WEBVTT - The Season with Peter Schrager: Emptying the Combine Notebook with Mike Garafolo 0:00:07.266 --> 0:00:09.626 The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the 0:00:09.786 --> 0:00:23.746 NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, This is 0:00:23.746 --> 0:00:27.226 Peter Schrager, the host of the Season with Peter Schrager. 0:00:27.306 --> 0:00:28.786 I have fresh off the Combine. 0:00:28.786 --> 0:00:31.826 I wanted to wait this week to record our podcast 0:00:31.946 --> 0:00:35.026 till after the franchise tag deadline has arrived. It is 0:00:35.066 --> 0:00:38.826 a parent approximately four to five pm Eastern as I'm 0:00:38.866 --> 0:00:41.986 recording this, and we've got our franchise tags, so we're 0:00:42.026 --> 0:00:44.066 good to talk openly without having a foot in our 0:00:44.106 --> 0:00:46.626 mouth when we start talking about some of these contracts. 0:00:47.026 --> 0:00:49.746 My guest joining shortly is gonna be Mike Garafalo. 0:00:49.626 --> 0:00:53.066 My longtime colleague at Fox and now my longtime colleague 0:00:53.066 --> 0:00:55.426 at NFL Network, and my favorite people in the biz. 0:00:55.826 --> 0:00:58.706 We were both at Combine together. Lots of laughs, also 0:00:58.746 --> 0:01:03.226 lots of conversations. We're gonna recap all of that real quick. 0:01:03.346 --> 0:01:07.186 Some notes as I empty the notebook from Combine. Number one, 0:01:07.346 --> 0:01:10.786 Saquon Barkley becomes the highest paid running back in football today. 0:01:10.826 --> 0:01:13.426 The Eagles are smart, they take care of their guys. 0:01:13.466 --> 0:01:15.626 They do it so you're not in a bind in 0:01:15.906 --> 0:01:17.786 a year down the road, you've got a bitter player 0:01:18.186 --> 0:01:20.186 and an agent that wants to take you to the woodshed. 0:01:20.266 --> 0:01:21.746 Saquon earned every last dollar. 0:01:21.986 --> 0:01:24.186 As that, we know, the Eagles are going to have 0:01:24.226 --> 0:01:27.106 to say farewell to several top talent. I would imagine 0:01:27.386 --> 0:01:31.346 guys like Milton Williams and Josh Sweat, and we saw 0:01:31.386 --> 0:01:34.906 them cut Darius Lay and James Bradbury. I'm curious if 0:01:34.906 --> 0:01:37.386 they can bring back Zach Bond. All those guys are 0:01:37.386 --> 0:01:40.746 in limbo. Let's take care of our own and let's 0:01:41.146 --> 0:01:42.466 remain with the core. 0:01:42.786 --> 0:01:44.146 Saquon gets what he wants. 0:01:44.146 --> 0:01:47.426 He had a beautiful post thinking the Eagles organization, and 0:01:47.466 --> 0:01:50.786 there's a Heylo effect to this if you're if you're 0:01:50.786 --> 0:01:52.946 an NFL player, you see that and you're like, oh wow, 0:01:52.986 --> 0:01:54.826 they took care of him. They sign him to a 0:01:54.826 --> 0:01:58.786 blow market deal, even though it was very it was 0:01:59.266 --> 0:02:01.706 very attractive combined to compared to what the Giants were offering, 0:02:01.746 --> 0:02:03.666 but they signed him to a blow market deal. He 0:02:03.746 --> 0:02:05.546 might have taken less money than what was offered by 0:02:05.586 --> 0:02:08.826 the by the I believe the Texans are the other 0:02:08.866 --> 0:02:09.226 team that. 0:02:09.146 --> 0:02:10.306 We're in the on Saquon. 0:02:10.626 --> 0:02:13.866 Either way, you take care of him now. So he 0:02:13.906 --> 0:02:17.146 gets his contract extension, He's not going anywhere. And as 0:02:17.426 --> 0:02:21.066 certain players will be leaving the room, Saquon isn't going anywhere. 0:02:21.426 --> 0:02:22.066 Respect it. 0:02:22.146 --> 0:02:24.866 I also respect the optics right before a free agency 0:02:24.866 --> 0:02:26.586 when players are going to be leaving and Eagles fans 0:02:26.666 --> 0:02:28.506 might be freaking out, don't worry. 