Speaker 1: All right, guys, have a whole lot of breaking news
Speaker 1: for you with regards to the Biden campaign deathwatch. Things
Speaker 1: seem to be moving very quickly, which is why I
Speaker 1: wanted to get this video out for you this evening.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to go through you for you all
Speaker 1: of the latest reporting that we have. But the TLDR
Speaker 1: is bunch of sources, bunch of networks saying that he
Speaker 1: could be dropping out of the race as early as
Speaker 1: the next few days. Cautionary note, none of this is final.
Speaker 1: None of this is saying it's completely determinative. But you
Speaker 1: add this to some of the things we reported in
Speaker 1: the show today about Schumer, Pelosi, Jeffries. Now we have
Speaker 1: new reporting about Obama all making aggressive moves against Biden,
Speaker 1: fundraising all but drying up, and he himself opening the
Speaker 1: door to a potential exit. And it sure is starting
Speaker 1: to look like the writing is on the wall. So
Speaker 1: let me go ahead and put this first report. This
Speaker 1: really broke things open earlier today from Axios, the headline
Speaker 1: here behind the curtain top Dems now believe Biden will exit.
Speaker 1: Let me read you a decent bit of this report
Speaker 1: so you can hear everything they're saying here the way
Speaker 1: they're phrasing it. In all of that, they say, several
Speaker 1: top Democrats privately tell us the rising pressure of party
Speaker 1: congressional leaders and close friends will persuade President Biden to
Speaker 1: decide to drop out of the presidential race as soon
Speaker 1: as this weekend. So they go on to talk about
Speaker 1: how the eighty one year old president is now self isolating. Privately,
Speaker 1: he is resigned to mounting pressure, bad polls, and untenable
Speaker 1: scrutiny making it impossible to continue his campaign. The Democrats
Speaker 1: tell us the private message distilled to its bluntest form.
Speaker 1: The top leaders of his party, his friends, and key
Speaker 1: donors believe he cannot win, can't change public perceptions of
Speaker 1: his age and acuity, and can't deliver congressional majorities. The
Speaker 1: president is being told that if he stays in, former
Speaker 1: President Trump could win an a landslide and wipe away
Speaker 1: Biden's legacy and Democrats hopes in November. They go on
Speaker 1: to say the pressure to step aside has been rising
Speaker 1: to intolerable levels, especially over the past few days. Democrats
Speaker 1: fully expect polls after the RNC to show a possible
Speaker 1: blowout that could bring down Democrats in Congress too, And
Speaker 1: the way that it is being framed is his choice
Speaker 1: is to be one of history's heroes. Wouldn't really say
Speaker 1: that myself when you are committing a genocide, but will
Speaker 1: put that aside or to be sure of the fact
Speaker 1: that there will never be a Biden presidential library, one
Speaker 1: of the president's close friends told us, I pray he
Speaker 1: does the right thing. He is headed that way. They
Speaker 1: go on to recount some of the reporting when brought
Speaker 1: to you earlier about Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries, Obama, apparently Bill
Speaker 1: and Hillary Clinton also making moves behind the scenes and
Speaker 1: keeping quiet and not throwing him any sort of a
Speaker 1: lifeline publicly, which is also very notable. They go on
Speaker 1: to give some reality check here at the end, Biden
Speaker 1: can't be forced out, and he has the delegates. No
Speaker 1: one can physically pry them away. He needs to do
Speaker 1: it by choice and on his terms. But when you
Speaker 1: have this level of pressure, every Democratic power broker remaining
Speaker 1: in the party moving against you publicly, now leaking to
Speaker 1: the press and coming out against you when you have
Speaker 1: and I'll let me go ahead and put this next
Speaker 1: piece up on the screen, because this says from NBC
Speaker 1: News and contains this reporting When you have fundraising all
Speaker 1: but drying up, how in the world are you going
Speaker 1: to try to persist? So NBC News sort of similar
Speaker 1: reporting this from the perspective of those who are surrounding Biden,
Speaker 1: who are realizing it's not an if but a When
Speaker 1: the headline here, We're close to the end, Biden world
Speaker 1: braces for the possibility that the president will step aside.
Speaker 1: This recounts, you know, the sense from within Biden world.
