: it's a must oil serum right here. And what you

1384
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: do is just you just apply this. You can do

1385
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: either five seconds to ten seconds. You can go in

1386
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: small circles or right across. We started at for our

1387
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 1: mustache sporters. But as long as you have like a

1388
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: nice repeat it again what you just said there, Gavin,

1389
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: what was that you just had? What was that down? This?

1390
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: This is the This is called Snooze Stats. Just a

1391
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 1: mustache serum. Okay. So and it it comes in this

1392
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: dispense with this little small robot and you can see

1393
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: that's a small robot at the top. And you just

1394
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: applied just like that about five is ten seconds. You're

1395
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: all good to go. And it actually comes in a

1396
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: black velvet bat with our new Ruggedolution mustache comb. So

1397
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: right after you finish that, you can apply that comb

1398
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: right there. You're all good to go, and you can

1399
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: bring it with you at all time. It's very easy

1400
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: to travel. Oh you got you gotta slick on me, Gavin.

1401
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: I would you know because sometimes listening to go what

1402
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: are you? Because it wasn't ball, because this is got ball.

1403
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: It's a mustache. I gotta I gotta get that. I

1404
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: gotta get that. Now. Now I got the little the

1405
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 1: little can the charisters were you know, you open and

1406
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: then you put on your face as well. Yes, yes,

1407
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: talking about that. So our beard bomb, our beer bomb

1408
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: is mainly for men with two inches or more for

1409
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: guys with length, and it's used as a detangler still

1410
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: as a great moisturizer. But we have a sixteen cents

1411
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: sense of the beard bombs. I always will say, like

1412
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: the thing of the beer bomb is like a dressing.

1413
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: So the beard oil is made to treat the skin first.

1414
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: So you always want to continue to use the beard

1415
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: oil because you've gotta make sure that skin is taking

1416
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 1: care of underneath the hair in order to help enhance

1417
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: and benefit your your beard. So you apply the beard

1418
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: oil first, and while you do that, get right there

1419
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: and good in those roots to tip. Then you apply

1420
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of beer bomb, which I use every day.

1421
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 1: Beard oil and beer bomb and um, and then you

1422
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 1: you apply one of our our accessories, one of our

1423
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: Beard Wooden combs, and you're all good to go, looking

1424
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: great and smooth. Well you look well, thank you because

1425
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: you you You're You're the reason I look great to

1426
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: smooth if I'm looking great because of gap. Let's just

1427
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: let y'all know what now, gavit. Here's a deal man.

1428
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: Now talk a you got now? You got a podcast now?

1429
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 1: And you know I ain't been on the podcast. I

1430
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: ain't mad now. I ain't mad, y'all. I'm not not

1431
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: yet not. Yeah, he all say great things, but Roushan

1432
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: went to Beard, the old guy trying to get that

1433
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: young demo. I know what he's trying to do. He

1434
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: ain't gonna bring the old guy on that right away.

1435
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: He's trying to get that young demo. Do you think

1436
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: I'm an a RP his old podcast. I'll tell your mama.

1437
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call your mama. I said, yeah, we were

1438
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: been Crocus came up to Hamptons and can't he put

1439
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: me on his podcast? But he's going in the year too.

1440
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: I still ain't got a phone call. That's all right.

1441
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: I love him though, I love I love that's too funny, Yeah,

1442
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: so we're so yeah. Our Our Smooth Club podcast. It's

1443
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: a new podcast that UM we started uh mainly during

1444
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: the during the shutdown, and it was something that it's

1445
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,480
Speaker 1: it's funny so much McDonald. When I started to attend universities,

1446
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 1: they always ask you know, what do you want a major?

1447
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: And would you want to pursue a dream of mine.

1448
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to be on radio, whether it was

1449
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: on a radio talk show or from when. I have

1450
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: a passion for dialogue. I love having a conversation with people.

1451
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 1: I highly think that, you know, conversation is something that

1452
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: can take care of all the world's problems by sitting down,

1453
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, talking, talking amongst each other. So, UM, the

1454
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: podcast is called Our Smooth Club and it's a show

1455
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: where everyday men discussed everyday topics. UM. Through my journey

1456
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: and growing my business, I met some great people who

1457
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: become great friends of mine. UM. This show is myself

1458
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: along with three of my friends who are also business owners.

1459
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: Young business owners were probably no more than like five

1460
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: years with our brands, and the age group ranges from

1461
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: twenty six to like sixty five. One of our co

1462
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: hosts um He is an international fashion designer he has

1463
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: his own custom suit collection for men and women. Um.

1464
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: Another gentleman has uh owned a travel agency. And then

1465
01:16:56,240 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: another gentleman who's sixty five, he has a uh have

1466
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: a daste store, one of a very historic store in

1467
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,839
Speaker 1: uh Northford, Virginia. And UM, we just talked about everyday topics,

1468
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 1: whether it's related to relationship, business, um, uh, the culture, politics,

1469
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: social issues, I mean with sports. We talked about it

1470
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: all and it's been a lot of fun. Um. We're

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01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: right now in season season two and we're available on

1472
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: our my YouTube channel, Rugged Evil TV, also on all

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Speaker 1: UM will continue to grow that platform and um, and

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna get you know, he go throw he

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Speaker 1: We're started incorporate cads. You know, we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: let your own. Mr McDonald, You're gonna put your own

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Speaker 1: do your thing. You know what I'm saying. You know,

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Speaker 1: but I'm proud of you, man, because you know what

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Speaker 1: what social media and It's about controlling your destiny. And

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Speaker 1: you can't step out there and say I want to

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Speaker 1: do something that I've always wanted to do. I look

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Speaker 1: at your presentation. That is fantastic. I look at the product. Now.

