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Otherwise he'd be here. 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: Not literally, No, of course, I wouldn't say it true. 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 5: I think Bill might be back next year. 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Oh so you're you're on the washes all of a sudden. 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: So three weeks ago you would have said the same thing. 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 5: Uh. 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 6: I think it's a lot easier said than done to 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 6: look them in the face. 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 5: And fire up. 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 6: Well, absolutely, that's not the question though, No, but probably emotionally. 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: No, it's just so hard to be a team twice 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: within the same seasons. 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 4: Except for like the twenty years we did. It's a 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 4: buffalo pretty sure, right the shows on Zoom We're probably 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 4: were all coming, you know, talking about each other. 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I have to worry. Paul's not here today. 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 4: That's right. We're not gonna yell at us for doing 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: things wrong. 28 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: Nothing sadder than the holiday fill in host. 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: This is Patriot's Unfiltered. 30 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 7: Presented by Toyota's official website. For deals, buy a Toyota 31 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 7: dot com. 32 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here 33 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: at Jill's State. 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 5: Used that one yesterday too, Fred, Yeah, I used it. 35 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 5: I credited you, I said, right now, Fred's making fun 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 5: of me. 37 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 1: People on your program must wonder who is his friend 38 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: Fred that they mentioned every once in a while. Yeah. 39 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: Don't you like it that way? Though? 40 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 5: You get you get mentioned a lot for someone who's 41 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 5: never actually appeared on stage, right right. 42 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: Anyway, Uh, it's Deuce, it's Alex so she had a 43 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: good week. It's it's Evan, Paul, Fred Matt is back 44 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: back in the booth, Back in the booth. Yeah, so 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: everything's good. You're feeling better. 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 5: I'm hurting, but I'm in recovery. 47 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: You're hurting what any particular part of your body? I'm 48 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: sore just from all the vomiting. Oh really, Oh I 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: can see that. Wuld you lose the wretching. 50 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 5: Did you close your rings on? 51 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: Does throwing up count is closing your rings? I close 52 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: my rings every day. 53 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 5: So man, I'm really sorry to hear that. How is 54 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 5: how a lunch order coming? 55 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: He's just the. 56 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: Thought of your the pepperoni pizza that's about to get 57 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 4: back to work, back to work. 58 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 5: He won't eat anymore. So it's not it's not really 59 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 5: worth it. 60 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm on a diet. I'm not not as uh not as. 61 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 4: Dedicated to your diet. No, I lost the word focused 62 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 4: on losing weight. 63 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, not as aggressive as his diet whenever. 64 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 6: Anyway, you can need some wings in Buffalo with us, though. 65 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, bing all right? 66 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: Absolutely, by the way, Evan Evan's team boneless wing. 67 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 5: By the way, one hundred percent, there's no such thing. 68 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: Here we go chicken ten. 69 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 5: You had to. You just had to. 70 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 71 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: You just had These guys are like, well, the bone 72 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 4: makes it so. 73 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: Much, the bone makes it a wing. Otherwise it's just chicken. 74 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: That's fine, it's just a tender, all right. 75 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 5: We can just agree to disagree. 76 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: Okay, all right. 77 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 5: Now, if you're out you want to, you may be 78 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 5: gonna go out and get something to eat. Maybe you're 79 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 5: gonna stay out, go out, you know, you know, like 80 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 5: you Evan, you know, to the clubs. You know, maybe 81 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 5: you want that, you want the boneless because you don't 82 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 5: want to mess. 83 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: Right, But you guys don't find it off putting when 84 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: you get a chunk of cartilage in that bite, or 85 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: you know, you get some some tendon or. 86 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: Whatever in a real way, Well that's you. 87 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: Know, that's the chicken, right, Well, so is the chicken. 88 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: It's not processed. 89 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 6: I feel like we've done this like at least one 90 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 6: other time. And I went upstairs after the show and 91 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 6: just like six people came up to me and we're like, 92 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 6: that was such a bad take you had about wings. 93 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 6: Like you're so wrong about this, you know. Chris Cassidy 94 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 6: is like, yeah, all be my face about it. I'm 95 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 6: just look, I like boneless wings. I don't like the mess. 96 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 6: I like what I like. 97 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 5: Say that. 98 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can't like it. That's not the issue. 99 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: They're not wings, though, yes they are. They're buffalo tenders 100 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: or nuggets. 101 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 6: No, nuggets are definitely different. Nuggets are our little round things. 102 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: So these are the flats. 103 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: These are those flats are the wings? 104 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 6: Tenders are not tossed in the sauce. 105 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: They can be, they can be. 106 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: Why not, No, you don't have to tender. 107 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 6: That's a that's a boneless wing. You can just have 108 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 6: Like a tender is. 109 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Like buffalo tenders when you order hot tenders buffalo by 110 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: tossing it in the sauce. 111 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 5: When you order. 112 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 6: When you order tenders right at a restaurant, they bring 113 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 6: you plain chicken tenders. 114 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: Unless you say buffalo tenders. 115 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 6: No, if you say buffalo tenders, you're eating a boneless wing. 116 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: This guy we like to order around here. I think 117 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 5: it's called people something like that get boneless buffalo tenders 118 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 5: all the time. Well, that's that's wrong. I'm glad you're not. 119 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're not part of the collaborative draft process. 120 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: Wings are too large. 121 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 5: You're right. 122 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 6: I wouldn't take cold strange in the first round. 123 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: He's boneless. I don't know what that means. 124 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: Jo, was that, Alex? What did you say? 125 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: I said that, Like, it can't be a wing because 126 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: the piece of chicken is way too big to ever 127 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: come from the wing. It's a tenderlin. 128 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 4: You don't know where it's. 129 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: He's just he's just being he's being difficult. What else anyway? 130 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: All right, Patriots, what do we got? We got Remandre 131 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: Stephen officially be being put on i R to make 132 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: room for about his son. 133 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they had to get a cornerback in. 134 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 5: Well, you said form Andre Stephen. You know, so what 135 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 5: about I. 136 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: Saw Steven was probably talking about. 137 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: I don't think you did. 138 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: Maybe Chris cast that. 139 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 6: He just texted me, by the way, telling me that 140 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 6: my wing takes are terrible. 141 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: He's right, and look at him no food. Oh, come on, 142 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: it's a big guy. I mean big. 143 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: That's twice in like a week. 144 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: He's a large human being. You're a bully. Yeah. 145 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 4: So they signed uh Marco Wilson uh claim claim for him. 146 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 4: So there, everybody knows their their cornback depth has been 147 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: a little bit spotty and uh you know, so they 148 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: got some depth and I think three other teams put 149 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: claims to other teams, but they got him. 150 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 5: He played a little bit in Arizona. 151 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so thrown him into the mix with you know, 152 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 4: Breon Borders. What you got no trash? 153 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: So are we worried about the health of Jonathan Jones 154 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: going into this game because he was banged up as. 155 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, he was he didn't play the full he's not 156 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 6: even on the report. 157 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Okay, all right. 158 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 6: I would be more worried about Jalen Mills. Yeah he 159 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 6: is who's in concussions. 160 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 4: But was, but was in the locker room was a 161 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 4: practice kind of just watching, not not ess or anything, 162 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 4: which I mean, maybe it's a sign that perhaps he 163 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 4: could clear and go. But I think the big takeaway 164 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 4: we talked about yesterday in the locker room is very 165 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: upbeat and yeah, you know a lot of guys were 166 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: We're feeling it. A lot of you know, members of 167 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: the media. Nice job to Chad Ryland, which I never 168 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: quite can like put. 169 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 5: That, like people in the media were going up to 170 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 5: Chad Ryland telling him a nice job. 171 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 6: When you say people, well we'll talk off air. Yeah, 172 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 6: people in the media is a loose term. 173 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not supposed to be in the locker room 174 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: unless you're part of the media. 175 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but you're really not supposed to be like 176 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 5: so proud of you. Man. I made that rooting or 177 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 5: rooting like you're supposed to sort of be. 178 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: I know this is going to bring us down a tangent, 179 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: but I was thinking about that same thing, Paul when 180 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: we were coming into the industry, you and I at 181 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: our age, at our young age. The guys who were 182 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: already on the beat, they weren't fans. They maybe they 183 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: got into this business because they like sports and they 184 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: wanted to write about sports. But they didn't get into 185 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: this business because they were Patriots fans. 186 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 5: And a lot of those guys really wanted the team 187 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 5: to win. 188 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: Well it's better for their job. 189 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, well but but they friend's right, they didn't like 190 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 5: just openly. 191 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: But I feel like a lot of people nowadays and Evan, 192 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: no disrespect intended or or duce. But you got into 193 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: it because you love the Patriots. 194 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 5: You know, this is what we've done for everybody. 195 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: And you know that used to not be the motivation. 196 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: You got into this business because you wanted to be 197 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: a journalist and you wanted to and you like sports, 198 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: so I want to be a sports journalist. But that 199 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: seems to have changed. 200 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 3: That was like the number one of the first sports 201 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: journalism class I took. The first thing. My professor said, 202 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: no cheering in the press box. 203 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 6: Well yeah, well yeah, I mean I don't cheer in 204 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 6: the press. 205 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 5: But like figuratively speaking, don't don't cheer in the press boxes. 206 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 5: Don't cheer in the locker room either. 207 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: The thing to be taken literally. It was just like 208 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: my professor's way of saying, like, don't be a fanboy. 209 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: Exactly I would. 210 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 6: I knew that I wanted to be in the history, 211 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 6: like from a really young age, Like I used to 212 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 6: watch like Around the Horn and PTI and listen to 213 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 6: the radio and like I remember asking my dad like 214 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 6: what what what is Tony Kornheiser, Like what what does 215 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 6: he do? And my dad was like, he's a columnist, 216 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 6: Like he writes for the Washington Post. And I was like, well, 217 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 6: that's what I want to do with my life. I 218 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 6: don't want to do that. And but I cover the Patriots, 219 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 6: and I don't think that I could cover another team 220 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 6: as passionately as I covered the Patriots, Because. 221 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 5: I think you could. I grew up here. I really do. 222 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: I think you might. I think you might need to 223 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: cover another team better. 224 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're you're like passion for breaking down film. 225 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 5: I don't think that it matters like who the individuals are. 226 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 5: I think you're selling yourself short. Well. I appreciate that. Yeah, 227 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 5: I'm serious. I think you could do that for any 228 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 5: and yeah, that's true. I guess you just. 229 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: Might not have that much background knowledge of that. 230 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 6: I just I feel like that, you know, right, I 231 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 6: just like I wanted to cover the Patriots because I 232 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 6: grew up twenty minutes from here, But I I definitely 233 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 6: wanted to be in media first, like that was my 234 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 6: bigger I'm. 235 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: Not sure that's the case with a lot of people. 236 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a lot of people have similar stories, 237 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 5: but yeah, it is. I think it's it's odd and 238 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 5: it's different because when we grew up for it, we 239 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 5: didn't have all of these titles when we were when 240 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 5: we were kids, and and this generation they have all 241 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 5: these titles to fall back. You did because whenever team won, 242 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 5: you were what do you mean? 243 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, like. 244 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: Creator. You know when when Evan was deciding that he 245 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 5: wanted to be like Tony Kornheiser, that the teams around 246 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 5: here were all pretty successful and winning championships, when I 247 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 5: cause I had a very similar kind of story. I 248 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 5: wanted to Like I always told people, I wanted to 249 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 5: have my little picture in the Globe and as a columnist, 250 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 5: and that was what I always wanted to do. But 251 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 5: the teams weren't winning championships all the time. So it 252 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 5: wasn't because they in all the time there were my teams. 253 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 5: I don't know if I could cover other teams as 254 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 5: passionately as I cover. 255 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 6: I would definitely say, like there's no doubt about it 256 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 6: that if Tom Brady did not exist, I don't know 257 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 6: if I would be covering football like that, like he 258 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 6: may made me fall in love. 259 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: For me, Like it wasn't journalism. I wanted to go 260 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: into publishing. I like putting things together, like products, you know, 261 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: whether it's a newspaper, magazines. That's what I wanted to do. 262 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: Was football your biggest pasion though growing up? 263 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: No? No, No, Tennis? 264 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I love the origin stories. 265 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 4: Evans previewl You know, no, I definitely wouldn't have the 266 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: same you know, ability to just talk about like the 267 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: eight season or you know, like all the history of 268 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 4: the team that you know, those those games are so memorabile. 269 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: You're perfectly suited to work for a team. 270 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but you know, like, look, I mean, 271 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: I like my biggest thing, I never want to be 272 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: unprofessional in the locker room, and you know, it's it 273 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 4: would be easy as a member of the team media 274 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: to just be like buddy, buddy with that, But I don't, 275 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: I don't cross those lines. Like it's just you know, 276 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: I just I think it's more respect for what the 277 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 4: real journalists do in respecting the profession, and you know, like. 278 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 6: This jealous of people like that, Like I I feel like, 279 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 6: you know, you know, you know, Tony Cornhis is the 280 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 6: example that came to my mind, But like the other 281 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 6: one is Jackie Mack, who I just think is just 282 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 6: unreal and I liked, I wish I could write like that, 283 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like she and those types 284 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 6: of people that you guys are talking about that were 285 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 6: on the beat, like before you know, the. 286 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 5: Everything happened, Like those people I feel. 287 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 6: Like were such great storytellers and I don't feel like 288 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 6: we have enough of that now, like where people are 289 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 6: truly telling. 290 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: And back then there was also a very clear division 291 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: between the beat writers and the columnists. Yeah, and rarely 292 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: did the two cross. Yeah, you know, like you were 293 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, once you became a columnist, it was your 294 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: opinion right based on facts hopefully, but a beat writer 295 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: just the facts, man, right, you know, So it was different, 296 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: but now there's it's blurred. 297 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 5: That's a great point. And I also think that you said, 298 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 5: we don't have as many storytellers, and I think that 299 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: part of the reason for that is the relationships aren't 300 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 5: the same, you know, between the athletes and the people 301 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: who cover them for a lot of different reasons. But 302 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 5: I also think in this particular case, like there's not 303 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 5: there's like more of an emphasis on just being around 304 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 5: the team and like diving into it as opposed to reporting. 305 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: Well, there's no need anymore, right, So, really, as much. 306 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 5: You don't need to be here, you don't need you know, 307 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 5: you can just get on a blog and write and 308 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 5: you don't necessarily need the actor, so you don't know 309 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 5: the people that you're writing about, Whereas like Jackie McMullen 310 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 5: and you know, Bob Bryan. There's a million examples, but 311 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: they are great storytellers because they had great relationships with 312 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 5: the people they covered for your years and years. The 313 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 5: one of the most amazing things that I and I'm 314 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 5: not lying and Fred you'll remember this, Charles Barkley was 315 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 5: at a game. It was a night game here in Foxboro. 316 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 5: He came to a game. Then remember he told us 317 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 5: he was right by the way. Now y'all going to suck, 318 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: you know, when when when Tom had build Me so 319 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 5: he was here and Jackie Mack was covering that game 320 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 5: that night. He was a little you know, I think 321 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 5: you've probably had a few. And he picked Jackie mcmullona 322 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 5: like he gave her a hug, picked her up and 323 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 5: was like walking in the locker room with her. And 324 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 5: then she got really mad. She's like, you put me down. 325 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 5: You can't do that like that. It just showed you 326 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 5: the relationship that she has with this guy. 327 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: She was like, I remember covering the Celtics. I was, 328 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: oh my god, I was so young, but my first 329 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: year covering in a Celtics I was like, but I 330 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: was like twenty two, my first year covering the Celtics. 331 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: Like two. 332 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: Anyways, aient I just saw Jackie Mack walk onto the 333 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: court pregame and just like sit down next to Kyrie Irving, who, 334 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: like everyone knows, was so bipolar at that point, but 335 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: his face would light up. He was like a different 336 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: person to talking to Jackie. And it was just so 337 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: cool to see because I mean, unlike you guys, I 338 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: respect the hell out of her. 339 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: She's a little Karen Karen. 340 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 5: Karen has it too. It's it's a reporter's chops that 341 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 5: I don't think a lot of people, let alone don't 342 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 5: have I don't think that, Yeah, I don't think they 343 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 5: try to develop. 344 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: Them and they're earned there because they're earned, you don't 345 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: just have Kevin. 346 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: Like it was unbelievable the way Kevin would like rip 347 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 5: the players when they needed to be ripped, But he'd 348 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 5: go in the locker room and they'd be like, hey, Kevy. 349 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: Well he had the man's report card and he'd give 350 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: guys f's and then he'd show up in the locker 351 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: room the next day and sometimes they. 352 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 5: Confront him John Hannah but had a hard time, but 353 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 5: he never backed down. 354 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 6: But I feel like that's like when you were talking 355 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 6: about columnists and beat reporters being separate. I think that's 356 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 6: a big part of it with the relationship with the 357 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 6: players is you know a lot of guys it's all 358 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 6: over social media now too, and like guys pay attention 359 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 6: to what we're saying about them. And I think that 360 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 6: there's a little bit of a guard up with with 361 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 6: a lot of yea because I know, like, oh, like, 362 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 6: am I really gonna be nice to this guy when 363 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 6: yesterday he was calling me stink stanks stunk. Sorry, you know, 364 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 6: like like that that sort of thing. And I feel 365 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 6: like because it's so prevalent on social media now, like 366 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 6: all these guys pay attention. Like that's one thing that 367 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 6: I've noticed to like, especially now that I work for 368 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: the team, Like they they all know what I write 369 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 6: about them. Yeah, and like for better or worse, Like 370 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 6: that's just you know, and. 371 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: You know, like IFS is playing two roles, he's like 372 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: covering a beat and he's going on TV and right, 373 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: and that's that's tough to do without you know, losing. 