Speaker 1: They say there's a palpable sense the ground has shifted
Speaker 1: underneath him. According to five people with knowledge of the situation,
Speaker 1: even among some of the president's most defiant internal backers,
Speaker 1: who now believe the writing is on the wall, we
Speaker 1: are close to the end, close to the end. A
Speaker 1: person close to Biden said that person who previously doubted
Speaker 1: Biden would ever step aside acknowledge that it's still the
Speaker 1: president's decision, but joined in the array of Biden allies
Speaker 1: who say he is nearing a point of no return.
Speaker 1: If you read on in this article, they say that
Speaker 1: the fund raising drop has been more precipitous than anyone
Speaker 1: could have imagined. A person with knowledge that the Biden
Speaker 1: campaign now expects it will raise only twenty five percent
Speaker 1: of the big donor money it had originally projected to
Speaker 1: raise in July. That's a further downgrade. Originally they were
Speaker 1: expecting it would be down by fifty percent, which is
Speaker 1: still horrific. Now they're saying they will only raise it'll
Speaker 1: be down seventy five percent, So they'll only raise twenty
Speaker 1: five percent of the big donor money that they had
Speaker 1: planned on. And grassroots donations have all but dried up
Speaker 1: as well. So you've got the money gone, You've got Bill, Hillary, Obama, Schumer, Jeffries,
Speaker 1: Pelosi all moving against him. You have him seemingly somewhat
Speaker 1: receptive now and increasing reporting that a decision could come
Speaker 1: this weekend or I haven't even seen suggestions even possibly before,
Speaker 1: but the sourcing on those were a little flimsy. Let
Speaker 1: me goe and put the next I'm just going to
Speaker 1: go through everything that we've seen today so you can
Speaker 1: get a sense of what we know and where we're at.
Speaker 1: This is again Democrats expect Biden to at least indicate
Speaker 1: this weekend that he's dropping out, and if he doesn't
Speaker 1: indicate it soon, expect more leaks and calls for him
Speaker 1: to step aside from members of Congress. In short, the
Speaker 1: beatings will continue until morale improves. So this is noteworthy because,
Speaker 1: first of all, once again lays not that timeline of
Speaker 1: by this weekend there's at least going to be some
Speaker 1: indication that he is dropping out, and that if we
Speaker 1: don't get that indication, then it's not like the movement
Speaker 1: against him is going to end. It's going to ramp up,
Speaker 1: it's going to escalate. It's going to continue until he
Speaker 1: makes the decision that they all want him to make.
Speaker 1: You know, that's always been the subtext when Pelosi in
Speaker 1: particular goes on TV and says we want to give
Speaker 1: him time to make the decision. In the host say, well,
Speaker 1: he said, he's already made his decision. We want to
Speaker 1: give him time to make the decision they want him
Speaker 1: to make. So they're going to continue pushing until he
Speaker 1: decides to drop out of the race. So that's what's
Speaker 1: really significant about that reporting in particular. Let's see the
Speaker 1: next one, because we do have more reporting of a
Speaker 1: hair about Barack Obama, which is also significant. This is
Speaker 1: from the Washington Post. Barack Obama has told allies in
Speaker 1: recent days that Biden's path to victory is greatly diminished,
Speaker 1: and he thinks the President needs to seriously consider the
Speaker 1: viability of his candidacy. Now, this isn't a surprise. We
Speaker 1: talked to you before about how the Clooney op ed,
Speaker 1: the George Clooney op ed that had been run by Obama.
Speaker 1: Clearly Obama's fingerprints were all over that when George Clooney
Speaker 1: being a close ally. The fact that from the beginning
Speaker 1: you've had David Axelrod and the podse Bros. These are
Speaker 1: all Obama people who were forcefully making the case against
Speaker 1: Joe Biden have always been an indication of where Barack
Speaker 1: Obama actually stands. What is noteworthy about these new reports
Speaker 1: that have been coming out, you know, the floodgates have
Speaker 1: really opened up, is this very clear coordination between all
Speaker 1: of these individuals who appear to have attempted to make
Speaker 1: the case behind the scenes so that it could appear
Speaker 1: that Biden came to this decision on his own. When
Speaker 1: that didn't work, there appears to be this coordinated now
Speaker 1: campaign to pressure him from Obama and Pelosi at al
Speaker 1: to leave the race. And that's the pressure campaign that
Speaker 1: you've seen, you know, it was put on freeze for
Speaker 1: a couple of days, really not very long during you know,
Speaker 1: in the wake of the President Trump assassination attempt. Now
Speaker 1: it is back on knives around all out war to
Speaker 1: try to get him out. And they clearly have bought
Speaker 1: plat past like a point of no return. There's no
Speaker 1: tiptoeing around it at this point. They're leaking, and it's
Speaker 1: only expected to get more aggressive until he ultimately relents.