0:02:28.786 --> 0:02:31.066 We did what we had to do. We brought Saquon back. 0:02:31.106 --> 0:02:33.946 I would think Lane Johnson might get a similar situation 0:02:34.026 --> 0:02:35.586 in the next couple of days. Keep an eye on 0:02:35.626 --> 0:02:40.106 that one lane cornerstone piece entering a part of his 0:02:40.186 --> 0:02:43.426 contract wherever negotiations does seem to matter and seems to 0:02:43.546 --> 0:02:45.866 make a lot of sense there, so keep an eye 0:02:46.266 --> 0:02:52.226 on those. That's one note number two. The quarterback carousel 0:02:53.386 --> 0:02:59.586 really interesting conversations throughout my time in Indianapolis, and I 0:02:59.626 --> 0:03:02.746 think there are more teams that need a quarterback than 0:03:02.786 --> 0:03:07.946 there are quarterbacks available, which means in the NFL Draft 0:03:08.626 --> 0:03:10.906 you might see these guys go a little earlier than 0:03:10.946 --> 0:03:13.626 you might think they belong on a big board that's 0:03:13.666 --> 0:03:17.706 in a vacuum, meaning cam Ward could go one, Shador 0:03:17.786 --> 0:03:20.466 Sanders could go two, and they may have no right 0:03:20.746 --> 0:03:23.466 going that way if you're just looking at pure overall board, 0:03:23.466 --> 0:03:25.506 who the best players in this draft. I don't think 0:03:25.546 --> 0:03:27.906 anyone would tell you they're one and two. But based 0:03:27.946 --> 0:03:31.586 on quarterbacks going where they're going, and based on the 0:03:31.586 --> 0:03:33.706 teams at the top of the draft and the free 0:03:33.706 --> 0:03:37.226 agents available, that might be how this shakes out. Let's 0:03:37.266 --> 0:03:41.026 just do a quick game of mix and match before 0:03:41.066 --> 0:03:43.626 we even get to free agency, which starts really in 0:03:43.706 --> 0:03:46.306 Earnest on Monday. All Right, Sam Darnold doesn't get the 0:03:46.306 --> 0:03:49.906 franchise tag, right, I still think he goes back to Minnesota. 0:03:49.946 --> 0:03:51.146 That's my big swing here. 0:03:51.586 --> 0:03:55.226 I think they offer him two years, let's say seventy million, 0:03:55.706 --> 0:03:59.146 thirty five million apiece. He makes great money. It's way 0:03:59.186 --> 0:04:01.546 bigger than what he was making. And it's with those 0:04:01.586 --> 0:04:04.266 two wide receivers. It's with O'Connell, and for the next 0:04:04.346 --> 0:04:06.906 year he competes with JJ McCarthy. Then you go into 0:04:06.986 --> 0:04:10.306 another year of Okay, is McCarthy truly the guy? 0:04:10.426 --> 0:04:12.066 Is he ready to go? Or is it one of 0:04:12.066 --> 0:04:13.226 these guys's trade bait. 0:04:13.946 --> 0:04:16.826 I don't think coming off the injury McCarthy had, coming 0:04:16.906 --> 0:04:19.306 back to setback he had at one point, I don't 0:04:19.346 --> 0:04:21.266 think I'm sold on JJ McCarthy. 0:04:21.466 --> 0:04:22.146 Just taking this team. 0:04:22.186 --> 0:04:24.106 As far as Sam Donald, I think there's still more 0:04:24.506 --> 0:04:27.026 to chew on that contract, and there's still more chew 0:04:27.066 --> 0:04:29.106 on that Donald bone. Now here's the fact of the 0:04:29.106 --> 0:04:32.066 matter is, if Sam Donald doesn't play two of the 0:04:32.066 --> 0:04:34.226 worst games of his NFL career in his final two 0:04:34.266 --> 0:04:36.906 games as a Minnesota Viking last year, there is a 0:04:36.906 --> 0:04:40.106 line a mile wide and a mile long lining up 0:04:40.106 --> 0:04:43.026 for his services. But he revealed enough works in those 0:04:43.026 --> 0:04:44.826 two games where I don't think the market is there. 