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Speaker 1: When you start developing new products, So who do you

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Speaker 1: work with? Are you working with a chemists? Are you

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Speaker 1: working with a company. How do you go through the

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Speaker 1: process of developing new products? Well, I usually I do.

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Speaker 1: I will have I have a few contexts. One that's

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Speaker 1: their I'm you know, I'm making my products. So as

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Speaker 1: far as the testers are concerned, I will test on myself.

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Speaker 1: I have a few other different beer types. I'll have

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Speaker 1: uh you know, different age groups, white beards, uh, black,

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Speaker 1: black beers, as far as the complection of the facial hair.

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Speaker 1: And that's how I usually tested. And also, you know,

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Speaker 1: I look around as far as on the market and see, okay,

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Speaker 1: what are we missing? What is something that a lot

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Speaker 1: or when it comes to something to help you take

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Speaker 1: care of their beards. So I put that on paper,

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Speaker 1: and then I'm like, Okay, look, this is something I

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Speaker 1: need to put down and I need to uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: start working on and uh that. And that's that's how

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Speaker 1: I do it. That's how I usually create, uh the

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Speaker 1: stuff that helps me when I'm creating a new product. Well,

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Speaker 1: the thing that that the really part of over your

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Speaker 1: life that I really have always been impressed with is

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Speaker 1: that you're just a regular guy, you know, and you've

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Speaker 1: taken a gift. You know, some people might consider having

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Speaker 1: a beard at fourteen, accurse and because you know you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get teased and sometimes bullied, you know about having

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Speaker 1: facial hair and and things like that. And then but

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Speaker 1: you mature through that through uh you know, having having

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Speaker 1: a family, keeping your focus and also then you understand

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Speaker 1: that's not that's not something to be seen as a negative.

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Speaker 1: And then the whole process of evolving to a person

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Speaker 1: who's giving back to the community and something that out

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01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 1: of all this negative atmosphere that was going on with COVID,

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Speaker 1: you decided not to think about yourself last year. You

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Speaker 1: still have to think about others. What was the inspiration

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Speaker 1: behind thinking about others and why did it becoming become

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Speaker 1: important to do it again for the second year. Well,

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Speaker 1: as you know we would. We are very for sure.

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Speaker 1: We had our our Regevolution Foundation to back to School

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Speaker 1: Drive we had we had it in twenty nineteen. It

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Speaker 1: was a huge success. We had a goal of giving

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Speaker 1: out two dred and fifty backpacks still with school supplies.

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Speaker 1: We end up exceeding that goal to three hundred and

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Speaker 1: like sixty three and still had extra supplies to hand

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Speaker 1: out to the community. Um, but you know, due to

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Speaker 1: COVID last year. Uh, it was you know, I used

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Speaker 1: our physical therapy, and it was, you know, the first

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Speaker 1: thing I knew was, you know, no health matters. People matter.

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Speaker 1: I'm a people person, i love people. I'm a social butterfly.

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Speaker 1: I'm always saying hey, how you doing, introduced myself things

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Speaker 1: like that. So the first thing it was like the

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Speaker 1: health of people and people and the people in my

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Speaker 1: community as well as young people as well. So that

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Speaker 1: we decided not to do that. And I'm especially due

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Speaker 1: to the crowd size, but we're fortunate to have our

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Speaker 1: second annual this year. Um, it will be happening. Let

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Speaker 1: me see August twenty eight uh at a local erect

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Speaker 1: center in Chesspeake, Virginian Indian River Community Center. Um, we're

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Speaker 1: actually having a local radio station, w NSB Blazing Hot nine.

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Speaker 1: You one gonna be partnering with us for this event. Um,

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Speaker 1: and they're actually affiliated with the SBEC. They're affially with

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Speaker 1: the Norfling State Universities. Yeah, and we see you component

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Speaker 1: is tied into the campaign, right yeah. Yeah. In our

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Speaker 1: goal this year is to give out five hundred backpacks

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Speaker 1: fill with school supplies. We're gonna be having free food,

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Speaker 1: uh free, uh, let me see free free cashcus, give

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Speaker 1: me free prizes and um a free uh ice cream

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Speaker 1: truck giving out free ice cream. We have a gentleman

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Speaker 1: giving out popcorn, cotton candy, the slushies. We have fire trucks,

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Speaker 1: para medics. We're gonna have the sheriff department doing identities

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Speaker 1: for the kids. UM, a couple of other local small

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Speaker 1: organization organizations out coming out their music. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun and open to the community and

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Speaker 1: so free haircuts too. Well. The thing about it is

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Speaker 1: that I got a couple of clients I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to get on your podcast. You know that

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Speaker 1: are really talented. You know, they look younger than me,

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Speaker 1: you know, but they're in the gospel music lane. And uh,

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Speaker 1: but they wear some they have some facial hair, and

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Speaker 1: I think it looked good on your shoulder when you

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Speaker 1: it's never about me. It's about to extending your brain

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Speaker 1: said Richard. And who you recommend? And Todd Delaney is

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Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the money making conversations many

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Speaker 1: week I sat down with the CEO of Forgotten Harvest,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Mays. Forgotten Harvest is one of the top nonprofits

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Speaker 1: in Michigan and one of the nation's premier food rescue organizations.

