Speaker 1: Welcome. It is verdicuous.
Speaker 2: Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator, there is
Speaker 2: a big war going on when it comes to free speech,
Speaker 2: not just in this country but around the world, and
Speaker 2: real concerns about what could happen with Harris in charge
Speaker 2: in this country.
Speaker 3: Free speech is under assault. In the United Kingdom, they
Speaker 3: are going after they are sentencing people to jail for
Speaker 3: their social media posts. They are threatening to take that
Speaker 3: enforcement to America to go after Americans. And I'll tell
Speaker 3: you what is really terrifying. As Kamala Harris and Tim
Speaker 3: Waltz are radicals and zealots when it comes to free speech,
Speaker 3: We're gonna break down just how extreme their record is.
Speaker 3: This is the most anti free speech ticket that has
Speaker 3: ever run. At the same time, Kamala Harris's campaign have
Speaker 3: decided on a new strategy. She is gonna run as
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. Suddenly Kamala Harris wants to secure the border.
Speaker 3: Suddenly Kamala Harris loves her some fracking. And suddenly Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris has a brand new idea she cooked up just
Speaker 3: on her own, with no help from anybody else, no
Speaker 3: taxes on tips. We're going to talk about how they're
Speaker 3: trying to gaslight the American people, and we're going to
Speaker 3: contrast it with Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz's radical, extreme record.
Speaker 3: As I said, they are the most extreme ticket ever
Speaker 3: nominated by a major party.
Speaker 4: We're going to break that down right now.
Speaker 2: Things I never thought i'd hear you say that Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris is actually going to be Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: But it is weird when you watch it.
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Speaker 2: today center. This is very interesting, I also think shocking
Speaker 2: and concerning to see what is happening in the UK.
Speaker 2: They are, as you mentioned in the opening, not only
Speaker 2: like spying on people looking at what they're putting online,
Speaker 2: but then deciding, hey, we don't like that, we may
Speaker 2: charge you with crimes and put you in jail.
Speaker 1: And people are actually going to jail in the UK
Speaker 1: for this.
Speaker 4: Well, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: It is frightening in the United Kingdom now that they've
Speaker 3: decided that if you post something they don't like, they
Speaker 3: will arrest you and they'll put you in jail. I
Speaker 3: want you to listen to this British judge as he's
Speaker 3: sentencing this poor brit to twenty months in jail. Twenty months,
Speaker 3: that's almost two years for a Facebook post. He posted
Speaker 3: something on Facebook. The British government didn't like it. They
Speaker 3: sent him to jail.
Speaker 4: Have a listen.
Speaker 5: You have been committed for sentence having pleaded guilty to
Speaker 5: an offense of publishing written material which is threatening, abusive
Speaker 5: or insulting, intending thereby to stir up racial hatred. The
Speaker 5: context of your offending is that it arises out of
Speaker 5: the civil unrest and disorder in many parts of the
Speaker 5: United Kingdom. On the night of the second and third
Speaker 5: of August, the Britannia Hotel in Leeds was attacked by
Speaker 5: people who through missiles which damaged windows. The police were
Speaker 5: called and on the third of August the hotel was
Speaker 5: locked down for the protection of those who were living there.
Speaker 5: At the time, there were two hundred and ten occupants,
Speaker 5: many of whom were foreign refugees and asylum seekers. Similar
Speaker 5: attacks to the hotel were launched on the fourth of August.
Speaker 5: The police attended on each occasion and units were deployed
Speaker 5: to safeguard the hotel and to provide an increase in
Speaker 5: the police presence in the area. In between the two attacks,
Speaker 5: you took to social media in order to encourage others
Speaker 5: towards participation in the attacks upon the hotel. As is
Speaker 5: recognized on your behalf, this offense is so serious that
Speaker 5: an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable. Would you stand please.
Speaker 5: The sentence that I pass has been reduced by one
Speaker 5: third to reflect your guilty plea. The sentence is one
Speaker 5: of twenty months imprisonment. You will serve up to one
Speaker 5: half of your sentence in custody before you are released
Speaker 5: in light on license. If you fail to abide by
Speaker 5: the conditions of your license, you can be returned to
Speaker 5: prison to serve some or all of the remainder of
Speaker 5: the custodial term. The victim surcharge will apply and I
Speaker 5: will make a collection order.
Speaker 2: Two things are shocking there. One at the beginning he
Speaker 2: said what you said was categorizing. He gave a list,
Speaker 2: but then he used the word insulting. So you can
Speaker 2: now go to jail because you post something that is insulting.
Speaker 1: And then he.
Speaker 2: Also says, by the way, you better be glad that
Speaker 2: you pled guilty, which reduced your sentence by one third,
Speaker 2: which was still as you mentioned, twenty months, almost two years.
Speaker 1: This is in the UK, not in Russia.
Speaker 3: So and I will say so this is one of
Speaker 3: the videos. Every video we do, every pod we do
Speaker 3: is released on audio. About a third of the pods
Speaker 3: are also on video. This is one of the ones
Speaker 3: that's on video. So if you're not watching on YouTube,
Speaker 3: if you're watching on YouTube, you saw the guy. And
Speaker 3: I got to say, first of all, the image. If
Speaker 3: you're just listening to it, go watch it. He's wearing
Speaker 3: a red robe. He's got a white wig on.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I gotta say, by the way, you'd look damn fine
Speaker 3: in one of those. You can carry it off, you.
Speaker 4: Know, just a little bit menagement with you.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some bet one day where I have
Speaker 2: to host verdict with a white wig off.
Speaker 3: And look he's sitting there. It is now an a fence.
Speaker 3: Apparently to to post something that that that that that
Speaker 3: could be insulting. So you know, apparently if if you
Speaker 3: play the uh, you know, play a song from Hamilton
Speaker 3: where King George is portrayed as a defeat looking wig
Speaker 3: wearing limey bastard, then apparently that's that that that could
Speaker 3: be justifiable if it's inciting of hate.
