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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, This is

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Speaker 1: Peter Schrager, the host of the Season with Peter Schrager.

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Speaker 2: I have fresh off the Combine.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to wait this week to record our podcast

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Speaker 1: till after the franchise tag deadline has arrived. It is

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Speaker 1: a parent approximately four to five pm Eastern as I'm

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Speaker 1: recording this, and we've got our franchise tags, so we're

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Speaker 1: good to talk openly without having a foot in our

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Speaker 1: mouth when we start talking about some of these contracts.

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Speaker 2: My guest joining shortly is gonna be Mike Garafalo.

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Speaker 1: My longtime colleague at Fox and now my longtime colleague

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Speaker 1: at NFL Network, and my favorite people in the biz.

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Speaker 1: We were both at Combine together. Lots of laughs, also

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Speaker 1: lots of conversations. We're gonna recap all of that real quick.

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Speaker 1: Some notes as I empty the notebook from Combine. Number one,

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley becomes the highest paid running back in football today.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles are smart, they take care of their guys.

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Speaker 1: They do it so you're not in a bind in

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Speaker 1: a year down the road, you've got a bitter player

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Speaker 2: Saquon earned every last dollar.

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Speaker 1: As that, we know, the Eagles are going to have

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Speaker 1: to say farewell to several top talent. I would imagine

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Speaker 1: guys like Milton Williams and Josh Sweat, and we saw

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Speaker 1: they can bring back Zach Bond. All those guys are

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Speaker 2: Saquon gets what he wants.

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Speaker 1: He had a beautiful post thinking the Eagles organization, and

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Speaker 1: there's a Heylo effect to this if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: they took care of him. They sign him to a

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Speaker 1: blow market deal, even though it was very it was

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Speaker 1: but they signed him to a blow market deal. He

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Speaker 2: We're in the on Saquon.

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Speaker 1: Either way, you take care of him now. So he

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Speaker 1: gets his contract extension, He's not going anywhere. And as

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Speaker 2: Respect it.

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Speaker 1: I also respect the optics right before a free agency

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Speaker 2: We did what we had to do. We brought Saquon back.

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Speaker 1: I would think Lane Johnson might get a similar situation

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Speaker 1: that one lane cornerstone piece entering a part of his

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Speaker 1: on those. That's one note number two. The quarterback carousel

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Speaker 1: really interesting conversations throughout my time in Indianapolis, and I

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Speaker 1: going that way if you're just looking at pure overall board,

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Speaker 1: who the best players in this draft. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Earnest on Monday. All Right, Sam Darnold doesn't get the

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Speaker 2: That's my big swing here.

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Speaker 1: I think they offer him two years, let's say seventy million,

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Speaker 1: thirty five million apiece. He makes great money. It's way

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Speaker 1: I don't think coming off the injury McCarthy had, coming

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Speaker 1: As far as Sam Donald, I think there's still more

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Speaker 1: the money in hand. If Minnesota can make it work,

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Speaker 1: Now you're ticking off teams and you still have a giant,

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Speaker 1: want to bring in our guests, though. Mike Garifolo is

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Speaker 1: Mike in here now. We're gonna shoot it around a

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Speaker 4: An Indian.

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Speaker 2: With no further ado.

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Speaker 1: It's my favorite person in our business, a true real

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Speaker 1: friend and someone I worked with at Fox for many

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Speaker 1: years and then of course now at NFL Network. In

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Speaker 3: Parallel universe. Is that what it is? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Ta alternate like, and there's still plenty of time for

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Speaker 1: us to eventually just just run this universe. Eventually, it

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Speaker 1: could be it's like, I feel like we're thumbling, Louise

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Speaker 2: Just let's just hold hands and go.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: So the Rappaport Schultz.

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Speaker 1: Thing, I'm not going to get into Jordan Schultzen who

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Speaker 1: But they have their conflict, but to go behind behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes as PFT commenter and Mike Florio write up

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Speaker 1: these odes and these explanations, how I found out was

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Speaker 2: You were there that day, What do you want to share?

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Speaker 3: So I'll cop to the picture that was my picture

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Speaker 3: that I took. Now, I didn't leak the picture. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Picture, TMZ would have had it and I would have

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Speaker 4: Rappaport, I don't know, but they wrote a story on it,

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Speaker 3: And if they think it's news, they would have loved

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Speaker 4: I didn't send it to him, And the other person

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Speaker 4: it's like it's like Doc Brown explaining the alternate nineteen

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Speaker 4: But I was nearby. Should intervention be needed? And that

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Speaker 4: and internet lore. Next, Oh here comes uh Brian McCarthy,

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Speaker 4: NFL PR guy introducing.

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Speaker 3: Me to UH is Justin? Was his name Justin? He's

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Speaker 3: with NFL Security. I said over there, all right, I'm

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Speaker 2: That happened to disclose the loop on it because the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because you know, we love we love

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Speaker 4: It was the nfl OPS meeting and Ian had just

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Speaker 2: This is good radio. I'm sure a lot of people

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Speaker 3: It's like, hey, Siri, what is the Starbucks logo?

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Speaker 4: This is like Francesa when he counts, Sally goes in

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Speaker 2: All right, what do you got Starbucks logo?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's evolved it Wait now, it takes me to

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Speaker 2: This may not be worth it. Digi Insights.

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Speaker 1: The Starbucks logo, the famous Siren, which of course from

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Speaker 1: The allure of caffeine is that siren is singing.

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Speaker 3: Now, traditional traditional.

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Speaker 1: And then I told Ian, I'm like, dude, there's a

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Speaker 3: And they never really truly wouldn't know. It would be

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Speaker 4: And then in the end, the Vikings understand that Darnold

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Speaker 4: And I think we all in our minds were thinking, well,

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Speaker 2: I remember that whole situation.

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Speaker 3: Now, Donald would be an extension.

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Speaker 3: End was an aberration.

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Speaker 4: Right now, I can't play consistently through the end of

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Speaker 3: Next year, because there's not there's not a lot of

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Speaker 2: We'll get through it.

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Speaker 1: But like here's my yeah, all right, So those two

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Speaker 3: What was it before, you're my it was fifty before

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's an element of that.

437
00:18:33,266 --> 00:18:35,426
Speaker 4: I also believe that maybe he played at least for

438
00:18:35,466 --> 00:18:38,186
Speaker 4: a period of time last year above their expectations.

439
00:18:38,266 --> 00:18:39,986
Speaker 3: Donald, that is right, and so.

440
00:18:41,426 --> 00:18:43,706
Speaker 4: You want to sort of run that back because if

441
00:18:43,786 --> 00:18:46,066
Speaker 4: McCarthy doesn't beat him out, Right, if you bring him

442
00:18:46,066 --> 00:18:47,306
Speaker 4: back and he doesn't beat him out, and if you're

443
00:18:47,306 --> 00:18:48,706
Speaker 4: paying him thirty million, it's gonna be tough.

444
00:18:48,706 --> 00:18:50,226
Speaker 3: Like the tie is going to go to Sun Donald

445
00:18:50,306 --> 00:18:50,946
Speaker 3: in that situation.

446
00:18:51,826 --> 00:18:54,146
Speaker 4: But if McCarthy doesn't beat him out, you want to

447
00:18:54,146 --> 00:18:55,906
Speaker 4: make sure you have the best possible solution at the

448
00:18:55,986 --> 00:18:58,306
Speaker 4: quarterback position. So it's a delicate balance, right, Like you're

449
00:18:58,346 --> 00:19:00,906
Speaker 4: still sort of committed to McCarthy, and I know that

450
00:19:01,706 --> 00:19:05,106
Speaker 4: Quacy Adolpha Mensa really was looking forward to let's get

451
00:19:05,146 --> 00:19:07,706
Speaker 4: a good quarterback on a rook deal, which allows us

452
00:19:07,706 --> 00:19:10,626
Speaker 4: the flexibility to spend elsewhere. Well, that sort of went

453
00:19:10,626 --> 00:19:12,506
Speaker 4: out the window when he didn't play his rookie year

454
00:19:12,666 --> 00:19:15,626
Speaker 4: because now let's say he plays next year for this

455
00:19:15,746 --> 00:19:17,626
Speaker 4: upcoming season and he plays the year after day, you're

456
00:19:17,626 --> 00:19:19,666
Speaker 4: only getting two years at that point because he didn't

457
00:19:19,666 --> 00:19:22,946
Speaker 4: won an extension at that point, So that window sort

458
00:19:22,986 --> 00:19:24,426
Speaker 4: of got muddled a little bit.

459
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Speaker 1: I also think you bring in Donald for whatever thirty

460
00:19:27,506 --> 00:19:30,426
Speaker 1: thirty five. Let's say that you have JJ on the

461
00:19:30,506 --> 00:19:33,546
Speaker 1: rookie deal. If they both play well, or they both

462
00:19:33,546 --> 00:19:35,426
Speaker 1: are doing well in camp, you could still trade either

463
00:19:35,466 --> 00:19:38,866
Speaker 1: one of them, Yeah, into one of these quarterback media teams.

464
00:19:38,906 --> 00:19:41,586
Speaker 1: And Donald's contract is not so prohibitive where it would

465
00:19:41,586 --> 00:19:43,186
Speaker 1: be like that's a crippling contract for a.

466
00:19:43,186 --> 00:19:43,866
Speaker 2: Team to take on.

467
00:19:44,026 --> 00:19:46,586
Speaker 4: Coincidentally, Donald could wind up being Sam Bradford who was

468
00:19:46,626 --> 00:19:49,386
Speaker 4: traded to Minnesota when Teddy Bridgewater.

469
00:19:51,306 --> 00:19:52,506
Speaker 2: Labor Day. That was it.

470
00:19:52,546 --> 00:19:56,946
Speaker 1: Philly had Wentz, Philly had who else? It was Wentz.

471
00:19:57,266 --> 00:20:02,266
Speaker 4: I know exactly who else because I know why because

472
00:20:02,546 --> 00:20:05,066
Speaker 4: they went from Wentz jumped over Chase Daniel, who had

473
00:20:05,106 --> 00:20:05,986
Speaker 4: gotten a really good deal.

474
00:20:06,426 --> 00:20:07,226
Speaker 3: I had a million is the.

475
00:20:07,226 --> 00:20:09,706
Speaker 4: Backup, and you're it's like, wait a minute, you had

476
00:20:09,706 --> 00:20:12,426
Speaker 4: Bradford for because they signed I think they signed Daniel

477
00:20:12,466 --> 00:20:14,426
Speaker 4: first and then Bradford. I forget how it was, but

478
00:20:14,426 --> 00:20:17,826
Speaker 4: it was like there's like forty seven million dollars invested

479
00:20:17,866 --> 00:20:18,146
Speaker 4: in your.