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Speaker 1: Formed the ny to fight two problems, hunger and waits.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Kirt Mays had to say, we gotta really

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Speaker 1: come together and think about the ways that we can

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Speaker 1: help each other even before people as um, so that

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Speaker 1: If you want to listen to this full interview with

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Speaker 1: Now let's return to Money Making Conversation through Sean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is by Job. He's an activist and

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Speaker 1: founder of Legal Equalizer and mobile app that allows users

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Speaker 1: laws for all fifty states, allows you to record or

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Speaker 1: go live with someone. By is originally from Gambia, West

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Speaker 1: Africa and moved to US in nineteen eighty when he

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Speaker 1: was just nine years old. Since living in the US,

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Speaker 1: By has dedicated countless hours to helping others, including volunteering

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Speaker 1: helping with the Fair Fight and New Jargia projects. Please

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Speaker 1: to money Making Conversation by job pretty good with my friend.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you tech your time to be on the show. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Where you're so you're based in Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah, I

1679
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 1: actually just recently moved moved this weekend to Davidson, North Carolina,

1680
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: which is my alma mater um. So the school gave

1681
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 1: me a grant to come up here and work on

1682
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: the app with some students and have the students learned

1683
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 1: how to be entrepreneurs and help them with that. So

1684
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: I just moved up to North Carolina, right north to Charlotte.

1685
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: But I'm normally in Atlanta this whole well, I'm very

1686
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,759
Speaker 1: familiar with the Queen City. That's what. Uh, that's what Charlotte,

1687
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: North Carolina is called a good food, good people. But

1688
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 1: you're back in Atlanta and it's good food and good

1689
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: people here too, And you have an app. So when

1690
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: once said the word app or somebody who engaged in

1691
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: developing the app, the word techie comes up, Oh, do

1692
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: you have a tech background? I do not. That's the

1693
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 1: funny thing. I have no background in tech at all.

1694
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: So I've had to get people that could code and

1695
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: do all of that stuff to get the app done

1696
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: for me. Now, why it's important to create this app?

1697
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: Because I read the bio kind of like what the

1698
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: incidents in St. Louis and growing to young man lose

1699
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: Michael Brown at the time that that it was didn't

1700
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 1: infuriate you? Did it angry? To make you angry? To

1701
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 1: make you feel helpless? What led to that? What were

1702
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: the emotions that it was running through your your mind

1703
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: and your body at the time. Um, it was a

1704
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 1: combination of a bunch of things for us. So it

1705
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 1: was that you know, I was angry, UM, nervous, uh, sad?

1706
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: You feel helpless? Um? And for me during that time

1707
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 1: Mike Brown and in the subsequent incidents afterwards, what really

1708
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,839
Speaker 1: got me. Was that feeling also of always when anything happened,

1709
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 1: it was always gonna be, um, what did they do wrong?

1710
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:43,799
Speaker 1: What did this person do wrong? Instead of you know, asking, okay,

1711
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: what where's the video, where's the where's the proof of

1712
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: what happened? So I really got tired of every time

1713
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 1: we saw a young and armed black person get shot,

1714
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: get beaten up, get anything happened to him, it was

1715
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 1: always going back to check on their past to see, hey,

1716
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: how did to escalate the situation rather than ask, okay,

1717
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 1: what the officer who has the power, what could they

1718
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: have done to be escalaate that situation? How could that

1719
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: move differently? So that was really the feeling. And it's

1720
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 1: just that frustration over and over in the cycle that's

1721
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: happened over and over again. Um. You know, since I've

1722
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: came here as a seven year old kid from Gambia,

1723
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 1: you know I can name you countless names from Rodney King,

1724
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: you know that was a year after I got here,

1725
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 1: right too, you know, Sean Bell to Oscar Grant to

1726
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Amadajiallo to you know, so we can just keep going

1727
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 1: names after name after name of this happening consistently. So

1728
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: when Mike Brown happened. It was just after that time

1729
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm fed up. And for me personally,

1730
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 1: I've been stopped so many times. I've been stopped a

1731
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty plus times in my life. So you

1732
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 1: feel that you basically have been stopped from being black,

1733
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: as they say, yeah, you know, the police stopping you

1734
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: because you're black. I know I've been stopped. Uh and

1735
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: I have cars that so why are you stopping me?

1736
01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 1: You know? And it makes you feel defenseless. Talk about

1737
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: walk us through the steps. So because as an African

1738
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: American male especially, we all have different experiences, we all

1739
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 1: look at the police differently. I know myself when the

1740
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 1: police stopped me, it is like the number one question

1741
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: is okay, fear. Fear goes through my mind, you know,

1742
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: fear under okay, Um, how do I get away from this?