Speaker 2: Yes, and what if someone just decides they don't like
Speaker 2: a person online, they say, oh, they incited me to
Speaker 2: do this, and that's why I went out and did this.
Speaker 1: Therefore, go after that guy.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm curious, what do you think of the odds
Speaker 3: that the Brits will enforce that against say, a radical
Speaker 3: Islamic cleric who's calling for Jahad to quote you zero
Speaker 3: percentage zero no, no, no no no, you're not allowed.
Speaker 3: By the way, when people are pointing out the violence
Speaker 3: that is occurring in Britain, if you actually point out
Speaker 3: that you have because of massive immigration into Britain, you
Speaker 3: have violence, many from people who are engaged in acts
Speaker 3: of radical Islamic terrorism. This law is being enforced not
Speaker 3: to stop the violence, but to stop someone from pointing
Speaker 3: out who's committing it. It is literally you know, George
Speaker 3: Orwell was British, and I gotta say Orwell wouldn't be
Speaker 3: surprised he predicted this in nineteen eighty four, the judge saying,
Speaker 3: not saying, we will stop you from pointing something out.
Speaker 3: We will silence you and erase any narrative contrary to
Speaker 3: the regime.
Speaker 2: And by the way, this is a threat not just
Speaker 2: against people that are versuists. There is also a threat
Speaker 2: of going to jail if you're a foreigner who happens
Speaker 2: to offend them as well.
Speaker 3: Oh come on, I love the Brits too much that
Speaker 3: they would never threaten to violate the First Amendment of
Speaker 3: the Constitution with They never never.
Speaker 4: Okay, I want you to listen to this.
Speaker 3: Police chief from England explaining that he's coming after you.
Speaker 3: He's coming after Americans. He's going to cross the pond
Speaker 3: here he comes.
Speaker 4: Give a listen.
Speaker 6: We will throw the false horse at the law of people.
Speaker 6: And whether you're in this country committing crimes on the
Speaker 6: streets or committing crimes from further afield online, we will
Speaker 6: come after.
Speaker 5: You about that.
Speaker 7: Because we have seen some high profile figures whipping up
Speaker 7: the hatred. He talked about it in there with the Offices,
Speaker 7: in fact about this being added to bioline commentary. I mean,
Speaker 7: I'm even thinking of the likes of Elon Musk getting involved.
Speaker 7: What are you considering when it comes to dealing with
Speaker 7: people they're whipping up this kind of behavior from behind
Speaker 7: a keyboard, maybe in a different country.
Speaker 6: Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from
Speaker 6: the law. You can be guilty offenses of incitement stirring
Speaker 6: up racial hatred. There are numerous terrorist offenses regarding the
Speaker 6: publishing of material. All of those offenses are in play
Speaker 6: if people are provoking hatred and violence on the streets,
Speaker 6: and we will come after those individuals, just as we
Speaker 6: will physically confront on the streets the folks and the
Speaker 6: obs who are taking who are causing the promise for communities.
Speaker 2: I love the part at the end, and for people
Speaker 2: that aren't getting to watch this, there's a slide that
Speaker 2: was up at the end this report, and it's a
Speaker 2: warning that happened like on X warning people be careful
Speaker 2: what you post because if you post something we don't like,
Speaker 2: you may go to jail and then ex owner Elon
Speaker 2: Musk who who I just I love you on every
Speaker 2: time I see him just clap back like this made
Speaker 2: ways when he responded to footage of someone allegedly arrested
Speaker 2: for offensive online comments by asking.
Speaker 1: Is this Britain or this Soviet Union? Now?
Speaker 2: To be clear, in an article quote, the crackdown on
Speaker 2: social media includes a threat by the British government to
Speaker 2: extra dight American citizens from the US to be jailed
Speaker 2: in the UK for violating the rules.
Speaker 1: About political free speech.
Speaker 2: So this is my question, Center, if I tweet something
Speaker 2: in America about the UK, could they then come after
Speaker 2: me based on what they're now saying because that offended
Speaker 2: somebody in the UK.
Speaker 3: Well, to be clear, the Chinese communists claim the power
Speaker 3: to do that. Dictators across the world claim the power
Speaker 3: to do that. I am sanctioned in communist China right now.
Speaker 3: They have sanctioned me. Congratulations, I'm quite proud of that.
Speaker 1: What did you do?
Speaker 4: I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I've probably called the murdering, tyrannical communist bastards. But I'm
Speaker 3: sanctioned in China. I think I'm also sanctioned in Iran.
Speaker 3: I can't quite that's a good US. I can't quite
Speaker 3: keep up, and I think the Russians also. But it's
Speaker 3: hard to keep up with how many oppressive regimes have
Speaker 3: sanctioned me. But you know what, I never thought I'd
Speaker 3: put the Brits on that list. You know, I've joked
Speaker 3: Heidi and I Heidi, I like to say Heidi and
Speaker 3: I are a mixed marriage. She's a Francophile, I'm an
Speaker 3: Anglo Phile. I love the Brits. Yeah, and it breaks
Speaker 3: my heart. Look, the Magna Carta is on fire. The
Speaker 3: United Kingdom led the world in championing liberty. But let
Speaker 3: me point out that any britt that wants to extradite
Speaker 3: an American, and by the way, Elon Musk is an
Speaker 3: American citizen. You want to come after Elon, you better
Speaker 3: come through me and the rest of us first. You know,
Speaker 3: we did have a little disagreement with the UK. It was,
Speaker 3: it was minor. It was in a year called seventeen
Speaker 3: seventy six. They tried to tax our tea.
Speaker 2: By the way, I just want to go back in
Speaker 2: history make sure yeah we did, OKAYI did.
Speaker 4: They try to tax our tea.