0:04:44.866 --> 0:04:46.826 I don't think anyone's offered him fifty million. I don't 0:04:46.826 --> 0:04:50.066 think anyone's offered him forty five million. So you take 0:04:50.306 --> 0:04:52.666 the money in hand. If Minnesota can make it work, 0:04:53.106 --> 0:04:55.986 you go back to Minnesota, you compete with JJ McCarthy 0:04:55.986 --> 0:04:58.426 for that starting job, you beat out JJ McCarthy, you 0:04:58.426 --> 0:05:01.826 have another sensational season, and then you hit free agency again, 0:05:02.026 --> 0:05:04.306 or you get traded and you get a new contract 0:05:04.306 --> 0:05:06.986 out of that deal. So that's Donald. Then there's a 0:05:07.106 --> 0:05:10.186 giant gap between what's next. That's why Aaron Rodgers is 0:05:10.226 --> 0:05:12.266 getting talked about for the Raiders and Giants, like where 0:05:12.266 --> 0:05:14.946 else are you going to go? Justin Fields is probably 0:05:14.986 --> 0:05:18.506 the next name that's got a market. I think Steelers 0:05:18.506 --> 0:05:20.426 and Jets are both going to be very interested in 0:05:20.666 --> 0:05:24.626 Justin Fields. I mean, he didn't beat out Russell Wilson 0:05:24.666 --> 0:05:26.586 this year. Is that the most viable I don't know. 0:05:26.666 --> 0:05:30.306 But he's young, great kid, smart as hell, has n't 0:05:30.346 --> 0:05:32.506 complained one bit his entire career, whether he was in 0:05:32.586 --> 0:05:35.706 Chicago or Pittsburgh and got benched last year. Justin Field 0:05:35.746 --> 0:05:37.346 is going to be an NFL starter next year. Now 0:05:37.426 --> 0:05:39.906 is it Pittsburgh or the Jets. We'll see what happens there. 0:05:40.306 --> 0:05:42.946 Now you're ticking off teams and you still have a giant, 0:05:43.026 --> 0:05:49.546 gaping hole at quarterback for Minnesota, for Cleveland, for the Giants, 0:05:50.346 --> 0:05:53.186 for the Jets, for the Raiders. 0:05:53.986 --> 0:05:55.826 So you fill him out, You fill him out how 0:05:55.826 --> 0:05:57.626 you want to fill him out. And is Russell Wilson 0:05:57.666 --> 0:05:59.666 going to a team maybe? Is Kirk Cousins going to 0:05:59.746 --> 0:06:00.066 a team? 0:06:00.146 --> 0:06:00.546 Maybe? 0:06:00.906 --> 0:06:02.426 But at the end of the day, there are still 0:06:02.466 --> 0:06:05.066 too many teams that need a quarterback and not enough 0:06:05.106 --> 0:06:08.746 quarterback talent that's available and free agency or via trade 0:06:08.986 --> 0:06:10.626 that I think when it's all said and done, and 0:06:10.626 --> 0:06:11.826 I don't know who the teams are going to be, 0:06:11.826 --> 0:06:14.386 who trade up or maneuver or whatever, but I think 0:06:14.386 --> 0:06:16.986 it's a really good chance that it goes cam Ward 0:06:17.066 --> 0:06:20.466 one Shador Sanders too, and don't be shocked if Jackson 0:06:20.546 --> 0:06:23.586 Dart or Tyler Shuck or one of these other guys 0:06:23.666 --> 0:06:25.786 quinn Ewers shoots up the board a little bit and 0:06:25.826 --> 0:06:27.426 it's at the end of the first round or middle 0:06:27.426 --> 0:06:29.986 of the first round too. Plenty of more stuff I 0:06:30.026 --> 0:06:32.346 want to bring in our guests, though. Mike Garifolo is 0:06:32.346 --> 0:06:34.586 on the ground with me in Indianapolis. We're gonna get 0:06:34.626 --> 0:06:36.466 Mike in here now. We're gonna shoot it around a 0:06:36.466 --> 0:06:37.946 little bit, and then I'm gonna wrap up the pod 0:06:38.026 --> 0:06:40.106 with some more gossip and rumors I got while I was. 0:06:40.106 --> 0:06:40.946 An Indian. 0:06:51.706 --> 0:06:52.426 With no further ado. 0:06:52.506 --> 0:06:55.346 It's my favorite person in our business, a true real 0:06:55.426 --> 0:06:57.586 friend and someone I worked with at Fox for many 0:06:57.666 --> 0:07:00.266 years and then of course now at NFL Network. In 0:07:00.306 --> 0:07:02.586 an alternate world, we have the number one podcast in 0:07:02.626 --> 0:07:04.586 the universe and we're just crushing it together. 