374 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 5: He's one of the few that does it the right way. 375 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about that, but like I don't 376 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: think like if you're going to report on a team 377 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: and be I don't think you should be calling guys 378 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: stink stank, stunk. 379 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 5: What do you mean? Like that's not fair, that's achieve 380 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 5: He works for like an independent he doesn't want the 381 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 5: NFL network anymore. 382 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: No, but he's the Patriots guy for clinics, right or whatever. 383 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 5: For what Boston sports journals. It's an independent website. They're not. 384 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 5: It's not not like the beat writer. 385 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: No, but he is the guy that, yes, he is 386 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: for the for sports. 387 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: They don't have beat writers. It's just like some random website. 388 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: But he's the guy who covers the Patriots right. 389 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 5: Like as a beat, no conjunction, like it's all it's 390 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 5: all columns. He writes columns every day already Colon like 391 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 5: they put him on Twitter every day. 392 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: But he's not the one that reports the news of 393 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots. 394 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 5: They don't. They're not a news organization. 395 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: I think they would differ. 396 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 5: I don't all right, I think they're giving you analysis. 397 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 5: I think it's an analysis organization. I think Greg's bread 398 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 5: and butter is Evan All twenty two. I don't think 399 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 5: they're looking for news. 400 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: Well, they have different guys with different you know, things 401 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: that they. 402 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 5: I don't think that's I'm not being disrespectful of the 403 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 5: Boston sports journal I don't think that they're Globe. I 404 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 5: don't think they're trying to be the Boston Globe with 405 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 5: the Boston Herald and trying to break news. I think 406 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 5: that they I think they're trying to cover the team, yes, 407 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 5: but not that way. 408 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: I think they. 409 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 5: Wanted to beat right. 410 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: I think they want to be a destination for any 411 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: of the teams that they cover. For Here's where you 412 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: come to get your news about the Patriots or the 413 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: Celtics or whatever. 414 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 6: And when I need the ALL twenty two, I go 415 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 6: to Evan. 416 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. Right, But I just think, well, I think we're 417 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 5: saying the same thing, but we think it's different things. 418 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 5: That's all. 419 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: I think. 420 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 4: It's the heart of what the debate is about new 421 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 4: media and you know, the ability of blogs. 422 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 5: I's right, I agree. 423 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: I think to me, it's one thing when when Shaughnessy 424 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: does his column and he's taken his making his jabs 425 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: and everything. But I think when you're covering the team, 426 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: you need to be fair and not take cheap shots. 427 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, i'd agree with that. 428 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 429 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 6: I got a funny text from from Greg. That's why 430 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 6: I said, you get the All twenty two from Evan 431 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 6: because we have the same source of All twenty two. 432 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 6: And around the holidays, the guy kind of goes m 433 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 6: I a a little bit, and so Greg he texted 434 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 6: me and he's like, this guy kills me every year 435 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 6: around the holidays. And I was like, yeah, I know, 436 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 6: you got to use game pass and he's like, I 437 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 6: won't do it. It's like I don't know what to 438 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 6: tell you. 439 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: Well, All twenty two is all twenty two though it's 440 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: the same angle. 441 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 5: Right yeah, oh you silly. 442 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 6: But the one that we get is like ten ADP 443 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 6: like high call. 444 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a better question. 445 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 446 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 6: And you can download the file directly to your computer. Okay, 447 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 6: so it makes it easier to cut it out, gotcha, Yeah. 448 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 5: Okay, competing I love it. 449 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: Wow, that's a lot off of just cha. 450 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 5: We break into those journalism talks everyone. I think Fred's 451 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 5: point about the the blurred lines is. 452 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I us sitting here, it's a good 453 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 4: cross representation of you know, I would say I'm probably 454 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 4: the most extreme of of all of it. I mean, 455 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: alex Is, I mean, I never took a sports journalism class, 456 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 4: and you know, Evan's kind of dabbled where he has 457 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 4: some background, but he's also written regular stuff. I mean, 458 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 4: you guys are you know, old school and you know 459 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: the traditional kind of columnists, journalists like Mike Reese is 460 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: you know, considered one of the best covering the Patriots, 461 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: you know, in terms of thoroughness and all that, and 462 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 4: he's always been and you know, just reporting the news, 463 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: you know, he'll throw in a little nugget there, you know, 464 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: kind of like what does he know, but he'll make 465 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: it like he'll make it clear that it's just it's, 466 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 4: you know, something he's just thinking about. 467 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: It's speculation. But lately he's been going more and more 468 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: on the radio, And when you're on the radio, they 469 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: don't want just you know, down the middle, they want 470 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: your opinion. 471 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 4: Well, the Trent Brown the way he wrote, Trent Brown 472 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 4: absent from practice they today, which was an illness. So 473 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: take from that what you will. But I will say, 474 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: like I'm just so impressed with Mike's relentlessness, Like he 475 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 4: just I mean hare he is posting the numbers of 476 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: the new guy they just got this morning. I mean, 477 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 4: we talk a lot about Look, the Patriots don't have 478 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: a great season, and it will be easy to kind 479 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 4: of mail it in a little bit here down at 480 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: the end. But he just keeps doing what he does 481 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: no matter what it is. And I mean, I know 482 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: Paul's has a lot of interactions with him. 483 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 5: I love this season. The reason's gone on I've ever 484 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 5: worked with. 485 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 4: But he's a little rattled, right, Like rattled. 486 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think I keep telling him, I don't 487 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 5: think he's handling covering a bad team. 488 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I love Mike, and he's like one of 489 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 6: those people that I'm like, if I'm here as often 490 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 6: as Mike Ree is here, then I'm doing it right right, 491 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 6: Like I just like I'm always and he always talks 492 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 6: to me and Alex and he is like, he's like, 493 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 6: you guys like try to always like beat me here 494 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 6: and stuff like that. And I'm like, yeah, because you're 495 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 6: like the gold standard. Like if we're if we're covering 496 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 6: the team as much as you cover the team, then 497 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 6: we're doing it right. 498 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 3: Well, you would have to go to community events for 499 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: that time, look at right till a year into your ten. 500 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: But he I mean, we have you for I'm not saying. 501 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Mike is not covering the community events, 502 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: but the reason he really goes is because that's sometimes 503 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: where you get the best access. 504 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 5: Well he also. 505 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: But like you know, the guy is like, hey, thanks 506 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: for coming to my event. I'll give you five minutes, 507 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: you know. 508 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's not necessarily for the five minutes. It's 509 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: the relationship. And it gets back to this is why 510 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 5: we don't have these storytellers anymore, because no one really 511 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 5: cares about developing relationships. 512 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also it's not really intantized from your employer anymore. 513 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: I mean, rememberhen the athletic came to town, and that 514 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: was going to be their shtick, like they're going back 515 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: to real columns and long form features and all this, 516 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 3: And how long did it last before their editors were saying, wait, actually, 517 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: let's write some practice reports, let's write these clickbait headlines. 518 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: And it just kind of fell right back to where 519 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 3: it was. But it's what they tried to. 520 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: Do, and yeah, yeah, all right, eight five to five. 521 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: PATS five hundred is the a stick and outline web 522 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com is the email address. We 523 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: had our first practice yesterday. We get that report. Any 524 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: other Patriots news that we need to know before we 525 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: open it up to the phone lines. 526 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: Peppers out? 527 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, no Peppers, Trent Brown and obviously no Ramandre who 528 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 6: was placed on injured reserve. So I guess maybe that 529 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 6: it's a little bit of Patriots news is out for 530 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 6: the season. We did see Jalen Mills. Always my favorite 531 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 6: when we're like, is that him like sitting on the bench, 532 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 6: like yeah, well we're like on the other side of 533 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 6: the field. Yeah, he was there. Jalen Mills spectator and 534 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 6: I'm also I had a great conversation with Ivan Fears, 535 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 6: who was who was also there. Yeah, he's always yeah smoking. 536 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 6: It should be taking up smoking a nice Stokes smoking 537 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 6: a Stogy outside the bubble. 538 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 5: And I walked up to him. I was like, what 539 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: a g G? 540 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 4: All right, were you guys ever in the press box 541 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: when guys would smoke in. 542 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 5: The press pod? Yeah, oh my god, man, George Kimball, 543 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: you had to go in the back. 544 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 4: The old State Never, No, I never, like never school stadium. 545 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that on the whole, these guys 546 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: are in better shape. 547 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 5: Than they used to be. 548 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: I know, what was the average lifespan? 549 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 5: That's the one compliment. 550 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: All these guys. They didn't take care of themselves, not 551 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: at all. 552 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 4: But but no, but but the bigger point was just good, 553 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: good vibes in the locker room, probably better than all years. 554 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: So what does it mean? I don't know, but I. 555 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 6: Did that was I mean, obviously after you win a 556 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 6: game in Denver, that that you're going to be excited. 557 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 6: But the locker room between postgame Denver than today yesterday, 558 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 6: when guys were talking, guys, we were happy to talk 559 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 6: to media, which is pretty rare. 560 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 5: You know like it was. 561 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 6: It was a it was a lively locker room for it. 562 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 6: Why do you think that is a couple of wins? 563 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 6: I guess. 564 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 1: Okay, so we've been in locker rooms where they've had 565 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: a couple of wins before, but it's not always like that, 566 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: even in better times. 567 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. 568 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 6: I was trying to think about it yesterday and I, 569 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 6: you know, afterwards, and I, I don't know. 570 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: Do you think some of it's for show, just to 571 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: kind of showcase. 572 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: You can sense the vibes are down, you can sense authetic. Yeah, 573 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: And for some reason, I feel I don't know, maybe 574 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: it's ever since Germany, I feel like for whatever reason, 575 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 3: it's been kind of light in there. And I don't know, 576 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: I give them a lot of credit for the way 577 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: the locker room has been despite everything. 578 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 4: I just like going into Buffalo kind of being loose. 579 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 4: And I mean, you heard the Bills talk yesterday, Josh 580 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: Allen saying, you know, this is a team that's like 581 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: loose and they're not. You know, they're gonna come in here, 582 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 4: look going to ruin our playoff hopes, and you know 583 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 4: we're expecting them to come in and play hard. So 584 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 4: That's what I'm kind of expecting. 585 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: I are you? Are we expecting a good game? 586 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 4: I kind of am. I think the Bills will pull away, 587 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 4: you know. I just I think they got too much. 588 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 4: That's I've seen too much of Josh Allen to think 589 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 4: they could do with two in a row. But I 590 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 4: don't know. My feelings is gonna be surprisingly closed through 591 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: the first half and you know, into the third quarter 592 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 4: and then I feel like winning time Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs. 593 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 4: They start to kick in the gear and you know 594 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 4: they pull away. 595 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: But will it be a game that eventually has a 596 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: name like Harper's Muff the win game? 597 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: I mean probably only if the Patriots win. If the 598 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 4: Patriots win, maybe, but it's hard to see like a sappy. 599 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 5: One the Bills should win. 600 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 4: And I don't know, it's hard to see a game 601 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 4: going as it should have gone, you know, I mean, 602 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 4: what are they favored by twelve points or something crazy 603 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 4: like that. Like, I mean, but if it was an upset, maybe, 604 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: you know, maybe if there's a big play something like that. 605 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, I I almost feel like the pressure being so 606 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 6: much off the Patriots and the players is maybe what's 607 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 6: contributing the most to the mood right now is just like, 608 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 6: all right, we were not making the playoffs, like we 609 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 6: had a bad season, but at this point we got 610 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 6: to finish out the string. And I feel like maybe 611 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 6: that's part of it. With Zappy a little bit too, 612 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 6: is just like what pressure does he really have? All 613 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 6: he first of all he's got to do is be 614 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 6: better than mac Jones, which like that bar wasn't very high. 615 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 6: And then secondly, it's not like anything's really on the line, 616 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 6: Like if he loses, then the fans are happy about 617 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 6: it because they lost, and if he wins, then like 618 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 6: it's good for him. 619 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: So I think you're right. I had a conversation with 620 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: Tavia's girlfriend a couple of weeks ago around Christmas, and 621 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: she was just telling me how frustrated he would come 622 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: home during the season, and then once you start to 623 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 3: really get out of it, he kind of had a 624 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: different mentality where he was like, Okay, I can play 625 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 3: more free and I'm really kind of playing not for myself, 626 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: but I'm still trying to make a name for myself here. 627 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: And ever since then, he's just been in great moods 628 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: and he's been having such a great season, and I 629 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: wonder if that translates to the rest of the locker 630 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 3: room too. 631 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, just two weeks left too. 632 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: How much credit does Belichick get for this mood? 633 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't. I mean, I just I kind 634 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: of credit the players. They got the win, and you know, 635 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: I think they're kind of reaping or you know, reaping 636 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 4: what they sowed in terms of getting a victory. So 637 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 4: I don't know, but I mean, it's certainly not a 638 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 4: depressed and scary place, so I guess a little bit 639 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 4: of credit. But I think it really comes down to, 640 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: you know, players just making the big plays when they 641 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 4: had to, and I think that's probably got to be 642 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 4: a little bit satisfying for them. But you know, it's 643 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 4: still it's just it was such a up and down performance, 644 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: and it's it's kind of easy to remember, you know, 645 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: the big throat to Parker or you know, the touchdown 646 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 4: to Gasiki or you know, of course rylance Field. Yeah, 647 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 4: but you know, and you kind of forget about how 648 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 4: we missed two kicks, and you know, there were there 649 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: were some problems there, I mean, the defense giving up 650 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 4: those two clutch drives there, and in the fourth it 651 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 4: seemed like the momentum was all on the other side. 652 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 4: So we're kind of sweeping all that stuff under the 653 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 4: rug right now, and we'll see if it comes to 654 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 4: back to bite them in Buffalo. If they can, I 655 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 4: think they got to eliminate a bunch of those mistakes 656 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 4: if they are realistically to have a chance. 657 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 6: I think you have to give him credit for like, 658 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 6: there's a lot of competitors still in that in that 659 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 6: locker room, you know, like guys obviously like the old timers, 660 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 6: like a David Andrews is number one, but there's still 661 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 6: you know, even some of those younger guys, you know, 662 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 6: Christian Barmore goes out there, has the game of his life. 663 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 6: Like that guy's obviously trying, Like it's not like he's 664 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 6: you know, let go of the rope because they're four 665 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 6: and eleven. So I think that's a good thing just 666 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 6: from a long term point of view of the team 667 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 6: going into next year, is that they that's not a 668 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 6: locker room of losers. Like there's a lot of guys 669 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 6: in there that really care about this and put a 670 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 6: lot into it and care about winning. 671 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 4: Nice Barber was funny. We heard him went down and 672 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: heard him talk today. He then realized was such a 673 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 4: big Chris Jones fan. Studies Chris Jones a lot, and 674 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 4: he said he got a jersey from Chris Jones. He's like, 675 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 4: I almost cried. That's kind of funny. But he's watched 676 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: a lot of. 677 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: Chris Jones film. Before we open it up, just want 678 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: to say congratulations to Rodney Harrison got to the final 679 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: fifteen for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But a 680 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: tough class crossed. 681 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: You'd love to see him get in. But I'm like, 682 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 4: even if I were a voter, it's I mean, there's 683 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 4: a lot of really really good players that work. Yeah, 684 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 4: it's a good generation superstars and yeah, you know what, 685 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 4: we'll we'll see. I mean, it's a good sign. He 686 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 4: made it to the finals here in his third time. 687 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 4: But I don't know, I have I have a hard time, 688 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 4: like how many did they? Is there set number of 689 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 4: how many actually gets to come in? Five guys? Yeah, yeah, 690 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: that's gonna be a tough one. 691 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: Does it have to be five? It can be less, right. 692 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, but it can't be. I don't know about that, 693 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 6: but I know five is the max? 694 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: Right, can't be more than five? 695 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 6: Right, It's just tough, Like with guys like Rodney, because 696 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 6: now you guys start like Antonio Gates right his first 697 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 6: year on the ballot, so like those guys start to 698 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 6: come up. But because Rodney like missed it when he 699 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 6: probably should have gone in, now all these first ballot 700 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 6: guys are starting, you know, it just kind of pushes 701 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 6: him further further further down the list. But usually when 702 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 6: guys get to the fight, like, it's a good sign 703 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 6: that he got to the final list list, and that 704 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 6: usually means event like if there's like a weaker class 705 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 6: or something like that, they'll make good on the guys 706 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 6: that kind of slipped through the cracks like Rodney. 707 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 4: Like and Andre Johnson, Patrick Willis, I mean he's got 708 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 4: I mean, no disrespect to Rodney for but I mean, 709 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 4: you know, those guys were really good for for a 710 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 4: long time. I mean, I don't know, Devin Hester was one. 711 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, I would probab maybe go 712 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 4: Roddy over Devin Hester. 713 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, I have I don't want to get into 714 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: my issues with this whole thing, but anyway, let's let's hope. 715 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 5: What are your issues with the whole thing. 716 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: I just you know, it shouldn't be like, oh, he 717 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: didn't get in, so we'll make good down the road. 718 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: If a guy deserves to be in the hall, you 719 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: should just get in the hall. 720 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 5: I can't stand the minimums and maximums. 721 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, like if eight guys are hall worthy, eight 722 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: guys should go in. 723 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't like really Hall of Fame period. But 724 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 5: all right, there's no there's no perfect way to do it. 725 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: Eight five five pats five hundred is these taken outline 726 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: web radio at pages dot com. Is the email address us. 727 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: Let's open it up because we do have picks today, 728 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: so we have to hurry. Anthony's in Seattle. What's up 729 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: Anthony's pray with some of my people. 