1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: He is drinks chess, motherfucking podcast makes He's a legendary 2 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: queens rapper. 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: He ain't agreed as your boy in O R E. 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: J e f N. Together they drink it up with 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 2: some of the biggest players, you know what I mean. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 3: And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: source for drunk. 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 4: Drink chans MO days New Year's c that's it's time 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 4: for drink Champs. 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: Drink up, motherfuck. 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 5: Mother would a good be hoping he swootshol be. This 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 5: is your boy in O R E. What up is 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 5: d J e f N And this is drink Champs. 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 5: Ye did you brothers that I'm about to introduce. 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: The world. 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 5: It made us proud to support our own. Before this time, 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 5: I didn't know of any brothers from the hood owning 19 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 5: a clothing company and it being the ship. They are 20 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 5: still here and they still friends to this day. 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: I thought the money would have brought them up a 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: long time ago. 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 5: They still here, these legends, and we are giving them 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 5: their motherfucking flowers today. 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: In case you don't know who we're talking about, we're 26 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: talking about for us by us. Motherfucking I name this. 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 5: I try to not name Queens because I can't call y'all, like, 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 5: even though y'are from Queens, the brand is too big 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 5: to just be called Queens. 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: And I'm from Queens that trust me. I want to 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: claim everything in Queens. We claim. I even claimed city 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: field sometimes, you know what I mean. 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 5: So for the people that don't know, right, me and 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 5: you were talking earlier and you said, did you started 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 5: from selling search and hats? 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Is this how this started football? Yeah? 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 6: Man standing on the corner selling Ti top pass. At 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 6: that time, day La Soul had made a video and 39 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 6: they were wearing these Ti top passes. I think we 40 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 6: got inspired from five five Soul, right five five so yeah, 41 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 6: and they were like yeah, and they would like it's 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 6: like a sleeve instead of having a ball on the 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 6: top of it was a little. 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: Strill, the skull cut like the Scully ones, the ones 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: that hung. 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 6: Exactly and we would make a couple of wheel So actually, 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 6: before that, you know, before we had the football name morning, 48 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 6: we were selling super soakers with the Super so. 49 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were selling them the Greek at the Greek picnic. Okay, 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: what the apartment was this? You know, the reality of this. 51 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 4: We were business spend, so we were selling whatever we 52 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: throw it with turning the bucks. So it was coming 53 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: super soakers. When the things were hot, we had Damon 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: had a van. We filled it up with all kind 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 4: of merchandise and go to the Greek Vest all those 56 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: things set up, shopping to cell whatever was hot. So 57 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 4: that's how we started being in business without the fashion party. 58 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: How did y'all come together? Like? Was it through the 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: gear or each other? 60 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 4: They were selling super so I moved from Baisic projects 61 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: to farmers, Belovard and Queens. 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 6: Five four or five years old was kiaking through the 63 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 6: fence and that's what it's doing with no teeth. 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: Man, I want to play with you. 65 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 5: That was it. 66 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: Will we make kids? 67 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 6: They meet out to high school? You know, he came 68 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 6: into school. You came in class and you had a 69 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 6: car accident or something, and he had a he had 70 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 6: a he had a big eight, a big bandage around 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 6: here with man blood on it. And really, you know 72 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 6: a little bit of blood on it. Man blood to 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 6: me and I don't like seeing blood, right, He just 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 6: had something to him and he ran out. 75 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: I was like, yo, that's ignorant. 76 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: Man back then I want to mess with that. And 77 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 5: then Jay all partner, we met him. 78 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 6: He lived two blocks way, so we met him around 79 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 6: when he was probably about in high school, but twelve 80 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 6: eleven or twelve, So childhood friends. 81 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 5: One thing, one thing that that's very unique, you know 82 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like people, people don't stay together. 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: For two weeks, you know what I mean? 84 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: And especially business, How do y'all maintain friendship but still 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 5: have business? 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 6: Well, I was sending this interview as a guest because 87 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 6: I'm so close to it, and I do so many 88 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 6: interviews that I say the normal ship all the time. 89 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,119 Speaker 6: Keith Keith, you know he liked he liked to smoke 90 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 6: the Devil's letters and I never understood. 91 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: Howlets not tell us you. 92 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 5: Go right there? 93 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 6: But he has the best memory of anybody I knowing this, 94 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 6: So my pardon, I'm gonna be sitting here like, oh yo. 95 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 5: So because you know, like I know, I'm a little 96 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 5: bit over there. Like lot of times when I look 97 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 5: at me and compone's relationship, I kind of wish we 98 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 5: never did business, Like I kind of wish we were 99 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 5: just friends. Like now that we don't do business, we're 100 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 5: back for like real, real friends, but it did affect us, 101 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, because we couldn't hang out 102 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: to a certain extent. We had to go business partners. 103 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 5: So if he like I always say this, I say, 104 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 5: I say, my. 105 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: Relationship with Pone. 106 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 5: Made my relationship with e fn Ella because I used 107 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 5: to try to change Compone. I wanted Compone to be 108 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 5: on time, and he never. He never complied. But when 109 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 5: I let that go, but I let that go, I 110 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 5: was like, all right, cool, I let him be him. 111 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 5: So that's like with E I learned that through Compone. 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 5: I don't try to change e f n at all. 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 5: This guy won't buy nothing. This guy got all his money, 114 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 5: I mean. 115 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: Wanting, but I just like let it be. Is that 116 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: something you guys relate to you think? 117 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: I mean? For us, I mean, we grew up as friends. 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: We was friends, you know what I'm saying. We did 119 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: everything we was going on tour. You know, we we 120 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: backstage with backstage passes on thirteen, fourteen years old. 121 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: So for us, we were cool. 122 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: Like so when we got into business, it didn't change 123 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: it for us because we we were already cool, you 124 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, and we did everything together 125 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: and we also went out and took that friendship from 126 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: a friendship to a business and keep it the same. 127 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We was able to stay 128 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, it wasn't like everybody starting he started tripping. 129 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: I check him, I start tripping, He checked me. Got 130 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: it was like, you know what I'm saying, Like, it 131 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: wasn't like just everything was rosie. You know what I'm saying. 132 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 5: But that's that's my thing, is like, how like so 133 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: many people let the money change them as soon as like, 134 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 5: especially childhood friends, especially people you met in high school, 135 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 5: and as soon as that money getting involved. Somebody's been 136 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 5: big headed. The other one is not big headed enough. 137 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 5: So how did y'all maintain like we ain't letting this 138 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 5: business fuck with us. 139 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 6: I'm gonna let them speak on that. I got to 140 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 6: say though, that there's one there's two things that are 141 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 6: different than us and most people. If you with a 142 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 6: rap group or a music group, or you with various 143 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 6: other things, you can potentially have people pull you away 144 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 6: to break off to do your own thing. Fuobul is 145 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 6: way bigger than us, and anything that he does negative, 146 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 6: well I do negative and break off. 147 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: Fuubu is gonna exist. 148 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 6: It ain't gonna be Damon, right, all right, Damon can't 149 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 6: I mean could have probably No. I think we even 150 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: had contracts within ourselves, and you can't break off and 151 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 6: do another brand. So anything that I do with if 152 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 6: he asks out and I make him look bad, it 153 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 6: makes the brand that I'm getting paid off of and 154 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 6: he's getting paid off look bad. So we couldn't do 155 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 6: that in the because we also had hundreds of people 156 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 6: working for us, so we had to save each other 157 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 6: ask too sometimes when we didn't want to save each 158 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 6: other's asses, like just. 159 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: Even keeping our nose clean, you know what I'm saying. 160 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: They never heard of no ship comes down the pipeline 161 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: like these dudes involved in this or that, because we 162 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: had to keep. 163 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: The whole you know what I'm saying. 164 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 5: Also, one other things just said you had a contract 165 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 5: with like a noncompete. We can't tell the world about that. 166 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: That is a genius. I have never heard of that. Yeah, 167 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: neither of you know what the reality is was and 168 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 2: is it is. 169 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: It was something that we wanted to protect, so we 170 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: were willing to do and put our egos aside to 171 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 4: do what's best for the brand at all. 172 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 6: Times and to keep it one hundred. There's times where 173 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 6: we didn't neither make money for them brand. We had 174 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 6: to put money back in. Somebody said, I told you 175 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 6: that was a bad decision and now I got to 176 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 6: pay for it. Where we were really mad at each 177 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 6: other or mad at all overall outcome that that anger 178 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 6: could have taken years, like we could have sold the 179 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 6: brand years ago when everybody said you keep it real. 180 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 6: Those selling it was those same people that stopped buying it. 181 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 6: And we had a we had a massive offer on 182 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 6: the table from Kmart I think it was at that time, 183 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 6: and we and we were do too. 184 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: Come on, came on, but they were like, how many 185 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars are 186 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 5: you talking to? 187 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: Sold out? I'm about to fight. 188 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 6: I'm about to fight one we get outside here, I remember. 189 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 6: But and then one last thing is that I remember, 190 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 6: unlike your business, you gotta work with this artist, You 191 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 6: got to go on tour with this artist. 192 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: You got to do this and that. 193 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 6: When we were coming up, our friends are the ones 194 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 6: they rote belly about and various other things. When we 195 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 6: were coming up and we were doing clothing, hip hop, 196 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 6: very homophobic and prior to us coming up, of course, 197 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 6: Caulk and I cross colors. The idea of a clothing 198 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 6: designer was some flamboyant person in Europe. So when we 199 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 6: were we were being almost harassed by some of our 200 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 6: friends like yo clothes, Yo, Yo, Lie, and so we 201 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 6: came up by ourselves because nobody wanted to talk to us. 202 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 6: Imagine you are there one of our boys moving kilos, 203 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 6: the DMX of the belly, and we're up there talking about, 204 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 6: you know, about to go making strawberry patterns. Son, you 205 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 6: gotta see that this hoodie is gonna make. We came 206 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 6: up realizing nobody wanted to mess with us for a 207 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 6: while until they started hearing we're doing three undred fifty 208 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 6: million dollars a year. 209 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: So that was some of the thing. 210 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 4: The bottom line is noying. You know what I'm saying, 211 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: You're from the fright. You know, we come up the 212 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: same way. So we all had out different stories. I mean, 213 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 4: like for me, I know that I found them because 214 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 4: I knew that Damon, especially at that age, he has 215 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: some unique qualities about him. Deubley cash and half. Like 216 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 4: when I would say I'm broke, that means I ain't 217 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 4: have ship. Damon say he was broke. He probably had 218 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: five or six hundred dollars that, you know what I'm saying. 219 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: So that was a quality that I liked about him. 220 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: I said, I'm fun with him, you know what I'm saying. 221 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: The same way there's certain quality is I loved about 222 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: my partner. And I say, no, what if, whether we're 223 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: selling clothes or selling fucking bananas, you're gonna make some 224 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: money together. 225 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: And that was my call. You liked about Keith? I 226 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: hated keep that. I hated it. 227 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's some real back yard right here. 228 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: No word of I didn't even know him, and he 229 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: was hating girl, Like yo for him. This dude, he's 230 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: sitting in the car looking at me sideways. I'm asking 231 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: dam I'm like, Yo, what's up? 232 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: What you mean? And why are you always looking at me? Crazy? 233 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: So one day they was like, Yo, we're gonna go 234 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: pick up cars in the fuck call. We're gonna be 235 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: a pugger, so he says. So he told me the 236 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: story why he was looking at it. 237 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 5: It was over some girl. 238 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: I'm in motherfucking springtroke gone. Okay. My girl at the 239 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: time was like, Yo, this dude sucking with me, man, 240 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: I said, Yo, where's the funk. Let's go see you 241 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: just do this. 242 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 4: I go ahead, my man, we got this a block 243 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: party got together and I. 244 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: See this motherfucker. 245 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 4: He looked like a stone cold like he got this 246 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 4: look on his face. 247 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: He at that age, just get a ship out of you. 248 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: So I'm talking about girl that yo, you know, maybe 249 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: what did you do? What did you see them? 250 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: He looked at me like screwfys. 251 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: But that's when we we didn't. We didn't do nothing 252 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: at night. The next time I saw him, this motherfucker 253 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: introducing me. Ain't gonna be more motherfucker. 254 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, this dude, really but at that obviously 255 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: afterk I you looking at me sideways? 256 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: Man? 257 00:12:54,120 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 5: Man, man, what I love about it? 258 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 6: I was home one day, mine of my business shirts 259 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 6: crazy Sam from video music by Pop Up Old Dirty 260 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 6: Bass and walking. 261 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 5: Into my house. I don't know, but I know the 262 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 5: wou tang shit we're talking about. Did you just say, oh, 263 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 5: d you walked in your house? Walked you going too fast? 264 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: A minute? 265 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 5: So what happen is no, dirty It was like nineteen 266 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 5: ninety one or something like that, and I think I 267 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 5: took out we took a little ad in the right 268 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: on magazine. 269 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: We put the name in there. 270 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 6: And we got mostly the orders were from Japan and Seattle, Washington. 271 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 6: It wasn't black people actually Maine, right right. We got 272 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 6: a back machine somehow old dirty beast. Oh, I guess 273 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 6: you wanted a bit of music box because we stalked 274 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 6: was he old dirty? 275 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 5: He was super early and ear yo. 276 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 6: And because we we stalked Ralph McDaniels, you know, to 277 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 6: help us with the stuff. And Ralph being that I 278 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 6: think so many artists hit though their career to him, 279 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 6: he crazy Sam basically want some free ship, come out 280 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 6: older in your basketming out. I'm like, yo, there's older 281 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 6: you beast is first of all, I'm a fan. Second all, 282 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 6: I'm hiding whatever kind of whatever kind of something I 283 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 6: have worth than anything my transits the radio because older 284 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 6: is the best. But when Keith was the kind of 285 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 6: partner though that we were all different. I have my 286 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 6: kind of conservative way of trying to come up with 287 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 6: this idea. Call was always like my anybody voice or reason, 288 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 6: my partner Jay, our partner Jay, who's still with us? 289 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 6: Keith to be the one who like, oh is that right? 290 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 6: You go to the studio for three nights and be like 291 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 6: this this stud yo older. 292 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: All the ghetto hood hood hood dudes. Low key. 293 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 5: They remember one that red Man was like, yo, Keith, 294 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 5: I wore the same pair of pants the football ones 295 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: are soon seventeen days strength. 296 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: That story was crazy and Keith is the hood hood 297 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: they bought. 298 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: They were like, I don't know about that dude, Damon, 299 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 5: he kind of funny, he kind of quiet. 300 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: I don't know about him. So key keep the icebreaker. 301 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 5: So the let me ask y'all you touched on it 302 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 5: a little bit earlier, how hard was it to break 303 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 5: into that fashion world? Because I remember going to fashion 304 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 5: shows and saying to myself, I'm never going back, right, 305 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 5: Like I remember just I just went back there and 306 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 5: they had me on the runway and I was I 307 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 5: just related just to like this is all how old 308 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 5: fashion is, and everybody was getting undressed in front of 309 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 5: each other. 310 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, the same for me. 311 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 5: But I predit that to the fashion world, right, And 312 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 5: people say how hard it is to break through, Like 313 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 5: remember how Kanye and sway, So how hard was it 314 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: for y'all to get in that world? 315 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 4: For me, it was, I mean It was hard work. 316 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, Its a heavy lift. But we 317 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: were doing something that's so natural to us that we 318 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: were going against the normal the progress of a fashion house. 319 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: So whatever we did came naturally. 320 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: You said, you wouldn't walk a runway that made you uncomfortable, 321 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: didn't do shit that made us that was real to us. 322 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: Whatever it was, so in that form, it was easy 323 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: because we were doing what came natural to us. But 324 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: obviously all the late nights, the early mornings, all that 325 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: ship was hard. But the actual building of the brand 326 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 4: that is in our DNA. 327 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 8: But I'm assuming you guys didn't try to break in 328 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 8: the traditional fashion doing the workaround, knowing the audience you 329 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 8: were going to. 330 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 6: We broke the system because they didn't. They didn't actually 331 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 6: allow us in the department. So as they said, they 332 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 6: literally told one of us that, for all four of 333 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 6: us on the Hantack, they said, if we don't want 334 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 6: people coming in and look like that who steal clothes 335 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 6: or getting in the shootouts, so they wouldn't put us 336 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 6: in there. But the reality is, if I was on 337 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 6: the Nory, said Keith was on the Norse set, they're 338 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 6: kicking everybody off the set, and but if we had 339 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 6: a way to yo, No, we dressing the artists over here. 340 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 6: We wasn't dressing all artist. We just wanted to be 341 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 6: on the set, so we making sure. Well, now we 342 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 6: get to holler at the girls on the set to 343 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 6: eat the freaking food with the craft. I get to 344 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 6: see an artist like nor performed. So what we was doing, 345 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 6: we were spending night and day on sets. If you 346 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 6: really look at the first set was the first set 347 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 6: with Miss Jones where I want to be, and then 348 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 6: it was ice cream. You'll see you'll see red, You'll 349 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 6: see you'll see method in the in the truck going 350 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 6: ice cream man coming a food who hat. Then you'll 351 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 6: see the biggie one more chance. I'm in I'm in 352 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 6: the background with a little hat, you know, just always 353 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 6: trying to place the hat in it because I just 354 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 6: wanted to be in this on the set to watch artists. 355 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 5: I just didn't want to get kicked off. And I 356 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 5: everybody else was like I'm doing this, I'm doing No, 357 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 5: you want to get out of here, and know you 358 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 5: want to get out of here. 359 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 6: I think that was the first way we started. So 360 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 6: people started demanding it. They didn't go to the these 361 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 6: are cats who, like I was a van driver and Rockaway. 362 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 6: I know cats in Rockway that never been to the city, 363 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 6: forget anyplace else in the country. So we now go 364 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 6: to a specialty store in Rockaway and we start selling 365 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 6: to the especially so the mom and pops to every day, 366 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 6: so we didn't go to the department store. So it 367 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 6: was really almost like we we were putting on sets 368 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 6: what we love and then giving it kind of like 369 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 6: to the cast we know just in the hood. 370 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: And or you said something earlier about not knowing how 371 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: the work you're doing that's getting out there that you're 372 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 4: not getting like the instant likes and all that shit. 373 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 4: We were putting in that work as far as public 374 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 4: placement goes, when probably placing wasn't really a thing. So 375 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 4: we didn't realize as kids in Atlanta, Alabama, Cincinnati, you 376 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Japan seeing our stuff on video 377 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: sets until we went out and actually go to the 378 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: trade show and these retailers told us, it's kids in 379 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 4: my town in Michigan asking for your shit because so 380 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: and so is wear in it. But we didn't get 381 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 4: to feel that that momentum until we started talking to 382 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 4: retail But. 383 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 6: If you knew the stores, it's a hood thing. And 384 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 6: I'm not saying this because everybody here has to be hood. 385 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 6: Everybody here knows this stuff. If you knew the store 386 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 6: you want to select, you know where we're gonna go 387 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 6: in Manhattan. We're gonna put that stuff in the stores 388 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 6: on one four five. Why does everybody moving weight all 389 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 6: the way up and down the Eastern Seaboards go going 390 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 6: to that area to go and do whatever they do 391 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 6: and then they're gonna stop off at one four five 392 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 6: and go shopping. Then they're gonna take clothes down the 393 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 6: Eastern Seaboard, right. So it's just thinking if we think 394 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 6: about advertising. 395 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 8: Those stories were the influencers of the time. They were 396 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 8: the taste to making you didn't want. 397 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 6: Every time they shot in ten thousand, they ten thousand 398 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 6: dollars for thirty seconds on MTV. They starting five hundred 399 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 6: dollars on BT. Why because the amount of people to watch, No, 400 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 6: ain't nobody in the hood feeling out known Nielsen rating 401 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 6: and everybody they're watching BT and the project's got ten 402 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 6: other people watching it for five hours, we're getting the 403 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 6: same amount of value that will be ten thousand dollars 404 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 6: on MTV. It's just common sense about knowing who you're 405 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 6: messing with, who your market is, right, So. 406 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. 407 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 5: At one point right where we see football product was 408 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 5: in rap videos all day, right, But then at one 409 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 5: time labels start requesting that you block out the label 410 00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 5: you block out. 411 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: So that that was early on, so that wasn't that 412 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: was what MTV was doing that They didn't know what 413 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: the FB was, but it was in all these videos 414 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: and then he just started seeing us. 415 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 5: I can see how the figure that few. I can 416 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 5: see that now. I didn't even keep that then, No, 417 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 5: it is, but you know what we did. 418 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 6: Remember what we did was that the man got one 419 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 6: on right there. What happened was it was ninety seven 420 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 6: they started doing that. We realized though that they wouldn't 421 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 6: block out jersey numbers, so before five, so before five 422 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 6: ever existed, the year oh five, we had always wanted 423 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 6: food would be five of us. We created the number 424 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 6: five to be synonymous with Google. So we're the only 425 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 6: ones in clothing that ever owned the number. Trademarked the 426 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 6: number from ninety seven up to five, and then they 427 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 6: could never blur it because now you you would have 428 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 6: to be blurring twenty three forty eight. So that's how 429 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 6: we started to place the stuff in the end. So 430 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 6: it was us and I think BMW on three two three, 431 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 6: and I think there's very few that owned actual numbers. 432 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: It was a lot of It was a lot of 433 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: marketing and ship we did. You know, we didn't do 434 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: the basic the basic route. We learned a lot from 435 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: our mistakes and what we did, and you know, we 436 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: just grew from there, you know what I'm saying. But 437 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: we always kept it like everything that we wanted to 438 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: do is what we did with our brand. You know 439 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We didn't have to go this route 440 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: because so and so was doing that. We didn't have 441 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: to go to that route the so and so is 442 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: doing that, you know what I'm saying. 443 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 2: We look at it. 444 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 4: Labels at the time, stay and I remember up here 445 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: in Collins the street the street teams. 446 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: We had street teams as a fashion house. That was 447 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: unheard of back then. 448 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 4: We kind of ran a lot about marketing and promotion, labor, 449 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 4: a lot of gorilla marketing, a lot of in the 450 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: face of our consumers, and that just spread like wildfire. 451 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: Man was was it? 452 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 5: Because once people find out that the name means for 453 00:21:53,560 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 5: us by us. Some people would take it as hip hop. Well, 454 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 5: some people could take it as black people. Did that 455 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 5: ever have a backslashing like trying to get in the 456 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 5: dwarpping stores and like we don't we don't cover, we 457 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 5: don't cover black clothing. 458 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: We think I think it affected us more on the 459 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: consumer side because in the way we are we obviously 460 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 4: we are black men with a black owned company. But 461 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 4: forced bias to us at that time was more than 462 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: just a It wasn't a race thing. It's more of 463 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: a hip hop raxural thing, cause. 464 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: We had we from New York, we got Manican friends, 465 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: we got Cuban friends, we got white friends. 466 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 5: Search and they yeah, boys just as wild as anybody else. 467 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: Like the hip hop. It wasn't a colored thing. 468 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: So I thing for his bias was like more of 469 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: a cultural thing for the hip hop community, by the 470 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 4: hip hop community. 471 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: But obviously being black on being black men, black owned company, 472 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: we couldn't ignore that fact because a lot of people saying, yo, 473 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: don't weigh our ship, and we knew that that's something 474 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: that we wanted. 475 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 6: To address in our clothing, but also to keep the 476 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 6: one hundred though when you hear somebody who it has 477 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 6: so much pride and go, man, you finally made something 478 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 6: for us. 479 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: It's hard at that moment. 480 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 6: Ago, Yeah, it's true, and it is powered by an 481 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 6: African American culture that came out of the Bronx and 482 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 6: we are represented. But you gotta allow everybody to touch 483 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 6: this because I think our I think I think hip 484 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 6: hop and country all going to be the most powerful 485 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 6: music ever because it's the voice of the have nots. 486 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 5: But you can't exclude somebody from our beautiful life or 487 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 5: our struggles. 