1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Happy Friday, everybody, TG I f during training camp. Actually 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: it's our second Friday at training camp, and well the 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: first Friday it tried to rain. Today, well it rained, 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: and it rained a lot. But we welcome to the 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: show from the HONDAYE Texans Radio Studios, Texans All Access, 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: John Harris, Mark Vandermir trying to dry off still because 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: it was a wet one and Mark, I want to 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: go through training camp today. Just kind of your thought. 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: But there was a definitive winner to me, and it 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: was not the offense. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: Yes, how about that? Not the athough although field goal. 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: Situation and to practice game on the line, so to speak. 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: Seven comes through. 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna I'm just gonna say this right 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: now about I want to see how nicely I can 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: say this the offense and have a good day. That's 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: not really what I was gonna say. When I think 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: about today's practice. First of all, I probably need to 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: apologize to you because they had one on one. 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and ran off. 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: I didn't care. He looked over and you're like, Donny, Donny, oh, 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: it's one on ones Okay. I took off like Forrest Gump. 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: I was just like run Forrest from. 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: But you know what, you were there for most of 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: a break and got back kind of after the break 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: because I was wrapping up with Earl Mitchell, who will 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: hear from tonight, and then you were gone and I 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: thought I could vamp, you know, I just vamped for 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: ten minutes, but you were back in no time. 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I looked at you. I caught your eyes like one 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: on ones and I was like, he speaks my language. 33 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: He knows exactly what that means. And so I went 34 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: over there and watched one on ones and it was good. 35 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: But I missed. I missed Will's first two reps against Titus, 36 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: and then I missed I missed one of shacks reps 37 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: against Foley. But I saw Shacks rep his second rep 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: against Foley. And Fully's a big dude, he has said 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: in this chair right next to us. We've seen how 40 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: big he is. And they were working on something and 41 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Shaq is you know when defensive lineman take that one 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: long arm and they just drive it into an offensive lineman. 43 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: Shaq was doing that as an offensive lineman to Fatsukasi. 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: It was incredible. But the two guys fifty one and 45 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: fifty five Will Anderson Junior and Daniel Hunter. 46 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I know where you're going. Holy cow, Johnny, it 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: was holy cow. 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: I thought they were just gonna have to stop practice, 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: and I thought, hey, maybe we can work against that 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: second team d line, see if you can get something done. 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Because Daniil and Will were living in. 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: The backfield, a living just hello, yes, like right in 53 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: CJ's bread basket right there. Every single time. It felt 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 3: like yep, it was hard for CJ to get anything 55 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: done because he had no time. Those guys are ridiculously 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: good right now and probably consistent consistently will be good. 57 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: I mean, Daniel's got a body of work in this 58 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 3: league and will have the defensive rookie of the year 59 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: on her if they play anywhere near where they were 60 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: today in practice. 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: The Texans are really good shape with the pass rush. 62 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Holy smokes. Now again, Lamor Tunssel not out there, so 63 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: Blake Fisher's over at left tackle, so he's getting a 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: baptist and by fire. So when they're one on one reps, 65 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was interesting because Blake was 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: going to go against Daniel. He's seen a lot of 67 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Daniel h thus far in training camp, and so he's 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: kind of getting accustomed to it, but still that just 69 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: hits different just watching Danill just work. So his first 70 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: rep in one on ones, I thought he held up 71 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: pretty well. He tried to try to bull Blake, Blake 72 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: kind of held up, and then at the last second, 73 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know, Deneil tried to throw a move. 74 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: Blake held up pretty well. On the next rep, Danil 75 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: went inside. Just just I don't I mean, I don't 76 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: even know how you explained it on radio. And the 77 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: fact like he started like he was going to go outside, 78 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Blake stepped out, and then Daniel just goes inside quickness. 79 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: It's so hard to describe so quick. He's so quick. 80 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: And I'm saying right now, if those two guys are 81 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: healthy for thirty games, seventeen times tow would be thirty four. 82 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: They're healthy for thirty games. I heard Sean talking about today. Oh, 83 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: whether they're going to be double digit sack guys or 84 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: whatever the case might be, they're both gonna be double 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: digit sack guys. Oh. Yeah, they were ridiculous today, ridiculous. 86 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: And you're right, it felt like one of those practices 87 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: that JJ used to have. 88 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and JJ would be jumping. 89 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: Up with bat and balls down and after you do that, 90 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: he'd spin move, he'd rip inside like you just couldn't 91 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: block him and you had to take him out of 92 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: practice if the offense wanted to do any and I 93 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: felt like that was kind of what the offense was 94 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: going to have to do. Hey, fifty one to fifty five, 95 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: go sit down. But there's not much relief after that 96 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: because it's Derek Barnett, Jerry hughes Den. You go autry like, 97 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: there's not much let up when you go to the 98 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 1: next group. 99 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: With that defensive anger, we have plenty of guys can 100 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: rush the passer. I'm wondering about Titus Howard, how Titus 101 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: feels about that, what he thinks of Will in year two. 102 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: Has Will jumped a level already as we sit here 103 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: just a week into training camp, and that is making 104 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: it tough on Titus. It's just difficult to get things 105 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: done now. I just think once you get into a 106 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: real game situation and you're really able to run the 107 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: ball or try to run the ball, I think it 108 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: does change things. Even though they're in pads, it's not 109 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: full tackle, it's thud and I think the fear is 110 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: not there in the defense. Fear slash concern of the 111 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: running back going off. They feel like I would have 112 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: had him. I would have had him well, Damian Piers, 113 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: Johnny and Damian Pierce. No, you wouldn't have maybe, but 114 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: you might not. You might think you have them and 115 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you're five yards deeper than 116 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: you thought you were. So I think if they were 117 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: able to actually play and run the ball, it might 118 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: be a different story. And Titus is a good run blocker, 119 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: so we'll see if that materializes. 120 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: But right now, it. 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: Looks like Will is outstanding. We already knew he's good. Yeah, 122 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: he's really good. He might he might be better than 123 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: we imagined. 