480
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Speaker 3: Quarterback, which was a ton at that time.

481
00:20:20,786 --> 00:20:23,186
Speaker 4: And then so they jumped Daniel and I remember reporting

482
00:20:23,186 --> 00:20:26,266
Speaker 4: that day that that Daniel was was pissed, right, yeah,

483
00:20:26,306 --> 00:20:28,386
Speaker 4: and Chase I got a call from his agent or whatever,

484
00:20:28,506 --> 00:20:30,226
Speaker 4: and Chase was pissed off, and I talked.

485
00:20:29,986 --> 00:20:33,706
Speaker 3: To me a lot. Do you remember was it Jeff Nally? Maybe?

486
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Speaker 2: And so guys.

487
00:20:36,546 --> 00:20:38,386
Speaker 3: So next time I'm down in the locker room, I said, hey, Chase,

488
00:20:38,386 --> 00:20:39,786
Speaker 3: can we talk? And we go outside the locker and

489
00:20:39,826 --> 00:20:41,586
Speaker 3: we talk. He's like, yeah, but you made it seem

490
00:20:41,706 --> 00:20:43,266
Speaker 3: like you know, I said, were you pissed?

491
00:20:43,266 --> 00:20:44,906
Speaker 4: He goes, yeah, it was pissed, like, you know, I

492
00:20:44,946 --> 00:20:46,226
Speaker 4: want to start, I want to be the guy.

493
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Speaker 3: And you know, I was like, well, that's all I said.

494
00:20:48,146 --> 00:20:50,066
Speaker 4: He goes, yeah, but like, you made it seem like

495
00:20:51,026 --> 00:20:52,826
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to be supportive of Carson.

496
00:20:52,866 --> 00:20:54,346
Speaker 3: I said, I didn't say that. All I said was

497
00:20:54,386 --> 00:20:56,466
Speaker 3: you were disappointed. You want to be the starter. You know,

498
00:20:56,546 --> 00:20:58,946
Speaker 3: you're a competitive guy. You should be pissed. And we

499
00:20:58,946 --> 00:21:01,386
Speaker 3: had it. We had a great conversation. And he's now

500
00:21:01,386 --> 00:21:02,866
Speaker 3: in the media and he's doing a nice job.

501
00:21:02,986 --> 00:21:05,906
Speaker 2: Yeah, so fine, all right, So that's Vikings.

502
00:21:05,946 --> 00:21:06,266
Speaker 3: All right.

503
00:21:06,506 --> 00:21:09,706
Speaker 1: The listeners on this podcast are often Jets and Giants fans.

504
00:21:09,746 --> 00:21:12,386
Speaker 2: Let's start with Giants.

505
00:21:12,506 --> 00:21:14,946
Speaker 1: Because there's been a lot of suboarding, a lot of.

506
00:21:14,866 --> 00:21:16,906
Speaker 2: Stuff that's inaccurate that's been out there.

507
00:21:16,986 --> 00:21:19,226
Speaker 1: I think you and I are both fairly plugged in

508
00:21:19,266 --> 00:21:21,666
Speaker 1: with that market and fairly plugged in with that team.

509
00:21:22,066 --> 00:21:25,186
Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of truth to they were,

510
00:21:25,506 --> 00:21:27,626
Speaker 1: you know, on the Stafford talk, there were parameters to

511
00:21:27,666 --> 00:21:30,226
Speaker 1: trades being talked about with the Rams, and then once

512
00:21:30,986 --> 00:21:33,626
Speaker 1: once Thursday hit and you know, the Rams kind of

513
00:21:34,266 --> 00:21:36,946
Speaker 1: you know, ghosted everybody and they were like, all right,

514
00:21:37,026 --> 00:21:39,906
Speaker 1: Friday morning, it's going to be Stafford talking with McVeigh.

515
00:21:39,906 --> 00:21:41,746
Speaker 1: It was a done deal. And they already had been pivoting,

516
00:21:42,106 --> 00:21:43,986
Speaker 1: so they weren't left at the altar. They were just

517
00:21:44,026 --> 00:21:47,946
Speaker 1: engaging and everything. What leaves them now is the third pick,

518
00:21:47,986 --> 00:21:50,946
Speaker 1: which means they can't just sit there and get cam

519
00:21:51,026 --> 00:21:55,186
Speaker 1: Ward and talk of Rogers, which from what I gather,

520
00:21:55,666 --> 00:21:58,506
Speaker 1: isn't out of pocket and is also a very real

521
00:21:58,546 --> 00:22:02,106
Speaker 1: possibility considering what the number might be and the thought

522
00:22:02,146 --> 00:22:04,426
Speaker 1: that he wasn't so bad last year. Teammates like him,

523
00:22:04,466 --> 00:22:07,066
Speaker 1: and he and Dable kind of with a chip on

524
00:22:07,106 --> 00:22:07,906
Speaker 1: both of their shoulders.

525
00:22:07,906 --> 00:22:09,906
Speaker 2: This year, let's team up and let's let's do this

526
00:22:09,906 --> 00:22:10,426
Speaker 2: thing together.

527
00:22:10,986 --> 00:22:12,546
Speaker 3: He's one of the best options out there.

528
00:22:12,546 --> 00:22:13,906
Speaker 4: I mean, I know he was in a great season

529
00:22:13,946 --> 00:22:16,066
Speaker 4: with the chance, but look around, it's not a great,

530
00:22:16,426 --> 00:22:18,946
Speaker 4: and it's not gonna cost you a ton of money.

531
00:22:19,266 --> 00:22:21,306
Speaker 4: He's gonna have to make a decision at this point

532
00:22:21,466 --> 00:22:25,266
Speaker 4: because we talked about, you know, him being a possibility

533
00:22:25,306 --> 00:22:27,946
Speaker 4: with the Rams, and you know, as somebody mentioned to me,

534
00:22:27,986 --> 00:22:29,586
Speaker 4: he wants to go to San Francisco. I'm like, well,

535
00:22:29,746 --> 00:22:32,866
Speaker 4: but San Francisco's paying party. That's never gonna happen. And

536
00:22:32,906 --> 00:22:34,586
Speaker 4: then somebody else said, well, you know, I know he

537
00:22:34,626 --> 00:22:37,906
Speaker 4: wants to go to Minnesota potentially if they're interested in him,

538
00:22:37,906 --> 00:22:39,466
Speaker 4: and it's like, well, it's.

539
00:22:39,306 --> 00:22:41,266
Speaker 3: Just they've got other options there.

540
00:22:41,626 --> 00:22:44,146
Speaker 4: And then it's like, well, at some point do I

541
00:22:44,226 --> 00:22:47,266
Speaker 4: want to continue playing, And if I do, it might

542
00:22:47,306 --> 00:22:49,266
Speaker 4: have to be with the Giants. He has said he's

543
00:22:49,306 --> 00:22:51,426
Speaker 4: willing to mentor a young guy. He did that with

544
00:22:51,506 --> 00:22:53,466
Speaker 4: Zach Wilsoner tried to do that with Zach did so

545
00:22:53,826 --> 00:22:55,906
Speaker 4: he is open to doing that. It's not like he's

546
00:22:55,906 --> 00:22:57,826
Speaker 4: some kind of selfish guy who's not going to help out.

547
00:22:58,506 --> 00:23:00,386
Speaker 4: I don't know if he has any relationship with cam Ward,

548
00:23:00,386 --> 00:23:01,986
Speaker 4: what he thinks of him or anything of that stuff.

549
00:23:02,026 --> 00:23:03,306
Speaker 4: He's just gonna have to get to a point where

550
00:23:03,306 --> 00:23:04,666
Speaker 4: he goes, you know what, am I willing to go

551
00:23:04,706 --> 00:23:06,346
Speaker 4: back into the New York market. Am I willing to

552
00:23:06,466 --> 00:23:09,546
Speaker 4: play with a team that you know, are we picking

553
00:23:09,586 --> 00:23:11,546
Speaker 4: the Giants to win the Super Bowl? Peter Schrager, who's

554
00:23:11,546 --> 00:23:13,186
Speaker 4: done a great job of picking the Super Bowl winner?

555
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Speaker 1: Probably Also I also picked Rogers to.

556
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Speaker 2: The m v P and win the AC.

557
00:23:19,386 --> 00:23:22,346
Speaker 3: I was I was optimistic that he was gonna bounce better.

558
00:23:22,386 --> 00:23:26,266
Speaker 4: He was banged up also early in the foot. Yeah,

559
00:23:26,306 --> 00:23:29,226
Speaker 4: so you know, I know, I know. It's it's an

560
00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:32,626
Speaker 4: option there. I got to see if if Aaron's willing

561
00:23:32,666 --> 00:23:34,546
Speaker 4: to make. That's the part I can't really put in

562
00:23:34,586 --> 00:23:36,746
Speaker 4: the place right now, is if he's willing to go

563
00:23:36,826 --> 00:23:40,266
Speaker 4: there and to play. And even if you do, you

564
00:23:40,306 --> 00:23:41,706
Speaker 4: got to do something in this draft. I mean, you

565
00:23:41,746 --> 00:23:44,586
Speaker 4: need your quarterback of the future. It sucks that you

566
00:23:44,626 --> 00:23:48,426
Speaker 4: lost to the Colts, right, it sucks. It can't looks

567
00:23:48,466 --> 00:23:50,626
Speaker 4: like win that game. Excuse me, it was a loss

568
00:23:50,786 --> 00:23:52,266
Speaker 4: in the draft order, but it's a win. You can't

569
00:23:52,306 --> 00:23:53,746
Speaker 4: win that game. You just can't win that game.

570
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Speaker 2: The Lak Neighbors is going to the Hall of Fame

571
00:23:55,586 --> 00:23:56,266
Speaker 2: after that game.

572
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Speaker 4: I mean, and I would say, because John Maer always

573
00:23:58,746 --> 00:24:01,386
Speaker 4: wants to win, he's anti tanking, but I would say

574
00:24:01,426 --> 00:24:03,786
Speaker 4: if John Mara had told Brian Dable and Joe Shane

575
00:24:03,826 --> 00:24:05,226
Speaker 4: before that game that you guys are going to be

576
00:24:05,226 --> 00:24:08,626
Speaker 4: safe no matter what, maybe a different outcomeing.

577
00:24:08,666 --> 00:24:13,306
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, all right, so Rogers and then maybe

578
00:24:13,346 --> 00:24:17,266
Speaker 1: schaudor at three if he's there, or you trade back

579
00:24:17,346 --> 00:24:20,226
Speaker 1: and you get Jackson Dart or you yeah, or you

580
00:24:20,266 --> 00:24:23,706
Speaker 1: wait for Tyler Shuck in the second round. Trinee wers,

581
00:24:23,706 --> 00:24:26,986
Speaker 1: like I think they have to draft a quarterback, and

582
00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:30,266
Speaker 1: if they can't get cam Ward, the pool is awfully

583
00:24:30,306 --> 00:24:31,946
Speaker 1: shallow this year in the draft class.