488 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 6: Don't think like that. You can't say that to somebody. 489 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 6: At that time was just like it was so much pride. 490 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 6: You know, you're just like all right, cool. 491 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 5: Because you know, you know, you know, it's a it's 492 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 5: a saying like whenever somebody is doing something good, they say, oh, 493 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 5: we the fool board this ship. I take pride when 494 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 5: if somebody says that, and you know what, you know, 495 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 5: what's the crazy shit about it is, I immediately know 496 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 5: what they're saying. 497 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: When someone says, oh we the fool board. 498 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 5: This ship, I say, either they mean you know the 499 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 5: team or we control. 500 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: Of our own ship as the coaches. Both of those things. 501 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: The reality of it is that it was never like black. 502 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: It was black owned, but never black only. Only we 503 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: never like thought of it as because first of all, 504 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: it's bad business to say I can't buy my ship. 505 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 4: This is bad business. 506 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 6: And and we created it because we felt that. We 507 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 6: felt the Timbling at the time said that about us, 508 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 6: you can't buy out. 509 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: That was the energy. 510 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 6: Remember they don't sell our boosts to drug dealers, and 511 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 6: we were buying all we were buying three pair Timbling 512 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 6: in the year when construction work, and so we would 513 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 6: be guilty of that. We would become the same thing 514 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 6: we're fighting against if we if we decided to be 515 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 6: that ignorant. 516 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 5: Now this is this famous our commercial. It's a gap commercial, right, 517 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 5: but he had a food who hat. I thought that 518 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 5: was the hardest in America at the time. Was that 519 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 5: done on purpose? 520 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: So that was a mistake. 521 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: Now he went down to do the commercial and my 522 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: boy round Tree that was holding him down at the time, 523 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: all back to the office and was like, yo El 524 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: was gonna wear this hat? Kenny ware he acts for 525 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: acts First he said, Kenny wed the hat in the commercial. 526 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: So I was like, hell yeah, but hold on one second. 527 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: Put them on hold of going there to these guys. 528 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, that one where the food had the 529 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: Gap commercial. Everybody saying, hell, yes, I go back to 530 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: around yo. 531 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: So it's a goal. 532 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: We didn't know he was gonna rap about it, but 533 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, they just didn't have a hat to feed him. 534 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 5: But he changed the game with that one. Like how 535 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 5: many people from the Gap had to get fired? Bro? 536 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: Who everybody? 537 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 5: He heard? 538 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: It was like sixteen people that got fired. How long 539 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 2: did that commercial run? We can't, like about a year 540 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: and a half. 541 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: It still now we have like like four or five months, 542 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: six months and then they stopped. 543 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 8: It and he stopped the show. They ain't re read it, 544 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 8: think about it? What's good drink Champs Army. 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It's so 550 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 8: dope to hear these legends chop it up about everything 551 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 8: from wild stories to debating what's going on in the world. 552 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 8: I mean it has it all. 553 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 5: Season one was taped at the Shack That's Dave Spot 554 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 5: in Ohio, where we had the honor of filming our 555 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 5: Drink Champs episode with them. They had guests like Questlove, 556 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 5: Kat Williams, Michelle Wolf, Q Tip, Radio, Raheem, and a 557 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 5: lot more. Season two, though, was taped on the road 558 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 5: with Day to Living y'all scene bringing the magic that 559 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 5: rises up when they're live together. 560 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 8: Check it out. That's the midnight miracle. Listen wherever you 561 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 8: get your podcasts. There is no social media at the time. 562 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 8: The Gap runs an ad. They spend thirty million dollars 563 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 8: on every network. He's in the ad Acapella Forest by 564 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 8: us on the log it's running. 565 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 5: They don't have anybody culturally relevant in the company black white, 566 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: I don't get yellow. 567 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: Who said, yo, Yo know. 568 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 6: This? 569 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: No hashtag Gap fail Yo. The dudes in the mirror like, yo, yo, 570 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 2: the fuck you know what I mean? Over the Gap? 571 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: Nobody tells them yo, Well how many we wow? 572 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: But the Illi story was when we first saw the commercial. Yeah, 573 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: we were all in the office watching. He said, oh yo, 574 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: they go to GAP commercial. We're sitting there watching it. 575 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: You don't know about he was like, we were like, oh, 576 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: say well he just said food in the Gap commercial. 577 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 5: Yo. 578 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: It was It was crazy that they know what know 579 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: what is He had ll had bested interest in our company. 580 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 4: So we we we worked a situation at him where 581 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 4: he was censivized to do to go the extra mile. 582 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: He was invested in our company, and he really just 583 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: once he got to a situation, he felt like, I 584 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: can make this much by making this ship this much hotter, 585 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: and I got these platforms. He was off his sitcoms, 586 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: you know. You know at that time he wouldn't take 587 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: the ship off. 588 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 6: He was so he is so underrated as a partner, 589 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 6: a pie in a legend through so many transitions. Even 590 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 6: what he's doing rock the bells. But he he to me, 591 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 6: is one of the cats who you This was not 592 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 6: his brand totally. He was a part of the brand. 593 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 6: He got paid off the brand. He went so hard 594 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 6: he wasn't talked to My manager. 595 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: Owned it. And I got to think, I think that commercial. 596 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 5: Not only did we know you owned it, but after 597 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 5: that commercial, we thought the gap, yeah, we thought. 598 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: They and then that's what happened. The Gap did their numbers. 599 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 6: They realized the target market they were trying to increase 600 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 6: three hundred percent. Everybody, the kids still thinking about football, 601 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 6: the gap and then l goes back to them and says, 602 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 6: why don't you'll do a deal and let and and 603 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 6: just get over it. I know, Lecky Wounds re air 604 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 6: the commercial, and then they re air the commercial. 605 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: Listen. The commercial was so powerful. When I watched it today, 606 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: I had to say, Miss zach Filin that I had 607 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: a little bit like, oh, like, I was like and 608 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you. I wanted to ask you 609 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: this for a long time. I've been seeing it. 610 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 5: I haven't been seeing it, y'all, but I wanted to 611 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 5: ask you all this one a long time. So you 612 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 5: need to tell me that I asked what I had. 613 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: We're in lady lyrics and then split it and they 614 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 5: didn't even have no idea. 615 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 8: What's crazy is we've had all angles of the story 616 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 8: because we've let talk about it. You've been on the 617 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 8: show before, we spoke about it, and it doesn't get old. 618 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 8: It's just it's such an epic moment in hip hop 619 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 8: and then and then clothing and you know, and part 620 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 8: is he said the way he said it in the 621 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 8: wrap on the Only You. If you was in hip hop, 622 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 8: only you will understand it. 623 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 624 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: So there's people called me like, yo, you're l but 625 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: nobody if you don't understand that language and that langue. 626 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: At that time, it was really authentic, but it was 627 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: it was rebelling within the system. 628 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you Oh my. 629 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 5: God, that's that ship is so quick? So what mad 630 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 5: y'all go on tour? Because I heard y'all saying that earlier. 631 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 5: That was a lot of the other things that you 632 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 5: just said wasn't traditional either, right, But I remember seeing that. 633 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 5: I remember seeing y'all you know what I mean? What 634 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 5: made y'all say I'm going to be a. 635 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: Part of it that much? 636 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 5: Because you could just close the rappers and you ain't 637 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 5: y'all guys had to go physically. 638 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: Yes, that was that was before what tore you talking. 639 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 6: We were on tours, guests on tour, and then the 640 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 6: good old days when we started doing can Con and 641 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 6: we just rolled into a city and we just buy 642 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 6: out a bar for three hours for everybody, and that. 643 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: Was like the good that was. That was social media. 644 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 6: I got you know, you know, you got your crew 645 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 6: right until some casts started going no, no, no, no, 646 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 6: no the balls on me. 647 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, your home boy, this is on the company. No, no, 648 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: the ball on me. 649 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 6: I met one of my dudes, like twenty years I 650 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 6: just paid off that credit card from the night I 651 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 6: brought out the bar in Detroit. People like, Yo, you 652 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 6: got caught up, home boy. 653 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: But what you I mean? 654 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 6: Because that's the type we do. We would before social 655 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 6: media was out. Somebody were like, did you let's say 656 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 6: live happened on Sunday night twenty five years ago. You 657 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 6: hear the DJ go who just brought out the ball 658 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 6: for the next three hours. I don't care what you're drinking. 659 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 6: It's on fool ball. You guys would be a me 660 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 6: fit it back. 661 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: Shit. Yeah, we talketing just fine us. 662 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 5: Right because because like you said, like you I said, 663 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 5: y'all went at it like a hip hop promotion. 664 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: But this is a clothing line. 665 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 5: So I had never seen like we heard of cross colors, 666 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 5: but we didn't know how to cross colors. 667 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: People. Look, we didn't. We thought they was lying to 668 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: us and damage with the same people like we. 669 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 5: Like. 670 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: So like just like the first time. 671 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 5: We see the owners of the brand, we see the 672 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 5: brand and we see the owners. 673 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: Of the brand out right and they look like me. 674 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 5: It looked like, so who are the other people in 675 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 5: the space at the time, was walking? 676 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: We're out yet we launched. Yeah, we advise. We advised 677 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: Dame dash on how to start rock. 678 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 6: We put we put the president Jeff Tweety over at 679 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 6: Sean John when when when he wanted to start that brand. 680 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: We advise Mark. 681 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 6: We all here's the ones who we came who we 682 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 6: came up with, Maurice Malone, April Walker, calcaon Bad Brothers. 683 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 6: And at that time when we would go to our 684 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 6: trade show, there was nobody else in the trade Magic. Yeah, 685 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 6: of color. There was nobody of color in the trade show. 686 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 6: So we would just be us. We get together in 687 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 6: a little room and talk about what we were going 688 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 6: to do. But we also we also ruin the Magic 689 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 6: trade show because we started throw the wild parties. 690 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: We would we would get six in Jack the Rappids. Basically, Yeah, 691 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: we would hire six bustloads. 692 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 6: It was a trade show because we will hire six 693 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 6: bus greyhound bustle loads of models from LA We would 694 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 6: have them all come to the trade show for one 695 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 6: party one night. All were fuble come in and they 696 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 6: would be Cinderella. They'd had to get right on the 697 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 6: bus right after and leave. And all the buyers and 698 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 6: everybody started hearing about this part. It was all these 699 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 6: beautiful people. You would never see them again. 700 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: Imagine what. 701 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: It's like. 702 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: Five guys, like two hundred women and we sprinkl women in. 703 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: There are like five at a time, and very classy women, 704 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: you know. 705 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 6: And we made sure everybody was say because they had 706 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 6: to get right on the bus and leave, not say 707 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 6: in Vega, it's not get in trouble. So when we 708 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 6: do a method like that, you know super Bowl, we 709 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 6: would would we'd buy out. We buy a beautiful space 710 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 6: for just three days we called Club Fuoble and you 711 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 6: had to get a pass by one of us to 712 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 6: literally get in. And it would be DMX performing that 713 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 6: cat that cat you know, so can coon, same stuff, 714 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 6: all the same mentality. There's just hood mentality, you know 715 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 6: what I mean? 716 00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 2: It strictly hood mentality. 717 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, what's the difference of an everyday person When 718 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 6: we were talking befoor, an everyday person in your store 719 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 6: and you say, you know, thank you becoming so much. 720 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 6: Take that home, man, how are your mother doing? It 721 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 6: doesn't have to be in that form. But when somebody 722 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 6: feels like you care about them and you took that moment, 723 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 6: they will never forget that in their entire life ever, 724 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 6: you know. 725 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: I remember I remember Nelly, Nelly telling me, Yo, give 726 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: me your football party, Daddy Olds last year. I was 727 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: caught noell back then. He said, but that party was crazy. 728 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: And it's funny because we were on stage. What was 729 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: that that that thing they wet and wild or whatever, 730 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: and we was on stage and he was telling this 731 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: is when he was telling telling him to me, and 732 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: it was just crazy to hear him say it because 733 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: we was vibing on his music, yet he was vibbling 734 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: on us. 735 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 6: I remember, I remember fifty used to be online there 736 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 6: when he was a young artist coming up. Or it 737 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 6: was Lebron, Remember when Lebron? Yeah, when he when he 738 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 6: first he didn't get drafted yet. 739 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: That's how Fifth shot his first video at one of 740 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: our parties out there. 741 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 4: If it wasn't for hip hop, for US hip hop music, 742 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: football wouldn't exist, not at all, not at all. 743 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: Hell, let's fix no noise for that guy that. 744 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 5: But at one point, like the brand did go commercial right, like, yeah, 745 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 5: it was just everywhere it was just it was just 746 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 5: everywhere was that hard because you know, you know how 747 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 5: you know how they said, when you when you go, 748 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 5: when you go, when you go, when your records get 749 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 5: played on the radio too much? 750 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: Are you pop? 751 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 5: Now? 752 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Did you ever feel like that? 753 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: We you know, we were just having a conversation about 754 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: that because we thought at that time we were gonna 755 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: have no more than three years. 756 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: Like, yo, we got three years. 757 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: We got to get as much money as we can 758 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: because it ain't gonna last that long. And then here 759 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: we are sitting thirty two years later. You know what 760 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying, right, saying the same ship Liken we here 761 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: like this is you know, legendary. 762 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 6: But listen, end of the day, I'm glad that we 763 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 6: had a previous conversation about analytics. Yeah, we want, we want, 764 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 6: we want pop and I love it. 765 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 5: Right, But. 766 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: I mean, he's a keeping real niggas. 767 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: But you know that. 768 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 6: I'm here, yes, but a hot bash man like five 769 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 6: to seven years, where is United colored Beniton's I don't 770 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 6: know where where is the cost? Whereas a let's say, 771 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 6: when it came into the market, leve I was doing 772 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 6: eighteen billion. 773 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: They went down to three, they back up the six. 774 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 6: Uh when you when you really think about the brand, 775 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 6: A lot of people have fell in love with their 776 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 6: brand so much. But you know what, if you would 777 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 6: love too, loved it to death and you were in 778 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 6: high school, that was the old thing you want when 779 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 6: you went to college. 780 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: You want to feel a little different, all right. 781 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 6: And that's when we started to expand the brand, like 782 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 6: I'm gonna do with you with drink Champs. I think 783 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 6: drink Champs could be a whole bunch of licensing and 784 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of a lot of things. 785 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 6: I think that's I think. I think we wanted them. 786 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 6: I think that you could be you could be the 787 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 6: Coco Bongo was ready to community. 788 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 2: Taking. Yeah, yeah, but. 789 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, of course it went pop and you know what, 790 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 6: it went like this, and for many years we took 791 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 6: the brand overseas. A lot of people said, I mean, 792 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 6: because one of the biggest issues was saying right, yeah, 793 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 6: well it was like nineteen ninety eight. 794 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: He was hottest fish grease. 795 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 5: You know, we were hot about like every you're giving 796 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,479 Speaker 5: me chills and chills. 797 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: So the brand was so hot that they couldn't people 798 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: couldn't figure. 799 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: Out how to stop us. 800 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: They didn't, so they created this story that we sold 801 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 1: the bread for some reason. No matter what we did, 802 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: it just stuck for some reason. 803 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 2: Wow, you know what I mean? Like even what it's 804 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, ut that you sold it? 805 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 806 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 2: Who created this this? It was? 807 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: I feel I'm gonna speak for myself. It was the 808 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: competitors because they were like, yo, let's throw a monkey. 809 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: Mentioned is day, Like we. 810 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: Was getting three hundred the peers, your peers, We don't 811 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not saying it. 812 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 4: But than that, yeah, I'm not saying that necessarily called Canne. 813 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 4: There's other entities that own these brands as well, right right, people. 814 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 2: People started buying out the brands and then it's them 815 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: like you. 816 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: Don't do business with a person didn't want to throw 817 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: a little you know what I'm saying. 818 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 5: You know before you say something, because I'm gonna tell 819 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 5: you the reason why the rumor was a little bad 820 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 5: because this is a company. 821 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 2: That said they for us, by us, you're gonna sell it. 822 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 2: They sold it. Yeah, I wish we back. They did sell. 823 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 2: We did sell. But what we did do is we 824 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: sold to we sold the region. 825 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 6: We so we sold China Korea and Philippines and about 826 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 6: we can't touch those areas, and Korea was more skate 827 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 6: and we didn't want to relate to skate, so we 828 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 6: just sold those areas just so you can break up 829 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 6: your brand now and you see, like enough shark tank, right, 830 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 6: But the example, I'll give you an example. Yeah, I 831 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 6: mean publicly, we were so open about our world. So 832 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 6: we were like, yeah, we got a distribution deal with Samsung. 833 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 6: Same as you may have a distribution deal, you own 834 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 6: your brand, you may be on whatever platform it is today, 835 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 6: it's normal. 836 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 5: Then people are like, you own my Samsung. You know 837 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 5: we have a distribution deal. You own by Revolt. Right, 838 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 5: They would be like, well then who owned Revolt? 839 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: Well, who owned that? Person owns you? And that was 840 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: easy to say. 841 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 5: Again, no social it's the licensing deal all but it's 842 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 5: a distribute. 843 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 6: It's a distribution deal. There's no social media. We can't 844 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 6: answer immediately. 845 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 5: Somebody can't go to the fooble or hear the fooble, 846 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 5: Instagram or TikTok to go yo. 847 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 6: Let me break it down, let me show you the paperwork. 848 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 6: No way to get out of it. It keeps spinning. 849 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 5: You can't spend time on negative when we knew the commercials, Hey, 850 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 5: we own it. 851 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: We own it. 852 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 6: The kids don't care. At the end of the day, 853 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 6: they care what's cool, what they want to rock, you know. 854 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 6: So that's that's some of the things we have the challenges. 855 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 5: So so let me ask you, because that was very 856 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 5: interesting what you said. So you said you showed the 857 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 5: Korea territory territory and then then so that means that you, guys, 858 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 5: wasn't designing those clothes that came out and I was. 859 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 4: Start Usually we start with a licensing situation where let's 860 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 4: say a company in Korea, and yes we were guide 861 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 4: them with all the branding and all the direct quality control. 862 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 4: But once they get up and run, they may say, no, 863 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 4: what we want to buy the story from the guy. 864 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 4: We don't want to license it no more. 865 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: What's your price? 866 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 5: Right? 867 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 2: And that's what you look at, you know. 868 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 6: So if you did, if you did a license of 869 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 6: drink champs in China, right, we want to you can 870 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 6: you can create whatever your your A license is basically 871 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 6: you leasing it to somebody. So you're or you're renting 872 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 6: your home this summer, you can say, listen, guys here 873 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 6: in China here's what I want you to do. I'll 874 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 6: allow you to do twenty four episodes a drink champ. 875 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 6: But because we understand that China wants some portion of 876 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 6: it to be China related speaking that language for a 877 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 6: half an. 878 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 2: Hour hour, you can neither go a half an hour 879 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 2: is us. 880 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 6: Or we can go one segment is US, one segment 881 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 6: is your version one segment, or you can go every 882 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 6: other episode. So what we would do is say, here 883 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 6: is the package, here is all our logos, identity. We're 884 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 6: making a military set d D. They'll go, okay, we'll 885 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 6: use thirty percent of that. But in Japan they used 886 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 6: to like to dress and they still do something like characters. 887 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 6: They say, we want to do that. 888 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 5: We're not gonna do your double lexus because nobody's a 889 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 5: double lex over here. 890 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 6: And fifty percent we're gonna create our own with your logo. 891 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 6: But you're gonna they're gonna look like a dog, literally 892 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 6: a rock waller with FuGO on whatever it's trending in 893 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 6: that gave them. We gave them the DNA to it. 894 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 6: So that's how you do it. And you can license 895 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 6: a territory. You can license, Well, I'm gonna give you suits. 896 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 6: I'm gonna give you bags, I'm gonna give you boots. 897 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 6: And that's how you see Mickey Mouse, Nike, Apple, all 898 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 6: these brands that are gonna scale, and everybody listening to 899 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 6: us right now. 900 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 5: You want to scale your intellectual property. It's all about licensing. 901 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 5: Because if we knew the we knew how, we knew, 902 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 5: how we knew what we knew. We knew how to 903 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 5: make for hip hop. 904 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 6: That's it mails between eighteen and thirty five that love 905 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 6: to pay twenty percent more in quality goods. We knew 906 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 6: that you want to make ladies, and you're a ladies manufacturer, 907 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 6: we will license you because you know ladies. 908 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: I don't know how how design like a lake you 909 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: want to make for makeup? You want to make for 910 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 2: this like right now, call he does if you're a. 911 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 2: If you're a. As the baby. 912 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 6: Boomers, the primarily the African American baby booming, their children 913 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 6: now have wealth, but their parents don't necessarily have in 914 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 6: the multicultural housing a place to retire that they feel 915 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 6: that African Americans are sold up to. So if you 916 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 6: want to go to call because he runs the real 917 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 6: estate division. You want to say, hey, I want to 918 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 6: create a community for affluent African Americans who kids aren't lawyer, 919 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 6: docs or whatever the case is. But nobody's telling them 920 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 6: I want to create a Fuboo community. Well, then you 921 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 6: go to call and let me explain that to your 922 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 6: real quick. That's a license and it is likely said. 923 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 6: It's expanding the brand. 924 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 4: So we're moving into real estate, which consists of anything 925 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 4: from hospitality, housing, Well, we call. 926 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 2: It community, whatever you want to call it. You may 927 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: call it this community. 928 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 4: The reality is when you deal with developers, they always 929 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 4: looking for a way to upsell whatever property they have. 930 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 4: So we filled our brand and get them the leverage 931 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 4: that they need to get into certain markets. So we 932 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 4: partner with housing developers, retail developers, commercial commercial developers to 933 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 4: build these communities that we're working on right now outside 934 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 4: of Atlanta that consists of housing, retail, hospitality, restaurants, sports, 935 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 4: sports what we call those things the things we do 936 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 4: all the sports things that So we basically go into 937 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 4: these communities that need these things in developing them. 938 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 6: For and we're going to have some medical and if 939 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 6: you think like the retirement, but we want to have 940 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 6: experts who understand heart disease, adult care, living adult care 941 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 6: for African American blood, high blood pressure, cholesterol and be 942 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 6: experts in that. So that our so again it's a 943 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 6: license of people. Well then we vet and the same thing. 944 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 6: If we want to do frozen soul food, well we're 945 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 6: gonna say, well, African Americans suffer from a lot of 946 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 6: You wanted the African American taste or Caribbean taste, or 947 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 6: you want that, but you want it to be maybe 948 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 6: not as much salt in it, not as much for 949 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 6: every case. The bottom line is when you license drink 950 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,959 Speaker 6: champs with whoever here talking about their bakery, their lotion 951 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 6: or whatever, if you are able to find great partners 952 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 6: to say I will take a three year license on that, 953 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 6: and if I hit all the numbers and do it 954 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 6: the right way, I'll do what I really do best. 955 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 6: I believe in your brand and I'll take it there 956 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 6: and then you know we'll keep it going. Some license, 957 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 6: screw you. But that's how we got to grow up. 958 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 4: For the young people that's going into the building their brands, 959 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 4: it's all about the brand. Build a brand and you 960 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 4: capture your market. Now you have an asset that you 961 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 4: can go out and work these. 962 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that what miss the Beast does, right. 963 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 6: I think you just sound one of the biggest deals 964 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 6: in history, right, Miss the Beast, these burgers and all 965 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 6: that kind of stuff like that or YouTuber YouTube, Right, 966 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 6: I need buy an island assumption. They learned to license 967 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 6: their brand. 968 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 8: You know, that's something that from year one we knew 969 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 8: build a strong brand and we wanted. 970 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 2: To We wanted to own it, and we wanted to 971 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: do I looked at. 972 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 8: It as franchising Drink Champs to these different countries. Our 973 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 8: idea was like, find the equivalent of no Orient EFN 974 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 8: in your country that's credible, and we'll give you the 975 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,240 Speaker 8: full franchise model of how that will. 976 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 2: Work and back it from our end. It's the same thing. 