124 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and to think about what we thought he was 125 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: gonna be and to think that he could be even 126 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: better now, those guys are good tested. I mean, look, 127 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: when you know the culture trotting nowt Ryman and Braden Smith, 128 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: guy's been around. They've seen some things. You know Week one, 129 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: you know the Bears tackles Darnell Wright is a guy 130 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: that they faced. Will faced in the SEC. So they're 131 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: gonna face some guys, but they're not facing Laramie tunsl 132 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: right off the bat. Now they'll get Christian Dearris off 133 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: from the Vikings in week three, so that that'll definitely 134 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: be a test. But I don't know that they're facing this, 135 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, not facing Trent, They're not facing Laramie, They're 136 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: not facing the Eagles guys, which, by the way, Jerry 137 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: Hughes dominated two years ago. He dominated Jordan Milata in 138 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: that Thursday night game. He just went after him. I 139 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: remember he had on three plays against my A Lota, 140 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: he had two sacks and we're like, what is going on? 141 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: So there's just no let up. And that's the other one, 142 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes. So I go down and watch what I 143 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: wants and he's on a far side and I can't 144 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: I can't even see who's he's going against. But first 145 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: move speed power, bull rush, drove tackle right back in 146 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback like, oh boy, that's pretty good, and I 147 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: couldn't see who was turns around. I'm like, that's fifty two. 148 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: So now I've got to recalculate. Okay, Jerry's fifty two. 149 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: Wow. 150 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: So the next move and now the tackle's worried about 151 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: speed to power, so as he do he goes outside, 152 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: drops the ghost move and gets and kind of slides 153 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: by pops back up and he's back in the quarterbacks face. 154 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, Jerry Hughes looks like a veteran, but not 155 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: a fifteen year veteran. He looks like he's been in 156 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: a league maybe four five years, kind of the spry 157 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: guy that maybe just got a new contract. He does 158 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: not look like a fifteen year veteran at all at all. 159 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: And if he's giving you those kind of pass rush 160 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: on top of what danil And will give you, and 161 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: then you've got Autrey, and then you've got Derek Barnett, 162 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: holy smoke. 163 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we haven't even gotten to what a Solomon 164 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: Bird do for this team. If anything, we'll find out 165 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: soon enough. I guess he's gonna play a ton of 166 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: these preseason games. But Jerry didn't have the off season 167 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: with the squad. Jerry was signed late in the offseason. Obviously, 168 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: it took great care of his body. And Johnny I 169 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: go back to Hunter. I just think Hunter is a revelation. 170 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: I love JG. But this is a nice trade the 171 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: Texans made with the Vikings and Hunter. At one point 172 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: they put two tight ends over there. Yeah, but then 173 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: here it comes well because you have no help on 174 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: that side, and that makes it tough. I mean, Darry 175 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: having a hard time block, and Darry's a good pass blocker. 176 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: I mean he's in there and third down a lot, 177 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: it's as difficult. 178 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: It's difficult against these guys, So tip your cap, give 179 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: them credit. 180 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: Offense will improve. 181 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: What we always say, offense is creative, takes more time. 182 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: Defense is destructive. 183 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: You can destroy something a lot faster and air quotes easier. 184 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: I still think this is an offense in development the 185 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: way you want to see it. 186 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: They're not there yet. They're not going to be there yet. 187 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: But the line's got. 188 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: To be a key factor obviously, but they're not going 189 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: to be where they're going to be. I'm happy the 190 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: defenses apparently got an edge at this point. That's what 191 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: you want. We always say this this time of year. 192 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: If your offense is laying ways to your defense, your 193 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: defense stinks. Should be ahead of the offense in training camp. 194 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the elements did play a role in some respect. 195 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: Point good point. 196 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the elements were, they were present, they were evident, 197 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: you see slipping, but they weren't. Your quarterbacks didn't throw 198 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: the ball exceedingly well, all of them. 199 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean C J. Davis and Tim. None of them 200 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: threw it really well. They got actually probably threw it 201 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,119 Speaker 1: the best all day was probably Tim Boyle. And and 202 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: what does this tell you? This stood out to me 203 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: during practice, Mark, I have kind of a theory and 204 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: kind of Ben Scaronic had himself a day. And I've 205 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: said that for a few days that Ben's kirna keeps 206 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: showing up. Whether he's with the twos or the threes, 207 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: he keeps showing up. And there were there other than receptions. 208 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: There was one time there was a holding penalty, defensive 209 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: holding or a defensive past interference when he was involved 210 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: somebody grabbing Skornic before he's about to make a catch. 211 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: He was the only one making catches and doing things 212 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: consistently during the day. And I keep watching this and 213 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, then they go to punt team. He's the 214 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: personal protector on punt team. He's he's pointing things out 215 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: on punt team to make sure that everybody is in 216 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: the right spot, everybody's got the right protection, everybody is 217 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: blocking the right guy. And I start to think, man, 218 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: what are your numbers going to be at receiver, because 219 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: you can't deny that that guy's been one of the 220 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: better receivers in camp thus far. 221 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 222 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: How you I don't know what you do. I don't 223 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: know what you do there. But ben'skronik has been really 224 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: really good the last few days. 225 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: I could whittle it down to seven maybe, yeah, eight. Yeah, 226 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,479 Speaker 3: it's hard though, right because Robert Woods keeps making plays 227 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: and then use him on special teams sometimes that's right, 228 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 3: reaching return stuff on return the guy you got to 229 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: have back there to make. 230 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: Sure you catch the football on part returns. Yes, absolutely, 231 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: But I agree with. 232 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 2: You about Skoronic. It's hard to imagine him not part 233 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, he's so handy. He does every good word. 234 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: That's exactly what he is. 235 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and on a day when nothing is really going 236 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: right offensively, this is the thing that I come back 237 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: through Mark nothing is going right offensively. And when you 238 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: watch Skaronic, he's got pretty good size, I think for 239 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: a receiver runner. If you say he's elite size, but 240 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: it's pretty good size. I mean he's six two six 241 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: three two twenty. 242 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: He almost feels like that guy that there's a show 243 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: that I like to watch called It's. 244 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: Always Sonny in Philadelphia, and there's a guy named Charlie 245 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: Day and he plays his character Charlie. 246 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: It was in Horrible Bosses. 247 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, he's hilarious. Well. In the Gang, as 248 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: it's called, Charlie does the dirty work. He does all 249 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: the stuff that everybody else doesn't want to do, and 250 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: Charlie just does it, and that makes Charlie, you know, 251 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: invaluable to the group. I felt like today that that 252 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: was dirty work because the offense is not doing a 253 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot, and it was like, Okay, 254 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: somebody's got to save us. And in some sense, Ben 255 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: Scronick was that guy, and he continues to be that 256 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: guy for this offense. I'm looking forward to seeing more 257 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: from twenty six because the more days that go by, 258 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: the more plays he's making, the more trusted he's become. 259 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: I feel like Tim Boyle was going to look him 260 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: up each time he threw the football, like he was 261 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: going to throw the ball to bind because scronic was 262 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: catching it and making a play. 263 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: How about Davis finding Noah Brown on a nice semi 264 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: deep ball and looked for him again but he couldn't 265 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: come down with it in the rain or whatever the 266 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: situation was. R You mentioned Boyle a couple of times 267 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: CJ on that field goal situation scrambled then he had 268 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: tanked and he to get him into the field goal range. 