Speaker 3: We threw that stuff of the Boss and Harbor we
Speaker 3: pulled out our muskets and we whipped their ass and
Speaker 3: became free. And the idea that they would claim, look,
Speaker 3: look it actually it's sad. It it great nations rise
Speaker 3: and fall.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: The United Kingdom has been incredibly important for liberty worldwide.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I could see some lefty picking
Speaker 3: this little exchange and saying, oh, but the Brits were
Speaker 3: slave traders. And it is true the United Kingdom there
Speaker 3: their biggest industry for a period of time was the
Speaker 3: slave trade until incredible heroes like William Wilberforce led the
Speaker 3: fight to abolish the slave trade in the United Kingdom.
Speaker 3: The UK has a great history of fighting for liberty.
Speaker 3: Is it perfect? No, But but whether it it is
Speaker 3: winning World War One and World War Two with America's
Speaker 3: mighty help. Look, there is a reason why in my
Speaker 3: own office in the Senate, I have three busts in
Speaker 3: my office. I have Ronald Reagan, I have Doctor Martin
Speaker 3: Luther King Junior, and I have Winston Churchill because Churchill
Speaker 3: was an extraordinary leader. And by the way, if I
Speaker 3: were to put a fourth bust up, I might put
Speaker 3: Margaret Thatcher up. I mean two of the British leaders
Speaker 3: have been among the most extraordinary leaders the world has
Speaker 3: ever known, and yet to see where the UK is now.
Speaker 3: It's heartbreaking that there's an arrogance and also a loss
Speaker 3: of fundamental identity, a loss of who we.
Speaker 1: Are, and that worries me.
Speaker 2: For this standpoint in America right now, I don't think
Speaker 2: we're that far off from this. I worry about what
Speaker 2: freedom speech in this country. I go back just over
Speaker 2: the last six seven, eight years. You know, you couldn't
Speaker 2: post an article about Hunter Biden's laptop, right that was
Speaker 2: something that like, oh no, no, that's not real. We
Speaker 2: had people in our that were supposed to trust in
Speaker 2: our in our CIA directors and others that came out
Speaker 2: and signed a letter knowing they were lying to the
Speaker 2: American people, and there was no accountability, for example, for
Speaker 2: that saying oh this is something that has the markings
Speaker 2: of Russians. I mean, you look at what's happening this
Speaker 2: country a free speech. I don't think we're that far off,
Speaker 2: especially if you look at Harris and what she says
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: And I want to demonstrate that because look, the most
Speaker 3: important part of this podcast is underscoring you know a
Speaker 3: few years ago if I would have said, uh, the
Speaker 3: UK is going to lock people up for making social
Speaker 3: media posts, you probably would have dismissed that has come
Speaker 3: on that that that they still respect individual liberty too
Speaker 3: much to do that, and now they're doing it. We
Speaker 3: are very close to that in today's Democrat Party. In
Speaker 3: the last few years one of the greatest concerns I've had.
Speaker 4: Is the Democrat Party.
Speaker 3: There used to be principled, passionate defenders of free speech
Speaker 3: and the Democrat Party. They don't exist anymore. And today's
Speaker 3: Democrats have decided that free speech the First Amendment, is
Speaker 3: incompatible with their desire to control you and to silence
Speaker 3: speech they don't like. And today's Democrats being in bed
Speaker 3: with big tech, they view it as a machinery of
Speaker 3: censorship and oppression because power matters more to them than
Speaker 3: free speech. You know, there's a great article Jonathan Turley,
Speaker 3: the great law professor, wrote just a few days ago
Speaker 3: in The Hill and it's entitled, Harris Waltz administration would
Speaker 3: be a nightmare for free speech. And I want you
Speaker 3: to look at Kamala Harrison Tim Waltz's record on free speech,
Speaker 3: because this is the most extreme and radical record on
Speaker 3: free speech of any ticket that has ever run for
Speaker 3: president with a major party. So you look at Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden has made censorship a critical part of his legacy.
Speaker 3: He has accused social media companies of quote, killing people.
Speaker 3: That's Joe Biden for not censoring more so, that's his position.
Speaker 3: If you don't censor, you're killing people. The administration created
Speaker 3: an office like quote, the Disinformation Governance Board. Remember, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the disinformations are led by that wacka who loved musical
Speaker 3: theater and who had these these bizarre, smarmy singing things
Speaker 3: on Twitter, who wanted to silence anyone she disagreed with.
Speaker 3: Thankfully that disbanded because the pushback was was so significant.
Speaker 3: But I want you to listen to Tim Waltz on
Speaker 3: MSNBC what he says about free speech. Give a listen.
Speaker 8: Years ago, it was the little things telling people to
Speaker 8: vote the day after the election, and you know, we
Speaker 8: kind of brush them off. Now we know it's intimidation
Speaker 8: at the ballot box. It's it's undermining the idea that
Speaker 8: mail in ballots aren't legal. I think we need to
Speaker 8: push back on this. There's no guaranteed of free speech.
Speaker 8: On misinformed or hate speech, and especially around our democracy,
Speaker 8: tell the truth, where the voting places are, who can vote,
Speaker 8: who's able to be there, And I you know, watching
Speaker 8: some states continue to weaken the protections around the baut
Speaker 8: I think is what inspiring us to lean into this.
Speaker 9: Again.
Speaker 8: All we're asking is is to make it as easy
Speaker 8: and simple as possible to exercise their right to vote
Speaker 8: and participate in our democracy. And I'm in one hundred
Speaker 8: percent agreement with you. That makes it so that more
Speaker 8: people are there, you get more opinions brought in, and
Speaker 8: I think it tempers that extremes that we get because again,
Speaker 8: I can't imagine someone going and standing in line for
Speaker 8: eight hours to try and vote and then being told that,
Speaker 8: you know, maybe the votes didn't count or maybe something Wronger,
Speaker 8: you have these candidates who lose and are on these
Speaker 8: ridiculous court cases that they keep bringing up and losing on.
Speaker 8: Here in Minnesota, we're going to bring faith back into
Speaker 8: that system. It's already been here. We're very proud that
Speaker 8: we're near the top in voter turnout, but there's more
Speaker 8: that we can do.