977 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 2: And you know, license and. 978 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 4: Do you make money fun the whether the royalties from 979 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 4: the avatarsing what you may do your work. 980 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 6: And your job is to keep the d N a 981 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 6: of it, because if Drink Champs doesn't do what they're 982 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 6: supposed to do, then everybody else Hence, going back to 983 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 6: our partnerships, you don't do. If you don't do, if 984 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 6: I don't do what I'm supposed to do, the whole 985 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 6: thing collapses. 986 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 2: Is it true? Owns Cougie. Yeah, yeah, we ended up 987 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: buying Koogie. 988 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 5: We had. 989 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 6: We had, we had Kappa us A, but we gave 990 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 6: that back because Kappa uh Soper didn't take off till 991 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 6: last year. And the damn sneakers we had, we have 992 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 6: etonic sneakers. Willie Esco our party, you're running too, so 993 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 6: you understand. 994 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 2: We had a coming called Heather Red. We had drunken money, 995 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 2: married to the mom, and we had we had what's 996 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 2: that Ted Baker? We had for a little while, but 997 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 2: we didn't we licensed that from them. We didn't. We didn't. 998 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 6: We failed at that. We didn't know how to build 999 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 6: retail stores. We would never experts at that. We love 1000 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 6: to know what we're expertise. So we failed at Kappa. 1001 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,760 Speaker 6: We failed that uh Ted Baker. We we reinvented Cougie 1002 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,399 Speaker 6: because we bought that out of bankruptcy. And the old 1003 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 6: cats would say to the young kids, you don't know 1004 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 6: about this cookie. And then we ended up making jeans 1005 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 6: that Kougie never made, and the young cats would say, 1006 00:48:54,680 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 6: the old people, you don't know about then. 1007 00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 2: Let me tell you all. 1008 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 5: Our show is about giving people their flowers while they alive, 1009 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:03,959 Speaker 5: not why you know what I mean. 1010 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 2: Something happens and you passed away. 1011 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 5: So we wanted to make sure that we tell y'all 1012 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 5: how much y'all mean to the coach, and how much 1013 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 5: y'all mean to the society, how much you'll mean to 1014 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 5: us personally. 1015 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 2: So we wanted to give you all y'all know what 1016 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:26,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Oh the other word, Yeah, we got always 1017 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 2: say give it to the Michael just gets to put 1018 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 2: it on the tables. There you go, you represent him 1019 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:40,720 Speaker 2: that he's not here. Big up my FUNA network. 1020 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 5: So we're gonna play a quick game. You explained to them, 1021 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 5: the fans drinking. We got to find out was drinking 1022 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 5: for them. Oh yeah, you want to you want any 1023 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 5: of your friends to be a designated drink or you 1024 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,240 Speaker 5: want one of our dudes to be a destiny? 1025 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,240 Speaker 2: You got that information? 1026 00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 5: Drink? 1027 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 2: Come on, come on, who's gonna be drinking? Put them back? Somebody? 1028 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 2: Come on, key, I think everybody need doesn't drinking? Right, 1029 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 2: come on? Designated drinkers? Come on? Do you hear that? Folks? 1030 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,240 Speaker 5: This is the only place in the world this designated drivers, 1031 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,280 Speaker 5: but don't drink chapter. 1032 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,240 Speaker 2: Get it designated drinker? 1033 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 9: Alright, designated drink There we go, all right, I need 1034 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 9: somebody to drink from me. Yea, we need one more 1035 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 9: designated drink. Come on, now we go, I mean cost 1036 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 9: son and. 1037 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 2: Uh so, we're gonna give you two choices. 1038 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 8: If you pick one of these two choices, nobody drinks, right, 1039 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 8: nobody yet what We're gonna give you two choices. 1040 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 2: Okay, you say one over, you know you pick one. 1041 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,479 Speaker 5: Nobody drinks if you say both of neither, which would 1042 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 5: be the politically correct. 1043 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 8: And we all drinking here. We're all taking a shot. 1044 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 8: And please dive into any stories with anybody we mentioned. 1045 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 8: This is about, you know, bringing up any stories with 1046 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 8: these folks. 1047 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:10,359 Speaker 2: That's rock, that's rock, baby, cal Knile or cross cars Carl? 1048 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 2: Can I you know why? I would like to know what? 1049 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 2: Because I had a dreamer on the arrange rover one day. 1050 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 2: You had a dreamer on the arranged robo. Okay, that 1051 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 2: was one of my goals. And Karl kan I made 1052 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 2: an ad in the ski hat and here's some skis 1053 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,959 Speaker 2: on sitting next to a range rover, and I said, 1054 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 2: that's gonna be me one day. 1055 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 10: How can I with a big fucking uh uh encouragement 1056 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 10: to me to go on? Can for some red ask 1057 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 10: you this that question, that's my guy. I'm asking you 1058 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,919 Speaker 10: claiming you don't drink. Nobody drinks. 1059 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 5: Nobody drinks if. 1060 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 2: You don't pay, you don't ye nas or l j 1061 00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 2: ll cool j no. 1062 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 5: Niche or Esco Esco because we own a little bit 1063 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 5: of that. Shout out to man, shout out to Will. 1064 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 5: That's the best part ever, Jay z or Biggie Smalls. Baby, 1065 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 5: that's pretty easy. 1066 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, don't. We're throwing at you too, and 1067 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 2: it's just for you guys, big old day baby, you 1068 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 2: got it? 1069 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, fat form or rock Aware, fat Phone, Okay, Tupac 1070 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 5: or d m X. 1071 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:51,720 Speaker 2: Got me d m X man, you want. 1072 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 5: Us to drink ko either There you go, There you go. 1073 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a tough one. Any interaction Pcer, I 1074 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 2: know you know one of my my regrets. I don't 1075 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 2: think we ever had interactional pop. I said, what's up 1076 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 2: to him? Once? 1077 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 6: I don't think I've ever even seen him, man, really, 1078 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 6: I never I don't think. I don't think I haven't 1079 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 6: seen him. I heard he's in the club one time 1080 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 6: when I was there. Man, you know what I love 1081 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,919 Speaker 6: about the park. 1082 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 5: If you ask ten different people ten anything about tens 1083 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 5: of people get ten different stories really, which I now 1084 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 5: know because I'm married to a Gemini, so I know that. 1085 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 2: Gemini bro it is hm hm. 1086 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 5: Tommy Hill Figure or Nordica going to Okay, yeah you 1087 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 5: want this one? 1088 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 2: Walkerware or Maurice Malone walk Away. 1089 00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: Like that's my homie. I mean, no, no disrespect the Maurice. 1090 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: I love him too. 1091 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 2: But Big Home Basaci or Gucci. 1092 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, man, that's a that's a that's a tough one. 1093 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 6: Both of them, Yeah, both of them a legendary. Both 1094 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 6: of them got the that's a tough one. That's a 1095 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:23,879 Speaker 6: tough one. 1096 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:36,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, crop called Quest or Brand Nubia, that's a good one. 1097 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 2: Lynden Bulle, Linden Bulla on that polo ship, I'm going 1098 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 2: with something to get come on, grand It wasn't okay, okay, 1099 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 2: so I ain't. I'm still gonna go with my guys 1100 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 2: from London, Lyndon Boulevard, Baby Salt Pepper or j J. 1101 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 2: Fag No, that would be your baby Colosseum or girch More. 1102 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 2: I'm going down. We're going Calseeum. 1103 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: That's the Fresh seven over there. 1104 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 5: Man. You know earlier when we spoke about you guys 1105 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 5: selling shirts and hats. 1106 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 2: In my mind, it was on the coliseum. Let me 1107 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 2: tell you this a quick story. It's two stories. 1108 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 4: Is that because me and Damon worked in the colseum 1109 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 4: get the funk out of hopcoin stand together. That's how 1110 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 4: we That's how we went our first jobs together. 1111 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 2: Wow, before church is chicken. But but we started. 1112 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 4: Easter Sunday was the first day we went out with 1113 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 4: our hats and from the I'll see them all to 1114 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 4: start our business because I was it. 1115 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 2: Anniversary. 1116 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 6: Yes, it was thirty five years ago that we stood 1117 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 6: outside in the corner Carl and I and I always 1118 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 6: say this story I tell you, but I always tell 1119 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 6: the story. I was by myself, but I wasn't because 1120 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 6: you know, back from the hood, you're never going to 1121 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 6: where body. You don't even go to the corner store. 1122 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 6: You take a walk with me, right and I need 1123 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 6: a call and he needed me because if we didn't 1124 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 6: know we were going to tell anybody. I had eight 1125 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 6: dred we had eight hundred dollars together and now all 1126 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 6: of a sudden thinking about who gonna rob us? It 1127 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,240 Speaker 6: was a good and then uh then good Friday nineteen 1128 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 6: eighty nine because I remember and my memories fucked up. 1129 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 6: So I remember going to shirt Kings and thinking I 1130 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 6: saw a footbel shirt there. 1131 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 2: Key cousin worked the shirt Kings big time. 1132 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 5: Way back there, like back to I was like, you know, 1133 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 5: go to see him for me, and I know this 1134 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 5: is going to really sound like like like that was 1135 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 5: like I didn't know no other fly. 1136 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah that was that was it is everything? 1137 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 5: That was it. 1138 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 6: I mean what you were thinking about it was Coliseum 1139 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 6: shirt King right, it was, mister Lee. If you want 1140 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,919 Speaker 6: to get some pressure on all you didn't have money 1141 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 6: for that, but Dan that yes. 1142 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 2: Ye. 1143 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 5: When when I when I moved around the world and 1144 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 5: they called their spot flea markets, but that's what coliseum. 1145 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 2: I was like, like, are USA flee market out here? 1146 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 2: What they calling that? 1147 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 5: L a If you say this is the crazyes shit is? 1148 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 5: If you say to me the coliseum, I'm like, yeah, 1149 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 5: I'm with it. What do you say to me that 1150 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 5: coming to the flea walk? 1151 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 6: The same I got my first back gold chamber in 1152 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 6: the Policum. I think it was two dollars a yard. 1153 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 6: You get you remember, get the rope chain in the 1154 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 6: turn Green like the. 1155 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 2: Same night, tell me nothing but you got you gotta 1156 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 2: remember Kyle c. M didn't sell fake ship. They had real. 1157 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 5: So it was a fleet market. That's the time between 1158 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 5: that the fleet markets. You have a real store right 1159 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 5: here in the fleet market and you got it. 1160 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 2: It's bootleg. 1161 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 5: You got the. 1162 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 2: Big difference. Okay, you said, I got the next one 1163 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 2: podcast of radio radio. 1164 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 3: Come on football radio, Man radio talking about home radio. 1165 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 3: As we talk, we get a license drink that Shaun John, 1166 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 3: let's drink. 1167 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 6: You gotta drink, you gotta drink, you gotta drink. You know, 1168 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 6: Mark will show edgy with his from that side and John. 1169 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 6: But but when Echo had the tapes that came with it, 1170 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 6: I was like that and then Denean it took it 1171 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 6: to a high level with a lot of the firs 1172 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 6: and a lot of all this love. 1173 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 2: You know, they kept it kept it going, you know 1174 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 2: what I mean? And you know, oh. 1175 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 5: It's this style wise but you could you can answer 1176 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 5: where you want da Dad or Google. 1177 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 2: Loo oh what googy look goovy lot. Yeah it's really whatever. 1178 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah I'm taking a shot. I'm shocked. Then, like that 1179 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 2: really a story behind us. We don't know the story. 1180 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: Behind it, but it's just like little jabs that we 1181 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 1: don't understand like we always show respect, but you know, 1182 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: a no call has some understanding on. 1183 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 5: That, you know it is. 1184 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 2: It's not even about that, it's about I think. Even 1185 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 2: when it came to I think, what's his name? What's 1186 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 2: my man named? Jim Jones he said something not so 1187 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,080 Speaker 2: long ago about. 1188 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 4: Our catching hallm didn't fuck with football, And at that 1189 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 4: time I was in sales of football. I was head 1190 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 4: of sales, so I knew the numbers we were writing 1191 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 4: with Sammy's to catch one forty fifth. I knew they 1192 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 4: were making millions of dollars with our brand, and I 1193 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 4: knew camp. I knew what bas is wearing our ship. 1194 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 4: I knew Cameron's wearing our ship. And for him to 1195 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 4: come in and say that Harlem didn't fuck with Fooble, 1196 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 4: it just it touched me the wrong way. So when 1197 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,919 Speaker 4: you come to DAP, he never showed us much love. 1198 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 4: Jim never show us much love, even though he tried 1199 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 4: to do the same thing we tried to do with 1200 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 4: that vampire shit. He should know how hard this business 1201 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 4: is and how hard for us to maintain what we're doing. 1202 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 4: To try to say we ain't ship to kind of 1203 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 4: rubbed me the wrong way. But with that being said, 1204 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 4: though we love Harlem Hallow. 1205 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 2: Always loved us and we'll be backing so us over 1206 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 2: there soon. You know. You know what's crazy? 1207 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 5: You know Rap, it's like so competitive, right, and everyone 1208 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 5: is always at each other. And the other day I 1209 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 5: had lunch with Dave Chappelle, right, and I kind of like, 1210 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 5: I kind of. 1211 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 2: Like, it's just mean like that. 1212 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 5: I kind of laughed at I kind of laughed at 1213 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 5: him because I was like, finally Comedians is going through 1214 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 5: it with and I'm like, I'm sorry, but I kind 1215 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 5: of like can't get the heat. So it's like the 1216 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 5: fact that because Rap, we didn't see human at at first, 1217 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 5: like you know, you're getting money and now start beefing 1218 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 5: like that ship don't don't make no sense. But to 1219 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 5: see it in other worlds, like a part of me 1220 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 5: was like, damn, that's real. Like y'all go through it too, 1221 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 5: like I didn't. I didn't think of it like that. 1222 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 5: I thought, I this is what I thought, what you 1223 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 5: swear to God. I know I'm mad, naive you forgive me, 1224 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 5: but I thought, y'all all cool ya by yall you 1225 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 5: see each other and can cool party? And I think 1226 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 5: the whole fashion, the whole you know what I'm. 1227 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: Saying, it's no chief, It's just that, you know, it's 1228 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: just a lot of a lot of ship we've been 1229 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: through behind the scenes that people don't know about. 1230 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 2: Like they see the story. 1231 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: You know, we know Damion Mortgage's house for you know, 1232 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars, and we did deal with Samsung 1233 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: and all of that, but they don't know the extortion plots. 1234 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 1: They don't know the deep ship that we be going 1235 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: through behind closed doors. And while we talk about putting 1236 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,919 Speaker 1: out a documentary, let me tell you know, so let's 1237 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: talk about some of that ship. Because by the way, 1238 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: we've been holding back the doc and the series, right 1239 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 1: because every time like Hollywood talks to us and they go, 1240 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 1: they always do docks and series about stories and somebody 1241 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: end up dead or in jail or crime bas African 1242 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 1: American whatever, and they always go when we tell our 1243 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 1: sorry about what happened. So when they go, so one 1244 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: of you all are in jail now, somebody getting weaned 1245 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 1: up a p dough No no, no, no, no, you'll 1246 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 1: also alive. Yeah, but what happened was when we came up, 1247 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: as I said, homophobic culture that nobody thought we were 1248 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: making money. 1249 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 2: So what happened? 1250 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 6: And nobody grabbed on to us from the streets and 1251 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 6: none of the supreme Remember we come up with supreme teams. 1252 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 6: We come up with with Tommy Montana and Queens and like, 1253 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 6: we come up with all these guys who we was 1254 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 6: in encore where they usually try to grab on you 1255 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 6: before you come up, but we come up silently. All 1256 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 6: of a sudden, three hundred and fifty million dollars are 1257 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 6: going through a system. You got now the yakuza in 1258 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 6: Japan and China going, you got to make the clothes 1259 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 6: over here with us? 1260 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 2: They took you this, yeah, or something going to happen. 1261 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 6: You got a buyer at a store who's like, I'll 1262 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 6: buy ten million dollars worth of shit, but I need 1263 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 6: a house, right, You got, you got, you got the 1264 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 6: you got the mob going? Is the one hundred million 1265 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 6: dollars coming into your warehouse? Just claim insurance from five 1266 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 6: million dollars. Don't work about it. It's not gonna be 1267 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 6: there when you got there. If you don't, it's a 1268 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 6: washing machine. 1269 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 2: If you don't. 1270 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 6: The way worse than that, you got the streets seeing 1271 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 6: us coming out going three hundred and fifty million almost 1272 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,840 Speaker 6: be under your mattress. So now we got to hire 1273 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 6: the due We got to hire the person somebody guards 1274 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 6: who used to run who used to deal with the 1275 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 6: tunnel and Union Square. To know that they're gonna be 1276 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 6: able to deal with the streets. You got to start 1277 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 6: trying to move your family out of it because they 1278 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 6: ain't gonna get to you. Well, you know, the worst 1279 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 6: person ever get kidnapped aint the person getting kidnapped, it's 1280 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 6: the friend next to them, because those are the fingers 1281 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 6: are going to show up at the house. We have 1282 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 6: all coming to us at the same time, right and 1283 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 6: we're trying to push this away because we're just trying to. 1284 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 2: Make clothes, trying to run a business. 1285 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 6: Yeh, When you got that kind of system happening, there's 1286 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 6: a lot of things that happen, and there's a lot 1287 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 6: of hate that happens too, because your clothing brands not 1288 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 6: working because ours is. 1289 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 2: We're not trying to do anything. It's just not your time. 1290 01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 5: Son. 1291 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 2: I want you to tell your story. He's so bad, 1292 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 2: because we're gonna tell that story one day. 1293 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 5: Because it just looked like it just looked like there 1294 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 5: was no nothing. It just looked like, y'all just dump. 1295 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 5: I was four cars away when Biggie got shot. 1296 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 2: In front of them. We was party just up to them. 1297 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we sent them a bottle of dump and he 1298 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 1: raised his bottle up. We raised our bottle up. 1299 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 2: We got story. 1300 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 6: We got remember party and everybody's trying to fight and 1301 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 6: all that stuff. We're just trying to dress everybody. 1302 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 2: Man. We in between everything. East Coast, West Coast. 1303 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 6: Shug Shug shows up at one of our parties that 1304 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 6: we're throwing for Lennox Lewis after party, the promoter was 1305 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 6: a promoter from La so he had to let Shuk in. 1306 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 6: But then my bodyguards had to go to Sugar and 1307 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 6: say get that out of here because Puff's coming in. 1308 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,640 Speaker 6: And so that was so we gotta we gotta beef 1309 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 6: in the streets with Sugar that we don't gotta beef. 1310 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 6: But my dudes had to settle it because now they 1311 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 6: had you know, they have their they're deep. 1312 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,439 Speaker 2: Well, my my dudes. Our dude is our ex Navy seal. 1313 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 2: We got we we got all kind of stuff. We're 1314 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,640 Speaker 2: just trying to dress people. Many want a shirt home boy, 1315 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 2: We got a lot of Yeah, man, we talk about 1316 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 2: third world countries. One say about foot is four different stories. 1317 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, we we try to stop the counterfeit is on 1318 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 5: twenty seventh Street and Manhattan, and we tried to stop them, 1319 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 5: and we found out that a lot of those are 1320 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 5: these organizations over seves that don't do well for the 1321 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 5: for for the world. 1322 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 6: I don't want to say their name. Three hundred people 1323 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 6: come out of those buildings and start and start chasing. 1324 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 6: We have we have off duty cops. They saw whipping 1325 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 6: the cops. He got key got caught up in it. 1326 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 6: Uh that was in the hospital, called me and that's 1327 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 6: written up in the paper. Because you have all these 1328 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 6: counterfeits coming out. You know, if football did let's say 1329 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 6: we did ten billion over the years, counterfit has did 1330 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 6: fifty billion. 1331 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 2: Wow. 1332 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 6: So it's a lot of stuff in our world that Listen, 1333 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 6: there's nobody gonna do three three hundred, two hundred million 1334 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,200 Speaker 6: dollars worth of business annually without a lot of people 1335 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 6: wanted to get paid. 1336 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 2: This this is this is the reason why y'all got 1337 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 2: a really really really we got We're gonna tell him 1338 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 2: the story. Oh no, we got stories today. 1339 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 5: What about the fatty girl set who walked onto the 1340 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,120 Speaker 5: Fatty Girls set and we put that. 1341 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 2: We couldn't put that tape out. We got O. J. 1342 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 1: Simpson and Fatty Girl video like dancing. 1343 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:34,400 Speaker 2: With Superhead with handcuffs on, the handcuffs on Lucas had 1344 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 2: to chain. 1345 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 1: Know, Luca's chain with the head. 1346 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 2: That's what with the jelly telling the story. And OJ just. 1347 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Popped out of nowhere. He came there him his Superhead 1348 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,160 Speaker 1: dance and he got to change. 1349 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 6: You know, he looks as he looks at he looks 1350 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 6: at Ludifer says, I know what those are, and there 1351 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 6: were handcuffs. He put the handcuff gold chain around him, 1352 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 6: Superhead current stuff and starts dancing with him. 1353 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 2: He shoots the video. 1354 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 5: I got it still locked up because soon as Hype 1355 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 5: William put the video together, we grew up with Hype two. 1356 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 2: He was on tour with us. We showed it to 1357 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 2: so they go, you can't put that video universe. No, 1358 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 2: we showed the universe. 1359 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 5: They said, no store will ever carry your stuff because 1360 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 5: you are promoting O. J. 1361 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 1: Simpsons. 1362 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 2: So I'm assuming this is after the right. Okay, he came. 1363 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:29,000 Speaker 5: We love that. Anyway, We've been doing a lot Man 1364 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 5: Academics or l r G it's the same you gotta 1365 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 5: drink that now, the same style, same same thing. 1366 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 2: I didn't think I know the owners Polo or Perry 1367 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:56,720 Speaker 2: Ellis Polo. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna keep it real. 1368 01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it real with you cast that with Pole. 1369 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 2: Its cringes me though, because the bottom of line, the 1370 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,640 Speaker 2: bottom line. I feel like this. 1371 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 4: There's so many black owned brands right now that are 1372 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 4: so ding. Let's forget Fooble's on this thing. But to 1373 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 4: put that much energy and influence and and an effort 1374 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 4: behind a brand that literally does nothing for your community, it. 1375 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,640 Speaker 2: Just it just it does be the wrong way. I 1376 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 2: look at this. 1377 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 4: When we started, we build a company based upon young 1378 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 4: black and and people of color, hiring them, give them jobs, opportunities, 1379 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 4: and without companies like ours, without supporting companies like ours, 1380 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 4: a lot of these kids would never had the opportunity 1381 01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,240 Speaker 4: that we gave. 1382 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 2: Some of these kids. Now now some exectuves have Adidas. 1383 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 4: Puma, They're doing things that they would never had the 1384 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 4: opportunity to do without Fooble. So we need more, Like 1385 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 4: jac said, we need more food booths because a lot 1386 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 4: of kids just won't get those opportunities about it. So 1387 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 4: when I say fuck Polo, nothing personally to that cat 1388 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,519 Speaker 4: Ralph Weber's name is. But it's just to that energy 1389 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 4: that you give those brands as opposed to where you 1390 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 4: can put you could really put your. 1391 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 6: Recent Here's what, here's it, and this is why we're 1392 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 6: all the great partners. So what the way talking about? 1393 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 6: If we feel some cast that says something negative or not, 1394 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 6: I'll always going to be and he'll do the vice 1395 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,639 Speaker 6: versus mean I'll be the devil's advocate. Well, maybe Jim 1396 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 6: the group he hung out with never rocked it, so 1397 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 6: that was his experience. Maybe maybe adapt this and that 1398 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 6: maybe Ralph Lauren made Tyson Beckford, and Tyson Beckford was 1399 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 6: the first African American male supermodel that I know, right, 1400 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:52,680 Speaker 6: And maybe Ralph Lauren inspired it. 1401 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,759 Speaker 2: Ain't Ralph though, to step up his game. 1402 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 6: And so we'll always have these healthy debates, and I 1403 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 6: think that that's what makes that's what creates innovation. I 1404 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 6: don't disagree with call, and I don't agree with call 1405 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 6: and vice versa. 1406 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. 1407 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,639 Speaker 8: I can't forget that a lot of the Polo thing 1408 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 8: was people were boosting it and in the sense. 1409 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,880 Speaker 5: That was a protest, and a lot of community is 1410 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 5: a pro but you know, there was people do something. 1411 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 4: From an economic economical state point, the bottom line is 1412 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 4: if companies like Hours don't survive, young creative people don't 1413 01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 4: have the chances that they would have if we do. 1414 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 1: So I agree, well, you know what you know, I like. 1415 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,400 Speaker 1: I like what we're doing now is we're spreading the 1416 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,800 Speaker 1: business out. It's just not clothing, you know, it's radio, 1417 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,680 Speaker 1: it's TV, you know, things of that nature. I've been 1418 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,560 Speaker 1: doing food with radio for the last eight years, you 1419 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's interesting, you know what 1420 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's a challenge, it's not easy, but we've 1421 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: turned the corner. And you know, did a deal with 1422 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 1: you forty two. My people at U forty two were 1423 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 1: building an eighteen stage did an eighteen stage studio in Atlanta, right, So, 1424 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 1: like we're working on some other things. You know what 1425 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying that. 1426 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 4: With the with the revenue, with the capital from your supporters, 1427 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,680 Speaker 4: I mean, the bottom line is you're gonna spend your 1428 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,920 Speaker 4: dollars somewhere and. 1429 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you, I'm I'm gonna throw it back 1430 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,560 Speaker 6: in drink Champs I see your production crew, and I 1431 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 6: see everybody here. It's a healthy mix of beautiful people 1432 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,000 Speaker 6: of all colors. And I think that what happens is 1433 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 6: when I look at a lot of production crews, they 1434 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,759 Speaker 6: only look one way, right. I think that the beauty 1435 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 6: of what you do right here is everybody comes up 1436 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,280 Speaker 6: with they get the best out of both. You show 1437 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,719 Speaker 6: these major companies right here that you can make money 1438 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 6: keeping it real with a real uh crew mixer, And 1439 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 6: I think that collectively, I think sometimes that's where Carl 1440 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 6: and I may disagree because maybe it was the fact 1441 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 6: that it was you know, they maybe don't do as 1442 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 6: much of the community in this way, but inspire the 1443 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 6: community this way. 1444 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:08,760 Speaker 5: So you know that you know, but because you know, 1445 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 5: I don't want to tell you tell it to you. 1446 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 5: I remember if we had Shaquille O'Niel sitting right here 1447 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 5: right and I say this, Shaq, like, how much I like. 1448 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:20,479 Speaker 2: Autem are right? 