269 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: They got it spiked in time. In fact, Nico ran 270 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: it out, had to run back to the line of 271 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: scrimmage so they could get set and spike. That was good, Johnny. 272 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: There was more shippiness today. We didn't think we'd see it, 273 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 3: but we saw it. And clearly there's something going on here. 274 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 3: It's it's freaking competitive between these two sides of the ball. 275 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: And I don't know what de Miko's saying behind closed doors, 276 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 3: but I got a feeling he just loves this. He 277 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: loves that they're all going to come together as a team. 278 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 3: But right now it feels like without the racial situation, 279 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: and remember the Titans, it just feels like offense versus 280 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: defense austin them in this camp, and it's kind of cool. 281 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 282 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened on that play. I ended up. 283 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the rain kind of shut down my notebook. 284 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you can see it. 285 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: It is, it's your notebook. 286 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: Got notebook, got water light. I went straight to my phone. Yeah, 287 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: so I got to like start typing. So I'm not 288 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: a good you know no, you know no, look Typer, 289 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: So I see Tuley almost come up with the interception, 290 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I kind of hear 291 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: some whistles and some things, and I look up and 292 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, god. 293 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: We got another skirmish. 294 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: Well, like, what's going on? It happened again. 295 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: Did you see how fast the whole offense got over there? 296 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: Everybody it They got all hands on deck. 297 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: They got the message. But I think, and this goes 298 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: back to the first of all, I don't know what 299 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,359 Speaker 1: Twitter account it was, but it passed on my timeline. 300 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: It was a Twitter account that posts a picture of 301 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs and it says Stefan Diggs was the middle 302 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: of a fight. The middle of a fight at Texas practice. 303 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: Are you surprised? It was like, man, so I had 304 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: nothing to do with. 305 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: How about you nothing watch practice or ask somebody what 306 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: the heck happened? 307 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, But Aaron Rabel during the show Today Show sent 308 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: me a video and and it backs up exactly what 309 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking about that practice. Those dds were maybe 310 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: not out for blood, but they weren't backing down. And 311 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: today with the defense having and you've done, you've. 312 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: Played, you know, pick up ball, and you can't his shot. 313 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: You're not hitting anything at all. You're getting a little bunnies. 314 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: You can't make anything. 315 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: And the guy that you're covering is just made some 316 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: wild shots. He's then driven by you and he you know, 317 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: and one, and you're just you're fuming because this is 318 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: the guy that you typically shut down and you're fuming, 319 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean fuming, and then there's a little dust up 320 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: for the ball and then all the emotion comes out 321 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: and you you know, bad things happen at that point. 322 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: That's the way I feel like the offense is right now. 323 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: They can't hit a bucket, can't get anything go right. 324 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: The defense is doing everything seemingly right, and the offense 325 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: is just getting more and more agitated as they go. 326 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: And the other side of this is I think de 327 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: Miko has built this this defense, maybe not in his 328 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: complete image, but a defense that's got a little bit 329 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: of an edge. 330 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: Oh they got the nasty, They've got some nasties to it. 331 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: It is there. 332 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, hey, by the time we get 333 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: to the regular season, they will be hit ready. It's 334 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: not like, oh they got to learn to tackle again. 335 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: I know the tackle in camp. But the way they 336 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: were hitting in practice yesterday, the way they got after 337 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: it today. 338 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: I'm not worried. 339 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: No, I'm not worried at all. 340 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: I think they're fully aware of what they've got opening day. Now, 341 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: opening day is still six weeks away. Yeah, one concern 342 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: I had watching practice today was six weeks? Can we 343 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: kick the ball in two weeks? And what are we 344 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: gonna do for six weeks? I think they need another 345 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: vacation or something. This is too intense because I want 346 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: them to hit the ground right now. 347 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: They look in mid season four. 348 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: Now I'm probably exaggerating that, in fact I am, but 349 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: they look good to go in many ways, and I 350 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,359 Speaker 3: know they have to get up to speed with football 351 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: conditioning and the callouses of the paths and all that. 352 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: But six weeks, Demico is going to be challenged to 353 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: find a way to keep them all involved entertained. I mean, look, 354 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: they're not gonna not pay attention, but you know what 355 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,479 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Johnny, they got to find a way to 356 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: spend the time as productively, wisely, concernervatively in many ways 357 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: as possible, yet be really good to go full speed 358 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 3: when they face the Colton Indy. 359 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: You know what I can't wait for what Alaric Jackson, 360 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: Rob Havenstein. The l A Rams offensive line, those tackles 361 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: in particular, are gonna have their hands full. 362 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: Now. 363 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: I do think the Rams did a nice job of boastering. 364 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: They went and got Jonah Jackson from Detroit guard, moving 365 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: Ovula over to center. And then they've they got Kevin 366 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: Dotson and they reapped with him. They've got a good interior. 367 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a good test for the for the 368 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: the outside of the inside guys, for the edges. Alaric Jackson, 369 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: Rob Havenstein. That is going to be a blast watching 370 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: these guys rush from the edge against those Ram defenders. 371 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: That's the one because I started thinking about, Okay, when 372 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: will when will like the first group be able to 373 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: really kind of unleash. I don't know that I want 374 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: to see too much of them in preseason games. I 375 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: don't think. 376 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if you maybe Giants, you know, mayby 377 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 3: Giants more than once. Probably not, But I think the 378 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: Giants game, I guess possibly Pittsburgh they're in there. 379 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: For maybe Yeah. But that's what makes that Rams joint 380 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: practice to me that much more interesting because that's when 381 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna see the ones on one. 382 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: That's the big test. That's gonna be the test. 383 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: That's the one like just save until then and then 384 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: for that one day that you practice against them, just unleash. 385 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 3: I think preseason games, let's just go with the four. 386 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: I know preseason week one is the week after the 387 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: Texans played, because their Week zero whatever. Let's just go 388 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: one through four for the Texans. Preseason weeks one and 389 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: four for the Texans are gonna be that preseason game four? 390 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolute of days gone by? 391 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: Correct two and three. 392 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 3: I could see the offense or starting defense getting a 393 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: series in Pittsburgh, and I could see something similar or 394 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: more against the Giants here, and then that's it. 395 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: After the joint practice. 396 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: Is the Rams game noon August twenty fourth, here will 397 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: be preseason game four of days gone by. 398 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely. That's why I think that joint practice is gonna 399 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: that joint practice day is gonna be massive. And I 400 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: cannot wait for these guys, Like, Okay, they've been going 401 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: against each other, and the only thing I keep coming 402 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: back to is this offense is gonna be really really good. 403 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: Now Laramy's not out there, Joe Mixon has not been 404 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: out there, so there've been a couple of guys not 405 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: out there. They're gonna be key to this offense. 