730 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 8: Hey guys, I've got a couple of things I wanted 731 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 8: to address, if I may. One, I wanted to this 732 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 8: this sudden divisiveness we have as as fans, and then 733 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 8: the other thing. I just had a suple quick just 734 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 8: a quick thought on Zappy. But first off, suddenly it's 735 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 8: been brought up a few times on this show where 736 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 8: you know, suddenly it's if you anybody who who wants 737 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 8: wants to tank is not a real fan. And if 738 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 8: you recall, I mean I thought we were winning the 739 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 8: Super Bowl at the beginning of this season, and then 740 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 8: you get to a certain point in the season where 741 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 8: you want to win, but then there's like a tipping 742 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 8: point where it's like, okay, well it doesn't help us 743 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 8: to win anymore. So full disposure. Yeah, I mean, I'm 744 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 8: on I'm on Tank. You know I'm on Tank watch. 745 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 8: But I mean, here's the thing. If if, if you're 746 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 8: someone who still wants, you know, to win, I'm not 747 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 8: going to tell you you're not a real fan because 748 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 8: you you don't know what's the best interest of the team. Listen, 749 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 8: if you're still watching and rooting for the Patriots one 750 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 8: way or another, you're rooting for him to win right now, 751 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 8: or you're rooting for them to tank because you want 752 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 8: him to win later, you're rooting for the best int 753 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 8: of the team. If you're still watching, you still have 754 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 8: vested interests in the Patriots, you are a real fan. 755 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 8: It's us versus those fans who suddenly I've heard it 756 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 8: a couple of times. You know, some people call them 757 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 8: the show or emailing the show. I know a couple 758 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 8: of people personally suddenly those fans who oh, well, I 759 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 8: only watched one game this year. Those guys, Okay, did 760 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 8: you guys only watch one or two games when Brady 761 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 8: was a quarterback and we were winning twelve games a year. 762 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 8: It's us versus those quote unquote fans where oh, okay, 763 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 8: that's a little suspicious. You know, those are the ones 764 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 8: that I would question if those are real fans. But 765 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 8: the ones who are we're still watching and supporting the 766 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 8: team one way or another every week. We're all real fans. 767 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 8: And this this thing where you know, I don't want 768 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 8: to go down the guy. I got one more thing 769 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 8: about Zabie and I don't want to hold up the show, 770 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 8: but we're all fans. Let's just And the thing about 771 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 8: Zaffi is Fred kind of alluded alluded to it a 772 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 8: little bit, and I don't know, I feel like Evan 773 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 8: and Paul kind of have been have been dismissive of it. 774 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 8: And I didn't think i'd even say this, but I 775 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 8: think the conversation as he's at least opened up the 776 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 8: conversation of him getting a chance to start next year. 777 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 9: I don't think. 778 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 8: I don't think listen, I think we need a quarterback, 779 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 8: but I think there's a there is a pretty big 780 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 8: difference where the kid has now got us kind of 781 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 8: playing winning football, where having a guy who stands still 782 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 8: and takes a stack and sets up third and eighteen 783 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 8: as opposed to a guy who avoids pressure, takes a 784 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 8: checkdown and gets five yards and sets up third and five. 785 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 8: That is a big difference. And then he's occasionally making 786 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 8: an off platform play and like the touchdown to Gooseki, 787 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 8: those are plays that that Matt can't make. So you know, 788 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 8: if we get in a position to get a say 789 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 8: a Marvin Harrison and and maybe some offensive line and 790 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 8: surround him with some talent, I think, you know, I 791 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 8: think the conversation is kind of open for maybe seeing 792 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 8: what Zappy can bring to this team. He's only started 793 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 8: six games in the NFL, and. 794 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: All right, thanks Anthony. Listen, if za Be closes the 795 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: season out with two wins and does it and actually 796 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: contributes to the win, like he's one of the reasons 797 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: why they won, I think you're gonna hear a groundswell 798 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: of people like, let him compete for the starting job. 799 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 5: Compete is I'm fine with I don't. 800 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: I don't mean hand it to him. 801 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 5: I just think that. 802 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 6: And it's not like to take shots at Anthony, but 803 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 6: like if your bar is better than mac Jones and 804 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 6: the bar is not high enough, right, Like. 805 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 5: So like this much better than mac Jones, right, And. 806 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 6: So to sit here and say, like our our only 807 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 6: bar of like who should be the starter for the 808 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 6: Patriots next year or beyond, is well, he's better than 809 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 6: mac Jones. 810 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: Was No, that's not the measuring stick. 811 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 6: Right, So, like saying that about Zappi is not really 812 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 6: I don't think like the big like win that for me, if. 813 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: You would have to close out the season really well, 814 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 3: like great passing performances, It's not. 815 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 5: A lot better than four games that he's played, for sure. 816 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I can make I could get on board 817 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: with that. Maybe not, like if he competes for the 818 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 3: role and then he's just still that bridge as we're 819 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 3: adding other important pieces to the team that aren't necessarily 820 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: a quarterback. 821 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 6: I'm just not I can't get He would have to 822 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 6: really blow us away in the last two weeks of 823 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 6: the season for me to take quarterback in the first 824 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 6: round off the table. Yeah, Like that would have to 825 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 6: be really really unreal, like puts up forty five against 826 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 6: Buffalo or something like that for me to sit here 827 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 6: and say, oh, you know, Drake may forget it, like 828 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 6: we don't need Drake may like you know, like that 829 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 6: sort of thing. 830 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: But you're not gonna get him. 831 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 6: But if you, if you like said to me that 832 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 6: their plan next year was like Bailey Zappy with Pennix 833 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 6: or Bailey Zappy with bow Knicks or like one of 834 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 6: these guys that's not gonna be a top five pick 835 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 6: in the draft. Am I like jumping for joy about it? 836 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 5: No? 837 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 6: But like I'm not gonna necessarily kill him for it either. 838 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 6: I just think that it would have to you'd have 839 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 6: to still have that that rookie. 840 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: Then I think to pin your hopes on Bailey ZAPPI 841 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: would be kind of foolish. Yeah, but but I think 842 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: there's a way for him to earn a shot at it, 843 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. 844 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I just think it's valuable to have 845 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 4: quarterbacks who are at least like a component, you know. 846 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 4: I mean, they don't really have anybody, and I don't 847 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 4: I don't know what's gonna happen with Mac Jones. I 848 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 4: just I think that's one of the most interesting things 849 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 4: to me is is do they get rid of him? 850 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 4: Does he ask out? Does you know what that? I 851 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 4: mean to me, it's just Bailly's appie will be here 852 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 4: I think in the summer. Like, I don't, I don't 853 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 4: see the reason why you would be eager to get 854 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 4: rid of him. 855 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: Anthony's other point about the division, you know, like people, Yeah. 856 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 4: People can do whatever they want. I mean, I think 857 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 4: it's Matthew disagrees. Well. 858 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: He's writing in from New Mexico. He says people complaining 859 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: about our draft position should stop watching and rooting for 860 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots. They should stop watching football for a decade, 861 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: cry more and cry louder. Please, it's just football. 862 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 4: Who cares? I mean, you can root however you want. 863 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 4: I just thought he was interesting where on one hand 864 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 4: he said he was rooting the Tank, but he was 865 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 4: also on the opption of keeping Zappy, which usually I 866 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 4: feel like the people who are pro Tank are pro. 867 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: I think both sides are fans. Yeah one, you know 868 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 1: you're both, you're both fans. 869 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 5: I don't like to tell people how to think. Yeah, 870 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 5: but politicians do that enough. 871 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's I mean, I just I it's 872 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 4: a hard experience as a fan to like, I don't 873 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 4: know if you're if you're really in your heart of hearts, 874 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 4: like really rooting for the Broncos last week. I mean 875 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 4: we literally like you know that, that to me is 876 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 4: a little strange, Like I just I have it in 877 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 4: me when I'm in see the Patriots against the Broncos, 878 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 4: no matter the setup that, you know, I want the 879 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 4: Patriots to win. Like that's but you know, people can 880 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 4: do what they want. I don't care. 881 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: Let's go to in New York. What's up, nitty, Hey, 882 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: how's it going. 883 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 10: Happy belated holidays with you guys? 884 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: How you doing? Thanks? 885 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 10: Uh So, I think Anthony pretty much like touched on 886 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 10: all the things I wanted to touch on as well 887 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 10: to the notion of fandom. And you know, I have 888 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 10: a lot of friends that are on one side or 889 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 10: the other in terms of people that are just all 890 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 10: in with the tank or all in on Hey if 891 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 10: you're if you're not watching and Red to win, like 892 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,479 Speaker 10: are you? Are you a real fan? And I think 893 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 10: it's like like you like you guys said, like it's 894 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 10: it's on a spectrum and it's football at the end 895 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 10: of the day, and you watch however you want to watch. 896 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 10: And I get the notion of you know, with with tanking, 897 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 10: there's a very real implication that you're you're not really 898 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 10: going to be in this hopefully draft position in a 899 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 10: long long time, and being able to pick at the top, 900 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 10: like you guys have talked on with your other shows, 901 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 10: is you know, you get more options to work with 902 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 10: when you're picking out two versus eight. So I get that, 903 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 10: and I guess my my my sentiment is when when 904 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 10: watching the Patriots on Christmas, you know it's it's Christmas Day, 905 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 10: I'm home with my family for the first time in months, 906 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 10: and watching the game and seeing Chad Ryland kick that 907 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 10: game winning field goal in a redemption sort of way, 908 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 10: I fiving my my family afterwards, Like I take that 909 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 10: any any day of the week, honestly, regardless of draft position. 910 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 10: And I kind of want to turn it to you guys. 911 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 10: You know, the Patriots were to win out these these 912 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 10: last two games or lose out these last two games, 913 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 10: would you rather be you know, absolute nail biters of 914 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 10: wins like Bailey Zappi's playing his part out and Barmore's 915 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 10: playing his dominant self and you know they went out, 916 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 10: or would you rather dad or see you know, a 917 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 10: heartbreaker of a game like like in Germany and they 918 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 10: lose out, but they managed to get a top you 919 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 10: know five top board pick. I'd rather I guess kind 920 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 10: of wanted to hear it one way or the other. 921 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 1: Thanks Nitny. I'd rather have them blow both these teams 922 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: out of the water both games. 923 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 4: I just want to be entertained, Like I don't really 924 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 4: like that. 925 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: That would to me, that would be entertaining, I know. 926 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 4: And I think the thing that just bugs me is 927 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 4: when people act like going from two to four it's 928 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 4: the end of the world, like you know what it's like, yeah, 929 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, but but just acting so like, 930 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 4: oh my god, it's over. You know, it's like you're 931 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 4: still in position to get a talented player, so you 932 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 4: don't have to like jump off the bridge because you 933 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 4: fell from two to four. Now, if they do win 934 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 4: the last two games and they end up at nine, 935 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 4: I get it a little bit more. But you know, 936 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 4: at this point, I'll take that win over two verse four. 937 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, like beating the Bills and then beating the Jets, 938 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: like that's that's fun. 939 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 4: I mean, not gonna I mean play, I mean putting 940 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 4: Buffalo's playoff hopes in serious doubt. Like I can take 941 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 4: a little satisfaction. 942 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,479 Speaker 3: In that after being the laughing stock. 943 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 5: If they you're doing more damage to your organization than 944 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 5: the Bills. 945 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 3: It just would feel really good to just end on 946 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 3: a high note and just have good vibes going into 947 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 3: the off season. I don't know what that would do 948 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 3: for free agency, but I don't know. 949 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 4: I'm a free agent. 950 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to come to a team that had 951 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 3: like no hope at the end of the year. 952 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 5: But that is win on a run of what happens 953 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 5: now for sure. 954 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 3: But if if they end on a higher note and 955 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 3: don't just like kind of roll over, you could probably 956 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 3: talk yourself into it a little more. 957 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 4: It's just going to be a very different team. I 958 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 4: think that's the hard part. It's it's hard to say 959 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 4: what this momentum will translate to because a lot of 960 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 4: the players that you're talking about. 961 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: They might not even be I get it. You know, 962 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: like if if you're in the Caleb Williams or Drake 963 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: May sweepstakes and free agents know that, it's like, oh, well, 964 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna get one of these quarterbacks. You know, I'll 965 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: go to them. You know they'll be a better team. 966 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: But if you're out, then I just. 967 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 5: I don't know. 968 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 6: I'm always torn about it because in the moment, like 969 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 6: after they win the game in Denver, I wouldn't say 970 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 6: I was on cloud nine like Bailey Zappi, but maybe 971 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 6: like cloud three. You know, like you're like you're like 972 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 6: excited about it a little bit, and it's it's much 973 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 6: more fun to cover or win than a loss, and 974 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 6: like all that kind of stuff. But in the long run, 975 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 6: like you do have to recognize. But I'm with Deuce 976 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 6: and we talked about this on Catch twenty two, Like 977 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 6: the difference between two to four is like not this, 978 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 6: like let's like throw our hands up and cry right, 979 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 6: Like it's not that big of a deal. Now going 980 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 6: from two at one point to nine, it is a 981 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 6: different story. But you know, there's a lot of really 982 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 6: good players at the top of this draft that I 983 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 6: would be ecstatic with the Patriots getting. 984 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: Let's go to Spi and Fresno. What's up speak? 985 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 11: The wings discussion today really brought out Evans Inner. 986 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: Eric Yeah, a little bit, a little bit, just yeah, 987 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, it's a wing thread, it's a wing. 988 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 11: Yeah. There was no way to change his mind. 989 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 5: My mind still hasn't changed. 990 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: Nope, good luck to you. 991 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 11: Is that the question so your your backup quarter I 992 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 11: mean this is an oversimplification, maybe, but maybe you want 993 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 11: your backup quarterback to do kind of two things. Step 994 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 11: in and hopefully give you a chance when your starter 995 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 11: is down over of course of maybe a small shuts 996 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 11: of the season, like two or three games. And then 997 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 11: also compete well enough with your starter in the preseason, 998 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 11: and yeah, to to bring out the best in that guy. 999 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 11: And it's in the latter case that I question whether. 1000 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 11: I mean, I guess in both cases, but really I'm 1001 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 11: more concerned about the ladder, Like, do you think that 1002 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 11: Bailey's appy is good enough to bring out the best 1003 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 11: in whatever quarterback you draft? 1004 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 5: Assume you do, I don't really understand is he gonna? 1005 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 4: Is he gonna push a young guy enough to to 1006 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 4: bring us out? 1007 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 5: What you mean? Well, he thinks he's gonna. He is 1008 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 5: competing for his starting job. So shouldn't that motivate the 1009 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 5: starter if he's not the starter? 1010 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 4: Like, he's not a fair fight. 1011 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 5: I would be leary of the guy who is content 1012 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 5: as the backup, Like you don't want that? 1013 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. 1014 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 5: Think he's content as a backup. I think he thinks. 1015 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm saying, do we get that 1016 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 4: out there in training camp? And it's like this guy's 1017 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 4: just head and shoulders talented, like he might not know 1018 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 4: the system yet or that, but it's just like it 1019 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 4: doesn't really is he good enough to really, you know, 1020 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 4: state his case or is it you know, is a 1021 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 4: guy like Michael Pennock's gonna come in and it's going 1022 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 4: to be obvious, kind of like it was with Matt oh. 1023 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 5: I think it'll be obvious if they draft one of 1024 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 5: those highly regarded quarterbacks, the difference in skill set. I 1025 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 5: don't think mac Jones is all that skilled, and I 1026 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 5: think he's got a better skill set. 1027 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 4: But then but then that doesn't it seem like that 1028 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 4: it would just be the rookie. Then it doesn't really 1029 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 4: seem well, I think that the no, he wouldn't be 1030 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 4: able to put up much of a. 1031 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 5: But like, what backup quarterbacks around the league are the 1032 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 5: guy that like, is good enough that he's putting fear 1033 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 5: in the starter? Jake Browning, you know, Joe Burrow, Like seriously, 1034 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 5: like I think that you want to like Zappi's profile 1035 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 5: right now? To me, is is really good in that 1036 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 5: regard because he has proven that he can step in 1037 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 5: the offense runs they you know, they're able to continue 1038 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 5: to compete just the same way they were now. You 1039 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 5: could argue that there's not much difference between the starter 1040 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 5: and the backup and that's why you're four and eleven 1041 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 5: like that, That would be my argument, But I don't. 1042 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 5: I don't think that there's like a lot of guys 1043 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 5: like Cooper Rush is not keeping Dak Prescott up at night. 1044 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 5: You know, he stepped in and played well when he's 1045 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 5: gotten an opportunity. 1046 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 6: I just feel like with Zappy, I know there's been 1047 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 6: on your your show's Paul some some pushback about his 1048 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 6: attitude and and how he's a little little arrogant, little 1049 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 6: cocky and yeah, and I I actually think that he's 1050 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 6: like the perfect backup quarterback because in a pinch, if 1051 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 6: you have to start him a couple of games because 1052 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 6: your guy started gets hurt like Mac Jones last year, 1053 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 6: your starter goes down. He won them two games. Now, 1054 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 6: do I think that he's gonna be able to carry 1055 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 6: them to the Promised Land? No, but your ideal backup 1056 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 6: quarterback is somebody that can come in for two to three. 1057 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 5: I worry a little bit about his ad Elvis. 1058 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 6: And just keep the ship afloat. I mean, but what 1059 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 6: a like I feel like if you're a backup quarterback. 1060 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 5: I don't understand you. 1061 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 6: If you're a backup quarterback, don't you need to have 1062 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 6: like a lot of self confidence because the organization's not 1063 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 6: backing you right Like, you're not the you're not the 1064 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 6: team's guide. The team's guy is Mac Jones. But in 1065 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 6: order for you to be able to do what Zappy's 1066 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 6: been able to do, you have to be comfortable in 1067 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 6: your own skin and confident in yourself. And that has 1068 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 6: to be manufactured because no one's going to tell you 1069 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 6: that you're good like you're the backup quarterback. 1070 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like it all right, Thanks, b appreciate 1071 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: the call. 1072 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 5: Appreciate you. 1073 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 10: Uh. 1074 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: Andrew in La writes in he's about the journalism thing, 1075 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: he says, correct me if I'm wrong. A lot of 1076 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: media members nowadays don't necessarily need a journalism degree. But 1077 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: for those who went to school for journalism in the room, 1078 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: how has that assisted and also hindered you in the 1079 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 1: business now that it is more open to different types 1080 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: of content creators. 