1449 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,840 Speaker 5: I'm like, I like I like autom off And Shaq 1450 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 5: looks at me and he goes, I know a mar 1451 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 5: cares about me? Do you think they care about you? 1452 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:33,599 Speaker 5: And I had to think, like I was like, because 1453 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:38,680 Speaker 5: it's true. Sometimes it's not just automor. It's like Rolex, like, 1454 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 5: people don't really know. 1455 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,440 Speaker 2: Who's my favorite watch right now? Which one is? Which watch? 1456 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:43,840 Speaker 6: Why? 1457 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 2: Because it makes me money? Goddamn it pays No, not 1458 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:57,040 Speaker 2: even watch. I would a militant one. The reality is. 1459 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,560 Speaker 4: It's creating well for me, opportunities for me, you know 1460 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,120 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So this means more to me than 1461 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 4: any role exactly. Shout out to Jacks King of Licensing. Yeah, 1462 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,439 Speaker 4: he's let me ask you, let me ask you. 1463 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,640 Speaker 5: I saw I can't say this, say this, say this 1464 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 5: brother name, right, but I saw the dude and he 1465 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,600 Speaker 5: was he was really like trying to just swear just 1466 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:24,559 Speaker 5: black owned ship. 1467 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,040 Speaker 2: Right. It's just that he's just he picked the worst brands, right, 1468 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 2: he just. 1469 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,720 Speaker 5: I'm looking like, man, you need to go back to 1470 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 5: tell now, like right, all wrong? Man, he don't know 1471 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 5: exactly about him too. I think he knew exactly who 1472 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:40,679 Speaker 5: you were talking. 1473 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,479 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know. 1474 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 5: He said the people, Yeah, the people don't to okay, 1475 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:54,200 Speaker 5: but sometimes the quality is not the same when you 1476 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,720 Speaker 5: wanted to just support your people, right, Like like I's 1477 01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 5: suppose if I wanted to Puerto Rican food, like like today. 1478 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 2: I called my engineer has who We always eat vegetarian 1479 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,559 Speaker 2: Jamaican food. Don't ask me why. We just like it right, 1480 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:09,960 Speaker 2: we mean it. 1481 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 5: But today I purposely knew I was going to a 1482 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,440 Speaker 5: Jamaica stood and I knew I was gonna be just expected. 1483 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 2: What I want. Y, you're gonna get the abuse. 1484 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:25,080 Speaker 1: Like I knew that. 1485 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:26,639 Speaker 2: I knew that was coming out. 1486 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,400 Speaker 5: But it was like, damn, Like I'm you like when 1487 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 5: I sometimes go to our people, I know that it's 1488 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 5: it's like, yo, you're supposed to be here. 1489 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,720 Speaker 2: It's like nah. So my wife ordered the food right 1490 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 2: and she was like, yo. I was like, can you 1491 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 2: order it for me? 1492 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 5: I'm about to get a haircut, I'm going out and 1493 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 5: she was like, yo, if my employees talk to me 1494 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,840 Speaker 5: the way this because my wife owns a juice bar, 1495 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:52,720 Speaker 5: all right, So she's like, if my employees just talked 1496 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,280 Speaker 5: to me, And I had to tell her, no, man, 1497 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 5: that's is Jamaican ship, like. 1498 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 2: Like I'm used to it. You brace yourself before you 1499 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,559 Speaker 2: can do so sometimes, so this is the point I'm 1500 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:04,360 Speaker 2: trying to make, right. 1501 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:11,479 Speaker 5: Sometimes when you support just the culture, some of the 1502 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 5: some of the products aren't that great. 1503 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:18,560 Speaker 6: Are you know the foundation of what when some of 1504 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 6: the things we created was prior to that. Besides cross color, 1505 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,559 Speaker 6: you had to wear kin take cloth colors to support 1506 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,080 Speaker 6: African American businesses, and then cross clothes came out and 1507 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,240 Speaker 6: they broke them all. They inspired me. But I don't 1508 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:37,880 Speaker 6: want to wear no orange or yellow everything. The little 1509 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 6: characters shirts and they wrink they're going after one. We 1510 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:49,760 Speaker 6: always and you're right, I don't care what organization color. 1511 01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 6: You got to step up your game and you got 1512 01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 6: to prepare. And we should not support those companies that 1513 01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,720 Speaker 6: do that because we should give them a shot, give 1514 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,680 Speaker 6: me a second shot. Put on notice, support somebody else 1515 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,599 Speaker 6: caause there's somebody else who's trying to make it better. 1516 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 2: But you know what I mean. 1517 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,560 Speaker 6: But I do want to you know, instead of like 1518 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 6: you know, I do want to talk about the people 1519 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 6: who do support food with today. You know what, we 1520 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 6: realize the people who support food today people don't. 1521 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,560 Speaker 2: Let's talk about people who do. The ones who do. 1522 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 6: That's right, highly educated, highly educated people all with people 1523 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,720 Speaker 6: with a lot of money because they can pick from 1524 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:26,200 Speaker 6: anything and they don't just do fool So you'll see 1525 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 6: like old school people in their thirty to forty they'll 1526 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 6: buy the shoes, whatever, because they can pick anything and 1527 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,800 Speaker 6: they say, hey, I'm going to make ten percent of 1528 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,600 Speaker 6: my wardrobe. That also, you'll see like a lot of 1529 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,800 Speaker 6: the young artists who are very pro that they're doing. 1530 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,519 Speaker 6: They have a silent message everywhere, Like I know, Drake 1531 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 6: supports it a lot for the other artists, younger the 1532 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 6: artists Scissors support all the time. 1533 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 2: Who else? Yadi? Who are so? 1534 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 1: What's a girl? 1535 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:55,719 Speaker 6: So a lot of a lot of the music artists 1536 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,400 Speaker 6: today who are trying to do a kind of like 1537 01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 6: a little like people they're doing the l who j 1538 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,840 Speaker 6: they're doing subliminal and what's. 1539 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,639 Speaker 5: Dope about it? Let me just stop me for a second. 1540 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,519 Speaker 5: Was dope about it? If they're discovering it just now? 1541 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 5: But most of them want to pay homage. They want 1542 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:13,720 Speaker 5: to pay homage. They want to say they want to 1543 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,240 Speaker 5: rock with their favorite rappers, rock when they favorite rappers rocket. 1544 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,680 Speaker 5: And so I see that a lot like when you know, 1545 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,000 Speaker 5: I'll go through the malls or something like that and 1546 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,519 Speaker 5: I'll see like my sons or somebody like this, and 1547 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,639 Speaker 5: they'll they'll pick up and I'm like, I want to say, 1548 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 5: you don't no foot? 1549 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 2: Well he like, but but he does know he does. 1550 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,400 Speaker 6: He's he's seeing these videos and that's what it So 1551 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 6: when it's older people who know what it is and 1552 01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,559 Speaker 6: they have a choice of anything and everything, they choose 1553 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,799 Speaker 6: that the younger artists who are trying to do the subliminal. 1554 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,519 Speaker 6: And then a lot of times it's the younger kids 1555 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 6: who are saying, this is mine. I'm going to reset 1556 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 6: this thing off because I'm creating an identity that you 1557 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,640 Speaker 6: don't know about. They're very pro conscious and those are 1558 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,320 Speaker 6: the people that we again, like we've always tried to do. 1559 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 6: We always tried to appeal to those and not talk 1560 01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:57,640 Speaker 6: about the negatives of it. And I want to make 1561 01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:58,120 Speaker 6: sure you twist. 1562 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 8: But those girls the people that Yeah, so I was 1563 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 8: gonna say, the key to all that, even being successful, 1564 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,840 Speaker 8: is that there has to always be quality. You want 1565 01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,720 Speaker 8: to pay homage, the qualities got to be there. The 1566 01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,960 Speaker 8: new cat wants to come in and discover it. The 1567 01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 8: qualities got to be there. 1568 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 1: They think, I'm sorry. The thing about what we did 1569 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,800 Speaker 1: was we made sure we put the quality in the 1570 01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:21,760 Speaker 1: in our clothes. So people how we actually relaunched, you know, 1571 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 1: because everybody was doing anything, everyone both doing anything, But 1572 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,680 Speaker 1: how we be launched, was people started thrifting and the 1573 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:29,840 Speaker 1: clothes was they were fine. 1574 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:30,680 Speaker 2: They looked brand new. 1575 01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,200 Speaker 1: So then they started like posting, I'm bringing foodb back, 1576 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm bringing food, but I'm looking at these clothes like, damn, 1577 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 1: Jackie looks brand new. The sweatshow looks brand new? 1578 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,719 Speaker 6: You brother, I mean, obviously my crew got it because 1579 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 6: you know, and a lot of this stuff is not. 1580 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,200 Speaker 6: We did a collaborational pullman barons the other thing. But 1581 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 6: one of your brothers on set, he got a jersey 1582 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 6: we didn't make that. We made that jersey twenty years ago. Yeah, 1583 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:52,719 Speaker 6: yellow jerseys. 1584 01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 5: He made it yesterday. That's twenty years old. Man looked 1585 01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 5: like his brand new you and and you know what 1586 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:02,920 Speaker 5: I'm saying, so. 1587 01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,800 Speaker 2: But that this is the quality because we was kids 1588 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,880 Speaker 2: that we said how we're going to make this. It's 1589 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,040 Speaker 2: the way we wanted to make it. Wait, hold on, 1590 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 2: hold on, just catching on what you just say? Hold on, 1591 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:20,479 Speaker 2: hold on, I'm saying that shirts twenty years old. Yeah, store, 1592 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,880 Speaker 2: that's important, a little over twenty years old. 1593 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,920 Speaker 5: That's by the way, he shout out the top partner Jay, 1594 01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,280 Speaker 5: because when Jay first used to come home and close 1595 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:33,400 Speaker 5: that he spent all the money on. 1596 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,240 Speaker 6: I used to look at him. He was crazy, and 1597 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 6: he said, that's an investment. And he always pushed the 1598 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 6: quality partner. 1599 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 5: We're not in the in the in the podcast, yeah, 1600 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 5: six out of Gucci, Gucci pezz and only week a month. 1601 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,160 Speaker 2: But his pas was Chris, well, okay, we're still a 1602 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,559 Speaker 2: quick time. Yeah, video music box or you're on TV 1603 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,360 Speaker 2: Rapp video music Box all day, the music box. I 1604 01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:57,800 Speaker 2: love that. 1605 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 5: Rap the Ors or double x l anybody Double had 1606 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:05,799 Speaker 5: batter Bitches gez. 1607 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:12,360 Speaker 2: He said, what Yeah, just giving one hundred different magazine. 1608 01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:13,439 Speaker 2: That's a different magazine. 1609 01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 11: Many Little Bunny and Little Man, I. 1610 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:28,320 Speaker 2: Said, sauce Man, I say the original source man Lost 1611 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:32,720 Speaker 2: Boys or Onyx, don't get chuff. You mayna take a 1612 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 2: drink for that one. I'm gonna be fine, you know what. 1613 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,479 Speaker 5: You know what mister Cheeks was on our album. But 1614 01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 5: Donnie used to be a barbers. Yeah, I just interviewed cheer. 1615 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, used to stick Fred Roll with my ball but 1616 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,920 Speaker 2: before he made it. Yeah, right there by the girl 1617 01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,120 Speaker 2: GIRs mall that's wild. 1618 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:02,040 Speaker 1: Show. 1619 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:10,160 Speaker 2: I understand the story. I've never heard the actual they 1620 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:11,200 Speaker 2: told you the right. 1621 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 5: It's just me on the back of my neck one. 1622 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:19,000 Speaker 5: I still got that thing right now. I was like, Yo, 1623 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 5: make out the studio, man, this can you hit. 1624 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,639 Speaker 2: This really quick? Out? Holy ship? 1625 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:24,160 Speaker 12: That is? 1626 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 2: That is so man? Check out the archives. Drink. 1627 01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you listen like Walker floggers his mom, 1628 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,639 Speaker 5: dad who discovered Nicki Minaj. They fought out a four 1629 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:37,280 Speaker 5: house away from and be so Bimmy. 1630 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,519 Speaker 6: You know Bey, he've been on the show. So when 1631 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,040 Speaker 6: Bemmy was when when I was about I was about 1632 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 6: I was about seven. I think Bimmy was about four. 1633 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:49,880 Speaker 6: I hit him in my garage because I ain't have 1634 01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,880 Speaker 6: no other I have no I have no brothers and sisters. 1635 01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 6: And he was about four and I hit him my 1636 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:56,280 Speaker 6: garage and my mom was. 1637 01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 2: Like, who that was pop? No, it was a pop 1638 01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:00,360 Speaker 2: was little brother. 1639 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:00,960 Speaker 5: Oh. 1640 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,479 Speaker 2: They were like you gotta go outside. I got a 1641 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 2: patent garage. She's like, what are you gonna cross now? 1642 01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,600 Speaker 6: Mammy and Joe and all them they got like a 1643 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,720 Speaker 6: hundred they got like a hundred brothers and sisters and 1644 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,800 Speaker 6: they you know, my mother like you got one of 1645 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 6: the Antony's in the gar But Dad who Walker clock 1646 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,760 Speaker 6: was Moms like we are like we all walk and 1647 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 6: not like we all grew up with all these people. 1648 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:30,760 Speaker 2: Man I was. I was on the other side too. Yeah, 1649 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:35,360 Speaker 2: Karens want to rock him, rock rock Him. 1650 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 1: See that was like one of the first joints I've 1651 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,919 Speaker 1: seen wording for work, which. 1652 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,840 Speaker 6: One seven holes in my face and I'm looking at 1653 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 6: the window. Come on, man, the guard, God God, rock 1654 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:51,439 Speaker 6: rock Him is the game? 1655 01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 1: Chan take seventy. 1656 01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:01,519 Speaker 2: Peyden. He's still saying, ain't ever cursed. It was just crazy. 1657 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:02,960 Speaker 2: How did you swear he cursed? 1658 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,240 Speaker 5: You know, I went my whole life without not realizing 1659 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:07,920 Speaker 5: that Rock Him did not curse. That. 1660 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the ill ship you never heard. But that 1661 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,040 Speaker 2: was the most gangsters music you ever heard. I don't 1662 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,400 Speaker 2: know how I even discovered that. Recently. I was like, 1663 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you're a liar. 1664 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 5: Rock Him cursed and I went through and I was like, Oh, 1665 01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,439 Speaker 5: this motherfucker not just did he not cursed? 1666 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,320 Speaker 2: It was gangster without him saying he gangster ship. You 1667 01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:27,800 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 1668 01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,080 Speaker 6: You know what we had on our Black Army Day 1669 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 6: that I never realized. I never realized that flavor Play 1670 01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,200 Speaker 6: played fourteen instruments. Oh he's a yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, 1671 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 6: yeah yeah, Yeah, he's the illness. He's I shot a 1672 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 6: video of playing flave. 1673 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah we need you on drink Champs and we have 1674 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 2: d but we need flavors. 1675 01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:49,439 Speaker 6: Huge swifty kind of broke open reality shows want the 1676 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,760 Speaker 6: first people to go. I think he went platinum, right, 1677 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,200 Speaker 6: you have a black planet with Public Enemy? 1678 01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,960 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, they so Matt records. It was crazy 1679 01:24:58,960 --> 01:24:59,760 Speaker 2: about Public Enemy. 1680 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,320 Speaker 5: They were speaking like they speak the most black prior 1681 01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:02,880 Speaker 5: shit ever. 1682 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,880 Speaker 2: You ever been to a public indemy show. You know 1683 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:13,600 Speaker 2: how many about yrdhood up you believe it or not. 1684 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,160 Speaker 6: There's a massive amount of people who are not remember 1685 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,920 Speaker 6: them by football these days. It's kind of like it's 1686 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:24,320 Speaker 6: Matt like with one of the top in Manila and 1687 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 6: one of the top in Europe and stuff like that. 1688 01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,040 Speaker 6: It's fascinating how they love our culture. If you ever 1689 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,719 Speaker 6: a look at the Bob Marley movie the first crowds 1690 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,000 Speaker 6: they went to Europe, remember we watched it together. 1691 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:37,519 Speaker 2: They went to. 1692 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,120 Speaker 5: Europe and they were hanging out with the crazy danging 1693 01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,680 Speaker 5: each other on their head CBGB like crazy. They were 1694 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,439 Speaker 5: getting ill fights to the white kids who were like, yeah, 1695 01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 5: there's a lot of times those cultures when you look 1696 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 5: at them they adopt each other. 1697 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 2: First, let me just. 1698 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,760 Speaker 5: Tell y'all the fly ship this guy did printed out 1699 01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,160 Speaker 5: the whole movie theater. I'm trying to I kind of 1700 01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 5: support Bob. I'm trying to buy something they like. No, sir, 1701 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 5: it's winter. Everything is free. I was like, fly, So 1702 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,200 Speaker 5: I say that to say, I still went out and 1703 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,240 Speaker 5: seen the Bob Mally the story because I felt like 1704 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,719 Speaker 5: that wasn't supporting may. It was like getting the screening, 1705 01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:18,080 Speaker 5: you know, private screening. 1706 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 2: But I still had to go. And by the way, I. 1707 01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:25,200 Speaker 5: Cried both times, man and shout, you know that movie. 1708 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,799 Speaker 5: I don't work for the family or nothing, but amazing 1709 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:36,120 Speaker 5: that ship is what's crazy like to hear your story 1710 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,559 Speaker 5: just say that, you know, you know that y'all deal. 1711 01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:42,080 Speaker 2: Would hate y'all deal with all this ship too. All 1712 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,559 Speaker 2: I hear is Bob Mally's beautiful music. 1713 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 5: And I realized I didn't know nothing about Bob, like 1714 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:53,759 Speaker 5: personally until I was interviewing Rohan. 1715 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 2: So I went and had to do that. 1716 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 5: And I was like when I found out all the 1717 01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:01,800 Speaker 5: ship that Bob went through and made beautiful music was 1718 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,960 Speaker 5: supposed to make Robby smurt of music this year he 1719 01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:05,439 Speaker 5: going through supposed to be making. 1720 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,719 Speaker 2: It felt like that's what the ps that bed feel 1721 01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 2: that way. He was like, I love you. Yeah. People 1722 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 2: are scared of love. People are scared of unity. 1723 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:21,080 Speaker 12: You know. 1724 01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,920 Speaker 6: It's so ill how our generation. So, my my oldest 1725 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:28,120 Speaker 6: daughter is thirty. I show a picture and that was 1726 01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:29,800 Speaker 6: the second I saw because I had the joy of 1727 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,320 Speaker 6: seeing it. The thing and I have a picture with 1728 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 6: the young man Bob. 1729 01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:32,960 Speaker 1: You know. 1730 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:37,040 Speaker 2: My daughter says, that's Ken from Barbie. Yes, that's. 1731 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:38,960 Speaker 1: Played. 1732 01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,960 Speaker 2: He played another can It was so she was like, 1733 01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:44,640 Speaker 2: who that's not. 1734 01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,679 Speaker 5: Shout out to that brother Kingston. One minute he bought 1735 01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:55,680 Speaker 5: the other minute he can. That's a good you know, 1736 01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,040 Speaker 5: right now we're talking about him. He's going to be 1737 01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:02,599 Speaker 5: whoever he is because he already he's Obama in another movie, 1738 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 5: No way Obama in another movie. I saw it, uh 1739 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,000 Speaker 5: not to be honest, the show like something. I've seen 1740 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:15,800 Speaker 5: him play Obama. So when I said, I think. 1741 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,720 Speaker 6: Out, you know what, that's how how old I am? 1742 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,240 Speaker 6: I thought that was his big shaka. When I took 1743 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 6: a picture with him, his head was ball. I said 1744 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,000 Speaker 6: to myself, if I was him, I've been working that 1745 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:25,880 Speaker 6: ball mally ship. I would have been like walking around 1746 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:26,120 Speaker 6: with him. 1747 01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:35,040 Speaker 5: By the way, you fucked me up since that day, 1748 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,680 Speaker 5: I mean running around with a Jamaica accident, and I. 1749 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:42,519 Speaker 2: Realized that people people don't find that funny. You've been 1750 01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 2: doing it on drinks I got. 1751 01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,280 Speaker 5: I went to Turk from who because I'm like, I 1752 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,639 Speaker 5: got a question with you. You just went to Paris, 1753 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 5: and so your life is good. 1754 01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,200 Speaker 6: Hip hops be really good to us, man, and I 1755 01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,600 Speaker 6: appreciate that because you show us how we have that 1756 01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,720 Speaker 6: work balance. When I'm in Paris, my wife says to 1757 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 6: me that I'm culturally culturally inappropriate when I'm like, how 1758 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:08,800 Speaker 6: do you say? 1759 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 8: Is it? 1760 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,640 Speaker 2: I don't use that, but I'm not. 1761 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,120 Speaker 5: It's not like if I'm not like like I'm in 1762 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,639 Speaker 5: an Agian country and I'm not saying the word I'm going, 1763 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 5: you know, like Hong Kong. 1764 01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:30,439 Speaker 2: You know I'm going because I ain't gonna lie you. 1765 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:31,439 Speaker 5: He's not. 1766 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 2: Actually what your corporates rock right now? Do you? Outside 1767 01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,160 Speaker 2: off of town? I bought a reproree. I was out 1768 01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:44,479 Speaker 2: there and this friend dude. 1769 01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,599 Speaker 6: Said, Yo, ain't nobody left personal ward out years ago? 1770 01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,080 Speaker 6: You know, I gotta I love Paris and I got 1771 01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:52,880 Speaker 6: an accent. Man, am I being cultural, Yes you are, 1772 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:54,519 Speaker 6: what is it? 1773 01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:58,719 Speaker 2: So? I do it too. We we are actually trying 1774 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,880 Speaker 2: to show love, but we're so so it's like somebody 1775 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:06,679 Speaker 2: coming up to one of us, going your home. Exactly 1776 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,479 Speaker 2: they happened not to be a home boy. It's exactly that. 1777 01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,880 Speaker 2: All right, I got it now, and all right honey, honey, honey, 1778 01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:23,800 Speaker 2: I do it everywhere. I'm sorry. But the French don't 1779 01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,960 Speaker 2: like us anyway. They don't like anything. So I got 1780 01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,680 Speaker 2: my heart studies about France. Yeah, it's not fun. If 1781 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:36,679 Speaker 2: you're not from France, you are to them what England 1782 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:41,960 Speaker 2: I don't, but you know, I know, I know the 1783 01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 2: people to call. I know they don't like we know. 1784 01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,719 Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, let me just take you something. 1785 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,280 Speaker 2: A lot of places don't like America, that's true, but 1786 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,040 Speaker 2: but they were the first. They were first. They were 1787 01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,920 Speaker 2: first in the car. I donuld think England was the 1788 01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,920 Speaker 2: first who didn't like America. You walk in the hotel, 1789 01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,920 Speaker 2: when you say something the English, they would act like 1790 01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:07,760 Speaker 2: they don't know. I know, no, no, no, maybe now ye. 1791 01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:09,639 Speaker 8: Came. 1792 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,320 Speaker 1: I just went there in November, and I was kind 1793 01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,040 Speaker 1: of apprehensive by the little the little act trying to 1794 01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,519 Speaker 1: translate and but you speaking English, But. 1795 01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:19,800 Speaker 2: I sure do ye. 1796 01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:21,920 Speaker 5: I heard they like it because they like tips, and 1797 01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:23,400 Speaker 5: we're Americans, the only ones around. 1798 01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:28,160 Speaker 2: They just started liking tips. That's what I heard. Tip 1799 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:29,160 Speaker 2: the guys, which is this. 1800 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:44,840 Speaker 5: Mother, it's such a snucking a license drinks. It's such 1801 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,760 Speaker 5: a sexy language you cannot help. 1802 01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,559 Speaker 2: But not the way we're saying. We were sucking it up. 1803 01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,120 Speaker 6: But how come every time the people from overseas imitate 1804 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,240 Speaker 6: Americans days go, hey, y'all. 1805 01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:56,000 Speaker 2: It's the man. 1806 01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:58,519 Speaker 1: What's that mean? 1807 01:31:58,600 --> 01:31:58,840 Speaker 5: Brother? 1808 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:07,200 Speaker 2: All right, we're going on. It's perfectly on track. Oh 1809 01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:14,160 Speaker 2: Wu Tang clan. Oh, I'm gonna go w tank. I 1810 01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:15,880 Speaker 2: knew your New York wi for. 1811 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:16,439 Speaker 5: You know it is? 1812 01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:22,080 Speaker 2: I mean you got Ray Kwan. Let's be real, you 1813 01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:23,880 Speaker 2: got you got Ice. 1814 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,960 Speaker 5: And then when he joined P like he did one 1815 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:33,160 Speaker 5: album Scarface or ice Cube, ice Cube, Ice c All 1816 01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,560 Speaker 5: Day Court Mega. 1817 01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:41,960 Speaker 2: Or Nature cor Mega mm hmm, mob Deep or m 1818 01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:49,400 Speaker 2: O P. You could drink, you let them drink or 1819 01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,920 Speaker 2: not looking at it is what it is? 1820 01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:52,320 Speaker 5: Like? 1821 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:53,599 Speaker 9: Like that's. 1822 01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,800 Speaker 2: Heavy D or chump rock, heavy D, rest in peace, Man, 1823 01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:01,120 Speaker 2: he loved Heaven? 1824 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:07,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, Juice or New Jack City, No New Jack City, 1825 01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,479 Speaker 5: Jack City. All right, and this is the last question 1826 01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:11,920 Speaker 5: for quick Time is Slider and then you go back 1827 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,000 Speaker 5: and not a trick question, but it's not a trick question. 1828 01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:15,479 Speaker 2: But this is for all three of y'all. 1829 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:21,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna start with you, but I want individually answer individually. 1830 01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:30,560 Speaker 5: Loyalty or respect, respect, any reason why or not? 1831 01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:35,200 Speaker 1: No loyalty, come and go. You know what I'm saying. 1832 01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:40,280 Speaker 1: Like respect, if if somebody really respect you, that respect, 1833 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:42,080 Speaker 1: we should always be there or will always be there, 1834 01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Loyalty won't always be there. 1835 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,200 Speaker 1: You know, people change ship. You know what I'm saying. 1836 01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:51,600 Speaker 2: So no, hell yeah, loyalty. 1837 01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,880 Speaker 4: Explain well, I just I've just been to so much 1838 01:33:55,960 --> 01:34:00,200 Speaker 4: in my life to where I realized that the uh 1839 01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,200 Speaker 4: loyal people in my life that really suck me to 1840 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,599 Speaker 4: whatever this situation was, those are people that really matter. 1841 01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,280 Speaker 2: Now. I can, I can get disrespectful with motherfucking time. 1842 01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:12,280 Speaker 4: But if I'm loyal to you know what I'm saying, 1843 01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:16,080 Speaker 4: that that kind of oversees that that kind of overlooks everything. 1844 01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,360 Speaker 2: If I trust you, I'm fucking with you forever. 1845 01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:20,320 Speaker 5: M hm. 1846 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:25,640 Speaker 6: So purpose of loyalty is loyalty. There is no coming go. 1847 01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:32,160 Speaker 6: It's to be loyal, that's it. I respect what Genghis 1848 01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:35,720 Speaker 6: Kang did as a leader. I would never do it. 1849 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:40,479 Speaker 6: I would never rape and pillage. Loyalty is to be loyal. 1850 01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,760 Speaker 2: That's it. I'm taking a drink to that. I'm taking 1851 01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:45,040 Speaker 2: a drink. 1852 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,120 Speaker 5: By the way, I agree with all three answers for me. 1853 01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,759 Speaker 5: And if we always say you just say why not both. 1854 01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:51,200 Speaker 2: That this is this? 1855 01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,200 Speaker 5: This is the only time when we play quick time 1856 01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,000 Speaker 5: with Slive that we should say both, because I think 1857 01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:57,080 Speaker 5: one watches the other. 1858 01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,640 Speaker 2: But I agree with what everything that you said. My 1859 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,400 Speaker 2: and I just want both of the same time. 1860 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:09,680 Speaker 5: Go there you go. Now. At one point, Fooble, I 1861 01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,840 Speaker 5: think it was you who said it went like this, right. 1862 01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:18,599 Speaker 2: Me, this is what I said, Thank you, designated drink 1863 01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:27,880 Speaker 2: and me, I always say at home, my career is 1864 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:28,160 Speaker 2: like that. 1865 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:32,720 Speaker 5: Right. There's been times with rock Bottom like whatever as 1866 01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,800 Speaker 5: nor right, and I call it. 1867 01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:41,200 Speaker 2: I call it rat purgatory. M hmm. 1868 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:44,760 Speaker 5: Has it ever been a time where y'all felt like 1869 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:48,360 Speaker 5: y'all was in fashion purgatory where it's like, all right, cool, 1870 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:49,960 Speaker 5: they ain't fucking with us no more? 1871 01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,200 Speaker 2: Did you ever feel like that. Yeah, we saw it coming. 1872 01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,519 Speaker 4: If you shipping a million dollars a season to a 1873 01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:00,280 Speaker 4: certain retailer and they come to you next season order 1874 01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:00,720 Speaker 4: half of that. 1875 01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,080 Speaker 2: The next season they ordered the quarter that the writings 1876 01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:04,599 Speaker 2: on the wall. 1877 01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:09,439 Speaker 4: So we we had a sense of knowing that the 1878 01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,280 Speaker 4: ship was that things were turned around, because they even 1879 01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,040 Speaker 4: told me, go call, We're gonna have to do something 1880 01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,439 Speaker 4: about this. We gotta do something else outside of this 1881 01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:20,280 Speaker 4: clothing ship, because this ship is about to hit the fan. 1882 01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:22,720 Speaker 4: This is like five years before it hit the fan. 1883 01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:27,479 Speaker 4: So the signs are there, but you know, you just 1884 01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:28,600 Speaker 4: got to make their adjustments. 