406 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: They're I saw mixing really with everybody today. You're right, 407 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 3: You're right, they're not saying you're not saying that, but 408 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: uh mix it. Diggs will not stop talking to his teammates. 409 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: He's a teammate man. He wants to confer about so 410 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 3: many different things before and after plays. It's fun to watch, actually, 411 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 3: it really is definitely fun to watch. Also fun to 412 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: watch disease else Shire Christian Harris, Jake Hansen, the linebackers. 413 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: We broke those down this morning. We'll have that for 414 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: you next right here on Texans All Access. What's happened everybody? 415 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Friday initiear that Texans All Access from 416 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: the Today Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Aris, 417 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: football analyst, sideline reporter, and each and every day at 418 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: nine o'clock during Tech since Training campb Live, I break 419 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: down a position today. It was line backers. But that's 420 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: a fun position, really fun. As he's a Shire Christian Harris, 421 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: it's unlikely to get your top two. Other guys are 422 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to step up in one guy in particular, 423 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: I think you should watch his number, twenty two, Jacob Billups. 424 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to our breakdown of linebackers for 425 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four Texans. 426 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: It's time for a position group breakdown, and today it 427 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: is linebackers. I feel like David Brady when they come 428 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: out of the tunnel. Let's talk about the linebackers, and 429 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go as usual, in no particular order. Johnny, 430 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with Henry Toatoa. Getting a lot of 431 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 3: reps here, second year al Alabama. 432 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 2: What are we looking at? 433 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: Well? I think Henry last year started earlier in the 434 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: year and then it kind of fell off as Christian 435 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: Harris started picking his game back up. But Henry could 436 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: play any of the positions. You like him on the outside, 437 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: but he can play the mic. He gets everybody lined up, 438 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: could play any outside where he can use his speed 439 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: to help in pass coverage. I think last year was 440 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: a good year for Henry from a linebacker perspective, even 441 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: because he had attle diversity he had to deal with, 442 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: and I think he learned a lot. I think he's 443 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: gotten bigger. Just seeing him walk the hallways, he looks 444 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: like he's a little bit bigger. I'd like to see 445 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: him have a little bit more pop, tackle a little 446 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: bit better. I remember that was the one thing that 447 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: Nick Casario told us last year that we asked him, like, 448 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Henry looks really good. OTA's like, what is it that 449 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: that MADEO and fourth round? And he said, honestly, he's 450 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: probably his tackling and you can see that in games. 451 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: But I think if that's improved, he's got a little 452 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: bit stronger on the offseason. With Christian Harris's status right 453 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: now kind of up in the air, we see a 454 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: lot of Henry toatoa these preseason games, and I think 455 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: what he'll show is what he's showed in those early 456 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: games last year, but I think you'll have a little 457 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: bit more pop in his pads, and I think he'll 458 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: tackle a little bit better, and I'll just give you 459 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: that much more depth at that position. 460 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about Harris because we haven't seen 461 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: him out here, so we're hoping for the best. And 462 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: they don't have to release anything injury wise right now. 463 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: They would week one. 464 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if there are any decisions to be made, 465 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: but let's see what happens with him because he looked 466 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: so good at the end. 467 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: Of last year. 468 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: Got to get him out here. 469 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: Oh he was so disruptive as the year wore on. 470 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because everybody thought, ooh, hey, Demiko Ryans 471 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: is here. 472 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 4: Man. 473 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: That means Christian Harris is really gonna step his game up. 474 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: And then those high expectations weren't really met early in 475 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: the season, and I think Christian got down on himself. 476 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: I think he lost his confidence. But about midway through 477 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: the year, I think it was I think it was 478 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: the either the Cincinnati game or maybe the Carolina game 479 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: before the or Tampa Bay game. Somewhere around that seven 480 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: eight week seven eight nine. He started making a few 481 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: more plays and it's like, Okay, he's starting to get 482 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: this thing a little bit. And then you'd see him 483 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: make a few more plays and you're like, Okay, now 484 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: only is he getting this, he's now an impact player. 485 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: Then by the time we got to the playoffs, he 486 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: was a game changer, and you just started seeing the 487 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: light go on in so many different ways. And now 488 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: he's blitzing. Now he's spying on Lamar Jackson. Now he's 489 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: dropping in coverage and picking the ball off and taking 490 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: it to the house. He's making all those plays, and 491 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: you just want to see him build off of that 492 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: and become, you know, the Dray Green Law to the 493 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: Fred Warner, or maybe he becomes the Fred Warner, the 494 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: guy that can drop thirty yards in coverage and still 495 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: be a factor and just be relentless and ferocious like 496 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: Fred Warner. Is that Demko Ryans really single handedly built 497 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: a former safety at EYU and Fred Warner into the 498 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: best linebacker in the game. And I think people think, hey, 499 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: maybe he can do that Christian Harris, And I think 500 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: Christian Harris could definitely do that. So he's got every ability, 501 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: every ounce of ability you want, except right now, he's 502 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: not healthy. Right, However, how many times you said it 503 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: when we play game six weeks Yeah, okay, get yourself healthy, 504 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: be ready to go. We don't need Christian Harris ninety 505 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: eight percent. In week four preseason he tweaked something else. 506 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: We need Christian Harris one hundred percent. We walk into 507 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: Lucas Oil week one. 508 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: Opening night is six weeks from last night. Just to 509 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: get everybody. 510 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: Situated there time wise, all right, I'll get back to 511 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 3: some of the bigger names. 512 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: A couple of guys. 513 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 3: Let me give you a two at a time here 514 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 3: with some of these guys who are fighting for spots, 515 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 3: maybe making an impression. You tell me Jamal Hill, a 516 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: rookie from Oregon, and Tarique Barnes, rookie from Illinois. 517 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, Illinois that you'll go Treak Barnes, teammate of Jake Hansen. 518 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: You know somebody that we'll talk about. 519 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 520 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: I think you know Barnes is a rookie. It's gonna 521 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: be fighting for tom on special teams. But he can 522 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: run a little bit. He can be disruptive. You know 523 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: he was that at Illinois. 524 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 3: I think you still got to learn and then some 525 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 3: weirds still learn to play linebacker and he's got to 526 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 3: learn to play that in his system. 527 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: But Jamal Hill Oregon, you're gonna talk about run. That 528 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: dude can fly now. He's a former safety and you 529 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: can tell he's packed on a little bit of weight. 