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Speaker 1: Elvis that being like, Andy, you're not using my husband

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Elvis, this is going to happen. I forgot

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Speaker 1: don't know how many days ago it was. Melissa Gorgis

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Speaker 1: So it's it's quite shocking. And oh yeah, hey Alex,

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Speaker 1: So we're watching the interview on CBS Sunday Morning, which

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Speaker 1: in a weird way. Andy, I'm so glad you came

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Speaker 1: in today. Me too, And I always read more time.

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Speaker 4: That's last question. If I download your book on audible.

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Speaker 1: narrate the Daddy Daddy Diaries. The year I grew up

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Speaker 2: We wish nothing but great things for you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Elvis, Thanks everybody, Handy Cohen.

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Speaker 2: It is the Daddy Diaries. The Year I Grew Up.

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