1885 01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 6: I want to be I want to bring up a 1886 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:33,479 Speaker 6: point of I don't want to make it a big sloppy, 1887 01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,519 Speaker 6: wet kiss about footbal we got because we didn't know. 1888 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,320 Speaker 2: We didn't know. Also we got cocky too, you know 1889 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,200 Speaker 2: we we would tell what they call a pre pack. 1890 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:43,840 Speaker 2: I dealt with that. 1891 01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,240 Speaker 5: I had a story. Yeah, if it was the worst 1892 01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:49,240 Speaker 5: thing for a small business, right, I don't know what 1893 01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,280 Speaker 5: prepackag talk about it with April. 1894 01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:53,880 Speaker 6: You gotta tell you gotta take these twelve pair of jeans. 1895 01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 6: There's two thirty two, two thirty four two thirty six 1896 01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:57,280 Speaker 6: is up up to I'm. 1897 01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,040 Speaker 5: Telling to high school kids were skinny, and I was 1898 01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,840 Speaker 5: getting triple d X of these. 1899 01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know what y'all talk about. So 1900 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,040 Speaker 2: let's say his boss a way over five hundred dollars. 1901 01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:13,400 Speaker 6: Okay, he just want he wanted five hundred dollars worth 1902 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:16,840 Speaker 6: of size thirty two thirty four. But we said to him, 1903 01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,479 Speaker 6: screw you, we're not breaking open the box. I got 1904 01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,599 Speaker 6: the whole box from China or where it is from. 1905 01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 6: It's twelve pairs. You take the five hundred dollars worth 1906 01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:29,360 Speaker 6: because we're so hot, or you don't get it at all, 1907 01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:30,880 Speaker 6: we give it to your man across the street. 1908 01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,800 Speaker 2: It was rampant. It wasn't just obviously you got to 1909 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:33,080 Speaker 2: know it. 1910 01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:37,040 Speaker 8: But I think that's cannibalizing our own industry within it. 1911 01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,040 Speaker 6: Somewhere here, I'm gonna tell you what happened. Guy like 1912 01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,600 Speaker 6: this man would say, I ain't got no choice. Let 1913 01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,160 Speaker 6: me take him, Let me take them, let me take them. 1914 01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:45,240 Speaker 2: So now what does he have to do? 1915 01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,759 Speaker 6: He takes them all. All the jeans are one hundred 1916 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,559 Speaker 6: dollars a piece. Supposed to sell it one hundred dollars 1917 01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:56,560 Speaker 6: piece he got one hundred pair of forty twos and 1918 01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,240 Speaker 6: forties that he can't sell. He puts them in a 1919 01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,840 Speaker 6: bucket over here and said, buy him for twenty five dollars. Kids, 1920 01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,559 Speaker 6: you a kid, you walking and saw you can't tell 1921 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:07,760 Speaker 6: the difference of the one hundred dollars and twenty five dollars. 1922 01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,920 Speaker 6: And then guess what the new one, the new Hungry 1923 01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,479 Speaker 6: Company come up, go yee, you many thirty two's as 1924 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,360 Speaker 6: you want. Now, all of a sudden we have a 1925 01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,200 Speaker 6: bunch of inventory and we got him. He's pissed off. 1926 01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:22,960 Speaker 6: We're like, yo, oh, why so for? 1927 01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:24,000 Speaker 2: Why you buy so for? 1928 01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:27,280 Speaker 6: You're like, remember me, mister, you gotta buy the whole 1929 01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,439 Speaker 6: box home? Yoh, matter of fact, I don't want to 1930 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,720 Speaker 6: buy shit from you no more. We did that for 1931 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,760 Speaker 6: a certain amount of either not knowing you, but because 1932 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,160 Speaker 6: we didn't know what was about to happen. Now we 1933 01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,120 Speaker 6: build up all this inventory because we didn't know any better. 1934 01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:43,760 Speaker 6: Then all of a sudden we're like, no, no, no, 1935 01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:44,519 Speaker 6: that was a mistake. 1936 01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:44,680 Speaker 5: Man. 1937 01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:48,439 Speaker 2: We break that box over. He like, too late, homie, Yeah, 1938 01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:52,200 Speaker 2: we moved on something now too late or our doors 1939 01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,240 Speaker 2: had to close. They had another retailer's gun. Now we 1940 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,200 Speaker 2: weren't in the store. Again, I missed the story. Bruce 1941 01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:02,519 Speaker 2: told me recently. There was a time where an independent 1942 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,920 Speaker 2: store couldn't get credit. That's what it was. That's that's 1943 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,800 Speaker 2: exactly how we were told. We get credit by buying 1944 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,760 Speaker 2: the pre biss So what so what happened was Republic please, 1945 01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,680 Speaker 2: it is the bank that gives independence stores credit. Right, 1946 01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,400 Speaker 2: So Republic told us is, Yo, we get so many 1947 01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:19,200 Speaker 2: calls to buy fooble. What we're gonna do is we're 1948 01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,760 Speaker 2: gonna give everybody, every store that calls, we're gonna give 1949 01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:24,960 Speaker 2: them twenty thousand dollars in credit. But whether they get 1950 01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,160 Speaker 2: good credit, bad credit, we're gonna give them that shot. 1951 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:27,680 Speaker 8: Right. 1952 01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,600 Speaker 4: So with that being said, with us, the sales is 1953 01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:33,880 Speaker 4: that made us go from ten million dollars to twenty 1954 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:34,519 Speaker 4: million dollars. 1955 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,479 Speaker 6: It also gave us a power to give neighborhoods so 1956 01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,759 Speaker 6: us credit credit that never were able. 1957 01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,960 Speaker 2: To with that. With that arrogance, we said, not for 1958 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:42,600 Speaker 2: you to buy our stuff, you got to buy it 1959 01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:46,120 Speaker 2: in these packages. And they kind of caused some and 1960 01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:46,840 Speaker 2: we couldn't sell. 1961 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,640 Speaker 6: And it shows that no matter who you are, no 1962 01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:53,760 Speaker 6: matter who you are if you don't treat your customer right. 1963 01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,640 Speaker 2: And if that was our customer and you. 1964 01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,519 Speaker 6: Don't treat them right, sooner or later you're gonna put 1965 01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,479 Speaker 6: them on a business or they're gonna put you the business. 1966 01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,120 Speaker 5: Because then what happens in return is they put other 1967 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:07,479 Speaker 5: brands and because somebody else says, yo, somebody is not 1968 01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:09,160 Speaker 5: fulfilling this man's needs. 1969 01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,120 Speaker 2: All right, And I'm small and I don't even have 1970 01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:15,599 Speaker 2: twelve packs right sized that you need. 1971 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:16,760 Speaker 1: So so like. 1972 01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,599 Speaker 5: I remember me going in Costcos, right, and I remember 1973 01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:26,200 Speaker 5: me looking for a product and not being to fire 1974 01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:29,479 Speaker 5: because it's all the way in the back. Is that 1975 01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,400 Speaker 5: is that something that happens in a fast world? That's 1976 01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:34,599 Speaker 5: something that actually matters. 1977 01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:42,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, place, it all depends chanes in real estate, right, 1978 01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:44,040 Speaker 6: So it all depends. 1979 01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:44,840 Speaker 2: You're talking about grocery. 1980 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,559 Speaker 6: Grocery and Costco is different, right because the whole procer 1981 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,400 Speaker 6: what's going to be in the back, what's going to 1982 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:52,479 Speaker 6: be in the back milk, eggs, meat and things you 1983 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,200 Speaker 6: need because you got to go to the back so 1984 01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:57,559 Speaker 6: you can pass everything to buy everything else. And then 1985 01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,560 Speaker 6: you're going to pass it all to buy that. But 1986 01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,120 Speaker 6: what you're talking about emerging, dodging and all that kind 1987 01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,439 Speaker 6: of stuff. When you see like so like big department 1988 01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:06,519 Speaker 6: stores aren't they don't. You don't make any money off 1989 01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:10,280 Speaker 6: a big department store. So a big department store, they're 1990 01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,120 Speaker 6: not selling clothes. A big department store is selling real estate. 1991 01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:15,559 Speaker 6: So if you go and look at the Ralph Laurentz 1992 01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,960 Speaker 6: section in there, Ralph lorent paid for all that would 1993 01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:21,560 Speaker 6: they paid for the person selling it to you. 1994 01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:25,360 Speaker 5: They're paying for the people in there. That's how that 1995 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,479 Speaker 5: raw la Renn is paying for everyone of the way, 1996 01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:30,880 Speaker 5: for the windows. Every time you see the stuff in 1997 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:34,040 Speaker 5: the window. Their their job is to sell real estate. 1998 01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:35,360 Speaker 5: You don't make money in there. 1999 01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:40,080 Speaker 6: So when you launch a fragrance, you got to pay 2000 01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,000 Speaker 6: twenty two or twenty five dollars per person you see 2001 01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,080 Speaker 6: going like this in the store, going like hey, smelling 2002 01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:45,640 Speaker 6: this and all that. 2003 01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:47,880 Speaker 2: The motherfuckers they're selling everything. 2004 01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,400 Speaker 6: So what happens is and that's why they say, that's 2005 01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,880 Speaker 6: why they say clothing company, I mean they say, you know, 2006 01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,680 Speaker 6: retailers like that get really religious because what they tell 2007 01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:59,000 Speaker 6: you to do is spend a million dollars on putting 2008 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:00,840 Speaker 6: stuff in the window, putting someuf in the circular people 2009 01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:03,120 Speaker 6: that put your stuff on wheels, because if your ship 2010 01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:05,599 Speaker 6: don't sell, we're going to mark it down and roll 2011 01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:08,360 Speaker 6: that ship right out of the back door. And that's 2012 01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,600 Speaker 6: where they make their money on all of that. They 2013 01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,760 Speaker 6: don't care about the clothes. They make this selling to us. 2014 01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,559 Speaker 6: And that's why we tell everybody here who's watching the show, 2015 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,360 Speaker 6: be your own distributor online, direct to your customer, because 2016 01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:25,760 Speaker 6: even when you want to be in those stores who 2017 01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:29,160 Speaker 6: bought it, Once they go past the register, who bought it? 2018 01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,160 Speaker 6: Was it a mother buying for herself, that she buy 2019 01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:32,800 Speaker 6: it for a kid, was it a gift for it? 2020 01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,040 Speaker 6: You don't know who they are. So now we want 2021 01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:38,320 Speaker 6: people here who watch this to sell their own shit 2022 01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:41,759 Speaker 6: themselves online. You don't have to set up those stormers 2023 01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,880 Speaker 6: directed consumers, so you can say, how did you like it? 2024 01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,840 Speaker 2: How did you not like it? What should I do better? 2025 01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:49,720 Speaker 6: And that's the important part that that's why technology has 2026 01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:53,120 Speaker 6: democratized its entire data of your customers. 2027 01:42:53,760 --> 01:43:00,040 Speaker 5: Like me and you were talking about it earlier. I 2028 01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:03,479 Speaker 5: had Kanye on the show, right and I went and 2029 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,519 Speaker 5: hung out with him and then I brung him to 2030 01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:09,120 Speaker 5: a place called Zz's, which is which is ironic. Right, 2031 01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,320 Speaker 5: there was this a whole big space open next to 2032 01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:18,560 Speaker 5: Eas's and you just looked at it and was like Valenciaga, 2033 01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,880 Speaker 5: Sweet of God, Sweet of God. And then he put 2034 01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:26,280 Speaker 5: a Balanciaga in there two floors. I had never seen 2035 01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:27,840 Speaker 5: no dumb shit like this. I mean this was some 2036 01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:35,120 Speaker 5: because he stopped and just like like, by the way, 2037 01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:39,120 Speaker 5: it's nothing there. There's absolutely nothing there. I just described 2038 01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:40,840 Speaker 5: Zz's told him like, yo, this is a place we 2039 01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,720 Speaker 5: are safe. You know what I mean, There's no hood 2040 01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:45,000 Speaker 5: shit going on. I'm a member of the club, you 2041 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,640 Speaker 5: know what I mean. Room And he's seen it, and 2042 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,960 Speaker 5: it made me say like damn, why don't we do 2043 01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,600 Speaker 5: things like that? Like what I mean by that is 2044 01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:57,479 Speaker 5: footbo right now, if we go to food, but we 2045 01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:01,400 Speaker 5: have to go through somebody else, right, No, No, what 2046 01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:03,679 Speaker 5: I'm saying is like I wanted to go to the store. 2047 01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,639 Speaker 2: Why why isn't food boo stores? 2048 01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,080 Speaker 6: Those are those are that's a great, great, great point. 2049 01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:14,160 Speaker 6: Those are different businesses. So you have to have an 2050 01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:21,360 Speaker 6: operator because we're we're not good retail operators. That's like, 2051 01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:26,000 Speaker 6: that's like saying to I don't know what you do here. 2052 01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:26,720 Speaker 2: That's like. 2053 01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:33,320 Speaker 6: I don't know how they do the carrier of the broadcaster, right, 2054 01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,360 Speaker 6: So a store is a different you know, like we 2055 01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,200 Speaker 6: we know how to make you know, to make good. 2056 01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:42,800 Speaker 6: To own a retail shop, you have to know how 2057 01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:44,920 Speaker 6: to put it up there. The software they're shipping the 2058 01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:48,320 Speaker 6: goods in, shipping goods out, taking this back customer. 2059 01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:54,000 Speaker 2: Service the least of the place. So they're different insurance. 2060 01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,519 Speaker 6: So what he did was probably he already knew the 2061 01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,519 Speaker 6: blencia because they have different divisions, and he it's licensing. 2062 01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:01,639 Speaker 6: Like we said, that's exactly what we did, like we would. 2063 01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:03,519 Speaker 6: We we have Fooboo stores and we still do with 2064 01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,920 Speaker 6: certain countries. But it's somebody who's an expert operator. They 2065 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,439 Speaker 6: have they have ten Donna Karen stores, they have ten 2066 01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:12,320 Speaker 6: Fubu stores, they have ten this, ten that. So that's 2067 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,840 Speaker 6: why because you don't want to get the way to 2068 01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,120 Speaker 6: Disney does not own all of that. 2069 01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:19,160 Speaker 2: They license it. 2070 01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:22,720 Speaker 6: When you see Mickey your stores, yeah, a lot a 2071 01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:24,160 Speaker 6: lot of would be doing some would be doing so, 2072 01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:27,160 Speaker 6: but they'll license out. Think about all the licenses does 2073 01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:28,599 Speaker 6: they have. You can get key chains all the way. 2074 01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:30,840 Speaker 6: They're not making that stuff, they're licensing that out. 2075 01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:34,040 Speaker 2: You can get like Star Wars everything, that's because they're licensing. 2076 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,679 Speaker 4: That's Disney Baby used to used to damon with the Marvel. 2077 01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:40,200 Speaker 4: That was a licensing that we did with Marvel. 2078 01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, because I have license that too actively black right, 2079 01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:48,839 Speaker 6: you know. So it's all about licensing. Is the quickest 2080 01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:52,360 Speaker 6: way to grow your brand, extend your brand and uh 2081 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:53,120 Speaker 6: and revenue? 2082 01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:54,880 Speaker 8: Can I ask a quick This is gonna be a 2083 01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,479 Speaker 8: little bit of a veer off, but talking about licensing 2084 01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,600 Speaker 8: Marvel for the average Let's say there's a there's a 2085 01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:04,519 Speaker 8: person's creating their own brand and they want to license 2086 01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:06,880 Speaker 8: a big brand like a Marvel or a Star Wars. 2087 01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:10,240 Speaker 2: How difficult is that? Extremely difficult? You gotta come to me. 2088 01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:12,519 Speaker 2: You got. 2089 01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:16,519 Speaker 6: You got somebody like me who who's gonna talk to him? 2090 01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,439 Speaker 6: Who say give this young person a shot. 2091 01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,120 Speaker 1: You had sales and all that. You gotta be popular 2092 01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:22,920 Speaker 1: to even have that conversation. 2093 01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:25,360 Speaker 4: And a lot of times you name it communicating with marvels. 2094 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:28,280 Speaker 4: You communicating with someone that already holds the license. 2095 01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,000 Speaker 6: But let me give you something that you got to do. 2096 01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:37,560 Speaker 6: Think about George Lucas when he sold his brand, he 2097 01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,640 Speaker 6: sold Star Wars. The George Lucas brand. He sold it 2098 01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:44,720 Speaker 6: to Disney, So Disney, right, we love his story content, right, 2099 01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:45,439 Speaker 6: Star Wars? 2100 01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,680 Speaker 2: Right? How much do you think of sofa? Anybody will 2101 01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:51,120 Speaker 2: go a billion? Three three point eight billion? Right right? 2102 01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,960 Speaker 6: But she regrets kind of you know how much Pepper 2103 01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:58,880 Speaker 6: Pig sofa four point two billion? 2104 01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:02,240 Speaker 2: Ship? Well, Blue better? I don't know what, because Blue 2105 01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:03,920 Speaker 2: is bigger than Pepper Pig. Now, I don't want to 2106 01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,280 Speaker 2: be I don't want to be cult pretty inappropriate and 2107 01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 2: talk like Pepper Pig. So please tell the pep big 2108 01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:19,360 Speaker 2: started on YouTube all the Star Wars. Don't fada obie. 2109 01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:21,400 Speaker 13: The whole. 2110 01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:25,880 Speaker 14: I p three point eight billions pistol Pig on YouTube 2111 01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:30,640 Speaker 14: for a cartoon of a pig because the licensing, all 2112 01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:34,800 Speaker 14: the toy and everything four point two billion dollars. 2113 01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:38,040 Speaker 8: See how that was smart because Pepper Pig lang and 2114 01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:39,679 Speaker 8: Lego Lang is Actually that's. 2115 01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:40,840 Speaker 1: The only thing good about Lego Land. 2116 01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:44,240 Speaker 2: I don't even know Pep. I got kids, I got 2117 01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:50,320 Speaker 2: little kids, I'm in it. I know I'm lost. You 2118 01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:59,599 Speaker 2: are twenty billions completely. 2119 01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:07,960 Speaker 6: I have to say, eeyo, kid. So anybody here has 2120 01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,639 Speaker 6: an ip and idea something else like that. The idea 2121 01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:12,320 Speaker 6: is to do the best you can of it, and 2122 01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,040 Speaker 6: create a core audience and go to somebody else and say, 2123 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,519 Speaker 6: let me tell you something. I know exactly what eighteen 2124 01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,080 Speaker 6: years old to twenty five year olds old want, who'll 2125 01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,599 Speaker 6: make about this amount of income, who watch this amount 2126 01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:24,040 Speaker 6: of time? Because you have the analytics, and then you 2127 01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,320 Speaker 6: can say to somebody, once you give them that information, 2128 01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:28,920 Speaker 6: you can say, now you can replicate this in the 2129 01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:31,559 Speaker 6: other areas that they like and they love. And that's 2130 01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:33,960 Speaker 6: exactly what we've been able to do with Foobu and 2131 01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,120 Speaker 6: have great partners, and you got other people who say, 2132 01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,040 Speaker 6: you know what, I make the best. I make the 2133 01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:44,719 Speaker 6: best peanuts in the world. But I don't have something 2134 01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:48,479 Speaker 6: like a drink Champ to say, do you want when 2135 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:53,280 Speaker 6: you're drinking some great salty snacks peanuts Champs. I want 2136 01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:56,200 Speaker 6: to drink Champ peanuts whenever you're drinking. Whenever you're drinking, 2137 01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:59,080 Speaker 6: what you're gonna need bat Joe, let's just take a car. 2138 01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:00,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a I don't know about it. 2139 01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:13,080 Speaker 5: I'm filming drink chants for foob not rewind one of 2140 01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:19,040 Speaker 5: the we'll be there, we pull up on you, finished Joe. 2141 01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,040 Speaker 5: One of the first stores to ever buy our stuff, 2142 01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,240 Speaker 5: and we will we were bringing it. We will bring it. 2143 01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,080 Speaker 2: We're bringing it to his store and the Bronx in 2144 01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:26,120 Speaker 2: the back of our trunk. 2145 01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:29,600 Speaker 4: And I used to I used to take them to 2146 01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:32,599 Speaker 4: our warehouse, pick out the clothes of them and count 2147 01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,400 Speaker 4: all the money and cash to take me like freaking out. 2148 01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:37,439 Speaker 6: We only show we only show us the eight stores 2149 01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:39,599 Speaker 6: of New York and Factio was the third, the fourth 2150 01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:41,880 Speaker 6: store in New York City to ever ever ever buy 2151 01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:42,280 Speaker 6: our stuff. 2152 01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:44,639 Speaker 2: And we were still in the house making it at first. 2153 01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,320 Speaker 6: Uh to out and he used to come out and 2154 01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:49,880 Speaker 6: just he was a legend and still is a legend 2155 01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:52,000 Speaker 6: me and be like, yo, man, all right, I buy 2156 01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:52,320 Speaker 6: you shoe. 2157 01:49:52,360 --> 01:50:04,080 Speaker 2: Let's just buy it all cast. I guess we still 2158 01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,320 Speaker 2: streak money explaining around. 2159 01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:09,720 Speaker 5: So you just you guys just said something for a 2160 01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:11,880 Speaker 5: person that's trying to be the next foobl right, And 2161 01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,400 Speaker 5: what I mean, I don't mean it like the statement 2162 01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:18,400 Speaker 5: foodle like like owning and be independent, but actually trying 2163 01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:22,240 Speaker 5: to make clothes. You guys don't make the close ourselves, 2164 01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:22,679 Speaker 5: do y'all? 2165 01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,000 Speaker 2: We make some of them. We still make some of 2166 01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:27,720 Speaker 2: it now we always make by hand or how does 2167 01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:31,840 Speaker 2: this work blanket? 2168 01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,200 Speaker 6: We still we still make a portion, but we have 2169 01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:37,240 Speaker 6: like we have like maybe thirty five different We have 2170 01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:41,160 Speaker 6: a great we have a great uh shoot division team. 2171 01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:41,680 Speaker 2: That's right. 2172 01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,000 Speaker 4: We get to the points where we hire people to 2173 01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:49,240 Speaker 4: get it to different stations of approval. So we had 2174 01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:51,840 Speaker 4: the cast coming first, Okay, we like the general look 2175 01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:54,400 Speaker 4: of the season. Then you get the samples coming Okay, 2176 01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:56,880 Speaker 4: we like how these samples make these changes by the 2177 01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:57,880 Speaker 4: time we get to production. 2178 01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,439 Speaker 2: Then we ship it to the stores. So we kind 2179 01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,040 Speaker 2: of oversee the whole process until it gets shipped. 2180 01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,320 Speaker 6: To this But to simplify it for people watching, if 2181 01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,200 Speaker 6: you have an intellectual property and you have registered your name, 2182 01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:09,960 Speaker 6: not not just on a website. You registered, you went 2183 01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:13,840 Speaker 6: to the United States Trademark off the USPTA United States 2184 01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:15,080 Speaker 6: Patent Trademark Office. 2185 01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:17,520 Speaker 2: You put your name in a category. 2186 01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,160 Speaker 6: So your name would be drink Chams and it could 2187 01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,240 Speaker 6: probably be in liquor, it could be in everything else. 2188 01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:23,480 Speaker 2: Right, there's a category. 2189 01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,439 Speaker 6: Don't just say your website because if you say, well, 2190 01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:28,280 Speaker 6: I got the drink Chams website, or you go, listen, 2191 01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:30,920 Speaker 6: my son's name is, you know, Todd. I'm going to 2192 01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:33,599 Speaker 6: name my clothing brand Todd Well, I always say, well, 2193 01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:36,080 Speaker 6: my next clothing, my next son's going to be named Apple, 2194 01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:37,799 Speaker 6: and my next son that's gonna be named BMW. 2195 01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:38,760 Speaker 2: You can't just say that. 2196 01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:42,320 Speaker 6: Once you get the category, whoever you are, you can 2197 01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,960 Speaker 6: license your name to somebody. You can go to Middle 2198 01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:47,280 Speaker 6: America right now, all this all you look up and 2199 01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:50,799 Speaker 6: down the street, like Main Street, everywhere it's empty. Nobody's 2200 01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,120 Speaker 6: buying stuff, nobody's going to those stores. Those stores all 2201 01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:55,439 Speaker 6: have inventories. If you are a kid and you know 2202 01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:57,560 Speaker 6: that you're super fashional, you go and say, hey, my 2203 01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:00,280 Speaker 6: name is whatever it is, I got. 2204 01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,160 Speaker 2: An this is who my IP is, intellectual property. 2205 01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,479 Speaker 6: I'm going to do a TikTok with all your inventory 2206 01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:08,560 Speaker 6: and my soul, and you know on my site, I know, 2207 01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:10,360 Speaker 6: I know you already got the goods. You're going out 2208 01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:13,040 Speaker 6: of business, give me fifty percent of what I sell, 2209 01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:17,160 Speaker 6: and you start naming it your brand. That brand could 2210 01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,519 Speaker 6: be the New Century forever twenty one, that brand, right. 2211 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,760 Speaker 6: And so what I'm trying to tell people is they 2212 01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:26,200 Speaker 6: can license their name as small as they are, create 2213 01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:29,800 Speaker 6: a name for themselves, what their following, and make money. 2214 01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:30,439 Speaker 2: You can do it. 2215 01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:33,040 Speaker 6: On Amazon too. You know you ever see when you 2216 01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:36,120 Speaker 6: put in some name and it says sponsored. That's just 2217 01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:39,080 Speaker 6: somebody who sees that you're making this, and they take 2218 01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:43,160 Speaker 6: it and they get an affiliation, and then they direct 2219 01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:46,360 Speaker 6: they direct their traffic to you and you get that 2220 01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:49,080 Speaker 6: cigarette or you know that, whatever the case is, and 2221 01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:50,920 Speaker 6: they make money. So I'm trying to explain the best 2222 01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:54,439 Speaker 6: way to everybody watching this. Then they can do exactly 2223 01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:56,200 Speaker 6: what we did. They can start up today and be 2224 01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:58,640 Speaker 6: the next I don't know who you want to call it. 2225 01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:00,879 Speaker 6: You know, you know targe, but don't. 2226 01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:01,479 Speaker 2: Get it twisted. 2227 01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:06,800 Speaker 4: Licensing and like like Damad said, companies categories is expensive. 2228 01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:10,320 Speaker 4: We spend closely three hundred and maybe half a million 2229 01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:14,160 Speaker 4: dollars a year just protecting our brand around around the world. 2230 01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:17,880 Speaker 4: So it's not like you're going to just have your 2231 01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:22,360 Speaker 4: brand protected everywhere. Choose where you think your best markets 2232 01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:25,639 Speaker 4: will be and grow as you can. You can't protect 2233 01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:27,439 Speaker 4: it everyone, you know how you can't protect around the world. 2234 01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:29,639 Speaker 6: Remember the show we used to love in limon Color 2235 01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:33,040 Speaker 6: In Color, there's a band called in Living Color that 2236 01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:36,639 Speaker 6: the rock band. The rock band they in Living Color 2237 01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:39,000 Speaker 6: of the TV show didn't want to because they in 2238 01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:42,240 Speaker 6: Living Color. They were Entertainment in Limit Call of the 2239 01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:45,759 Speaker 6: TV shows Entertainment and Limit Call the TV show didn't 2240 01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:47,320 Speaker 6: want to pay and they got into a fight and 2241 01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,880 Speaker 6: they said we had it first in Limit Call the 2242 01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,360 Speaker 6: band and they had a fight over the name. 2243 01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:53,560 Speaker 2: And that's why they had to cancel. And Love and 2244 01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:57,280 Speaker 2: Color Nowhere had to cancel because of that. I'll give 2245 01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:02,439 Speaker 2: you another example. Let me give you another example. This 2246 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,360 Speaker 2: is legal. This is legal. Eagle thup. 2247 01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,439 Speaker 6: Our buddies, the ones who created the company Jordash and 2248 01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:09,040 Speaker 6: gas and stuff like that, they come to us. 2249 01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:10,160 Speaker 2: They had license our ladies. 2250 01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,240 Speaker 6: They come to us and they show us something and 2251 01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,960 Speaker 6: it's a two horses, like two horses and I'm like, 2252 01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:19,240 Speaker 6: I'm like, what is that. They're like, this is a 2253 01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:23,960 Speaker 6: US Polo Association. We've said, well that's Ralph Laurent. Ralph 2254 01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:29,120 Speaker 6: la reringuees, you're you're intruding on my mark. We're going 2255 01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:31,599 Speaker 6: to take you to court. They go to court. 2256 01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:32,920 Speaker 2: Judge looks at. 2257 01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:36,840 Speaker 6: Them and goes, all right, when you can no longer 2258 01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,120 Speaker 6: do business, you're done, get out of here. 2259 01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:42,360 Speaker 2: Ralphla Wrengue goes good, seek it out. He says no, Ralph. 2260 01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:48,080 Speaker 6: They bought United States Polo Association from the United States 2261 01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:51,160 Speaker 6: Polo Associations. It's one hundred years old. Who've been making 2262 01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:55,400 Speaker 6: clothes for one hundred years old. They can cancel your mark. 2263 01:54:56,440 --> 01:55:00,280 Speaker 6: So what happens now is US Polo is so station 2264 01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:03,440 Speaker 6: doesn't have to advertise, market do anything they ever want 2265 01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:08,400 Speaker 6: to do. And they do six billion dollars a year. 2266 01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:09,920 Speaker 2: People that. 2267 01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:17,320 Speaker 5: And lorandas all the advertise ahead, home boy, you can 2268 01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,040 Speaker 5: play with the judge camp on this floor. 2269 01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:22,480 Speaker 6: Whoever has it all the longest they take the same 2270 01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:24,120 Speaker 6: they having a seven of all Man. 2271 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:28,600 Speaker 2: Somebody had a lot of things. 2272 01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:32,440 Speaker 8: We gotta, I feel like, we gotta dumb it down 2273 01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:39,200 Speaker 8: for for Layman's US amazing us like like like does 2274 01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:42,280 Speaker 8: a poor man's copyright work in that sense? For for timestamping, 2275 01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:44,800 Speaker 8: remember the poor man's copyright you just sent it to 2276 01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:47,280 Speaker 8: yourself and that kind of work. 2277 01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:49,560 Speaker 6: But not as much anymore because what it happened with 2278 01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:52,680 Speaker 6: years ago was there was a guy who looked at 2279 01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:58,680 Speaker 6: every type of movie and said, wow, air brakes, Wow 2280 01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:00,920 Speaker 6: this that, and sent in a whole bunch of trademarks 2281 01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:05,080 Speaker 6: and now earlier on many marks, trademark everything. He saw 2282 01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:07,120 Speaker 6: in a movie and he just sent in a letter 2283 01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:12,560 Speaker 6: and said, Lightsaber, oh this, And what happened was That's 2284 01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:14,920 Speaker 6: why it depends on you're talking about a pattern of 2285 01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:18,440 Speaker 6: trademark and or you have the crew that you're actually 2286 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:21,640 Speaker 6: using that. So was he successful that person he was. 2287 01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:24,720 Speaker 6: He ended up making billions of dollars off of trademarkting 2288 01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:26,880 Speaker 6: thing he saw in every single movie for the next 2289 01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,520 Speaker 6: fifty years. And no court could see through that through 2290 01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:32,360 Speaker 6: that scam. There wasn't a scam at first. The law 2291 01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,800 Speaker 6: changes against this and that, and that's why you see 2292 01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:38,560 Speaker 6: that a lot of brands have expiring patents and trademarks. 