0:07:04.626 --> 0:07:06.106 Mike Garrafolo, Hello. 0:07:07.466 --> 0:07:09.466 Parallel universe. Is that what it is? Yeah? 0:07:09.626 --> 0:07:12.186 Ta alternate like, and there's still plenty of time for 0:07:12.266 --> 0:07:15.666 us to eventually just just run this universe. Eventually, it 0:07:15.666 --> 0:07:17.746 could be it's like, I feel like we're thumbling, Louise 0:07:17.866 --> 0:07:18.386 just in the car. 0:07:18.586 --> 0:07:19.946 Just let's just hold hands and go. 0:07:20.666 --> 0:07:21.066 All right. 0:07:21.106 --> 0:07:22.826 So the Rappaport Schultz. 0:07:22.506 --> 0:07:24.466 Thing, I'm not going to get into Jordan Schultzen who 0:07:24.466 --> 0:07:26.306 he is or Ian Rappaport and what he's all about. 0:07:26.346 --> 0:07:29.946 But they have their conflict, but to go behind behind 0:07:29.986 --> 0:07:33.986 the scenes as PFT commenter and Mike Florio write up 0:07:33.986 --> 0:07:37.826 these odes and these explanations, how I found out was 0:07:38.426 --> 0:07:41.466 a text chain of separate NFL people that you're included 0:07:41.506 --> 0:07:45.466 on and just hilarity insuing with jokes and memes. 0:07:45.866 --> 0:07:48.146 You were there that day, What do you want to share? 0:07:48.986 --> 0:07:50.946 So I'll cop to the picture that was my picture 0:07:50.946 --> 0:07:53.026 that I took. Now, I didn't leak the picture. Okay. 0:07:53.066 --> 0:07:53.986 If I did leak the. 0:07:53.906 --> 0:07:55.946 Picture, TMZ would have had it and I would have 0:07:55.946 --> 0:07:57.746 had ten grand in my pocket, which is probably what 0:07:57.786 --> 0:07:58.426 I should have done. 0:07:58.546 --> 0:08:01.826 Did TMC run the picture of Schultz hulking over. 0:08:01.866 --> 0:08:05.186 Rappaport, I don't know, but they wrote a story on it, 0:08:05.226 --> 0:08:06.626 so you know, if they wrote a story on it, 0:08:06.706 --> 0:08:07.466 they think it's news. 0:08:07.626 --> 0:08:09.106 And if they think it's news, they would have loved 0:08:09.106 --> 0:08:12.226 the visual. So way to go. Dummy could have made 0:08:12.426 --> 0:08:13.786 you know on this one. 0:08:15.506 --> 0:08:18.706 But here's here's how I, like, I can cop to 0:08:18.746 --> 0:08:19.986 this and tell you that I took it, but I 0:08:19.986 --> 0:08:22.466 didn't leak it because I was actually sending that picture 0:08:22.546 --> 0:08:23.026 live right. 0:08:23.066 --> 0:08:23.946 I was like, Hey, look. 0:08:23.826 --> 0:08:27.266 Who's having a chat and it's like giggling, like these 0:08:27.266 --> 0:08:29.786 two are finally because we know that behind the scenes 0:08:29.786 --> 0:08:32.066 there has been enough little like pissing match on Twitter. 0:08:32.146 --> 0:08:35.466 Yeah, yeah, there's there's there's always that. I'll link and 0:08:35.506 --> 0:08:39.386 get into the details of that. But it quickly I 0:08:39.426 --> 0:08:41.866 realized it was not as cordial as I thought it was. 0:08:42.146 --> 0:08:43.786 But by that point I had already sent the picture 0:08:43.786 --> 0:08:46.266 out to like five people, which one of them actually 0:08:46.306 --> 0:08:47.386 brought it back on a group chain. 0:08:47.426 --> 0:08:49.066 It was like who leaked the picture? And I was like, 0:08:49.346 --> 0:08:50.226 why is that guy here? 0:08:50.266 --> 0:08:51.746 I didn't send it to him, And the other person 0:08:51.826 --> 0:08:55.106 was like, oh, so now there's a whole different you 0:08:55.146 --> 0:08:58.706 knowin that it may have tested the photo off of Yeah, 0:08:58.746 --> 0:09:01.786 it's like it's like Doc Brown explaining the alternate nineteen 0:09:01.826 --> 0:09:03.626 eighty five and back to the future, where it just. 0:09:03.546 --> 0:09:06.786 Breaks off this way. I stopped taking pictures once. 0:09:06.626 --> 0:09:10.666 I realized it was a It was more adversarial than 0:09:10.666 --> 0:09:14.466 I thought. And uh, you know, at some point you 0:09:14.466 --> 0:09:16.706 want to let your friend, he's an adult, handle his business. 