1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show Ridiculous Historians. We have a 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: classic episode for you. As of current recording. Your boy here, 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Ben Bollen is on the road. Our super producer, mister 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Max Williams has learned a lot about death by molten gold. 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah you have. 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: And our pal our paled Nol is out there chasing waterfalls, 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: as TLC would say. But this is a true story. 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: This is a cool one for this classic Max, would 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: you agree with this statement? In general, human beings are 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: very good at losing things? 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're pretty good at that. 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: I've lost a number of things on my desk already today. 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: And it's not that late in the day. It's it's 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: we're past noon, but it's not that far past noon. 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're like barely into the technical afternoon. And it's always, 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: you know. Elizabeth Bishop wrote this amazing poem about the 17 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: art of losing everybody. Please check it out. It's an 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: absolute banger as far as poetry goes, and it speaks 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: to a universal conundrum. Human beings as a species have 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: this inborn nack for losing everything from car keys to 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: entire civilization's true story. For many, many centuries, the city 22 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: of Troy was considered to be a made up thing 23 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: until it was rediscovered and proven to exist in the 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. In this classic episode, we are traveling to 25 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: South America and we're going to learn the story of 26 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: two nations that between themselves ended up losing not their 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: car keys, but an entire waterfall. Ridiculous History is a 28 00:01:50,840 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, friends and neighbors. Back 29 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: to the show. We'd like to begin today's episode with 30 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: a snippet of a stone cold jam from the nineties. 31 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: Total snom Cold classic and You're right. 32 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: Many of you may recall that iconic hit by TLC Waterfalls, 33 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: as in don't go chasing Them. 34 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Ben, I'm Nolan Ben. 35 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: Did I ever tell you that my first ever live 36 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: concert was TLC? 37 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: You did mention that? Not on air though. 38 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: It was TLC opening for MC hammer And also Boys 39 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: to Men was on the bill ABC, BBD. It was 40 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: the era of TLC where they wore really big, baggy 41 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: clothes and had like condoms taped all over them and stuff. 42 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: Sure, prophylactics is like sex education exactly. Yeah. 43 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was definitely pre Waterfalls era and creep and 44 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: all of that stuff. 45 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: But I felt like I was a little ahead of 46 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: the curve on that one because they were sort of unknown. 47 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: They were the Opener Opener, and then Boys to Mend 48 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: and then MC Hammer, which was right around the time 49 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: Adam's Family soundtrack was out with the Hammer song. 50 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: Remember they do what they Want or do state what 51 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: they want? Remember that one. Yeah, they didn't actually perform that. 52 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: I was kind of bummed. That's not true. 53 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: He did perform it, but I kind of thought there 54 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: would be a little more Adam's Family esque pageantry involved. 55 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: Being that the movie was, you know, fresh in theaters. 56 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: But no. 57 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: My very first concert that I can recall, so not 58 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: some kind of opry Land thing had to perform in 59 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: or something. The very first concert I went to as 60 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: a as a patron was when my parents took me 61 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: to see the Four Tops. And this was in the eighties, 62 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: so this was not the you know, heyday per se. 63 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, then, I think you buried the lead their 64 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: opry Land performances. Yeah, yep, go on. 65 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: Well, my first foray into acting was a recurring role 66 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: at an amusement park called opry Land. I was from 67 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: like six to seven or eight years old. I learned 68 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: that it was a paying gig on my eighteenth birthday. 69 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Did they Were they stowing it away for you? I 70 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: had no idea. 71 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, they were. Yeah, they gave it to you. 72 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: They gave you your your earnings. They probably took a 73 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: finder's fee. 74 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: But it was the eighties. No, it was a different time, 75 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: and some pretty good things happened in the eighties. 76 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: Were you a song and dance? 77 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: Man? 78 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: I mean, what was your I'm sorry, I don't mean 79 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: to harpin this. 80 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Oh I I was the hero who comes to town 81 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: to clean up the to clean up the craziness and 82 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: stop the gunfights. 