1743
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about my side of the story. By

1744
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 1: how do I make sure I leave this moment alive?

1745
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: That's really crazy, I'm talking like this. I've educated man.

1746
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm a successful man. I live in the upper upper

1747
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: the upper tier neighborhood. I drive up with tier cars

1748
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: and so but here I am being stopped. And just

1749
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: recently I was stopped in Atlanta and de luke and

1750
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: uh and uh when you pulled me over, you know,

1751
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 1: put the tent to made sure my hands were on't

1752
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 1: the staring wheel? I asked him? He asked me for

1753
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: my my auto insurance. I said, do you mind, I

1754
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: gotta reach over here and look into my glove compartment

1755
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 1: and he said fine. I did that. There was no

1756
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: sudden rush to go over there, because I don't know

1757
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: how he's going to react. That is my experience. And

1758
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: of course eventually I was allowed to move on. And

1759
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 1: the second time I was cop stopped, I was in

1760
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: the vehicle and the that officer was white, the other

1761
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 1: officer black. He talking about, uh, my type of vehicle

1762
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: was in a hit and run accident. Of course I

1763
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: didn't have a dent on my car. Why are you

1764
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: stopping me? Brother? You can just walk around? And what?

1765
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: What did you not say hit and run? Because I

1766
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 1: didn't have attitude. I'm trying to get away, not by okay,

1767
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 1: but you did say hit and run though, okay? I said,

1768
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,679
Speaker 1: can you look around my vehicle seeing the damage? Walked around,

1769
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: y'all don't see anything. I said, Can I go? Oh? Yeah,

1770
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 1: you can go. You go you go. But these are

1771
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 1: the type of things that people of color, especially African

1772
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 1: American men, to have to deal with. Tell us some

1773
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: of your experiences and what runs through your head by

1774
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: when you're stopped by the police, black hard white police officer.

1775
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 1: You explained a lot of it. It's you know, I

1776
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: tell people all the time, I've never been the war,

1777
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 1: but I kind of understand what. So just talk about

1778
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 1: how PTSD feels. Like I was saying, it's a lot

1779
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 1: of the same experiences that you have. You described exactly

1780
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: what I've been through. Um, it's the PTSD feeling of

1781
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 1: your hand starts sweating, you get nervous. You know you've

1782
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 1: got nothing wrong, and you're still wondering, are they're gonna

1783
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 1: put those lights on or they're gonna pull me over?

1784
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: If they do pull me over, what they're gonna pull

1785
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: me over for? What kind of excuses it? So I've

1786
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 1: had everything where I've been pulled over from UM. Like

1787
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 1: I said, the first time, when I was twelve years

1788
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 1: old on an academic team trip in South Georgia. My

1789
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 1: team was predominantly a bunch of black kids. We had

1790
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: a few white kids on there, and then the other

1791
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 1: middle schools there were almost all black, and we were

1792
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: outside playing cards outside the hotel and they came there

1793
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: and they told us that, oh, yeah, there was a

1794
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 1: robbery here in the area, and you guys fit the

1795
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: description of the robber. Come to find out, it was

1796
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 1: a twenty nine year old person, was like six five,

1797
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 1: two hundred forty pounds. And here we are a bunch

1798
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: of middle school kids, nobody calling them five six, nobody

1799
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 1: way more than a hundred and fifty pounds. So can

1800
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,759
Speaker 1: wet and so you know, it's that I've been pulled

1801
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:18,600
Speaker 1: over for wearing my seatbelt the wrong way. He said, um,

1802
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, and I asked him, how how do I

1803
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 1: wear my seatbelt the wrong way? I've been stopped for

1804
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 1: being in my own neighborhood countless time, just like you said, people, well,

1805
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have any black people living in

1806
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: this neighborhood. What are you doing here? And you show

1807
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: him your idea and it's like, oh, you do live here.

1808
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: And actually the impetus that got me to get the

1809
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: app started. What got me going, honestly, was three months

1810
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 1: after Mike Brown that December. It was, um, I had

1811
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 1: I got pulled over three times in about a week

1812
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: and a half time frame by the Cab County p D.

1813
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 1: The first time the officer pulled me over, literally he

1814
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 1: told me, asked me what I was doing in my

1815
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 1: own neighborhood when I saw show him my I d was, oh,

1816
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 1: you do live here? Okay, I'm sorry, You're free to go.

1817
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 1: And so the second time I got pulled over, it's

1818
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: the only time that the judge has ever apologized in court.

1819
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: The officers printed on the ticket that I was at

1820
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: the stop sign for three seconds and not for five seconds.

1821
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 1: And so when I went to court, that judge looked

1822
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: at it and literally as that you haven't stopped. Watch

1823
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: where you are on your you know phone timing, Like

1824
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: how you know it's three or not four dot five.

1825
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 1: And so he was like, I'm sorry for it's the time.

1826
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 1: You're free to go. And the third time I got

1827
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,600
Speaker 1: stopped is really what got the impetus to get the

1828
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 1: app going, because like, I've been thinking about it for

1829
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: a while but had made the move, and this was

1830
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: times like okay, now we had to make this move.