584
00:24:32,346 --> 00:24:34,386
Speaker 3: I wonder then if they what they do at at three.

585
00:24:34,986 --> 00:24:37,546
Speaker 4: They have talked about how they've had good meetings and

586
00:24:37,586 --> 00:24:41,346
Speaker 4: good interactions with Shadora Sanders coming out of the combine

587
00:24:42,186 --> 00:24:44,226
Speaker 4: a lot of rumblings that he's no longer a top

588
00:24:44,266 --> 00:24:47,226
Speaker 4: ten guy in the minds of evaluators and teams around

589
00:24:47,226 --> 00:24:50,386
Speaker 4: the league. It only takes one team though, that does

590
00:24:50,626 --> 00:24:52,306
Speaker 4: so I hate I hate to kind of like say,

591
00:24:52,426 --> 00:24:54,066
Speaker 4: because if nine out of ten teams are telling you

592
00:24:54,106 --> 00:24:56,586
Speaker 4: now forget it and going in the top ten, it

593
00:24:56,666 --> 00:25:00,746
Speaker 4: was kind of like Jalen Carter with that sort we

594
00:25:00,826 --> 00:25:02,586
Speaker 4: are not taking this guy in the top ten. Well,

595
00:25:02,586 --> 00:25:04,146
Speaker 4: the Eagles were the team that said we are taking

596
00:25:04,146 --> 00:25:04,746
Speaker 4: them in the top ten.

597
00:25:04,786 --> 00:25:06,826
Speaker 1: I did tell you there were teams I told he's

598
00:25:06,826 --> 00:25:08,866
Speaker 1: not on their board, and then they drafted him and

599
00:25:08,906 --> 00:25:11,226
Speaker 1: the Eagles got them. And now everyone's like, well they

600
00:25:11,266 --> 00:25:13,706
Speaker 1: really they should have taken the Carter. Well, trust me,

601
00:25:13,866 --> 00:25:15,906
Speaker 1: the stuff coming out of Georgia was not good.

602
00:25:16,306 --> 00:25:18,226
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's hard to paint this stuff with broad

603
00:25:18,266 --> 00:25:21,786
Speaker 4: strokes here, but I just feel like, you know, at three,

604
00:25:22,306 --> 00:25:24,186
Speaker 4: if they if they're at three and it goes cam

605
00:25:24,266 --> 00:25:26,786
Speaker 4: Ward one, whether it's a Tennessee or somebody else, and

606
00:25:26,826 --> 00:25:29,026
Speaker 4: then it's Abdul Carter and you're sitting there and you

607
00:25:29,106 --> 00:25:30,586
Speaker 4: got Travis Hunter in front of you, who could be

608
00:25:30,586 --> 00:25:33,666
Speaker 4: an impact player on two sides of the ball. It's

609
00:25:33,706 --> 00:25:35,786
Speaker 4: hard to pass him up for a guy at that

610
00:25:35,866 --> 00:25:38,186
Speaker 4: point that you know a lot of folks are thinking

611
00:25:38,226 --> 00:25:40,306
Speaker 4: maybe he's not he's not worthy of that three pick.

612
00:25:40,506 --> 00:25:42,946
Speaker 4: I know that there's supporters in that building for Jackson

613
00:25:42,986 --> 00:25:46,066
Speaker 4: Dart in well positioned place yea with that team.

614
00:25:46,146 --> 00:25:48,066
Speaker 2: So and there's a history though there's a lineage as

615
00:25:48,106 --> 00:25:49,186
Speaker 2: an on this quarterback.

616
00:25:49,266 --> 00:25:52,546
Speaker 1: They had that with with Eli and like Jackson Dart

617
00:25:52,586 --> 00:25:54,226
Speaker 1: was the number one high school recruit in the country,

618
00:25:54,346 --> 00:25:56,666
Speaker 1: went to the USC Treasures of all this, he's won

619
00:25:56,706 --> 00:25:57,866
Speaker 1: ten games the last two years.

620
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Speaker 2: It's not like he's some stiff or a bust like.

621
00:26:00,106 --> 00:26:01,106
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart can play.

622
00:26:01,386 --> 00:26:03,506
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that there's members of that coaching staff

623
00:26:03,506 --> 00:26:04,626
Speaker 4: that feel like he'd be a good.

624
00:26:04,466 --> 00:26:07,266
Speaker 3: Fit for what they want to do offensively. So uh

625
00:26:07,266 --> 00:26:07,866
Speaker 3: so we'll see.

626
00:26:07,866 --> 00:26:09,346
Speaker 4: And then you know, if you add the if you

627
00:26:09,386 --> 00:26:11,506
Speaker 4: add the veteran piece, which they're going to at some point,

628
00:26:11,506 --> 00:26:13,586
Speaker 4: if you add the veteran piece, gives you a little

629
00:26:13,586 --> 00:26:16,106
Speaker 4: bit of comfortability that at least, well, maybe we can

630
00:26:16,146 --> 00:26:17,786
Speaker 4: win with this guy this year, because they've got to win.

631
00:26:17,826 --> 00:26:18,506
Speaker 3: They've got to win.

632
00:26:18,666 --> 00:26:21,666
Speaker 4: I mean when when when they retain both of these guys.

633
00:26:21,666 --> 00:26:24,026
Speaker 4: I said, I know what happens next. John Marrack comes

634
00:26:24,026 --> 00:26:28,026
Speaker 4: out and basically says that the way that I phrased it,

635
00:26:28,066 --> 00:26:34,466
Speaker 4: and people were calling me, Yeah, there's there's no playoff mandate. Okay, Manda,

636
00:26:35,306 --> 00:26:38,346
Speaker 4: but at the end of the last couple of weeks

637
00:26:38,386 --> 00:26:40,866
Speaker 4: of this upcoming season, we better be talking more about

638
00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:44,546
Speaker 4: playoff positioning than we are about draft positioning for the Giants,

639
00:26:44,546 --> 00:26:46,146
Speaker 4: because if that's the case we know what's going to happen.

640
00:26:46,186 --> 00:26:47,746
Speaker 1: Am I crazy that I look at their roster and

641
00:26:47,746 --> 00:26:49,146
Speaker 1: I don't think they're that far off though.

642
00:26:49,626 --> 00:26:51,186
Speaker 3: There's talent, right, there is talent.

643
00:26:51,506 --> 00:26:53,346
Speaker 1: Like I sound like, I sound like a loon, but

644
00:26:53,386 --> 00:26:55,546
Speaker 1: I look at their front seven and I'm like, all right,

645
00:26:55,866 --> 00:26:59,906
Speaker 1: between Lawrence and Burns and Thibodeaux, and then you get

646
00:26:59,906 --> 00:27:02,186
Speaker 1: their offensive line if Andrew Thomas is healthy, and then

647
00:27:02,226 --> 00:27:05,066
Speaker 1: you got Tracy and Neighbors, and like, there's talent.

648
00:27:05,346 --> 00:27:06,986
Speaker 2: It's there, just they don't quarterback.

649
00:27:07,186 --> 00:27:11,106
Speaker 4: Yeah, Neighbors and Tracy were the first rookie tandem since

650
00:27:11,146 --> 00:27:12,546
Speaker 4: two thousand and six.

651
00:27:12,626 --> 00:27:13,506
Speaker 3: I want to say it.

652
00:27:13,586 --> 00:27:15,466
Speaker 4: Was Marquez Coulston. Maybe it was even earlier that I

653
00:27:15,506 --> 00:27:18,666
Speaker 4: think it was two thousand and six. Reggie, Yes, right,

654
00:27:18,706 --> 00:27:21,186
Speaker 4: it was six. Reggie Busch and Marcus Coulson the first.

655
00:27:21,186 --> 00:27:25,826
Speaker 4: They go for one thousand total yards each, and I

656
00:27:25,866 --> 00:27:28,466
Speaker 4: think if Tracy had gotten a thousand yards rushing, they

657
00:27:28,466 --> 00:27:29,946
Speaker 4: would have been the first duo would ever do that.

658
00:27:30,106 --> 00:27:32,986
Speaker 4: So they've got they've got guys that can play. They'll

659
00:27:32,986 --> 00:27:36,506
Speaker 4: add some pieces in free agency. The question is how

660
00:27:36,546 --> 00:27:39,066
Speaker 4: much depth is there. Because they they had their their

661
00:27:39,146 --> 00:27:41,266
Speaker 4: rookie class last year that had four or five guys

662
00:27:41,866 --> 00:27:43,706
Speaker 4: up playing a bunch. It's like, look at all these

663
00:27:43,826 --> 00:27:48,026
Speaker 4: and it's like, well, did they play so much because good?

664
00:27:48,786 --> 00:27:50,386
Speaker 3: Did they play so much because you got nothing else

665
00:27:50,506 --> 00:27:51,146
Speaker 3: you needed to play?

666
00:27:51,146 --> 00:27:53,906
Speaker 1: These guys like newb Been played well, Phillips played well,

667
00:27:53,946 --> 00:27:55,306
Speaker 1: like they were happy with those guys.

668
00:27:55,506 --> 00:27:57,706
Speaker 3: Johnson the tight end, Leo Johnson.

669
00:27:57,706 --> 00:28:00,466
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I always I mean, maybe I'm

670
00:28:00,466 --> 00:28:02,266
Speaker 1: biased because I like him as a guy and I've

671
00:28:02,306 --> 00:28:04,706
Speaker 1: known them for years, but like, you know, I saw

672
00:28:05,066 --> 00:28:08,186
Speaker 1: someone posted like when Saquon got the new deal, like

673
00:28:08,306 --> 00:28:10,186
Speaker 1: Joe Shane has to be rolling in his gray.

674
00:28:10,186 --> 00:28:12,586
Speaker 2: Like Joe Shane has to be you know, you just

675
00:28:12,666 --> 00:28:14,066
Speaker 2: kicking the punching the air.

676
00:28:14,146 --> 00:28:17,106
Speaker 1: I'm like, Saquon wasn't having the season he had in

677
00:28:17,106 --> 00:28:19,346
Speaker 1: Philly as a New York Giant, And I don't think

678
00:28:19,386 --> 00:28:20,826
Speaker 1: if they had to do it over again, the Giants

679
00:28:20,866 --> 00:28:22,386
Speaker 1: would still have Saquon on the roster.

680
00:28:22,506 --> 00:28:22,946
Speaker 2: Like I don't.