Speaker 3: So I want you to hear those words, because that
Speaker 3: is radical. It is idiotic and it is wrong. So
Speaker 3: here's a quote that he just said. Quote, there's no
Speaker 3: guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech, and
Speaker 3: especially around our democracy. Now, that is utter garbage. There
Speaker 3: is a guarantee of free speech. It's called the First
Speaker 3: Amendment to the Constitution. It is in the Bill of Rights.
Speaker 3: And listen to what he said. There's no guarantee on misinformation,
Speaker 3: by the way, and he said, look at these candidates
Speaker 3: who filed lawsuits challenging elections. So apparently he wants to
Speaker 3: go after you and prosecute you if you file a
Speaker 3: lawsuit challenging an election. And he says, for example, misinformation,
Speaker 3: He says, we just want to make sure everyone has
Speaker 3: the right to vote. Well, you know what, mister Waltz,
Speaker 3: I charge that as misinformation because your party tried to
Speaker 3: throw Donald Trump off the ballot in Colorado, Illinois, and Maine.
Speaker 3: You don't just want to make sure everyone has the
Speaker 3: right to vote when you're trying to stop them from
Speaker 3: voting for your opponent. And understand, the only reason that
Speaker 3: didn't succeed is because the Supreme Court unanimously rejected your
Speaker 3: party's assault on democracy. And when he says I can't
Speaker 3: imagine waiting eight hours in line to vote and then
Speaker 3: being told that your vote somehow matters less. Okay, are
Speaker 3: you planning to prosecute Hillary Clinton when she said that
Speaker 3: the election where Donald Trump beater was rigged? It is
Speaker 3: exactly like the Brits. By the way, it is purely
Speaker 3: one sided. You don't see Tim walt saying We're going
Speaker 3: to go after some radical Islamic cleric who is promising
Speaker 3: that you will have seventy two virgins if you just
Speaker 3: go murder innocent people, if you go murder Jews, that
Speaker 3: that will be He would not apply it there. What
Speaker 3: he means is, if you dare say something contrary to
Speaker 3: the regime, you have no right to free speech. That
Speaker 3: is dangerous and it's radical and it's wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's something that people need to understand moving
Speaker 2: forward in this election. This is who they are. Believe
Speaker 2: them when they tell you they are radical. I've said
Speaker 2: that over and over again. If you just look and
Speaker 2: listen to what they're saying, you can see what their
Speaker 2: plan is.
Speaker 3: And the way, by the way, Waltz is not alone.
Speaker 3: Let me give you an example. So Stacey Plaskett, who
Speaker 3: is a Democrat in Congress representing the Virgin Island. She declared, quote,
Speaker 3: I hope that all members recognize that there is speech
Speaker 3: that is not constitutionally perspective protected, referencing hate speech in particular,
Speaker 3: Ben Cardon, Democrat, senator from Maryland, said quote, if you
Speaker 3: espouse hate, you're not protected under the First Amendment. Now,
Speaker 3: if he wrote that, he's a lawyer, if he wrote
Speaker 3: that as a first year law student in constitutional law,
Speaker 3: he would flunk. That's not even a D answer. That
Speaker 3: it's an f answer. By the way, Howard Dean, remember
Speaker 3: former governor Vermont, Democrat, ran for president. Here's what he said. Quote,
Speaker 3: hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment. By
Speaker 3: the way, the Supreme Court, it's a famous case, the
Speaker 3: Skokie case, where they upheld the right of Nazis to
Speaker 3: march in Skokie, Illinois, because the First Amendment protects the
Speaker 3: right to speak, even if what you're saying is hateful.
Speaker 3: And to be clear, I despise Nazis. They are bigoted,
Speaker 3: evil idiots. The First Amendment protects the right of bigoted,
Speaker 3: evil idiots to speak their idiocy. And the response, by
Speaker 3: the way, is not for government to censor them. Not
Speaker 3: for government to lock them up for twenty months, as
Speaker 3: they're doing in the United Kingdom. The response is to
Speaker 3: stand up and say you're Nazis, you're morons. It was
Speaker 3: a great moment, and raiders are the lost dark when
Speaker 3: your faces melted because you are evil and foolish. The answer,
Speaker 3: as John Stuart Mill said, to bad speech, is more speech.
Speaker 3: And by the way, if you don't want to listen
Speaker 3: to me on it, listen to the Supreme Court of
Speaker 3: the United States. Because the position of Tim Waltz, the
Speaker 3: position of all those democrats I quoted, has been directly refuted.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give one example. In the twenty sixteen case
Speaker 3: of Matal versus tam Here's what the Supreme Court wrote.
Speaker 3: Quote this position, rather, this position that hate speech is
Speaker 3: not protected by the First Amendment. Quote strikes at the
Speaker 3: heart of the First Amendment. Speech that demeans on the
Speaker 3: basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, disability, or any
Speaker 3: other similar ground is hateful. But the proudest boast of
Speaker 3: our free speech juris prudence is that we protect the
Speaker 3: freedom to express the thought that we hate. I want
Speaker 3: you to hear that phrase again. The proudest boast of
Speaker 3: our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom
Speaker 3: to express the thought that we hate. By the way,
Speaker 3: Mattal versus TAM was a decision that was unanimous. Nobody
Speaker 3: descended from the judgment. And yet where are the Democrats. Well,
Speaker 3: let's look at Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris on her disasterbly
Speaker 3: failed twenty twenty presidential campaign. Here's what she said. She
Speaker 3: ran on censorship and she pledged quote that her administration
Speaker 3: will hold social media platforms accountable for the hate infiltrating
Speaker 3: their platforms because they have a responsibility to help fight
Speaker 3: against this threat to our democracy. In twenty nineteen, Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris said directly to Mark Zuckerberg, the lead owner of Facebook, quote,
Speaker 3: this is not a matter of free speech. This is
Speaker 3: a matter of holding corporate America and these big tech
Speaker 3: companies respond and accountable for what they are facilitating. Understand,
Speaker 3: Kamala Harrison, Tim Waltz. If they win, they intend to
Speaker 3: go after your free speech. They intend to pressure big
Speaker 3: tech to censor even more. And what they define as
Speaker 3: hate is anything contrary to their agenda. So, for example,
Speaker 3: if you point out, as say hypothetically someone may have
Speaker 3: in Milwaukee at a speech at the Republican National Convention
Speaker 3: to the world that every damn day Americans are being murdered,
Speaker 3: women are being raped, children are being brutalized by illegal aliens.