83 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: Nice. 84 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: They had a thing where they would randomly, I'm doing 85 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: air quotes here, fix they would randomly pick a kid 86 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: out of the crowd, make you fight to pull no, 87 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: to pull up, and say, oh, you're gonna be the 88 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: star of the show. And the adults loved cool. So 89 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: I was just there every summer as their plant in 90 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: the crowd. And then they would give me this cartoonishly 91 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: big hat. 92 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm smiling so big right now. This is this thrills 93 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: me to no end. 94 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: That's very kind, you, you say. My my parents did make 95 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: a framed picture of it with some of the cash 96 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: that they kept for decades. 97 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: Is it one of those old timey CPA tone type 98 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: pictures where you got your six guns on. 99 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: No, I have one of those of my family. 100 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: But the eighties, right, the eighties, Yeah, thriller. I feel 101 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: like now we could just say thriller. That was It 102 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: was a big hit, big hit back to the future. Yeah, 103 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: big hit, big hits. And we also have in an 104 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: article from Lori L. Dove a shout out to trapper keepers? 105 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Did you ever have a trapper keeper? 106 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? I had that. What was what made it special? 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: Just the brand and it had like, you know, kiddies 108 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: and stuff on it, like it would be at least 109 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: a frank trapper keeper. 110 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: There could be all kinds of different ones. 111 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: Is the velcrow? There's a flat crow too, right, I 112 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: believe they have. 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: It was just like a binder, but it was just 114 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 3: sort of a fancy binder and everyone had had to 115 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: have one. 116 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: Oh and speaking of things we have to have, how 117 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: do we get so far without giving a shout out 118 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: to our super producer Casey Pegram for shame on us. 119 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: I think we just got so distracted by nostalgia today. 120 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: I got caught up in Opryland and picturing little Ben 121 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: breaking up gunfights at the ok Corral. 122 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: To this day, Noel, I remember all of my lines, 123 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: every single one. 124 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: Maybe I we'll have to have a reading later in 125 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: the episode. 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: I can do them right now, do it because they're all. 127 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: Yep, oh okay. 128 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: It's like it was like a twenty minute show anyway. Yeah, 129 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: shout out to Opryland, big, big fan, shout out to 130 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: the eighties. 131 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you have a cabbage patch kid? I have 132 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: been to that farm Babyland General in Georgia. Yeah, that's 133 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: very weird. It is extremely weird, very strange place. 134 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: There's a tree in the middle of the main building 135 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: and there are just little baby cabbage patch heads sprouting 136 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: up out of the ground all around this tree with 137 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: these little leaves, little leaves, and they some of them 138 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: kind of move, and but what do they do with 139 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: the tree? 140 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Ben? Have you? Have you been to the ceremony. 141 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: I did not stick around for the ceremony because it's 142 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: in this old building. It's a is a hospital. 143 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: I think it's a old hospital. 144 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: So they call it baby Land General like it's meant 145 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: I think, at least it's meant to feel like well, I'm. 146 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: Creepy because they announce like births and stuff too over 147 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: the intercom. 148 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: Well they know they birth the babies out of the 149 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: hole in the tree. 150 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: Well for some people that might be really fascinating. 151 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: And then there's a nurse that takes the baby out, 152 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: extracts it from the tree, holds it upside down, and 153 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: slaps it on the butt. I had my kid's birthday 154 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: party there one year. 155 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was. I was at a bluegrass festival. 156 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: That's how I found it. 157 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: That's an odd locale. 158 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: Fluegrass and chili. It was great. 159 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what else was great? What else 160 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: was great? The eighties? 161 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: There we go, we promise going to get to the 162 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: episode eventually. The thing is, we can look back at 163 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: the past with such rose colored glasses, with such nostalgia, 164 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: and sometimes we can forget the other things that happened 165 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: in the eighties that were not as awesome as Back 166 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: to the Future, traffic Keepers or thriller. Right, there's a balance. 167 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: We as a species had some let's say, we've had 168 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: some hilarious missteps and we've had some tragic missteps. You know, 169 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: it was a drug crisis which continues today. A lot 170 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: of the clothes looked really weird, although they're coming back 171 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: in style. 172 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: Hypercolor was that a thing that was more of a 173 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: nineties thing? Was it hypercolor? 174 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I was such a nerd as 175 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: a kid, surprisingly that I didn't really have a grasp 176 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: on the ZEITGEISTO. 177 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you ever have a hypercolor shirt? Though? 