2293 01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,240 Speaker 6: Now there's difference with copyright, there's different trademarks, this with 2294 01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:44,080 Speaker 6: patents and everything else. But the bottom line is I've 2295 01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,280 Speaker 6: seen it even on Shark Tank, one or two of 2296 01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:48,480 Speaker 6: my companies on sharks Tank, they could never after all 2297 01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:50,960 Speaker 6: the advertising, all the marketing, well that name they had, 2298 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,320 Speaker 6: they didn't have to protected somebody else that's cease and desist. 2299 01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:55,280 Speaker 6: And they took all the traffic after they got onto 2300 01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:57,320 Speaker 6: shark Tank and they made me out. 2301 01:56:58,520 --> 01:56:59,600 Speaker 2: So what's the ultimate. 2302 01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:01,960 Speaker 6: Detection in your The bottom of the protection is exactly 2303 01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:04,000 Speaker 6: what Noria has said in the past, it's to make 2304 01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:07,640 Speaker 6: sure that you cross your t's and dot your i's 2305 01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:11,720 Speaker 6: and understand the fundamentals of when you build a business, 2306 01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,920 Speaker 6: that you have your contracts in order. As we talked about. 2307 01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,480 Speaker 6: You can be in there with the family, but Keith 2308 01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:22,400 Speaker 6: knows his deliverables and our deal, Carl knows and I 2309 01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,680 Speaker 6: know right in every relationship you cannot be fifty to 2310 01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:30,240 Speaker 6: fifty one has to make a decision fifty one forty nine. 2311 01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:32,960 Speaker 6: You have to have all of your stuff trademark and 2312 01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:37,000 Speaker 6: pattern because you know they say that for African Americans 2313 01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:40,480 Speaker 6: the number one organization that puts them out of business 2314 01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:45,240 Speaker 6: and not intentionally, it's the irs because you don't understand 2315 01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,440 Speaker 6: what the fundamentals are in the basic of taxes and 2316 01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,560 Speaker 6: barriers are the things. So if you start off a business, 2317 01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:55,280 Speaker 6: you're already African Americans, so you're getting discriminated against. So 2318 01:57:55,360 --> 01:58:00,440 Speaker 6: your loans are higher costs, right, plus you're getting paid less. 2319 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,800 Speaker 6: And then if your stuff is not in order, well 2320 01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:06,120 Speaker 6: the government can't discriminate. 2321 01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:08,200 Speaker 2: They just have to do what they have to do. 2322 01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:10,480 Speaker 2: So everything from your trade war so that we learned 2323 01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:11,120 Speaker 2: this a hard one. 2324 01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:13,840 Speaker 5: What you described before is an operational agreement right between, 2325 01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:17,080 Speaker 5: it's an operational agreement, a DBA, whatever you want to 2326 01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:20,000 Speaker 5: call it. You have to have these things in writing, 2327 01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:21,800 Speaker 5: and you had set it in some other past stuff 2328 01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:24,120 Speaker 5: that you learn the mistakes you had made. You went 2329 01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:27,720 Speaker 5: in and got an attorney, and today you know Rocket 2330 01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:30,400 Speaker 5: Lawyer and various other companies. You can look at these 2331 01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:33,440 Speaker 5: agreements and get them online, and don't go spend all 2332 01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:35,920 Speaker 5: your money with your man who's just giving you advice, 2333 01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:39,080 Speaker 5: right right, go online and look at this shit and 2334 01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:42,040 Speaker 5: set yourself up from the beginning and then understand how 2335 01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:43,920 Speaker 5: to dissolve it and various other things. 2336 01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:47,040 Speaker 2: I always say fifty one percent. Try to keep fifty 2337 01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:48,720 Speaker 2: one percent and try to be. 2338 01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:55,959 Speaker 4: Management hold management position in your company, which means. 2339 01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:59,000 Speaker 2: You make to find a call. If you sell it, 2340 01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:01,840 Speaker 2: you still run it, no if you if you. 2341 01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:04,480 Speaker 4: The bottom line is when there comes a situation where 2342 01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:07,000 Speaker 4: the assistant has to be made, you get to final call. 2343 01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:09,720 Speaker 4: So that's how do how do equal partners do that? 2344 01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:11,919 Speaker 4: You do that in the operational agreements, because. 2345 01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:13,000 Speaker 2: An operation agreement could be like this. 2346 01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:17,360 Speaker 6: Listen, You're gonna fundel the clothes and I'm gonna be 2347 01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:18,880 Speaker 6: able to sell it on. You can never sell it 2348 01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,440 Speaker 6: to uh, you know, lower end stores than the person 2349 01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:23,080 Speaker 6: over here goes. Okay, but if it stays in my 2350 01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:24,960 Speaker 6: warehouse ninety days, I can sell it to who I want. 2351 01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:29,280 Speaker 2: Okay. You know every agreement can be you know you're 2352 01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:30,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it gully. 2353 01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:33,960 Speaker 4: The only reason Food was still around is because Damon 2354 01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:37,160 Speaker 4: was able to at that even at their young age, 2355 01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:43,400 Speaker 4: negotiated or had advice to negotiate a position where they couldn't. 2356 01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:44,680 Speaker 2: Get rid of us investors. 2357 01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:48,320 Speaker 4: The bottom line is we're still around because we have 2358 01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:49,040 Speaker 4: to be around. 2359 01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:51,200 Speaker 5: They wanted to get rid of you. They don't want 2360 01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:54,160 Speaker 5: they wanted to open to It was not ignorance, though. 2361 01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:56,400 Speaker 5: It was like they were ignoring us for a couple 2362 01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:56,760 Speaker 5: of calls. 2363 01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:58,640 Speaker 6: And when I finally got on the when when when 2364 01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:00,520 Speaker 6: they finally had called us back, I was like, yo 2365 02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:03,840 Speaker 6: you and they was like, listen, calm down, We'll do 2366 02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:05,720 Speaker 6: a deal that will make sure it's good for you. 2367 02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:08,160 Speaker 6: And the funny thing that I brought my mother in 2368 02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:09,600 Speaker 6: the room with the deal, and a lot of people 2369 02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:12,320 Speaker 6: are laughing. I brought my mother, my mother, my mother, 2370 02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:15,240 Speaker 6: but my mother is very brilliant and a lot of us, 2371 02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:17,400 Speaker 6: you know, we have significant others, mothers, And I was like, 2372 02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:19,440 Speaker 6: so what I brought my mother? 2373 02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:22,320 Speaker 2: Why can't she be a brilliant woman? What's wrong with that? 2374 02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:23,120 Speaker 3: Right? 2375 02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:25,440 Speaker 4: But we have great part of it, But you're right, 2376 02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:28,360 Speaker 4: and vice versa. We can't the companies that around because 2377 02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:31,160 Speaker 4: they didn't own that company. When that entity decided to 2378 02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:32,400 Speaker 4: sell it, they had no says. 2379 02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:34,400 Speaker 2: So it's kind of like being a rapper, yo. 2380 02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:36,160 Speaker 6: Imagine wink at the deal, don't want to shit out 2381 02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:39,920 Speaker 6: and and the wrong people will dangle the wrong things 2382 02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:41,720 Speaker 6: in front of your face. And so a lot of 2383 02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:43,400 Speaker 6: us are so busy, You've seen it on Sharks Tank. 2384 02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:45,400 Speaker 6: They're so busy wanting to do the deal that they're 2385 02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:47,640 Speaker 6: not thinking about like what's in for you? 2386 02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,200 Speaker 2: What's for me? What's the end game? I just I 2387 02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:51,680 Speaker 2: just want to get it past this point. 2388 02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:55,080 Speaker 6: And as us as African Americans who don't come from wealth, 2389 02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:58,240 Speaker 6: we often are just so happy that somebody that the 2390 02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:00,720 Speaker 6: hustle may be over and would get to this point 2391 02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:04,000 Speaker 6: that we don't look backwards that like how did I 2392 02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:04,400 Speaker 6: get here? 2393 02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:05,360 Speaker 1: And what could I risk? 2394 02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:06,760 Speaker 2: You know? 2395 02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:07,200 Speaker 9: What? 2396 02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:16,320 Speaker 2: Am I giving up? The bootlegging? How bad was that 2397 02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:18,280 Speaker 2: at one point bad. 2398 02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:21,720 Speaker 4: The bottom line, we was hot, so it was on 2399 02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:23,920 Speaker 4: the one on one end of the spectrum. It was 2400 02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:26,960 Speaker 4: a blessing because you that hot. So how is it 2401 02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:27,400 Speaker 4: a blessing? 2402 02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:38,680 Speaker 2: Explained? It was because that guy. But the botom line, 2403 02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:46,760 Speaker 2: if you hot, people bless you, that wasn't the blessing. 2404 02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:48,960 Speaker 2: But the bottom line is they stopped. When did they 2405 02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:51,760 Speaker 2: stop bootlegging us? They never did. 2406 02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:54,760 Speaker 4: So the bottom line is that part we said when 2407 02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:57,880 Speaker 4: they stopped bootlegging us, that was the problem because that 2408 02:01:57,920 --> 02:01:58,800 Speaker 4: we weren't hot no more. 2409 02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:02,880 Speaker 6: You think you can get Lituis baton anywhere in the streets, right, 2410 02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:06,320 Speaker 6: but you know there's no one when people bootleg you. 2411 02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:09,680 Speaker 6: There's no one bootlegging there is. The factory you're working 2412 02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:11,800 Speaker 6: with is making an extra ten million. 2413 02:02:12,160 --> 02:02:15,800 Speaker 5: They make it extra if you on the twelve jeans 2414 02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:20,240 Speaker 5: or twenty like as rappers, we just think is Muhamma 2415 02:02:20,280 --> 02:02:21,360 Speaker 5: from one and twenty fifty. 2416 02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:26,120 Speaker 8: The fact they're recording your real records, right, they're duplicating. 2417 02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:30,160 Speaker 8: That's what they're saying. You tell me ignoring this as 2418 02:02:31,480 --> 02:02:36,880 Speaker 8: twenty eighth the street. Yes, he said yo, he said, 2419 02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:38,440 Speaker 8: you know, he said yo. 2420 02:02:38,720 --> 02:02:41,720 Speaker 1: Literally, I hire some correction officers to go down there 2421 02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:44,160 Speaker 1: and take our bootleg and stuff down on twenty eighth Street. 2422 02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool, get out stuff. Half an hour later, YO, 2423 02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:52,400 Speaker 1: come get me, come help us out. They gotta surround it. 2424 02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:59,840 Speaker 2: So he said, I feel like this is apt. Said, YO, 2425 02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:03,720 Speaker 2: we gotta go with guys. Man. They down on twenty 2426 02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:06,960 Speaker 2: eighth Street. We go down there, We go down there. 2427 02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:10,120 Speaker 1: My cousin is down there, and one of our other 2428 02:03:10,160 --> 02:03:11,160 Speaker 1: boys is down there. 2429 02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:13,440 Speaker 2: Cousin bag No. 2430 02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:15,960 Speaker 1: So you keep saying that I told you that not 2431 02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:20,680 Speaker 1: the story, But listen, stay down there with two hundred 2432 02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:22,640 Speaker 1: and fifty people, at least two hundred three hundred people 2433 02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:27,520 Speaker 1: surrounding them. My dumb ass go over there because my 2434 02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,080 Speaker 1: cousin over there. I got to go make sure he's straight. 2435 02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:32,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to them, but I ain't. 2436 02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:39,600 Speaker 2: Never looked back. Apparently not going on. Goes over there. 2437 02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:43,879 Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, this rocks a bottle of water America. 2438 02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:49,760 Speaker 2: You got you know, I'm telling you that record. He 2439 02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:52,560 Speaker 2: jumping around, and I'm gonna tell you the story. He's right. 2440 02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:55,640 Speaker 2: So what happened we have so we have about twenty 2441 02:03:56,080 --> 02:03:57,200 Speaker 2: duty correcting. 2442 02:03:57,480 --> 02:04:00,160 Speaker 6: We go down twenty eight seventh Street everywhere, every wait 2443 02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:03,000 Speaker 6: coming out of that buildings rebidelities because we we we 2444 02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:04,480 Speaker 6: start packing up about. 2445 02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:05,680 Speaker 2: Two three trucks. We have the woman. 2446 02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:08,960 Speaker 6: We have an order that says you're supposed to surrender, 2447 02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:12,520 Speaker 6: surrender these goods because they're all counterfeit. We're packing up 2448 02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:15,360 Speaker 6: the trucks. Something goes bad in that building and just 2449 02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:19,280 Speaker 6: like uptown, these people all start pouring out. I'm like, 2450 02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:22,040 Speaker 6: I'm like, yo, Keith, we in the Empire, Sam, that's 2451 02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,080 Speaker 6: where our offices. I said, come down about we need 2452 02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:26,280 Speaker 6: somebody to help drive the truck. Keith is like, I 2453 02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:28,040 Speaker 6: got you coming down. 2454 02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:29,960 Speaker 2: We are twy regular. 2455 02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:34,560 Speaker 5: These dudes are coming out of the building direct correct 2456 02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:35,200 Speaker 5: off the pools. 2457 02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:36,839 Speaker 2: Gun Yo, free their. 2458 02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:52,240 Speaker 12: Dude, Like Arnold Swart Nagas said, shoot me, dude, he's 2459 02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:52,920 Speaker 12: doing all this ship. 2460 02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:54,840 Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, keep were saying these dudes with gunny 2461 02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:55,880 Speaker 5: big dude, let's get out of here. 2462 02:04:56,080 --> 02:05:21,360 Speaker 15: No, no, no, I'm gonna keep it real, yo. 2463 02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:23,280 Speaker 2: That's what happened. 2464 02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went down there and help my people's man. 2465 02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:28,320 Speaker 2: That's how I built man went down. I went that 2466 02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:33,120 Speaker 2: by no problem. Yeah, the fifty two victims. 2467 02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:41,680 Speaker 5: I got this big dude Talban sip anyway, the Angel 2468 02:05:41,720 --> 02:05:42,400 Speaker 5: of the Crane. 2469 02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:47,760 Speaker 1: Right when I was crazy. I'm gonna tell you it 2470 02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:48,120 Speaker 1: was crazy. 2471 02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:50,720 Speaker 2: The dude that hit me. I was I was handing 2472 02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:53,960 Speaker 2: the woman. I was handling my business and everybody else. 2473 02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:56,640 Speaker 1: I was handling my business and I went to step 2474 02:05:56,720 --> 02:05:58,880 Speaker 1: back and you know that turn where you step back 2475 02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:01,280 Speaker 1: and then you go to turn. Yo, this dude called 2476 02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:02,680 Speaker 1: me from the bat. I didn't even see him. 2477 02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:04,280 Speaker 2: Boom. He hit me right. 2478 02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:08,280 Speaker 7: So I go down like this and my head come 2479 02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:10,120 Speaker 7: back up and he hit me on the other side 2480 02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:12,760 Speaker 7: my feet, my feet. 2481 02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:17,520 Speaker 2: Just start moving like what hit me? So I'm over 2482 02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:17,920 Speaker 2: here and. 2483 02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:18,800 Speaker 1: I turned around. 2484 02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:20,920 Speaker 2: They through like six seven. 2485 02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:23,320 Speaker 1: He got on the I'll never forget, I swore to gone. 2486 02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:25,640 Speaker 2: Then he got on a yellow gold gym T shirt. 2487 02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:31,800 Speaker 2: You know they got. He got on something. He got 2488 02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:33,879 Speaker 2: on some ass jeans. 2489 02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:36,760 Speaker 7: He look like you're playing for the pocket pool with 2490 02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:45,040 Speaker 7: his cowboy I'm looking at him. He's dude from from 2491 02:06:45,120 --> 02:06:47,600 Speaker 7: over there somewhere. I never see him dressed like that. 2492 02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:50,480 Speaker 7: I never see I swear to I looked at it. 2493 02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:53,240 Speaker 7: I said, oh man, he didn knocked me out, and yo, 2494 02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:54,760 Speaker 7: look like he be in the gym all day. 2495 02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:57,960 Speaker 2: So what eye? One eye bloodshot red? 2496 02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:00,560 Speaker 1: So I wanta fight now because I'm like, okay, let's 2497 02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:02,080 Speaker 1: get it on it. You can't knock me out and 2498 02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:02,640 Speaker 1: prove that. 2499 02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:04,000 Speaker 2: Let's go. 2500 02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:07,320 Speaker 1: Then his little minions start coming, all the little millions. 2501 02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:12,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, man, I see a bend down, clothes everything. 2502 02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:12,960 Speaker 5: Yo. 2503 02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:14,560 Speaker 1: I run down the block. I said, I'll get my 2504 02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:16,800 Speaker 1: back to this man and I'm good. I turn around 2505 02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:19,200 Speaker 1: and I turned like twenty people like just swinging. 2506 02:07:19,600 --> 02:07:23,440 Speaker 2: I go down. They start stomping and kicking. Next thing 2507 02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:25,400 Speaker 2: I know police. It was like a riot. Bro. 2508 02:07:25,560 --> 02:07:28,200 Speaker 1: It was like two hundred police out there. Everything. They 2509 02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:29,960 Speaker 1: come lock and put the handcuffs on me. 2510 02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:33,120 Speaker 2: I went straight, Hollywood. I don't know why, man, I 2511 02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:33,880 Speaker 2: just came down. 2512 02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, straight Hollywood. They took me out of handcuffs. 2513 02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:45,800 Speaker 2: I go back. These niggas in all happened to your son? 2514 02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:51,320 Speaker 2: I told you to go over there. I'm like this, yo, 2515 02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:56,520 Speaker 2: But it was crazy, man. They just why they want 2516 02:07:56,560 --> 02:08:00,000 Speaker 2: to fight, y'all because everybody stole the would make a 2517 02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:03,040 Speaker 2: lot of money from counterfeit goods. We had permissions to 2518 02:08:03,080 --> 02:08:04,760 Speaker 2: go confiscate those goods, and. 2519 02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:13,240 Speaker 1: They started pocketing they went and oh, boy was behind 2520 02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:15,360 Speaker 1: the behind the curtain, like yo. 2521 02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:18,440 Speaker 5: There's an organized system out there, and they got downstairs 2522 02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:19,120 Speaker 5: with a rag. 2523 02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:21,200 Speaker 2: A lot of money. Count Counterfeit is a huge business. 2524 02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:24,320 Speaker 2: So to say about the counterfeiting stuff. 2525 02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:29,640 Speaker 6: Factory is running ten million more throwing it off the back. 2526 02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:34,480 Speaker 6: Another another factory competing is making more goods. Then you 2527 02:08:34,600 --> 02:08:37,400 Speaker 6: got people who bring in a million white T shirts 2528 02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:39,440 Speaker 6: and they got a line going like this, and they're going, 2529 02:08:40,240 --> 02:08:46,360 Speaker 6: Tommy fool Nikena. 2530 02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:46,160 Speaker 2: Is coming from all places. 2531 02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:49,200 Speaker 6: And when you spend all your money and time trying 2532 02:08:49,240 --> 02:08:51,200 Speaker 6: to fight it, you can't even put a dent in it. 2533 02:08:51,480 --> 02:08:54,000 Speaker 6: But when you look at somebody like Louis Vuitton, who's 2534 02:08:54,200 --> 02:08:58,760 Speaker 6: the biggest company in the world LVMH, they're counterfeited all day. 2535 02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:01,800 Speaker 6: And actually a lot of the people buying the account 2536 02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:05,200 Speaker 6: if it, would never touch the brand anyway because they 2537 02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:06,560 Speaker 6: don't have the money for it. 2538 02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:10,160 Speaker 2: They don't have two thousands. That's the moral of the story. 2539 02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:14,640 Speaker 2: The moral you can't you cannot, you cannot stop. 2540 02:09:15,120 --> 02:09:18,240 Speaker 4: What you can do is make your your your goods 2541 02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:21,720 Speaker 4: quality that different from that, and you can. 2542 02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:22,760 Speaker 1: That's what helped us out. 2543 02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:25,040 Speaker 8: And it kind of sucks to say that you're Louis 2544 02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:27,960 Speaker 8: and your price point is up here, and the regular 2545 02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:30,200 Speaker 8: folks can't get get it, so they have to go 2546 02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:30,880 Speaker 8: boot leg. 2547 02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:31,800 Speaker 2: That kind of sucks. 2548 02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:34,000 Speaker 6: That's that happened because what happened when we grew up 2549 02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:36,760 Speaker 6: as kids, Remember we can wear a blank shirt and 2550 02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:38,960 Speaker 6: not get full, you know, and now whatever when you 2551 02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:41,760 Speaker 6: started to when you started to you know, all the 2552 02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:44,640 Speaker 6: brand and labels, and we became so labeled conscious. You 2553 02:09:44,720 --> 02:09:47,400 Speaker 6: couldn't go to school without something on right, right, absolutely, 2554 02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:50,440 Speaker 6: And that's what it is. So you know, it is 2555 02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:53,320 Speaker 6: a compliment, but it's a challenge. Is something that you 2556 02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:55,600 Speaker 6: you would have to spend a lot of your profit 2557 02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:57,680 Speaker 6: going after Sun stopped. 2558 02:09:57,600 --> 02:10:01,160 Speaker 4: Your ship bout leg all over the street. You're doing 2559 02:10:01,240 --> 02:10:05,680 Speaker 4: something right, yeah, but as they stop you doing something wrong. 2560 02:10:06,160 --> 02:10:08,200 Speaker 5: But let me ask you, because we spoke about it 2561 02:10:08,240 --> 02:10:11,280 Speaker 5: a little bit earlier. I had just went to Paris, right, 2562 02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:15,720 Speaker 5: and one thing that I noticed is it seems like 2563 02:10:16,280 --> 02:10:19,120 Speaker 5: if Louis doesn't sell the ship, they give it away, 2564 02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:24,920 Speaker 5: give it away, they burn it. Right. 2565 02:10:25,120 --> 02:10:28,960 Speaker 2: You'll never see Louis on discount. Oh no, I never did. 2566 02:10:29,400 --> 02:10:35,440 Speaker 5: But I remember times of me looking at seeing ladies 2567 02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:41,000 Speaker 5: with Louis garbage bags and everything with I'm about bums 2568 02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:43,600 Speaker 5: out there, like out there and I'm looking and I 2569 02:10:43,720 --> 02:10:45,720 Speaker 5: could almost tell the real Louis. 2570 02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:46,520 Speaker 2: Or the fake Louis. 2571 02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:49,280 Speaker 5: I could almost tell everybody got Louis out there, And 2572 02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:51,360 Speaker 5: there's no way everyone is rich out there? 2573 02:10:52,640 --> 02:10:56,200 Speaker 2: Is it easier for it to be like that, like 2574 02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:57,320 Speaker 2: just in New York? 2575 02:10:57,400 --> 02:10:59,760 Speaker 5: Because you know Foo Boo was the New York based brand, 2576 02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:02,000 Speaker 5: and say, you know what, fuck it instead of y'all 2577 02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:04,120 Speaker 5: bootlegging my ship, why don't we just give it to. 2578 02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:09,839 Speaker 2: Y'all at the law price that that devalues. 2579 02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:12,520 Speaker 4: But but the bottom line is a deep values the 2580 02:11:12,600 --> 02:11:15,360 Speaker 4: brain you and because you got remember you selling to 2581 02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:18,040 Speaker 4: Macie's at certain price, they got to keep that certain 2582 02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:20,440 Speaker 4: price and make their margins. If you got somebody right 2583 02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:21,760 Speaker 4: outside in the street. 2584 02:11:21,880 --> 02:11:23,600 Speaker 2: Like when he was a retailer, why would he then 2585 02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:25,360 Speaker 2: invest in buy it? Yeah? 2586 02:11:26,080 --> 02:11:29,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would think that that would be easier, 2587 02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:32,720 Speaker 5: right to like stop the bootlegger. It's like, you know 2588 02:11:32,800 --> 02:11:34,800 Speaker 5: what you got it, let me give you the real 2589 02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:36,080 Speaker 5: ship at a discount. 2590 02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:42,160 Speaker 2: Definitely that they getting it is you can't even less production. 2591 02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:43,240 Speaker 2: We put in too much. 2592 02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:48,240 Speaker 8: I'm imagining you have to equate all of that into 2593 02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:51,600 Speaker 8: the business model. And you know the thing in our 2594 02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:55,120 Speaker 8: world of that is people taking our content, ripping it 2595 02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:58,360 Speaker 8: and posting it and monetizing. Yeah, and we have to 2596 02:11:58,600 --> 02:12:01,520 Speaker 8: play a game of whack them all to say no copyright, copyright, 2597 02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:02,000 Speaker 8: car and you. 2598 02:12:02,080 --> 02:12:04,440 Speaker 2: Can't you can't really get Anyboddy. You can't stop. You 2599 02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:05,000 Speaker 2: can't stop. 2600 02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:07,960 Speaker 8: And at the end, if you're popping, you kind of 2601 02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:10,960 Speaker 8: want that to happen because the minute you're not popping. 2602 02:12:10,840 --> 02:12:14,880 Speaker 2: They're not gonna. It's the same thing. Yeah, it's like 2603 02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:15,680 Speaker 2: a double edged on. 2604 02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:16,360 Speaker 1: It is, it is. 2605 02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:17,240 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 2606 02:12:17,680 --> 02:12:21,160 Speaker 5: What's one thing besides besides twenty eighth street shit, But 2607 02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:24,080 Speaker 5: what's one thing that it was pretty wild man by 2608 02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:29,600 Speaker 5: You wish you could? You wanted to do as as Fooble? 2609 02:12:30,720 --> 02:12:32,720 Speaker 5: One thing I wish I want to do as foodball. 2610 02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:32,960 Speaker 5: We do. 2611 02:12:33,160 --> 02:12:33,360 Speaker 15: We do. 2612 02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:36,000 Speaker 2: Like if you something like a mistake that you made 2613 02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:39,200 Speaker 2: that you wish that that you could you could, you 2614 02:12:39,240 --> 02:12:39,880 Speaker 2: could do over. 2615 02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:44,520 Speaker 1: I would go and do the one or six and 2616 02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:47,680 Speaker 1: park job I got off. It was supposed to be 2617 02:12:47,800 --> 02:12:48,280 Speaker 1: me and free. 2618 02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:51,880 Speaker 5: Wow, you're supposed to be Bobby Brown early. You're supposed 2619 02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:52,000 Speaker 5: to be. 2620 02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:56,560 Speaker 1: Earlier early, but I told I chose, you know it 2621 02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:58,720 Speaker 1: with the time frame for me that we were just 2622 02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:01,240 Speaker 1: building Fooble and I was from we used to go 2623 02:13:01,320 --> 02:13:04,200 Speaker 1: to work from like ten to eight. B T wanted 2624 02:13:04,240 --> 02:13:07,160 Speaker 1: me from eleven to seven. So I was like, well, damn, 2625 02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:08,440 Speaker 1: how do I Well. 2626 02:13:08,360 --> 02:13:10,200 Speaker 2: I mean, couldn't have worked for the brand as well 2627 02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:11,840 Speaker 2: for you. I don't really remember that. 2628 02:13:14,200 --> 02:13:18,240 Speaker 1: It could have, but I just chose not to do 2629 02:13:18,440 --> 02:13:21,000 Speaker 1: it and stay with my dudes. And you know, but 2630 02:13:21,160 --> 02:13:24,040 Speaker 1: if I had the chance all over again, I definitely. 2631 02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:29,920 Speaker 2: Away us. Are you kidding me? We could have taken 2632 02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:30,360 Speaker 2: that out of. 2633 02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:37,000 Speaker 1: Distribution, but I didn't want to, Like, we was building 2634 02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:40,440 Speaker 1: something and we've been working so long, so now when 2635 02:13:40,480 --> 02:13:44,520 Speaker 1: we made it, then it's like it's easier be I'm 2636 02:13:44,520 --> 02:13:47,600 Speaker 1: gonna get secondhand knowledge, but I'm not gonna get that 2637 02:13:47,800 --> 02:13:51,640 Speaker 1: feeling that we were doing it together. And that's why 2638 02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:53,040 Speaker 1: I kind of say, you know what, I'm gonna stick 2639 02:13:53,080 --> 02:13:55,960 Speaker 1: with my guys and patched that up, you know what 2640 02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And plus the money was good at that time. 2641 02:13:58,640 --> 02:14:02,560 Speaker 1: We were taken, so it was good. But I wish 2642 02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:04,840 Speaker 1: I could have. I wish I could have did that 2643 02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:07,280 Speaker 1: because then I would have played it for out advantage, 2644 02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:07,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm. 2645 02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:11,040 Speaker 5: Saying, Yeah, because you would have been essentially helping the brand. 2646 02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that. 2647 02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:17,200 Speaker 1: I didn't have that knowledge back then, but couple years 2648 02:14:17,240 --> 02:14:21,560 Speaker 1: later I was like, damn, yeah, you know I can 2649 02:14:21,640 --> 02:14:21,920 Speaker 1: see that. 2650 02:14:22,000 --> 02:14:24,280 Speaker 5: Now because and especially if you would have been wearing 2651 02:14:24,320 --> 02:14:26,160 Speaker 5: football every day or it just totally made sense. 2652 02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:30,000 Speaker 2: So what's the one thing that you would think that 2653 02:14:30,240 --> 02:14:32,800 Speaker 2: you you would do time? 2654 02:14:32,920 --> 02:14:36,240 Speaker 4: I think because I was always one that really felt 2655 02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:40,560 Speaker 4: that food could exist in different areas in the industries. 2656 02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:48,080 Speaker 4: But I think that moving into more investments earlier, when 2657 02:14:48,120 --> 02:14:52,560 Speaker 4: you really had the resources to do it earlier, I 2658 02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:54,760 Speaker 4: think time I would have gave myself a little bit more. 2659 02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:56,480 Speaker 4: I would have acted earlier, and when it come to 2660 02:14:56,560 --> 02:15:01,480 Speaker 4: real estate, when it come to acquiring another company, use 2661 02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:02,680 Speaker 4: no resources sooner. 2662 02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:06,920 Speaker 2: Other than that, though, I think that we only a 2663 02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:09,920 Speaker 2: thirty year old company. Companies been around for hundred. 2664 02:15:10,960 --> 02:15:12,600 Speaker 5: But then there's some companies have been been around for 2665 02:15:12,640 --> 02:15:15,880 Speaker 5: no years, right, and they out they got companies. 2666 02:15:17,040 --> 02:15:20,560 Speaker 2: Was our ability to stay here. So now I think 2667 02:15:20,600 --> 02:15:22,880 Speaker 2: it's a great time for us to really move into 2668 02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:27,120 Speaker 2: these places and deal with I didn't know about investment 2669 02:15:27,200 --> 02:15:30,000 Speaker 2: capital groups, the investment bankers and all these things like that. 2670 02:15:30,520 --> 02:15:32,760 Speaker 2: I know that our brand now can be leveraged in 2671 02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:36,000 Speaker 2: these arenas to bring it this revenue to do these things. 2672 02:15:36,080 --> 02:15:38,280 Speaker 2: So I would have liked to do it earlier, but 2673 02:15:38,360 --> 02:15:40,200 Speaker 2: I think right now it's a great time to do it. 2674 02:15:42,240 --> 02:15:46,040 Speaker 6: And of cool as Fooble, I someonet agree with Carl, 2675 02:15:46,120 --> 02:15:49,720 Speaker 6: because you know, I didn't have financial intelligence, none of 2676 02:15:49,800 --> 02:15:50,240 Speaker 6: us stadium. 2677 02:15:50,240 --> 02:15:52,240 Speaker 2: For the first I was on. 2678 02:15:52,280 --> 02:15:56,560 Speaker 6: Bankrupt twice before we had Fuoble, and once when we 2679 02:15:56,640 --> 02:15:58,880 Speaker 6: had Fooble. When I made the first bulk of money 2680 02:15:59,000 --> 02:16:05,360 Speaker 6: in Fuble, you know, I spent it and straight up 2681 02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:08,480 Speaker 6: and again I spent this but I didn't even spend 2682 02:16:08,480 --> 02:16:09,440 Speaker 6: it on the straight laverage. 2683 02:16:09,480 --> 02:16:10,840 Speaker 2: I just didn't know how money worked. 2684 02:16:11,400 --> 02:16:13,839 Speaker 6: And the biggest thing in this world or in this country, 2685 02:16:13,960 --> 02:16:16,600 Speaker 6: the way that you get wealthy in this country is 2686 02:16:16,720 --> 02:16:17,960 Speaker 6: to understand. 2687 02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:20,200 Speaker 2: Tax codes, tax and what to do. 2688 02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:22,800 Speaker 6: And what I learned later on on is that as 2689 02:16:22,840 --> 02:16:24,520 Speaker 6: I was running the company, and we have great partners 2690 02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:26,520 Speaker 6: and distributors who were trying to teach it to me. 2691 02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:30,760 Speaker 6: But as a young man coming into money, where I 2692 02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:32,520 Speaker 6: started really making my money is all the things I 2693 02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:35,440 Speaker 6: bought with all the homes, all everything else. Later on 2694 02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:37,720 Speaker 6: when I get rid of it in six and money 2695 02:16:37,760 --> 02:16:39,440 Speaker 6: that I kind of put away a little bit in 2696 02:16:39,520 --> 02:16:46,360 Speaker 6: investment that scaled crazy and I had seven times that 2697 02:16:46,480 --> 02:16:51,840 Speaker 6: amount prior that I blew. And so you look as 2698 02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:54,400 Speaker 6: I talked to a lot of billionaires and people we know, 2699 02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:57,320 Speaker 6: you'll look at a billionaire and a billionaire wild and 2700 02:16:57,680 --> 02:17:00,480 Speaker 6: then these always walk around those old scale path you 2701 02:17:00,480 --> 02:17:02,240 Speaker 6: remember those things that those school, those paths were on 2702 02:17:02,240 --> 02:17:03,120 Speaker 6: the school that black and white. 2703 02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:04,720 Speaker 2: You fill out, you got to fill out the cover. 2704 02:17:05,200 --> 02:17:06,840 Speaker 6: I just always said, like a billion of friends, like 2705 02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:08,760 Speaker 6: even Mark Cuban, I'll be like, what are you writing down? 2706 02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:11,279 Speaker 6: I just heard about a new tax cold. 2707 02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:12,240 Speaker 2: That many billionaire friends. 2708 02:17:13,160 --> 02:17:15,520 Speaker 5: You know, I've been watching enough and we've been watching 2709 02:17:16,080 --> 02:17:18,560 Speaker 5: not even billion they were right down, they were right down. 2710 02:17:18,560 --> 02:17:19,480 Speaker 2: So what do you left? 2711 02:17:19,920 --> 02:17:22,160 Speaker 6: What are you writing down? Oh well, I just heard 2712 02:17:22,160 --> 02:17:24,720 Speaker 6: about this new tax code. So just give you a 2713 02:17:24,760 --> 02:17:27,440 Speaker 6: quick example. You know, two years ago when COVID happened, 2714 02:17:27,520 --> 02:17:30,520 Speaker 6: right when we were getting out of COVID, uh, the 2715 02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:32,640 Speaker 6: IRIS had passed with that COVID act that if you 2716 02:17:32,720 --> 02:17:35,760 Speaker 6: go to a restaurant and you support a restaurant for 2717 02:17:35,800 --> 02:17:38,360 Speaker 6: a business meal, that's a one hundred per tax right off. 2718 02:17:39,080 --> 02:17:40,119 Speaker 2: Make it a way I was at. 2719 02:17:41,760 --> 02:17:41,800 Speaker 5: Me. 2720 02:17:42,040 --> 02:17:43,760 Speaker 2: Let me, let me show you how the tax code works, 2721 02:17:44,680 --> 02:17:45,320 Speaker 2: or the time work. 2722 02:17:45,440 --> 02:17:48,240 Speaker 6: If you go to a hotel at that time and 2723 02:17:48,400 --> 02:17:51,520 Speaker 6: you put your food on the key on the room 2724 02:17:51,600 --> 02:17:54,400 Speaker 6: key at the hotel, that's only fifty percent right off 2725 02:17:54,400 --> 02:17:56,240 Speaker 6: because it's under the hotel. But if you took out 2726 02:17:56,240 --> 02:17:58,840 Speaker 6: your credit cards separately and laid it down on the restaurant, 2727 02:17:58,920 --> 02:18:01,520 Speaker 6: one hundred percent right off. So you just probably realized, 2728 02:18:01,560 --> 02:18:08,680 Speaker 6: you you probably realized that if you spent yesterday, it's about. 2729 02:18:17,160 --> 02:18:19,880 Speaker 2: No. No, But you got the point right there. 2730 02:18:20,560 --> 02:18:22,520 Speaker 6: When I first and we first made money and we 2731 02:18:22,560 --> 02:18:24,400 Speaker 6: were talking, we were just like we were so happy 2732 02:18:24,440 --> 02:18:25,199 Speaker 6: were making money. 2733 02:18:25,680 --> 02:18:27,920 Speaker 2: The accountants don't tell us that because they think we 2734 02:18:28,120 --> 02:18:30,000 Speaker 2: know they're just trying to do it. 2735 02:18:30,120 --> 02:18:32,120 Speaker 6: And then because you know when when all of us 2736 02:18:32,160 --> 02:18:35,520 Speaker 6: talk about accounting and so yeah, I get glossy, oh am, 2737 02:18:35,560 --> 02:18:36,560 Speaker 6: I going on extension? 