530 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: He's not what he not what he used to be 531 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: weight wise. 532 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 3: He's listed at two twenty seven. Yeah, I think he's 533 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 3: a little heavier than that. But his speed is very, 534 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: very impressive. He's one of the guys that I am 535 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: really curious to see in game action. And how he. 536 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: Fits into this defense because he can really fly. Now, 537 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna be a factor special teams, But 538 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: does he break into that group? Does he give you 539 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: enough that you feel like. 540 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: Okay, game day, I'm carrying what five linebackers, four linebackers, 541 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 3: and he's gotta be one of them because I gotta 542 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: have him on special teams and in a pinch at 543 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: will linebacker. But he's a guy you definitely draft and 544 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: develop and see where he is in a couple of years, 545 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: and I think he can end up at some point 546 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: being a starter for you down the line. 547 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: If that's not this year. 548 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 3: Boy, Jamal Hill's wearing number fifty six, and that's just 549 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: one of those numbers that it just. 550 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: Never looks right with somebody. 551 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: Where's that number? You know, certain numbers. 552 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 2: Don't look right, like fifty nine, which is worn by 553 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: Marcus Harris, a defensive tackle. 554 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: Right now, moving on with the linebackers breaking them down, 555 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: Let's get to Neville Hewitt here, who can play linebacker. Well, 556 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: he's an outstanding special teams player. We had him on 557 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: the show recently. But you tell me about Nevill Hewitt 558 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: in this group? 559 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he is as good a run stuffer 560 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: as you're gonna find. Fortunately, that's not the game play today. 561 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: I think Nevill hewittt in the mid nineteen nineties, I 562 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: think Nevill Hewt would have been starting line back and 563 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: twenty hundred and thirty tackles a game because you're running 564 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: two backs, iso you're doing all the kind of things 565 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: that Neville Hewitt is absolutely perfectly made to stop. But 566 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: that's not the game anymore. Nevill's not great in pass coverage, 567 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: but he's a hell of run stuffer, and so sometimes 568 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: he ends up being a third linebacker on the field 569 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: when you know you're facing a team that's gonna run 570 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: because he is so physical. But man, on special teams, 571 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: he is an absolute superstar. You've got to have Neville 572 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: Hewitt for special teams. Now, how that fits into the 573 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: new kickoff don't know, but I know on punt kickoff 574 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: the last few years, there have been very few players 575 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: on this team as good on special teams as he is. 576 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: Max Tooley is a rookie for BYU. His hometown Bountiful, Utah. Yeah, 577 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: that's a town in Utah. 578 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: At BYU. I'd watched you know, a few games here 579 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: or there, and I was watching a game against Oklahoma 580 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: I think was last year, and he's wearing number thirty one. 581 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: I think he's forty five for US. Now he's wearing 582 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: thirty one. I'm like, man, thirty one can move, kind 583 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: of tall, lanky, but he can move and he's making plays, 584 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: and I thought, Okay, let's see where this goes. He 585 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: ends up signing with the Texans and he's got four 586 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: opportunities and special team or I mean special teams, but 587 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: also get an opportunity in one of those linebacker positions 588 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: to see if he can't get under practice squad at 589 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: a minimum, and then work his way up from there. Again, 590 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: how many times have we seen guys earn your spot 591 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: on practice squad. You're around, you're hanging around, You're hanging around, 592 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: a spate of injuries, hits, all of a sudden, you 593 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: get on in the field on special teams. 594 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: On game day, you make a play, and who knows 595 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: what happens there. But Max two a good athlete long 596 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna fit this defense. 597 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: Very smart. Just watching pre physical guy too, so you 598 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: could tell that the linebackers have a type here in Houston. 599 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: And one of the things and one guy that will 600 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: talk about number zero here in a second. They all 601 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: can run. They all can run. That is an absolute must. 602 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: You can't just add, well, you know he's gonna plug 603 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: gaps and you'll be a two hundred and fifty pounds 604 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: linebacker and just you know, a bruiser. No, no, no, every 605 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: single linebacker on his field can fly. 606 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: You know that Peter King segment of his column, which 607 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: was I think or ten things? 608 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: I think, I think, yeah, I think, I think. 609 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: What do you think they think of Jacob Phillips right now? 610 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: Who we've talked about a bunch. We're calling him the 611 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: Blake Cashman Award winner. Maybe that's what we want him 612 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: to win because that would mean he stays healthy and 613 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: becomes a really good playmaker because he's healthy. 614 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: He hasn't been healthy yet in his pro career. 615 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Jacob Phillips is a lottery scratch off ticket 616 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: in some sense. He went and bought it for a buck. 617 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: Not really hurt you. Really, you scratch it off, you 618 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: match three sevens, and you win seventy five thousand dollars. 619 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's you'd love to be in that situation. 620 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: And I think Jacob Phillips is the guy that kind 621 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: of gives it to you in Austin. He's a guy 622 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: that long fast and as long as he stays healthy. 623 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: I think if I'm Damiko Ryans and Billy Davis Libackers coach, 624 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm watching each day going Okay, he's making strides, and 625 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: one of the reasons he's making strides is because he's 626 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: here every day. He's stacking good day after good day. Now, okay, 627 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: he passed that test. What's the next hurdle? The next hurdle? 628 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: Preseason games? Is he doing preseason games? Can he stay 629 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: healthy at all those? That obviously is the thing he 630 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: is going to be heard from in these preseason games, 631 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: and you can't miss him. He looks like a small 632 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: forward out on a field, but he runs in. His 633 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: pass coverage has been tremendous, tremendous. He had won on 634 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: Kate Stover the fight day what day was at two 635 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: days ago Wednesday. He had a great play in Kate 636 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: Stover knocking the ball away at PBu. He's had about 637 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: three or four PBUs maybe more than that, but those 638 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: are the ones that I can remember seeing. So coaching 639 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: staff is just like, okay, they hurt a number one 640 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: pass the test. All right, if we cast his ticket 641 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: in now, it's probably worth about five bucks. Well, let's 642 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: see if we can't make it worth a little bit more. 643 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: My point in that isn't you didn't have to pay 644 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: a whole lot to get him because he just could 645 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: stay healthy. So if he does stay healthy, you've got something. 646 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: You've absolutely got something with Jack and Phillips. 647 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to Jake Hansen, who's named after 648 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: Jake Ryan in the movie sixteen Candles, which is a 649 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: better movie. Sixteen Candles are pretty in pink sixteen Candles 650 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: they both have Molly Ringwold. I think sixteen Candles as well. 651 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: Pretty pick was a huge hit though, and that was 652 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: discussed in that Brat Pack documentary. 653 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 1: Seen it. 654 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: I never I haven't finished it yet. 655 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: Johnny's good because I'm tired of them whining about being 656 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: brat Pack members because they think that's a bad thing 657 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: to be called the brat Pack. 658 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: It's a good thing you're called the brat Pack. 659 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: The rat Pack was the rat Pack with Sammy Davis 660 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: and Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, and they didn't complain about 661 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: being called rats, which. 662 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: Is worse than brats. So just embrace it and have 663 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: a good career. 664 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: He's bitter Andrew McCarthy because he's had a terrible career. 665 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: That's my breakdown of the brat Pack. 666 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: Thank Anyway, what about Jake Canson. 