Speaker 3: That Kamala Harris is releasing in the world of Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris and Tim Waltz, that might be deemed misinformation. Why
Speaker 3: because it's hateful and what do they mean by hateful?
Speaker 3: It's inconvenient for their political agenda, so they want to
Speaker 3: censor it. And maybe not far from the Brits, they
Speaker 3: want to put you in jail for saying it.
Speaker 2: You go back and you think about one thing here.
Speaker 2: The Democrats have been attacking the Supreme Court recently. They
Speaker 2: don't like the Supreme Court very much, so just pack
Speaker 2: it undo.
Speaker 1: That as well.
Speaker 2: It's very interesting how they're playing this out here. It's
Speaker 2: like anything we don't like we want to get rid
Speaker 2: of or redo, we want to change it. They're coming
Speaker 2: after the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, is Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: The list goes on and on from this team.
Speaker 3: And by the way, you know what Benjamin Franklin said
Speaker 3: about this. I'm want to give you a quote from
Speaker 3: Ben Franklin quote in those wretched countries where a man
Speaker 3: cannot call his tongue his own, he can scarce call
Speaker 3: anything his own. Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a
Speaker 3: nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech without
Speaker 3: freedom of thought. There can be no such thing as wisdom,
Speaker 3: and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech,
Speaker 3: which is the right of every man. That statement, Ben Franklin.
Speaker 3: There's a reason Ben Franklin's one hundred dollar bill. There's
Speaker 3: a reason Ben Franklin sat at the Constitutional Convention the
Speaker 3: famed Exchange when Franklin walked out of the Constitutional Convention
Speaker 3: after they drafted the Constitution, and a passerby asked in
Speaker 3: mister Franklin, what have you given us? And he said,
Speaker 3: a republic if you can keep it. I will say,
Speaker 3: with today's radical democrats who have decided free speech is
Speaker 3: inconvenient to their thirst for power, they're doing everything they
Speaker 3: can to give up our republic.
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Speaker 2: back after we have the warning of what just happened
Speaker 2: in the UK, to Harris and Wallace Wells as a ticket. Now, yeah,
Speaker 2: they are a radical ticket that the Democratic Party has
Speaker 2: never seen before. I think that's saying something. We've had
Speaker 2: pretty extremist candidates before they've run. We've never seen a
Speaker 2: dynamic duo like this where it's almost like they try
Speaker 2: to one up each other on how extreme they can go.
Speaker 4: Well, Ben, how could that be true.
Speaker 3: I've seen in the news that Kamala Harris was not
Speaker 3: the borders are that you never had anything to do
Speaker 3: with the border. I've seen in the news how you
Speaker 3: know fracking, Gosh, golly, she just loves her some fracking.
Speaker 3: I've seen in the news now that she has proposals
Speaker 3: straight from from from Donald Trump's tax plan. I mean,
Speaker 3: it is amazing how Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz are
Speaker 3: trying to whitewash their entire record. You go to Kamala
Speaker 3: Harrison Tim Waltz's website, which I don't advise, but there
Speaker 3: are no policy positions on it.
Speaker 1: She's gonna have some though.
Speaker 3: I've never seen a presidential campaign website without policy positions.
Speaker 3: It really is remarkable. And and and and.
Speaker 1: Doing no interviews as well, that's weird.
Speaker 3: And and she's trying to run as the candidate of
Speaker 3: change as the incumbent.
Speaker 2: In fact, there's a great montage that went viral this
Speaker 2: week online and I think it goes exactly the point
Speaker 2: you were making, which is they're constantly changing who they
Speaker 2: are to try to fit what they think will get elected. Now,
Speaker 2: this is brilliant.
Speaker 1: Take a look.
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris pretends she wants to fix the broken border,
Speaker 4: but she has attacked and vilified everyone responsible for enforcing it.
Speaker 9: Clan was what we would call today a domestic terrorist group.
Speaker 10: Are you aware of the perception of many about how
Speaker 10: the power and the discretion at ice is being used
Speaker 10: to enforce the laws and do you see any parallels.
Speaker 9: I do not see any parallels between.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about perceptions and eight. Are you aware that
Speaker 1: there's a perception ICE.
Speaker 9: In the same category as the KKKA.
Speaker 11: We've got to critically re examine ICE and its role
Speaker 11: and the way that it is being administered and the
Speaker 11: work it is doing, and we need to probably think
Speaker 11: about starting from scratch.
Speaker 5: I was the chief of the barbatroal.
Speaker 4: I commanded twenty one thousand people.
Speaker 7: I've never had one conversation with the president or the
Speaker 7: vice president for that matter.
Speaker 1: That's a problem.
Speaker 12: Jensaki, Vice President Kamala Harris others have seized on this
Speaker 12: photo of a border patrol agent on a horse in
Speaker 12: del Rear over the weekend. They say visuals were horrific.
Speaker 11: In their words, I was outraged by it, and it's
Speaker 11: to be consequence and accountability. It also evolved images of
Speaker 11: some of the worst moments of our history where that
Speaker 11: kind of behavior has been used against the indigenous people
Speaker 11: of our country, has been used against African Americans during
Speaker 11: times of slavery at and.
Speaker 13: That is just blatantly false. First off, these agents don't
Speaker 13: have whips. We have a couple of them behind us,
Speaker 13: right now. Look, we'll show it to you. What was
Speaker 13: seen in the photos is they have what are called
Speaker 13: split range.
Speaker 11: The border patrol agents were attacked by the Vice President
Speaker 11: of the United States and now the Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 12: But he had still photos that of course the media
Speaker 12: blew up to mean something that it wasn't.