0:09:16.746 --> 0:09:19.786 But I was nearby. Should intervention be needed? And that 0:09:19.866 --> 0:09:24.586 should some protection be needed? So they finished their conversation 0:09:24.986 --> 0:09:31.786 and internet lore. Next, Oh here comes uh Brian McCarthy, 0:09:31.866 --> 0:09:33.866 NFL PR guy introducing. 0:09:33.386 --> 0:09:36.266 Me to UH is Justin? Was his name Justin? He's 0:09:36.266 --> 0:09:38.946 with NFL Security. I said over there, all right, I'm 0:09:38.946 --> 0:09:39.626 real quick. 0:09:39.546 --> 0:09:43.066 That happened to disclose the loop on it because the 0:09:43.066 --> 0:09:44.026 story has passed. 0:09:44.306 --> 0:09:47.666 Yeah, it's funny because you know, we love we love 0:09:47.746 --> 0:09:51.906 this media on media, like when I see as as 0:09:51.906 --> 0:09:53.626 annoying when you're in the middle of it, and we've 0:09:53.626 --> 0:09:55.346 been in the middle of it with other reporters, like 0:09:55.386 --> 0:09:57.666 you hate it and it's everything, but like from Afar, 0:09:57.706 --> 0:10:00.386 when it doesn't involve you, it's kind of funny. It's 0:10:00.386 --> 0:10:02.906 just ridiculous. The fact that it happened in front of 0:10:02.906 --> 0:10:05.786 a Starbucks. And I said this on Bill Simmons podcast today, 0:10:06.706 --> 0:10:07.146 J W. 0:10:07.386 --> 0:10:10.706 Marriott. Starbucks to me is the hell spot. It's like 0:10:10.826 --> 0:10:12.146 it's like Sodom and Gomorrah. 0:10:12.306 --> 0:10:14.666 It is like the it is like first and first, 0:10:14.746 --> 0:10:17.306 like on Seinfeld or like really it's like times square, 0:10:17.386 --> 0:10:19.426 it is. And for that to go down there, there 0:10:19.506 --> 0:10:22.186 is probably one hundred people in the vicinity when that happened. 0:10:22.866 --> 0:10:23.986 Oh there was a lot. Yeah. 0:10:24.066 --> 0:10:26.746 I don't know how many solid or knew exactly who 0:10:26.826 --> 0:10:27.986 was having a conversation. 0:10:28.706 --> 0:10:31.906 There were enough, I mean when he So we came 0:10:31.946 --> 0:10:32.546 out of a meeting. 0:10:32.586 --> 0:10:34.706 It was the nfl OPS meeting and Ian had just 0:10:34.746 --> 0:10:38.106 planted himself there for an hour because that's the crossroads 0:10:38.146 --> 0:10:39.586 of everything. You get to see as many people and 0:10:39.626 --> 0:10:40.746 you get to check a bunch of boxes. 0:10:40.826 --> 0:10:44.386 And I think Sean Payton sits there from Monday to Sunday, 0:10:44.466 --> 0:10:45.826 just sits there at a table. If you want to 0:10:45.826 --> 0:10:47.986 talk to Sean Payton, just just yeah, that's it. He's 0:10:47.986 --> 0:10:49.306 always just permanently sat there. 0:10:49.386 --> 0:10:51.186 Yep, there you go. Okay, I didn't know that. 0:10:52.306 --> 0:10:54.266 So we come out of the meeting and Ian's still 0:10:54.306 --> 0:10:56.866 there and he was talking to somebody that I had. 0:10:56.986 --> 0:10:59.026 I said, well, let me, I had the fire off. 0:10:59.226 --> 0:11:01.266 Here's what came out of the nfl OPS meeting. The 0:11:01.626 --> 0:11:07.706 overtime changes, the uh virtual the chin blinding, Yeah, exactly. 