2738 02:18:36,680 --> 02:18:37,360 Speaker 2: What are you talking? We? 2739 02:18:37,560 --> 02:18:40,160 Speaker 6: I never said what's up? And they never said hey, 2740 02:18:40,280 --> 02:18:42,000 Speaker 6: what did? They used to say something like hell, you 2741 02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:43,959 Speaker 6: need to know. I'm like whatever I'm. 2742 02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:46,640 Speaker 5: Putting business spends on personal cards. So when I talked 2743 02:18:46,640 --> 02:18:47,200 Speaker 5: to billionaire. 2744 02:18:47,480 --> 02:18:51,320 Speaker 6: When really wealthy people, they go, listen, I made a 2745 02:18:51,360 --> 02:18:53,520 Speaker 6: half a billion dollars this year of five hundred million 2746 02:18:53,520 --> 02:18:55,800 Speaker 6: dollars in my businesses this year. Now I can either 2747 02:18:55,920 --> 02:18:59,480 Speaker 6: be under these tax implement implementation. I can't even say 2748 02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:02,959 Speaker 6: the word implications, and you have yeah, yeah, exactly. 2749 02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:05,320 Speaker 2: But I'm just like me. 2750 02:19:05,959 --> 02:19:08,680 Speaker 6: But they said, if I do a half a billion 2751 02:19:08,720 --> 02:19:10,720 Speaker 6: dollar five hundred million dollars, I can need to spend 2752 02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:13,200 Speaker 6: two hundred and fifty million dollars and give that back 2753 02:19:13,240 --> 02:19:16,080 Speaker 6: to the irs. I can try to start a new business, 2754 02:19:16,720 --> 02:19:19,000 Speaker 6: or I can try to save as much taxes legally, 2755 02:19:19,160 --> 02:19:21,920 Speaker 6: where I only give them back one hundred and fifty 2756 02:19:22,120 --> 02:19:26,520 Speaker 6: and I keep whatever right I want to. I already 2757 02:19:26,720 --> 02:19:30,080 Speaker 6: made the money. Why am I paying it in taxes? 2758 02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:32,720 Speaker 6: If I utilize these tax codes. You want me to 2759 02:19:32,800 --> 02:19:36,480 Speaker 6: start a new business, getting new employees, hopefully marketed, maybe 2760 02:19:36,600 --> 02:19:37,760 Speaker 6: make money, or. 2761 02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:40,480 Speaker 2: Instead of paying instead of paying two to fifty, I 2762 02:19:40,600 --> 02:19:42,120 Speaker 2: paid I made one hundred. 2763 02:19:43,160 --> 02:19:45,200 Speaker 6: It's not about how much you make, it's how much 2764 02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:47,520 Speaker 6: you retain and when you have businesses and stuff like that. 2765 02:19:47,640 --> 02:19:51,439 Speaker 6: And earlier on fooboo days, the money in the operation 2766 02:19:51,560 --> 02:19:54,400 Speaker 6: has called said to acquire more stuff and do more things. 2767 02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:57,360 Speaker 6: Three hundred and fifty million dollars running through a system. 2768 02:19:57,440 --> 02:20:00,879 Speaker 6: Let's say we're distributing twenty thirty million of that a year, 2769 02:20:01,280 --> 02:20:03,800 Speaker 6: and we're paying fifteen million in taxes. We could have 2770 02:20:03,840 --> 02:20:07,800 Speaker 6: maybe paid five million in taxes and taken that other 2771 02:20:07,879 --> 02:20:10,280 Speaker 6: taking out of the ten rolled it into the business. 2772 02:20:10,320 --> 02:20:13,240 Speaker 2: It's almost like somebody here, anybody who knows real estate. 2773 02:20:13,640 --> 02:20:16,960 Speaker 6: If you sit there and buy a certain sell a 2774 02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:19,880 Speaker 6: certain property, if you do a ten twenty one exchange 2775 02:20:19,959 --> 02:20:22,879 Speaker 6: or something like that, you don't have you right if 2776 02:20:22,959 --> 02:20:25,640 Speaker 6: you have stocks right now, if you sell your if 2777 02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:28,960 Speaker 6: you went into Apple and you sell your stock and 2778 02:20:29,400 --> 02:20:30,920 Speaker 6: it went up two times and last I don't know 2779 02:20:30,959 --> 02:20:33,360 Speaker 6: how many. If you sell it under a year, you 2780 02:20:33,560 --> 02:20:37,280 Speaker 6: pay a normal tax, right forty five fifty percent. If 2781 02:20:37,280 --> 02:20:39,440 Speaker 6: you sell it in a year and a day, you 2782 02:20:39,560 --> 02:20:43,160 Speaker 6: pay only twenty percent. Because that's capital gains. All these 2783 02:20:43,400 --> 02:20:47,040 Speaker 6: are just basic fundamentals. That is, African Americans and yellow 2784 02:20:47,240 --> 02:20:49,840 Speaker 6: and black people and brown people, a lot of us 2785 02:20:49,879 --> 02:20:52,920 Speaker 6: don't understand that's where the difference of wealth is. Because 2786 02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:56,040 Speaker 6: if you do that over twenty years, and if I 2787 02:20:56,040 --> 02:20:58,600 Speaker 6: would have learned that earlier, when I had when we 2788 02:20:58,720 --> 02:21:01,920 Speaker 6: had Foo, well we could have been LVM as as 2789 02:21:01,959 --> 02:21:02,560 Speaker 6: well as you. 2790 02:21:02,560 --> 02:21:04,480 Speaker 2: Know this is you know in public and all these 2791 02:21:04,520 --> 02:21:07,440 Speaker 2: other things that we just understand that it's always about. 2792 02:21:07,560 --> 02:21:09,600 Speaker 2: And the people who have this knowledge are willing to 2793 02:21:09,720 --> 02:21:10,000 Speaker 2: tell you. 2794 02:21:11,640 --> 02:21:13,480 Speaker 6: We're just so busy trying to buy cause when we 2795 02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:15,920 Speaker 6: were kids that we didn't know any better. 2796 02:21:16,680 --> 02:21:20,200 Speaker 2: But the like, the good side of it is we 2797 02:21:20,480 --> 02:21:24,080 Speaker 2: have going through that Foo is still here. I still 2798 02:21:24,120 --> 02:21:25,199 Speaker 2: have a consumer. 2799 02:21:24,840 --> 02:21:28,120 Speaker 4: Base, and I think even now the meeting of Fubo 2800 02:21:28,520 --> 02:21:31,600 Speaker 4: is bigger than when we started, so leveraging that I 2801 02:21:31,720 --> 02:21:34,040 Speaker 4: think going forward and dealing with the knowledge that we 2802 02:21:34,160 --> 02:21:38,480 Speaker 4: have and dealing with real bankers and investment groups and 2803 02:21:38,600 --> 02:21:39,600 Speaker 4: really bringing in. 2804 02:21:40,440 --> 02:21:43,840 Speaker 2: No saying projects that's going to last a lifetime. We 2805 02:21:43,920 --> 02:21:45,560 Speaker 2: should have had a billion dollar fund. 2806 02:21:45,680 --> 02:21:49,680 Speaker 6: Fool to acquire and or partner with all emerging brands 2807 02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:53,320 Speaker 6: in any category and give them our back end. And 2808 02:21:53,520 --> 02:21:55,880 Speaker 6: thank god and our partners ended up showing us and 2809 02:21:55,920 --> 02:21:58,240 Speaker 6: we learned off each other because once I started learning this, 2810 02:21:58,800 --> 02:21:59,720 Speaker 6: I got so excited. 2811 02:21:59,760 --> 02:22:01,520 Speaker 2: I was talking about so much on television. 2812 02:22:01,600 --> 02:22:03,080 Speaker 6: Some guy Nam Mark when they called me from Shark 2813 02:22:03,320 --> 02:22:06,160 Speaker 6: and said, Yo, you know about some stuff that people 2814 02:22:06,200 --> 02:22:08,680 Speaker 6: don't know, but it was exciting when we learned it, 2815 02:22:08,959 --> 02:22:10,959 Speaker 6: you know, And and that's why we're still here and. 2816 02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:13,160 Speaker 5: An emerging I mean, I'm sure you guys have probably 2817 02:22:13,240 --> 02:22:15,080 Speaker 5: done this, but in emerging markets as well. 2818 02:22:15,520 --> 02:22:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, like out of the out of this country. 2819 02:22:18,640 --> 02:22:21,880 Speaker 5: I went to South Africa and their street where brands 2820 02:22:21,920 --> 02:22:23,240 Speaker 5: are out of control. 2821 02:22:23,760 --> 02:22:25,000 Speaker 1: In South Africa, right, Yeah. 2822 02:22:25,360 --> 02:22:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I said, it's it's unlimited. 2823 02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:30,280 Speaker 4: It's just really growing at a scale that you can 2824 02:22:30,440 --> 02:22:33,160 Speaker 4: control and not doing too much too soon. 2825 02:22:33,560 --> 02:22:35,959 Speaker 1: I met Nelson Mandela in South Africa. 2826 02:22:36,560 --> 02:22:40,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, building the food store in the most really, that's 2827 02:22:40,879 --> 02:22:41,440 Speaker 5: we got stored. 2828 02:22:41,640 --> 02:22:46,360 Speaker 2: Wait what got Africa? That's an ill part of the story. Man, 2829 02:22:46,520 --> 02:22:48,600 Speaker 2: We went to Africa. You had a food store in 2830 02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:49,320 Speaker 2: South Africa? 2831 02:22:49,400 --> 02:22:49,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2832 02:22:51,160 --> 02:22:58,680 Speaker 2: Earlier we are doing the whole parties and all that. 2833 02:22:59,480 --> 02:23:01,280 Speaker 2: That's like that's like there and what that's like New 2834 02:23:01,360 --> 02:23:02,959 Speaker 2: York City and then the license. 2835 02:23:03,000 --> 02:23:04,920 Speaker 1: He was like, oh, just cover the plom and know 2836 02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:06,960 Speaker 1: some Mendula's people you want to meet y'all. I'm like, 2837 02:23:08,600 --> 02:23:11,160 Speaker 1: come on, bro, don't play with me like that. And 2838 02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:13,560 Speaker 1: he was like no, I'm serious. We went to go 2839 02:23:13,680 --> 02:23:16,720 Speaker 1: meet him somehow somewhere he had to go fly out 2840 02:23:16,760 --> 02:23:18,560 Speaker 1: to meet the dignitary. They called us, Oh, he's not 2841 02:23:18,600 --> 02:23:20,360 Speaker 1: gonna be able to meet you. I'm like, we was 2842 02:23:20,520 --> 02:23:25,800 Speaker 1: just closed. We went the rest of the trip, did 2843 02:23:25,840 --> 02:23:27,960 Speaker 1: our thing. Two three days. Lady calls us back and 2844 02:23:28,040 --> 02:23:30,480 Speaker 1: says he's home. He wants to come back buy his crib. 2845 02:23:30,600 --> 02:23:33,080 Speaker 1: And we went to his crib and we. 2846 02:23:33,160 --> 02:23:37,880 Speaker 2: Got so much history and stuff like that. I went 2847 02:23:37,920 --> 02:23:45,359 Speaker 2: to crib. Come on, that's hard. 2848 02:23:46,600 --> 02:23:46,760 Speaker 5: Say. 2849 02:23:47,000 --> 02:23:48,080 Speaker 2: I'm sitting in the living room. 2850 02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:50,400 Speaker 1: They're like, no pictures pleased. I was like, flash off, 2851 02:23:55,800 --> 02:23:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, the camera got lost some god you know, 2852 02:23:58,720 --> 02:23:59,520 Speaker 1: calm as them up. 2853 02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:02,360 Speaker 2: But he came down the steps. 2854 02:24:02,440 --> 02:24:04,160 Speaker 1: We went outside, spoked him for a little while and 2855 02:24:04,240 --> 02:24:05,879 Speaker 1: went outside in front of his door. 2856 02:24:05,959 --> 02:24:08,160 Speaker 2: We took my biggest regrad in my life. And I 2857 02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:08,959 Speaker 2: didn't take that trip. 2858 02:24:09,000 --> 02:24:12,080 Speaker 5: I was. I was with him and Jay took that trip. 2859 02:24:12,120 --> 02:24:17,360 Speaker 5: But you can look at it to Great Pool Instagram. 2860 02:24:17,440 --> 02:24:19,520 Speaker 6: See that we were the last brand to work with 2861 02:24:19,920 --> 02:24:22,199 Speaker 6: and license and partner with Mom and I'll leave before 2862 02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:25,440 Speaker 6: he died. I'm the most photographed man in the world 2863 02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:28,000 Speaker 6: in history who was never seen in the brand at all. 2864 02:24:28,600 --> 02:24:31,400 Speaker 2: Was seen in Foolboo three times. You met Mohammad. That 2865 02:24:31,480 --> 02:24:33,440 Speaker 2: was Michael Jackson. I'm talking about you did. 2866 02:24:35,080 --> 02:24:35,440 Speaker 5: He wore? 2867 02:24:35,600 --> 02:24:39,600 Speaker 6: He wore He was the only brand with any label 2868 02:24:39,720 --> 02:24:42,240 Speaker 6: on it in history that Michael Jackson ever wore. So 2869 02:24:42,440 --> 02:24:44,920 Speaker 6: and we have the three pictures and and you would 2870 02:24:44,920 --> 02:24:47,720 Speaker 6: see that. I think we've had a lot of We've 2871 02:24:47,720 --> 02:24:49,400 Speaker 6: had a lot of great success in our life, man. 2872 02:24:49,360 --> 02:24:52,120 Speaker 2: So we're pleasure. It's amazing, it's an honor. 2873 02:24:52,280 --> 02:24:53,240 Speaker 1: Now we mess some people. 2874 02:24:53,320 --> 02:24:53,480 Speaker 5: Man. 2875 02:24:53,760 --> 02:24:55,480 Speaker 6: And by the way, nobody's done the story yet. Still 2876 02:24:55,640 --> 02:24:57,840 Speaker 6: nobody's on the documentary because because pool, he ain't dying. Now, 2877 02:24:57,879 --> 02:24:59,840 Speaker 6: somebody got the ass whipped in the story, but he ain't. 2878 02:25:05,480 --> 02:25:07,680 Speaker 2: But motherfucker got your head. Yeah. 2879 02:25:08,520 --> 02:25:14,960 Speaker 5: But like, like again, I know I somewhat asked this earlier, right, 2880 02:25:15,280 --> 02:25:17,600 Speaker 5: And I know you guys alluded to like you guys 2881 02:25:17,680 --> 02:25:19,959 Speaker 5: being for instance, kids, and you guys being for instance, 2882 02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:23,400 Speaker 5: high school, But how is it to be friends for 2883 02:25:23,560 --> 02:25:26,440 Speaker 5: thirty two years? Like again, you said it earlier. You 2884 02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:28,680 Speaker 5: was like, man, you won't hear none of the bullshit 2885 02:25:28,760 --> 02:25:29,240 Speaker 5: about us. 2886 02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:33,360 Speaker 2: Of him for fifty years. Yes, it's for forty forty. 2887 02:25:33,520 --> 02:25:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm like thirty eight, thirty nine. I know they like 2888 02:25:37,160 --> 02:25:40,240 Speaker 1: what fifty right, for forty fifty nine. 2889 02:25:40,680 --> 02:25:44,120 Speaker 2: It's like brothers man like like to listen, we afford you. 2890 02:25:44,440 --> 02:25:46,040 Speaker 2: I don't even we're going to have each other for 2891 02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:50,160 Speaker 2: one year. Physical fight, that's fact. Hold on, hold on, 2892 02:25:50,280 --> 02:25:51,080 Speaker 2: let me just be clear. 2893 02:25:51,160 --> 02:25:53,600 Speaker 5: Let's me clear. I want to reiterate what I'm trying 2894 02:25:53,600 --> 02:25:58,000 Speaker 5: to say. This friends who just met each other, and then. 2895 02:25:57,920 --> 02:25:59,000 Speaker 2: The friends. 2896 02:26:00,440 --> 02:26:07,000 Speaker 5: The minute they got money together, it deteriorated. So for 2897 02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:09,840 Speaker 5: I want people who was inspiring to be friends for 2898 02:26:09,920 --> 02:26:11,840 Speaker 5: as long as you guys been friends, and has long 2899 02:26:11,920 --> 02:26:14,160 Speaker 5: you guys been friends, Like I need y'all to tell 2900 02:26:14,240 --> 02:26:22,040 Speaker 5: me because I witnessed this this rap game. It's probably 2901 02:26:22,120 --> 02:26:24,520 Speaker 5: one of the most dislawyers. I felt more honor and 2902 02:26:24,640 --> 02:26:25,400 Speaker 5: drug dealing. 2903 02:26:25,240 --> 02:26:27,840 Speaker 2: At one point. You know, we understand that makes sense, 2904 02:26:27,959 --> 02:26:30,360 Speaker 2: you know what I mean because it's like it's honest, like, yo, 2905 02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:33,520 Speaker 2: don't do that. I won't do that, Harsher constable. But 2906 02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:37,000 Speaker 2: in hip hop sometimes it's like, you know, if he 2907 02:26:37,040 --> 02:26:43,520 Speaker 2: ain't gonna do it, I'll do it. What why is it? 2908 02:26:43,640 --> 02:26:44,240 Speaker 2: Just do that? 2909 02:26:44,640 --> 02:26:48,080 Speaker 5: You know you were wrong for doing that, and then 2910 02:26:48,120 --> 02:26:51,640 Speaker 5: you guys are this long relationship. There's so many people 2911 02:26:51,680 --> 02:26:54,800 Speaker 5: that's gonna watch this show. Ain't gonna say I need 2912 02:26:54,879 --> 02:26:56,600 Speaker 5: to know how the fuck they kept it together. We 2913 02:26:56,760 --> 02:26:59,520 Speaker 5: know that you'll had bad times, but how did y'all 2914 02:26:59,640 --> 02:27:02,879 Speaker 5: keep it together through the bad times, good times, up 2915 02:27:02,920 --> 02:27:05,320 Speaker 5: and down, whatever, How did y'all keep it together? 2916 02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:06,680 Speaker 2: Let me start, Let me, let me start with you, 2917 02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:07,039 Speaker 2: Let me. 2918 02:27:12,400 --> 02:27:12,440 Speaker 5: On. 2919 02:27:14,280 --> 02:27:18,760 Speaker 1: But I always credited to us knowing each other before 2920 02:27:19,200 --> 02:27:22,720 Speaker 1: the business, like we were super cool since we were young, 2921 02:27:22,879 --> 02:27:24,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We grew up together. We 2922 02:27:25,040 --> 02:27:27,520 Speaker 1: experienced a lot of different things together. We experienced a 2923 02:27:27,560 --> 02:27:31,920 Speaker 1: lot of first together. So even when we were doing fooble, 2924 02:27:32,720 --> 02:27:36,440 Speaker 1: everybody was kind of doing their own thing. This dude is, no, 2925 02:27:36,840 --> 02:27:39,520 Speaker 1: we're doing We're doing the brand, but we got different 2926 02:27:39,520 --> 02:27:42,959 Speaker 1: projects we're working on. At the time, this guy recognized 2927 02:27:43,000 --> 02:27:47,280 Speaker 1: that Cas wasn't one hundred percent focused, so he was like, yo, listen, 2928 02:27:47,360 --> 02:27:49,200 Speaker 1: we just booked this. How we're gonna get out of 2929 02:27:49,240 --> 02:27:51,800 Speaker 1: this whole? YadA YadA. It was it was thinking thinking 2930 02:27:51,800 --> 02:27:53,760 Speaker 1: grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, Oh that's the one I 2931 02:27:53,800 --> 02:27:54,400 Speaker 1: read the book. 2932 02:27:55,080 --> 02:27:58,600 Speaker 2: I was like, damn, sorry, thinking. 2933 02:28:00,760 --> 02:28:03,160 Speaker 6: The whole all the volumes that he has, all the volumes, yeah, 2934 02:28:03,160 --> 02:28:06,480 Speaker 6: but thinking it is attributed besides any religious book, that 2935 02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:08,400 Speaker 6: being the book, the number one book. 2936 02:28:09,920 --> 02:28:13,520 Speaker 2: We're talking about. It's a great book we read. 2937 02:28:13,520 --> 02:28:18,320 Speaker 1: And got everybody focused. So for us getting together and 2938 02:28:18,440 --> 02:28:21,680 Speaker 1: then going down this road and seeing this thing mature 2939 02:28:22,240 --> 02:28:24,920 Speaker 1: year after year after year. But we're enjoying ourselves the 2940 02:28:24,959 --> 02:28:27,800 Speaker 1: same way, Like we're having fun with partying, We're doing 2941 02:28:27,879 --> 02:28:29,640 Speaker 1: things we ain't never did. We seeing money we ain't 2942 02:28:29,640 --> 02:28:32,000 Speaker 1: never seen, we're traveling all over the world. So it 2943 02:28:32,120 --> 02:28:34,920 Speaker 1: just made us closer. And then by the time, you know, 2944 02:28:35,879 --> 02:28:39,040 Speaker 1: years later, when it wasn't doing anything, we was already 2945 02:28:39,160 --> 02:28:41,640 Speaker 1: like brothers. Like you know what I'm saying, Like, Okay, 2946 02:28:42,320 --> 02:28:45,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hot one day, the next day won't 2947 02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:47,120 Speaker 1: and we still won't have the love for each other 2948 02:28:47,240 --> 02:28:49,120 Speaker 1: that we have. You know what I'm saying, Even though 2949 02:28:49,160 --> 02:28:51,000 Speaker 1: Monday I might want to kick his ass or when 2950 02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:53,680 Speaker 1: to kick his ass, but then next day after that 2951 02:28:53,800 --> 02:28:55,080 Speaker 1: we're like, yo, what you're gonna go to dinner. 2952 02:28:55,720 --> 02:28:57,879 Speaker 6: It's very rarely gotten to the point where we even 2953 02:28:57,920 --> 02:28:59,480 Speaker 6: want to lay hands with each other. When I was, 2954 02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:02,000 Speaker 6: I mean, I've got an extremely man at him, he's 2955 02:29:02,000 --> 02:29:05,160 Speaker 6: got an extremely man at me. I don't know if 2956 02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:06,840 Speaker 6: I can ever pull my well first of all, I 2957 02:29:06,840 --> 02:29:08,560 Speaker 6: ain't no gangs, and I ain't no I don't try 2958 02:29:08,600 --> 02:29:09,200 Speaker 6: to play like that. 2959 02:29:09,320 --> 02:29:10,879 Speaker 2: But I don't know if I can ever strike. 2960 02:29:11,640 --> 02:29:14,920 Speaker 6: Even if I know brothers, little little brothers, they beat 2961 02:29:14,959 --> 02:29:16,520 Speaker 6: each other to death at the time to love each other. 2962 02:29:17,160 --> 02:29:18,959 Speaker 2: I don't know. But even gotten to that point when 2963 02:29:18,959 --> 02:29:23,680 Speaker 2: I say, we've had problems, right, you know, but pictures, 2964 02:29:23,720 --> 02:29:24,600 Speaker 2: but hold on, I want to keep it. 2965 02:29:24,600 --> 02:29:26,560 Speaker 5: I want to keep it to the question what made 2966 02:29:26,640 --> 02:29:29,280 Speaker 5: y'all keep it together? What made you on your part? 2967 02:29:29,600 --> 02:29:31,720 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, what made you keep it together? 2968 02:29:31,959 --> 02:29:33,360 Speaker 2: Picture Like, I knew that. 2969 02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:37,040 Speaker 4: I was with a couple of casts that first of all, 2970 02:29:37,040 --> 02:29:40,680 Speaker 4: I love like I'll be with them for free. We 2971 02:29:40,800 --> 02:29:43,200 Speaker 4: had that much fun together as just friends. 2972 02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:48,600 Speaker 2: However, I knew that I was with three of the 2973 02:29:48,720 --> 02:29:52,920 Speaker 2: smartest casts that I could find in my network. Fire. 2974 02:29:53,120 --> 02:29:54,840 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And that said, if we 2975 02:29:54,920 --> 02:29:57,080 Speaker 4: can whatever it is, we can work together. We can 2976 02:29:57,160 --> 02:30:01,400 Speaker 4: make it successful, either a food woo store, whatever it is, we. 2977 02:30:01,440 --> 02:30:03,520 Speaker 2: Can make it successful. We worked together. So my whole 2978 02:30:03,560 --> 02:30:06,039 Speaker 2: thing was always looking at the big picture. I knew 2979 02:30:06,040 --> 02:30:08,080 Speaker 2: he was the boss. He put up most of the money, 2980 02:30:08,280 --> 02:30:10,360 Speaker 2: he took most of the risks. So that's the boss. 2981 02:30:10,760 --> 02:30:13,360 Speaker 2: I knew I needed key for certain things, for certain things. 2982 02:30:13,600 --> 02:30:15,440 Speaker 4: My whole thing was to try to make sure that, 2983 02:30:16,520 --> 02:30:20,760 Speaker 4: besides my ego and besides trying to do everything my way, 2984 02:30:21,120 --> 02:30:23,280 Speaker 4: to work together, because the only way we're gonna make 2985 02:30:23,320 --> 02:30:26,280 Speaker 4: this should happen is we work together. And at this point, 2986 02:30:26,360 --> 02:30:31,120 Speaker 4: even now, the successful demon is he still asks about football, 2987 02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:32,760 Speaker 4: right saying football is still a. 2988 02:30:32,800 --> 02:30:33,640 Speaker 2: Part of his story. 2989 02:30:34,200 --> 02:30:38,119 Speaker 4: So the more successful footbal is, the more successful Dame 2990 02:30:38,160 --> 02:30:41,080 Speaker 4: it is. And so we still gotta we still have 2991 02:30:41,320 --> 02:30:44,160 Speaker 4: that bond together to make this whole brand successful in 2992 02:30:44,200 --> 02:30:47,199 Speaker 4: my opinion, and that's just my goal for the next decade. 2993 02:30:48,959 --> 02:30:54,800 Speaker 6: Yes, the same person, you know, I think that. First 2994 02:30:54,840 --> 02:30:57,680 Speaker 6: of all, we've had a whole lot of really hard 2995 02:30:57,760 --> 02:31:01,040 Speaker 6: discussions with each other when somebody's falling short, and like, yo, 2996 02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:07,400 Speaker 6: we can replace what you're doing. You can still get distributions, 2997 02:31:07,480 --> 02:31:10,120 Speaker 6: but you won't have the job, you won't have the title. 2998 02:31:11,520 --> 02:31:13,400 Speaker 6: We don't like what you're doing, you're going wrong or 2999 02:31:13,920 --> 02:31:16,200 Speaker 6: you're not stepping up. And that's after years of fault. 3000 02:31:16,440 --> 02:31:18,200 Speaker 5: But I've meant to Oh my bad, I'm sorry, I 3001 02:31:18,360 --> 02:31:20,039 Speaker 5: meant the relationship with you guys know what. 3002 02:31:20,040 --> 02:31:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying that the business the business part relationship. Okay, okay, okay, okay. 3003 02:31:24,240 --> 02:31:27,360 Speaker 5: But second of all, I guess the best way to 3004 02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:28,960 Speaker 5: say it is, it's each of our job. 3005 02:31:29,200 --> 02:31:34,760 Speaker 6: We never exploited a weakness. I will never exploit his 3006 02:31:34,879 --> 02:31:38,280 Speaker 6: weakness and vice versa. And it's our job, I think, 3007 02:31:38,360 --> 02:31:44,040 Speaker 6: as brothers and partners to protect each other's faults because 3008 02:31:44,160 --> 02:31:49,360 Speaker 6: if he looks fucked up, Mike, Mike Candle, don't shine 3009 02:31:49,400 --> 02:31:51,320 Speaker 6: brighter if his is blown out. You know what I mean, 3010 02:31:51,400 --> 02:31:54,720 Speaker 6: We all look fucked up, and it's my job. Now 3011 02:31:54,720 --> 02:31:56,400 Speaker 6: if he wants to listen to me or not, this cool, 3012 02:31:56,440 --> 02:31:58,120 Speaker 6: but then now I got Calls the backup, and I 3013 02:31:58,160 --> 02:31:59,280 Speaker 6: got Jay is the backup. 3014 02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm not anyone to listen like one of us go. 3015 02:32:01,760 --> 02:32:04,200 Speaker 2: We ain't fucking Joe on that guyhead man, But it's 3016 02:32:04,320 --> 02:32:05,520 Speaker 2: my job to protect him. 3017 02:32:05,560 --> 02:32:07,520 Speaker 6: My job to protect him and his job to protect 3018 02:32:07,560 --> 02:32:09,560 Speaker 6: me when I'm asking out because it hurts us all. 3019 02:32:09,959 --> 02:32:12,199 Speaker 6: So I think that that we never exploit a weakness 3020 02:32:12,800 --> 02:32:14,800 Speaker 6: and we protect each other. We may not agree with you, 3021 02:32:15,200 --> 02:32:17,800 Speaker 6: we may not co sign on what you're doing. Well, 3022 02:32:17,800 --> 02:32:19,240 Speaker 6: say yo, man, I ain't fucking with you on that, 3023 02:32:19,360 --> 02:32:21,320 Speaker 6: like you want to fight those casts and keep it real. 3024 02:32:21,640 --> 02:32:23,880 Speaker 6: I told you we hired these people to do so, 3025 02:32:26,640 --> 02:32:29,560 Speaker 6: and that dude looked really big. I told you we 3026 02:32:29,760 --> 02:32:33,320 Speaker 6: hire these people for that purpose. But the bottom line 3027 02:32:33,400 --> 02:32:37,080 Speaker 6: is I gotta protect him. I gotta protect him, even 3028 02:32:37,120 --> 02:32:39,160 Speaker 6: if he stabbed me in the back, will get over 3029 02:32:39,240 --> 02:32:42,400 Speaker 6: that he stabbed me or vice versa, which we don't do. 3030 02:32:43,320 --> 02:32:46,760 Speaker 2: I gotta protect him, you know, That's what it has 3031 02:32:46,840 --> 02:32:50,560 Speaker 2: to be. And it's been a fun ride on the 3032 02:32:50,879 --> 02:32:51,800 Speaker 2: start of the business. 3033 02:32:52,680 --> 02:32:54,959 Speaker 4: Build it up to whatever it is, three fifty one 3034 02:32:55,000 --> 02:32:57,720 Speaker 4: hundred million, whatever it may be, with your best friends, and. 3035 02:32:57,840 --> 02:32:58,680 Speaker 2: Ride that ride. 3036 02:32:59,040 --> 02:32:59,600 Speaker 1: And who is on. 3037 02:33:04,360 --> 02:33:07,240 Speaker 2: Who also gonna do that? Who are like? 3038 02:33:07,560 --> 02:33:10,879 Speaker 6: We've been through You've lost the wife, he went through divorces, 3039 02:33:11,000 --> 02:33:16,080 Speaker 6: We've been through new bursts of children, parents dying, cancer, Like, 3040 02:33:16,560 --> 02:33:17,120 Speaker 6: who else am I? 3041 02:33:17,280 --> 02:33:19,160 Speaker 2: I've been on this planet in fifty five years. 3042 02:33:19,360 --> 02:33:21,880 Speaker 6: I may last ten, I may last fifteen more, I 3043 02:33:21,959 --> 02:33:24,360 Speaker 6: mean last twenty one, But who are or one hundred more? 3044 02:33:24,400 --> 02:33:26,760 Speaker 6: But who else am I going to start that relationship 3045 02:33:26,959 --> 02:33:29,840 Speaker 6: besides these guts who know every single aspect of my life? 3046 02:33:29,879 --> 02:33:30,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? 3047 02:33:31,120 --> 02:33:36,119 Speaker 5: The investment so let me ask you, did Shock Tank 3048 02:33:37,560 --> 02:33:40,480 Speaker 5: help the fool brand? Yeah? 3049 02:33:40,520 --> 02:33:41,440 Speaker 2: Of course, of. 3050 02:33:41,480 --> 02:33:46,120 Speaker 1: Course, you know it's another Yeah, we were gonna be 3051 02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:49,080 Speaker 1: the first one, the first reality showing BT. 3052 02:33:50,040 --> 02:33:50,920 Speaker 2: This guy won't do it. 3053 02:33:51,680 --> 02:33:53,000 Speaker 1: We ain't know why he want to do it. 3054 02:33:54,600 --> 02:33:55,520 Speaker 2: We know why he was. 3055 02:33:55,600 --> 02:33:59,280 Speaker 1: He was, you know, contemplating on his next move, but 3056 02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:03,000 Speaker 1: his next move with shock Tank. Understood why he didn't 3057 02:34:03,040 --> 02:34:04,360 Speaker 1: want to do it. You know what I'm saying. But 3058 02:34:04,879 --> 02:34:06,160 Speaker 1: by him doing that, But. 3059 02:34:06,240 --> 02:34:12,240 Speaker 2: Who was the reality show? Well? Remember that what's going on? 3060 02:34:13,440 --> 02:34:17,000 Speaker 2: It's revelations right now. Listen, we shot that liter Let 3061 02:34:17,000 --> 02:34:19,360 Speaker 2: me tell you. I'm listening. These niggas told you they 3062 02:34:19,440 --> 02:34:24,240 Speaker 2: was fried, right slipper tell me we shot that show 3063 02:34:24,280 --> 02:34:27,080 Speaker 2: with lions Gate. Nobody picked it up. No, I'm talking 3064 02:34:27,080 --> 02:34:31,960 Speaker 2: about the BT joint. What's out there? Huh? What are 3065 02:34:31,959 --> 02:34:36,320 Speaker 2: you talking? Moment? The BT ahead? See listen nor read. 3066 02:34:36,400 --> 02:34:37,080 Speaker 1: Let me get back to you. 3067 02:34:37,200 --> 02:34:37,680 Speaker 2: I'm listening. 3068 02:34:37,800 --> 02:34:41,560 Speaker 1: Anyway, go ahead, if we shot it or not, I 3069 02:34:41,600 --> 02:34:44,120 Speaker 1: didn't know all that shit happened, but I know that 3070 02:34:44,200 --> 02:34:45,039 Speaker 1: ship ain't go through. 3071 02:34:45,760 --> 02:34:46,840 Speaker 2: He went to shock Tank. 3072 02:34:47,280 --> 02:34:49,120 Speaker 1: He did his thing on Shock Tank, and I just 3073 02:34:49,520 --> 02:34:52,800 Speaker 1: opened the doors for everybody looking at football again. You 3074 02:34:52,840 --> 02:34:55,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because now once again we're on 3075 02:34:55,680 --> 02:34:59,240 Speaker 1: the national platform with the CEO of Fooble, which he's 3076 02:34:59,240 --> 02:35:01,560 Speaker 1: always gonna be. He's all remembered first, you know what 3077 02:35:01,600 --> 02:35:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then I think they talked about it 3078 02:35:03,680 --> 02:35:04,199 Speaker 1: in the opening. 3079 02:35:04,600 --> 02:35:06,360 Speaker 6: Wait, now you know what happened for Foobo and start 3080 02:35:06,360 --> 02:35:10,440 Speaker 6: of Tank America started to say, it's not just for 3081 02:35:10,640 --> 02:35:15,879 Speaker 6: a segment, it's not of ignorance. This guy who's on here, 3082 02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:20,360 Speaker 6: who they all must be the same. You know, he's 3083 02:35:20,400 --> 02:35:23,200 Speaker 6: not a dumb guy. They're not coming in the room. 3084 02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:24,959 Speaker 6: They all want to hold every one of us are 3085 02:35:25,040 --> 02:35:27,160 Speaker 6: held in a box. And they used to think when 3086 02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:28,840 Speaker 6: we came in the room, we were going to have 3087 02:35:29,120 --> 02:35:32,040 Speaker 6: gold teeth break dancing baggy Jean yo. 3088 02:35:32,200 --> 02:35:34,240 Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, no, this is business man. You 3089 02:35:34,280 --> 02:35:34,840 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 3090 02:35:35,000 --> 02:35:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we ain't do Oprah because she wanted 3091 02:35:38,520 --> 02:35:40,160 Speaker 1: us to stand on a car and do all kind 3092 02:35:40,160 --> 02:35:40,560 Speaker 1: of crazy. 3093 02:35:41,120 --> 02:35:44,240 Speaker 5: We turned out, Wait what that was the biggest So 3094 02:35:44,360 --> 02:35:46,840 Speaker 5: what happened with that? So here's here's what happened with Oprah. 3095 02:35:47,600 --> 02:35:49,920 Speaker 6: She wanted to come into our houses, and at that time, 3096 02:35:49,959 --> 02:35:51,440 Speaker 6: we didn't want to show our family she want us 3097 02:35:51,480 --> 02:35:54,840 Speaker 6: on cars and doing all that other ship and then say. 3098 02:35:54,720 --> 02:35:56,920 Speaker 2: We say on cars, I don't understand, you know, like. 3099 02:35:56,959 --> 02:36:00,440 Speaker 6: All that the producer, I'm not saying Oprah herself. And 3100 02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:02,560 Speaker 6: I remember there was a girl who was working at 3101 02:36:02,640 --> 02:36:04,720 Speaker 6: our company and she was either an intern or she 3102 02:36:04,840 --> 02:36:06,959 Speaker 6: was working there. And they said, by the way, that's 3103 02:36:07,040 --> 02:36:10,560 Speaker 6: Oprah's niece working in your company. And I was like, 3104 02:36:10,640 --> 02:36:13,200 Speaker 6: I don't work working at FOOBU. And this is when 3105 02:36:13,200 --> 02:36:15,600 Speaker 6: we had about three hundred employees. We would show up 3106 02:36:15,640 --> 02:36:17,640 Speaker 6: the red carpets and we would go into a movie 3107 02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:21,520 Speaker 6: theater at an event. She's sitting in the front rows. 3108 02:36:21,600 --> 02:36:24,040 Speaker 6: We sitting in the ninth row. We started going, I 3109 02:36:24,160 --> 02:36:29,879 Speaker 6: think maybe this girl worked for you know, she dded 3110 02:36:29,959 --> 02:36:32,160 Speaker 6: up coming lady to acting fly and I think one 3111 02:36:32,200 --> 02:36:33,960 Speaker 6: of us, I'm not sure who was fired up. We 3112 02:36:34,080 --> 02:36:36,640 Speaker 6: told the girl working for us, who Who's gonna fire? 3113 02:36:36,720 --> 02:36:38,560 Speaker 6: We said, it's okay to fire. I remember this big 3114 02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:44,520 Speaker 6: time publicers called us, you are going to fire Oprah's niece. 3115 02:36:44,760 --> 02:36:47,760 Speaker 2: Are you crazy? This is the most powerful woman in 3116 02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:48,199 Speaker 2: the world. 3117 02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:51,880 Speaker 6: And I remember one of us, or the woman Leslie 3118 02:36:51,920 --> 02:36:54,720 Speaker 6: work for us, said Oprah would want us to fire 3119 02:36:54,840 --> 02:36:59,040 Speaker 6: her ass and din Ald was a sudden We ain't 3120 02:36:59,040 --> 02:36:59,560 Speaker 6: get on Oprah? 3121 02:36:59,600 --> 02:37:07,840 Speaker 5: Are you producers behind the scenes who didn't let Oprah know? 3122 02:37:07,959 --> 02:37:10,040 Speaker 2: Whatever the case is? But how do we get to Oprah? 3123 02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:19,200 Speaker 2: So that was your doing? None of y'all smoke the drinker, y'all. Oh, 3124 02:37:19,360 --> 02:37:25,959 Speaker 2: be honest. That fool story is so and his was crazy. 3125 02:37:29,760 --> 02:37:33,240 Speaker 2: I think it's so. I thought it was a documentary, 3126 02:37:34,040 --> 02:37:35,240 Speaker 2: then I thought it was a movie. 3127 02:37:35,760 --> 02:37:44,760 Speaker 5: But now that I'm thinking about it, it's almost a 3128 02:37:45,000 --> 02:37:48,440 Speaker 5: wire meets power definitely, one of. 3129 02:37:49,280 --> 02:37:52,959 Speaker 2: Somewhere in that to this. Yeah, it's. 3130 02:37:54,440 --> 02:37:57,640 Speaker 5: I know, if I know, if you know about it's 3131 02:37:57,680 --> 02:37:58,199 Speaker 5: a problem. 3132 02:37:58,840 --> 02:38:02,280 Speaker 2: I think it's sex in the city meets wire. No 3133 02:38:02,600 --> 02:38:04,400 Speaker 2: theme on. Let me get you get that, let me 3134 02:38:05,520 --> 02:38:06,360 Speaker 2: let me take, let me. 3135 02:38:06,360 --> 02:38:09,320 Speaker 5: Take don't get get that baby, let me take this 3136 02:38:09,840 --> 02:38:17,440 Speaker 5: baby boy. It's the Wire maybe a little bit, it's. 3137 02:38:17,360 --> 02:38:23,359 Speaker 2: The Wire Entourage. That's that's It's the Wire meets entourage. 3138 02:38:25,480 --> 02:38:28,920 Speaker 4: This this is what great realized when not when me 3139 02:38:29,000 --> 02:38:32,720 Speaker 4: and Damon started the idea of Foboo, I had just 3140 02:38:32,879 --> 02:38:34,000 Speaker 4: came home from Rikers. 3141 02:38:34,840 --> 02:38:35,480 Speaker 5: It was in jail. 3142 02:38:35,640 --> 02:38:38,040 Speaker 2: It makes a noise. R know what I'm saying, And 3143 02:38:38,200 --> 02:38:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. 3144 02:38:39,280 --> 02:38:44,040 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that, not really, this is not really talk. 3145 02:38:44,160 --> 02:38:46,520 Speaker 4: This is not even celebrating that ship. 3146 02:38:46,920 --> 02:38:51,000 Speaker 2: Not long. I did less than six months, say seventy four. 3147 02:38:51,200 --> 02:38:54,600 Speaker 5: But that's that's that seventy four era. That's that that's 3148 02:38:54,640 --> 02:38:56,320 Speaker 5: the toughest ship ever. 3149 02:38:56,480 --> 02:38:59,600 Speaker 2: But the bottom line was I didn't want to go back. 3150 02:39:00,080 --> 02:39:02,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that six months, six years 3151 02:39:02,760 --> 02:39:04,920 Speaker 2: in today's time, I never want to go back. That's 3152 02:39:05,160 --> 02:39:07,720 Speaker 2: the bottom line. And now let's make some meeting. 3153 02:39:08,640 --> 02:39:09,320 Speaker 5: Want to go back. 3154 02:39:11,400 --> 02:39:13,840 Speaker 4: Me and Damon, I had my first child at the time, 3155 02:39:13,959 --> 02:39:16,680 Speaker 4: and meeting him at that moment. You know what I'm saying, 3156 02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:18,920 Speaker 4: was me either trying to figure out how to be 3157 02:39:18,959 --> 02:39:20,160 Speaker 4: a better criminal. 3158 02:39:20,440 --> 02:39:22,800 Speaker 6: Or you was just because because we kind of stopped 3159 02:39:23,440 --> 02:39:25,320 Speaker 6: hanging just because you know, he was moving to that 3160 02:39:25,480 --> 02:39:28,320 Speaker 6: side of the world, and so when you came. 3161 02:39:28,200 --> 02:39:31,920 Speaker 2: Home or whatever, I even really forgot about that. So 3162 02:39:32,080 --> 02:39:34,160 Speaker 2: it's a lot. It's a lot that, like I said, 3163 02:39:34,160 --> 02:39:37,560 Speaker 2: it's four different stories in one story. That's the reason 3164 02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:38,720 Speaker 2: he got me the story. 3165 02:39:39,760 --> 02:39:41,600 Speaker 6: You know, I think what you said at another time 3166 02:39:41,680 --> 02:39:43,440 Speaker 6: we were talked, and you said when you you didn't 3167 02:39:43,480 --> 02:39:46,120 Speaker 6: realize how your impact was and you never went outside 3168 02:39:46,160 --> 02:39:48,960 Speaker 6: your world. And when I was going on the toys 3169 02:39:48,959 --> 02:39:51,880 Speaker 6: as a roadie on the tour, I think Keith was 3170 02:39:52,120 --> 02:39:53,880 Speaker 6: also a street dude. I don't think he I don't 3171 02:39:53,920 --> 02:39:55,640 Speaker 6: know if he was doing I don't remember if he 3172 02:39:55,720 --> 02:39:57,320 Speaker 6: was doing any of that stuff. But I remember Keith 3173 02:39:57,360 --> 02:40:00,440 Speaker 6: saying to me he was on the road to nowhere, 3174 02:40:01,120 --> 02:40:03,840 Speaker 6: and when he went on that road with me and 3175 02:40:03,959 --> 02:40:07,040 Speaker 6: he saw that there was a bigger world where LL 3176 02:40:07,560 --> 02:40:11,160 Speaker 6: was doing what he loved and people were screaming and shouting, 3177 02:40:11,240 --> 02:40:12,880 Speaker 6: and he didn't have to look over his back. 3178 02:40:12,959 --> 02:40:13,520 Speaker 2: He said, I. 3179 02:40:13,520 --> 02:40:15,400 Speaker 6: Remember you said something like yo. That's when I said, 3180 02:40:15,440 --> 02:40:17,480 Speaker 6: y'are gonna leave that behind. I'm gonna leave anything behind 3181 02:40:17,879 --> 02:40:20,720 Speaker 6: and roll with you because there you can live. You 3182 02:40:20,800 --> 02:40:22,160 Speaker 6: can come out of the hood and do what you 3183 02:40:22,320 --> 02:40:23,920 Speaker 6: love and live and make money. 3184 02:40:24,320 --> 02:40:26,240 Speaker 2: I just had that I had the wrong friends. 3185 02:40:26,280 --> 02:40:28,480 Speaker 1: I had everybody that I was selling crack, getting them 3186 02:40:28,520 --> 02:40:32,280 Speaker 1: football numbers, going to jail, dying, and then I had 3187 02:40:32,360 --> 02:40:35,160 Speaker 1: these dudes where I was going on tour and doing 3188 02:40:35,240 --> 02:40:37,040 Speaker 1: different shit, going out of town. At fifteen. 3189 02:40:37,120 --> 02:40:38,960 Speaker 2: I was like, MA, can I go out of town? 3190 02:40:39,080 --> 02:40:40,360 Speaker 1: She was like, I ain't got no money else. 3191 02:40:40,400 --> 02:40:42,480 Speaker 2: It just got just need fifty dollars, let me get 3192 02:40:43,959 --> 02:40:47,320 Speaker 2: we gonna share rooms, onto a room. I'm good. 3193 02:40:47,879 --> 02:40:50,240 Speaker 1: But it was like doing things like that that opened 3194 02:40:50,280 --> 02:40:53,720 Speaker 1: my mind's side, like, wow, there are other things than 3195 02:40:53,959 --> 02:40:55,280 Speaker 1: what's going on in my hood. 3196 02:40:55,400 --> 02:40:58,240 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, and you know, So that's 3197 02:40:58,280 --> 02:41:00,360 Speaker 6: why I wanted people to listen to us that we're 3198 02:41:00,400 --> 02:41:02,840 Speaker 6: talking about. Who were listening to us? Now, Man, get 3199 02:41:02,879 --> 02:41:06,000 Speaker 6: with that little crew that that they're on to talking 3200 02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:08,360 Speaker 6: about money and see, I don't care how corny it 3201 02:41:08,480 --> 02:41:11,880 Speaker 6: sounds of you love what they're doing. Man, Don't don't 3202 02:41:11,920 --> 02:41:14,520 Speaker 6: go to those streets. Man, don't go to those streets. Man, 3203 02:41:14,560 --> 02:41:15,200 Speaker 6: there's so much. 3204 02:41:15,280 --> 02:41:18,600 Speaker 5: Man, we're we're we're a great product of our environment 3205 02:41:18,640 --> 02:41:21,600 Speaker 5: of people who got out because we just wanted to 3206 02:41:21,600 --> 02:41:22,880 Speaker 5: make sure to make people happy. 3207 02:41:22,920 --> 02:41:24,600 Speaker 2: You you wanted to make people happy. You want to 3208 02:41:24,640 --> 02:41:25,600 Speaker 2: make people happy. Man. 3209 02:41:26,120 --> 02:41:34,119 Speaker 5: So man, Man, yeah, this, I can't wait to hear this. Man, 3210 02:41:34,760 --> 02:41:38,920 Speaker 5: i'ma be honest because and I'm from Queens. So the 3211 02:41:39,000 --> 02:41:43,560 Speaker 5: reason why, like we didn't know about no nothing wrong 3212 02:41:44,000 --> 02:41:46,800 Speaker 5: or nothing you know, crazy with Foo Boom fool Boom 3213 02:41:47,280 --> 02:41:50,280 Speaker 5: came out. We were proud of it, proud of it 3214 02:41:50,440 --> 02:41:53,000 Speaker 5: to this day. So for y'all to have, like I 3215 02:41:53,120 --> 02:41:58,960 Speaker 5: love this that four different stories because shit, I'm tuned in. 3216 02:41:59,760 --> 02:42:02,520 Speaker 2: That's so so so. So what is next for foodle 3217 02:42:03,760 --> 02:42:08,040 Speaker 2: mhm expansion the real estate party. 3218 02:42:08,360 --> 02:42:13,120 Speaker 4: So there's this brand expansion, just identifying new partners as 3219 02:42:13,160 --> 02:42:16,680 Speaker 4: far as licensing agreements, growing out business here. We just 3220 02:42:16,760 --> 02:42:19,160 Speaker 4: started manufacturing on the Goods head of the States again 3221 02:42:19,959 --> 02:42:23,360 Speaker 4: and very local radio, Yes. 3222 02:42:25,120 --> 02:42:28,400 Speaker 2: Network, and we got Football Village coming. So it's just 3223 02:42:28,440 --> 02:42:32,600 Speaker 2: really brand expansion and you know, trying to make this 3224 02:42:32,959 --> 02:42:36,720 Speaker 2: situation where it's here long after we're gone. Did you 3225 02:42:36,800 --> 02:42:39,119 Speaker 2: say food village Gooble village. 3226 02:42:38,840 --> 02:42:47,119 Speaker 4: Like the real estates, Yeah, but is housing, manufacturing, sports, entertainment, 3227 02:42:47,600 --> 02:42:51,160 Speaker 4: and retail and we just we're looking at two hundred acres. 3228 02:42:51,320 --> 02:42:53,920 Speaker 2: I can't stay where but right outside at Lance. 3229 02:42:53,720 --> 02:42:58,480 Speaker 1: At this point, Yeah, that's the right place. And with me, 3230 02:42:58,640 --> 02:43:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm with Fool Radio. I'm build then, like I said earlier, 3231 02:43:02,080 --> 02:43:08,360 Speaker 1: when my partners down in actually Roswell, Georgia, eighteen stage 3232 02:43:09,120 --> 02:43:15,720 Speaker 1: creative space studio with one hundred five hundred car parking lot, 3233 02:43:16,360 --> 02:43:20,400 Speaker 1: three hundred seat theater, restaurants and you know it's going 3234 02:43:20,440 --> 02:43:22,080 Speaker 1: to be a creative spot down there. So I'm be 3235 02:43:22,120 --> 02:43:24,360 Speaker 1: doing a lot of things out there. Got an office 3236 02:43:24,440 --> 02:43:29,480 Speaker 1: in a station in uh North Carolina, Atlanta, and New 3237 02:43:29,560 --> 02:43:32,720 Speaker 1: York now Toms Square, So we're just trying to do it. 3238 02:43:32,760 --> 02:43:35,200 Speaker 1: And I'm also working on this is He's probably gonna 3239 02:43:35,240 --> 02:43:38,720 Speaker 1: love this, the Tommy Micking story. Trying to work develop 3240 02:43:38,800 --> 02:43:41,720 Speaker 1: and getting that done. So me and my man, me 3241 02:43:41,760 --> 02:43:44,240 Speaker 1: and Tim have been talking about that, so that's gonna 3242 02:43:44,240 --> 02:43:44,680 Speaker 1: be crazy. 3243 02:43:45,040 --> 02:43:45,800 Speaker 2: Makes a noise that. 3244 02:43:47,600 --> 02:43:52,520 Speaker 5: Everything connected though everything, Like you guys are all partners 3245 02:43:52,560 --> 02:43:53,720 Speaker 5: in each other's venture, so. 3246 02:43:55,520 --> 02:43:58,000 Speaker 2: Exactly what we've been talking like I will. 3247 02:43:57,959 --> 02:44:01,320 Speaker 4: Let's say it, Football Villas is my project, but I 3248 02:44:01,400 --> 02:44:04,080 Speaker 4: get permission a licensing deal from my partners, so I 3249 02:44:04,120 --> 02:44:05,039 Speaker 4: paid them a royalty. 3250 02:44:05,160 --> 02:44:07,600 Speaker 2: So you're licensing from your own entity. 3251 02:44:07,959 --> 02:44:10,120 Speaker 6: Just because he's a partner, he would get a license 3252 02:44:10,280 --> 02:44:14,520 Speaker 6: and have or seventy five percent off what anybody else 3253 02:44:14,680 --> 02:44:17,200 Speaker 6: is because you want your partner to be able to 3254 02:44:17,440 --> 02:44:19,920 Speaker 6: roll the business. And food was always four of us, 3255 02:44:19,959 --> 02:44:22,280 Speaker 6: so we could be at four different places, four different times, 3256 02:44:22,840 --> 02:44:25,119 Speaker 6: four different businesses and four different minds. 3257 02:44:25,280 --> 02:44:29,160 Speaker 5: Right, I think could open up drink Champs bowling, and 3258 02:44:29,240 --> 02:44:30,560 Speaker 5: I ain't gonna necessarily read. 3259 02:44:30,600 --> 02:44:32,600 Speaker 8: I could license it at a discount from my own man, 3260 02:44:32,640 --> 02:44:34,440 Speaker 8: you can say, let my own ip and you can say, 3261 02:44:35,040 --> 02:44:35,800 Speaker 8: here's our rules. 3262 02:44:35,840 --> 02:44:36,760 Speaker 2: Man, just don't do this. 3263 02:44:36,879 --> 02:44:39,400 Speaker 6: And you and because you're a partner, but absolutely I 3264 02:44:39,440 --> 02:44:41,800 Speaker 6: got you. But then go run it and then you don't. 3265 02:44:41,640 --> 02:44:45,840 Speaker 5: Bother me right now, now, questions from what you're licensing 3266 02:44:46,640 --> 02:44:50,400 Speaker 5: that excludes them as specific partners only from the licensed 3267 02:44:50,480 --> 02:44:50,920 Speaker 5: part of it. 3268 02:44:52,400 --> 02:44:53,279 Speaker 2: Well, it depends. 