Speaker 1: They've clearly come to the determination that it is unsustainable
Speaker 1: for him to be in the race and an utter
Speaker 1: disaster for the Democratic Party, not just at the presidential level,
Speaker 1: but at every level. I'll give you CNN did some
Speaker 1: reporting here earlier in the day with what their sources
Speaker 1: are saying. Let me go ahead and play a bit
Speaker 1: of this for you.
Speaker 2: Well, Dana, what we know is that some of the
Speaker 2: most important conversations about President Biden's future are still happening
Speaker 2: behind closed doors. But we are learning about conversation between
Speaker 2: former House Speaker at Nancy Pelosi and President Biden that
Speaker 2: took place as recently as in the last week or so,
Speaker 2: where Nancy Pelosi told the president that polling shows that
Speaker 2: he cannot defeat Donald Trump in November and that he
Speaker 2: could take down the House with him if he continues
Speaker 2: seeking us I in term and more forces have told
Speaker 2: us is that the President responded with defensiveness and essentially
Speaker 2: saying to Pelosi, I have seen polls that show that
Speaker 2: I can in fact win and really just push back.
Speaker 2: And at one point in the conversation we'd told Pelosi
Speaker 2: asked that Mike donaldind the presidents senior advisor, get on
Speaker 2: the phone so that they can all have a discussion
Speaker 2: about the data. A non of our sources, Dana importantly
Speaker 2: said whether Pelosi, in this without private conversation, told the
Speaker 2: President explicitly that she believes that he needs to drop out.
Speaker 3: Of the race.
Speaker 2: And I will also say this marks the second known
Speaker 2: conversation between the President and Pelosi since the debate. We
Speaker 2: know that they also spoke in early July and ask
Speaker 2: for how the two camps are responding. Officially, the White
Speaker 2: House wouldn't comment on this conversation, but they did put
Speaker 2: out a statement saying President Biden is the nominee of
Speaker 2: the party and he plans to win. A Pelosi spokesperson
Speaker 2: interestingly said Pelosi has been in California since Friday, and
Speaker 2: she has not spoken to Biden since.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: One thing that is really clear from this reporting data
Speaker 2: that I think is worth highlighting is how the President
Speaker 2: has appeared really dug in when it comes to the
Speaker 2: polling and the data. You know, we've heard him saying
Speaker 2: in public, look, i think I'm doing okay still in
Speaker 2: the polls, and it's clear that he genuinely does believe
Speaker 2: this in private settings as well.
Speaker 3: And you know, you know better than.
Speaker 2: Anyone, Danna, how important of a course Nancy Pelosi is
Speaker 2: inside the party. She has such incredible sway she understands
Speaker 2: exactly where the caucus is on any political issue. And
Speaker 2: she did sort of leave open the door recently when
Speaker 2: she said in an interview it's up to the president
Speaker 2: to decide if he's going to run. And I think
Speaker 2: a huge question right now is will she get to
Speaker 2: the point at some point where she says in public
Speaker 2: that yes, it's up to him, but she believes that
Speaker 2: he needs to set aside.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm Jay, thank you so much for that important reporting.
Speaker 3: And Jeff allenly I want to turn out to you.
Speaker 3: You pained a memo sent to Democratic officials that down
Speaker 3: ballot Democrats can't afford politically to defend Biden's fitness for office.
Speaker 3: Jeff tell us more about that.
Speaker 4: Then, as these calls for President Biden to reconsider his
Speaker 4: candidacy really intensify, both behind and the scenes and in public,
Speaker 4: we're getting a better sense of why that is and
Speaker 4: why these leaders are making the argument. In that memo
Speaker 4: that you talked about there from a Blue Research, a
Speaker 4: democratic research firm really shared widely throughout the party, it
Speaker 4: talks about the damage this is having for Democrats down ballot.