667 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: Well, you get to when you get to the end, 668 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: he kind of has that realization Oh he does. Okay, 669 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: all right, it's not all there, ye. 670 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: But self awareness what I was in something. You can't 671 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: get this kind of breakdown anywhere else anyway, what he 672 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: got on the Canson Yeah. 673 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: Guys, just when he has been on the field, he's 674 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: made plays for this organization. You think back to twenty two, 675 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: were playing that free he's in cold game up at Tennessee, 676 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: punches that ball away from Derek Henry and the guy 677 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: spot in the fourth quarter on the field, he finds 678 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: the football. 679 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 3: He's as smart as he gets. His dad was a player, 680 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: I believe at p YU and was a good player 681 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: at BYU. 682 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: He's the kind of guy that with his speed, with 683 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: his smarts, you look at it and go, okay, should 684 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: he be a starter? 685 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: Man? 686 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you don't want to give him 687 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: up because you know at some point he's gonna have 688 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: to go on the field and you're gonna be able 689 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: to trust him in every situation possible. I saw him 690 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago run down an outside zone 691 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: and you're like, man, he's got speed, he's got smarts, 692 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: good size, excellent tap. He's a really good football player. 693 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: And you know he's gonna be as special teams too. 694 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: So I think Jake Cansen's got to be in that 695 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: linebacker mix and the forty six man on game day 696 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: for sure. 697 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get to zero zero. Aziz al Shire, who hit? 698 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: Who is coming off a year in Tennessee which was 699 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: really productive coming off the forty nine ers, really productive 700 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: with Demiko Ryans as his head coach or defensive coordinator there, 701 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: And here he is, Johnny. 702 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: How's he looking. I've wanted a Zizel Shyer for a 703 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: long time. I wanted him in twenty twenty three, didn't 704 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: get him. He went to Tennessee. I was angry. Came 705 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: up again. This year he's a free agent, Like, okay, 706 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: maybe we get him this year. We're losing Blake Cash 707 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: and Milake's going back to his hometown of Minnesota. Maybe 708 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: we get azas first night at free agency. Boom, there 709 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: it is the Nico Autry and zizel Shy and I thought, Man, 710 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: if it stopped there, I felt like, that's pretty good. 711 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: I love those two guys. Disease is smart. I remember 712 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: you and I we were on a headset before before 713 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: the Tits game week. What was that fifteen? The one 714 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: up there? Yeah, and I remember you said, hey, John, 715 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: I talked to Mike Heath and Mike said that the 716 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: flu was running through the locker room and that Azz 717 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: had gotten basically struck down with the flu. Yep, And 718 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: he said, but he's gonna give it a go and 719 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: we'll see what he's got. Yeah, that dude bawled out. 720 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: I can't in my mind the whole game like ors 721 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: at some point where you're gonna see a Z's go 722 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: out of this game. I don't think he missed a play. 723 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: He was a stud that day, and that just confirmed 724 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: what I thought about him. 725 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: He is the leader of the defense. He and CJ 726 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: are talking about ball all the time. What the look. 727 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: Some of it's talking trash, but a lot of it 728 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: is just you see the hands kind of going through. 729 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: They're talking about routes and they're talking about different things. 730 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: Auzz is the guy you want in the middle. I 731 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: know we talked about last night with the general We've 732 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: I asked Andre that question yesterday. Which player can you 733 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 1: ill afford to lose throughout this year offense? Defense? Caziz 734 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: al Shire is definitely one of my top three. You 735 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: have to have that dude running things in the middle. Look, 736 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: this linebacker group I think is good. Christian Harris isn't 737 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: gonna play your mic. Henry could play your mic. But 738 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: I'd rather in that sense have is he's playing next 739 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: to Henry. Is he's playing next to Christian? Is he he's 740 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: playing next to Henry and Christian? Yeah, I'd like to 741 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: have that as opposed to what could potentially be no disease. 742 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: I think disease is the perfect fit in this defense 743 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. And I'm so glad the 744 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: zero is here. That's right, baby, the zero is here. 745 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: The zero is our hero. Dise's el Shire. He is 746 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna be fun to watch for sure. 747 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 4: Boy. 748 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: He was showing it off on Friday at practice. Are 749 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: we get back? It's Earl Mitchell. Time man. We had 750 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: fun time talking with Earl Mitchell, former Texan, former North 751 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: Shore High School Mustang. He will join marking me next 752 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: right here? On Texans All Accent. All right, we go 753 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: on final segment of this initiative, the Texans All Acts 754 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: says Training Camp practice number seven of the books. Go 755 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: check out Houston Texans dot com and get my Harris 756 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: hits for day number seven. Go check them out lengthy 757 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: one today because long practice not a great practice, especially offensively, 758 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: but got it done. Nonetheless, practice tomorrow and Saturday. Day 759 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: off on Sunday, and then it's practice Monday, practice Tuesday, 760 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: flight Ohio, play game Thursday. Holy smokes, I can't believe 761 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: it is here. Earl Mitchell, former defensive tackle for the Texans, 762 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: also played around, played with another couple of teams in 763 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: the league, but he's a Texan at heart. North Shore 764 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: High School Mustang. It's always fun catching up with Earl. 765 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: We caught up with him this morning. 766 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: Joining us right now is a Texans legend and high 767 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 3: school football legend from the city of Houston. 768 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: North Shore Mustang. Earl Mitchell. Earl, how's it going? 769 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 4: Hey going? Breathe? I'm happy to be out here. 770 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: Until they're unrabeled. 771 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: Our engineer, get the equalizer ready, because Earl's gonna blow 772 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 3: out the base. The subwhoopers of our audio gear here 773 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: with his Berry white type pipes. 774 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, there it is. 775 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 3: Anyway, So practicing in the ring take me there first. 776 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 3: What's the benefit? What do you gotta watch out for? 777 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 4: Oh Man? 778 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 5: First off, you know you think of like places where 779 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 5: would you rather be than playing this? You could be 780 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 5: in this or one hundred and ten degree weather. But 781 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 5: I really I think it's a great up ortunity for 782 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 5: the players to, you know, get a chance to practice 783 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 5: in the rain. You're going to have to deal with 784 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 5: adversity if you go to places like Chicago, go to 785 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 5: places like Seattle, you have to be prepared for those elements. 786 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely got to be prepared. But Earl, you got a 787 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: leader with this team that you know very well. And 788 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people around the league are like, 789 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: oh man, what what the Texas did last year? I 790 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: think there are a lot of surprises for a lot 791 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: of people. My guess is players that played with Vico 792 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: Ryans knew exactly what the Texas were getting a head coach. 793 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: Are you surprised at all with what de Vico did 794 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: last year? 795 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 5: Absolutely not, absolutely not. H You know, I got a 796 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 5: chance to play it with Demko. I knew the player 797 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 5: that he was. I got coached by him when I 798 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 5: was a player in San Francisco, and he did an 799 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 5: Amagian job with the young players, developing those guys, and 800 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 5: he's doing the same thing out here. So I'm not 801 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 5: surprised about the success they had last year. I'm not 802 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 5: surprised of the success they all. 803 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 4: Have this year. 804 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 3: What do you think of the system they run, Earl, 805 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 3: The way they handle things on the D line with 806 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 3: that four man's front, and every. 