1081 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 6: I think that, you know, because I did go to 1082 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 6: journalism school. But I think that the way that journalism 1083 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 6: school is now. 1084 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: It's just it's being taught differently. 1085 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 6: Because it has to be right. So I don't even 1086 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 6: know if it's like an apples to apples comparisite. Because 1087 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 6: of that, Like I. 1088 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: Tell people, like, you can't just write, Like, if you 1089 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: want to get in the business, you have to, you know, 1090 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: maybe do some video editing, be able to you know, 1091 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: put up a podcast. You have to really know all 1092 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: forms of the media. These days, the intable. 1093 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 3: On camera, I can really only speak to you mass. 1094 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 3: But that was such a big part of the curriculum. 1095 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 3: We had sports broadcasting classes, sports writing, magazine writing, photo journalism. 1096 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 3: Like I came out of college knowing completely the full 1097 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 3: Adobe Creative Edit suite. Yeah, and it's just you have 1098 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 3: to know yep. 1099 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: Uh. Secondly, says Andrew, Give me Jade and Daniels in 1100 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: the first round and his teammate Thomas Junior the wide 1101 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: receiver in the second and I won't have Patriots depression anymore. 1102 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 5: I don't know who Thomas Junior is. 1103 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 4: It's Thomas's son. 1104 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 5: I'd rather have Milik Neighbors. We're talking about Melik Neighbors, 1105 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 5: but he ain't gonna be available in the second round. Yeah, No, 1106 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 5: I don't think. 1107 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 1: Dan in Connecticut yesterday's show was gross, though he says, 1108 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: I love it, Holy bad Take City from Deuce and 1109 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: Alex about you. We want to give Bill a top 1110 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: draft pick. 1111 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 5: To take one that wanted Bill. 1112 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 6: No, I said, I was afraid that he will. 1113 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: Turn the corner. 1114 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 4: Like I just I'm like, do you listen and like 1115 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 4: you just make it up? You meant like I just 1116 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 4: you state the case of like we talked about it, 1117 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 4: like what are you writing right now? You said, like 1118 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 4: you're gonna tell me that I go to the show, 1119 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 4: pull it up, give me the time called the receipts. 1120 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 4: Evan was the one who laid out how hard it's 1121 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 4: going to be for Robert Craft to make that decision. 1122 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 4: But I'm saying, but that's that's what the controversation was. 1123 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 4: It wasn't me sitting here being like, well they went 1124 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 4: in Denver, bring back Bill. 1125 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 5: So you haven't waffled, no, like like none of us have. 1126 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 3: I feel like just played Devil's advocate too. 1127 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 4: But well, but I don't think everything that we said 1128 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 4: yesterday was accurate. And if if he if he wants 1129 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,479 Speaker 4: to hear that we were making the case to bring 1130 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 4: back Bill. Then fine, but whatever we say, you're only 1131 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,240 Speaker 4: going to hear that, like if we and God forbid, 1132 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 4: we had some complimentary things to say about Bill yesterday, Paul, 1133 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 4: and people were like tweeting at you, tweeting at you, 1134 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 4: being like, oh my god, Paul, they're actually saying nice 1135 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 4: things about Bill. Bill right now. 1136 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 5: I did not get that. I didn't hear anything about 1137 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 5: Bill on my I did get a lot of good tweets. 1138 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 5: I did get a lot of tweets about the show, 1139 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 5: but none of them about you guys, for or against Bill. 1140 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 5: I didn't get any of that. We did. I just 1141 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 5: said that I have. 1142 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 6: I am fearful that it's one thing to say it, 1143 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 6: and it's another thing to do it. And you can 1144 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 6: sit here and say, you know that we're gonna move 1145 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 6: on from Bill. I think it's a lot easier when 1146 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 6: we get to January eighth to look him in the 1147 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 6: eyes and say you're out, Like, I just don't think 1148 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 6: that that's we're not giving enough credence to the fact 1149 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 6: that he could be back, Like he could be back. 1150 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 6: It might not be, you know, the the end, you know, 1151 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 6: it might not. 1152 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 4: It's and it's the easy thing to do is to 1153 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 4: keep them. That's the easy thing for Robert Craft. And 1154 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 4: that was the angle that we were playing that Robert 1155 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 4: Craft is he's he's coming toward the end too. Does 1156 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 4: he want to upset the apple cart and have to 1157 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 4: deal with whole new people and hand the keys to 1158 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 4: all this free agency money, all the draft picks to 1159 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 4: somebody new. And that's that's the. 1160 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 3: Point we're we're trying to make Yesterday, I wasn't saying 1161 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 3: that because for their expectations. I feel like so many 1162 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 3: people think that we fire Bill and we're back in 1163 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 3: the promised Land, and it's like you might be signing up. 1164 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 4: For a longer right, Well, you're back into the wilderness. 1165 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 4: And that's fine. Every team has to do it at 1166 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 4: some point. But I think the biggest point is just 1167 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,959 Speaker 4: that I wouldn't find it surprising to ev it's point 1168 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 4: that Robert Kraft says, I don't. I'm just going to 1169 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,919 Speaker 4: ride it out with this guy. I'm going to buy 1170 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 4: into what he said. I'm gonna let him have this 1171 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 4: offseason with the resources that we have at his disposal. 1172 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 4: I don't feel comfortable handing it to somebody new. I 1173 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 4: can see him doing that. Do I think that that's 1174 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 4: the right decision. No, But that's he's the one with 1175 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 4: the power. It doesn't matter what I think. 1176 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 5: The two. The couple of things that have sort of 1177 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 5: annoyed me on this is I I said before when 1178 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 5: we were talking about the tank no tank thing. You 1179 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 5: think whatever way you want to think. And I think 1180 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 5: it's kind of silly for people to try to dictate 1181 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 5: how everybody should feel. So if you feel that Bill 1182 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 5: should be back, I've not tried to talk. I mean, 1183 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 5: I disagree, but I have you know, I'm not here 1184 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 5: to tell you you're wrong. The only thing that I 1185 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 5: would say is I don't understand. And there have been 1186 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 5: some of There has been some of this, like they've 1187 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 5: won two out of four games and suddenly this is 1188 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,399 Speaker 5: like a referendum. Is Bill saving his job? Like if 1189 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,720 Speaker 5: you thought coming out of Germany that Bill should be back, 1190 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 5: then that's fine. If you thought coming out of Germany 1191 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 5: that Bill should be gone, not would be he should 1192 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 5: be gone. I don't understand what meaningless wins over these 1193 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,399 Speaker 5: teams have to do with anything, like because Marvin Mims 1194 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 5: fumbled the ball into the end zone and you won 1195 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,439 Speaker 5: a game that hasn't happened all year, in any other 1196 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 5: game they haven't gotten. I think that's their only defensive touchdown, correct, 1197 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 5: yea of the whole season, right, you got it? So 1198 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 5: instead of going three and twelve of your four and 1199 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 5: eleven now because of that play, and now that's like 1200 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 5: a referendum to keep Bill. That's the part I don't get. 1201 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 5: If you want to keep Bill, I get it. He's 1202 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 5: won six titles. I understand all the things that he's done. 1203 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 5: I just don't understand that. I watched the Los Angeles 1204 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 5: Chargers go out of their way so bad. They was 1205 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 5: so sick and tired of a coach that they said, 1206 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 5: it's not working. We got to do something really dramatic 1207 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 5: to get rid of this guy. And then they got 1208 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 5: They got rid of them. How they play the next week. 1209 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 5: They played their asses off the next week and they 1210 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 5: almost beat Buffalo, who is as hot as anybody in 1211 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 5: the league right now. I watch the Raiders. They're playing 1212 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 5: their asses off. Like teams play hard because there's a 1213 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 5: lot of young guys in the league that don't know 1214 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 5: they're going to be in the league next year, so 1215 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 5: they have to try the guys on the field are trying. 1216 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 5: I don't give Bill props for that. And by the way, 1217 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 5: not everybody is on board, as we mentioned with the 1218 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 5: practice report yesterday. Well, Trent Brown, where's jujubin the laugh 1219 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:00,760 Speaker 5: couple of weeks. 1220 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: I don't know what his deal. 1221 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 6: Juju goes out to Pittsburgh, has the best game he 1222 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 6: has all season long, just so happens to be against 1223 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 6: the team that drafted him, and then taps out. 1224 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 5: The next two weeks. 1225 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: They had a chance against Kansas City. But I don't know. 1226 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what his deal is. 1227 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 4: I don't know his deal is either. 1228 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 5: But no, maybe he did, but I I don't necessarily 1229 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 5: like give extra points in the column because they're continuing 1230 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 5: to play hard. 1231 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,919 Speaker 3: Like that's their job exactly, especially. 1232 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 5: You know, and like you made a comment about Tavia's 1233 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 5: like I could see when they came you said they 1234 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 5: came back from Germany, and you seemed like there was 1235 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 5: you know, and then all of a sudden they're like, 1236 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 5: you know what, it's lost, so that the pressure is off. 1237 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 5: We just got to go out there and play. And 1238 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 5: everybody now takes on sort of what's in their best interests, 1239 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 5: and I get and like it's in their best interest 1240 00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,240 Speaker 5: to play. 1241 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 6: Hard, playing for their lively are a lot of like 1242 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 6: we got you still got to put good film out there. 1243 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 6: Somebody's watching, but it doesn't. 1244 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 5: I've spent all year about the Arizona Cardinals. They're playing 1245 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 5: their asses off, but it got very good. 1246 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: In your example is Paul with the Chargers and the Raiders. 1247 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 1: They got rid of their coach and so they had this, 1248 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, interim coach, and they kept playing. 1249 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 5: Hard because it's a professional. 1250 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: But in this case, but in this case, I think 1251 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: people are looking at it. It's like he hasn't lost 1252 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: the locker room. You know, they're still you know, playing hard. 1253 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: And you can tell, you know from the evidence that 1254 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,760 Speaker 1: we have the videos after wins that this team still 1255 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: loves their coach. 1256 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,760 Speaker 5: Again, look at the whole video. 1257 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there's a couple of guys, but the. 1258 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 5: Most like that happens. But it's the same thing all 1259 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 5: over the league. But that most most of the guys 1260 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,800 Speaker 5: are playing hard, but they're plugged. 1261 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: But on every team there's a couple of guys that 1262 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: aren't exactly the situation but exactly, but why are we 1263 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: making such a a lot of times when teams are 1264 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 1: out of it, you know, minus a coaching change, guys 1265 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: tune out a lot of times. 1266 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 5: I don't see that. I really don't. I don't see 1267 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 5: that as a as a general rule. 1268 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 6: I just think it from Bill's perspective, like, regardless of 1269 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 6: if guys still love their coach or buying. Like, my 1270 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 6: issues with Bill are philosophical, Like it's nothing to deal 1271 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 6: with with effort and all that kind of stuff. 1272 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 5: That's why I said, if you think that Bill should stay, 1273 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 5: that's that it's philosophical. I agree with the way Bill coaches. 1274 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 5: I agree with the way Bill puts the team together. 1275 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 5: Not because you know. I'll give you another example. Okay, 1276 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 5: Ron Rivera is out, he's going. It's the least kept 1277 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 5: secret in the league. Right Washington goes to the Jets 1278 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,320 Speaker 5: in a meaningless game and falls behind by a thousand points, 1279 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 5: and they come back and take the lead. They've lost 1280 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 5: six in a row, they've traded every good player they 1281 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,760 Speaker 5: have on the roster, but pride makes you continue to try. 1282 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,879 Speaker 5: It's not because Ron Rivera, he still has the ear 1283 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 5: of the locker room. It's because the players go out 1284 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 5: there and they play. They've changed quarterbacks, they put it 1285 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 5: you know other guys in there's a professionalism involved that 1286 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 5: I don't think you get bonus points, Like I don't 1287 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 5: think that they're talking in Washington like did you see 1288 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 5: how they came back from twenty seven down and took 1289 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 5: the Like I don't think that they're talking like that 1290 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 5: about Ron Rivera. 1291 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 4: And I think it's frustrating for me just about the 1292 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 4: emails that like we did the postgame show, I wrote 1293 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 4: about the like everything we've said about that game, it's 1294 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 4: never about like, wow, they play great. For Bill, it 1295 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 4: was like this week they got the bounces, they had 1296 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 4: some bad plays, they made the good ones, and that's 1297 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 4: what it was about to me. So it doesn't say anything. 1298 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,720 Speaker 5: Bill's case to me is when greatest coach of all time, 1299 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 5: six super Bowls, proven track record in a slump, needs 1300 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 5: to draft better, but we know he can do it. 1301 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 5: Not did you see the way that they found a 1302 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,720 Speaker 5: way to beat the Denver Broncos in Denver on Christmas 1303 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 5: even a meaningless game, Like I just don't really understand that, 1304 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 5: especially in some people. And I don't think there's a 1305 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,919 Speaker 5: lot of that to be to be fair, Fred, you'll 1306 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 5: make fun of me. It istle bit of a strong man. 1307 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 5: I haven't heard a lot of that, but I have 1308 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 5: heard some of it. 1309 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 6: I do think when you went in that locker room 1310 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 6: after the game, though, like there there was that what 1311 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 6: Fred's talking about, that there's a lot of love in 1312 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 6: that locker. 1313 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,359 Speaker 5: Room for Bill, and there should be. They should be right, 1314 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,399 Speaker 5: and he's the greatest coach He's ever done it right. 1315 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 6: But I think that it comes down to is like, 1316 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 6: if I'm the Crafts, like he needs to make a really, 1317 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 6: really convincing pitch of how they are going to fix 1318 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 6: the offensive side of the football. And it wasn't as 1319 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 6: simple as just putting Bill O'Brien as offensive coordinator. 1320 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 5: And you know, I felt for that cheese too. So 1321 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 5: do you think it'll be as simple as bringing Josh 1322 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 5: back with him? I don't know. 1323 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 6: But like the point is is that, you know, there 1324 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 6: needs to be a real philosophical difference of approach on 1325 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 6: how they approach adding talent on the offensive side of 1326 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 6: the ball. It's not just coaching, it's adding talent on 1327 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 6: the offensive side of the ball. Because you know, back 1328 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 6: to kind of like the Zappie question. At the end 1329 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 6: of the day, you know they've had a couple of 1330 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,439 Speaker 6: plays down the field where guys made plays on the ball, 1331 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 6: like DeVante Parker catches a pass on Patrick Surtain and 1332 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 6: to Mario Douglas catches the big bomb, you know, on 1333 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 6: the fifty. 1334 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 5: Fifty balls were like ninety five percent Patriots. 1335 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 6: Right, they caught him against the Chargers, they didn't catch 1336 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 6: them right. 1337 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 5: And that was just the difference in this game. 1338 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 6: And that's how this offense has lived in the last 1339 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 6: couple of years or these you know, chuck It and 1340 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 6: Duckett fifty to fifty balls. 1341 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,919 Speaker 5: And the other team's fifty to fifty guy played nine 1342 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 5: plays right and he got knocked out of the game, 1343 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 5: and he just you can't live like that in the NFL. 1344 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 6: Like, the only guy that I watch on the Patriots 1345 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 6: offense or I'm like that guy is the modern NFL 1346 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 6: is Pop Like he's the only one that moves at 1347 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 6: a different speed than everybody else on this offense. And 1348 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 6: he's like, that's why I said the breath of fresh air. 1349 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, a parent from like day one. But one of 1350 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 4: the other things we talked about yesterday when we were, 1351 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 4: you know, saying how much we all want Bill Belichick back, 1352 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 4: was what if they what if they just got rid 1353 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 4: of Bill. Like what if Bill O'Brian went to college 1354 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 4: and they're going to redo the offensive staff and bring 1355 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 4: in not Josh, a new offensive coordinator with a whole 1356 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 4: new philosophy, you know. 1357 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: Like that? 1358 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 4: Like that interesting think This was the conversation was about, 1359 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 4: like what would the pitch be, you know, and and 1360 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 4: and if he does come back, what would the changes 1361 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 4: have to be? 1362 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 5: You know, I'd be interested in hearing that. I'm not 1363 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 5: necessarily wanting him to implement it, but I'd be interested 1364 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 5: in hearing it. 1365 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 1: Chris and Colfax, California. I'm currently working through the stages 1366 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: of grief over last week's when I was excited for 1367 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 1: the idea of getting a top quarterback to build around. 1368 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: But that idea is all but gone now it's not 1369 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: I've come to accept that we are going to draft 1370 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 1: a tackle, bring back the exact same coaching staff, and 1371 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: have either Zappi or a washed up vet like Russell 1372 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: Wilson or the like. If we do draft a quarterback, 1373 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: it is once again going to be the fifth best 1374 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 1: and we will likely be looking once again. Uh, well, 1375 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what he meant by that. I've accepted 1376 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: purgatory so they have. 1377 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 6: The fourth pick in the draft right now, but somehow 1378 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 6: they're going to get the fifth best quarterback in the draft, 1379 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 6: well the third, not the fifth. 1380 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, I look, I started to dabble 1381 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 4: in this draft stuff, like, not everybody thinks that it's 1382 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, Drake May, and Marvin Harrison at one three 1383 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 4: locked from here to until the until round one goes. 1384 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 4: Not everybody thinks that that's gonna happen. There's gonna be 1385 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 4: trades and if you really love a guy, you can 1386 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 4: still trade up. So that like, this is the stuff 1387 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 4: I don't get. This is the stuff where you like 1388 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 4: so much changes with the draft over these next four 1389 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 4: months and guys rise and you know, for right reasons 1390 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 4: and wrong reasons. But to think that we as we 1391 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 4: sit here right now, that that that that like because basically, 1392 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 4: if you don't get Drake May, it's over. Patriots are dead. 1393 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 4: Like that's what That's what I. 1394 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 5: I don't know what the guy is. I'm not I 1395 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 5: haven't you know, done the deep dive. But the difference is, yeah, 1396 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 5: you can get one of those guys, you can get 1397 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 5: the one you want, but now you have to give 1398 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 5: something up to get it or as you didn't have 1399 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 5: to necessarily before. 1400 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 4: But if you want to day and then what does 1401 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 4: it matter? 1402 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 5: Well, then that's fine if you want Jayden Daniels, Yeah, 1403 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 5: I just but that's like to me, I would be like, 1404 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 5: unlike a lot of other people, I don't want to 1405 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 5: settle for the one who's left. 1406 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 4: Right. I know you felt the way about Drake May 1407 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 4: like he's making a sound then what does it matter 1408 01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 4: what you have to if you truly feel that, and yeah, 1409 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 4: it sucks that we have to invest at little bit more, 1410 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 4: but if you truly think he's the man, it. 1411 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 5: Matters that I could have just taken him with my 1412 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 5: pick and now I have to give something up to take. 1413 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 5: But if different, that's a bit different. 1414 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 4: What does it matter though? I mean, if you get 1415 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 4: the guy, you mean you said you have to give 1416 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 4: up resources for it, right, but what an extra like 1417 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 4: second rounder next year? Like that's what the that's the 1418 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 4: cost and probably a first rounder now yeah. 1419 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 6: Because if it's up for sale then but but if 1420 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 6: it's the guy, I just feel like this happens every year, 1421 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 6: and I think it's just happening a little bit sooner 1422 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 6: for us because of where the Patriots are are currently. 