3269 02:44:53,400 --> 02:44:56,840 Speaker 4: If we decide to come in as a let's say 3270 02:44:56,879 --> 02:45:01,000 Speaker 4: a monetary investment, then that put shoo in a different position. 3271 02:45:01,480 --> 02:45:04,119 Speaker 4: But if they just a licensing partner, my partner's license 3272 02:45:04,160 --> 02:45:05,680 Speaker 4: it to me, they get a royal toy off of 3273 02:45:06,120 --> 02:45:10,279 Speaker 4: the overall sales revenue that generated from this particular property. 3274 02:45:10,680 --> 02:45:12,840 Speaker 6: So I don't want to make things too complicated. In 3275 02:45:12,920 --> 02:45:14,920 Speaker 6: the basic form of a license, when you think about 3276 02:45:14,920 --> 02:45:18,720 Speaker 6: it is if you sold one hundred dollars a million 3277 02:45:18,760 --> 02:45:21,440 Speaker 6: dollar worth of goods, a millioniles the worth of anything, 3278 02:45:21,959 --> 02:45:24,160 Speaker 6: if you had a twenty percent net, I mean that 3279 02:45:24,280 --> 02:45:27,440 Speaker 6: you pay everything, You pay for everything the twenty percent 3280 02:45:27,640 --> 02:45:34,080 Speaker 6: profit profit. But if a license is ten percent that 3281 02:45:34,240 --> 02:45:38,160 Speaker 6: you give to somebody, you do all the work, finance everything, 3282 02:45:38,320 --> 02:45:44,000 Speaker 6: advertised market and I don't do anything. You take ten percent. 3283 02:45:44,040 --> 02:45:47,080 Speaker 6: I take them and we're splitting it of the profit 3284 02:45:47,360 --> 02:45:49,120 Speaker 6: or of the profit of and I didn't have to 3285 02:45:49,200 --> 02:45:52,520 Speaker 6: do anything. So that's why licensing is so powerful. 3286 02:45:53,440 --> 02:45:56,400 Speaker 2: And it cast us. And we usually put in a 3287 02:45:56,440 --> 02:46:02,279 Speaker 2: place where there's a minimum, like a minimum guarantee, guarantee. 3288 02:46:01,840 --> 02:46:04,200 Speaker 6: You're supposed to do x amount of business over heres, 3289 02:46:04,240 --> 02:46:07,560 Speaker 6: and they can get complicated, but in my scales up, that's. 3290 02:46:07,440 --> 02:46:09,680 Speaker 2: What we're I usually see a license as a minimum. 3291 02:46:10,480 --> 02:46:11,320 Speaker 2: That's what we do normally. 3292 02:46:11,360 --> 02:46:13,160 Speaker 6: If you want people to have some skin in the 3293 02:46:13,240 --> 02:46:15,280 Speaker 6: game to get your name in the first place, and 3294 02:46:15,600 --> 02:46:16,920 Speaker 6: we want to and we don't want to go into 3295 02:46:16,959 --> 02:46:19,280 Speaker 6: too much data to get people computed. The licensing can 3296 02:46:19,360 --> 02:46:23,560 Speaker 6: be but it's really really simple. It's like renting or 3297 02:46:23,680 --> 02:46:27,000 Speaker 6: leasing your home to somebody. That's the same thing. 3298 02:46:27,320 --> 02:46:27,480 Speaker 3: Right. 3299 02:46:27,920 --> 02:46:30,080 Speaker 6: So in my my regards to what I would, you know, 3300 02:46:30,959 --> 02:46:32,680 Speaker 6: my job is, I will be uh, you know, we 3301 02:46:32,800 --> 02:46:38,280 Speaker 6: will be foolble forever. We've been fortunate enough to create 3302 02:46:38,360 --> 02:46:40,960 Speaker 6: something that was globally recognized, that came out of our basement. 3303 02:46:42,840 --> 02:46:45,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. 3304 02:46:48,360 --> 02:46:48,520 Speaker 1: You know. 3305 02:46:48,600 --> 02:46:51,000 Speaker 6: I think that I will start sooner or later a fund, 3306 02:46:51,840 --> 02:46:55,000 Speaker 6: a fooble fund where it will be you know, deploying 3307 02:46:55,080 --> 02:46:58,280 Speaker 6: money to businesses and or whatever with with with our 3308 02:46:58,400 --> 02:47:00,720 Speaker 6: our history. But my job still is to grow the 3309 02:47:00,760 --> 02:47:04,480 Speaker 6: brand and support my partners, use my because my job 3310 02:47:04,560 --> 02:47:07,720 Speaker 6: as a partner here is my public access, is to 3311 02:47:07,879 --> 02:47:11,400 Speaker 6: keep being hopefully the dignitary of our brand and to 3312 02:47:11,560 --> 02:47:15,520 Speaker 6: bring attention to our brand globally. Definitely, one day, well 3313 02:47:15,600 --> 02:47:18,160 Speaker 6: we'll do the whether it is the doc or the 3314 02:47:18,360 --> 02:47:23,320 Speaker 6: series or whatever the case is. Yeah, And I think 3315 02:47:23,360 --> 02:47:25,600 Speaker 6: that the job of us is that people have always 3316 02:47:25,600 --> 02:47:27,720 Speaker 6: shown the scissory. And I think if you hear a jumping, 3317 02:47:27,760 --> 02:47:30,960 Speaker 6: whether keeps talking about the fight, whether I'm talking about 3318 02:47:31,640 --> 02:47:35,760 Speaker 6: being an asshole to customers or whether calls talking about counterfeit. 3319 02:47:36,080 --> 02:47:39,879 Speaker 6: I never want we never want to sit back and say, look, 3320 02:47:39,920 --> 02:47:41,120 Speaker 6: how fly this shit is. 3321 02:47:41,200 --> 02:47:42,280 Speaker 2: We want you to cod it. 3322 02:47:42,560 --> 02:47:45,800 Speaker 6: This shit is hard, and when you're doing this, you've 3323 02:47:45,879 --> 02:47:48,640 Speaker 6: never I've never met an entrepreneur in my life who 3324 02:47:48,840 --> 02:47:52,680 Speaker 6: did something purely because they wanted to make money. I've 3325 02:47:52,720 --> 02:47:55,000 Speaker 6: only met entrepreneurs who want to solve a problem or 3326 02:47:55,040 --> 02:47:57,280 Speaker 6: bring somebody joy, and then the money came. The people 3327 02:47:57,280 --> 02:47:59,080 Speaker 6: who did it only because the money ended up in 3328 02:47:59,120 --> 02:48:01,040 Speaker 6: the wrong place, so they the money once they got it. 3329 02:48:01,800 --> 02:48:04,480 Speaker 6: And I think our job and our obligation as the 3330 02:48:04,560 --> 02:48:06,720 Speaker 6: people who created this brand, who never sold it for 3331 02:48:06,800 --> 02:48:10,240 Speaker 6: the for the right reasons, is that to extend this 3332 02:48:10,360 --> 02:48:14,720 Speaker 6: brand for people of coming from all all colors or 3333 02:48:14,760 --> 02:48:16,279 Speaker 6: whatever will come from nowhere to say. 3334 02:48:17,160 --> 02:48:18,800 Speaker 2: I mean them, them dumb cast did it? 3335 02:48:20,040 --> 02:48:22,000 Speaker 5: Like the only thing I did notable in school is 3336 02:48:22,120 --> 02:48:24,720 Speaker 5: I I like to say the seventh grade so much. 3337 02:48:24,760 --> 02:48:26,920 Speaker 2: I took it twice. That's it. 3338 02:48:27,160 --> 02:48:30,280 Speaker 6: And I'm dyslexic. Paul went to jail. Just I'm just 3339 02:48:30,360 --> 02:48:33,160 Speaker 6: remembering it. I'm just like you're just like, it's the 3340 02:48:33,200 --> 02:48:35,800 Speaker 6: bottom line. My my job is to be the statesman 3341 02:48:35,879 --> 02:48:38,520 Speaker 6: of food. Keep pushing it out there, keep building great 3342 02:48:38,560 --> 02:48:42,120 Speaker 6: brands and bringing great partners in. Maybe do do the 3343 02:48:42,200 --> 02:48:45,200 Speaker 6: movie or whatever, cases and and stuff, and just keeping 3344 02:48:46,080 --> 02:48:47,160 Speaker 6: it's my life, you know what I mean. 3345 02:48:47,320 --> 02:48:49,440 Speaker 2: It's not just a move. It's a series. It's an 3346 02:48:49,600 --> 02:48:51,440 Speaker 2: acted out series. 3347 02:48:51,640 --> 02:48:54,160 Speaker 5: It's a documentary with the actor. It's a whole series. 3348 02:48:54,520 --> 02:48:57,400 Speaker 5: It's locked it out. It's like, man, you gotta take 3349 02:48:57,440 --> 02:48:59,800 Speaker 5: your time. You see you've seen the Wu Tang clan ship. 3350 02:49:00,879 --> 02:49:06,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, Swete, And my newest agenda has been really honestly, 3351 02:49:06,560 --> 02:49:11,640 Speaker 6: all that is supporting emerging artists, especially as we're shooting 3352 02:49:11,640 --> 02:49:13,480 Speaker 6: in an area of at ours, because what I found 3353 02:49:13,640 --> 02:49:16,720 Speaker 6: unlike we had we came up, we had each other, 3354 02:49:16,840 --> 02:49:19,720 Speaker 6: we had clothing, sports athletes all that. I found that 3355 02:49:19,959 --> 02:49:22,520 Speaker 6: artists who creates, we all know a lot of creative people. 3356 02:49:22,800 --> 02:49:25,000 Speaker 6: There's a lot of addiction in this community, and that 3357 02:49:26,000 --> 02:49:30,120 Speaker 6: their their joy and their pain. They don't ever know 3358 02:49:30,160 --> 02:49:32,440 Speaker 6: if they're going to get into the NFL or create 3359 02:49:32,480 --> 02:49:36,760 Speaker 6: a fooble, but their joy and pain. We benefit from it, 3360 02:49:37,160 --> 02:49:40,040 Speaker 6: and there's a massive amount of addiction. So I'm starting 3361 02:49:40,040 --> 02:49:42,760 Speaker 6: to bring attention to fine artists and hopefully give them 3362 02:49:42,800 --> 02:49:46,160 Speaker 6: fooble licenses for free and various other things like that, 3363 02:49:46,600 --> 02:49:48,560 Speaker 6: because I think there's a lot of addiction of these 3364 02:49:48,640 --> 02:49:50,680 Speaker 6: people who have beautiful things that they have to share 3365 02:49:50,720 --> 02:49:53,240 Speaker 6: with us, and we don't realize that community has no support, 3366 02:49:53,640 --> 02:49:54,400 Speaker 6: so they have it. 3367 02:49:55,040 --> 02:49:59,600 Speaker 2: Let me ask you, would you do fooble cannabis? 3368 02:50:01,520 --> 02:50:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? I just don't smoke on TV. 3369 02:50:06,040 --> 02:50:07,520 Speaker 2: I respect that. I noticed that. 3370 02:50:08,320 --> 02:50:11,040 Speaker 1: I noticed that, but I miss smoking. Since miss smoking. 3371 02:50:13,680 --> 02:50:14,960 Speaker 1: I told me one day and say, yo, you was 3372 02:50:15,000 --> 02:50:18,640 Speaker 1: on the something back in the days, you know, you know, 3373 02:50:18,800 --> 02:50:21,560 Speaker 1: you were smoking weeds and he was teenagers, bro, But 3374 02:50:21,879 --> 02:50:23,320 Speaker 1: you know I keep it respectful. 3375 02:50:23,720 --> 02:50:28,920 Speaker 2: You know you're still smoke. So you slowed down a lot? 3376 02:50:29,040 --> 02:50:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I slow I slowed the lot down. 3377 02:50:30,959 --> 02:50:32,800 Speaker 1: You know when you start, you know, when I turn 3378 02:50:32,840 --> 02:50:36,760 Speaker 1: the senior citizen. You know what I'm saying, You don't 3379 02:50:36,800 --> 02:50:40,600 Speaker 1: count no one those you know. But it's it's like 3380 02:50:40,920 --> 02:50:45,280 Speaker 1: like I said, I don't. I slowed down a lot 3381 02:50:45,320 --> 02:50:47,320 Speaker 1: of a lot of things that I did. Like back 3382 02:50:47,360 --> 02:50:49,640 Speaker 1: in the days, I used to fall fall asleep in 3383 02:50:49,680 --> 02:50:51,280 Speaker 1: the club with these dudes. They used to take my 3384 02:50:51,400 --> 02:50:54,840 Speaker 1: chain off. Wake up, I'm wilding out and like your 3385 02:50:54,959 --> 02:50:58,000 Speaker 1: chill here your chain like you falling asleep like a 3386 02:50:58,160 --> 02:51:00,920 Speaker 1: stupid ship, like you know, like he was. He was 3387 02:51:00,959 --> 02:51:05,040 Speaker 1: an angry week for attic. You know, I've never heard 3388 02:51:05,320 --> 02:51:08,160 Speaker 1: angry me either, because it was mixed way to hit 3389 02:51:08,560 --> 02:51:14,560 Speaker 1: that back then, Say that. 3390 02:51:14,640 --> 02:51:17,000 Speaker 6: Time the club, that time the club, Remember the time, 3391 02:51:17,160 --> 02:51:19,240 Speaker 6: that time, that time in your life. Remember that time 3392 02:51:19,280 --> 02:51:21,760 Speaker 6: when you time the club? What you tell kid, I 3393 02:51:21,760 --> 02:51:26,240 Speaker 6: ain't fifty the club. You know he started peeing on 3394 02:51:26,400 --> 02:51:35,959 Speaker 6: people in the club. I'm coming, he said. 3395 02:51:36,000 --> 02:51:40,800 Speaker 2: I say, saw being told. I'm talking about there some 3396 02:51:40,920 --> 02:51:44,360 Speaker 2: women sitting the he said. The ball and he pe. 3397 02:51:45,240 --> 02:51:49,040 Speaker 5: Great pete on their legs. He when he mixed his 3398 02:51:49,120 --> 02:52:02,120 Speaker 5: weed with Henderson before close the Palladium. You don't see 3399 02:52:02,720 --> 02:52:03,880 Speaker 5: the week before that, you man. 3400 02:52:05,959 --> 02:52:08,760 Speaker 1: He the boy hit the floor and then it sprinkled 3401 02:52:08,800 --> 02:52:09,440 Speaker 1: on these toes. 3402 02:52:09,480 --> 02:52:23,960 Speaker 13: And listen, man, yo, okay, I wasn't gonna make I 3403 02:52:24,120 --> 02:52:26,720 Speaker 13: began with my pistol on myself and you have to 3404 02:52:26,800 --> 02:52:27,360 Speaker 13: go now. 3405 02:52:29,240 --> 02:52:31,360 Speaker 5: Now before that big dude loosening up in the blad 3406 02:52:31,480 --> 02:52:32,400 Speaker 5: on twenty eighth Street. 3407 02:52:34,560 --> 02:52:37,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I wasn't ready for man. Well we 3408 02:52:37,680 --> 02:52:38,840 Speaker 2: need to make it. 3409 02:52:38,920 --> 02:52:42,400 Speaker 5: We can go ahead for yo, man, Yeah, thirty five 3410 02:52:42,560 --> 02:52:46,720 Speaker 5: years I'm not he let me say that one. 3411 02:52:46,760 --> 02:52:47,080 Speaker 1: I told you. 3412 02:52:47,120 --> 02:52:50,800 Speaker 5: See, he gave me permission. That's a crazy you're gonna 3413 02:52:50,800 --> 02:52:52,320 Speaker 5: say that. I knew he's gonna say the pistol one. 3414 02:52:52,360 --> 02:52:54,320 Speaker 5: I know that Pep's in the club. So you know 3415 02:52:54,400 --> 02:52:56,880 Speaker 5: how boys, boys listen, I need to hear it. No, 3416 02:52:57,000 --> 02:52:59,880 Speaker 5: his boys, listen. These are the hard conversation we have. 3417 02:53:00,040 --> 02:53:03,640 Speaker 5: I said, listen, Keith Man, I got your back. I'll 3418 02:53:03,680 --> 02:53:04,959 Speaker 5: die for you straight up. 3419 02:53:05,240 --> 02:53:09,039 Speaker 6: Like if we're out of the club and something's going 3420 02:53:09,120 --> 02:53:12,160 Speaker 6: to happen, and I know that you know, like your 3421 02:53:12,720 --> 02:53:14,680 Speaker 6: you know whatever I gotta do. Man, you're my brother. 3422 02:53:14,720 --> 02:53:15,240 Speaker 2: I was out of here. 3423 02:53:15,360 --> 02:53:18,480 Speaker 6: But once he started all joking aside, he went through 3424 02:53:18,520 --> 02:53:20,520 Speaker 6: this phase of doing that and we realized that it 3425 02:53:20,640 --> 02:53:22,720 Speaker 6: was you were mixing tequilo. 3426 02:53:23,200 --> 02:53:25,160 Speaker 2: It was something was happening with he went through the 3427 02:53:25,200 --> 02:53:30,360 Speaker 2: face my beating. 3428 02:53:32,879 --> 02:53:33,480 Speaker 1: I had that. 3429 02:53:33,800 --> 02:53:36,120 Speaker 2: You know, sugar run in my family. I don't know that. 3430 02:53:37,600 --> 02:53:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, when you're diabetic and you drink liquor, 3431 02:53:41,200 --> 02:53:43,480 Speaker 1: it just come out like when it come out. It's 3432 02:53:43,520 --> 02:53:45,040 Speaker 1: coming out. It's not like hold it. 3433 02:53:46,240 --> 02:53:46,720 Speaker 2: I didn't know what. 3434 02:53:47,840 --> 02:53:49,760 Speaker 1: I didn't even know. I thought I was, you know, 3435 02:53:49,840 --> 02:53:51,400 Speaker 1: too drunk to get to the bathroom, you know what 3436 02:53:51,400 --> 02:53:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 3437 02:53:51,879 --> 02:53:54,080 Speaker 2: And we were, and so we were, we were running around, right. 3438 02:53:54,360 --> 02:53:57,240 Speaker 6: So if you're my man, and I love you like 3439 02:53:57,400 --> 02:53:58,920 Speaker 6: and I'm willing to die for you, and I'm not 3440 02:53:58,959 --> 02:54:01,040 Speaker 6: a gangster at all, but if I know that I 3441 02:54:01,080 --> 02:54:02,640 Speaker 6: got to jumping in from a movie, this cat what 3442 02:54:02,720 --> 02:54:04,840 Speaker 6: O the case. But at a point where after a 3443 02:54:04,879 --> 02:54:08,960 Speaker 6: while it was happening too much. I can't justify you. 3444 02:54:09,320 --> 02:54:11,160 Speaker 6: I was like, yo, Keith, here's two things we're gonna do. 3445 02:54:11,600 --> 02:54:14,000 Speaker 6: I'm either not going I'm not going to go out 3446 02:54:14,040 --> 02:54:16,160 Speaker 6: with you, man, I can't go out any more. Or 3447 02:54:18,280 --> 02:54:21,360 Speaker 6: if you keep doing that, I ain't got your back. 3448 02:54:21,400 --> 02:54:22,120 Speaker 6: I'm walking on you. 3449 02:54:23,240 --> 02:54:25,360 Speaker 5: We had to have a heart. That's a hard conversation 3450 02:54:26,080 --> 02:54:34,840 Speaker 5: created the depends about six. 3451 02:54:38,959 --> 02:54:49,320 Speaker 2: You tell one story story man repete on somebody and 3452 02:54:49,400 --> 02:54:52,240 Speaker 2: the man was about to whip my ass. This dude's wrong. 3453 02:54:53,200 --> 02:54:54,080 Speaker 2: You pet on the man? 3454 02:54:54,240 --> 02:54:58,320 Speaker 5: Girl, I don't care. She had painless shoes on. You 3455 02:54:58,440 --> 02:55:04,280 Speaker 5: still discribed it pee on everybody, bro. So it was 3456 02:55:04,280 --> 02:55:06,600 Speaker 5: a wild nice man. We have some wild nay, haven't 3457 02:55:06,640 --> 02:55:08,480 Speaker 5: bro it happened you know, don't have. 3458 02:55:08,680 --> 02:55:11,240 Speaker 2: No, No, don't know. Don't you have peen on somebody 3459 02:55:11,320 --> 02:55:16,080 Speaker 2: in the street. No, no, but sudden. 3460 02:55:18,360 --> 02:55:24,240 Speaker 5: But you never said you'll turn that ship up. But 3461 02:55:24,800 --> 02:55:28,200 Speaker 5: should happened in life. No, he ain't shipped on him yet. 3462 02:55:28,320 --> 02:55:29,280 Speaker 5: That's what I was waiting for. 3463 02:55:30,120 --> 02:55:30,760 Speaker 2: I'll wait for. 3464 02:55:32,800 --> 02:55:36,040 Speaker 6: What for you? 3465 02:55:36,240 --> 02:55:39,040 Speaker 2: They literally throwing chairs. I wanted to foot and peeing 3466 02:55:39,080 --> 02:55:40,440 Speaker 2: on something that's going off. 3467 02:55:40,480 --> 02:55:41,039 Speaker 1: The hunk. 3468 02:55:42,360 --> 02:55:49,280 Speaker 2: Luckily has the social media. We don't make cancer a boy. 3469 02:55:49,320 --> 02:55:51,800 Speaker 2: Make sure to depict that in the film. They all 3470 02:55:51,879 --> 02:55:54,160 Speaker 2: we got you got you a long stream and that 3471 02:55:54,280 --> 02:55:58,480 Speaker 2: motherfuckers they had social media. We'll be here right now? Yoh, 3472 02:55:58,520 --> 02:55:59,680 Speaker 2: what do you want? You want me to go get that? 3473 02:56:00,040 --> 02:56:01,880 Speaker 2: You want that other stock room? Could we wouldn't be 3474 02:56:01,920 --> 02:56:02,440 Speaker 2: here no more. 3475 02:56:03,040 --> 02:56:08,400 Speaker 5: So it's something that I kept hearing repeated through this conversation. Said, 3476 02:56:08,400 --> 02:56:13,080 Speaker 5: at one point you was doing three hundred and fifty million. 3477 02:56:14,400 --> 02:56:15,440 Speaker 2: Did I hear that? 3478 02:56:15,560 --> 02:56:15,920 Speaker 1: Correct? 3479 02:56:16,200 --> 02:56:19,680 Speaker 2: Worth like doing three three hundred and fifty million? You 3480 02:56:20,080 --> 02:56:27,920 Speaker 2: can't help hold on a minute, because how was y'all acting? 3481 02:56:28,080 --> 02:56:28,240 Speaker 5: Then? 3482 02:56:30,040 --> 02:56:32,560 Speaker 2: I know, listen, I'm gonna be honest with you. I 3483 02:56:32,600 --> 02:56:33,800 Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. 3484 02:56:34,320 --> 02:56:36,959 Speaker 5: If they say you just worth three hundred and fifty million, 3485 02:56:37,520 --> 02:56:38,280 Speaker 5: I already got. 3486 02:56:38,280 --> 02:56:41,680 Speaker 2: Fifty million before you answer to that. Inflation? What is 3487 02:56:41,760 --> 02:56:44,560 Speaker 2: that today? Yeah, that's yeah, that's the question. Inflation. So 3488 02:56:50,280 --> 02:56:53,039 Speaker 2: acting in clothing. 3489 02:56:53,240 --> 02:56:57,680 Speaker 6: Technically it's a good it's a great number. But Nike 3490 02:56:57,840 --> 02:57:00,680 Speaker 6: does thirty billion a year and a lot of But but. 3491 02:57:01,120 --> 02:57:07,680 Speaker 2: Coming from were I letna stop staying saying. 3492 02:57:09,400 --> 02:57:12,000 Speaker 6: But we was only it was almost homeless. So we 3493 02:57:12,160 --> 02:57:15,680 Speaker 6: all moved into my house and and slept, you know, 3494 02:57:16,000 --> 02:57:18,360 Speaker 6: like we worked during the day. I worked at Red 3495 02:57:18,400 --> 02:57:20,520 Speaker 6: Loft and then we were so enclosed and having people 3496 02:57:20,560 --> 02:57:25,200 Speaker 6: so close. I worked in Baldwin and I worked at 3497 02:57:25,560 --> 02:57:29,680 Speaker 6: I worked at Sunrise, and he worked uptown Manhattan as 3498 02:57:29,680 --> 02:57:30,400 Speaker 6: a building manager. 3499 02:57:30,440 --> 02:57:32,840 Speaker 2: And you worked in a factory. Right job Yeah, so 3500 02:57:36,680 --> 02:57:38,320 Speaker 2: job bro job. 3501 02:57:40,080 --> 02:57:51,039 Speaker 5: The job. 3502 02:57:53,000 --> 02:57:54,720 Speaker 2: You had a fantasy boy, You were in a clean, 3503 02:57:54,800 --> 02:58:00,680 Speaker 2: good job. Man. I remember I said, job Okay, it 3504 02:58:00,840 --> 02:58:05,080 Speaker 2: was nothing behind that story. It wasn't steady. 3505 02:58:07,000 --> 02:58:10,520 Speaker 6: So almost a sudden, were almost homeless. We get our deal, 3506 02:58:10,680 --> 02:58:13,600 Speaker 6: were supposed to the manufacturing deal. Was supposed to be 3507 02:58:13,640 --> 02:58:16,680 Speaker 6: supposed to do five million dollar worth of sales in 3508 02:58:16,879 --> 02:58:22,000 Speaker 6: three years to keep our basically our manufacturing deal. We 3509 02:58:22,200 --> 02:58:25,480 Speaker 6: do thirty million dollar worth of sales in like three months. Wow, 3510 02:58:26,400 --> 02:58:31,440 Speaker 6: what takes all? Immediately we start moving and doing stuff. 3511 02:58:31,520 --> 02:58:34,960 Speaker 6: So I think at twenty nine we was almost I 3512 02:58:35,080 --> 02:58:37,920 Speaker 6: was almost homeless. That means you would have been almost homeless, 3513 02:58:37,959 --> 02:58:40,240 Speaker 6: but you were renting the basement from me right and 3514 02:58:40,720 --> 02:58:43,840 Speaker 6: then paying whatever he could, and and he had a job, 3515 02:58:43,879 --> 02:58:44,199 Speaker 6: and then. 3516 02:58:44,120 --> 02:58:47,480 Speaker 2: We all quit. It just takes off. I remember. 3517 02:58:47,560 --> 02:58:49,160 Speaker 6: I remember I came out here in Miami the first time. 3518 02:58:49,200 --> 02:58:51,640 Speaker 6: I remember standing at Jack the Rapper, and I remember 3519 02:58:51,680 --> 02:58:54,320 Speaker 6: looking at some pink tall building what is now the 3520 02:58:54,360 --> 02:58:54,840 Speaker 6: Port of Field. 3521 02:58:54,879 --> 02:58:56,120 Speaker 2: I was like, man, one day, was it? 3522 02:58:56,320 --> 02:58:58,640 Speaker 6: How can I be done? Nutjacks rap. I was on 3523 02:58:58,760 --> 02:59:00,800 Speaker 6: the beach going, man, look at that pink building. It 3524 02:59:00,840 --> 02:59:02,760 Speaker 6: was like ninety seven ninety eight, and that pink billing 3525 02:59:02,879 --> 02:59:04,440 Speaker 6: just got bill. I said, man, one day, I'm gonna 3526 02:59:04,440 --> 02:59:06,480 Speaker 6: get thirty thousand dollars in a foridn apartment. 3527 02:59:07,680 --> 02:59:08,160 Speaker 2: I remember. 3528 02:59:08,240 --> 02:59:11,640 Speaker 6: The next year I bought the second building and there 3529 02:59:11,680 --> 02:59:14,400 Speaker 6: for three second apartment there for three million dollars. But 3530 02:59:14,520 --> 02:59:16,280 Speaker 6: I found out I didn't know any better. I didn't 3531 02:59:16,280 --> 02:59:19,280 Speaker 6: know about what they call marinas. I had Jessky, so 3532 02:59:19,320 --> 02:59:21,240 Speaker 6: I wanted to buy a Jesski. I want to put 3533 02:59:21,240 --> 02:59:24,360 Speaker 6: a jesse someplace. So I go down to Venetian Causeway 3534 02:59:24,440 --> 02:59:27,240 Speaker 6: and I buy another house of five million dollars. 3535 02:59:27,000 --> 02:59:27,880 Speaker 2: There just to put a Jesse. 3536 02:59:28,560 --> 02:59:28,720 Speaker 12: Man. 3537 02:59:30,360 --> 02:59:32,520 Speaker 2: I remember, we bought each other. We bought each other 3538 02:59:32,640 --> 02:59:39,040 Speaker 2: cart cars, all kind of I mean, we were just 3539 02:59:39,120 --> 02:59:42,760 Speaker 2: spending money. Like but we got my first bens. 3540 02:59:44,400 --> 02:59:45,320 Speaker 1: You had to corvette. 3541 02:59:45,480 --> 02:59:47,240 Speaker 2: You had the boat. We brought you the boat. We 3542 02:59:47,320 --> 02:59:49,720 Speaker 2: bought Jada Bidley and these are these are Christmas gifts 3543 02:59:49,720 --> 02:59:52,520 Speaker 2: and birthdays. So well, yeah, it was pretty good. 3544 02:59:52,560 --> 02:59:52,720 Speaker 5: You know. 3545 02:59:54,160 --> 03:00:00,879 Speaker 2: Damn, my friends ain't shit. How young were you guys? 3546 03:00:00,879 --> 03:00:04,000 Speaker 2: How old were you guys? A twenty nine thirty. That's 3547 03:00:04,040 --> 03:00:04,840 Speaker 2: the thing when. 3548 03:00:04,720 --> 03:00:06,880 Speaker 8: We have a lot of these conversations, especially at Dream Chance, 3549 03:00:07,000 --> 03:00:08,840 Speaker 8: we're talking about things that happened in the past. 3550 03:00:09,760 --> 03:00:13,360 Speaker 5: We were all older. Now these are young people that 3551 03:00:13,440 --> 03:00:17,400 Speaker 5: we're talking about, young mentalities, young men, young women that 3552 03:00:17,520 --> 03:00:19,360 Speaker 5: were doing things, and we got to put that in 3553 03:00:19,440 --> 03:00:20,039 Speaker 5: that perspective. 3554 03:00:20,040 --> 03:00:20,760 Speaker 2: We were told that. 3555 03:00:20,800 --> 03:00:24,840 Speaker 6: We're not supposed to live past twenty one. That's what 3556 03:00:25,080 --> 03:00:27,440 Speaker 6: everybody told us, even the people that we paid to 3557 03:00:27,520 --> 03:00:30,360 Speaker 6: protect us told us that that we're going to be 3558 03:00:30,480 --> 03:00:31,959 Speaker 6: dead or in jail by twenty one. 3559 03:00:32,200 --> 03:00:34,959 Speaker 1: My mom to tell me that should every day, tell 3560 03:00:35,000 --> 03:00:38,720 Speaker 1: me that shit all the time until I almost die seventeen. 3561 03:00:39,160 --> 03:00:39,879 Speaker 2: What did you say? 3562 03:00:40,240 --> 03:00:41,600 Speaker 1: She's to be like, you're gonna be dead and you're 3563 03:00:41,600 --> 03:00:43,440 Speaker 1: gonna be dead in jail by telling you twenty one. 3564 03:00:43,680 --> 03:00:45,920 Speaker 1: And I'd be like, yo, you my mom, Like how you. 3565 03:00:46,000 --> 03:00:48,160 Speaker 2: Saying it to me? Because way because you were acting out. 3566 03:00:48,200 --> 03:00:51,160 Speaker 2: She's like the way you move in, what people you 3567 03:00:51,280 --> 03:00:55,920 Speaker 2: hang in and carry you straight scared skin, just straight 3568 03:00:55,959 --> 03:00:59,760 Speaker 2: shoot us. I mean all of my mothers are actually 3569 03:01:00,120 --> 03:01:04,000 Speaker 2: the truth. Yoh, y'all fucked me up. 3570 03:01:04,320 --> 03:01:05,920 Speaker 1: But one of the best days though, like when we 3571 03:01:06,080 --> 03:01:07,880 Speaker 1: made it made it. I think one of the best 3572 03:01:08,000 --> 03:01:11,640 Speaker 1: days for us was seeing our product of Macy's windows like. 3573 03:01:11,760 --> 03:01:16,440 Speaker 1: We literally went to Macy's windows windows Like y'all literally 3574 03:01:16,520 --> 03:01:18,480 Speaker 1: got forty ounces and went and stood in front of 3575 03:01:18,560 --> 03:01:19,800 Speaker 1: Macy's talking about that. 3576 03:01:20,160 --> 03:01:24,160 Speaker 2: That's that's selling gangs to Hold on Home, hold on home, 3577 03:01:24,320 --> 03:01:28,080 Speaker 2: because I know is it Macy's on thirty four thirty 3578 03:01:28,120 --> 03:01:30,320 Speaker 2: four Street? Okay, hold on, let me take it. 3579 03:01:30,400 --> 03:01:32,879 Speaker 5: Let me take it, because I'm there. I'm there, even 3580 03:01:32,879 --> 03:01:36,600 Speaker 5: though I wasn't there, I'm there. Y'all knew it was 3581 03:01:36,680 --> 03:01:38,320 Speaker 5: going to be on thirty fourth Street. 3582 03:01:38,760 --> 03:01:41,400 Speaker 6: You can remember I said this. We had to pay 3583 03:01:41,560 --> 03:01:43,640 Speaker 6: after a while, you know what I mean. All that stuff, 3584 03:01:43,680 --> 03:01:46,959 Speaker 6: But what really happened is we grew up. We grew 3585 03:01:47,040 --> 03:01:50,360 Speaker 6: up in Hollis Queen's Halls. Queen's is right next to JFK. 3586 03:01:51,840 --> 03:01:55,320 Speaker 6: Our parents used to tell us. They used to say, well, 3587 03:01:55,480 --> 03:01:57,960 Speaker 6: there was a plane that shut the whole community when 3588 03:01:57,959 --> 03:02:00,280 Speaker 6: a land called the concord in the land of time. 3589 03:02:01,120 --> 03:02:03,400 Speaker 6: And our parents used to say, either you need to 3590 03:02:03,440 --> 03:02:05,200 Speaker 6: be because when when you heard the rumbling of the 3591 03:02:05,280 --> 03:02:08,440 Speaker 6: jail of the concord landing the whole neighborhood ship. I 3592 03:02:08,480 --> 03:02:11,720 Speaker 6: remember my mother used to say, or during the during 3593 03:02:11,800 --> 03:02:14,640 Speaker 6: the summer, the lights on the Empire Stable, and my 3594 03:02:14,720 --> 03:02:16,520 Speaker 6: mother used to say, you better be the fastes than 3595 03:02:16,600 --> 03:02:20,160 Speaker 6: the concord or quicker than the lights of the Empire Stable, 3596 03:02:20,200 --> 03:02:22,040 Speaker 6: because that means it got dark concord and at a 3597 03:02:22,080 --> 03:02:26,879 Speaker 6: certain time and whatever the imp So that's what happened. 3598 03:02:27,480 --> 03:02:28,360 Speaker 2: We finally made it. 3599 03:02:28,560 --> 03:02:31,000 Speaker 6: We had our first office of forty eighth floor of 3600 03:02:31,160 --> 03:02:34,280 Speaker 6: the Empire State Building. This is a building that was 3601 03:02:34,360 --> 03:02:36,880 Speaker 6: thirty miles away, that took us thirty years to get to, 3602 03:02:37,440 --> 03:02:39,120 Speaker 6: and now we have the ford. We would end up 3603 03:02:39,160 --> 03:02:43,200 Speaker 6: owning the sixty fifth, sixty sixty three floors of the 3604 03:02:43,240 --> 03:02:45,600 Speaker 6: Empire State Building. But the first time, and I remember 3605 03:02:45,640 --> 03:02:48,240 Speaker 6: at that time the Empire State Building windows can open 3606 03:02:48,320 --> 03:02:50,400 Speaker 6: as high as from here to did I remember the 3607 03:02:50,480 --> 03:02:53,600 Speaker 6: first time we made it, we to the outside outside 3608 03:02:53,600 --> 03:02:55,760 Speaker 6: actually window, and that's why people used to jump out 3609 03:02:55,800 --> 03:02:58,280 Speaker 6: of some of the last by the way we got 3610 03:02:58,320 --> 03:03:01,480 Speaker 6: avoided off. I remember sitting out sitting there at the 3611 03:03:01,560 --> 03:03:03,920 Speaker 6: forty four and me had the call and Keith we 3612 03:03:03,959 --> 03:03:06,920 Speaker 6: were looking outside of there at the entire city. 3613 03:03:07,480 --> 03:03:08,640 Speaker 2: We finally made it. 3614 03:03:09,000 --> 03:03:11,560 Speaker 6: The next day we take I just got a brand 3615 03:03:11,600 --> 03:03:14,760 Speaker 6: new Lexus, and I had the thousand CD player in 3616 03:03:14,840 --> 03:03:16,400 Speaker 6: the back, the. 3617 03:03:16,600 --> 03:03:17,200 Speaker 2: Thousand of them. 3618 03:03:17,240 --> 03:03:19,560 Speaker 6: It took me a week to open all those damn 3619 03:03:19,680 --> 03:03:22,800 Speaker 6: CDs to put them in there, and we sat outside 3620 03:03:22,840 --> 03:03:26,400 Speaker 6: of Macy's with the coldest forties from Popula Compy kids. 3621 03:03:26,720 --> 03:03:30,160 Speaker 6: We opened up that trunk and I made sure every 3622 03:03:30,320 --> 03:03:35,760 Speaker 6: girl seeing that I had every CD they're playing, and 3623 03:03:35,879 --> 03:03:38,120 Speaker 6: we rolled down the window then listen and blast of 3624 03:03:38,200 --> 03:03:41,000 Speaker 6: that music as much as we could right in front 3625 03:03:41,040 --> 03:03:43,280 Speaker 6: of those Macy's windows. We would later on be the 3626 03:03:43,360 --> 03:03:46,720 Speaker 6: first people that ever physically sit in the windows of 3627 03:03:46,840 --> 03:03:48,720 Speaker 6: Macy's for eight hours while. 3628 03:03:49,720 --> 03:03:53,960 Speaker 5: During the promotion, you guys physically sat there. And then 3629 03:03:54,040 --> 03:03:55,879 Speaker 5: next week I remember driving that car home. 3630 03:03:57,320 --> 03:04:01,720 Speaker 6: And somebody car jack me. I was all right do 3631 03:04:02,000 --> 03:04:04,320 Speaker 6: to my friends, Our friends who used to rob people. 3632 03:04:04,440 --> 03:04:06,240 Speaker 6: Caught me on Long Island and they dragged me. 3633 03:04:06,480 --> 03:04:07,880 Speaker 2: They got you. They caught me. 3634 03:04:08,000 --> 03:04:10,119 Speaker 6: They saw me, and they saw me driving that Lexus. 3635 03:04:10,200 --> 03:04:12,080 Speaker 6: They dragged me to the back. I had tried to 3636 03:04:12,160 --> 03:04:13,760 Speaker 6: move as fast as I put out of the neighborhood. 3637 03:04:14,000 --> 03:04:16,720 Speaker 6: They dragged me to the back and they put the 3638 03:04:16,800 --> 03:04:18,640 Speaker 6: gun to my head and I thought I was gonna die, 3639 03:04:18,720 --> 03:04:20,520 Speaker 6: and they took that trigger and they was about to 3640 03:04:20,560 --> 03:04:23,039 Speaker 6: pull it and they just took the car and ran away. 3641 03:04:23,080 --> 03:04:25,160 Speaker 6: But what they found out is that we had made it. 3642 03:04:25,160 --> 03:04:27,080 Speaker 6: And they said, Damon can get another car, don't worry 3643 03:04:27,080 --> 03:04:29,160 Speaker 6: about it. And so they followed me and they and 3644 03:04:29,320 --> 03:04:32,400 Speaker 6: that and that was and that's that, and that's that story. 3645 03:04:34,680 --> 03:04:36,600 Speaker 6: A lot of a lot of things happened going on. 3646 03:04:36,840 --> 03:04:42,560 Speaker 6: So those guys believed in you. Then I think that's 3647 03:04:42,560 --> 03:04:44,360 Speaker 6: the side. I don't want anybody else to. 3648 03:04:44,360 --> 03:04:47,760 Speaker 2: Believe in me again. But let me ask you, how 3649 03:04:47,840 --> 03:04:50,160 Speaker 2: did that feel? Being a kid from Queens. 3650 03:04:50,200 --> 03:04:53,640 Speaker 5: It happened because because that Macy's on thirty fourth Street, 3651 03:04:53,840 --> 03:04:54,840 Speaker 5: that's home alone. 3652 03:04:55,000 --> 03:04:59,440 Speaker 2: You know that it's everything to us. It is a 3653 03:04:59,520 --> 03:05:00,960 Speaker 2: kid from the see because I know a lot of 3654 03:05:00,959 --> 03:05:01,760 Speaker 2: people are gonna. 3655 03:05:01,520 --> 03:05:03,600 Speaker 5: Watch this man, and they're not gonna they're not gonna 3656 03:05:03,680 --> 03:05:04,200 Speaker 5: understand that. 3657 03:05:04,280 --> 03:05:05,120 Speaker 2: But I understand that. 3658 03:05:05,240 --> 03:05:07,480 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna I'm gonna be reading you right now 3659 03:05:07,560 --> 03:05:09,640 Speaker 5: and I'm saying, how did Jack, how did that moment 3660 03:05:09,680 --> 03:05:10,200 Speaker 5: feel for you? 3661 03:05:11,959 --> 03:05:15,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, man, that was a big day for us, but 3662 03:05:16,520 --> 03:05:18,200 Speaker 2: that wasn't That wasn't my big day. 3663 03:05:18,680 --> 03:05:20,800 Speaker 4: But because God mean, when we started the company, I 3664 03:05:20,840 --> 03:05:24,000 Speaker 4: had a child, I was married and had a child 3665 03:05:24,160 --> 03:05:26,680 Speaker 4: at a young age. So my whole goal is to 3666 03:05:26,720 --> 03:05:29,880 Speaker 4: buy a home for my kids, my life. And what 3667 03:05:30,120 --> 03:05:33,760 Speaker 4: happened around at same time Macy's all that stuff. Damon's like, okay, 3668 03:05:33,840 --> 03:05:34,879 Speaker 4: let's go find a house. 3669 03:05:35,560 --> 03:05:37,360 Speaker 2: So we went to a house that's on Walction out 3670 03:05:37,360 --> 03:05:40,680 Speaker 2: there in Brookville, Long Allen and he and he was like, yo, 3671 03:05:41,200 --> 03:05:44,160 Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna spend no more than seven hundred thousand, 3672 03:05:44,520 --> 03:05:46,280 Speaker 2: that's what That's the highest we gonna bid on it. 3673 03:05:47,040 --> 03:05:48,879 Speaker 2: So we went out there to this house in Brookville, 3674 03:05:49,879 --> 03:05:53,800 Speaker 2: got to seven hundred, and his ego kicked in seven 3675 03:05:54,920 --> 03:05:58,119 Speaker 2: eight hundred fifty nine hundred. 3676 03:05:58,480 --> 03:06:00,240 Speaker 4: We went no way upse I think a million too. 3677 03:06:00,680 --> 03:06:03,840 Speaker 4: Didn't get the house, but we end up getting another house. 3678 03:06:03,879 --> 03:06:06,080 Speaker 4: But what that told me was, you know what I'm saying, 3679 03:06:06,680 --> 03:06:08,920 Speaker 4: be in a different game right now. And he got 3680 03:06:09,000 --> 03:06:11,240 Speaker 4: my back, you know what I'm saying. So it's times 3681 03:06:11,360 --> 03:06:13,960 Speaker 4: like that that I remember more than I guess the 3682 03:06:14,080 --> 03:06:17,080 Speaker 4: Macy's name, because those are goals out trying to set 3683 03:06:17,240 --> 03:06:20,039 Speaker 4: the home buying, taking care of my family, just getting 3684 03:06:20,200 --> 03:06:23,800 Speaker 4: a daily paycheck, another weekly paycheck from some shit you 3685 03:06:23,840 --> 03:06:24,720 Speaker 4: build out of nothing. 3686 03:06:25,280 --> 03:06:28,080 Speaker 2: To me, that shit was monumental to me. 3687 03:06:28,720 --> 03:06:30,960 Speaker 4: So that's what the things I remember the most, just 3688 03:06:31,040 --> 03:06:33,440 Speaker 4: really creating something from nothing to be able to pay 3689 03:06:33,520 --> 03:06:34,480 Speaker 4: my bills with that shit. 3690 03:06:35,280 --> 03:06:36,960 Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie. I gotta make some noise for 3691 03:06:37,040 --> 03:06:43,600 Speaker 5: that what was in that moment man, Because for me 3692 03:06:44,120 --> 03:06:48,360 Speaker 5: being from New York City on the thirty fourth Street, 3693 03:06:49,440 --> 03:06:51,520 Speaker 5: it was thirty fourth Street and forty second Street. 3694 03:06:51,640 --> 03:06:55,680 Speaker 2: If you didn't if once you conker the coliseum rather. 3695 03:06:55,640 --> 03:06:58,119 Speaker 1: The next movement, Yeah, forty deuce is the next one. 3696 03:06:59,120 --> 03:07:03,480 Speaker 2: That was the next one. That coliseum got a gird. 3697 03:07:05,640 --> 03:07:08,040 Speaker 5: Then thirty fourth Street is big at all? 3698 03:07:08,520 --> 03:07:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, because there's a lot of more other people. 3699 03:07:13,040 --> 03:07:17,039 Speaker 5: This is kind of it's just going international with going 3700 03:07:17,160 --> 03:07:20,840 Speaker 5: up the block. Yeah, how did you feel with having 3701 03:07:21,520 --> 03:07:25,920 Speaker 5: your mother fucking closed in thirty fourth Street Macy's n. 3702 03:07:26,040 --> 03:07:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean it felt at that time. We were still 3703 03:07:28,000 --> 03:07:30,040 Speaker 1: young too, so the brand was still coming up. 3704 03:07:30,320 --> 03:07:30,480 Speaker 5: You know. 3705 03:07:31,200 --> 03:07:32,920 Speaker 1: We used to do this thing we say one time 3706 03:07:32,959 --> 03:07:34,720 Speaker 1: when we would walk down the block and still see 3707 03:07:34,760 --> 03:07:37,520 Speaker 1: people in our clothes and be like one time, everybody 3708 03:07:37,560 --> 03:07:38,480 Speaker 1: be like where where where? 3709 03:07:38,680 --> 03:07:38,840 Speaker 2: You know? 3710 03:07:39,400 --> 03:07:42,280 Speaker 1: So it was still new for us. But having any 3711 03:07:42,440 --> 03:07:46,400 Speaker 1: Macy's window, especially like even my boy Jay. He had 3712 03:07:46,440 --> 03:07:49,080 Speaker 1: got fired from Macy, so he always had this personal thing. 3713 03:07:49,280 --> 03:07:49,720 Speaker 2: He worked for. 3714 03:07:50,360 --> 03:07:52,240 Speaker 1: He worked for Macy, so he had got fired for, 3715 03:07:52,640 --> 03:07:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, supposedly stealing like a three dollar time and 3716 03:07:56,080 --> 03:07:58,000 Speaker 1: he never forgave him for that. But you know what 3717 03:07:58,080 --> 03:07:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 3718 03:08:00,120 --> 03:08:03,800 Speaker 2: But to see us come back and see his face 3719 03:08:03,879 --> 03:08:05,760 Speaker 2: that night and see all of us, he said, the 3720 03:08:05,800 --> 03:08:08,240 Speaker 2: guy I'll be selling to you. 3721 03:08:08,400 --> 03:08:08,600 Speaker 1: Yep. 3722 03:08:08,800 --> 03:08:09,959 Speaker 2: So it was it was big. 3723 03:08:10,080 --> 03:08:13,280 Speaker 1: And then you know, Macy's windows is historic, bro like 3724 03:08:13,959 --> 03:08:16,600 Speaker 1: for us, it was the first time I think Urban 3725 03:08:16,879 --> 03:08:19,039 Speaker 1: Fashion Company graced the windows. 3726 03:08:19,200 --> 03:08:21,360 Speaker 5: Talk and I think had done it. I think he 3727 03:08:21,480 --> 03:08:24,920 Speaker 5: did it eventually, but we was in the windows, that's right. 3728 03:08:26,280 --> 03:08:27,879 Speaker 2: So this is pretty much my last question. 3729 03:08:31,040 --> 03:08:36,120 Speaker 5: There's so many other people that's from Queens or black 3730 03:08:36,240 --> 03:08:40,640 Speaker 5: four people that's together. What was the moment where YA 3731 03:08:40,800 --> 03:08:43,640 Speaker 5: actually sat down and said this is what we're going 3732 03:08:43,720 --> 03:08:47,280 Speaker 5: to focus on. Me and e FN been friends forever, right, 3733 03:08:50,320 --> 03:08:57,760 Speaker 5: I recorded his studio, he's been my studio in New York. 3734 03:09:00,120 --> 03:09:04,760 Speaker 5: But we had invested in Drink Champs nine months and 3735 03:09:04,920 --> 03:09:06,640 Speaker 5: kind of didn't make anything back. 3736 03:09:07,120 --> 03:09:08,840 Speaker 2: No, we didn't make anything back. 3737 03:09:09,120 --> 03:09:13,520 Speaker 5: Anything back, but it was it's so impactful. That's the 3738 03:09:13,560 --> 03:09:15,920 Speaker 5: only thing we got back was the impacts. The impact, 3739 03:09:16,480 --> 03:09:18,800 Speaker 5: but no one knows that. So we just kept going. 3740 03:09:19,879 --> 03:09:21,760 Speaker 2: But it was times we were like, hey man, what 3741 03:09:21,879 --> 03:09:24,240 Speaker 2: the fuck are we doing? Really mean? 3742 03:09:24,879 --> 03:09:27,560 Speaker 5: This is? This is this is this is not Luca did. 3743 03:09:29,800 --> 03:09:34,400 Speaker 5: Was there anytime doing fool where y'all? I was like, damn, bro, 3744 03:09:34,800 --> 03:09:37,640 Speaker 5: We're sure we were doing this is the right thing. 3745 03:09:39,920 --> 03:09:42,360 Speaker 6: I don't think anybody, I don't think everybody. Anybody's ever 3746 03:09:42,400 --> 03:09:46,040 Speaker 6: asked us that. So when Carl and I started in 3747 03:09:46,520 --> 03:09:51,080 Speaker 6: eighty nine, we started it, we were doing this thing 3748 03:09:52,520 --> 03:09:54,640 Speaker 6: called like you said. He had a family, he had 3749 03:09:54,640 --> 03:09:56,039 Speaker 6: a he had a child, and he had a wife. 3750 03:09:56,160 --> 03:09:58,160 Speaker 6: She said, Yo, what are you doing? You gotta take 3751 03:09:58,240 --> 03:10:01,000 Speaker 6: care of us. And I think that we close it 3752 03:10:01,120 --> 03:10:04,080 Speaker 6: down cause he ran out of money when you got. 3753 03:10:03,959 --> 03:10:05,600 Speaker 2: First start, We closed down the brand. 3754 03:10:06,200 --> 03:10:10,960 Speaker 5: We stopped and then he I'm sorry, but is this 3755 03:10:11,280 --> 03:10:13,800 Speaker 5: before or after the super Soakers? 3756 03:10:14,600 --> 03:10:18,039 Speaker 6: After after when we started putting the actual physical name 3757 03:10:18,080 --> 03:10:21,800 Speaker 6: food on product? Close it down? We closed three times 3758 03:10:22,120 --> 03:10:23,720 Speaker 6: from eighty nine to ninety two. 3759 03:10:24,600 --> 03:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Call this. 3760 03:10:25,160 --> 03:10:27,240 Speaker 6: Carl says, I got to take care of my family, 3761 03:10:27,280 --> 03:10:30,000 Speaker 6: can't do it. I'm like, whatever, cool, I ran out 3762 03:10:30,040 --> 03:10:32,959 Speaker 6: of money. One thousand dollars, two thousand dollars. You're the financier, 3763 03:10:33,080 --> 03:10:34,000 Speaker 6: I'm the financier. 3764 03:10:34,200 --> 03:10:35,720 Speaker 2: Whatever. This is no big money. 3765 03:10:37,360 --> 03:10:39,560 Speaker 6: People start seeing us. Yo man, so the flea mark 3766 03:10:39,600 --> 03:10:42,720 Speaker 6: or whatever whatever I need. My boy Ja comes back. 3767 03:10:42,760 --> 03:10:47,360 Speaker 6: He's fighting desert storm. He's like, he's he's alright. He 3768 03:10:47,400 --> 03:10:49,039 Speaker 6: comes back. He said, Yo, man, what are you doing? 3769 03:10:49,080 --> 03:10:50,879 Speaker 6: I want to go to fashion institute. By the way, 3770 03:10:51,400 --> 03:10:52,920 Speaker 6: I got a little bit of money. He give me 3771 03:10:53,080 --> 03:10:57,000 Speaker 6: five thousand dollars. We started again. Call no longer. The 3772 03:10:57,080 --> 03:11:03,080 Speaker 6: picture not necessarily cool. It starts to get momentum. We 3773 03:11:03,240 --> 03:11:08,400 Speaker 6: run out of money. Close it again. People, Yo, I 3774 03:11:08,520 --> 03:11:09,120 Speaker 6: sort of stuff. 3775 03:11:09,160 --> 03:11:09,880 Speaker 2: I like this stuff. 3776 03:11:10,440 --> 03:11:14,600 Speaker 6: Call comes back. Jay says, Yo, let's rock. I'll move 3777 03:11:14,640 --> 03:11:16,720 Speaker 6: in your house with you. I'll work during the day. 3778 03:11:17,360 --> 03:11:21,640 Speaker 6: I'll put some rent. Keith says, I'll move in your house. 3779 03:11:22,120 --> 03:11:25,280 Speaker 6: I'll leave in the basement. I'll put some rent. Call 3780 03:11:25,360 --> 03:11:28,800 Speaker 6: says I'll come back. I didn't go, and we mortgage 3781 03:11:28,840 --> 03:11:30,960 Speaker 6: the house. I work at Red Lobster. We all are 3782 03:11:31,040 --> 03:11:34,560 Speaker 6: working off and on shifts. The Foobol brand then comes 3783 03:11:34,640 --> 03:11:39,000 Speaker 6: back again. It's not big. We get that call for 3784 03:11:39,120 --> 03:11:42,440 Speaker 6: three years off until like ninety five five. This is 3785 03:11:42,480 --> 03:11:44,200 Speaker 6: a three year span that this has happened. This is 3786 03:11:44,240 --> 03:11:46,160 Speaker 6: a seven year this started six years span. 3787 03:11:46,200 --> 03:11:47,119 Speaker 2: So right around. 3788 03:11:48,640 --> 03:11:51,880 Speaker 6: Eighty nine we failed the first time, started agetting ninety 3789 03:11:52,040 --> 03:11:55,520 Speaker 6: failed again, started again in ninety one, failed again in 3790 03:11:55,680 --> 03:11:59,119 Speaker 6: ninety two. Then we all just come together. We live 3791 03:11:59,240 --> 03:12:01,920 Speaker 6: off of shit beans and what are the cases more 3792 03:12:02,000 --> 03:12:02,800 Speaker 6: than rent the house? 3793 03:12:03,480 --> 03:12:10,160 Speaker 2: What the answer? People probably saying to you, you're failing life. 3794 03:12:10,600 --> 03:12:11,640 Speaker 2: I got I got a wife. 3795 03:12:11,640 --> 03:12:15,520 Speaker 6: So they're all laughing at us, not talking to us. 3796 03:12:15,840 --> 03:12:20,160 Speaker 6: Ninety five we start to get some form of traction. 3797 03:12:21,320 --> 03:12:25,959 Speaker 6: Ninety six, we start to get a deal. Wow, millions 3798 03:12:26,000 --> 03:12:28,200 Speaker 6: of dollars in the bank by ninety eight, ninety seven, 3799 03:12:28,320 --> 03:12:30,879 Speaker 6: ninety eight, and we're globally recognized. 3800 03:12:30,440 --> 03:12:35,480 Speaker 2: At that time. But that's how it goes. Yeah, I 3801 03:12:35,560 --> 03:12:37,360 Speaker 2: don't think, I don't think. I don't think I have 3802 03:12:37,440 --> 03:12:39,000 Speaker 2: a recaptain in that way. 3803 03:12:39,200 --> 03:12:41,160 Speaker 6: And it was about partners coming in and out and 3804 03:12:41,240 --> 03:12:43,680 Speaker 6: we all say, yo, we got something bigger than this man. 3805 03:12:44,280 --> 03:12:46,680 Speaker 6: Work your day job, don't save money, put it into 3806 03:12:46,760 --> 03:12:49,000 Speaker 6: this ship, move into my house, Sleep on the floor, 3807 03:12:49,080 --> 03:12:49,840 Speaker 6: sleep on the ground. 3808 03:12:49,920 --> 03:12:52,200 Speaker 5: Get your wife. Your wife's mad at you. I don't care. 3809 03:12:52,560 --> 03:12:57,760 Speaker 5: Go ahead, that's rock sounds about right. They killed it, 3810 03:12:57,840 --> 03:12:59,959 Speaker 5: so then you wonder, you wonder why we were still brothers. 3811 03:13:00,080 --> 03:13:01,879 Speaker 5: So what were we gonna do after that? I've been 3812 03:13:01,920 --> 03:13:11,960 Speaker 5: through everything, through everything that was hard, crazy as we. 3813 03:13:14,240 --> 03:13:16,280 Speaker 5: Drink Champs is a Drink Champs ll C. 3814 03:13:16,480 --> 03:13:19,960 Speaker 8: Production hosts and executive producers n O r E and 3815 03:13:20,160 --> 03:13:21,200 Speaker 8: dj e f f N. 3816 03:13:22,360 --> 03:13:23,160 Speaker 2: Listen to Drink. 3817 03:13:23,040 --> 03:13:27,320 Speaker 8: Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you 3818 03:13:27,480 --> 03:13:31,240 Speaker 8: get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode 3819 03:13:31,280 --> 03:13:33,920 Speaker 8: of Drink Champs, hosted by Yours truly, dj e f 3820 03:13:34,080 --> 03:13:36,200 Speaker 8: N and n O r E. 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