178 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: The ones where you kind of touched it and it 179 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 3: would do your imprint of your hand would be on it, Like. 180 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know. The texture really spooked me. 181 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: That's right. You have very specific feelings about textures. 182 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: It's true, that's true, but everybody does. What are some 183 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: of the things you remember from the eighties and noll 184 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: or things that when you look back you think, whoa 185 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: that was? That was crazy? 186 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's weird. 187 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: Like when I was younger, I used to think that 188 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: the eighties were inherently bad and that all eighties music 189 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 3: was crappy because I just didn't know better and I 190 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: was I assumed that the eighties were lame because of 191 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: the you know, big pop hits and banana rama and 192 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: the stuff that I would see. But I didn't have 193 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: parents that were into cool music, so I kind of 194 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: had to find my own way. My parents were both 195 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: professional classical musicians, so I really did have to figure 196 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: that out for myself. But now I look back on 197 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: the eighties with utter rose colored glasses and joyous nostalgia. 198 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: I remember the cartoons ThunderCats, all the Deek cartoons like 199 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: Spector Gadget, and remember Deek. 200 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: Deek. 201 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that clip back. I couldn't tell you 202 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: a thing about the plot. I also ThunderCats. There was 203 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: wasn't there a star Hawk or something as silar Hawks 204 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: silver Hawks. 205 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: Deek was the production company, and they made most of 206 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 3: their car tunes based on pre existing toys and properties, 207 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: and say, yeah, boy, we are just going on. 208 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: Today's episode is not about any of this stuff. 209 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: No, we are mentioning the eighties because one very strange 210 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: and incredibly significant bad thing happened in the eighties. Many did, 211 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: but one is the subject of our episode. In the 212 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, while many of the people listening to the 213 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: show were actually alive, humanity took one of the largest 214 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: waterfalls on the planet and erased it. 215 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: Humanity, what the hell. 216 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: Does erase the whole thing? And to tell the story, 217 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: we have to journey to South America, specifically along the 218 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: border of Paraguay and Brazil, where once stood an incredibly stunning, 219 00:10:54,120 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: spectacular series cascade of waterfalls called the Guaira Falls, Yes, 220 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: the Guyerra Falls, which produced in their day, the greatest 221 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: volume of falling water in the world. This is something 222 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: we found out in some of our earlier research. The 223 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: definition of largest waterfall can be pretty tricky. And it's 224 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: got a couple of caveats. So this is largest in 225 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: terms of the amount of water that fell, But there 226 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: are other ones that might have a higher elevation or 227 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: longer dropped. 228 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: Sure, like Niagara Falls, but this one had twice the 229 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: flow of Niagara Fall. That sounds like a pretty cool compliment. 230 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: You got twice the flow of this other waterfall. It 231 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: sounds like a strong selling point. Yes, there were a 232 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: total No you mentioned it was a series of waterfalls. 233 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: There were a total of eighteen and all and seven 234 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: of these were the most powerful waterfalls, right right, And 235 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: that's where it got the nickname seven Falls. 236 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: Right. 237 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: So these the series of falls is located just twenty 238 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: kilometers from another quite famous, more famous, arguably waterfall called 239 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: the Iguaza Falls, and that is again along the border 240 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: of Brazil and Paraguay, and you could consider this could 241 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: have considered this a natural wonder of the world, and 242 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 3: many considered it to rival the Iguaza Falls. And it 243 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: was again a series of eighteen massive waterfalls, and it's 244 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: on the Piranha River, right at the point where there's 245 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: like a gorge and the river gets kind of squeezed 246 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: through the gorge. 247 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the total height of these falls was three 248 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five feet, with the largest individual fall 249 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: or cataract being one hundred and thirty feet. You could 250 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: hear the sound of the water miles and miles and 251 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: miles away. 252 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: It's right around thirty kilometers away. And the reason that 253 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: flow was so strong is because that gorge we were 254 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: talking about it actually narrowed abruptly from three hundred and 255 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 3: eighty meters to sixty meters, which created that intense flow 256 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: that we talked about earlier. 257 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: And you can check out a map of the site 258 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: from a book called A New Gateway to the Heart 259 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: of South America written in eighteen seventy one. Wait, guys, 260 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: you might be saying that sounds pretty outdated. Yes, but 261 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: it's a more accurate depiction of the waterfall than you 262 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: would find nowadays, because again, Guira Falls no longer exist. 