0:11:07.466 --> 0:11:09.226 A chain game inside the fire. So let me just 0:11:09.266 --> 0:11:11.106 sit here and do that and then I'll you know. 0:11:11.146 --> 0:11:13.186 So I'm waiting for Ian to finish this conversation and 0:11:13.226 --> 0:11:15.306 firing this stuff off, and I look up and here 0:11:15.306 --> 0:11:18.226 comes Jordan, and I said, okay, Jordan's going for who 0:11:18.226 --> 0:11:20.906 Ian was talking to. And I said, but I don't 0:11:20.906 --> 0:11:22.386 know if he sees I in there. No, he saw 0:11:22.386 --> 0:11:24.546 he went right for He went right for him. And 0:11:24.586 --> 0:11:26.626 then whoever they were talking to peeled off and it 0:11:26.666 --> 0:11:28.546 was just the two of them and everybody's kind of around. 0:11:28.546 --> 0:11:31.346 And it didn't hit me until ten minutes later that 0:11:31.426 --> 0:11:32.786 it happened in front of a Starbucks. 0:11:32.826 --> 0:11:34.026 I actually looked at the picture and I was like, 0:11:34.826 --> 0:11:38.546 this happened in front of us with the little and 0:11:38.586 --> 0:11:40.146 I said, I gotta win a I better win a 0:11:40.146 --> 0:11:42.426 Pulitzer for this picture. I probably won't. 0:11:42.426 --> 0:11:46.786 But the logos, I know that giant. What is that logo? 0:11:46.866 --> 0:11:49.506 It's a mermaid? Like what is the Starbucks logo? Logo? 0:11:49.546 --> 0:11:50.666 It's a one? Yeah, what is it? 0:11:51.066 --> 0:11:51.506 I don't know. 0:11:51.906 --> 0:11:54.546 There's I I've definitely looked it up and I've checked 0:11:54.546 --> 0:11:57.106 it before, and it just escaped my memory and was 0:11:57.146 --> 0:11:59.906 replaced by the uh, I don't know, the the the 0:12:00.026 --> 0:12:02.066 millions per year for each. 0:12:01.986 --> 0:12:03.226 Position of the franchise tag. 0:12:03.306 --> 0:12:06.546 Probably yeah, yeah, that's in your break series. What what 0:12:06.706 --> 0:12:09.866 is the Starbucks Hold on? Let me get this here, siri? 0:12:10.386 --> 0:12:14.746 What do you say Starbucks? Oh, hey Siri, yeah, hold on, 0:12:14.906 --> 0:12:15.386 this is good. 0:12:15.386 --> 0:12:16.866 This is good radio. I'm sure a lot of people 0:12:16.906 --> 0:12:19.266 are taint the wizing here I again, help me one. 0:12:19.506 --> 0:12:22.226 It's like, hey, Siri, what is the Starbucks logo? 0:12:22.906 --> 0:12:25.466 This is like Francesa when he counts, Sally goes in 0:12:25.546 --> 0:12:29.826 a one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, nine nine. 0:12:30.066 --> 0:12:33.506 All right, what do you got Starbucks logo? 0:12:33.546 --> 0:12:35.426 Oh, it's evolved it Wait now, it takes me to 0:12:35.546 --> 0:12:37.146 like a Starbucks like pr site. 0:12:37.386 --> 0:12:39.466 This may not be worth it. Digi Insights. 0:12:39.946 --> 0:12:43.706 The Starbucks logo, the famous Siren, which of course from 0:12:43.746 --> 0:12:46.626 Greek mythology, is a female who sings and lures you 0:12:46.706 --> 0:12:50.346 in Itit's seeductively at the center of the Starbucks cup, 0:12:50.386 --> 0:12:53.026 defines the brand. Today, the Starbucks logo is synonymous with 0:12:53.026 --> 0:12:55.946 more than tasty coffee. It's about the entire experience of 0:12:55.986 --> 0:12:58.106 getting one and drinking one. When someone walks by with 0:12:58.146 --> 0:13:01.346 that logo on a Starbucks cup, there are associations made 0:13:01.346 --> 0:13:05.146 around people's backgrounds and lifestyles. There's something mysterious and yet 0:13:05.186 --> 0:13:08.306 simple in the sirens face. She lures millions of coffee 0:13:08.306 --> 0:13:09.826 lovers into Starbucks. 0:13:10.186 --> 0:13:12.666 Wow. Yeah, Wow. 0:13:12.746 --> 0:13:16.186 The allure of caffeine is that siren is singing. 0:13:16.986 --> 0:13:19.306 Discus could not resist the siren song. 0:13:19.586 --> 0:13:22.106 Now, traditional traditional. 0:13:23.266 --> 0:13:28.426 Seattle natives and longstanding Seattle residents and natives tell me 0:13:28.466 --> 0:13:29.666 that they don't drink Starbucks. 