681
00:28:23,106 --> 00:28:24,706
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to keep on pounding the

682
00:28:24,746 --> 00:28:27,306
Speaker 1: Giants over letting Saquon walk I was best for both sides.

683
00:28:27,666 --> 00:28:30,986
Speaker 4: Well, the question you got to ask is going back

684
00:28:31,026 --> 00:28:33,506
Speaker 4: a year ago, the Daniel Jones here right, would they

685
00:28:33,626 --> 00:28:37,666
Speaker 4: would they have tagged or would they have extended Saquon

686
00:28:37,666 --> 00:28:41,306
Speaker 4: and tagged Daniel. Yes, And even even at the point

687
00:28:41,306 --> 00:28:45,906
Speaker 4: where they tagged Saquon in March and then had a

688
00:28:45,986 --> 00:28:47,666
Speaker 4: chance to do a deal in July and they weren't

689
00:28:47,706 --> 00:28:50,706
Speaker 4: far apart, they were close, Like at that point, would

690
00:28:50,706 --> 00:28:53,026
Speaker 4: you do that moment differently? Because after that then that

691
00:28:53,146 --> 00:28:54,786
Speaker 4: was it. Once they got into that last season like

692
00:28:54,826 --> 00:28:55,546
Speaker 4: it was never going to.

693
00:28:55,546 --> 00:28:56,626
Speaker 3: Happen, he was never coming back.

694
00:28:56,666 --> 00:28:57,306
Speaker 2: It was done.

695
00:28:58,266 --> 00:29:01,146
Speaker 1: Okay, Brown's real quick schefter comes out and says, the

696
00:29:01,146 --> 00:29:03,466
Speaker 1: one thing I know is the Browns are drafting a quarterback,

697
00:29:03,506 --> 00:29:05,626
Speaker 1: but it might not be that clean. I know that

698
00:29:05,626 --> 00:29:07,946
Speaker 1: that's Adam just taking a shot in February. It doesn't

699
00:29:07,946 --> 00:29:10,746
Speaker 1: really mean he's putting his name on it for March

700
00:29:10,746 --> 00:29:13,826
Speaker 1: and April, but it did perk everyone's eyes up. I

701
00:29:13,826 --> 00:29:16,626
Speaker 1: don't think Deshan Watson's the quarterback moving forward. I know

702
00:29:16,786 --> 00:29:19,546
Speaker 1: Flacco's no longer there and he's been gone two years,

703
00:29:19,586 --> 00:29:21,426
Speaker 1: and like, I don't think they're going to roll out

704
00:29:21,466 --> 00:29:24,186
Speaker 1: the UCLA kid who I forget his name, who played

705
00:29:24,186 --> 00:29:25,946
Speaker 1: a bunch of snaps this season. So they do need

706
00:29:25,986 --> 00:29:28,546
Speaker 1: a quarterback, but like there's very little chatter about what.

707
00:29:28,506 --> 00:29:29,666
Speaker 2: The Browns are doing at two.

708
00:29:30,106 --> 00:29:32,986
Speaker 1: Everyone just assumes they're going to have a quarterback, but

709
00:29:33,066 --> 00:29:34,306
Speaker 1: who's that quarterback going to be?

710
00:29:34,386 --> 00:29:36,906
Speaker 3: Well, they're doing a good job because I've talked to

711
00:29:37,226 --> 00:29:41,906
Speaker 3: at least two three.

712
00:29:41,386 --> 00:29:45,626
Speaker 4: Agents in the last day who have all said like there,

713
00:29:45,626 --> 00:29:49,906
Speaker 4: guys were, yeah, like we got a shot at the Browns

714
00:29:49,946 --> 00:29:53,506
Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, So I don't think it's all

715
00:29:53,546 --> 00:29:54,906
Speaker 4: three of you. So they're doing a good job of

716
00:29:54,906 --> 00:29:57,466
Speaker 4: getting and that's just the Veneran guys, not the rookies, right,

717
00:29:57,506 --> 00:30:00,306
Speaker 4: which is good because they all sounded excited about it.

718
00:30:00,346 --> 00:30:02,506
Speaker 4: So if you're Andrew Berry, you got to feel good

719
00:30:02,546 --> 00:30:04,586
Speaker 4: about the fact that multiple guys feel good about you

720
00:30:04,706 --> 00:30:07,266
Speaker 4: being there, and maybe that'll help Miles Garrett feel better.

721
00:30:07,586 --> 00:30:10,266
Speaker 4: If it's Kirk Cousins here, I'll we'll get I know

722
00:30:10,306 --> 00:30:11,786
Speaker 4: we're jumping around, We'll go right to Cousins here.

723
00:30:11,906 --> 00:30:12,386
Speaker 2: Yeah.

724
00:30:12,466 --> 00:30:15,026
Speaker 3: I don't think Cousins happens anytime, nothing quickly.

725
00:30:15,186 --> 00:30:19,426
Speaker 4: I think that's through the draft, okay, because Cousins last

726
00:30:19,466 --> 00:30:21,466
Speaker 4: year went and signed with the team and then that

727
00:30:21,506 --> 00:30:22,746
Speaker 4: team drafted somebody.

728
00:30:22,946 --> 00:30:23,106
Speaker 2: Yep.

729
00:30:23,226 --> 00:30:24,186
Speaker 3: So unless it's like.

730
00:30:26,306 --> 00:30:28,706
Speaker 4: Pittsburg where's Pittsburghs pick that's late in the first round,

731
00:30:28,866 --> 00:30:31,786
Speaker 4: twentieth twentieth maybe maybe Pittsburgh, But even then you're risking

732
00:30:31,826 --> 00:30:33,826
Speaker 4: the chance that they could potentially take somebody there. So

733
00:30:34,586 --> 00:30:36,666
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins learned his lesson last year. I think he's

734
00:30:36,666 --> 00:30:40,026
Speaker 4: gonna play hardball. He's got that no trade clause. Atlanta's

735
00:30:40,026 --> 00:30:41,546
Speaker 4: saying they're going to sit on him, So they'll sit

736
00:30:41,586 --> 00:30:43,146
Speaker 4: on him for a while and then through the draft then.

737
00:30:43,106 --> 00:30:44,546
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna make his decision.

738
00:30:44,586 --> 00:30:47,306
Speaker 4: I think at that point you'll see what's gonna happen

739
00:30:47,386 --> 00:30:47,906
Speaker 4: with Cousins.

740
00:30:48,186 --> 00:30:50,506
Speaker 1: Someone told me if they were to cut Kirk Cousins,

741
00:30:50,506 --> 00:30:52,946
Speaker 1: which they won't, he would have had one year for

742
00:30:53,146 --> 00:30:56,426
Speaker 1: ninety million on the Atlanta Falcons.

743
00:30:56,666 --> 00:30:59,466
Speaker 4: Well there's offset, like he could get paid going forward

744
00:30:59,506 --> 00:31:02,106
Speaker 4: and they could offset, you know. So look, he's got

745
00:31:02,226 --> 00:31:04,346
Speaker 4: he's got leverage in this case. He knows what the

746
00:31:04,386 --> 00:31:07,826
Speaker 4: deal says, he knows what the situation that that Atlanta's in. Anyway,

747
00:31:07,826 --> 00:31:09,866
Speaker 4: I mentioned him for the Browns because if Cleveland wants

748
00:31:09,866 --> 00:31:12,026
Speaker 4: to do that, they could potentially see what happens through

749
00:31:12,026 --> 00:31:14,586
Speaker 4: the draft and then circle back on Cousins.

750
00:31:14,586 --> 00:31:15,226
Speaker 3: There's not enough.

751
00:31:15,266 --> 00:31:17,906
Speaker 4: You mentioned that there's not enough quarterbacks out all these

752
00:31:17,946 --> 00:31:21,066
Speaker 4: seats capably. So I think if your cousins, you're comfortable

753
00:31:21,106 --> 00:31:23,666
Speaker 4: waiting because at that point, now you've got a team that,

754
00:31:23,906 --> 00:31:26,626
Speaker 4: oh we have three free agency trades, the draft, we.

755
00:31:26,586 --> 00:31:28,946
Speaker 3: Really didn't get what we needed. We want to explore

756
00:31:28,946 --> 00:31:30,386
Speaker 3: this option at this point, all.

757
00:31:30,346 --> 00:31:32,066
Speaker 2: Right, we're gonna rap quickly, but I want to give

758
00:31:32,066 --> 00:31:32,826
Speaker 2: you a couple more teams.

759
00:31:32,906 --> 00:31:36,426
Speaker 1: Jets, I have no idea. I mean I've heard justin Fields, yeah,

760
00:31:36,626 --> 00:31:37,786
Speaker 1: but I think Steelers are good.

761
00:31:37,826 --> 00:31:39,466
Speaker 2: I think has his choice.

762
00:31:39,466 --> 00:31:41,106
Speaker 1: He's going to stick in Pittsburgh over going to the

763
00:31:41,186 --> 00:31:42,546
Speaker 1: Jets and another rebuilding thing.

764
00:31:42,586 --> 00:31:43,346
Speaker 2: But who knows, we'll see.

765
00:31:43,386 --> 00:31:44,266
Speaker 3: I mean, money talks.

766
00:31:44,506 --> 00:31:46,986
Speaker 1: But if it's not justin Fields. They can't go back

767
00:31:46,986 --> 00:31:49,466
Speaker 1: to Rogers, they can't go back to Darnold. They're too

768
00:31:49,506 --> 00:31:51,986
Speaker 1: far back in the draft to get cam Ward. They

769
00:31:52,026 --> 00:31:54,986
Speaker 1: have all these star players at different positions, but they

770
00:31:54,986 --> 00:31:57,226
Speaker 1: have a giant, gaping hole at quarterback. Could they really

771
00:31:57,266 --> 00:31:59,386
Speaker 1: roll out Tyrod Taylor as their quarterback next year?

772
00:31:59,546 --> 00:32:01,426
Speaker 3: I mean, you keep saying these names. At what point

773
00:32:01,466 --> 00:32:03,226
Speaker 3: do you get to the level of Tyrod Taylor?

774
00:32:03,306 --> 00:32:06,586
Speaker 2: You go, okay, well, and.

775
00:32:07,026 --> 00:32:07,746
Speaker 3: There are other options.

776
00:32:07,786 --> 00:32:09,346
Speaker 4: I mean, you could draft the guy late, maybe he

777
00:32:09,466 --> 00:32:13,026
Speaker 4: develops a while you're setting yourself up potentially to draft

778
00:32:13,026 --> 00:32:15,106
Speaker 4: the guy next year as well.

779
00:32:15,146 --> 00:32:17,426
Speaker 3: So there are other options. I mean, have we mentioned

780
00:32:17,506 --> 00:32:18,346
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones yet?