263 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what they would call an ex waterfall. Yes. 264 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: And there's one other thing that sounds almost too sappy 265 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: to be true, but is magnificent and it's a true story. 266 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: And it has to do with the mist of the waterfall. 267 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: Right, it's true. 268 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 3: Apparently you could go to these falls anytime during the 269 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: day and there would just be this like perma rainbow there. 270 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 3: It just sounds like a magical land, a perpetual rainbow. 271 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, called the care bears. So what do we do 272 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: as humanity? 273 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: We see this amazing, gorgeous wonder of nature and we decide. 274 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: Let's let's blow it up, right, yes, so build some 275 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: kind of power plant. 276 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what happened? What made us take this particular 277 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: paradise and put up a parking lot for water? There 278 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: we go, We got it there? 279 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: Oh, you know you got there, my friend. It's a damn. 280 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm here to support you. It's a damn. 281 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: And you're right about the electricity. The government of the 282 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: area decides to build a dam, a huge dam, a 283 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: four point eight mile long dam called the Itapu Dam. 284 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. And before doing that again, they had 285 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: to blast out with dynamite those rock faces that the 286 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: falls fell fell down. Yeah, so no more waterfall. And 287 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: what happened was the falls were submerged when the four 288 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: point eight mile at Tyapuo Dam was built down river. 289 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: And this is the seventh largest river in the world, 290 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: just just to make that clear, and it started to 291 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: be diverted in nineteen seventy eight, actually caused about ten 292 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: thousand families to lose their homes have to relocate. 293 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: Yes, what is that like? Eminent doma how they how 294 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: do they make people do that? 295 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: Well, eminent domain is the practice that we in the 296 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: United States would be most familiar with in terms of 297 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: like roads widening and stuff like that. But laws like 298 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: that do exist in other countries. And you know, it's 299 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: it's very tough to be an individual, family or household 300 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,359 Speaker 1: against lack of a better term, big government. 301 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: Big big electric, big electric, because it is government, right, 302 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: this is a government, this is a government infrastructure. Yeah, exactly. 303 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: So obviously they would have had to pay them something 304 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: I can't imagine. They just you know, say get get out. 305 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's probably a lot of paperwork involved because 306 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: it is a joint undertaking by Brazil and Paraguay, and 307 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: believe Argentina originally raised the ruckus about it, but ultimately 308 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: the dam got built. On October thirteenth, nineteen eighty two, 309 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: they finally closed the dam and this allowed the river 310 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: to flood the falls, the seventh largest river in the world. Again, 311 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: as you point out, to finally flood the falls. 312 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: So the waters began to rise, and this did not 313 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: happen overnight. In fact, thousands of tourists came to the 314 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: area to get one last look at the falls. And Ben, 315 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: I have to correct myself here. I mentioned earlier that 316 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: they dynamited those those rock faces that did not happen 317 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: until later after the whole thing was underwater, because they 318 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: wanted to promote safer navigation of the river. Oh so 319 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: that was the deal there anyway, though, So these people 320 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: are walking over this precariously maintained footbridge and it collapsed 321 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: and eighty people lost their lives. 322 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: Holy smokes, Yes, this is true. They soldiered on with 323 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: the project, though, and you could have you know, as 324 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: you can imagine, at this point, they've spent millions of dollars. 325 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: They've already sunk so much time and effort into this dam, 326 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: and they say, you know what, We're going to stick 327 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: it out. The first electricity is generated by the dam 328 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four, before it was even fully completed, 329 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: which was nineteen ninety one. 330 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, are we being too hippy dippy 331 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: about this, ben? I mean, it did create an awful 332 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: lot of power. Yes, maybe that's a good thing. 333 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. Is it a worthwhile sacrifice? 334 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: You know, it really depends on what perspective somebody wants 335 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: to take. I'm sure there are people who are receiving 336 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: the electricity who think this was more than worthwhile. But 337 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: there are also a lot of people, I imagine, who feel 338 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: like the damage to the ecosystem isn't justified. But there's 339 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: no arguing that this provides a massive amount of energy, 340 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: both to Paraguay and Brazil. 341 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in the neighborhood of one hundred tarowatt hours 342 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: of power each year, which is seventy five percent of 343 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: Paraguay's electricity and seventeen percent of Brazil's. So you know, 344 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: it's a big deal. Yeah. 345 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: By comparison, that's enough to power just this one damn 346 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: creates enough power to supply the state of California. 