Speaker 13: But the agents are very frustrated by the narrative out there.
Speaker 12: They threw border patrol members under the bus that you
Speaker 12: are that border patrol member who's being compared by the
Speaker 12: Vice president to a slave owner.
Speaker 11: It was clear from the beginning that they were not
Speaker 11: whipping any migrants. Do you plan to visit the.
Speaker 10: Border not today.
Speaker 2: This is a woman, to be clear, that said we
Speaker 2: needed to just abolish ice and start all over. Now
Speaker 2: she's saying, oh, I'm gonna be tough on the border
Speaker 2: because we got to secure the border. There's the same
Speaker 2: woman that said that the border wall was racist. But
Speaker 2: now the media is like, oh, hey, we got to
Speaker 2: change the narrative here because people are concerned about the border.
Speaker 1: We know it's a presidential election, your issue, and we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna act like somehow, now she's gonna get tough on
Speaker 2: the border. It's absurd, but they're helping her do this
Speaker 2: lie perpetrate this line on the American people.
Speaker 3: And listen, as you know, I spend a lot of
Speaker 3: time at our southern border. I know a lot of
Speaker 3: Border patrol agents very very well. This demonization, she said
Speaker 3: at a hearing, she compared ICE agents to.
Speaker 4: The ku Klux Klan.
Speaker 3: That's grotesque. And and and she compared border patrol agents
Speaker 3: two slave owners whipping African Americans. And by the way,
Speaker 3: that photograph that the press went crazy with, and then
Speaker 3: she eagerly leapt on that photographs, that characterization was wrong,
Speaker 3: that border patrol agent was simply riding his horse. Those
Speaker 3: were the reins, And it was wrongfully characterized that that
Speaker 3: that anybody was being whipped. And I've talked to border
Speaker 3: patrol agents who were deeply offended at the Vice President
Speaker 3: at the administration demonizing the brave men and women who
Speaker 3: risk their lives to keep us safe. She is a
Speaker 3: radical who has consistently argued for abolishing ICE. By the way,
Speaker 3: she's also supported defunding and abolishing the police when it
Speaker 3: comes to law enforcement. Any time, Kamala Harris, you.
Speaker 2: Get people out of jail, by the way, in Minnesota
Speaker 2: who were involved in the riots while they burning down
Speaker 2: the city.
Speaker 3: What's why she and she and Tim Waltz are such
Speaker 3: a good pair because Tim Waltz was governor of Minnesota
Speaker 3: when Minneapolis burned, when Antifa and Black Lives Matter radicals
Speaker 3: were burning the city where fire bombing police cars were
Speaker 3: looting stores, we're attacking police officers were attacking citizens. He
Speaker 3: did nothing. He did not send in the National Guard.
Speaker 3: He held it back. And what did she do? As
Speaker 3: you said, she raised money to bail the violent rioters
Speaker 3: out of jail. Consistently, given the choice between law enforcement
Speaker 3: and criminals, Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz choose the criminals.
Speaker 3: Given a choice between border patrol and ice and illegal immigrants,
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz, they choose the illegal immigrants.
Speaker 3: That's their record, and they're magically trying to make that
Speaker 3: go away.
Speaker 2: You and I were at the Republican convention. You and
Speaker 2: I both had the conversation the last night that we met.
Speaker 2: We were worried that we came out of there too
Speaker 2: confident because it was such a great convention. Everything started
Speaker 2: all over with Kamala Harris. Now be no one's voted for,
Speaker 2: but apparently that doesn't matter. She's the nominee and we're.
Speaker 3: But Tim Waltz said, all they want is democracy.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true.
Speaker 3: But does democracy mean people actually have to vote for
Speaker 3: the candidate or what about the millions of Democrats have
Speaker 3: voted for Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: Do they not have a right to democracy?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Fair point. But you look at this and you
Speaker 1: see where we are now.
Speaker 2: I'm very concerned about this election, and I think it's
Speaker 2: a complete reset. And I'm also very concerned with the
Speaker 2: kind contribution coming from the media. What I mean by
Speaker 2: that perfect example of this is Donald Trump seized on
Speaker 2: something that was very authentic and organic. He was out
Speaker 2: in Vegas, he was having a conversation with people in
Speaker 2: the service industry.
Speaker 1: He had an idea apparently wrote it on a napkin.
Speaker 2: We shouldn't tax tips. Help people survive, help people make
Speaker 2: a living. And he said it at a rally and
Speaker 2: it just work and it stuck and people loved it
Speaker 2: because he was a guy looking out for the little guy.
Speaker 2: He was advocating for these hard working people that rely
Speaker 2: on tips as part of their income, and it obviously
Speaker 2: played well with many people in this country. Fast forward
Speaker 2: a few days ago, kam Way Harris says the same thing.
Speaker 3: Well, and let me give a little more narrative on that.
Speaker 3: So Trump announced it at the Vegas rally. And and
Speaker 3: I think the next week he was in DC and
Speaker 3: I had lunch with him. He had lunch with all
Speaker 3: the Republican senators. He was actually telling us the backstory
Speaker 3: of it, and and and he said, well, you know,
Speaker 3: this was not an idea that came from a bunch
Speaker 3: of policy experts that had a bunch of white papers.
Speaker 4: He said he.
Speaker 3: Was in Vegas right before the rally, and he said
Speaker 3: he was having I think lunch or dinner.
Speaker 4: I think it was lunch.
Speaker 3: And he said there was a waitress who came up
Speaker 3: who complained about the really oppressive enforcement from Joe Biden
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris of their efforts to tax tips and how
Speaker 3: it was really burdened some of the record keeping and
Speaker 3: it was really hard. And and Trump says, at dinner,
Speaker 3: pulled out a piece of paper and just wrote down
Speaker 3: no taxes on tips. And then he said he went
Speaker 3: to the rally and he just said it, and he said, and.
Speaker 4: They went wild, they went wild.
Speaker 3: I got to say there are moments I think of
Speaker 3: political genius, and I think that was one of them.