781
00:32:18,386 --> 00:32:20,186
Speaker 4: No name?

782
00:32:20,346 --> 00:32:23,946
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and then a name that they're not great options.

783
00:32:23,986 --> 00:32:26,746
Speaker 1: They're not a name that I keep getting told by

784
00:32:27,186 --> 00:32:29,186
Speaker 1: teams that are like, well, you can always go to

785
00:32:29,226 --> 00:32:32,106
Speaker 1: that next year. You're gonna laugh. But Jared Stidham's name

786
00:32:32,186 --> 00:32:34,666
Speaker 1: keeps on coming up. Stidy like, well, you know, if

787
00:32:34,706 --> 00:32:36,266
Speaker 1: you miss out on all of them, Stidham can at

788
00:32:36,346 --> 00:32:37,826
Speaker 1: least hold the fort. And you're like, geez, are we

789
00:32:37,866 --> 00:32:39,946
Speaker 1: really talking about I mean, I guess, like, but that's

790
00:32:39,986 --> 00:32:40,586
Speaker 1: where we're at.

791
00:32:40,906 --> 00:32:43,466
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think Daniel Jones.

792
00:32:43,706 --> 00:32:46,106
Speaker 4: I've heard his name connected to the Indianapolis Cults a bunch,

793
00:32:46,146 --> 00:32:48,226
Speaker 4: which would make sense for him, right, that's that's a

794
00:32:48,226 --> 00:32:51,066
Speaker 4: spot for him, although they do from what I heard,

795
00:32:51,546 --> 00:32:55,466
Speaker 4: Indy does want a guy potentially that could help Anthony

796
00:32:55,626 --> 00:32:58,426
Speaker 4: Richards and you know, Daniel Jones, I gotta go in

797
00:32:58,466 --> 00:32:59,466
Speaker 4: there and say, let me help this guy.

798
00:32:59,506 --> 00:33:01,226
Speaker 3: No, they are going to go into makes the company

799
00:33:01,266 --> 00:33:01,666
Speaker 3: guy out.

800
00:33:01,786 --> 00:33:04,626
Speaker 4: So Indy's got to walk that fine line of we

801
00:33:04,666 --> 00:33:07,146
Speaker 4: got to get somebody here who's gonna help. But we

802
00:33:07,226 --> 00:33:09,586
Speaker 4: also if he's not the guy, if we eventually this

803
00:33:09,666 --> 00:33:11,626
Speaker 4: year go you know what, we're out on Anthony Richardson.

804
00:33:11,786 --> 00:33:14,626
Speaker 4: We need somebody that can win because again, just like

805
00:33:14,666 --> 00:33:16,586
Speaker 4: the Giants, they're in a position where they have.

806
00:33:16,506 --> 00:33:18,106
Speaker 3: To win to make it come on their jobs.

807
00:33:18,106 --> 00:33:20,546
Speaker 2: In twenty six, I saw Chris Ballor doing media again

808
00:33:20,626 --> 00:33:22,466
Speaker 2: this week. I'm like, this guy just keeps out, you.

809
00:33:22,386 --> 00:33:23,746
Speaker 1: Know, and it's like, you gotta hit on one of

810
00:33:23,786 --> 00:33:27,506
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks after all these years, all right, gat Raiders,

811
00:33:27,546 --> 00:33:29,226
Speaker 1: so many cooks in the kitchen from Afar.

812
00:33:29,306 --> 00:33:30,586
Speaker 2: I look at this thing and it's.

813
00:33:30,426 --> 00:33:33,306
Speaker 1: Like, you've got you've got Brady now involved, you got

814
00:33:33,386 --> 00:33:35,586
Speaker 1: Chip who's got an opinion. You've got spytech who's going

815
00:33:35,626 --> 00:33:37,546
Speaker 1: to try to be If you got Pete an opinion.

816
00:33:37,906 --> 00:33:41,066
Speaker 1: Of course, Pete has history with both Russell Wilson and

817
00:33:41,146 --> 00:33:42,906
Speaker 1: Gino Smith. If they want to do a trade, there

818
00:33:43,066 --> 00:33:45,986
Speaker 1: you've got. I mean, Brady's got his thoughts on these quarters,

819
00:33:46,066 --> 00:33:47,706
Speaker 1: like what do the Raiders do? And they've got the

820
00:33:47,746 --> 00:33:50,346
Speaker 1: sixth overall pick again just out of the cam Ward

821
00:33:50,346 --> 00:33:51,906
Speaker 1: window where you could just sit and wait and take on.

822
00:33:52,426 --> 00:33:56,906
Speaker 4: Yeah, they made their push for Stafford. I thought for

823
00:33:56,946 --> 00:33:59,426
Speaker 4: a hot minute that they had a real shot to

824
00:33:59,466 --> 00:34:01,986
Speaker 4: make it happen, and I think that that was an

825
00:34:01,986 --> 00:34:05,066
Speaker 4: incredible disappointment when that didn't happen for them.

826
00:34:05,466 --> 00:34:07,146
Speaker 3: You mentioned that's funny Gino Smith.

827
00:34:08,146 --> 00:34:11,906
Speaker 4: At some point, Seattle's got to decide, like do we

828
00:34:11,946 --> 00:34:12,986
Speaker 4: want to extend this guy?

829
00:34:13,186 --> 00:34:14,946
Speaker 2: They keep kicking the can on this guy. He's been

830
00:34:14,986 --> 00:34:15,666
Speaker 2: there five years.

831
00:34:15,746 --> 00:34:17,186
Speaker 1: Is one year deal, one year deal, one year deal,

832
00:34:17,186 --> 00:34:18,946
Speaker 1: one year deal.

833
00:34:19,306 --> 00:34:20,746
Speaker 4: If you're going to trade him, his value is not

834
00:34:20,826 --> 00:34:23,266
Speaker 4: higher than it is right now. It's never gonna he's

835
00:34:23,266 --> 00:34:27,026
Speaker 4: getting older, and so you know, I know that there's

836
00:34:27,386 --> 00:34:29,546
Speaker 4: interest from Pete Carroll on that, but he's got to

837
00:34:29,546 --> 00:34:32,786
Speaker 4: convince John Spytech, who's in charge as the general manager.

838
00:34:32,866 --> 00:34:34,346
Speaker 4: So keep an eye on that one. That could be

839
00:34:34,346 --> 00:34:36,946
Speaker 4: an interesting one. They've got a bunch of irons in

840
00:34:36,986 --> 00:34:39,626
Speaker 4: the fire there. I think it's more Russ wants to

841
00:34:39,666 --> 00:34:43,106
Speaker 4: get to Vegas than Vegas wants Russ to get there,

842
00:34:43,226 --> 00:34:46,906
Speaker 4: right which even last year when Russ visited the Giants

843
00:34:47,826 --> 00:34:50,466
Speaker 4: that was initiated by by Russell Wilson.

844
00:34:50,146 --> 00:34:52,706
Speaker 1: I believe he flew himself there. From what I was

845
00:34:52,866 --> 00:34:57,666
Speaker 1: told is that is whatever that's But then we're laughing.

846
00:34:57,706 --> 00:34:59,466
Speaker 1: Russ could be a quarterback for the New York Giants

847
00:34:59,466 --> 00:35:01,786
Speaker 1: week one this season, you know the way it's working

848
00:35:01,906 --> 00:35:04,706
Speaker 1: like carousel, all right? And then my last one, it's

849
00:35:04,706 --> 00:35:08,546
Speaker 1: like I mentioned and I mentioned, we mentioned Daniel Jones,

850
00:35:08,546 --> 00:35:11,066
Speaker 1: but like then you've got like the Carson Wentz, the

851
00:35:11,146 --> 00:35:14,586
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo's like, is there a wild card in this

852
00:35:14,626 --> 00:35:17,666
Speaker 1: thing that like the Taylor Heinekes, Like one of these

853
00:35:17,666 --> 00:35:19,706
Speaker 1: guys is gonna get more money than you expected.

854
00:35:19,746 --> 00:35:20,946
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be like the Donald.

855
00:35:21,106 --> 00:35:23,986
Speaker 1: Like people forget Donald signed a one year, ten million

856
00:35:24,026 --> 00:35:25,546
Speaker 1: dollar contract with the Vikings, and a lot people are

857
00:35:25,626 --> 00:35:27,226
Speaker 1: on the league rolling their eyes, being like ten million

858
00:35:27,226 --> 00:35:28,226
Speaker 1: dollars for Donald, and.

859
00:35:28,146 --> 00:35:30,666
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, one of these guys is gonna get

860
00:35:30,666 --> 00:35:32,106
Speaker 2: a deal. Like is there a name that we're not

861
00:35:32,106 --> 00:35:33,466
Speaker 2: thinking about in the quarterback room.

862
00:35:33,866 --> 00:35:36,626
Speaker 4: I'll mention once Kansas City once Wentz back apparently had

863
00:35:36,666 --> 00:35:40,266
Speaker 4: a really good year and Andy Reid told him, we'd

864
00:35:40,306 --> 00:35:43,666
Speaker 4: love to have you back, similar deal or whatever, but

865
00:35:43,746 --> 00:35:45,586
Speaker 4: you deserve a shot to go be a starter. Again,

866
00:35:46,666 --> 00:35:48,946
Speaker 4: it's not an une question starter it's not a franchise guy,

867
00:35:48,946 --> 00:35:51,066
Speaker 4: but it's one of these situations like you're talking about.

868
00:35:51,786 --> 00:35:54,986
Speaker 3: And if anybody calls Andy Reid, I mean, maybe it's.

869
00:35:54,866 --> 00:35:57,066
Speaker 4: Not somebody in the division. If it's the Raiders who

870
00:35:57,066 --> 00:35:59,426
Speaker 4: we're talking about. If anybody calls Andy Reid, he'll tell

871
00:35:59,426 --> 00:36:01,746
Speaker 4: them that, and he will. You know, Andy's pretty good

872
00:36:01,786 --> 00:36:05,426
Speaker 4: about helping his players, you know, get better opportunities if

873
00:36:05,426 --> 00:36:08,866
Speaker 4: the better opportunity ends up being elsewhere. So yeah, keep

874
00:36:08,906 --> 00:36:09,546
Speaker 4: an eye on Onz.

875
00:36:10,066 --> 00:36:10,906
Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me.