1831
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: And so this time, um, I was headed to work.

1832
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 1: It was December twelve, heading to work. Another time I

1833
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 1: was working for insurance. I was selling insurance at all

1834
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 1: State and like, I've just been pulled over twice in

1835
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: the previous nine days by that state department. Officer gets

1836
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: behind me and so I don't think any of it.

1837
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 1: I drive a mill. He's still behind me. I switched lane.

1838
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 1: He switches lanes behind me. I switched another lane. He

1839
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 1: goes behind me. I'm like, okay, he's about to pull

1840
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: me over finding customs lightestow pulls me over, gets over there,

1841
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like wondering why I got stopped because I'm like, hey,

1842
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 1: I know I have my insurance. Is good. I just

1843
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 1: got pulled over. I had the other tickets. There was

1844
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: nothing else going on. So he pulls me over. He

1845
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: tells me, oh, there's a warm for your arrest and

1846
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 1: I told him, no, there's not, and he was like,

1847
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: how are you so sure. I was like, I literally

1848
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 1: got put it by your same department two times in

1849
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: the past week and a half, and no, none of

1850
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: them mentioned the warmth of my arrest. So then his

1851
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: attempt to get around that was then telling me, well,

1852
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 1: maybe the system for that. And when he told me that,

1853
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: I showed him the ticket I got from the same

1854
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 1: department before and said, well, sir, if the systems were

1855
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: down last week, how is he able to print out

1856
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: a ticket. It's not a handwritten ticket. This is the

1857
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: printed ticket he gave. So how was the system able

1858
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 1: to print this ticket but not tell him? I had

1859
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 1: a warmth of my arrest, and so had he gone

1860
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: back to the car and let me chill to check

1861
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: on that, they probably wouldn't even be in half right now.

1862
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 1: But instead of doing that, he said, well, while I

1863
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: check on this warmth, my h D, I'm gonna have

1864
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: to put you in handcuffs and put you in the

1865
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,640
Speaker 1: backs of my car. So he cuffed me, sat me

1866
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: in the back of his car for what seemed like

1867
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen minutes, while instead of calling in that warrant,

1868
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't he was there. I watched them walking around

1869
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 1: my car with a flashlight trying to see if he

1870
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: could find something in there. And he gets that and

1871
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 1: comes back he was I always say it valid, warrant

1872
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: is free to go. So I asked him, well, where

1873
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 1: was the warrant from this? I got his badge number,

1874
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 1: I got his name, and my mom and I went

1875
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: and made a complaint the next day. It's the only

1876
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 1: time I've made a complaint to the police department. But

1877
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 1: I could have had a lot more. But you know,

1878
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: it was at that time because I was just set

1879
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: up and so I made a complaint. They say he

1880
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: did nothing wrong, do something about it. So when I

1881
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 1: started the app, it wasn't even to start a business.

1882
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 1: It wasn't to make money. It wasn't anything more so than, hey,

1883
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 1: if I get pulled over, I want my mom. I

1884
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 1: wanted my girlfriend at the time you know where I was.

1885
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 1: I would know my best friends to know where I was.

1886
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: And I wanted the video of anything happened so people

1887
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: could not argue about, hey, what did he do wrong?

1888
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: And so literally that's what started the whole process of

1889
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: getting it was that stop of him night letting me

1890
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: call my job, not letting me call my mom, and

1891
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 1: him basically profiling me and pulling me over for no reason.

1892
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 1: It was like, you're free to go, because I told him,

1893
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 1: I felt like one of those fishing those catching release ponds.

1894
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna catch me at least eat me, don't just

1895
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 1: waste my time. So so that's so that's that's what

1896
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 1: got the impetus to start thinking about creating something to

1897
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 1: start protecting people when they got stopped. Imagine this, because

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01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 1: I've never been handcuffed, I've never been seated in the

1899
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: back of up. Now let's return to money making conversations

1900
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 1: with McDonald. It's uh, it was for me, it was

1901
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 1: just dehumanizing, That's what it was. It was. I know here,

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Speaker 1: I am. I'm a grown man who hasn't done no wrong,

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01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: who has been fine, and you know, I'm like, got

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01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: no criminal records or anything like that, and I can't

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01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 1: do anything about that. You know, if I fight you,

1906
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 1: if I do anything, you have the license to shoot

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01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 1: and kill me. So all I have is just to

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01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 1: sit here and take it and hopefully it comes out

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01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 1: like there where it says what you're accusing me of

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Speaker 1: is completely false and I'm free to go. So honestly,

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01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 1: that's like the last time I actually, like I had

1912
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Speaker 1: a heavy, heavy cry, you know, was because after I

1913
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 1: just felt like you weren't a man, you weren't even

1914
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: a human anymore, And it was just a the humanism

1915
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 1: of feeling to know that you've done nothing wrong and

1916
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 1: to have those handcuffs without you sitting the back of

1917
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 1: that car and just wondering, hey, is he gonna make

1918
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: up something. And for me, I'm thinking, what if he

1919
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: planned something in my car and says, now I found

1920
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 1: all these drugs, I found this gun or something like that,

1921
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 1: and then what am I gonna have to do next?