807 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 2: Team would love to get pressure with. 808 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: Just four But what are your thoughts last year, what 809 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: they did and how they'll approach it this year. 810 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, they just let their guys just go. 811 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 5: They just line up in there, just in this the 812 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 5: tax style defense that that I remember that he implemented 813 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 5: with us on Instant and fran though the last couple 814 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 5: of years, and it was just so much easier to 815 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 5: not read and react. You could just go and just 816 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 5: get just attack and you know, make plays in the 817 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 5: backfield and take away a lot of those responsibilities and 818 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 5: give that lots of the linebackers. 819 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: Ear The obvious answer to the question is when you 820 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: have really good edges, how much easier is it for 821 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: defensive tackles? A is Well, you know there's a lot 822 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: of tension paid to defensive ends that are really good. 823 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: This team has really good defensive ends. How does that 824 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: end up making life for defensive tackles interior guys that 825 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: much easier? 826 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 5: Oh sure, Well, when you have guys like taking care 827 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 5: of the contain the edges, you know, guys on the 828 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 5: inside can you know, really just penetrate and you know 829 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 5: they don't have to, you know, focus on holding up 830 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 5: guys as much, and you know they could just just 831 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 5: just attack their gaps, use their hands and just to 832 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 5: you know, be focused on getting more sex and that 833 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 5: helps out the defensive ends and all around the entire 834 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 5: the entire defense. 835 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: Earl Mitchell with US Earl. 836 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,959 Speaker 3: As your career evolved, what was your approach to training camp? 837 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: What was important for you? 838 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 3: How did you change your routine, if at all, and 839 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 3: how did you change the way you take care of 840 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 3: your body and get ready to play football. 841 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 5: I think every aspect of the off season was a 842 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 5: different preparation of whether the OTA's training camp, preseason, regular season. 843 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 5: I approach every single aspect of those phases differently, and 844 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 5: training camp was a big part of it. Just making 845 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 5: sure that you can you know, play through injuries, play 846 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 5: through adversity. That was the time to really kind of 847 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 5: kind of check your check your ego at the door 848 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 5: type moments where you're. 849 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 4: Going to get tired. 850 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 5: It's you know, day day four, day five, Like it's 851 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 5: just a different it's a different aspect, different animal to 852 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 5: handle those adversity moments in training camp are feature for 853 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 5: that early. 854 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: I know you played on the other side of the 855 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: ball off Madre Johnson, but you're a Houstonian, uh in 856 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: North short or Houstonian. What's it like for former players 857 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: guys that played here with Andre to see him going 858 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: into the hall. 859 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 5: Oh, it's amazing, you know. I was telling Andre yesterday. 860 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 5: Actually we had our Legends Legends day here and I 861 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 5: was in high school. You know, we played in the 862 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 5: state championship game and he came up to me when 863 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 5: I got drafted and told. 864 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 4: Me how he was at that game. 865 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so it was just an honor just to 866 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 5: know that he was there, and you know, it was 867 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 5: just under the you know, play with him because I've 868 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 5: admired his career, you know since day one, and to 869 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 5: play with him was a was a special moment for me. 870 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 2: You went to the forty nine ers after being here. 871 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 3: That must have been a really nice surprise the way 872 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 3: camp went weather wise versus your high school college because 873 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 3: you're in Arizona and pro career so far before he 874 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 3: went to the forty nine ers. 875 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 5: For sure, it felt like paradise compared to Houston. And 876 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 5: I remember we actually came here when I was with 877 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 5: the Niners to practice to get the Texans off for 878 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 5: training camp. So I remember going in front of the 879 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 5: team in Sant France and I had to get their 880 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 5: minds right. I had to make sure that they would 881 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 5: hydrate them and preparing to put this trip because it 882 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 5: was going to be brutal, but it was. It was 883 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 5: a good time and it gave me a lot of 884 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 5: nostalgic moments. 885 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 3: Earl, what's it like being part of the Texans Legends community? 886 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 3: These are the former Texans players and you're all legends 887 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 3: because you were in the league. I know you guys 888 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 3: have a tight knick group. We had travisov the other day, 889 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 3: we had Mike Quinn on the other day. What is 890 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 3: it like being part of that group. 891 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 5: It's honored to be a part of it. I think 892 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 5: Kandas she does a great job she's the director of 893 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 5: alumni or relations and with the Texans Legends to give 894 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 5: us that space to you know, come back and network 895 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 5: and communicate and just give us that locker room fill again. 896 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 5: And I'm honored to be a part of it, given 897 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 5: the opportunity to go back into the community and just 898 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 5: have fun and just give back er. 899 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 3: I think about you a bunch, because we've got some 900 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 3: guys one in front of us. Jalen Petree played at 901 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 3: Stafford Stafford High School, now playing for his hometown team 902 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 3: Kenyan Green. 903 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: Same thing. It's task to see to A and. 904 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 4: M and then here. 905 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: What was it like playing in your hometown as a pro. 906 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: You did leave to go to college, but then you 907 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: come back here and I know that's out of your 908 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: hands in some sense because you drafted. But being able 909 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 1: to come back home and play here as a pro, 910 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: what was that like? 911 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 4: It was honor. First off. 912 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 5: You know, it's a different it's a different game because 913 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 5: you get to come back with training camp, you get 914 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 5: to see your family, and there's a lot of adversity 915 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 5: that you know, you don't have to deal with because 916 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 5: other players are are struggling in that aspect. But I 917 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 5: was you know, I was grateful that my family was 918 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 5: here every day after train to camp, meeting them to 919 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 5: get to get to hang out them for like thirty 920 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 5: seconds of the hotel. 921 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 4: Yeah and yeah, it was. 922 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 5: It was definitely an honor just to have friends from 923 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 5: high school family come into that. I was training to 924 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 5: camp practices and urmy on Yeah, earl. 925 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 3: What was it like being part of the off seasons 926 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 3: going into twenty twelve? And I hesitate to say twenty thirteen, 927 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 3: but there were some high hopes going into twenty thirteenth. 928 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 2: I equate this. 929 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 3: Offseason to the twenty twelve one where expectations were through 930 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 3: the roof because you went to the divisional round, thought 931 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 3: was it match stays healthy? 