Speaker 4: I'm told that the Homer Housepapernancyploszy reads this pulling very carefully,
Speaker 4: as of course do many other leaders. And as we've
Speaker 4: looked through this, yes, it talks about the expanding presidential
Speaker 4: battle brand now, but it also talks about the potential
Speaker 4: damage it's been inflicted on individual Democratic candidates. And take
Speaker 4: a look at this really poignant sentence here inside the memo.
Speaker 4: It says defending Biden's fitness for office is an untenable
Speaker 4: position for down ballot Democrats. It goes on to say
Speaker 4: that the honesty and the trustworthiness of these Democratic candidates
Speaker 4: in the House will be questioned. Voters will start to
Speaker 4: have second thoughts about them if they keep defending President Biden.
Speaker 4: Of course this is reflective also.
Speaker 1: So there you go both reporting on. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a really interesting nugget from the Pelosi meeting that when
Speaker 1: Biden starts talking about no, I don't think the poll numbers,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's show that Jack. I think it's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. And Pelosi says, let's get Mike Donaldin
Speaker 1: on the phone to talk this through, because she feels
Speaker 1: that Biden is being effectively lied to about the state
Speaker 1: of the race, that his old and adult mind is
Speaker 1: buying the lies because he wants to believe them, and
Speaker 1: she wanted to get to the source of the person
Speaker 1: who was providing him with this bad information, and that
Speaker 1: is his very long time political advisor, Mike Donaldan, possibly
Speaker 1: among others. But she says, let's get donaldin on the
Speaker 1: phone and let's talk about these poll numbers. The information
Speaker 1: there from Jeff Sellini also really interesting about Okay, well,
Speaker 1: why did they decide to take what is the extraordinary
Speaker 1: action again the incumbent president Actually that they have themselves
Speaker 1: completely blocked. Remember, these are people who very easily could
Speaker 1: have created the conditions to have a real primary, so
Speaker 1: that we could have done this through sub democratic process.
Speaker 1: But instead they completely blocked a democratic primary, held no debates,
Speaker 1: canceled literally canceled the primary in multiple states across the country,
Speaker 1: and just came out and said, Simon Sanders came out
Speaker 1: and said on MSNBC, we have an incumbent president. We
Speaker 1: are not going to have a primary process. So these
Speaker 1: are the same people who could have facilitated that process.
Speaker 1: They blocked that, leaving it outside of a possible real
Speaker 1: democratic means and creating these conditions. Now where the writing
Speaker 1: is on the wall, they realize how completely screwed they are,
Speaker 1: not only in terms of blocking Trump, but in terms
Speaker 1: of every single Democratic candidate being tied to this sinking ship.
Speaker 1: The point there, I think is a really critical one,
Speaker 1: and I think it's one that you know, AOC and
Speaker 1: Bernie and other lefties who are out there defending Biden
Speaker 1: should think about, which is, how can voters trust you
Speaker 1: when you're not being straight with him about the health
Speaker 1: condition of this man, in his ability to lead the
Speaker 1: ticket at the top, How can they have trusted you
Speaker 1: for anything else? So I do think there is a
Speaker 1: real sense that the more closely you're tied to the
Speaker 1: Biden administration, the poor, the political position you're going to
Speaker 1: be in. So would there be some ticket splitting in
Speaker 1: the fault? Sure? Would some of the Senate candidates potentially
Speaker 1: who appear to be running ahead of Biden the polls
Speaker 1: right now, with some of them survive, maybe, But are
Speaker 1: you going to hold the Senate? No, not a chance.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's already the longest of long shots for
Speaker 1: Democrats to be able to hold the Senate and the
Speaker 1: House where they actually do have a decent chance if
Speaker 1: they have a decent presidential candidate at the top of
Speaker 1: the ticket, that is also gone, bye bye, forget about it,
Speaker 1: based on the numbers they're seeing and how Biden drives
Speaker 1: down absolutely every Democrat in the entire country. We had
Speaker 1: a tweet here from Ezraklin sort of summing up the
Speaker 1: state of play from how he sees it and based
Speaker 1: on his sourcing, and so it's interesting how he lays
Speaker 1: this out here. He says where things stand. Top Dems
Speaker 1: who believed even a week ago Biden would stay now
Speaker 1: believe he'll go. Note on that, I just saw the
Speaker 1: predicted markets they're betting like ninety percent. Now that Biden
Speaker 1: is going to get out of the race. Number two,
Speaker 1: House and Senate Dems have lost faith in his ability
Speaker 1: to win. There's no way to win them back. His
Speaker 1: calls and interviews have hurt him badly. Confirmed that the
Speaker 1: debate was not a one off. So in spite of
Speaker 1: all that, oh my god, the NATO big boy press
Speaker 1: conference was so amazing. In reality, they were looking there
Speaker 1: like you introduced Zelenski as putin, you called Harris vice
Speaker 1: president Trump. The press conference was not, in fact masterful,
Speaker 1: in spite of the spin that was put on it
Speaker 1: by the media after the fact. And by the way,
Speaker 1: by the time they got to that point, they were
Speaker 1: already convinced that he was unfit and incapable of steering
Speaker 1: this ship. Number three donors are also gone. Biden may
Speaker 1: well not have the money to run a real campaign
Speaker 1: against Trump. If he stays in, money will go down ballot.