1423 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 5: We're not usually in this spot. We watched the other 1424 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 5: team have to do. 1425 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 6: But the media catches up with the league in the 1426 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 6: next couple of months. Like by the time the combine 1427 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 6: rolls around, the media board is more reflective of what 1428 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 6: the actual board is in the NFL circles. So we're 1429 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 6: catching up to it. And I think what we're finding 1430 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 6: out is that Jayden Daniels is a lot closer to 1431 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 6: Drake May than I think people originally might have thought, 1432 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 6: like a month ago. And part of that's because he 1433 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 6: won the Heisman Trophy, right and like you go out 1434 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 6: and you have the season that he had, he's going 1435 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 6: to move up the board. But I think that Caleb 1436 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 6: Williams is still one to one and he's in a 1437 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 6: tier of his own. But I would put Drake May 1438 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 6: and Jaden Daniels in the same tier. I think those 1439 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 6: two guys are pretty much talent wise, are equal, and 1440 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 6: I think that that's where I'm at with the whole thing. 1441 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 1: We'll read an email from Mike and Southie, then we'll 1442 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 1: take a break. He says, It's as simple as this. 1443 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 1: Your record is a result of your play. Your play 1444 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: should not dictate desired draft position. If we don't get 1445 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: a top three pick, all it means is we weren't 1446 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 1: one of the three worst teams in the league. We 1447 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: aren't making mistakes by winning. The results of each game 1448 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: are independent of the draft. 1449 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 5: I would agree with that. 1450 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. Got a lot more 1451 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 1: emails calls. 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Visi Verizon 1472 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 12: dot com for details. 1473 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 5: Bailey z Appy spoke with the media yesterday. 1474 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 4: Let's hear what he had to say. 1475 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 13: Really, that's a really hard one. 1476 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 1: I gotta be careful. 1477 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 4: So what you start preparing here for whether you can see. 1478 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean they're well coached, you know, from top 1479 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 14: to bottom, from the D line to linebackers to you know, 1480 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 14: this secondary group. I mean they're well coached. They understand 1481 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 14: that system. They've been in that system for you know, 1482 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 14: a lot of those guys have been there for a 1483 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 14: while now. 1484 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 13: And then you look at you know, some of. 1485 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 14: Those guys like Ployer and Michael Hide, those guys have 1486 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 14: been playing for eleven years. So a lot of those 1487 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 14: guys have a lot of experience and a lot of 1488 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 14: you know, games under their belts where they understand how 1489 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 14: to disguise, how not to disguise and kind of hide 1490 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 14: some of the things that they're doing. So it's gonna 1491 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 14: be you know, a tough challenge for us to you know, 1492 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 14: see what they're doing versuss and just you know, execute 1493 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 14: what we're trying to. 1494 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Do, to ride the moments what you guys were able 1495 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 1: to do in Denver kind of with that kind of 1496 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 1: thing that you learn about yourself and the team those 1497 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 1: you go about. 1498 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 4: That week here. 1499 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 14: Yeah, of course you would, you know, love to ride 1500 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,480 Speaker 14: that momentum. 1501 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 13: I mean, we're playing a great Bills team. They've been 1502 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 13: rolling the last three weeks. 1503 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 14: So it's really gonna come down to us executing what 1504 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,600 Speaker 14: we're trying to do as the offense, and then some 1505 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 14: of the things that you know, looking back versus the Broncos, 1506 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 14: there's a few you know mysteries that I had, you know, 1507 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 14: I had, you know, Pharaoh on one route that I 1508 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 14: missed him on and just little things like that and 1509 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 14: that could affect the game. So just trying to dial 1510 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 14: that in and get ready for you know, practice today 1511 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 14: and tomorrow Friday and try to fix some of those things. 1512 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 15: Really, I know you didn't you didn't play in the 1513 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 15: matchup against the Bills, earlier this season. But what did 1514 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 15: you take from the sideline about what they do well 1515 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 15: on defense and what can you bring into the Sunday. 1516 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean they play hard. They're front four of 1517 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 14: those guys. They're coming after you. So it's gonna be 1518 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 14: up to me to you know, try to see the 1519 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 14: you know, defense pre and post snap. 1520 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:31,919 Speaker 13: And try to get the ball out. 1521 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 14: You know, like coach always says, I can't make any 1522 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 14: yards until I get rid of the ball. So it's 1523 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 14: gonna be up to me to kind of, you know, 1524 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 14: see what they're trying to do. It's gonna be hard 1525 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 14: because those guys played really well. They played for a 1526 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 14: long time, so you know, to be a lot of 1527 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 14: film watching and trying to get an understanding of those guys. 1528 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,440 Speaker 6: Were talking to coach O'Brien yesterday and he said that 1529 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 6: you worked with Edon Rosstein on pocket movement and stuff 1530 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 6: like that a lot, and just wondering like what kind 1531 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,440 Speaker 6: of goes into that routine for you. 1532 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean we you usually do that stuff every 1533 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 14: day before practice. We get out there fifteen twenty minutes before, 1534 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 14: have the bags and you know, he kind of walks 1535 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 14: out there and tells us what drills he wants us 1536 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 14: to do, and but we're really pretty routine about it. 1537 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,920 Speaker 14: We do it every day, and it kind of just 1538 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 14: the more you do it, the more it becomes like 1539 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 14: second nature to you. So when you get on the field, 1540 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 14: you're not really worried about or thinking about. It kind 1541 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 14: of just comes natural, and that's what you want. You 1542 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 14: don't want to be back there worried about the rush. 1543 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 14: You want to be able to have your eyes downfield. 1544 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 14: So that's really helped a lot. Doing that stuff before practice. 1545 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 8: Really would sat. 1546 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 5: Thinks that could probe thinks this sous. 1547 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 14: When did I start, you know, I'd say in training camp, 1548 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,960 Speaker 14: I felt like I started to get, you know, a 1549 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 14: good sense of you know, the system. I mean it's 1550 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 14: not I mean the verbiage and some of the things 1551 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 14: are of course different than what we did last year. 1552 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 13: But of course, you know, the more. 1553 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 14: Weeks that you know, I was in the game planning 1554 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 14: and the games and now playing in the games, of course, 1555 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 14: getting comfortable with him and how he likes to call plays. 1556 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 13: It's it's helped a lot. 1557 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 14: And the more practices and of course the more games 1558 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 14: I play with him calling it and game planning with him, 1559 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 14: and kind of getting a sense of, you know, how 1560 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 14: he likes to do things and attack things. I think 1561 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 14: both of us are only going to get more more comfortable, 1562 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 14: you know, with each other. 1563 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 4: How different is the system with Bill compared to what 1564 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 4: you would feel operated in the past. 1565 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 14: In college, Well, I played, I was in the air raid, 1566 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 14: so it's it's totally opposite. I think we ran the 1567 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 14: ball like ten times a game, not through about fifty 1568 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 14: So that's one of the biggest differences. And then you know, 1569 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 14: then it was, you know, just the different concepts. Of course, 1570 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 14: everybody kind of runs the same you know, routes, but 1571 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 14: just a different way of putting two concepts together and 1572 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 14: how you read it. Of course that's different. And then 1573 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 14: the play calling is a little bit different, a lot 1574 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 14: longer plays than you know, we'd have like a ninety 1575 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 14: five in college. I mean that was a play and 1576 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 14: you don't have that no more in NFL. So I 1577 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 14: think that's another thing that's different. 1578 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,919 Speaker 13: But I enjoy it. It's fun. 1579 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, speaks the atmosphere, like for you in Buffalo, 1580 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 4: from the bus ride in where they're kind of getting 1581 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 4: on you guys, to being out there on the field. 1582 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 13: That's be exciting. 1583 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 14: You know this, These two teams, these two organizations have 1584 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 14: been going at it for a long time, and I 1585 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 14: don't think there's any I don't think either one like 1586 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,640 Speaker 14: each other very well. So it's gonna be fun to 1587 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 14: get out there and play against that great team and 1588 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,320 Speaker 14: that great organization. So it's gonna be fun. And you know, 1589 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 14: that's what football is all about. I mean, they get 1590 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,680 Speaker 14: after it, they love football, they love their bills. So 1591 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,599 Speaker 14: I mean it's it's gonna be loud. It's gonna come 1592 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 14: down to communication for us. So that's gonna be a 1593 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 14: big part and a big emphasis for us throughout this week. 1594 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 15: Bit off great here, but going up on a few. 1595 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:51,639 Speaker 8: Years, curious if you have a resident or resident ship. 1596 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 14: To be honest, we haven't thought about it. Uh yeah, yeah, 1597 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 14: get back to me after we're talking about Yeah, it 1598 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 14: was in the fourth quarter. I can't think of a 1599 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 14: right hash. I don't remember what your line. I think 1600 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,560 Speaker 14: it was like the second or third last drive. But 1601 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 14: it was just you know, something for me that I missed. 1602 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 3: You feel like. 1603 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 6: I read because it's like a spot concept, right yeah. 1604 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 14: I honestly, the it wasn't anything besides you know me, 1605 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:31,920 Speaker 14: I was kind of rushing out. Was in the mentality of, like, 1606 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 14: I didn't want to sit back there too long because 1607 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:35,800 Speaker 14: I know those guys are going to be, you know. 1608 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,479 Speaker 13: Either blitzing or you know, Russian hard to try to 1609 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 13: get a sack. 1610 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 14: So for me, it was just kind of I sped 1611 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 14: up my process too fast, and if I don't do that, 1612 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 14: maybe I hit him for a big game. 1613 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,759 Speaker 13: And right then and there the game's over. But I didn't, 1614 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 13: So that's something that I need to learn from. 1615 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 3: Let's sit out to you about working with Pharaoh Brown. 1616 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,479 Speaker 13: I mean that's a he's a great guy. He's tough, 1617 01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 13: he's physical. 1618 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 14: You could want to feel his presence, you know when 1619 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 14: he's on the football field because he's always finishing blocks. 1620 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 13: He plays to the echo of the whistle. He has 1621 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 13: great hands. 1622 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,600 Speaker 14: I think he he actually is very talented in the 1623 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 14: you know, passing game as much as he is in 1624 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 14: the run game too. So to be able to use 1625 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 14: him like we have on some of those teams, like 1626 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 14: he caught this past game and things like that, is 1627 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:20,720 Speaker 14: you know, it's a game that he can do. 1628 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 13: So it's nice to have a guy like that in 1629 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 13: the tight end room force. 1630 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:30,800 Speaker 16: Failure environments Pittsburgh, Denver, Prime Time. Just how do you 1631 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 16: feel like that has helped you as a player and 1632 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 16: changed you as a player. 1633 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean that's you know, it's fun. That's exactly 1634 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:40,680 Speaker 14: what football is all about. You want to go in 1635 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,559 Speaker 14: those environments. You want to go and play some tough 1636 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 14: teams and you know, winning of course makes it, you know, 1637 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 14: a lot better. But you know this is of course, 1638 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 14: this is gonna be uh, you know, another great environment 1639 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,920 Speaker 14: to play in. Like I said, you know, those these 1640 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 14: two teams we don't you know, and of course don't 1641 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,000 Speaker 14: like each other. It's a great rivalry. So just got 1642 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,000 Speaker 14: to go in there and you know, play our brand football. 1643 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,400 Speaker 2: Really DeVante Parker, that's allowed you guys to have such 1644 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 2: a great connection so far. 1645 01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,600 Speaker 14: And going back to La Yeah, I mean, Davante is 1646 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 14: one of those guys that you know, I fully believe 1647 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 14: in when you know those fifty to fifty balls kind 1648 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 14: of how we connected versus the Broncos to where I 1649 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 14: have the confidence in him to you know, really put 1650 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 14: it wherever I want and that he's gonna go get it. 1651 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 14: It's either gonna be incomplete or it's gonna be a 1652 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,000 Speaker 14: big game for us. So he's been doing that his 1653 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,719 Speaker 14: whole career. So to be able to see that again, 1654 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,760 Speaker 14: you know, versus Broncos is a beautiful sight to see 1655 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 14: him go up there and make those catches. 1656 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 13: So, you know, if we ever get that. 1657 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 14: Matchup again, I don't know if we will after the 1658 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 14: game we had, but if we do, hopefully we'll take 1659 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 14: advantage of it, and you know, I'll throw another one 1660 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 14: up there too. Shot. 1661 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,640 Speaker 11: How have you continue to adjusts? 1662 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean the guys, you know, we have a 1663 01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,759 Speaker 14: We've done a great job of the next man up mentality. 1664 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,640 Speaker 13: A lot of guys have stepped up. They've done a 1665 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 13: phenomenal job. 1666 01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,599 Speaker 14: They've came in, they've understood the game playing, they've ran 1667 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 14: great routes, they've caught the ball, they made plays. That's 1668 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:04,760 Speaker 14: really the only thing you can ask for, you know, 1669 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 14: I think we have great depth in all of our 1670 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 14: running back rooms, tied end rooms, receiver rooms, if it's 1671 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 14: in the course to o line room. We have great 1672 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 14: depth in every single guy that you know has had 1673 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 14: the opportunity to play has taken advantage of that opportunity. 1674 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,680 Speaker 15: When you make a misread on the field, what's your 1675 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,080 Speaker 15: process for learning what you need to learn who that 1676 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 15: miss without clouding your judgment on the next drive or 1677 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 15: slowing down your process too much for. 1678 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,040 Speaker 14: You overthinking, Yeah, I think you know it started off 1679 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 14: you go, you go off the sideline, you have your 1680 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 14: live pads, and that's when you kind of figure out like, Okay, 1681 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 14: maybe you know I read it wrong, Maybe I you know, 1682 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,599 Speaker 14: I stayed at the corner too long instead of seeing 1683 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 14: what the safety was doing, or I did vice versa. 1684 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 13: I mean, it really depends on how you're reading a 1685 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:46,040 Speaker 13: certain play. 1686 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 14: But mainly like that, just kind of seeing, you know, 1687 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 14: trying to remember where you started with your eyes and 1688 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,080 Speaker 14: maybe fixing it or tweaking it a little bit on 1689 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 14: how they're playing, you know, because some defenses, of course, 1690 01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 14: they make adjustment. So the first time you run a 1691 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,400 Speaker 14: on sept in the first half, they might run a 1692 01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 14: different coverage than they do in the second half, so 1693 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:05,640 Speaker 14: you just kind of just have to adjust to it. 1694 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 5: And now great moments in. 1695 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 4: History. 1696 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 5: It's a totally different food. I'm talking about boneless buffalo 1697 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,560 Speaker 5: wings as opposed to bone in buffalo wings, right, But 1698 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,680 Speaker 5: isn't what's in the chicken finger the same as the 1699 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 5: boneless buffalo wings? Necessarily it does nice to say it 1700 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 5: does not taste. 1701 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,679 Speaker 1: You can put anything in the boneless stuff. 1702 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 5: And I'm not even I'm not even anti because of that. 1703 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 5: Although he's right, Fred's absolutely right, it's not necessarily the same. 1704 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 5: The bone I think gives it more flavor. Yeah, I 1705 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 5: think it's a better you ever have a bone, put 1706 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 5: a non bone bone, absolutely bone, get that bone in boner, boner. 1707 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 4: That's another great moment from. 1708 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 1: All right back here and Patriots on filter at eight 1709 01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 1: five five Pats five hundred. 1710 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,640 Speaker 5: How great is it that we actually had the you 1711 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 5: already had it, Yeah, the whole the whole well, locking 1712 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 5: with different characters, Megan Megan over there. 1713 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:09,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we. 1714 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 5: Recycle here. 1715 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 1: So Paul on your sir holiday fill in gigs. 1716 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:20,599 Speaker 5: I heard a side piece? 1717 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Have you what I heard? 1718 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:22,599 Speaker 5: I have a side piece? 1719 01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:26,799 Speaker 1: Have you had the favorite Christmas movie discussion? 1720 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,040 Speaker 5: No, we didn't do any of that. 1721 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 1: That's like every station the last week, that's all they know. 1722 01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 1: We I'm talking national show. 1723 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 5: We spent about fifteen minutes talking about the Celtics in 1724 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,759 Speaker 5: three hours and forty five minutes talking about Bill Belichick's future. 1725 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:44,000 Speaker 5: So it kind of it's drink care the Bill stuff 1726 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 5: is he's getting a little tiresome. 1727 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 1: I have to admit, Marty and Reno, I don't have 1728 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,559 Speaker 1: an issue with other Patriots fans wanting a great draft 1729 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,360 Speaker 1: pick for next season. But snark On saying your best 1730 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,560 Speaker 1: Jeff Foxworthy voice, I don't know what he sounds like. 1731 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 1: If you're rooting against the Patriots to kick a game 1732 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,960 Speaker 1: winning field goal, you might just be a Broncos fan. 1733 01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Snark Off, did you. 1734 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 5: Guys talk at all about the Russell Wilson thing that 1735 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:10,519 Speaker 5: happened yesterday? 1736 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 1: It happened during the show. 1737 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it would be more about them trying to 1738 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,680 Speaker 4: renegotiate his contract, and I guess I read today. I 1739 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,880 Speaker 4: think the NFLPA was involved initially and nothing ever came 1740 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,640 Speaker 4: of it, and now this is kind of all coming out. 1741 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 5: I was just I was a little surprised that it 1742 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,080 Speaker 5: became so public. There's ways to do that without making 1743 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 5: a public You could just say, like, you know, we 1744 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 5: he played an absolutely, dreadfully bad game the other night, 1745 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 5: and I know it's probably one of the better games 1746 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,599 Speaker 5: he's played all year, because I think he's been terrible. 1747 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 5: But you could make an argument that we need to 1748 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 5: make a change, like I didn't think they necessarily had 1749 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 5: to get so public. 1750 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,680 Speaker 1: I think they had to get it out, get out 1751 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:54,479 Speaker 1: in front of it, because it wasn't going to look 1752 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,840 Speaker 1: good no matter what for them. So they just had 1753 01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 1: to get out in front of it and let it 1754 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,600 Speaker 1: and take the hits. And what is it now that 1755 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 1: they're just trying to get out of his money right 1756 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,559 Speaker 1: that they like said they don't want. 1757 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 5: If he gets hurt in March, if yeah, they're going 1758 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 5: to cut him. They they're not gonna be able to 1759 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,760 Speaker 5: get out from under the money. If he got hurt 1760 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,760 Speaker 5: in the last two games. It guarantees more money. 1761 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 4: Oh oh bye bye. 1762 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, because if he if he fails a physical at 1763 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 5: some point before the start of the league year or something, 1764 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 5: it guarantees another. 1765 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,640 Speaker 1: Whole thirty four million or something like that. 1766 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,720 Speaker 5: That's so risky, but it's amazing. It's amazing how you 1767 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 5: signed these contracts, right, they're stuck with him, Yeah until 1768 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 5: you just cut him. Yeah, and you know, life goes on. 1769 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 4: It's just I remember when the Bucks when they signed 1770 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,599 Speaker 4: him and and and Josh was going to the Raiders 1771 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 4: and they got DeVante Adams and just oh my gosh, 1772 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:43,880 Speaker 4: the AFC. 1773 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 5: West I thought the AC West, but I thought the 1774 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,639 Speaker 5: AFC West was going to be loaded, and it turned 1775 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 5: out to be just the Chargers and Broncos. Yeah, you 1776 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,800 Speaker 5: know last year the other two teams stunk. 1777 01:16:55,000 --> 01:17:00,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to the phone. Mike's and Washington State? 