876
00:36:11,066 --> 00:36:13,306
Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo, I think I think the Rams would like

877
00:36:13,346 --> 00:36:15,826
Speaker 4: to have him back. Yeah, a similar situation to Wentz,

878
00:36:15,826 --> 00:36:17,186
Speaker 4: like they'd like to have him back. Okay, but let's

879
00:36:17,226 --> 00:36:20,146
Speaker 4: go see what what else is out there, because there's

880
00:36:20,186 --> 00:36:23,066
Speaker 4: just not enough good capable quarterbacks that are gonna fill

881
00:36:23,106 --> 00:36:26,146
Speaker 4: all these starting jobs potentially a these bridge jobs. So yeah,

882
00:36:26,226 --> 00:36:27,706
Speaker 4: keep an eye on the two of those guys. If

883
00:36:27,706 --> 00:36:29,546
Speaker 4: one of them starting week one wouldn't surprise.

884
00:36:29,266 --> 00:36:32,226
Speaker 1: Me, all right, And then ending this thing, cam Ward

885
00:36:32,306 --> 00:36:34,706
Speaker 1: got great reviews all kind of Shador. It seems like

886
00:36:34,706 --> 00:36:37,546
Speaker 1: it's kind of split and polarized. Is there a nugget

887
00:36:37,626 --> 00:36:40,586
Speaker 1: you have on Shador that's worth sharing to this audience,

888
00:36:40,626 --> 00:36:42,546
Speaker 1: because every fan base is going to try to talk

889
00:36:42,586 --> 00:36:45,026
Speaker 1: themselves into Shador even though he's getting trashed by a

890
00:36:45,026 --> 00:36:46,266
Speaker 1: lot of people in the media right now.

891
00:36:46,426 --> 00:36:49,306
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I when I talk to Jet fans, I

892
00:36:49,346 --> 00:36:53,306
Speaker 4: mean not one hundred percent, but I hear one you know, Yeah, yeah,

893
00:36:53,346 --> 00:36:54,986
Speaker 4: I hear I hear a lot of them go at

894
00:36:54,986 --> 00:36:59,986
Speaker 4: that point, take a shot right at that point seven? Yeah, sure, yeah,

895
00:36:59,986 --> 00:37:01,826
Speaker 4: like if they're if they're saying, well, if we're the Giants,

896
00:37:01,866 --> 00:37:03,306
Speaker 4: we're up at three and we need a quarterback and

897
00:37:03,306 --> 00:37:05,546
Speaker 4: we're desperate, like we can't do that. But it's a

898
00:37:05,546 --> 00:37:07,666
Speaker 4: new regime, and if he last that long, we're good

899
00:37:07,706 --> 00:37:08,706
Speaker 4: with taking a shout on him.

900
00:37:08,706 --> 00:37:11,066
Speaker 3: At that point, we'll see.

901
00:37:11,426 --> 00:37:13,506
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't have enough of that feel.

902
00:37:13,586 --> 00:37:17,146
Speaker 4: I know that there's you know, the whole interview thing.

903
00:37:17,266 --> 00:37:19,666
Speaker 3: Oh he came in and he acted. What did you expect? Like,

904
00:37:19,746 --> 00:37:21,386
Speaker 3: you know what he's about, And I don't think he's

905
00:37:21,386 --> 00:37:24,386
Speaker 3: a bad dude. No, he said in an interview.

906
00:37:24,186 --> 00:37:26,306
Speaker 4: With Jane Slater at the Shrine Bowl our Jane Slater,

907
00:37:26,546 --> 00:37:29,586
Speaker 4: our friend Jane Slater. He's like, you know what people

908
00:37:29,626 --> 00:37:32,186
Speaker 4: don't know about me is I'm I'm a pretty humble guy.

909
00:37:32,186 --> 00:37:35,546
Speaker 4: And he had this huge chain on diamonds everywhere, and

910
00:37:35,546 --> 00:37:36,066
Speaker 4: he goes, I'm a.

911
00:37:36,026 --> 00:37:38,786
Speaker 3: Pretty humble guy, as it flashed in the lights.

912
00:37:39,546 --> 00:37:41,826
Speaker 4: I do you know, I do think that there is

913
00:37:41,866 --> 00:37:45,426
Speaker 4: a level of humility to him. You know, he's he's

914
00:37:45,426 --> 00:37:47,826
Speaker 4: been around his dad and and and the family, and

915
00:37:48,386 --> 00:37:51,186
Speaker 4: we know how Dion things and and and and Dion's

916
00:37:51,186 --> 00:37:54,106
Speaker 4: thing is not just you know, acting that way. To

917
00:37:54,106 --> 00:37:56,946
Speaker 4: act that way, It's about empowerment. It's always been about empowerment.

918
00:37:57,066 --> 00:37:59,306
Speaker 2: He's always been that way, and and and I respect it.

919
00:37:59,346 --> 00:38:01,746
Speaker 1: And I also would say this, say what you want

920
00:38:01,906 --> 00:38:04,546
Speaker 1: about Shador and like whether he came off as arrogant

921
00:38:04,666 --> 00:38:06,506
Speaker 1: or cocky or cockture, like you kind of need that

922
00:38:06,546 --> 00:38:09,466
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. And also, he got the absolute crap

923
00:38:09,586 --> 00:38:12,746
Speaker 1: kicked out of him for two years at Colorado, and

924
00:38:12,786 --> 00:38:14,826
Speaker 1: that guy just got up and kept playing football.

925
00:38:14,866 --> 00:38:16,506
Speaker 2: And I think that goes a lot further.

926
00:38:16,786 --> 00:38:18,786
Speaker 1: It's not like he's been a diva quarterback with all

927
00:38:18,826 --> 00:38:21,706
Speaker 1: pros at every position. Yes, Travis Hunter was there, but

928
00:38:22,306 --> 00:38:24,266
Speaker 1: was playing behind a different offensive line than the one

929
00:38:24,266 --> 00:38:26,506
Speaker 1: that Quinn Ewers and Will Howard have been playing behind.

930
00:38:26,866 --> 00:38:29,586
Speaker 4: Yeah, and some might say, though, that some of those

931
00:38:29,586 --> 00:38:31,906
Speaker 4: shots were unnecessary. He should have got the ball quicker,

932
00:38:31,906 --> 00:38:34,146
Speaker 4: which is going to be a part of his development

933
00:38:34,186 --> 00:38:34,706
Speaker 4: in the NFL.

934
00:38:34,786 --> 00:38:37,386
Speaker 3: We saw from Caleb. Caleb tried to escape through the

935
00:38:37,426 --> 00:38:38,186
Speaker 3: back of the pocket.

936
00:38:38,266 --> 00:38:40,866
Speaker 4: It's a lot harder to do ye in the NFC

937
00:38:40,946 --> 00:38:42,906
Speaker 4: North than it is in the PAC twelve.

938
00:38:43,186 --> 00:38:44,266
Speaker 3: So I'll say this.

939
00:38:44,306 --> 00:38:45,346
Speaker 2: I know it was the combine.

940
00:38:45,386 --> 00:38:48,546
Speaker 1: So everyone's watching and Dion's the dad, but like, yeah,

941
00:38:48,706 --> 00:38:51,826
Speaker 1: you know Rich Eisen's talking about oh and Chadure in this,

942
00:38:51,946 --> 00:38:54,786
Speaker 1: and like who's your favorite, who's in Stacy Dale's there

943
00:38:54,826 --> 00:38:55,946
Speaker 1: with him, and who's your favorite?

944
00:38:56,026 --> 00:38:59,546
Speaker 2: You know, who's Deon's favorite? Kid? Ranco and Dion's tweeting

945
00:38:59,866 --> 00:39:02,146
Speaker 2: right at the show, and like that stuff's real.

946
00:39:02,266 --> 00:39:05,186
Speaker 1: Dion is he is up, He's a he's got a

947
00:39:05,186 --> 00:39:09,426
Speaker 1: big voice, he's universally respected and whether or not it's

948
00:39:09,506 --> 00:39:12,226
Speaker 1: insecurity or whatever. But like some teams might just look

949
00:39:12,266 --> 00:39:14,746
Speaker 1: at all that and say, I'm trying to provide for

950
00:39:14,786 --> 00:39:16,386
Speaker 1: my family. I'm a GM, I'm a coach.

951
00:39:16,426 --> 00:39:19,106
Speaker 2: I don't want that.

952
00:39:18,426 --> 00:39:21,586
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really as negative as that sounds, and that

953
00:39:21,746 --> 00:39:23,826
Speaker 1: sucks for the kid. But like that, there might be

954
00:39:23,866 --> 00:39:27,186
Speaker 1: those who are scared of taken on not only you know,

955
00:39:27,266 --> 00:39:29,066
Speaker 1: a player that we're not sure is going to be

956
00:39:29,426 --> 00:39:31,986
Speaker 1: an All pro whatever, a quarterback, but also all that

957
00:39:32,026 --> 00:39:34,506
Speaker 1: comes with it, whether that should be positive or negative.

958
00:39:34,586 --> 00:39:36,946
Speaker 4: Plus a head coach who goes, if we draft this guy,

959
00:39:37,386 --> 00:39:39,266
Speaker 4: is Dean going to be looking over my shoulder as

960
00:39:39,346 --> 00:39:40,986
Speaker 4: you know, Well, I'm gonna take because he already said

961
00:39:40,986 --> 00:39:42,866
Speaker 4: like if your coaches in the NFL, I forget the

962
00:39:42,906 --> 00:39:44,746
Speaker 4: exact quote, but I'm going to coach post on kids.

963
00:39:44,786 --> 00:39:49,386
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Multiple, Well, a whole lot to Peter.

964
00:39:50,066 --> 00:39:53,586
Speaker 1: You're on the Insiders Show seven pm Eastern day.

965
00:39:53,786 --> 00:39:55,386
Speaker 2: You do awesome work. I really love you.

966
00:39:55,866 --> 00:39:57,906
Speaker 1: And also free agency next week is going to be

967
00:39:57,946 --> 00:39:58,986
Speaker 1: probably world of wall for you.

968
00:39:59,026 --> 00:39:59,786
Speaker 2: What's the schedule.

969
00:40:00,026 --> 00:40:02,506
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're Monday to when we start on Sunday. We've

970
00:40:02,506 --> 00:40:05,706
Speaker 3: got free agency frenzy Monday. I believe all day Tuesday,

971
00:40:05,706 --> 00:40:07,426
Speaker 3: all day you're joining actual You better be joining us

972
00:40:07,426 --> 00:40:08,306
Speaker 3: for this coverage we need.

973
00:40:08,706 --> 00:40:09,866
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't ask me.

974
00:40:10,626 --> 00:40:12,146
Speaker 3: I'm asking you, Peter. I'm gonna massage.

975
00:40:12,706 --> 00:40:13,506
Speaker 2: What can I offer?

976
00:40:14,066 --> 00:40:16,626
Speaker 1: I'll offer you a couple a couple of nuggets here

977
00:40:16,626 --> 00:40:17,386
Speaker 1: and there that I get.

978
00:40:17,466 --> 00:40:19,186
Speaker 2: But you guys got it pretty good, you Tom.