Speaker 1: Imagine that. Imagine he stays in and he has no
Speaker 1: money in order to run ads. Right now, part of
Speaker 1: what's keeping him afloat at all is dramatically out spending
Speaker 1: Trump in the battleground states, and you know, put these
Speaker 1: punishing ads and about abortion in particular. Imagine there's no
Speaker 1: money to do that. How badly that's going to go
Speaker 1: for him. Number Four, Biden is thinking things over in
Speaker 1: a way he wasn't before, and the view is he
Speaker 1: needs time to process and consider. He's at home self
Speaker 1: isolating in Rehopeth right now as we speak, so they're
Speaker 1: hoping that is the time he needs to process and consider.
Speaker 1: Number Five. If Biden digs in after the weekend, public
Speaker 1: pressure from Dems will increase ugly in a way no
Speaker 1: one wants, but a lot of grim determination also growing
Speaker 1: sensitive Biden stays in, this will come to be seen
Speaker 1: as the kind of political catastrophe you do not want
Speaker 1: to later be seen as silent in I've been making.
Speaker 1: You know, these people who think that they're being clever
Speaker 1: politically by standing by Biden, and there's the smart political
Speaker 1: move and will set them up for their twenty twenty
Speaker 1: eight ambitions or whatever. What a bunch of fools, What
Speaker 1: a bunch of fools. Everyone is going to look at
Speaker 1: this in the future and say where were you on
Speaker 1: this question and what did you do? Because to stand
Speaker 1: by Biden in this moment is just an act of complete,
Speaker 1: you know, political malpractice, and if you are democratic minded
Speaker 1: if you really believe Trump is a threat, which I do,
Speaker 1: then it's also just an incredible betrayal of the rhetoric
Speaker 1: and what Democrats have been saying for years and years
Speaker 1: about this guy, that when it came down to it,
Speaker 1: they weren't willing to do what it takes to put
Speaker 1: forward a candidate that actually had a shot at winning.
Speaker 1: Number six. The moment Biden bows out, he will be
Speaker 1: treated as a hero among Democrats, a statesman who made
Speaker 1: the kind of country and party first decision that Trump
Speaker 1: never would. People get that this is hard. He's being
Speaker 1: asked to do something very few leaders do. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I really am sick of hearing what a hero Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: who's doing a genocide, is, But I have no doubt
Speaker 1: he is correct that that is exactly how we will
Speaker 1: be treated and discussed among Democrats. Number seven, uniting around
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris feels a lot likelier than an open convention,
Speaker 1: much as I've supported the latter. This is grueling enough.
Speaker 1: You Democrats have the stomach for another hard thing, and
Speaker 1: time is very short.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: There is some other reporting I'm going to bring you
Speaker 1: that is a little less grounded, perhaps, but I just
Speaker 1: want to put it out there so you know what
Speaker 1: I'm looking at and you can make of it what
Speaker 1: you will. That actually Biden isn't planning to endorse Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: that he does want an open convention. And I just
Speaker 1: saw some also not thoroughly rock solid reporting that Gretchen
Speaker 1: Whitmer and one other of the likely candidates has said
Speaker 1: to Kamala Harris, I don't want to be your potential
Speaker 1: VP because they're eyeing that crown themselves. I'll look that
Speaker 1: up in just a moment to bring you what that
Speaker 1: other name is. Number eight. Many thought RNC would help
Speaker 1: Biden by changing the subject. Instead, seeing a United Republican
Speaker 1: Party has focus Dems. They've realized they cannot rely on
Speaker 1: Trump just to lose this imagined they do the whole
Speaker 1: rn C running against the wrong candidate. That would be
Speaker 1: really funny. And Trump is, I'm sure already really irritated
Speaker 1: that his moment is being stepped on by this news.