0:13:29.746 --> 0:13:34.066 No, Well, the same apparently moved the SuperSonics to Oklahoma City, 0:13:34.266 --> 0:13:37.866 so I don't think they've built about that. They had 0:13:37.946 --> 0:13:40.746 Kevin Durant for a hot minute, then before we know it, 0:13:40.986 --> 0:13:42.106 that's that time. 0:13:42.826 --> 0:13:43.906 So that was the rappaport. 0:13:44.026 --> 0:13:46.026 And then I told Ian, I'm like, dude, there's a 0:13:46.066 --> 0:13:47.466 lot of ways you could play this, And I think 0:13:47.546 --> 0:13:49.386 Ian kind of played it right where he was like 0:13:49.546 --> 0:13:51.586 tongue in cheek fun about it, but also wasn't looking 0:13:51.586 --> 0:13:53.586 to have it. And then like the rest of like 0:13:53.706 --> 0:13:55.426 McAfee and eyes and they were just hammering it, and 0:13:55.426 --> 0:13:56.746 then it got kind of played out, and I was like, 0:13:56.746 --> 0:13:58.746 all right, the story's over. But there was a window 0:13:58.826 --> 0:14:01.866 in time where Ian could have leveraged that into a 0:14:01.946 --> 0:14:04.186 dunkin Donuts play. He could have leveraged that into a 0:14:04.186 --> 0:14:06.746 coffee bean play. He could have done a lot of things, 0:14:06.746 --> 0:14:08.466 and I think he might have missed the boat, but 0:14:08.506 --> 0:14:10.146 it's probably better off long term. You don't want to 0:14:10.186 --> 0:14:13.666 capitalize on being in an altercation or verbally accosted at 0:14:13.666 --> 0:14:14.386 the combine. Right. 0:14:14.386 --> 0:14:15.826 Well, the next day he was. 0:14:17.386 --> 0:14:23.346 Talking about duncan on on the Maxazine show, and. 0:14:21.786 --> 0:14:23.506 Look what I'm getting, ironically. 0:14:24.586 --> 0:14:27.066 Giving it away for free. I was like, that's unlike Ian. 0:14:27.666 --> 0:14:28.706 Why would he do that? Right? 0:14:29.026 --> 0:14:30.146 I think there was a play. 0:14:30.426 --> 0:14:32.266 Maybe he was laying the groundwork. You know, you give 0:14:32.306 --> 0:14:33.786 him a little bit and you hope for a lot 0:14:33.826 --> 0:14:36.586 more in return. That would be amazing if he gets 0:14:36.586 --> 0:14:38.786 on that deal and unveils it, let's say at the draft. 0:14:38.866 --> 0:14:40.706 There's time to get that done before that. It would 0:14:40.706 --> 0:14:43.146 be amazing, a huge all right. 0:14:43.186 --> 0:14:46.026 So I started off this thing in an monologue just 0:14:46.066 --> 0:14:48.226 talking about how I think there's a lot of teams 0:14:48.266 --> 0:14:51.386 that need quarterbacks and there might not be enough quarterbacks available, 0:14:51.426 --> 0:14:53.946 which means come the draft as much as we want to, 0:14:54.146 --> 0:14:56.426 you know, talk about Shador slipping out of the first 0:14:56.426 --> 0:14:57.946 and all of a sudden, like you know, what happens, 0:14:57.986 --> 0:14:59.706 They all get bumped up and we'll see where we 0:14:59.786 --> 0:15:02.146 land out as we head to free agency. I'm going 0:15:02.186 --> 0:15:04.066 to throw out a couple of names for you and 0:15:04.226 --> 0:15:09.066 just give me your armchair quarter slash insider read on 0:15:09.146 --> 0:15:12.386 how these situations could go down and really some fun 0:15:12.426 --> 0:15:14.266 stuff about like we'll just banner back and forth on 0:15:14.386 --> 0:15:16.506 like how the situation could play out. So the first name, 0:15:16.826 --> 0:15:19.586 first name is Donald, and I think going back to 0:15:19.626 --> 0:15:23.746 the Vikings on a small lure, not a huge ever, 0:15:23.906 --> 0:15:26.026 like makes sense for both sides. But is there a 0:15:26.346 --> 0:15:28.866 stalking horse that might blow Donald away? Or is there 0:15:28.906 --> 0:15:30.946 a chance where Donald actually does get that fifty million 0:15:30.986 --> 0:15:32.186 dollar contract somewhere? 