979
00:40:19,186 --> 00:40:21,346
Speaker 3: And you got more than you let on, Peter. We

980
00:40:21,386 --> 00:40:22,746
Speaker 3: all know that. We all know that.

981
00:40:22,906 --> 00:40:24,586
Speaker 2: Here's my here's my question though.

982
00:40:24,706 --> 00:40:28,346
Speaker 1: The Sunday show is just to Sun to set the

983
00:40:28,386 --> 00:40:32,586
Speaker 1: table and then Monday they can actually legally tamper. But

984
00:40:33,186 --> 00:40:36,106
Speaker 1: we usually know come that legally, like that's when we

985
00:40:36,146 --> 00:40:39,186
Speaker 1: start firing off. The sources indicate they have intentions to sign.

986
00:40:38,986 --> 00:40:41,466
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you can reach a verbal agreement. They changed that.

987
00:40:41,706 --> 00:40:44,026
Speaker 4: The NFL kind of sort of did this and said, well,

988
00:40:44,066 --> 00:40:45,066
Speaker 4: we're tampering.

989
00:40:44,706 --> 00:40:46,426
Speaker 3: So we're going to open up a legal window where

990
00:40:46,466 --> 00:40:47,026
Speaker 3: you can talk.

991
00:40:47,066 --> 00:40:49,506
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, during that period they

992
00:40:49,506 --> 00:40:52,426
Speaker 4: were having negotiations and finalizing deals. So the NFL said, well,

993
00:40:52,426 --> 00:40:54,866
Speaker 4: we're just going to make that the point at which

994
00:40:54,906 --> 00:40:56,466
Speaker 4: you can talk and finalized deals.

995
00:40:56,826 --> 00:40:59,026
Speaker 5: So what time is that? That's twelve eastern Monday, So

996
00:40:59,026 --> 00:41:01,106
Speaker 5: so Wednesday moved up to Monday. It's yeah, I think

997
00:41:01,146 --> 00:41:04,626
Speaker 5: it's twelve eastern on Monday. So basically now it's like, well,

998
00:41:04,666 --> 00:41:07,546
Speaker 5: they tamper ahead of the tampering window, so it's like

999
00:41:07,866 --> 00:41:09,866
Speaker 5: it just all it did was move it up a

1000
00:41:09,866 --> 00:41:10,586
Speaker 5: couple of days.

1001
00:41:10,666 --> 00:41:13,506
Speaker 4: But I remember our coverage the first year when they

1002
00:41:13,506 --> 00:41:16,266
Speaker 4: did this, they were stunned by the number of deals.

1003
00:41:16,386 --> 00:41:19,266
Speaker 4: We weren't wall to wall. And then the next year

1004
00:41:19,266 --> 00:41:20,866
Speaker 4: it was like, well we got to be you know,

1005
00:41:20,946 --> 00:41:21,786
Speaker 4: on for twelve hours.

1006
00:41:21,786 --> 00:41:23,186
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what it was.

1007
00:41:23,426 --> 00:41:24,666
Speaker 1: It was we didn't know how it's going to go

1008
00:41:24,706 --> 00:41:26,946
Speaker 1: down because I was a part of it. Monday and Tuesday,

1009
00:41:26,986 --> 00:41:28,786
Speaker 1: every deal is down, and then Wednesday, every deal is

1010
00:41:28,826 --> 00:41:29,266
Speaker 1: already done.

1011
00:41:29,266 --> 00:41:30,666
Speaker 2: And it was like, welcome to Fridge.

1012
00:41:30,346 --> 00:41:30,426
Speaker 1: And.

1013
00:41:32,066 --> 00:41:35,786
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we adjusted our coverage here, So give.

1014
00:41:35,626 --> 00:41:38,626
Speaker 1: Me your favorite free agent, like a guy that you know,

1015
00:41:38,666 --> 00:41:40,146
Speaker 1: you got this whole list of Fridge. I'm gonna give

1016
00:41:40,146 --> 00:41:41,346
Speaker 1: you my guy who I think is one of my

1017
00:41:41,346 --> 00:41:42,986
Speaker 1: favorite players in the NFL that I don't know what

1018
00:41:43,026 --> 00:41:44,386
Speaker 1: his market is, but I can't wait to see how

1019
00:41:44,386 --> 00:41:44,826
Speaker 1: it works out.

1020
00:41:44,826 --> 00:41:45,386
Speaker 2: Who's yours?

1021
00:41:45,986 --> 00:41:48,266
Speaker 3: Are we going under the radar? Are we got either one?

1022
00:41:48,346 --> 00:41:51,186
Speaker 4: You could say whoever you want, Like, like, Milton Williams

1023
00:41:51,186 --> 00:41:53,306
Speaker 4: is fascinating to me, and I think he's gonna make

1024
00:41:53,306 --> 00:41:55,626
Speaker 4: a ton of money as a defensive tackle.

1025
00:41:56,026 --> 00:41:58,426
Speaker 1: My favorite player on the Chiefs for multiple I think

1026
00:41:58,466 --> 00:42:00,426
Speaker 1: Nick Bolton being a free agent is fascinating.

1027
00:42:00,866 --> 00:42:02,906
Speaker 2: You're watching that guy he's a scud missile. I think

1028
00:42:02,906 --> 00:42:03,986
Speaker 2: he's great, and.

1029
00:42:03,906 --> 00:42:05,906
Speaker 1: I don't know, linebackers don't make the money that they

1030
00:42:05,986 --> 00:42:08,506
Speaker 1: used to make. But like, I just some curiously where

1031
00:42:08,506 --> 00:42:11,266
Speaker 1: he ends up because so many times these chiefs guys

1032
00:42:11,266 --> 00:42:13,266
Speaker 1: and it'd rather be Wally Gay or Lagarious need to

1033
00:42:13,346 --> 00:42:14,986
Speaker 1: end up on these crap teams and they just go

1034
00:42:15,146 --> 00:42:17,346
Speaker 1: vanish into the night. And it's like, well they got

1035
00:42:17,346 --> 00:42:19,186
Speaker 1: the money, and like we're happy for him, but like,

1036
00:42:19,546 --> 00:42:21,346
Speaker 1: where does Nick Bolton go? Because that guy I only

1037
00:42:21,426 --> 00:42:23,386
Speaker 1: I only picture him playing in huge games.

1038
00:42:23,986 --> 00:42:28,226
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean, it's not it's not a sexy club.

1039
00:42:29,266 --> 00:42:32,106
Speaker 4: The draft and free agency is kind of bl Yeah,

1040
00:42:32,546 --> 00:42:35,386
Speaker 4: I'm here, but no, we're gonna we're gonna do it

1041
00:42:35,426 --> 00:42:38,826
Speaker 4: like Nick Westbrook. Akine is an interesting one right here

1042
00:42:39,666 --> 00:42:40,626
Speaker 4: touchdowns last year?

1043
00:42:40,626 --> 00:42:42,066
Speaker 3: Like is that guy gonna hit big?

1044
00:42:42,146 --> 00:42:45,026
Speaker 4: And uh, who's I'll give you my sleeper free agent?

1045
00:42:45,026 --> 00:42:47,626
Speaker 3: Who's who's the Who's the guy?

1046
00:42:48,226 --> 00:42:52,346
Speaker 4: Uh that I was being told is going to actually

1047
00:42:52,426 --> 00:42:54,626
Speaker 4: surprise people in the edge.

1048
00:42:55,746 --> 00:42:57,386
Speaker 2: Let's you up over under on this?

1049
00:42:57,826 --> 00:42:58,866
Speaker 3: You want to do it over under?

1050
00:42:59,106 --> 00:43:01,986
Speaker 1: Well, because I'm like money wise, Yeah, okay, Well I

1051
00:43:01,986 --> 00:43:03,506
Speaker 1: don't know because the new salary cap, it's talk going

1052
00:43:03,586 --> 00:43:06,426
Speaker 1: to be bunched up. I'll never forget. I I forget

1053
00:43:07,306 --> 00:43:09,346
Speaker 1: what year was it. There was a guy and it

1054
00:43:09,426 --> 00:43:12,506
Speaker 1: was like we all were just like what, like what, Oh?

1055
00:43:12,586 --> 00:43:13,746
Speaker 3: It was the Wide It was.

1056
00:43:13,746 --> 00:43:17,586
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins making what he got from the Chiefs that

1057
00:43:17,706 --> 00:43:20,066
Speaker 1: year is probably twenty seventeen, and it came out of

1058
00:43:20,066 --> 00:43:23,306
Speaker 1: nowhere and Sammy Watkins got this massive deal from the Chiefs.

1059
00:43:23,306 --> 00:43:25,066
Speaker 2: So we were like, yeah, I guess that's it.

1060
00:43:25,306 --> 00:43:28,866
Speaker 6: So so the one guy that I was somebody mentioned

1061
00:43:28,866 --> 00:43:32,986
Speaker 6: this to me, Doe o' dangbo from the Colts, that

1062
00:43:33,066 --> 00:43:35,346
Speaker 6: this guy's gonna make a ton of money.

1063
00:43:35,586 --> 00:43:37,466
Speaker 2: And this is not this is not his agent telling

1064
00:43:37,466 --> 00:43:37,706
Speaker 2: you this.

1065
00:43:37,866 --> 00:43:40,106
Speaker 3: No, No, that's what you know.

1066
00:43:40,426 --> 00:43:42,146
Speaker 4: When it's the agent, it's like, all right, you take

1067
00:43:42,146 --> 00:43:43,986
Speaker 4: it with you take it with a grain of salt.

1068
00:43:44,026 --> 00:43:44,186
Speaker 1: Here.

1069
00:43:44,946 --> 00:43:48,106
Speaker 3: But I don't even know if a dio Doe, Let's okay,

1070
00:43:48,266 --> 00:43:49,066
Speaker 3: Dao dang bo.

1071
00:43:49,386 --> 00:43:51,346
Speaker 4: If that dude makes a ton of money, I will

1072
00:43:51,346 --> 00:43:52,946
Speaker 4: tip my cap to the person that told me that.

1073
00:43:52,986 --> 00:43:54,866
Speaker 4: But Patrick Jones from the Vikings is the guy that

1074
00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:55,786
Speaker 4: I heard that.

1075
00:43:56,266 --> 00:43:58,546
Speaker 2: Patrick Jones, not Daniel Patrick.

1076
00:43:58,986 --> 00:44:02,586
Speaker 4: Patrick Jones from the Vikings, not Daniel Jones. Yeah, who

1077
00:44:02,626 --> 00:44:06,986
Speaker 4: makes more money? Patrick or Daniel Jones? Still finish?

1078
00:44:07,066 --> 00:44:07,826
Speaker 2: Put a pull up?