Speaker 1: And if Biden does drop, you know, in the coming days,
Speaker 1: the RNC and everything that happened, there is going to
Speaker 1: be a back burner, back burner. Everyone's going to forget
Speaker 1: about it instantly, and it's going to be the story
Speaker 1: of the day, which he will absolutely hate not to mention.
Speaker 1: You know, they get that Biden is the weakest possible
Speaker 1: candidate that they could run against. They even find Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: They don't they're not intimidated by her, but they find
Speaker 1: her to be more of a credible threat than Biden
Speaker 1: at this point, which is just borne out by reality
Speaker 1: in the polls and the fact that she can. Her
Speaker 1: sentences can be a little loopy, but they are in
Speaker 1: fact sentences, and she seems to be capable of holding
Speaker 1: a coherent thought from sentence one to sentence two. Number
Speaker 1: nine Democratic Party is acting like an actual party. Question
Speaker 1: mark quite a thing to watch. Let me look up
Speaker 1: this this message I got about. Oh, it's Gavin Newsom
Speaker 1: is the other one and Gretchen Whitmer, who have communicated
Speaker 1: to senior party leaders that they would not be interested
Speaker 1: in serving as Harris's running mate. According to a person
Speaker 1: familiar with the candidates in the mix to join Harris
Speaker 1: atop the ticket, this is from a decision desk HQ
Speaker 1: contributor who I'm not familiar with. That's why this is
Speaker 1: no like knock on. Nick Field is the name of
Speaker 1: this reporter. No knock on him. I'm just not familiar
Speaker 1: with him or the extent of his sourcing. That's why
Speaker 1: I put a little caveat on that one.
Speaker 3: All right, I.
Speaker 1: Got one more for you here. This one's really fun
Speaker 1: from Mark Halprin. Don't know if it's true. He doesn't
Speaker 1: cite a sourcing. It just like puts out there some
Speaker 1: pretty pretty wild plans of what may unfold. So let's
Speaker 1: take a look at this, and if this is in
Speaker 1: fact how it all goes down, then Mark Alprin deserves
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for being ahead of the game
Speaker 1: with all of these details. He says breaking news. Multiple
Speaker 1: sources outline the apparent state of play on Biden at
Speaker 1: this time. Plans to announce withdrawal from nomination as early
Speaker 1: as this weekend, with Sunday most likely. John Meacham historian
Speaker 1: friend to buy whatever morning Joe Dude polishing up remarks
Speaker 1: Biden will not resign the presidency. Biden will not endorse Harris.
Speaker 1: Imagine that open convention with Harris and about three others
Speaker 1: who would those others be super delegates will not be
Speaker 1: allowed to vote on the first ballot. Harris is vetting
Speaker 1: at least four possible running mates, including Andy Basheer, he's
Speaker 1: the very popular Democratic governor of Kentucky, and possibly Josh Shapiro.
Speaker 1: He's the also very popular governor of Pennsylvania. So obviously
Speaker 1: those would be you know, interesting picks. And along the
Speaker 1: lines of people who have been flow of Roy Cooper
Speaker 1: and North Carolina is another one that has been frequently
Speaker 1: floated in connection with Kamala Harris. I don't know if
Speaker 1: any of this is true with regards to this tweet.
Speaker 1: Like I said, he does in cite his sources. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's exciting to think that there could
Speaker 1: be an open convention instead of just anointing Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: You know, as much as the coconut pilled people out
Speaker 1: there has something else to say about that, but listen, personally,
Speaker 1: I would rather have Harris than Biden at this point,
Speaker 1: even though you know, for me it's a little complex,
Speaker 1: because the bottom line is the man can't string two
Speaker 1: sentences together. He shouldn't be running the country today. He
Speaker 1: should certainly not be running the country four years from now.