347 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: How much power does a rainbow generate? 348 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: It generates the power of love. Bro, you can't measure. 349 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 2: That, I know, I know. Well that's the thing. 350 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: I cave off a little testing. 351 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: No, I like it. 352 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: I like no, I'm passionate about it too. And unfortunately, yeah, no, none, none, 353 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 3: power other than the you know, power of love doesn't 354 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 3: doesn't turn on lights. My man. 355 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: That's true. So that's true. 356 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: And you know, it's also it's a very difficult argument 357 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: to make if you have to tell people who don't 358 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: have electricity that you're not you're able to provide it, 359 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: but you're not going to you know, that's that's a 360 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: real dilemma. But we do have good news. As we said, 361 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: it's providing this enormous amount of electricity and it's still 362 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: a tourist destination. 363 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 364 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: In twenty fourteen, more than eight hundred and fifty six 365 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: thousand people visited the dam. You know, some possibly paying 366 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: homage homage ooh ooh, help us out here. 367 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 4: It is homage if you're staying with the French pronunciation. 368 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: And that has been casey on the case. 369 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: Love it. It's so great, so helpful. 370 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, it's sort of you know, probably 371 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: a bittersweet thing, although people do go to like the 372 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: Hoover Dam and stuff, so it's probably like the dull 373 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: tourist that just want to go see a cool dam, 374 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: and then they're the ones that are pining for the 375 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 3: old way. 376 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: And because the rock face has been destroyed underneath the water, 377 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: these waterfalls are not coming back. 378 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: They've donezo. It is actually a really funny statement. 379 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: I think it's funny from the director of the company 380 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 3: that built the damny issue to say, we're not destroying 381 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: seven falls, We're just gonna transfer it to It's hypoo 382 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: dam whose. 383 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 2: Spillway will be the substitute for the falls beauty. 384 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: And you can see the spill way that they're talking 385 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: about here. It's like a venting system, you know, and 386 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: it goes off at an angle down this concrete slope right. 387 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: Not no prim rainbow though, no. 388 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: No, no beautiful scenery. And this inspired a lot of 389 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: art and a lot of again nostalgia yearning. We cannot 390 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: verify that Don't Go Chasing Waterfalls is about this event, 391 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: but you know, we. 392 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 3: Should probably talk a little more about that song though, 393 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: so we get the fair use privileges. 394 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: That's true that's true. It is an excellent video. It 395 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: is warning about living life too fasts, impulsive decisions. 396 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: A life of vice. 397 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: And we could relate that even to this event by asking, 398 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: you know all and balance, hundreds of years from now, 399 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: what will have been the correct choice? 400 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: You know, don't it always seem to go that you 401 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: don't know what you got till it's gone. Yep, yep, 402 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: it's true, and reference the episode today. 403 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: This is but I think we're you know, I think 404 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: we're actually nailing it. I think we're doing an okay job. 405 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 3: A little more background on waterfalls produced by the Atlanta 406 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 3: hip hop collective organized Noise True, who worked with the 407 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 3: Goodie Mob and the Dungeon Family crew all that, and they. 408 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: Actually recently did an event sponsored by Lululemon. 409 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: We return to the old dilemma of progress versus progress 410 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: versus preservation. Really, because although this has been, on balance, 411 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: a very good thing for many residents of Paraguay and Brazil, 412 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: it is by no means the only time events like 413 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: this occur. In fact, twenty eight thousand rivers waterways have 414 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: disappeared in China in recent history. You can read about 415 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: it an article by Angel Sue and William Mao on 416 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: the Atlantic called twenty eight thousand rivers disappeared in China. 417 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: What happened? And without going too far into this, a 418 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of it goes back to environmental damaged soil loss, erosion, 419 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: climate change. But then China also built an enormous dam, 420 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: the Three Gorges dam. 421 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 3: Ben, You're encyclopedic knowledge of the dams of the world 422 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: never ceases to amaze me. 423 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: And you know what, one day it'll it'll be remotely useful. 424 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: I mean, you've talked about two damns so far, and 425 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: to me, that is encyclopedic. 