Speaker 3: So the next week I introduced legislation in the Senate
Speaker 3: to exempt tips from taxes because I heard that idea
Speaker 3: and it's exactly right. And the reason I introduced legislation.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of reasons, but one right at
Speaker 3: the heart is for over a decade, for as long
Speaker 3: as I've been in the Senate, I have been advocating
Speaker 3: that the Republican Party, we should be a blue collar party.
Speaker 3: We should be the party of waiters and waitresses. We
Speaker 3: should be the party of bartenders. We should be the
Speaker 3: party of hairdressers and nail salon workers and taxi cab
Speaker 3: drivers and and and everyone who has callouses on their
Speaker 3: hands because they're working hard, and it is a policy.
Speaker 3: The contrast is night and day. That's who we should
Speaker 3: be fighting for. And you know it's striking. I introduced
Speaker 3: that legislation. It's got a number of co sponsors. You
Speaker 3: know who also joined it. Here's that both Democrat senators
Speaker 3: from Nevada, really Jackie Rosen and Catherine Cortez Masto, both
Speaker 3: joined my legislation. Because about twenty five percent of the
Speaker 3: workers in Nevada are tipped workers. And I got to
Speaker 3: say my reaction when I heard him make that proposal,
Speaker 3: I said, Donald Trump will carry Nevada on that policy issue.
Speaker 3: By the way, the culinary union has come out emphatically
Speaker 3: in support of Trump's proposal, emphatically in support of my
Speaker 3: legislation exempting tips from taxes. And so this week here's
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. I want you to give a listen, first
Speaker 3: to Trump in Nevada announcing the policy proposal, and then
Speaker 3: Kamala just shamelessly copying him.
Speaker 8: Give a listen, because when I get to office, we
Speaker 8: are going to not charge taxes on tips people make tips.
Speaker 11: Eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just straight up stealing. But I do
Speaker 1: think so.
Speaker 4: June ninth is when Trump said it.
Speaker 3: August tenth is when she said it, and she didn't
Speaker 3: have the dignity to say, you know, I actually would
Speaker 3: have respected it more as she says, Look, there are
Speaker 3: lots of areas where I disagree with Donald Trump. I'm
Speaker 3: a left wing Democrat kook.
Speaker 4: He's not.
Speaker 3: However, he had an idea that's a really good one,
Speaker 3: and I'm here to tell you right now would this,
Speaker 3: I would do the same that I could respect. But
Speaker 3: she doesn't acknowledge it. And the irony is she also
Speaker 3: doesn't acknowledge what prompted it, which is that her administration,
Speaker 3: the Biden Harris administration, she was the tie breaking vote
Speaker 3: on the legislation that provided millions for the IRS to
Speaker 3: go after waiters and waitresses and everyone's who's making tips
Speaker 3: and to enforce it vigorously and to hammer on them.
Speaker 3: And yet she doesn't acknowledge any of that. This is gaslighting,
Speaker 3: one on one.
Speaker 2: This is why, by the way, I love doing the show,
Speaker 2: and I will say to everybody that right now listening
Speaker 2: or watching, this is when I ask you share it.
Speaker 1: And here's why.
Speaker 2: Know when the media is going to tell you this
Speaker 2: in February, because what you're just said.
Speaker 1: Is not something ten years ago. And then she had
Speaker 1: a change of heart.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not like it was a polic ten years ago,
Speaker 2: and there was some negative effects came out of it
Speaker 2: that you didn't realize, and then you're like, hey, look
Speaker 2: that was a long time ago, decade ago.
Speaker 1: In February of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: It came to light that Biden's IRS planned to crack
Speaker 2: down on the service industries reporting on tips. The Service
Speaker 2: Industry Tip Compliance Agreement Program was to be a voluntary
Speaker 2: tip reporting system in which the IRS and the service
Speaker 2: industry companies cooperated, which is where they would crackdown on
Speaker 2: the actual workers. The program was meant to quote improve
Speaker 2: tip reporting compliance, reduce administrative burdens, and provide more transparency
Speaker 2: and certainty to tax payers, again going after the little
Speaker 2: guy here. And the program feature included quote monitoring of
Speaker 2: employer compliance based on actual annual tip revenue, So big
Speaker 2: brother watching you and charge tip data from an employer's
Speaker 2: point of sales system, so now the computer's tracking you.
Speaker 2: And allowance for adjustments in tipping practices from year to
Speaker 2: year to protect the employer from getting in trouble by
Speaker 2: turning in in essence their employees. And who did this,
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. And now she's out there
Speaker 2: saying I want you to not have to pay taxes
Speaker 2: on your tips, when again, twenty twenty three February wasn't
Speaker 2: that long ago?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, this is a standard practice and pattern
Speaker 3: of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris siding with the big guy
Speaker 3: siding with giant corporations, whether it's big tech or giant
Speaker 3: corporations against the little guy. You know, there was an
Speaker 3: interesting story this same lunch where Trump was telling us
Speaker 3: the backstory of this proposal.
Speaker 4: The day before the.
Speaker 3: Lunch, Trump and Lindsey Graham had played golf, and Lindsey
Speaker 3: told everyone, he said, look, the two of us were
Speaker 3: playing golf, and they're both big golfers, and you know, look,
Speaker 3: your son is one of the best golfers in the world.
Speaker 3: But Lindsey described how midway through the golf game, he said,
Speaker 3: their two caddies came up and hugged Donald Trump because
Speaker 3: he had just made the proposal of no taxes on tips.
Speaker 3: And listen, golf caddies like barbers, like bartenders. There there
Speaker 3: were all sorts of professions where a big chunk of
Speaker 3: their revenue and many of them were just barely making
Speaker 3: ends meet. They're just starting to climb the economic ladder,
Speaker 3: and they literally came and hugged him for that proposal.
Speaker 3: And so Kamala Harris is now trying to pretend, Look,
Speaker 3: I'm glad she's supporting my legislation. I got to say,
Speaker 3: this is a first. I do not believe Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: as ever before publicly endorsed legislation that I filed and
Speaker 3: am the lead author of. Now, she didn't mention it
Speaker 3: was my legislation. She didn't mention it was Trump's idea.