1778 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 5: What's up? 1779 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:09,639 Speaker 1: Oh L's and what Wisconsin? What's up? L L duh. 1780 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,280 Speaker 11: I like to be on hold because I can tell 1781 01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,679 Speaker 11: that Fred is just about to get hardied. 1782 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:19,200 Speaker 1: What's up? 1783 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 10: I have? 1784 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,479 Speaker 11: I have three things. I'll make it quick. There are 1785 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 11: no buys. I know, we got a hurry. The first 1786 01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 11: thing is to Evan. If there's one thing I believe 1787 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,040 Speaker 11: in this team, it's that they can get the fifth 1788 01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,040 Speaker 11: best quarterback at the fourth pick. 1789 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 9: Two. 1790 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,120 Speaker 17: I I kind of wanted to call in and just 1791 01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 17: address the whole tanking thing. The reason I've been rooting 1792 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:48,120 Speaker 17: for the tank. 1793 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,719 Speaker 11: Is because I think there's going to be a whole 1794 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 11: new regime in here next year. And if that's the case, 1795 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,599 Speaker 11: I want them to have the best possible starting point 1796 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,600 Speaker 11: to sort of execute their vision in on what they 1797 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 11: want the team to look like, because some players that 1798 01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 11: we might think are good maybe don't fit what they want, 1799 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 11: and so there's going to be a lot of change 1800 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 11: if there's a new regime. Now, if you're telling me 1801 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 11: that Bill Belichick is. 1802 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,720 Speaker 17: Back, I don't love it, But I'm more okay with 1803 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,559 Speaker 17: these wins and pushing the picks down a little bit 1804 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 17: because sort of that where he wants to build from 1805 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 17: is already there, if that makes sense. And then the 1806 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:31,320 Speaker 17: third point, just to bat at everyone who wants to tackle. 1807 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:37,280 Speaker 17: I know oline is important, but I think that if 1808 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,320 Speaker 17: you get a tackle early in the draft, like I'm 1809 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,840 Speaker 17: talking top five, top ten tackle based on how this 1810 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,040 Speaker 17: team looks right now, that's the only position that can 1811 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 17: work out and you get a great player and still 1812 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 17: be disappointed in the pick when you see other players 1813 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 17: making place. 1814 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,000 Speaker 11: I'll answer it off the line, thanks guys. 1815 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 1: All right, So. 1816 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, the tack part of it is I understand that 1817 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,360 Speaker 5: because it's hard to when you need so many things 1818 01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,560 Speaker 5: to say, let's get the tackle first, you know, and 1819 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 5: that the the Joe Thomas example is the one I 1820 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 5: use all the time, you know, like or even you 1821 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,479 Speaker 5: can knock it out of the park. Yeah, and it doesn't. 1822 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 5: And that's what worries me a little bit about Marvin Harrison, 1823 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:24,200 Speaker 5: Like if you don't have anybody around him. How much 1824 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,679 Speaker 5: does a great wide receiver impact your team, right. 1825 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,080 Speaker 1: We've seen that. I mean Calvin Johnson. 1826 01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,320 Speaker 5: Uh, like they had to get Stafford before he was really, 1827 01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 5: you know, able to do anything. 1828 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. 1829 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 4: I mean they just they need a lot. It's I 1830 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,320 Speaker 4: don't know. I'm excited to see how it starts to 1831 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 4: all kind of like Evan said, how it all flushes 1832 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,200 Speaker 4: out because all of a sudden, you you know, guys 1833 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,240 Speaker 4: you aren't expecting are now like, I don't know, this 1834 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,439 Speaker 4: guy might be better than this guy. And I mean 1835 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 4: everything you think you know in December, I just it 1836 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,160 Speaker 4: changes so quickly. 1837 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 1: Tyler in Providence writes in I have a seemingly hot 1838 01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 1: take as a Patriots fan. I want to see us 1839 01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 1: win these next two games to close out the season. 1840 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 1: Unless not mistaken, the Bills can't back into a playoff 1841 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,480 Speaker 1: spot with a loss this week, so we could contribute 1842 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 1: to them potentially missing the playoffs. And you always want 1843 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:09,720 Speaker 1: to see the Patriots beat the Jets no matter what 1844 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,479 Speaker 1: the scenario. If this really is Bill's last season with 1845 01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,720 Speaker 1: the team, it would be great to see him end 1846 01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,240 Speaker 1: it with a three game winning streak beating the Broncos 1847 01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,360 Speaker 1: in Denver, the defending East champs, and the Jets draft 1848 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,759 Speaker 1: position be Damn, that's tomorrow's problem. 1849 01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:23,439 Speaker 2: There you go. 1850 01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's there. 1851 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 14: It is. 1852 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 4: It's pretty crazy to think that they I mean eleven 1853 01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,479 Speaker 4: like Black Monday's eleven days away. You know, like all 1854 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,720 Speaker 4: these things are going to start to happen very very soon, 1855 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,599 Speaker 4: and it's going to change. Then the conversation, thank god, 1856 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 4: because I don't I think I could do this for 1857 01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:39,160 Speaker 4: the next three months. 1858 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 1: I agree, Uh, Mike in Connecticut. I always love the shows, 1859 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 1: but I think two of my favorite things that have 1860 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 1: happened a fair amount this year is when Mike says 1861 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 1: I don't know Jim like Romo, and whenever other teams 1862 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,479 Speaker 1: are talked about. I think it's become hysterical when when 1863 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,080 Speaker 1: Evan says, I know this isn't enter team here, unfiltered 1864 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 1: love all you guys have done during the terrible season, 1865 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,559 Speaker 1: keep it up and happy, I don't know Jim. 1866 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a classic class what they want ahead. 1867 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 4: It's like if you're gonna go see Earth winning Fire 1868 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,400 Speaker 4: and they didn't play, you know your reason. 1869 01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:17,519 Speaker 1: You know, thank you, thank you people calling in. I 1870 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 1: better get to them quick before they hang up. Oh yeah, 1871 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,759 Speaker 1: because you know their time is more precious than ours. Anyway, 1872 01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:24,479 Speaker 1: Sean's and Vancouver, what's up. 1873 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:29,519 Speaker 18: Sean heyd Hey everybody, I don't know how many of 1874 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,840 Speaker 18: you watched the Holiday Bowl last night, but you have 1875 01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:37,599 Speaker 18: a first time quarterback, Milan Moss throwing six touchdowns. Does 1876 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,759 Speaker 18: that say anything at all about Caleb Williams. 1877 01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a system quarterback. I'm just kidding. I did 1878 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 4: think I was wondering if we were if people were 1879 01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 4: going to throw that out here, But now I don't 1880 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 4: know if somebody made the comparison the answers, no, no, 1881 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,040 Speaker 4: maybe he's a good player and then he's gonna stick around, right, 1882 01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:52,840 Speaker 4: But everybody's talking about I think it was like twenty 1883 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 4: twenty Madden. This was like the setup and my son 1884 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 4: played this and you're literally like the setup. You get 1885 01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,479 Speaker 4: to like be a player, but the setup is like 1886 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,519 Speaker 4: your thrust into a championship game. You're like a backup 1887 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,400 Speaker 4: quarterback and you know they they you know, it's all 1888 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,600 Speaker 4: like the cut scenes and everything, and and then you 1889 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,760 Speaker 4: end up playing great and then you get or maybe not, 1890 01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,280 Speaker 4: but then you get drafted and that it kind of everything. 1891 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Bowl games are full of teams with guys 1892 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,320 Speaker 5: in the portal, out of the portal not playing. How 1893 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 5: did Drake Mace be projected? 1894 01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 14: Like? 1895 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,479 Speaker 5: But it doesn't like to me, it doesn't say anything 1896 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 5: because you don't have any idea who's playing hard, who's not, 1897 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 5: who's protecting himself, who's in the portal, whose coaches new like? 1898 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 5: USC has good players. Yeah, I mean, you can't just 1899 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 5: say Caleb Williams is a one man show. He's not. 1900 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,120 Speaker 5: USC's got a lot of talent. 1901 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,479 Speaker 1: Thanks Sean, appreciate the call. Let's go to Dennis in 1902 01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 1: East Boston. What's up, Dennis? 1903 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:50,559 Speaker 9: Hey, how's it going? 1904 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:50,880 Speaker 1: Guys? 1905 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 9: All right, I didn't I haven't really listened today. I 1906 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,760 Speaker 9: usually listened as the podcast, but I at the end 1907 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 9: of the show yesterday, I gotta say, I've always liked you, 1908 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,760 Speaker 9: no problems, but I like you even more now because you, 1909 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,120 Speaker 9: you know, lately been very pro Bill or at least 1910 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,640 Speaker 9: you know, relatives maybe some of the other guys, uh 1911 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 9: where it sort of appreciation, right. But the other thing 1912 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:17,800 Speaker 9: I noticed kind of at the end of the show 1913 01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 9: yesterday that I liked was you kind of start saying, look, 1914 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,600 Speaker 9: it doesn't matter who who was the cause of this. 1915 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,880 Speaker 9: It doesn't matter if you know a cat did it 1916 01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,800 Speaker 9: or whatever. I forget your exact analogy, but basically, they 1917 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,720 Speaker 9: won six super Bowls. They were in nine in this era. 1918 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,879 Speaker 9: And you were saying how you have so many memories 1919 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,640 Speaker 9: from the time and how enjoyable it was for you, 1920 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,600 Speaker 9: and I was just saying, wow, this echo is my 1921 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 9: exact sentiment. I love Bill, But the idea of who 1922 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,439 Speaker 9: was more important, Brady or Bill, it's just so what 1923 01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,120 Speaker 9: at this point we had so much I mean, you 1924 01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,680 Speaker 9: look at all the four professional sports League's thirty ish 1925 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 9: teams whatever, one hundred and twenty teams. You could be 1926 01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,559 Speaker 9: at any of these other markets a fan of any 1927 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,720 Speaker 9: other team. Nothing would have come to what we got 1928 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 9: to see as Pats fans for the last two decades. 1929 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,360 Speaker 9: And it's just it doesn't really matter who was the cause, 1930 01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 9: because we have all these great memories. We have Kansas 1931 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,960 Speaker 9: City and the AFC Championship. You know, we have Super 1932 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 9: Bowl forty nine, we have the first three out of four, 1933 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 9: we have twenty eight to three, all these amazing things 1934 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,200 Speaker 9: that you were saying, you remember where you were this 1935 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 9: this you know fact, you remember this setting who was there, 1936 01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,160 Speaker 9: and I think of the same things I have that 1937 01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 9: with my father, even if we weren't there, we're talking 1938 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,639 Speaker 9: about it on the phone, and it just I really 1939 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,400 Speaker 9: appreciated you, you know, bringing that up, because that's exactly 1940 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 9: how I feel as a fan and a listener. And 1941 01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,759 Speaker 9: it to me, it doesn't matter who was responsible because 1942 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:38,760 Speaker 9: what you said is true. 1943 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Dan, I's appreciate the cause that's why we 1944 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:43,160 Speaker 1: have to now. 1945 01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,080 Speaker 4: Well I mean, I mean he laid it out, but 1946 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,439 Speaker 4: that was I mean, just like at the end, it 1947 01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,760 Speaker 4: doesn't really matter like to me who got it. I 1948 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,200 Speaker 4: what I remember is the fun of watching it and 1949 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 4: watching it unfolded, and now we talk about how do 1950 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,200 Speaker 4: we get back there? Yeah, hopefully someday. 1951 01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,759 Speaker 1: Brad Brady in Kansas City rights And if the Patriots 1952 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,000 Speaker 1: end up with Joe All it might be good for 1953 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,679 Speaker 1: building up the team from the trenches, but in my opinion, 1954 01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,320 Speaker 1: this would be bad for the franchise. No one is 1955 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,559 Speaker 1: buying a Joe Alt jersey or waking up Sunday morning 1956 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,840 Speaker 1: saying to themselves, man, I can't wait to see Joe 1957 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,160 Speaker 1: Alt today. Even if the guy ends up being an 1958 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,200 Speaker 1: All Pro left tackle. The fans need a guy to 1959 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,519 Speaker 1: root for and cheer on. It's hard to do that 1960 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 1: with a shiny new left tackles. 1961 01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:25,280 Speaker 5: That's a worthwhile point. 1962 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:26,920 Speaker 4: I mean, but the team is, they need talent, they 1963 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,240 Speaker 4: need marketability, they need you know, things that put butts 1964 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,120 Speaker 4: in seats of training camp in these games. 1965 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I am not as high on. I mean, everything 1966 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 5: you said is true. You're absolutely right, but you got 1967 01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,720 Speaker 5: that's got to be part of it. But you got 1968 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,719 Speaker 5: to pick the guy you think is the best player, 1969 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,840 Speaker 5: not the guy you think is the sexiest player. Now, 1970 01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,920 Speaker 5: I as you know, I'm sexy. I want the sexiest player. 1971 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,760 Speaker 5: I mean, let's face it, you don't just look like this. 1972 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 1: I mean, come on. 1973 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 5: So, I mean I understand the need for a playmaker 1974 01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:01,519 Speaker 5: and like my Joe Thomas theory, but that that shouldn't 1975 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,920 Speaker 5: be because of marketing and you know, Jersey sales and 1976 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,560 Speaker 5: stuff like that. Yeah, he's right, and you're right, like 1977 01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,000 Speaker 5: Joe Walt's not gonna move the needle in terms of 1978 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:11,880 Speaker 5: but you know. 1979 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,240 Speaker 4: To your point, Joe traffic could couldn't enable the situation 1980 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 4: that the quarterback is able to become that player. 1981 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,559 Speaker 5: Right, if you're able to get like let's just say, 1982 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,640 Speaker 5: for argument's sake, that the Patriots become one of those outliers. 1983 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,360 Speaker 5: You know, the Russell Wilson's, the Dak Prescott's, the Brock Purties, 1984 01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,120 Speaker 5: these you know, Kirk Cousins, these Day three you know, 1985 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,680 Speaker 5: late day two, Day three quarterbacks that turn out to 1986 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,320 Speaker 5: be really good. There's a handful of them. There's not many, 1987 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,719 Speaker 5: but there are out there are some. Maybe the Patriots 1988 01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 5: become one of those. Maybe they get JJ McCarthy in 1989 01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,400 Speaker 5: the third round and he turns out to be Yeah, 1990 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,920 Speaker 5: your your next Tom Brady machine. Now it's pretty good 1991 01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,280 Speaker 5: that you have Joealt, you know, protecting his blind side. 1992 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 1993 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,599 Speaker 4: Now, it's it's totally reasonable. That's I mean, that's these 1994 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,559 Speaker 4: are the debates we're gonna have it going into. 1995 01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,840 Speaker 5: This that's I mean, I understand that's a big risk. 1996 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,599 Speaker 1: My second favorite player and Patriot's history is John Hannah. 1997 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1998 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,960 Speaker 1: It just is because he was just so good at 1999 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:04,519 Speaker 1: his craft. 2000 01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:06,679 Speaker 5: It's just because you're cerebral. 2001 01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 1: No, I just I just love I actually watched and 2002 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,680 Speaker 1: crack my top fifty. You know, I say I've said 2003 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,799 Speaker 1: it before in this show. I like when the Cowboys 2004 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,680 Speaker 1: are playing. I love watching Tyron Smith, like the way 2005 01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,840 Speaker 1: he watched that I do, the way he just manhandles 2006 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,880 Speaker 1: a guy, like like he gets on him in his 2007 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 1: first hit and that's it. 2008 01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:30,559 Speaker 5: It's over speaking like manhandling. Oh yeah, Paul, did anybody 2009 01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,360 Speaker 5: Over the past week, they've run it a lot, the 2010 01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:37,400 Speaker 5: thirty for thirty on Reggie White, Oh no, minister Max, 2011 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 5: Oh my god. They have a montage of the like 2012 01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 5: the step under, get the guy off balance, boom, and 2013 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 5: he just throws guys like tackles, big tackles with one arm, 2014 01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,240 Speaker 5: and it's just unbelievable that the clip, it's like a 2015 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,680 Speaker 5: thirty second clip of one after another, and there are 2016 01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,720 Speaker 5: all these huge offensive linemen. I don't know if I 2017 01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:01,599 Speaker 5: would if I ever, I was too young to focus 2018 01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,120 Speaker 5: on John and Chris Carter by. 2019 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 4: The highlights though, when you see Ohannah of oh my god, 2020 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,439 Speaker 4: oh yeah, just getting out in front of it, mad 2021 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:10,920 Speaker 4: dog looking at it like do that. 2022 01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,200 Speaker 5: But on the offensive side, I mean great, I mean, 2023 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,800 Speaker 5: just a great offensive lineman. I'm not saying that he's 2024 01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,200 Speaker 5: overrated or anything. It's just like you know, I mean, 2025 01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:19,599 Speaker 5: it's it's. 2026 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 4: Like every game you're watching him and being like you know, 2027 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:22,519 Speaker 4: but it's like when you see the highlights and it's 2028 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,160 Speaker 4: all compiled of his best stuff, You're like, oh. 2029 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 5: My god, this Mike Haynes, Stanley Mugany, you know, like 2030 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:28,599 Speaker 5: I'll watch those guys so over. 2031 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,080 Speaker 1: John Chris in New Hampshire. Uh. Yesterday, the old Bill 2032 01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,000 Speaker 1: versus Tom debates sparked up and a question formed in 2033 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,080 Speaker 1: my mind. What teams won a Super Bowl with one 2034 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,040 Speaker 1: so much talent that they won with the coaching staff 2035 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,920 Speaker 1: not mattering that much, or even despite their. 2036 01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,200 Speaker 5: Coach nineteen ninety Dallas Cowboys with Switzer. 2037 01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. And then two was 2038 01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,400 Speaker 1: so coached up that they want to spite the team's 2039 01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:53,160 Speaker 1: natural talent. 2040 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,160 Speaker 5: Two thousand and one New England Patriots. 2041 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:55,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2042 01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a lot of talent on that team, 2043 01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:02,599 Speaker 1: not yet on defense, not not yet like they became 2044 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:03,920 Speaker 1: said natural talent. 2045 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. I think that was one of the 2046 01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,479 Speaker 5: most amazing That to me would be the top of 2047 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,400 Speaker 5: my resume if I was Bill Belichick looking at Oh yeah, 2048 01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,519 Speaker 5: my job. That job that he did that year was amazing. 2049 01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:17,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they were, I mean, I know what 2050 01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,559 Speaker 4: you're saying, though, Fred, that they I mean Eventually those 2051 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 4: guys became people who are now in the Patriots Hall 2052 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:23,320 Speaker 4: of Fame. But at the time, did you know and 2053 01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,479 Speaker 4: the Hall Hall of Fame that Mike Frable was going 2054 01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:26,040 Speaker 4: to be that guy? 2055 01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, anyway, what Evan's not back yet? Right? 2056 01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:31,439 Speaker 5: Yeah? 2057 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:32,840 Speaker 1: Should I just wait? 2058 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,000 Speaker 5: We could try to wait a little bit. 2059 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:35,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, we could gotta go all the way out to 2060 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:36,760 Speaker 4: the bubble. 2061 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:38,000 Speaker 1: So we go. 2062 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:38,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2063 01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:38,880 Speaker 1: Maybe. 2064 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,560 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm glad I didn't say that because I was 2065 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:44,519 Speaker 5: thinking about it yesterday when I was driving in and 2066 01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:49,679 Speaker 5: I heard that the practice was moved inside. I'm gonna 2067 01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:53,320 Speaker 5: pull it, deuce, and I'm glad I didn't. 2068 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,760 Speaker 3: We were talking about how the branding still up but 2069 01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,400 Speaker 3: it's technically not it anymore, but they covered it up 2070 01:29:58,600 --> 01:29:59,280 Speaker 3: when I was driving in. 2071 01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the waste well, what is it? The waiste, bubble, 2072 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:10,280 Speaker 1: waste management, waste management, waste innovations, waste innovation. Yeah, Johnny 2073 01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:14,000 Speaker 1: rights in. People that claim those who want to tank 2074 01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:15,360 Speaker 1: aren't real fans. 2075 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,240 Speaker 5: In waste management don't when we're in the middle of 2076 01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:18,839 Speaker 5: a conversation. 2077 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,720 Speaker 1: I thought I had closed that conversation. The waste Innovations, 2078 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,880 Speaker 1: bubble field House. 2079 01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,600 Speaker 4: Well, hopefully they can innovate some of the waste on 2080 01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,559 Speaker 4: the Patriots and make it into good players. 2081 01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,920 Speaker 1: Johnny writes in people that claim those who want to 2082 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,080 Speaker 1: tank aren't real fans are short sighted and not willing 2083 01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,439 Speaker 1: to admit when the team they love needs drafts. 2084 01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,439 Speaker 5: Want to thank Anthony for getting a whole war started, 2085 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,000 Speaker 5: Patriots Nations Civil War. 2086 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,720 Speaker 1: I think either one, Like I said, whatever. 2087 01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,800 Speaker 3: You want to feel, don't other people think of you 2088 01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:56,880 Speaker 3: however you. 2089 01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,920 Speaker 5: Feel you feel, like I personally, like, I'm kind of 2090 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,960 Speaker 5: looking looking forward to this highest draft pick that you 2091 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:08,120 Speaker 5: can get, because I've never really had that, Like they 2092 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,920 Speaker 5: picked sixth in two thousand and one, Like it's been 2093 01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,400 Speaker 5: a long time since they've had big time, like like 2094 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 5: our draft party, Like how much better it's going to be? 2095 01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,439 Speaker 4: Short? Uh? Did you were you watching the draft when 2096 01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:26,000 Speaker 4: they took too but so oh of course? Really of 2097 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,840 Speaker 4: course just because of that or did you usually watch 2098 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,479 Speaker 4: the draft or just because the Patriots are got no? 2099 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:34,640 Speaker 5: I when I was younger than that, I used to 2100 01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,639 Speaker 5: watch the draft. Matter of fact, I skipped school wants 2101 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,439 Speaker 5: to watch it. Pretended I was sick, quote unquote not 2102 01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:44,240 Speaker 5: feeling well. There was eleven in me. I guess I 2103 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,000 Speaker 5: was just gonna say, I'm like, you skipped those and 2104 01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:52,560 Speaker 5: then yeah that that draft, Now that was because of 2105 01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,919 Speaker 5: the number one pick. I didn't watch the draft regularly. 