1079
00:44:08,026 --> 00:44:11,186
Speaker 1: Who makes more a free agency Daniel Jones or Patrick Jones.

1080
00:44:11,266 --> 00:44:13,626
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones or Patrick Jones or Patrick Jones from the

1081
00:44:13,666 --> 00:44:15,066
Speaker 4: Vikings from what I heard is gonna have a lot

1082
00:44:15,106 --> 00:44:16,906
Speaker 4: of interest. Is a guy that can show they can

1083
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Speaker 4: do a bunch of different things, and that.

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Speaker 3: Guy could surprise people. So there you go. There's my

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Speaker 3: there's my free agent.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody tune into NFL Network and when Patrick

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Speaker 1: Jones gets drafted, tweet me and Mike it's at Mike

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Speaker 1: Garafalo on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, I love it, Thanks for joining.

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Speaker 3: You got it the off season with Peter Schrager.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate you, dude. All right, So that's Mike Garatfollo.

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Speaker 1: I bring on Aaron wan Kaufman, my co host, who's

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Speaker 1: about to be on vacation for a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: before we get to all the free agency frenzy and

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Speaker 1: all that. Your reaction, give me one thought on on

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Speaker 1: either a A Jordan Schultz, who is an NFL insider

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Speaker 1: altercation with Ian Rappaport in front of a Starbucks.

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Speaker 2: Jordan's dad is the former CEO Starbucks.

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Speaker 1: You can't write the script any better or any of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback stuff we heard. I know you've got a

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Speaker 1: view of this stuff that's different than us who live

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Speaker 1: and breathe it and are in all these conversations. You

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Speaker 1: kind of look at it as voice of the fan,

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Speaker 1: but also an educated fan.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 8: I'll I'll give you two. First, on the Schultz Rappaport thing.

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Speaker 8: I loved your take that rap Port should have seen

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Speaker 8: if he could have gotten a you know, go go

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Speaker 8: to Caribou Coffee, get it, get an endorsement or something there.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not an ambulance chaser, but pardon me.

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00:45:38,506 --> 00:45:41,626
Speaker 1: Thought take a punch and this thing is totally different.

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00:45:41,786 --> 00:45:44,346
Speaker 1: Like Instigator, This is a different story if you take

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Speaker 1: a nice little sucker punch to the face and it's

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Speaker 1: on camera.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on.

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Speaker 8: I also wonder how many other times I don't know

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Speaker 8: anything about Jordan Schultz, how many other people has he

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Speaker 8: tried to intimidate at a Starbucks.

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Speaker 1: I honestly think Jordan's a nice pacifist Like this was

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Speaker 1: very specific, and the backstory is Jordan had a report

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Speaker 1: on Matthew Stafford and Tom Brady and Ian's tweet about

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Speaker 1: that report was so dismissive that even I said who

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Speaker 1: he called it like an erroneous internet rumor and clarified it.

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Speaker 1: And then this was like, Hey, you're gonna talk smack,

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Speaker 1: let's let's talk in person.

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Speaker 8: And this is the Stafford is visiting Brady's house in Montana.

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Speaker 1: Let me break let me break this down for us

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Speaker 1: because I don't live in this one percent world, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of these football players do. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: There's something called the Yellowstone Club. It's a Melman property,

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00:46:31,226 --> 00:46:33,466
Speaker 1: It's Discovery Land, It's this whole thing, and this is

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Speaker 1: where it is. Justin Bieber has one of these places,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, Gretzky is one of these places.

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00:46:39,666 --> 00:46:42,026
Speaker 2: When you're uber uber, uber, uber wealthy, you can.

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Speaker 1: Pay for a home and with the home comes all

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Speaker 1: the amenities you could imagine.

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Speaker 2: It's basically, you live on one of the nicest golf

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Speaker 2: courses in the world. You have a.

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00:46:49,746 --> 00:46:53,546
Speaker 1: Comfort station, you have amazing kids activities like These properties

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00:46:53,786 --> 00:46:56,506
Speaker 1: are insane and they're all inclusive, and you buy one

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Speaker 1: of the homes for a crazy amount of money and

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00:46:58,346 --> 00:46:59,786
Speaker 1: you just have a place to go where there's no

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Speaker 1: paparazzi allowed, and there's something. So Tom Brady has one

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Speaker 1: in Montana at the Yellowstone Club. Guess who else does

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00:47:06,546 --> 00:47:09,106
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. So they both were there at the same

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00:47:09,146 --> 00:47:12,226
Speaker 1: time and they talked, and that happens. You can have

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Speaker 1: a conversation. Jordan's tweet positioned it as Brady, the owner

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Speaker 1: of the Raiders, hosted Stafford and they had not, and

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Speaker 1: then Ian was just basically like, that's wrong, that you

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Speaker 1: don't get it, and then Jordan didn't like how that

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00:47:23,466 --> 00:47:25,746
Speaker 1: was positioned. You add in the fact that he's the

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00:47:25,746 --> 00:47:27,706
Speaker 1: son of the Starbucks CEO, you add him the fact

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Speaker 1: that he's got this Fox Sports label. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: his role at Fox Sports or what that means part time,

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00:47:32,426 --> 00:47:35,146
Speaker 1: full time, but you add in that and that Brady's

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Speaker 1: the number one highest paid person at Fox Sports, and

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Speaker 1: there's all these different sorts of like, well, wait, I'm confused,

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Speaker 1: is he Fox?

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Speaker 2: Is he gat this from Brady?

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Speaker 1: So that was that, But yes, Caribou Coffee could be

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Speaker 1: a really nice deal for Ian Rappaport if he wants

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Speaker 1: to go down that road.

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Speaker 8: And then on the quarterbacks, I was not expecting that

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Speaker 8: much discussing On, Carson wentz of all people, right, the

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Speaker 8: idea that he could get another starting gig, that's that's amazing.

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Speaker 8: To think of his transition we run. Yeah, to think

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Speaker 8: of how he kind of lost in Philadelphia, I mean,

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Speaker 8: that's not offensive. Everyone knows he lost the name Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 8: And to think that he could possibly get another gig

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Speaker 8: that one surprised me. I was not expecting that name.

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Speaker 8: I feel like, you know, heard the Jimmy g talk already,

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Speaker 8: and also excited to see what the Colts do. I'm

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Speaker 8: not not like a Colts fan or anything, but the

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Speaker 8: mystique of Anthony Richardson continues to live, and so it

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Speaker 8: would be great to see him really do well and

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Speaker 8: get a quarterback that can kind of take him under

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Speaker 8: their wing and help him get to what we all.

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Speaker 8: I remember that his draft night and how exciting it

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Speaker 8: was he got drafted, and I was with someone who

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Speaker 8: was a Colts fan, and I was like, you must

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Speaker 8: be thrilled right now, and he.

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Speaker 1: Went forth overall bro Yeah, and then but once you

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Speaker 1: tap out of a game, I know it sounds so

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Speaker 1: superficial and so manly, and like people see that. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's made the developments that necessarily and he's

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Speaker 1: been injured a bunch, you know, he's got the shoulder

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Speaker 1: injury and all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: So it's just like just they brought in Flaco to

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Speaker 1: compete with them, and they went back and forth and

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Speaker 1: then we'll see if But if I'm Daniel Jones, then

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Speaker 1: I know they already is a guy there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm signing with the Colts.

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Speaker 1: If I'm Daniel Jones, I think the Browns is more attractive,

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Speaker 1: or if there's another team that's willing to let me

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Speaker 1: compete for the starting job and I think I can

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Speaker 1: win it, like that might be better off. So the

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Speaker 1: Colts were the early team that was mentioned, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think. Look, I don't know what the market is

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Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones, but if there's another team, I think

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Speaker 1: he'd be willing to talk to them too.

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Speaker 2: The teams that interested me.

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Speaker 1: The most Jets and Raiders, because they don't have a

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Speaker 1: draft pick that's high enough to just like just say, okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll just take one of the top two. They might

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Speaker 1: both be gone, and they're so tortured at that position,

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Speaker 1: and they've got new brass coming in so like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I do like what I suggested, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see if it could happen that like Chip Kelly, Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady and Pete Carroll go to Seattle and they're like

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith to the Raiders and let's compete.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see.

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Speaker 8: That's another one that I really I really like that

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Speaker 8: Geno discussion.

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Speaker 1: But he's under contract, he's got a free so it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Rogers to the Giants. I still think it's very possible.

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Speaker 1: I know people have put all this damp water on it.

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Speaker 1: They're like, you know, he can't. I could see it.

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Speaker 1: I could see Rogers to the Giants, and I could

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Speaker 1: see that happening in both sides being like, let's f

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Speaker 1: the world, let's go do this and let's prove people wrong.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it'd be interesting to see him in that stadium.

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Speaker 8: Oh wait, we just got a season that we just

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Speaker 8: got that. Yes, it could could be fun. I mean,

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Speaker 8: as much as I hate to admit it, he wasn't

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Speaker 8: horrible last year. He wasn't He played some good games

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Speaker 8: at the end, especially with DeVante Adams. I don't know

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Speaker 8: if Adams is gonna go back to stay on the

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Speaker 8: East coast or if he wants to go to the

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Speaker 8: West coast. But it could be interesting with him on

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Speaker 8: the Raiders, I mean sorry, with him on the Giants.

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Speaker 8: I was just thinking. I texted one of my friends

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Speaker 8: is a huge Giants fan a couple of days ago

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Speaker 8: about the possibility of Rogers going to the Giants, and

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Speaker 8: he was very upset.

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Speaker 1: He just I think all the Giants fans are down

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Speaker 1: on this, Like, there's not one Giants fan who wants

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Like the Jets, it's got rid of Rogers.

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00:51:07,466 --> 00:51:10,626
Speaker 1: No Giants fan wants the Jets leftovers and like what

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Speaker 1: they dismissed. But it's a different deal. It's a different deal,

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00:51:14,026 --> 00:51:17,066
Speaker 1: all right, Aaron, enjoy some time off. I'll probably be

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00:51:17,106 --> 00:51:19,426
Speaker 1: back on next week with some free agency stuff once

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00:51:19,426 --> 00:51:22,346
Speaker 1: that starts flying off. But the season with Peter Schrager

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00:51:22,386 --> 00:51:26,066
Speaker 1: continues to roll on. And hey guys, we're back. It's

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Speaker 1: the off season. It's when we're at our best. Combine awesome.

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00:51:29,706 --> 00:51:32,346
Speaker 1: No fights for me. I just hung in the pocket

1247
00:51:32,346 --> 00:51:33,786
Speaker 1: and do what I do and just trying to get

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Speaker 1: through unscathed.

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Speaker 9: Thanks for listening to everybody.

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