Speaker 3: And to be clear, I took the idea from Trump.
Speaker 3: It was his idea and ran with it. I just
Speaker 3: had the sense of saying, that's a damn good idea,
Speaker 3: let's do it. And so I went and put pen
Speaker 3: to paper to actually draft it to make it happen.
Speaker 3: But but but I readily credit it was Trump's idea.
Speaker 3: Kamala could not be bothered to acknowledge anything other than
Speaker 3: pretending this has always been her view.
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Speaker 2: a running mate look like they're moderates, like they're not extremists,
Speaker 2: they're not radicals, even though their entire history says that's
Speaker 2: exactly what they are.
Speaker 3: Look I want you to listen to two clips that
Speaker 3: really sums up just how extreme they are. The first
Speaker 3: is from Tim Waltz and he's talking about his fellow
Speaker 3: Minnesota ilhan Omar. To be clear, illhan Omar is one
Speaker 3: of the founding members of the Squad. She is a radical,
Speaker 3: anti Semiti, she hates Israel. She is extreme. Listen to
Speaker 3: what Tim Waltz thinks about.
Speaker 8: Her something I'll never get tired of saying. I think
Speaker 8: all of you, Congresswoman Omar, wonderful.
Speaker 6: And that's up.
Speaker 8: When I'm having a tough day or I'm out on
Speaker 8: about mile five of my run and I'm feeling kind
Speaker 8: of down and the world's pressing on me, I think
Speaker 8: Ilhan Omar is a congresswoman and it just brightens you up.
Speaker 10: So thank you.
Speaker 2: I just wonder like mile three is he's sitting there
Speaker 2: thinking about that's the same congressman that said that the
Speaker 2: terrorists that attacked us on nine eleven were some people
Speaker 2: that did some things.
Speaker 3: Look, Ilhan Omar is a congresswoman, and that's something that
Speaker 3: just brightens you up.
Speaker 4: That's what he said.
Speaker 3: This is everyone will acknowledge one of the most radical
Speaker 3: and extreme is zealous, and that brightens his day. That
Speaker 3: tells you who he is. Now, if you think that's bad,
Speaker 3: I got something worse.
Speaker 4: Do you like Christmas?
Speaker 1: Love Christmas?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well you're not Kamala Harris. Give a listen to Kamala.
Speaker 11: When we all sing happy tunes and sing Merry Christmas
Speaker 11: and wish each other merry Christmas, these children are not
Speaker 11: going to have a merry Christmas. How dare we speak
Speaker 11: Merry Christmas? How dare we.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen somebody get that crazy about hating Christmas
Speaker 2: in a long time.
Speaker 3: And understand what she's saying. They're in context. She's talking
Speaker 3: about illegal immigrants, and she's saying illegal immigrants are having
Speaker 3: a lousy time. So how dare we say Merry Christmas? Immigrants?
Speaker 4: I mean it is.
Speaker 3: This is a woman whose entire career has been siding
Speaker 3: with criminals and with illegal immigrants, and in her mind,
Speaker 3: even saying Merry Christmas is unacceptable as long as there
Speaker 3: is one illegal immigrant.
Speaker 4: Who was not backs basking in luxury.
Speaker 3: All right, final point before we wrap up, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: make a prediction. So eleven months ago, on Verdict, I
Speaker 3: predicted that the Democrats would throw Joe Biden off the ticket.
Speaker 4: You were you were correct.
Speaker 1: Let's have that moment.
Speaker 4: At the time many in the media.
Speaker 3: I do too. It wasn't what I wanted to have happened.
Speaker 3: It was a prediction. And by the way, over the
Speaker 3: eleven months, I gave a a scaling set of odds
Speaker 3: that increased as we got closer and closer and closer.
Speaker 3: The night of the debate between Trump and Biden. You
Speaker 3: and I recorded a podcast immediately after the debate. I
Speaker 3: said that night, the Democrats, we'll push Joe Biden off.
Speaker 3: I put the odds at one hundred percent at the time,
Speaker 3: and they did, and they did. So I'm going to
Speaker 3: make another prediction, and it's not one that I want
Speaker 3: to have happen. I'm gonna put the odds at forty
Speaker 3: percent that Joe Biden resigns between now an election.
Speaker 2: Day, really forty percent, so that they can see her
Speaker 2: as president's or it'll be easier to get her elected.
Speaker 4: That's exactly right.
Speaker 3: So that Kamala Harris is the incumbent president, she is
Speaker 3: running for a reelection. I still think it is sixty forty.
Speaker 3: They don't that Biden's high. That that Biden they pushed
Speaker 3: him out, They pushed him out. I think he's pretty ticked.
Speaker 3: He'd have to go along with it. But I think
Speaker 3: there are going to be very serious discussions in the
Speaker 3: White House by all the partisans whose paycheck is written
Speaker 3: by continuing the regime. Everyone who stays in power is
Speaker 3: going to say, you know, now, if you say your
Speaker 3: health has reached a point that you need to step aside,
Speaker 3: which clearly it has. Of course it had a year ago,
Speaker 3: two years ago, three years ago, four years ago. But
Speaker 3: if you say that and she's the sitting president from
Speaker 3: the Democrat perspective, I think they would say it increases
Speaker 3: our chances of her winning, and we want to win,
Speaker 3: and they put winning above everything else. I don't think
Speaker 3: it's greater than fifty to fifty, but I think it
Speaker 3: is a very real possibility right now today.
Speaker 1: I don't like that prediction.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I don't I don't either. I
Speaker 3: don't want it to come true.
Speaker 2: It gives it like it gives her a huge advantage,
Speaker 2: huge advantages.
Speaker 3: Which is why I think they will have a very
Speaker 3: serious discussion. I think if they can bully Joe Biden
Speaker 3: into doing it, it'll happen.
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Speaker 2: You never know what predictions may come out
Speaker 1: Of the show.