2106 01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,360 Speaker 5: It's going to be so as an adult, so different. 2107 01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:00,479 Speaker 4: I mean it's I mean, I guess they pick Max 2108 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,800 Speaker 4: so that was him fifteenth, right, Like that wasn't And 2109 01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:04,880 Speaker 4: I was exciting too, but I mean I didn't like it, 2110 01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:06,439 Speaker 4: but it was exciting. But I mean, just right off 2111 01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,760 Speaker 4: the bat, how quickly things are probably going to happen, 2112 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,200 Speaker 4: assuming you know they're in the top five six picks. 2113 01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,639 Speaker 1: Ian from the UK Rights in do you think Bill 2114 01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:18,080 Speaker 1: Belichick's biggest mistake since Brady was twenty twenty? If he 2115 01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,519 Speaker 1: did want to reset, he should have rated the season 2116 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:24,439 Speaker 1: out with Stidham at quarterback and maybe we would have 2117 01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:26,719 Speaker 1: had a top five pick. It was the COVID season, 2118 01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:28,679 Speaker 1: so we would have had no fans in the stadium 2119 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,439 Speaker 1: booing and enough reason to justify the unique situation twenty 2120 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:33,080 Speaker 1: twenty was. 2121 01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 4: I've kind of thought about that, but like at the 2122 01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:36,960 Speaker 4: same time, it's it's like, well, you might ended up 2123 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:38,720 Speaker 4: with Trey Lance, you know, like like I don't know this. 2124 01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,080 Speaker 1: See I looked at him would have won as many games. 2125 01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:43,320 Speaker 5: I looked at it differently. I looked at it as 2126 01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,920 Speaker 5: you missed an opportunity to evaluate Jared stid It. Yeah, 2127 01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,320 Speaker 5: like maybe you wouldn't have you know, let's just say 2128 01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,560 Speaker 5: for arguments sake, I don't know if Jared Stidham is 2129 01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,960 Speaker 5: any good to find out this week, Okay, but even 2130 01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:55,760 Speaker 5: then you're not going, you know, like he played last year, 2131 01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:57,280 Speaker 5: the last couple of games. He played a great game 2132 01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,360 Speaker 5: against San Francisco when nobody, you know, was in him 2133 01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,040 Speaker 5: as a starter. But what if he played the last 2134 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,040 Speaker 5: four games and he played really well and you said, 2135 01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,760 Speaker 5: you know what, if we get a quarterback next year, 2136 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,040 Speaker 5: we get a quarterback, but if we don't, we can 2137 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:14,200 Speaker 5: start him. Yeah, you know, and maybe he did what 2138 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:15,240 Speaker 5: mac Jones. 2139 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,040 Speaker 4: Did, then maybe you give him. 2140 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,160 Speaker 5: So then maybe at fifteen instead of mac Jones, you 2141 01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,479 Speaker 5: pick somebody else. Yeah, yeah, you know, Like that's to me, 2142 01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,200 Speaker 5: the lost opportunity. Not that I think Jared Stidham is 2143 01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 5: a franchise quarterback, because I don't. I don't think he's 2144 01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,360 Speaker 5: a franchise quarterback. But I don't understand what the mentality, 2145 01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,640 Speaker 5: what the reasoning was to not let him play a 2146 01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,840 Speaker 5: game like it would have been the same as if 2147 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:37,960 Speaker 5: you just played out this. 2148 01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:39,280 Speaker 4: Year, Right, what do we get out of playing? 2149 01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,920 Speaker 5: He continuing to drag drag mac Jones out there this 2150 01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:43,200 Speaker 5: year instead of there was. 2151 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:44,439 Speaker 1: A whole thing going on with him. 2152 01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:48,000 Speaker 5: Don't you call about his admiration for Bill Belichick publicly? 2153 01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:48,760 Speaker 5: That's all it was. 2154 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:52,559 Speaker 1: So the want to and the injury and all that. Remember, 2155 01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:53,280 Speaker 1: I don't. 2156 01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,719 Speaker 5: I think that's garbage. I think that's all the wrong reasons. 2157 01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,600 Speaker 5: That's another point why I'm moving on. But that's, you know, 2158 01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:01,200 Speaker 5: one of the thing. Because he went he went to 2159 01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,840 Speaker 5: a wedding. That was his lack of want to. He 2160 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,200 Speaker 5: went to a wedding in the offseason, and I thought 2161 01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:10,000 Speaker 5: that was a sign that he was he was soft. 2162 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,559 Speaker 1: Ye will Wright sin to follow up on an earlier 2163 01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,840 Speaker 1: point about Tavi being happier and playing more freely and 2164 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,400 Speaker 1: yesterday's point about role players starting to show development. I 2165 01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:22,880 Speaker 1: read this as a bad look for Belichick and the 2166 01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,800 Speaker 1: need for more of a player's coach. Bill's coaching style 2167 01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,160 Speaker 1: is military like. Now that there is less at stake, 2168 01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,120 Speaker 1: we are starting to see the team playing looser and faster. 2169 01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,880 Speaker 5: And now that You've had a couple of guys, you know, 2170 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,200 Speaker 5: get nicked up in miss games, because that's what happens 2171 01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,719 Speaker 5: when you're four and eleven and all of a sudden, 2172 01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:42,679 Speaker 5: Mac Wilson, I'm hearing is playing in a different role 2173 01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,960 Speaker 5: that's maybe more conducive. Is that an indictment of coaching? 2174 01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,519 Speaker 5: Like you brought him in two years ago, you know, 2175 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:51,599 Speaker 5: you know, to fill a role and you didn't put 2176 01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:51,920 Speaker 5: him in it. 2177 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I'd throw Inphony Jennings into that team. 2178 01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:56,960 Speaker 5: Anthony Jennings is high on the list of that where 2179 01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,160 Speaker 5: he you know, we we. 2180 01:34:58,120 --> 01:34:59,720 Speaker 4: Played him on off the ball and he you know, 2181 01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:01,439 Speaker 4: was really I mean, and it's like, well, why didn't 2182 01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:02,640 Speaker 4: you realize he was going to be best at what 2183 01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,519 Speaker 4: he did at Alabama? And then the same thing with 2184 01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,439 Speaker 4: Mac Wilson now and they said, you know, look we 2185 01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,320 Speaker 4: there were things last year we didn't feel like I 2186 01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,960 Speaker 4: mean they, I mean Gerard yesterday admitted like we you know, 2187 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:12,240 Speaker 4: maybe didn't have him in the best place. 2188 01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,439 Speaker 5: I think, and again, role players not stars. 2189 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,840 Speaker 1: Role well, and I think Bill's done that a lot. 2190 01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:20,479 Speaker 1: Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But you often find 2191 01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:24,960 Speaker 1: like defensive guys, particularly upfront, being told to do a 2192 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,960 Speaker 1: specific thing, and they're not giving a lot of latitude 2193 01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:32,479 Speaker 1: to do a lot of maybe right now, Like honestly, 2194 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:36,479 Speaker 1: like you know, I think they just the custom. I think, yeah, 2195 01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,680 Speaker 1: like you know, maybe as good as Vince Wilfork was, 2196 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:45,240 Speaker 1: maybe he was pigeonholed a little bit. You know, like 2197 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,240 Speaker 1: when he came out of college, they called him baby 2198 01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,840 Speaker 1: Sap I remember, you know, but he really wasn't a 2199 01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:50,559 Speaker 1: sack guy. 2200 01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:51,320 Speaker 12: You know. 2201 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:54,960 Speaker 1: He was more of a you know, two gap type 2202 01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:58,600 Speaker 1: nose tackles, you know, get off like yeah, but they 2203 01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:02,080 Speaker 1: didn't want him doing that, you know, on defense. I 2204 01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:06,639 Speaker 1: think Bill's system kind of keeps guys, you know, from 2205 01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:11,000 Speaker 1: like getting the numbers and in that type. Like Seymour 2206 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:12,280 Speaker 1: is a good example. 2207 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,519 Speaker 5: Like he was great, but different things. 2208 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,719 Speaker 1: But like Seymour, if he had started out and the Raiders, 2209 01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,200 Speaker 1: he'd probably have been a big sack guy. 2210 01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,519 Speaker 5: But they didn't make Seymour play like out of position. 2211 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,040 Speaker 1: No, no, but they didn't. 2212 01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,400 Speaker 5: But the style, the system that they used was not 2213 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,519 Speaker 5: conducive to numbers to numbers right right. But I think 2214 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,519 Speaker 5: with like what Deuce is talking about, like with like 2215 01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,920 Speaker 5: Jennings is a little different, like but he's kind of out. 2216 01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,000 Speaker 1: Of and I think position Belichick kind of learned that 2217 01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:41,599 Speaker 1: from Parcels a little bit, because Parcels thing was always 2218 01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,519 Speaker 1: players need to know who they are, you know, and 2219 01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,160 Speaker 1: try not to do things that they can't do. And 2220 01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:50,280 Speaker 1: sometimes players are like, no, no, I can do more, 2221 01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:56,160 Speaker 1: and then the coach disagrees. You know, Evan's back, and 2222 01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:59,880 Speaker 1: then as you're tight, and then used. 2223 01:36:59,760 --> 01:36:59,880 Speaker 5: To be. 2224 01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:09,680 Speaker 1: All right, Evan, what do you got? 2225 01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:11,840 Speaker 5: I want Mike to talk on this for a second. 2226 01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're I know it hurts your feelings that it's 2227 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,800 Speaker 6: not your song anymore, and I just like, let it out, man, 2228 01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:18,360 Speaker 6: let it out. 2229 01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,000 Speaker 4: It's all right. Let's just say I'm having some high 2230 01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:24,040 Speaker 4: level conversations with certain music producer that shall be remain 2231 01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,080 Speaker 4: anonymous at this point. But there might be a due 2232 01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:26,960 Speaker 4: song in the works. 2233 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,400 Speaker 1: Oh you want, you want your song. 2234 01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:31,519 Speaker 5: I don't know what it will be about or what 2235 01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:33,439 Speaker 5: it will be for, but but there might be looking 2236 01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:34,880 Speaker 5: forward to this I am. 2237 01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:36,000 Speaker 4: Maybe that'll let me sing on it. 2238 01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:36,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2239 01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:40,080 Speaker 5: I won't forget you Belichick, don't ask me to sing. Oh. 2240 01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:46,080 Speaker 4: Oh, you just might have sparked something. He's writing down notes. 2241 01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:52,719 Speaker 5: I need my recorder, Star Kiss. 2242 01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:58,479 Speaker 4: Speaking, We'll forget. I had to find out you can. 2243 01:37:58,479 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 5: You can still do it, man, you still got it. 2244 01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:01,360 Speaker 4: I liked I like to sing. 2245 01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,160 Speaker 6: You're gonna You're gonna sing it on on June twelfth, Right, 2246 01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:05,920 Speaker 6: that's what I heard. 2247 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,519 Speaker 4: I heard they're gonna come out. I'm gonna play with 2248 01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,800 Speaker 4: bon Jovie. I am hoping that we can make that happen. 2249 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:11,400 Speaker 4: I've got to talk to other people putting it together, 2250 01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:12,519 Speaker 4: but hopefully on the stage. 2251 01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:14,120 Speaker 5: All right, we got to hurt it, so. 2252 01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,040 Speaker 1: Uh out. 2253 01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:21,360 Speaker 6: At Patriots practice today, we have four absences, Juju Smith 2254 01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:26,320 Speaker 6: Schuster with the ankle, Jabriel Pepper's hamstring, Jayalen Mill's concussion, 2255 01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,720 Speaker 6: and we do not know about Kai Shan Booty but. 2256 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:30,559 Speaker 5: He was not there. 2257 01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:31,519 Speaker 13: Unknown. 2258 01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:33,400 Speaker 5: So Trent Brown was Trent Brown. 2259 01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:40,840 Speaker 6: Trent Brown returned and I kidch you not literally hacked 2260 01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:43,640 Speaker 6: up along, like right in front of me, so that 2261 01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,960 Speaker 6: illness like maybe it was legit, all right, So I'm sorry, Trent, 2262 01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,320 Speaker 6: or maybe he just doesn't like you, I mean, probably 2263 01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 6: after the things I've said about him. But yeah, Trent 2264 01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,680 Speaker 6: Brown was back based off of what we saw, though 2265 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,680 Speaker 6: I would still expect to see the Darian Lowe at 2266 01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:04,000 Speaker 6: left tackle if not like a rotation again, but yeah, 2267 01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:08,080 Speaker 6: those were the absences. Your boy Gabriel was present but 2268 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:09,320 Speaker 6: not participating. 2269 01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,280 Speaker 5: I like that, so maybe maybe were Yeah. 2270 01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,040 Speaker 4: I was wondering if maybe tourist hamstring, you know, like 2271 01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:15,360 Speaker 4: then it's like a big deal. 2272 01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:20,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, So okay, that's the report weather, you want to 2273 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:21,240 Speaker 5: get to it. 2274 01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:22,519 Speaker 1: He kind of mild. 2275 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,000 Speaker 5: Indoors, indoors. 2276 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,559 Speaker 6: They were indoors, indoors, second day in a row. 2277 01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:27,719 Speaker 1: What was the temp indoors? 2278 01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:33,120 Speaker 6: Well, they had the garage doors open open. They're trying 2279 01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:36,000 Speaker 6: to I think, you know, trying just because it's short 2280 01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:37,240 Speaker 6: practice the rain. 2281 01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:38,439 Speaker 4: It's raining out there. 2282 01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,840 Speaker 5: I thought that stopped rain when but they are trying 2283 01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:43,200 Speaker 5: to get it. 2284 01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:44,240 Speaker 1: Never rains or snows. 2285 01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:48,400 Speaker 5: And I was just gonna say it, Well, they know 2286 01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:53,519 Speaker 5: they're you know, they're getting the aired all right, all right? 2287 01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:57,439 Speaker 6: Not pads, no pads, No, No another light day with 2288 01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,200 Speaker 6: no pads yesterday either. 2289 01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,160 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, there you go. All right, Paul, are 2290 01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,519 Speaker 1: you equipped to tell us what happened last week after? 2291 01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,320 Speaker 4: I'll fill in all right, allow me please? 2292 01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:07,559 Speaker 14: Now? 2293 01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:13,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, so, um, Christmas Day killed everybody. Everybody was doing 2294 01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:17,200 Speaker 5: reasonably well and everybody lost all of the games. So 2295 01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:21,400 Speaker 5: four way tie Mike, Alex, Paul, Fred ten and six, 2296 01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:27,120 Speaker 5: Evan nine and seven. Uh. With the spread, it's only 2297 01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:31,080 Speaker 5: one guy at the top for that Paul ten and six, 2298 01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:37,040 Speaker 5: follow by Fred Alex eight and eight, Mike Evan seven 2299 01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:42,000 Speaker 5: and nine. So Alex, you're breathing down my neck. No, 2300 01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,000 Speaker 5: I can't kept. I can't make up any grounds. Really 2301 01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,920 Speaker 5: both went ten and six. Well, yeah, I'm not making 2302 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,240 Speaker 5: up any ground. One week the week after one eighty 2303 01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:54,720 Speaker 5: eight for Alex one forty nine and ninety one for 2304 01:40:54,880 --> 01:41:01,519 Speaker 5: Paul one forty five, ninety five for Mike, and Evan 2305 01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,160 Speaker 5: and Fred are tied at one forty three and ninety seven. 2306 01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:04,800 Speaker 4: I like that. 2307 01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:08,719 Speaker 5: Can't finish in the basement. This is just a blowout. 2308 01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,400 Speaker 5: When it comes to a scroll, Paul one twenty five, 2309 01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:15,000 Speaker 5: one o four and eleven pressive the only other one 2310 01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:19,800 Speaker 5: above five hundred, congrats Alex one fifteen one fourteen one 2311 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:20,679 Speaker 5: eleven making. 2312 01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:23,439 Speaker 4: Money barely ten ten games behind. 2313 01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,920 Speaker 5: It's actually probably losing money with the straight up as 2314 01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,160 Speaker 5: the one, the big, the big, let's see. 2315 01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:30,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 2316 01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:35,559 Speaker 5: After Alex, it is Evan and Fred again one ten, one, 2317 01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:38,080 Speaker 5: nineteen and eleven. Do we just make the same picks 2318 01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:42,920 Speaker 5: for it and Mike one all four, one twenty five 2319 01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:45,160 Speaker 5: in eleven. So it's the opposite. 2320 01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,240 Speaker 4: You make it seem so easy, Paul. You's just you're 2321 01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:49,240 Speaker 4: just a natural reading these things. I don't know where 2322 01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:49,760 Speaker 4: you get it from. 2323 01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:53,600 Speaker 5: Somehow, you just take the record that's better than the 2324 01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:55,679 Speaker 5: others and read that one first. 2325 01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:56,200 Speaker 4: Interesting. 2326 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:59,160 Speaker 5: Interesting, It's a different kind of mentality. 2327 01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:00,320 Speaker 4: I got to get it, all right. 2328 01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,519 Speaker 5: So we got the Thursday night game, Freddy. We got 2329 01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:08,360 Speaker 5: the New York Jets of New Jersey against the red 2330 01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:13,040 Speaker 5: hot Cleveland Browns. In Cleveland Browns by seven and a half. 2331 01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:17,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take I'll take Cleveland seven and a half points. 2332 01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:20,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna lay them. Yeah, bolts go. 2333 01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:24,720 Speaker 5: I don't know what that means. I mean he's taking Cleveland, Yes, 2334 01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 5: But if you lay the points, that means you're taking 2335 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,479 Speaker 5: the favorite. If you're taking the points, that means you're 2336 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:31,280 Speaker 5: taking the underdog. 2337 01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,599 Speaker 4: Wow, look at me. I need something about gambling there. 2338 01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:38,200 Speaker 5: You I blame fred. I'll forget that Cleveland Cleveland. 2339 01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,120 Speaker 4: I want to ask fred to explain the fig to me, 2340 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:41,160 Speaker 4: but we'll. 2341 01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,640 Speaker 6: Say that I'm gonna go Cleveland one tend to make 2342 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,639 Speaker 6: a hundred Cleveland Cleveland as well, and I can't believe 2343 01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:47,719 Speaker 6: the Jets already said Robert Solo is coming. 2344 01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:52,280 Speaker 5: Back to Cleveland Cleveland again. Yeah. I will definitely take Cleveland. However, 2345 01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:58,519 Speaker 5: I will take the points the Browns. I love Joe Flacco, 2346 01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:01,080 Speaker 5: as you know. I just like this carriage ride has 2347 01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:05,840 Speaker 5: to he throws picks and bunches still right, like it's three. 2348 01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,880 Speaker 5: He had a drew game last week three andred yards, 2349 01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:12,479 Speaker 5: three touchdowns, three picks, So like at some point like 2350 01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:14,400 Speaker 5: the touchdowns aren't going to come in the fourth quarter. 2351 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:15,519 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take the points. 2352 01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd me too, Browns both ways. All right, So 2353 01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:21,200 Speaker 1: you're back, Yeah, I'm back. I just had to send 2354 01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:25,840 Speaker 1: an email Saturday night, Saturday, and this is at eight 2355 01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:28,720 Speaker 1: fifteen on ESPN, ABC, ESPN two. 2356 01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,720 Speaker 5: We only have one game on Saturday, ESPN. 2357 01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:37,600 Speaker 1: Plus and ESPN ESPN Deportes covering the full gamut. Uh, 2358 01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:41,200 Speaker 1: the eleven and four Lions are at the ten and five. 2359 01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,679 Speaker 5: Cowboys Dallas by six. 2360 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:46,760 Speaker 4: Oh boy, this is a tough one to pick. I 2361 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,920 Speaker 4: see these teams kind of similarly. Is there only one 2362 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,000 Speaker 4: game on I'm gonna take Dallas to win, but I'm 2363 01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,840 Speaker 4: gonna take the points for Detroit. 2364 01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:55,040 Speaker 5: Zoki. 2365 01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing. 2366 01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,559 Speaker 6: I like the Cowboys Bowl both ways. 2367 01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,320 Speaker 5: They're at home. They played different at home. Yeah, I 2368 01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:07,800 Speaker 5: like the Cowboys. I also like Dallas both ways. Coming 2369 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:11,160 Speaker 5: off a two game losing streak, and I don't know 2370 01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:14,040 Speaker 5: if you heard, but the Lions clinched the division last week. 2371 01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:17,120 Speaker 5: I really didn't get much play. I think the Lions 2372 01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:20,280 Speaker 5: are probably still celebrating that. So I will take the 2373 01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:21,439 Speaker 5: Cowboys both ways. 2374 01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Lions in the upset. Oh so, folks, 2375 01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:28,000 Speaker 1: this is your upset now. 2376 01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:31,000 Speaker 5: That is a good, solid upset lock of the week. Ready, Yeah, 2377 01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,040 Speaker 5: good job, go for the Lions. Good job. You're already 2378 01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:35,720 Speaker 5: out of contention anyway, so good job. 2379 01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:39,040 Speaker 1: Now we go to Sunday at one, the eleven and 2380 01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,839 Speaker 1: four Dolphins are at the twelve and three Ravens. 2381 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,559 Speaker 5: Another good game, Ravens by three and a half. 2382 01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,280 Speaker 6: AFC Championship Game preview Yeah. 2383 01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:50,640 Speaker 1: Possibly, I know. 2384 01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:51,960 Speaker 4: I think two was a little banged up too. I'm 2385 01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:52,920 Speaker 4: gonna take Baltimore at home. 2386 01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,120 Speaker 5: I'll lay the points me too. 2387 01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:56,360 Speaker 3: I'm loving Baltimore lately. 2388 01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going Baltimore as well. That defense as good 2389 01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,360 Speaker 6: as a little Jackson is that they're cooking something up 2390 01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:03,200 Speaker 6: on that defense. 2391 01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:05,480 Speaker 4: I mean, how do they stop brock Perty. 2392 01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:07,639 Speaker 6: Right, That's what I'm saying. I'm a Hall of Fame quarterback. 2393 01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:08,560 Speaker 6: I don't know how you stopped it. 2394 01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree, very impressive performance to hold that 2395 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:16,120 Speaker 5: kind of a quarterback in check. I will take the Ravens, 2396 01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,320 Speaker 5: but I will take the hook. I will take Miami 2397 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,080 Speaker 5: to lose by a field goal. I think Baltimore also, 2398 01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:23,400 Speaker 5: you know, coming across the country after a huge win, 2399 01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:25,240 Speaker 5: maybe a little bit of a letdown. 2400 01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Ravens. I'm thinking that John 2401 01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,599 Speaker 1: Harbaugh might be the best coach right now in the NFL. 2402 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:38,920 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, So this would be if we're right and 2403 01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:42,519 Speaker 5: Baltimore wins. This game likely sets up a huge game 2404 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:44,960 Speaker 5: for the last game with Buffalo and Miami for the 2405 01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:46,840 Speaker 5: division in the number two seed. 2406 01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,760 Speaker 1: So I'm going with the Ravens. One o'clock CBS seven 2407 01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:54,240 Speaker 1: and eight. Falcons are at the six and nine. 2408 01:45:54,200 --> 01:46:00,400 Speaker 5: Bears Chicago by three. This is nobody watched in between 2409 01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:03,080 Speaker 5: two teams that I do not believe I've picked correctly 2410 01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:03,719 Speaker 5: all season. 