932 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 2: Who knows what was the build up like for you? 933 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 3: And compared to this, if you could, because you live 934 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 3: in Jab, you're experiencing it like the rest of us. 935 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 5: It's definitely similar. I really feel the same energy that 936 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 5: the techniqus had, that momentum Dad carries us into, you know, 937 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 5: potentially good season. So you know, the guys that's doing 938 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 5: a good job is just not getting caught up in 939 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 5: it and just the stand of course, and I think 940 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 5: the Miko's he's he can. He's a he was, he 941 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 5: was a part of that time, so he knows like 942 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 5: the dangers of you know, messing up those opportunities and 943 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 5: just make sure that you don't get to focus on 944 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 5: the good. 945 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 4: Things, Earl. 946 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 3: Wednesday, we had what they call a fight, a fracus. 947 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 3: That's dust stuff right here on this field right here now. 948 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 3: I would imagine during your time as a player, especially 949 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 3: in training camp, you got in a few of those. 950 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 3: My question with that is you're getting those with the offense. 951 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: They still wear the same logo with you. 952 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: What's the most important thing after a fight like that 953 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: happens for both sides, to make sure that it doesn't 954 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 1: become a fracturing like it was in ninety three or 955 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: the Oilers there was a fractions all over the place. 956 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: How do you make sure that doesn't fracture? When you 957 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: have something like that happen on Wednesday, you. 958 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 5: Just go to the locker room afterwards, make sure y'all 959 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 5: have some you know, uncomfortable conversations, just to make sure 960 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 5: that y'all are protecting the team. And I know to Miko, 961 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 5: he definitely went in after just made sure that you know, 962 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,720 Speaker 5: they're just all about protecting each other. You know, frustrations happened, 963 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 5: but you know, just a part of the game and 964 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 5: just h you know, hopefully this guys just h you know, 965 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 5: just take that moment, reflect and just overcome. 966 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 2: Can that be good for a team? 967 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 4: It could? It could. 968 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 5: I think having that at that fire in you is important. 969 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 5: You know, you want to see guys like a fight 970 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 5: for each other and you know and get mad when 971 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 5: you know you're trying to protect you know, our number 972 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 5: one guy. So we have a we have a lot 973 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 5: of number one guys out here, so it's just important 974 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 5: just we just in protect each other. Earl. 975 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: I my conspiracy theory. 976 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 3: I watched the DBS make some hits and I was 977 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 3: like the DBS when looking for a fight on Wednesday, 978 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 3: do you ever go into a practice maybe I'm looking 979 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 3: for a fight, but you knew, like, okay, today. 980 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna let loose like offds live better. Be ready 981 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,720 Speaker 1: there could be some stuff happening. 982 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 4: Oh for sure. I mean you already. 983 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 5: You can feel the energy before practice even starts, like 984 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 5: you know, guys are coming in gripen, whether the injuries 985 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 5: or just you know, just having a bad day overall. 986 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 5: So or you know, they watched the practice film from 987 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 5: the day before. Yeah, it's usually those moments where guys 988 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 5: watched the film from the day before and they want 989 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 5: to come in and make sure that they want to 990 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 5: correct the mistakes that they made. So, you know, just 991 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 5: just got to just make sure you keep a calm 992 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 5: mind frame and just try to play with. 993 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: Your you know, making making the right decisions, get work done. 994 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 3: Yes, early, you played for a little program called North Shore. Okay, 995 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 3: we're familiar with it. We're familiar with their work. And 996 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 3: you played pro ball in Miami's Seattle too, right. But 997 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 3: San Francisco, So California, Florida, Texas and hotbeds for high 998 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 3: school football. I'm sure you have had conversations with so 999 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 3: many people about why check since football is the best 1000 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,240 Speaker 3: in high school. 1001 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? 1002 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 3: What are some of the compare and contrast conversations you've 1003 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 3: had with people about this stuff. 1004 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 5: Texas built toughness, I think, you know, you know a 1005 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 5: lot of people talk about Florida. I think they got 1006 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 5: speed down, but when it comes to just Texas, Uh, 1007 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 5: these players are way tough that the heat it really 1008 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 5: just just bears downs on us and uh, it. 1009 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 4: Just really just makes it separates us from everyone else. 1010 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Earl is such a joy to catch up with you. 1011 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 3: If you, me and Johnny are forming a singing group, 1012 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 3: you take the low. 1013 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: I'll take the like the baritone. The next level up. 1014 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 3: Johnny's got to sing high because no one else can 1015 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 3: do it here, I guess, so we'll do it anyway. 1016 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 3: It's it's always wonderful, my friend. Thanks a lot for 1017 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 3: being with us. 1018 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 4: Appreciate you. 1019 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: Now. I apologize because I took off like a shot 1020 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: right here in the end of that interview, because well 1021 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: it was one on one time and I had to 1022 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: get all the way over the field too for O 1023 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: line D line, So I was running like Forrest Gump 1024 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: trying to get over there. I got over there, couple 1025 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: of rests, but I got over there in. 1026 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 3: The rain, took some notes, struck my notebook, so I 1027 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 3: had to take notes on my phone and the rest 1028 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 3: of the day. 1029 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: But go Reid Harris hits and you could check that out. 1030 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 4: Hey. 1031 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 1: A couple of items, one in particular throughout the league 1032 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: to a tongue of Ia Looa gets his deal four years, 1033 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: two hundred and twelve million dollars. 1034 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 3: Well that's pretty good for four years fifty three apy 1035 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 3: somewhere in there. 1036 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: I believe that's what it is. So yeah, two hundred 1037 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: twelve million dollars and I believe one hundred. 1038 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 3: And sixty seven million guaranteed. That is the largest four 1039 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 3: year extension in the in NFL history because all the 1040 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 3: other deals have been five years. He gets a four year, 1041 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 3: So four years, two hundred and twelve million dollars to 1042 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 3: a tongue of I looa gets that deal done. 1043 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: Wow. Now we just wait on Jordan Love. Now we 1044 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 1: wait on Dak Prescott. It's been a lot of talk 1045 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: about Dak. 1046 00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 3: Being a sixty million dollars ap y. We'll see Tua 1047 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 3: gets fifty three over four years to. 1048 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: Stay with the Miami Dolphins. Man, think of quarterbacks that 1049 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: deserve noviy to a deserved Did I think I had numbers 1050 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: about right comparatively to what other guys have gotten? I 1051 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: suppose would rather have Tua than Trevor Lawrence? Would I 1052 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: rather have Tua than Dak Prescott? Man? Stuff, he's in that, 1053 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: He's in that mix, there's no question. And we'll see 1054 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: him December fifteenth at Energy Stadium with that big contract 1055 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: in toe. So that's gonna do it a big thanks 1056 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: to Mark for always being here. To Earl Mitchell for 1057 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: joining us. 1058 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 3: He was great, former Mustang, former Texan, former Arizona Wildcat 1059 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 3: as well. That's from my buddy Tommy and all of 1060 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 3: you for listening to everybody back in studio Sports Area 1061 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 3: six ten. 1062 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We'll see you on Monday. Practice 1063 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: on Sunday, so make sure you check out Harris hits 1064 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: Houston Texas dot com. 1065 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 3: We'll see you again on Monday. Everybody, thank you for 1066 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 3: being here and as always, go Texans