Speaker 1: They completely lied to the American people. They tried to
Speaker 1: deny what was in front of all of our eyes
Speaker 1: and ears all along. It's disgusting, it's an utter betrayal,
Speaker 1: and for that alone, he deserves to go. I will say,
Speaker 1: his domestic agenda, I think is better than what Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris is likely to do. You know, he has been
Speaker 1: good at answer trust, He has been better than Obama
Speaker 1: on things like labor. There have been real populous turns,
Speaker 1: and now in his sort of death throes of the campaign,
Speaker 1: he has been making an even harder populist pivot because
Speaker 1: he perceives all of it being this elite class that's
Speaker 1: against him. Of course, sixty seven percent of rank and
Speaker 1: file Democrats also want him out. But you know, as
Speaker 1: I said, the status of his health is, it's unforgivable
Speaker 1: the way this has been hidden, the narcissism, the ego here,
Speaker 1: the utter anti democratic rejection of any sort of an
Speaker 1: open primary process. And then this is a person who
Speaker 1: has been the most immoral, genocidal maniac you can imagine,
Speaker 1: and is ideologically committed to it. It's possible that a
Speaker 1: just sort of normy Democrat who would view that conflict
Speaker 1: through a more partisan lens, because bb Neatnau has made
Speaker 1: himself a very partisan figure, may be better in Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris in particular, there is some reporting to suggest that
Speaker 1: she has been a bit of a dissident on the issue.
Speaker 1: So that's how I think about these things. It was
Speaker 1: sort of resigned to, okay, well, was probably just going
Speaker 1: to be Kamala, And I think it's still probably most
Speaker 1: likely that it's just Kamala, even if there's an open
Speaker 1: convention process, because it's not like that's a real democratic process.
Speaker 1: These are all still democratic diehards. But even if you
Speaker 1: have that open process, I still think she'd be probably
Speaker 1: the favorite because she comes from California, there's a huge delegation,
Speaker 1: she's the sitting vice president, a lot of people feel,
Speaker 1: you know, I care about her, the historic nature of
Speaker 1: her position, her identity, and don't want to pass over her.
Speaker 1: She's well and all those things give her a real
Speaker 1: leg up even in that process. But it is, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, vastly superior to have some options on the
Speaker 1: table outside of just Kamala Harris. Who even if you
Speaker 1: just you don't care about any of the policle you're
Speaker 1: just looking at purely who is most electable. She is
Speaker 1: like the second worst candidate after Joe Biden. Himself. So
Speaker 1: you're approving your position if you're the Democratic Party by
Speaker 1: putting her at the top of the ticket, but not
Speaker 1: by that much. So if you're gonna do this wild
Speaker 1: and wacky thing and push Joe Biden out of the race,
Speaker 1: and it is unprecedented and it is wild, why not
Speaker 1: go all the way and actually try to get behind
Speaker 1: you know, a Gretchen Whitmer, who is locke on winning
Speaker 1: Michigan and probably had is very popular and you know,
Speaker 1: has proven to have some ability to win voters over.
Speaker 1: Why not get behind a potentially Jos Shapiro, you know,
Speaker 1: coming out of Pennsylvania, another state's very popular there, or
Speaker 1: in Andy Sheer or Roy Cooper aroun in North Carolina.
Speaker 4: JB.
Speaker 1: Pritzker, who has got this you know, larger than life
Speaker 1: sort of persona. The he's kind of, you know, framed
Speaker 1: as the everyman billionaire kind of a guy. Why not
Speaker 1: open things up so that there are more choices than
Speaker 1: just the second least electable Democrat in the entire country,
Speaker 1: who is way too tied in to what has been
Speaker 1: a historic cover up of Biden's actual health conditions and
Speaker 1: the fact that she was involved in that. That's going
Speaker 1: to be a problem for her with voters coming into November.
Speaker 1: So in any case, that is what I know about
Speaker 1: the lay of the land. It really does feel like
Speaker 1: things are moving quite quickly now. It does feel like
Speaker 1: the sort of death rattle of the Biden campaign. He
Speaker 1: is a very stubborn man, though, so you wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to say one hundred percent, but it is looking increasingly
Speaker 1: likely based on this reporting, that he may be out,
Speaker 1: and he may be out very soon. So we will
Speaker 1: keep you updated