426 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: Wait, we got the three because we said Hoover Dam 427 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: as well. 428 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: That's right, we did say we did mention Hoover Dam. 429 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: Remember that in the Beavis and butt heead Do America 430 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 3: when they go and visit the Hoover Dam. 431 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's a good part. That's all I got. 432 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: We should totally go take an extra credit segment and 433 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: the three of us go head out to see the 434 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: Hoover Dam. Well, we've been to Vegas through various work 435 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: related projects. 436 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: Before, but I have never been to Vegas. You've never 437 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: been never been to Vegas. 438 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: You were there? 439 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 2: No man who was that m doppel oh man? 440 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: Okay, well, maybe we should just fly into Vegas do 441 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: a night. A lot of my friends call Vegas a 442 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: three day city. 443 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: Can we do kind of a fear and loathing kind 444 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: of situation? We should? We should you bring the ether, 445 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: my friends? 446 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: We should definitely have a lawyer. 447 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: Casey are you? 448 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: Are you a lawyer by any chance? In addition to 449 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: your many other talents. 450 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: As your attorney, I advise you to get into town 451 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: very quickly. I don't know what that exactlyne. 452 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so we have some kinks to work out, but 453 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: this sounds like a promising expedition. We would also, of course, 454 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: love to hear your take on this dilemma. And if 455 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: you have ever been to the site of the falls, 456 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: or if you have visited this dam on the border 457 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: of Paraguay and Brazil, we'd love to hear from you. 458 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: What was it like? Yeah, I want to know. Inquiring 459 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: minds want to know. 460 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 3: We can relay it to the inquiring minds after we 461 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: have sayciated our inquiring minds. 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And as it turns out, 499 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: super producer Casey Pegrim, he produces that show too. 500 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: See, you've got to leave something for the normal people. 501 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 3: You know, Man, you can't do it all, but he 502 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: will sure try his best. And we have a specific 503 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 3: app to recommend. 504 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: That is right, if you would like to tune in 505 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: to Dressed and explore the who, what, when, and why 506 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: of what we wear, we think you will love their 507 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: episode that came out this April about smuggling bustles. During 508 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: the nineteenth centuries, the Americans would smuggle French goods into 509 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: the country to avoid paying ridiculously expensive duties. 510 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: But he said duties, I did. 511 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: I did, No, no, no, don't cut it. 512 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: We keep it it. 513 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: But it is true that one of the most commonly 514 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: smuggled eyes might surprise you because it wasn't you know, 515 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: gold or onions or whatever. What's a bustle Is that 516 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: like a boustier or a brazier. It's the thing that 517 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: goes on the back of the dress. 518 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, yep, I got the ruffle. 519 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, as you get tell, neither of us are fashion 520 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: historians by trade. 521 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: We're barely like we barely can dress ourselves all morning 522 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: I do. 523 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: I'll speak for myself. 524 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 3: We've been I've been umping my game a little bit though, 525 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: thanks to hanging out with April and Cassidy, who I'm 526 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: actually going to visit. They're based in New York City 527 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna go hang out with them tomorrow. 528 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: So let me pick up this thread though, because one 529 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: of the commonly smuggled items it wasn't golder onions. They 530 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: were French fashions items. Yeah, like bustles. They were packed 531 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: in trunks, they were smuggled underclothing. You can learn all 532 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: about it by tuning in to Dressed Available wherever you 533 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: listen to this podcast and. 534 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 3: Leave them a nicer view too. They're a new podcast 535 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 3: and they're really doing cool things. 536 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 2: We're big fans. 537 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: Tell them we sent you too. Meantime, we hope that 538 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: you enjoyed this episode. We would like to give a 539 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: big thanks, of course to Casey, of course to Lori L. Dove, 540 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: who wrote a fantastic article on this event, this tragedy 541 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: or this great step in progress on HowStuffWorks dot com. 542 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: It's true. 543 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: And we'd like to thank Alex Williams who composed our theme. 544 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: And we hope you'll tune in next time. 545 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: When we take a dive into banned scientific texts. 546 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: It's going to be a laugh riot. It's going to 547 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: be a big old time, big old time. 548 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: So that's all for today, folks. Most importantly, thank you 549 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: so much for listening. We hope to hear from you 550 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: very soon. Wish us luck as. 551 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: We go on our fear and Loathing inspired expedition. Now 552 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: that's going to be a big time. 553 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 554 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.