1922
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 1: Do I have legal recourse? What do I have to

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Speaker 1: do there? So those are all the things I think

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Speaker 1: about sitting in the back of that car. Is okay,

1925
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 1: how can I contact my mother? How can I contact

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Speaker 1: my brother? How can I contact my girlfriend? Like? How

1927
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 1: can I let my best friends know? Just different things

1928
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: like That's what brand through my mind that whole time. Well,

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01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 1: you know the thing that what I'm talking to. He's

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Speaker 1: an activist and founder of Legal Equalizer, a mobile after

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01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: allows you just to capture police encounters after being pulled over,

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01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 1: automatically notifying loved ones in real time, provide information on

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01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 1: legal rights involving that encounter, and receive legal advice at

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01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: the scene. It contains laws for all fifty states. Now,

1935
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: when you when you when you start an app like this,

1936
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: the first thing people go, how can you how? How

1937
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 1: does it work? I'm trying to get into your head

1938
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 1: now and develop the Legal Equalize you know, like I say,

1939
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: all ideas start out of frustration. All ideas start from

1940
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: trying to make life easier or much more or less complicated.

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01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 1: In this case, this is a This is a social

1942
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:37,560
Speaker 1: activist app. I would like to believe from a standpoint

1943
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 1: of it can physically protect you, can keep you, uh,

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01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:45,679
Speaker 1: protect your rights, and also educate you about your rights

1945
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 1: on the spot. Now is it okay? So walk me

1946
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 1: through how it would actually work if a police officer,

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01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 1: because this is a video as well. How would it

1948
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 1: work if something I'm sitting in there? Do I hold

1949
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 1: my phone up and he sees me holding the phone up?

1950
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: How does it work? By so, now we know in Georgia,

1951
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 1: in most states you can't have your phone in your hand.

1952
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 1: You have to have some kind of stand up there

1953
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 1: for the hands free and so we have the app

1954
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 1: there and so we can do a couple of ways.

1955
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: So if you get pulled over, So when you first

1956
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: log into the app, what happens is you go through

1957
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: the log in process and ask you for access to

1958
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Speaker 1: your contacts. When you get there, you're gonna pick at

1959
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Speaker 1: least five people, um that you trust, friends, family, or whoever.

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Speaker 1: And those are your emergency contacts. Now within the app,

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01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 1: we have laws for all fifty States rights and things

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01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: that you can do and all that stuff. We don't

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01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 1: want you doing that when you get pulled over. That's

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01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 1: a little bit too late for that people to get

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01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 1: educated before all that kind of stuff. So now if

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01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 1: you see those lights get pulled over, you can do

1967
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 1: one of two things. You can say hey, you know,

1968
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 1: you say Serie activate legal equal I said hey, Google

1969
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 1: activate legal openly the helpen up that you can do

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01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 1: it by voice, or you can just open up with

1971
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Speaker 1: your hands. So the app now opens up within two seconds.

1972
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 1: You can hit that. But that says I need help

1973
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 1: for and the list comes out and says I need

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01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: helpful police stop, general, emergency, domestic violence, situation, immigration, ice,

1975
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 1: active shooter. So you put I need help for police

1976
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 1: stop and you hit that set and it says those

1977
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,679
Speaker 1: people that Texas says, hey, I've been stopped by the police.

1978
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 1: My location is and it gives me your exact location.

1979
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,679
Speaker 1: If you don't hear from me in the next thirty minutes,

1980
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 1: police call the police department this area and also has

1981
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 1: a Google pinpoint now there, so within five seconds, those

1982
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 1: people already have that text message, No you've been stopped.

1983
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Now you don't have whatever your choice is. Next, you

1984
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 1: can either now choose to record that encounter and we're

1985
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 1: gonna have that recording saved onto the phone, or what

1986
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: we're having in this new release which we've been testing

1987
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: out this morning and this past week, you can now

1988
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: hit a live video option and those people are gonna

1989
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 1: gonna notification you have a live video, and just like

1990
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 1: we're talking now, by the time that police caught that

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01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: police obviously comes to your door, you're gonna have those

1992
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:57,560
Speaker 1: people on your phone looking right back at them, and

1993
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 1: the office is gonna be able to see them. So

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01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like you have eyewitnesses and they can

1995
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:05,480
Speaker 1: record that encounter in real time and a few months

1996
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 1: and then a few months what we're about to do,

1997
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: it's we're about to then have it where you can

1998
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: then find an attorney in that area and pay an

1999
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: attorney what would be a fraction of the cost or

2000
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 1: cheaper than your ticket, and have the attorney been joined

2001
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 1: that call in real time and listen to why you

2002
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 1: gotta stopped, and tell you what to do and give

2003
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 1: you that real time legal advice. And so that's how

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01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 1: the app works. Very simple. All that can be done

2005
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:30,560
Speaker 1: within seconds and you just be chilling to wait for

2006
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 1: the officer to come to your door. Well, I I

2007
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 1: love the fact that, first of all, using your voice,

2008
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: because that's what I do when I get my vehic car,

2009
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 1: I'd say navigate to or call somebody. That really simplifies

2010
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: the process for sure. And so but when you when

2011
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: you develop something like this, were there naysayers that job?

