WEBVTT - #591 - GMA Host Michael Strahan on Splitting a Bottle with Julia Roberts & Going to Space 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:08.399 She asked me if I want to have a glass 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.720 of rose. I said absolutely, because he turned down Julia 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:13.720 Roberts in a glass of rose. And we ended up 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.880 finishing off a bottle of rose and it was fantastic. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:20.880 Every year I sent her a case of rose. I 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:22.560 don't know if he drinks it or not, but you 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:26.200 know I send it to her. 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.240 We have a living legend on the Bobby Cast Today, 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.800 super Bowl Champion with the New York Giants. He's a 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.960 Hall of Famer. He's co anchor of Good Morning America. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.600 I'm gonna talk to Michael Strahan from setting a single 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.920 season sack record, he flew in Space with Blue Origin, 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.800 which we'll talk about. Like he's all over the place. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.479 He also has a collection and it's called The Collection 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.400 by Michael Strahan. It suits, It's in one hundred Belk 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.680 stores and it's online. And I love this guy. I've 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.520 been able to work with them a couple of times 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.360 beyond Good Morning America, and he was so nice. We 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.480 talk about that and we talked football on TV and 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:04.880 business space and everything in between. If you don't know him, well, 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.120 you're about to love him. Here he is. My conversation 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.760 with Michael Strahan. Michael Strahan, what's up, man? 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.600 What's up? Man? I'm so hungry. I'm on here eating 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:15.280 from Starburst. 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.720 You eat Starburst. I'm surprised that you, for two reasons, 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:20.760 would eat Starbursts. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.520 Probably had him in years, but and that's why they're 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.319 probably harder than a rock. They're all kind of harder 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.280 than a rock right now, but I mean, deferate times 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:29.160 off for different. 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.280 Is it that desperate you gotta eat old Starburst? 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:34.280 I'm not desperate right now. 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.720 Let me just say it's been it's been a few minutes. 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.480 I don't even know if you remember me, but I 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.440 have a couple of Michael Strahan stories. Once once I 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:46.880 was in New York for something else, and I got 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.160 a call going, hey, will you go up to GMA 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.720 and talk to Michael Strahan about Old Town Road? And 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.320 I was like, yeah, sure, So I threw on some 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.560 g I literally threw on some jeans and a B 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.000 plus shirt and went up and talking about Oldtown Road 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.640 whenever Lolana's X was blowing up. Now it's kind of 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.000 fun because you're just the easiest got to be around. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:06.640 And then obviously when I you know, I want to 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:08.200 dancing with the Stars. That was kind of odd that 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.640 that was a fun one too. But uh, I always 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.680 tell people like, you're a big dude, but you're a 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.919 very warm guy. You feel like you've always been that 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:15.720 way towards people. 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.920 Uh yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. I appreciate that, and 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:25.200 I remember meeting you every time. So yeah, I've always 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:29.880 felt like people are important. I was always growing up 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.960 as a kid, was kind of had those jobs that 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.320 you weren't the scene person in when you're cutting the 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:38.320 grass or you're moving furniture and people just don't see you. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.680 You're kind of just there. So for me, it's always 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.400 about being warm and making people feel seen. So and 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.240 I like people, so yeah, I always I feel like 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:52.000 I'm that guy except for the football field. Outside of that, 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:53.360 I'm actually pretty nice. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:54.920 Was that a switch? 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.240 Oh yeah, Oh yeah, you gotta have a switch. You 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.000 have to be a It's weird when I was a 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.440 kid kid, being like twenty one in the first year 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.880 in the league. You have to you think for years, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.960 like I got to be mad at that guy. I 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.080 gotta be mad he said something about my mama, Like 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.799 you're creating all these scenarios in your head. But as 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.000 I got older, it was, hey, we can have the 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.000 conversation right now. Like to hold on, Bobby, put my 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.480 helmet on, run out there, look at the guy, Smile 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.600 at him, beat him up a little bit, come back, 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.080 put the helmet down, and continue the conversation. It was 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.280 more about learning how to control your aggression and how 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.960 to control your focus. And it took me some years 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.720 to do it, but it made the game easier, made 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:44.760 it more relaxed, made it more fun, less stressful. So yeah, 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.240 I definitely felt like you have to have a switch. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.360 If you don't, you'll burn yourself out quickly. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.240 I think it's been pretty amazing to watch the new 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.440 professional identity you've created. But I do, and I work 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.040 for the NFL, and I work with Matt Cassel, who 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:59.840 was a quarterback, and we talked a lot about athletes 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:01.920 when they leave, they kind of have to figure out 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.640 who they are because all they've ever done is be 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.120 that was that you know mentally for you? Was that 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:08.720 a struggle? 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.760 Absolutely? I knew I had a job with Fox when 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.800 I retired, I mean that was that was done. I'd 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.600 already had a deal that signed and put in a 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.160 drawer and the first year of that deal went by, 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.640 and I still I went back to the Giants. It 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.280 wasn't about having a job. It was about having a 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.080 you know, being comfortable. And my first year at Fox, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.880 first three weeks, I was thinking I should have gone 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:35.880 back to play football. This TV stuff is not for me. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.400 It's hard. It's a lot harder than it looks. But 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.560 once I got it down, I love it. But yeah, 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.279 football was just it's something we've done on our whole lives, 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.680 and how do you transition out of that? And you 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.719 walk into a room and you feel like that's all 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.440 everybody sees as the football player. They don't see the 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.279 human being. They don't see someone who has other interest 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.120 someone who is more rounded than what they expected an 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.680 athlete to be. So yeah, that was a big adjustment 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.280 for me. Even though I knew I had a job, 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:05.200 it still was tough. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.160 Did you feel like when you would go into a 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.080 room that you would try to prove you were more 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.240 of what you actually were, but try to be more 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.719 of that so people would take you as that instead 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:15.560 of just an athlete. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:23.200 I think at some point probably probably, But I remember 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.719 I was talking to a movie guy, movie producer, and 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:29.960 I remember saying to him, Yeah, you know, I feel 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.159 like I go into these things because I thought I 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.479 wanted to be an actur at that point. So I'm like, yeah, 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.039 I go to these auditions and I feel like I 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.200 walk in and they just go. Hear the football player 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.279 and he said, people will see you as you see 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:45.480 yourself and he said that, and it kind of like, Okay, 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.640 I got to take myself out of just that football 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.599 player of mentality. And once I did that, it's like 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.800 a lot of different things start to happen. I think 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.640 people did see me in a different light. I think 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:02.160 being just taking advantage of opportunity, and by that I 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.800 mean getting over the fear of failure, to feel your 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.039 fear of being in front of a group of people 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.039 and something not working out, just saying yes to something 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.960 just for the experience of it, and see where that led. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.599 And I look back now and I'm so grateful that 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.760 I kind of got over the fear of the failure, 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.880 the fear of feeling like you're you're you're gonna look 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.120 stupid if you do something, and just get rid of 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.720 all that stuff, drop your ego at the door, and 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.200 go to work. And that's what I did, and it's 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:33.240 worked out. 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.760 How early did you start doing Live with Kelly and 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:37.720 Michael from after you retired. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:43.600 Think a fourth year out of football? Yeah, I think 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:44.600 my fourth year out. 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.479 Did you feel like you were ready for that or 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.919 do you feel like that was training camp for what 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:49.479 you're doing now? 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.919 Oh? No, I was ready for that because coming from Fox, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.800 got four other guys that have to listen to and 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:03.000 pay attention to. That was tough. Live was probably the 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.000 easiest show I've ever done, to be honest with you, 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.920 because it was more personality driven. It was more you know, 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:13.760 paid by celebrity driven, more fun and upbeat. So that 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.320 was just kind of natural to me, and I enjoyed it. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.360 I loved it. It was It was really a lot 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.480 of fun. And GMA is a little bit of that, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.720 but you have the news and you have other components, 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.760 so it required for you to have a different range 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.840 and much more and much more rounded range and Live. 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.560 But I felt like I was ready for Live. GMA 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.760 and Football were the two that when I first started, 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.680 I was a little overwhelmed. Live felt natural. It was 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:42.320 just a good fit. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.640 Did you feel like playing football you would get more 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.800 scrutiny like film or once you started doing GMA when 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.760 they were Were you getting scrutiny from you know, producers 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:52.840 or executives. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.400 No, it's it's weird producers and executives in a lot 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.080 of ways. You need people around you outside of that 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.680 who we're going to tell you the truth. And not 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:04.240 that they don't tell you the truth, but I think 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.360 a lot of them is so afraid to upset what 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:12.240 they call the talent, so they they will go around 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.200 and try to hopefully get around that gets to you 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.720 around the bend, not directly to your face, but coming 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.880 from football, I'm used to it, like a coach cursing 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:25.400 you out, screaming at you, talking about everything about you. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.520 You just got to take it, or you just got 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.160 to tough en up. And I'm being on the field 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.240 and having guys do that or being in to have 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.120 the media do that to you have to have a 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.440 bad game or bad season. So I was pretty tough 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:40.000 from the football aspect of it. I think that the 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.640 other criticism that you get, I think I was. I 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.000 judge myself a lot harder than anybody in the newspaper 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.439 is going to judge me. So I just learned when 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.560 I played football, and I remember telling one of the 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.600 reporters this after he had kind of pissed me off, 0:08:56.040 --> 0:09:00.360 I said, well, you know what I learned, I'm not 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.480 gonna let take that. I'm not gonna let the opinion 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.920 of someone upset me who the last time they put 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.040 on a football uniform is when their mom took them 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.720 trick or treating. And it's very easy for me to 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.880 criticize what you do. I can't do what you do, 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.720 but I know one thing I could do what those 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.520 guys were doing. They couldn't do what I was doing 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.480 at the time. So I used to always look at 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:23.080 it and think, no one is more. People want to 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:28.440 our people want to see succeed, but most people, you know, 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.920 sometime they don't. But then if they don't and you 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.240 have a comeback, they like that too. And being in 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.480 New York to have that thick skin, so I developed 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.440 it here man, and it's worked great for me. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.520 It's weird. You bring up a great point, like our 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.440 culture is funny because they love to build you up. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.120 They don't always love to see you stay up there 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.439 because then they love to knock you down, and then 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.720 they love to see you build yourself back up again 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.800 after they've built you up and knocked you down. It's 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:59.800 almost like they want to yo yo you. That's exactly what. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.760 Yeah, But I will tell you, if you could build 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:07.720 yourself back up after getting knocked down, then you almost 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.200 feel like nothing could take you down again, you know, 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:15.319 unless you do something to sabotage yourself. But I enjoy that. 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.920 I enjoy channing and being challenged. I enjoy people doubting. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.040 I think that's what motivates for me, to be honest 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:22.839 with you, to keep on doing all these things that 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.800 no one expected this football guy to do. So I'll 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.080 take it as motivation and I take it as fuel. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.640 I don't feel like I have anything to prove anymore 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.280 to anybody, and now I do things that I love 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.040 to do, and I enjoy doing it and just trying 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.040 to prove to myself that I can accomplish and be 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:39.720 good at something. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.120 What time do you wake up in the morning? 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.640 Five am? Oh, that ain't so bad, not so bad, 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:49.040 you know, Like George wakes up at three three thirty 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.000 and Robin's like four four point thirty, and they're like, oh, 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.640 we meditate. I'm like, well I do too, it's called sleep. 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:03.720 Why why so I wake up at five and it's 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.320 it's a great job, man. I love it. I actually 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.960 enjoy going in. I think moving our studios all the 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.360 way downtown has brought a different kind of vibe and 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:16.400 feeling to it and has reinvigorated everybody there. So it's 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:17.079 a lot of fun. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:21.440 Do you have any moments with Good Morning America? And 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.160 I'll just compare it out for a week, I went 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:24.920 and I hosted The Today Show. I hope that's not a. 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.600 Bad word, but I want to know not at all. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:27.319 I love them. 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.640 I hosted The Today Show and Queen Elizabeth died one 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.120 of the days that I was doing it, and so 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.040 it just it threw everything off, meaning it was like, Okay, 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.040 we had all this planned, but now we're going straight coverage. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.760 It's Queen Elizabeth. Has have any of those big world 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.520 events happened to you where you've had to go all 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.679 right time to you know, just tighten up and we 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:44.800 got to change. 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.600 Oh yeah, absolutely every day. I mean, we we got 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:49.839 a situation going on and you're on right now. So 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.480 it's like you're in the middle of something and something 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.679 happened and it's breaking news and you got to break 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.480 in the show. Get thrown in flux and when you 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.320 first start, oh man, you don't know what's going on, 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.440 your mind just spinning because you've never experienced it. But 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.800 now you kind of get used to it. It's not 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.960 that it's easy, but you're able to calm yourself down 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:14.320 and process everything to get through it. And that's what's 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.320 kind of fun about is the unpredictability of it, because 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.040 if every day is just the same, after a while 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:21.320 you can go in there and be a robot and 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.200 do the job. I'm like, okay, you guys can just 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.760 ai me and I'll stay home. You still get this 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.480 job done. But yeah, you got to be able to 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.760 just move and flex and be flexible with everything. Sometimes 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.200 one of the worst is went out like we're talking, 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:39.319 all of a sudden, you're remote messes up and then Cara, 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:43.720 You're like, we got to probably be right back. The 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.120 panic is real, But it's fun. Man. That's the interesting 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.560 part about my job is that I get to talk 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.960 to interesting people like yourself, get to meet a ton 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:57.360 of people, get to cover world events. So my highlights 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:01.920 I went to to when they coordinate King Charles, I 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.320 did the coordination for ABC. I let the coverage so 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.000 I'm throwing all the raw experts and I have to 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.320 be an expert on the subject myself to go to 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.920 places like Easter Island and cover the Mai statues and 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.600 the ecosystem there. So it's like all these interesting places 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.600 I get to go around the world to cover different 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.640 things and topics and people and animals and everything. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:28.200 It's fantastic the documentary you did about your daughter's fight 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:29.959 against cancer, and I believe that's even in the title 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:35.160 of it, that's that's professional, but it's extremely personal. And 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.559 this is a professional question. But I'm assuming in final 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.280 cuts when you get the decision of what's going to 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.439 be shown, like you're having a balance. This is your 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.359 daughter's journey, and yet it's also being made as a documentary. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.199 To me, what seemed like to allow people to see 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.320 they're not alone, and like to also to show you 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:54.840 know what had happened, but that a lot of folks 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.400 are like, how did you balance that? 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.320 Well, that's all unheard. I'll be honest with you. My 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:04.160 daughter the main because I when when we got the 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.880 diagnosis and she was going through what she was going through, 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:12.280 she couldn't find anybody her age to to communicate with. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.400 To to share, to be comfortable with. So that's why 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.240 she wanted to reach out and like post all these 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.960 blog blogs and do all blogs and do all these things. 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.920 And when they came to when we thought about doing 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.000 the doc, I'll be honest with you, Bobby, I've never 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:29.400 seen it. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.200 Oh still still because it because you lived it or too. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:34.120 It's too hard that much. 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.720 I lived it, and it's too hard to watch and 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.200 be in there every day and senend it every day. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.120 That is one the one project where I said, okay, 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:45.640 if you want to do this, I told her you 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.480 don't have to do this. She wanted to do this 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.760 because she wanted to help other people. So I was 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.640 a one project. So I said handed it to the 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.960 team and said, here you go. This is this is 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:01.240 my baby. Take care of my baby. But I can't. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.360 I can't be involved on a daily and look at this. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.880 But she's been remission, she's you know, checkups are great, 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:14.040 she's back in college. But yeah, it's a very hard. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:15.920 That was a very hard time because I have to 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.000 go to work every day and put on a brave, 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.280 happy face, but yet I know when I go home, 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.680 I'm dealing with a daughter who I have to take 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.560 to get radiation treatments, or I got to go to 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.040 give her you should take her to do her chemo treatment. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.960 So it was, it was it was tough, you know, 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.240 rushing to the hospital at night if she gets the fever, 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.640 and then you know, showing up in the morning and 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.360 acting and being in a way in which, okay that 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:43.200 I can't let my personal side interact with my professional side. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.200 But her putting it out there really did help me 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.240 in a sense that I didn't feel like I feel 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.560 like I could express what was going on with the 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.320 people that were close to me, and I feel like 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.600 I had to hold something back. And because she didn't 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.440 want the world to know, she wanted the world to 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.200 know because she felt it was a good way to 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:01.600 to help other people in the world. 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:03.400 How did you compartmentalize that? 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.360 You know, it's kind of like football a switch. Be 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.680 honest with you, It's like a switch. And it's a 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:15.280 gift in a curse because I can have something serious 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:16.840 and I can block it out and do it, can 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:18.240 do in a moment, and I can go right back 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:19.440 to it, and I can block it out and go 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.760 do other things. It's a gift in a curse. But 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:25.000 in this case it was the gift. And yeah, it 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:29.560 was just compartmentalized then. And I think playing sports, playing 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:33.640 football and having to develop that skill helped in this case. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.320 Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.880 and we're back on the Bobby Cast. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.560 And I spent time going up in Germany. I'd never 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.680 been until recently, and I stopped in Munich and I 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.120 got a hot dog, and I really put I put 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.480 a lot of pressure on that hot dog being good, 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.160 just because you got a broathw was I got it? Yes, 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.119 and so at high, hopes high and I got and 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.639 it met every expectation that I could have ever had. Yes, 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.480 And I talk about it. If anybody's like, you ever 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.560 been to Germany, I'm like, not only have I been 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.480 to Germany, let me tell you about this hot dog 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.160 at a street fair? It was abroad. There's definitely a broade. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.320 So what ages were you there? 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.159 I was. We moved in Germany and when I was nine, 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.640 and then I came back to the States for half 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.320 of my senior year to play football and lived with 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.000 my uncle in Houston for five months, got one football 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.760 scholarship the Texas Southern, got back on the plane in 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.800 December for Christmas and flew back to Germany and graduated 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.240 high school there. So I was there from nine till seventeen, 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:48.280 eighteen years old. My parents stayed until I was twenty seven. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.240 I was in the NFL for a six seven years 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.920 before my parents moved back, So I would still go back. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.159 I'd go see my family. Obviously, I felt when I 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.280 first came back here for high school for that half 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.800 of my senior year, I felt more a German and 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:07.240 European than I felt the American that was home. And yeah, 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:12.080 it was. It was definitely a culture shock to come 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:13.000 back to the States. 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.400 Did you only play American football then? For one year? 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.919 I played one year in high school. Yeah, I had 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:20.520 no idea what I was doing. Man, I was just 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:24.800 like running around getting the guy with the ball just whoever. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:29.080 I had no idea. I knew no technique. I watched 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.840 the game on TV. You know, you just tackle the 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.880 guy with the ball. So if I could do that, 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.800 I got one scholarship and then from there I figured 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.080 it out and I learned, you know, I really learned 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.720 a lot about how to do it. I watched TV, man, 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.679 I would watch NFL games on Sunday. Even when I 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.879 was in college, I'd watch NFL games on Sunday, and 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:50.919 I'm just watching a guy and what he's doing and 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.760 how he's successful at different things. And I remember reading 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.879 in those something and these magazines that needs to have 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.800 the players their size, their weight, all these things, and 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.720 I remember going, I need to be six five two fifty. 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.879 I need to be six five two fifty. And my 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.280 brothers aren't big guys really, And I ended up being 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.920 like sixty five at times in my career, a little 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.720 bit over to fifty other big bone but but by 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:20.600 the end it up. But by by the end of 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.280 the day, I ended up being would always imagine I 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.240 needed to be in order to be successful in the NFL. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:27.080 It's crazy. 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.040 Is there a person, both in sports and in your 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.120 we'll call it your second life in media who believed 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:34.840 in you and you look at that person and go, man, 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:36.320