0:15:32.466 --> 0:15:35.346 I know that the Vikings not tag. They were asking 0:15:35.466 --> 0:15:37.306 questions back at the Senior Ball. Was like, hey, the 0:15:37.386 --> 0:15:39.546 Vikings are asking you know, what do you hearing about 0:15:39.586 --> 0:15:41.226 Donald out there? They wanted to know if there was 0:15:41.266 --> 0:15:42.466 a team that was gonna. 0:15:42.266 --> 0:15:44.266 And they never really truly wouldn't know. It would be 0:15:44.266 --> 0:15:45.186 more of a leap of faith. 0:15:45.226 --> 0:15:48.306 But yeah, in their mind the number at forty to 0:15:48.346 --> 0:15:50.226 tag him was too high and he wasn't going to 0:15:50.306 --> 0:15:52.106 get there. And I think they're right. I mean, if 0:15:52.546 --> 0:15:56.106 Stafford had gone elsewhere and maybe that opens up the Rams, 0:15:56.146 --> 0:15:57.746 maybe that's a little bit different. But the fact that 0:15:57.786 --> 0:15:59.746 Stafford stayed put, now you're seeing some of these other 0:15:59.786 --> 0:16:02.626 guys potentially stay put and don't. 0:16:02.666 --> 0:16:04.026 I don't know that Vegas is that. 0:16:04.106 --> 0:16:06.826 High on on Sam Donald, which would be the other 0:16:06.866 --> 0:16:09.266 place that he could potentially go to. Then going back 0:16:09.266 --> 0:16:10.986 to New York if he goes to the Giants, I 0:16:10.986 --> 0:16:12.706 mean obviously not the Jets. I mean, my my fever 0:16:12.826 --> 0:16:14.066 dream was he would go to the Jets. 0:16:14.106 --> 0:16:15.826 Would just be awesome. I would just love to just 0:16:15.866 --> 0:16:17.866 see it. But there's no way he was he was 0:16:17.906 --> 0:16:18.466 gonna go back. 0:16:18.626 --> 0:16:22.546 And then in the end, the Vikings understand that Darnold 0:16:22.546 --> 0:16:24.706 knows what the best situation is for him. It's the 0:16:24.746 --> 0:16:29.906 one that every other quarterback wants right now, Addison Jefferson 0:16:29.946 --> 0:16:31.666 and Kevin O'Connell calling the shots like that. 0:16:31.746 --> 0:16:33.666 So the question is, you know, how big of a 0:16:33.706 --> 0:16:34.466 cut do you take? 0:16:34.706 --> 0:16:36.426 And I think we all in our minds were thinking, well, 0:16:36.426 --> 0:16:37.386 he's going to be in the forties. 0:16:37.386 --> 0:16:38.506 I don't know that he's gonna get there. 0:16:38.746 --> 0:16:43.146 No, certainly, yeah, right like thirty to forty. 0:16:43.426 --> 0:16:45.226 So now you're to the point where it's like, all right, look, 0:16:45.266 --> 0:16:48.586 we understand and you understand that we want to be here. 0:16:49.306 --> 0:16:50.306 How do we make this fair? 0:16:50.586 --> 0:16:50.786 Right? 0:16:50.866 --> 0:16:52.306 I mean I go back. There was a couple of 0:16:52.346 --> 0:16:52.826 years ago. 0:16:52.746 --> 0:16:54.666 Nick Foles, after the Super Bowl with the Eagles, signed 0:16:54.666 --> 0:16:57.026 with the Jaguars for twenty two, which is a big 0:16:57.106 --> 0:16:59.026 number at the time. The time, it was huge, and 0:16:59.066 --> 0:17:01.826 they were really sort of bidding against themselves, right, there 0:17:01.866 --> 0:17:02.786 was nobody else out there. 0:17:02.786 --> 0:17:05.306 But it's like, you can't sign a quarterback for at. 0:17:05.186 --> 0:17:07.506 The time, I don't know, fifteen and then say oh, 0:17:07.506 --> 0:17:08.946 here's our new franchise quarterback. 0:17:09.026 --> 0:17:11.746 Yeah, he had to make it respectable. Right, there's a 0:17:11.746 --> 0:17:12.426 great analogy. 0:17:12.506 --> 0:17:13.706 I remember that whole situation. 0:17:13.826 --> 0:17:15.746 It was like we had to pay him that because 0:17:15.786 --> 0:17:17.146