2012
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 1: They really came into your lane of going. First of all,

2013
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 1: you go, you got this, why the big y? Then

2014
01:43:57,080 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 1: you got this that's unnecessary? And that, Okay, who are you?

2015
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:03,640
Speaker 1: You've never done anything like that? Were those sort of the

2016
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 1: the statements that came your way by when you were

2017
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: trying to put together the legal equalizer? Um, it was

2018
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:13,520
Speaker 1: the it was that you know, I'm being anti police. Um,

2019
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 1: it was you know, you don't know what you're doing.

2020
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer. So I was like, you don't

2021
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 1: know the law, you don't know any of that stuff.

2022
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 1: Why would use this? Why can't I do that? Well,

2023
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 1: the officers might shoot somebody pleasing your app And so

2024
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 1: I just have to talk people through common sense, right,

2025
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 1: and I tell them if if somebody has my the

2026
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: phone out and then have it out, you think the

2027
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: officers gonna shoot them cause they have my app open.

2028
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not the issue. Also shooting somebody

2029
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: because of their phone. We have a big that whatever's

2030
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 1: on the phone, and we need to go back to

2031
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 1: that root cause. So yeah, So it's been you know,

2032
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 1: and like I said, when I started, I don't know

2033
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 1: how to code. Still I don't know how to code.

2034
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 1: I don't know how to build. I had to ask people,

2035
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 1: and my whole time, I've had nothing but black coodas

2036
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 1: as well to come help build me with this. So

2037
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 1: I used to work at Apple the you know, in

2038
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 1: the store, the business team making sales. So when I

2039
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 1: got done, I was like somebody in the store. I

2040
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: got to know somebody that can code. So I asked

2041
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 1: them and I had somebody to build my very first

2042
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 1: version of that act and we need to upgrade that.

2043
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: I had to go ask somebody else, and I knew

2044
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 1: in tech in Atlanta. Was like, hey, Rodney, can you

2045
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 1: find me somebody that can code because my old coder

2046
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 1: can't do the things I need to get done. And

2047
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 1: now we have somebody that's been here for three or

2048
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 1: four years and knows what to dude, knows the vision

2049
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: and can code and build our stuff out as well.

2050
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 1: Here's interesting thing, because you know you need help from

2051
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 1: the community, you need help from the society, and you

2052
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 1: definitely need help from politicians when you're trying to do

2053
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 1: anything like this because some people couldn't throw the word controversial,

2054
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:45,799
Speaker 1: put the word council culture. Uh claim that you anti blue,

2055
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: you are you want to defund the police. But one

2056
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: are some of the things. Are three things at least

2057
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 1: at the community to society in general can do, especially

2058
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 1: positive politicians can do to help you address the root

2059
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,640
Speaker 1: of the problems that you're trying to solve. With the

2060
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 1: legal equalizer, Um, well, politicians can do a lot to

2061
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 1: start with. For one, I completely disagree with qualified immunity.

2062
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: I think they need to get rid of that because,

2063
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 1: like I got tell a police officer, if you're a

2064
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 1: good police officer, you're doing your job, you ain't gotta

2065
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 1: worry about geting suit. But right now, they can beat

2066
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 1: you up, they can shoot you, they can stab you,

2067
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 1: they can do whatever to you, and technically you cannot

2068
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,719
Speaker 1: sue that in with your officer just because of that job.

2069
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 1: So I asked them all the time, would you go

2070
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: to a doctor that can just do whatever, and you

2071
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 1: can sue them. If they messed up, you probably asked why.

2072
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:35,120
Speaker 1: And so it's that same issue with qualified immunity is

2073
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 1: one issue I have with policing. The second issue I

2074
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 1: have the politicians I think well, and and policing is

2075
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:42,679
Speaker 1: local as well. So that's another thing we didn't talk about.

2076
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: It's not you know, federal at all that and so

2077
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 1: an the other thing we can do with policing as

2078
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: well is also in terms of the hiring and looking

2079
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 1: the quality of officers were hiring. The fact that you know,

2080
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 1: somebody can go six months of training and now be

2081
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 1: licensed to kill somebody. When you have attorneys have to

2082
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 1: go to law school, you have other people have to

2083
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 1: go to all kinds of training to get that. And

2084
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,520
Speaker 1: so personally I told police officers, if I was in charge,

2085
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 1: I would cut the police departments by a lot, but

2086
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:13,800
Speaker 1: I would pay the officers there are a lot more

2087
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 1: and I give those guys a lot more money and

2088
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,719
Speaker 1: a lot more resources because when you look at crimes

2089
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:21,680
Speaker 1: right now, they don't solve the majority of crimes. The

2090
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: most crimes go completely unsolved. When you look at how

2091
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 1: many thousands of hundreds of thousands of rape kits we

2092
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 1: have that don't keep it checked right now, so they're

2093
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 1: not worrying or healing. Murders are going unsolved, and so

2094
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 1: we're not giving them those resources. We have officers that

2095
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 1: we're paying money to just do traffic stuff, to basically

2096
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: sit down the highway and see if you're speeding and

2097
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 1: do all that stuff, rather than actually dealing with the

2098
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 1: real issues and society and stuff. Um. A third thing

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Speaker 1: I think we can do is um deal with those

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Speaker 1: police union contracts, because those contracts are what givesing that

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Speaker 1: qualified immunity. They're what gives them the right to do

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Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff. They're what like in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: until a few years ago, if the officers somebody, they

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Speaker 1: were able to sit in that grand jury room and testify,

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Speaker 1: but they couldn't even get cross examined. And so imagine

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Speaker 1: that you're sitting there, Okay, I can hear his side

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Speaker 1: of the story, I can't ask them any questions or

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Speaker 1: anything like that, which is why we didn't have many

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Speaker 1: officers even indicted. And so, and these were all deals

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Speaker 1: that were made by these unions or by these organizations

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Speaker 1: police groups that come here and they'll defend any officer

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Speaker 1: or anything wrong right or whatever, and I can keep

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Speaker 1: going like with these things. You know, another thing I

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Speaker 1: was hoping for with officers is that make the officers

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Speaker 1: live in the neighborhoods they work. Too many times we

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Speaker 1: have officers that live thirty forty five minutes away and

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Speaker 1: drive into the inner city and drive the other places

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Speaker 1: them know nobody there, and they assume things about these people,

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Speaker 1: and they use as solutions to work do that rather

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Speaker 1: than the police in their own neighborhoods, rather than knowing, hey,

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Speaker 1: that's Johnny over there. Johnny has had multiple personality disorder.

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Speaker 1: The whole neighborhood knows. Instead of coming, hey with a gun,

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Speaker 1: let's call somebody talked Johnny down and work with that.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's Gym over there. You know Jim has

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Speaker 1: a drinking problem. You know, he'll get drunk and he'll

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Speaker 1: do this. But instead of getting roughed up with Jim,

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Speaker 1: we can take it here, let him sober down. We

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Speaker 1: know that his momba lives over there, you know, we

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Speaker 1: know his dad and his girlfriend. Like. It's things like

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Speaker 1: that we can do. So it's common sense things we

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Speaker 1: can do to help improve policing and make it simpler.

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Speaker 1: But anytime you want to make those suggestions as you're

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Speaker 1: anti police, you're this and that. And even when we

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Speaker 1: talk about the defunding the police, it's not defunding the police.

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Speaker 1: I tell him, people used the wrong term there. You

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Speaker 1: just call it reallocating your money, reallocating your funds because

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Speaker 1: all that does is for instant Atlanta. If we don't

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Speaker 1: spendt of our city budget on policing, we can spend

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Speaker 1: thirty percent of our city by john police. Take that

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Speaker 1: extra ten percent, put it back in the inner city neighborhoods.

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Speaker 1: Build grocery stores there to have healthy food instead of

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Speaker 1: having junk stuff there. That gives people jobs, you know,

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Speaker 1: give people opportunities in those areas where now, okay, we

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Speaker 1: got people constructing this grocery store, we got people working

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Speaker 1: the story store. We need man just here. These kids

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Speaker 1: can come here to be cashiers. Oh now that I

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Speaker 1: out here doing the water boys stuff. They're not coming

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Speaker 1: in crimes that We've invested that money back into the community.

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Speaker 1: And now all these so called crimes that's going wild, oh,

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Speaker 1: a lot of that has been solved because the roots

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Speaker 1: now being solved. And so these are some of the

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Speaker 1: things I wish politicians and all leaders would think about

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Speaker 1: more and add that more when it comes to you know,

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Speaker 1: criminal justice, public safety. Hey, you know I got my

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Speaker 1: show is gonna go live on w c OK starting

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Speaker 1: in September seven. I want to bring you back. It's

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Speaker 1: for Atlanta because what you're talking about, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: gone beyond the legal equalizer Apple, which is a fantastic

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Speaker 1: reason I brought you on it, but the whole concept,

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Speaker 1: especially when you hit the water Boys, and that goes

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Speaker 1: into your volunteering at the homeless shelters and local churches

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Speaker 1: Project organization. I want to bring you back really talk

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Speaker 1: about that, because I think that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why I want to take my show live. I want

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Speaker 1: to be able to take phone calls. I want to

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Speaker 1: people to hear people like you have that passion. I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to turn into a militant conversation. I want

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Speaker 1: to create a conversation, and a lot of times the

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Speaker 1: conversation is not created with the right information. And that's

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Speaker 1: what angered me the most about the media to day

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Speaker 1: And the class of examples that when when Cuomo's brother

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Speaker 1: doesn't even mention him in the news and he's the

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Speaker 1: headline news every day. Okay, you mean you can pick

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Speaker 1: that you don't have to talk about your brother even

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Speaker 1: when he retired, you when he resigned, you ain't talking

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Speaker 1: general does not give us the right message. So but

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on the show

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Speaker 1: talk about the lead week with Lizer. It's a downloadable app.

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Speaker 1: Google play Store and iTunes that both free. They're both free.

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Speaker 1: Again brother, appreciate you again. I'm gonna be You'll be

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Speaker 1: hearing from again by in regards to coming back on

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Speaker 1: the show like start September seven, every Tuesday six to

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Speaker 1: a brother. I want to stay in touch with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, definitely, definitely. I appreciate you for

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