2411 01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:06,679 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go to Chicago at home, alay the points. 2412 01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:13,519 Speaker 3: I'll take the Bears to win all take the Falcons 2413 01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:13,920 Speaker 3: to cover. 2414 01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,120 Speaker 6: I'll go Chicago Chicago. Just picked the home team. 2415 01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:20,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Chicago Chicago too. But man, I 2416 01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,840 Speaker 5: just I cannot pick the Falcons for the Bears. 2417 01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:27,479 Speaker 1: I'm tempted to take Yeah, I know, I'm tempted to 2418 01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:32,120 Speaker 1: take the Falcons both ways, but I'll split the difference Bears, 2419 01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,840 Speaker 1: but I'll take the points. Sunday at one, the five 2420 01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:39,599 Speaker 1: and ten Titans are at the eight and seven Texans. 2421 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,920 Speaker 5: Houston by four and a half. Looks like CJ. Stroud 2422 01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,320 Speaker 5: is tracking to play clear to go. 2423 01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:48,360 Speaker 4: Uh, that's good news. I'm gonna take Houston all lay 2424 01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:48,759 Speaker 4: the points. 2425 01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:54,519 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Houston onlay the points as well. 2426 01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:58,160 Speaker 6: Houston Houston. I think the Titans are bad. 2427 01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:00,720 Speaker 4: What excuse me? 2428 01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:02,920 Speaker 1: Five wins doesn't do it for you? 2429 01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:07,400 Speaker 5: No bad team? Yeah, but they do generally keeps. 2430 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:09,000 Speaker 3: They hang around. 2431 01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:14,639 Speaker 5: That was supposed to be secast the try. He hasn't 2432 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:18,679 Speaker 5: lost the loom. I I will take Houston both ways. 2433 01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Titans to cover. So there you go. 2434 01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,719 Speaker 5: That's for Verbel. One's for ones for Mike. 2435 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,040 Speaker 1: Sunday at one, seven and eight Raiders or at the 2436 01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:32,000 Speaker 1: eight and seven. 2437 01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:36,040 Speaker 5: Colts Colts by three and a half, Colds by three 2438 01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:36,479 Speaker 5: and a half. 2439 01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:39,519 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go the upset on this one. I'm gonna 2440 01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:40,439 Speaker 4: take the Raiders. 2441 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Colts to win. I'm gonna take 2442 01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:47,720 Speaker 3: the Raiders to cover. 2443 01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,280 Speaker 6: I'm gonna take the Colts both ways. I just think 2444 01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,360 Speaker 6: the Raiders had their one, their one minute in the sun. 2445 01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:56,680 Speaker 1: They're playing pretty. 2446 01:47:56,400 --> 01:48:00,760 Speaker 5: Good day Jack Jones. Zach Jones was not good in 2447 01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:04,759 Speaker 5: that game, but what are you talking about? Patrick Mahomes 2448 01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,000 Speaker 5: completed like five passes, all of them at Jack Jones. 2449 01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:07,720 Speaker 4: What about that one? 2450 01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:11,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, there was one. I'm gonna take the Raiders both ways. 2451 01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:14,320 Speaker 5: I think that was a big loss for the Colts 2452 01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,200 Speaker 5: last week and kind of reality check for them. 2453 01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Colts both ways to beat 2454 01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:21,120 Speaker 1: the Raiders. 2455 01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:22,200 Speaker 5: Interesting game though. 2456 01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:26,080 Speaker 1: Sunday one, the two and thirteen Panthers are at the 2457 01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,439 Speaker 1: eight and seven Jaguars. 2458 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,879 Speaker 5: Jags by six and a half, and I have absolutely 2459 01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:33,479 Speaker 5: no idea who's playing for the Jags. 2460 01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:35,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, it seems like like Trevor Lawrence 2461 01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:36,880 Speaker 4: got a new injury every week. 2462 01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:39,240 Speaker 5: I do not think they've done him any favors by 2463 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:42,120 Speaker 5: trotting him out there every week with one injury after another. 2464 01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,000 Speaker 4: I'll take Jacksonville at home, but I'm gonna take the 2465 01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:44,960 Speaker 4: points for Carolina. 2466 01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:48,200 Speaker 3: I think they keep it closeweet. 2467 01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:50,120 Speaker 5: Six and a half. 2468 01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:56,759 Speaker 6: Apparently Trevor Lawrence is practicing, but it's definitely a decision, 2469 01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:58,400 Speaker 6: you know, up in the air whether or not he's 2470 01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:02,360 Speaker 6: going to play. I am gonna go with the Jaguars. 2471 01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,200 Speaker 6: I am going to take the points though. 2472 01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,720 Speaker 5: For the Panthers, yeah, me too. You know, I think 2473 01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:13,439 Speaker 5: Jacksonville has a lot of issues with health and they're 2474 01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:15,200 Speaker 5: just not playing very well when they're in the midst 2475 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:16,280 Speaker 5: of an epic collapse. 2476 01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,479 Speaker 4: They were eight and three, I know, yeah, what they said. 2477 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:23,000 Speaker 1: I'll take Jaguars, but I'll take the points. Sunday at 2478 01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:27,760 Speaker 1: one eight and seven Rams dangerous team these days. At 2479 01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:29,760 Speaker 1: the five and ten Giants. 2480 01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:35,320 Speaker 5: The Rams by five and a half. Taylor, Yes, Taylor's 2481 01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:36,200 Speaker 5: playing good luck. 2482 01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:38,679 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Rams. I'll take the I'll play the points. 2483 01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:39,840 Speaker 14: MS. 2484 01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:43,600 Speaker 5: I'm also taking the Rams. I like the Rams. I 2485 01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:44,880 Speaker 5: think the Rams are a little frisky. 2486 01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:45,519 Speaker 4: It's paulst team. 2487 01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:47,320 Speaker 6: You can't like them if they get into the playoffs 2488 01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:48,400 Speaker 6: in the NFC. 2489 01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,880 Speaker 1: A little frisky despite the quarterback at Detroit. 2490 01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:55,920 Speaker 5: Good because they're they're my team for two very you 2491 01:49:56,000 --> 01:50:02,479 Speaker 5: know basic reason Stafford and the destructed the absolute destruction 2492 01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,200 Speaker 5: of cap jail as being a thing. 2493 01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:05,639 Speaker 4: I thought you could say pooking the cool. 2494 01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:09,760 Speaker 5: But I will take the Rams. But five and a 2495 01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:13,000 Speaker 5: half at the medal at the Metal Longs, I will 2496 01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:14,680 Speaker 5: take those points the travel game. 2497 01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Rams giants, I'll take the points. 2498 01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,120 Speaker 5: To who you are you picking the Rams to win? 2499 01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,880 Speaker 5: I said, Rams giants, Okay, that's the's who's playing in 2500 01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:24,320 Speaker 5: the game. So I didn't know who you were picking 2501 01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:24,800 Speaker 5: in the game. 2502 01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:28,240 Speaker 4: Both you guys are like a comedy team. 2503 01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:34,320 Speaker 1: Mothers of them Yeah, mothers died yeh, yesterday, I missed it. Yeah, 2504 01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:36,320 Speaker 1: shut up, you don't know them. 2505 01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:39,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll talk about later. 2506 01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:43,200 Speaker 1: They had nothing to do with football. Sunday at one, 2507 01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:46,600 Speaker 1: the three and twelve Cardinals are at the eleven and 2508 01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:47,559 Speaker 1: four Eagles. 2509 01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:48,839 Speaker 5: Eagles by eleven. 2510 01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,759 Speaker 4: That goes up to eleven. I'm gonna take the Eagles Askret, 2511 01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:57,639 Speaker 4: I'm gonna lay them. I'll lay eleven. Philly, Philly, Billy Dilly. 2512 01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, like Philly both. They usually don't like spreads this big, 2513 01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,480 Speaker 6: but I think the Cardinals have been been spiraling. 2514 01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Philly, but I will take the eleven. 2515 01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:10,000 Speaker 5: I didn't like what I saw in Philadelphia on Christmas. 2516 01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Paul. I'm gonna take Philly, but I 2517 01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:16,960 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals would be frisky in this game. One o'clock. 2518 01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:18,719 Speaker 1: Still a lot of what a lot of one o'clock? 2519 01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:18,920 Speaker 14: Game? 2520 01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:24,919 Speaker 1: Seven and eight Saints are at the eight and seven Buccaneers. 2521 01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:26,840 Speaker 5: The Bucks by two and a half. 2522 01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,040 Speaker 1: Oh wow, really, let Baker bake? 2523 01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:29,800 Speaker 5: Why what do you have? 2524 01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:31,679 Speaker 4: I like that? No, I just that was that seemed 2525 01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:34,080 Speaker 4: like a small spread to me. I'm gonna take Tampa 2526 01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,400 Speaker 4: and I'll just those little two and a half firs. 2527 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,400 Speaker 6: I'm going Bucks both ways. That's a low spread for them. 2528 01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:42,519 Speaker 6: No respect for Baker. 2529 01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,120 Speaker 5: I know there's like a one one game difference between 2530 01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:48,000 Speaker 5: these two teams. Okay, but Baker's cooking. Oh okay, then 2531 01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:49,360 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Tampa twice. 2532 01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,320 Speaker 1: Bake. Baker's baking. Paul's just being no. 2533 01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:54,799 Speaker 5: I'm taking the Bucks both. I think it's a regular 2534 01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:57,200 Speaker 5: spread though, I mean eight and seven against seven and 2535 01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,200 Speaker 5: eight division watching. 2536 01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:02,680 Speaker 1: You're not watching how they playing. Letch not hearing Buccaneers 2537 01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,720 Speaker 1: both ways Sunday at one eleven and four forty nine 2538 01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:09,280 Speaker 1: Ers at the four and eleven Commanders. 2539 01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:13,800 Speaker 5: Uh, San Francisco by twelve and a half. Oh, that's it. 2540 01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:17,080 Speaker 4: I thought that might be a good Lord Kyle Shanahan 2541 01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,280 Speaker 4: returns to the place where him and a bunch of 2542 01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:23,000 Speaker 4: people did good jobs. I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take 2543 01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:23,760 Speaker 4: San Francisco. 2544 01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:25,480 Speaker 5: No one gives you that kind of analysis. 2545 01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:31,799 Speaker 4: I'm trying to be quick here, sugar, that's a tough one. Screwt. 2546 01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:33,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take. I'm gonna lay to the Actually know what, 2547 01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:35,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the points. 2548 01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:36,719 Speaker 5: For Kobe Brissette. 2549 01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:38,880 Speaker 6: Great coaching staff in Washington there. 2550 01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:43,880 Speaker 3: I wish Jacobe well, but Niners win, Niners points, get 2551 01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:44,360 Speaker 3: right game. 2552 01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:48,600 Speaker 6: I do love Jake Brisket a lot, but I am 2553 01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,000 Speaker 6: going to take the Niners both ways. I think they 2554 01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:53,080 Speaker 6: really take out last week out. 2555 01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,760 Speaker 5: On the Yeah, I agree, I have no problems laying 2556 01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:56,439 Speaker 5: the twelve and a half. 2557 01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean as long as the forty nine Ers are 2558 01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:02,120 Speaker 1: playing an NFC team, take the forty nine. That's a 2559 01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:06,920 Speaker 1: dig on the NFC. Now we skip over. Now we 2560 01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,160 Speaker 1: skip over the Patriots. At one o'clock and we go 2561 01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,559 Speaker 1: to four oh five. The eight and seven Steelers are 2562 01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:15,040 Speaker 1: at the eight and seven Seahawks. 2563 01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:16,439 Speaker 5: Seattle by three and a half. 2564 01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:19,840 Speaker 4: I'll take Seattle at home. A lay the points, small. 2565 01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:24,719 Speaker 5: Spread, you think, so you take the points, lay the points. 2566 01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:27,800 Speaker 1: That means he's not taking the pointy. 2567 01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:27,880 Speaker 5: What I mean? 2568 01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:29,720 Speaker 3: Seattle Seattle Ley? 2569 01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:31,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like this. 2570 01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:33,880 Speaker 6: I like Seattle both ways. A little little spider me 2571 01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:37,040 Speaker 6: me meme. Game here, two teams. 2572 01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:40,960 Speaker 5: I will take Seattle. I will take the hook three 2573 01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:44,280 Speaker 5: and a half Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh loses by a field goal. 2574 01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:48,000 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to take Seattle both ways. Uh four five. 2575 01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:51,760 Speaker 1: The five and ten Chargers are at the seven and 2576 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,800 Speaker 1: eight Broncos. Boy, this should be off the. 2577 01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,280 Speaker 4: Still stick versus Jared Stidham. 2578 01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:58,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, good game, good game. 2579 01:53:58,880 --> 01:53:59,920 Speaker 5: Denver by three and a half. 2580 01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,479 Speaker 4: Good lord. I'm just I'm going to take Denver at home. 2581 01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,280 Speaker 4: I'm not really, That's really the only reason I can 2582 01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:07,040 Speaker 4: think of to pick him. 2583 01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:09,240 Speaker 1: Do Sean Payton lost the locker room. 2584 01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:15,360 Speaker 5: Maybe the only thing is ten minutes left tie the game. 2585 01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:21,240 Speaker 1: But I don't think Wilson is beloved in the locker no, 2586 01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:21,560 Speaker 1: I know. 2587 01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:23,840 Speaker 5: I think Wilson is one of the more I think 2588 01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:24,479 Speaker 5: if he was. 2589 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:28,200 Speaker 1: I think if he was, it would be bad for Peyton. 2590 01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,120 Speaker 1: But I don't think people care about Russell. 2591 01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:34,480 Speaker 5: Wilson because he's been a pretty selfish player in his career. 2592 01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,000 Speaker 3: I mean, even Shawn is on the record saying he 2593 01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:38,680 Speaker 3: can't even reach out to him directly. 2594 01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2595 01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:44,640 Speaker 3: I'm taking the Broncos rallying. 2596 01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:49,040 Speaker 6: I'm going to take the Chargers easton stick. They were, 2597 01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:52,360 Speaker 6: they were competitive against Buffalo last week, and I think 2598 01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:56,800 Speaker 6: this Broncos team is done. Sean Payton though, like I overrated, overrated. 2599 01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:00,480 Speaker 6: Everybody comes at it and says, oh, Bill is like 2600 01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:03,440 Speaker 6: a product of Brady, Sean Payton is a product. 2601 01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:04,720 Speaker 5: Of Drew Brees. And I think that we can in 2602 01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:08,200 Speaker 5: the supermot like unbelievable, So both overrated that in your mind? 2603 01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:11,160 Speaker 5: Bill and Chompayton, No, just Champaigon. Oh okay, that's right, 2604 01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:11,880 Speaker 5: that's what I thought. 2605 01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:15,560 Speaker 6: Bill Champagon coach Sean Payton's pants off. 2606 01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:17,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I will take the Broncos. 2607 01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:22,160 Speaker 1: That's a tough one because I do give the Charges 2608 01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:25,880 Speaker 1: credit for last week's effort. But I'm going to take 2609 01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,200 Speaker 1: the Broncos. I think show a little bit of an 2610 01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:31,400 Speaker 1: edge there in the coaching. Uh four twenty five, eight 2611 01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:34,839 Speaker 1: and seven Bengals at the nine and six. 2612 01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:40,600 Speaker 5: Chiefs, Minnesota by one and a half Minnesota. Sorry, I skipped. 2613 01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:42,040 Speaker 5: I skipped down to Green Bay right. 2614 01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:42,320 Speaker 3: Uh? 2615 01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:45,760 Speaker 5: Since Kansas City by seven seven, I apologize. 2616 01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,560 Speaker 4: I will take Kansas City, but I'm going to give 2617 01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:52,520 Speaker 4: Kansas City those points Kansas City, and I'll take Cincinnati points. 2618 01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:55,680 Speaker 5: Cincinnati points. Okay, see he didn't say that one right now? Sorry, 2619 01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:56,480 Speaker 5: that was a fredism. 2620 01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,880 Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm I'm going to give it to the Chiefs 2621 01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:00,680 Speaker 3: both ways. 2622 01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:02,800 Speaker 1: Are you? Wow? 2623 01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:08,320 Speaker 5: Oh my god, Jesus Taylor Swift may not like that 2624 01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,920 Speaker 5: even I every once in a while let one go. 2625 01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:13,920 Speaker 5: That was inappropriate? 2626 01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:17,480 Speaker 3: Is that? 2627 01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:18,400 Speaker 5: Hr online? 2628 01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,600 Speaker 6: I'm gonna take the Chiefs, but I'm gonna take the 2629 01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:24,960 Speaker 6: points for the Bengals. 2630 01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:27,680 Speaker 5: I I just don't like what I'm seeing for Kansas City. 2631 01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:30,160 Speaker 5: I don't like it at all. Me too, same thing 2632 01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:32,240 Speaker 5: Kansas City. But I'll take the points. 2633 01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like it either, but I gotta imagine 2634 01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:40,080 Speaker 1: that they're gonna get something together against the Bengals. I'll 2635 01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:44,480 Speaker 1: take the Chiefs both ways. Uh. Now, there's only a 2636 01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:48,080 Speaker 1: Sunday night game this week. No Monday night game. Uh, 2637 01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:49,839 Speaker 1: Sunday night and be sure. 2638 01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:53,240 Speaker 5: They night game. You get the college playoffs, can't wait. 2639 01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it go Alabama. Uh seven and eight 2640 01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,680 Speaker 1: Packers at the seven and eight Vikings. 2641 01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,120 Speaker 5: By one and a half. May have already let the 2642 01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:04,880 Speaker 5: cat out of the back. Jaren Hall is playing for 2643 01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:05,520 Speaker 5: the Vikings. 2644 01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:06,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take green Bay. 2645 01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:07,280 Speaker 1: Please. 2646 01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:10,760 Speaker 5: The four hundred yards that Nick Bullen's put up last 2647 01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:14,760 Speaker 5: week not good enough? Many are you taking? 2648 01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:15,600 Speaker 4: I got green Bay? 2649 01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:16,520 Speaker 5: Please green Bay. 2650 01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:22,040 Speaker 3: I hate this game, but I'm gonna go with the Sharps. 2651 01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:25,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Vikings at home, Green Bay. 2652 01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:34,920 Speaker 5: Jared Hall's kind of p y, you guys, I'm gonna take. 2653 01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:36,880 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Minnesota. 2654 01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul's right. I've been I've been betting against Minnesota 2655 01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:44,400 Speaker 1: all year and they've been doing it. So I'm gonna 2656 01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:47,880 Speaker 1: go with Minnesota. Give them their their flowers this week, as. 2657 01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:51,120 Speaker 5: You kids say, nice, nicely done. Nicely done, Alex. Is 2658 01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:52,120 Speaker 5: that what you kids say? 2659 01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:57,680 Speaker 3: The Boston definitely do. 2660 01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:00,560 Speaker 1: All right. Now we go back to Sunday at one. 2661 01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:03,160 Speaker 3: I'm already out of the lingo. My little sister talks. 2662 01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:06,360 Speaker 5: And like, no, like when you were young, like three 2663 01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:09,920 Speaker 5: years ago, three years the four and eleven Patriots are 2664 01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:14,160 Speaker 5: at the nine and six bills Buffalo by thirteen. 2665 01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,120 Speaker 4: Good lord, wow, all right? 2666 01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:20,600 Speaker 5: This respect, no respect for Bailey, no respect. That unbelievable. 2667 01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:22,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Buffalo. I'm gonna. I'm gonna, but I 2668 01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:25,000 Speaker 4: will give the points to the Patriots. I think that 2669 01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:28,560 Speaker 4: they hang in there around ten points. They lose, I'm 2670 01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:31,360 Speaker 4: gonna say, I don't know. Twenty seven to seventeen. 2671 01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:35,000 Speaker 3: Fred looked like, look at me like I was an alien. 2672 01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:37,480 Speaker 3: When I picked the Patriots to cover last week. I 2673 01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,040 Speaker 3: think I was the only one that got that right. 2674 01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:40,160 Speaker 1: I did look at you that one. 2675 01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:43,720 Speaker 5: You looked at me like you absolutely got it right. 2676 01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,680 Speaker 5: I guess that's another thing from your generation, like when 2677 01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:49,200 Speaker 5: you predict something right, you have to tell everybody. 2678 01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:52,560 Speaker 3: That's the first time I've done a VI I saw. 2679 01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,400 Speaker 5: A couple of those yesterday about Russell will Right. 2680 01:58:56,720 --> 01:59:00,360 Speaker 3: I think the Pats cover. I'm gonna take the Bills 2681 01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:05,800 Speaker 3: to win twenty seven seventeen, So. 2682 01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:09,160 Speaker 6: I also am gonna do the same thing Bills win 2683 01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:12,880 Speaker 6: Pat's cover. I'm gonna do twenty eight seventeen, just to 2684 01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:16,280 Speaker 6: be different between these two. But I think ultimately the 2685 01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:18,480 Speaker 6: Bills have too much offense. Kind of similar game to 2686 01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:21,800 Speaker 6: last year in Week eighteen where Patriots hang with her 2687 01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:24,040 Speaker 6: half and then Buffalo just has too much in the end. 2688 01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:27,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to take the Bills both ways. I 2689 01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:30,320 Speaker 5: think kind of like the Kansas City game, and maybe 2690 01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:34,200 Speaker 5: it's a little bit back and forth early, but the 2691 01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:36,680 Speaker 5: difference is this one's in Buffalo and not in New England. 2692 01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:41,280 Speaker 5: So I'm going to say, like thirty one sixteen, I'll 2693 01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,240 Speaker 5: give Patriots another field goal. I think I said thirty 2694 01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:44,880 Speaker 5: one thirteen on TV. That's nice of you. 2695 01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:53,720 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm riding with the Patriots. They've feep of the Bills. 2696 01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:56,960 Speaker 1: The Bill has gotten the lock, he's kept the locker room. 2697 01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,160 Speaker 5: You have the FEVA, you have a little bit of 2698 01:59:59,200 --> 01:59:59,560 Speaker 5: the FEVA. 2699 02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah's yeah, Patriots both ways. 2700 02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:05,680 Speaker 5: Uh yeah. So you know how I always tell you that, like, 2701 02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:08,400 Speaker 5: you know, winning the picks contest is kind of irrelevant. 2702 02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,440 Speaker 5: That's why, because I think the only one who actually 2703 02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:14,240 Speaker 5: tries to pick the games as opposed to all the 2704 02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:17,680 Speaker 5: different scenarios in my mind where I generate like I 2705 02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:21,640 Speaker 5: hat like Fred doesn't so like I like, he just 2706 02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:23,080 Speaker 5: gives you like five wins a week. 2707 02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:25,560 Speaker 1: I like the way Bill has these guys playing hard. 2708 02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:28,080 Speaker 4: They wanted to, they wanted to keep them around. 2709 02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:32,480 Speaker 1: They're playing for him, yep. And I think nothing would 2710 02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:35,200 Speaker 1: be better for everyone to just ruin things for the 2711 02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:38,880 Speaker 1: for the Bills. It's going to be dubbed the red 2712 02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:39,440 Speaker 1: Ass Game. 2713 02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:41,640 Speaker 4: That's how it's gonna go, because they're going to fire 2714 02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:42,920 Speaker 4: him because the Patriots beat them. 2715 02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:43,160 Speaker 1: This is it. 2716 02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:45,120 Speaker 4: The Patriots are going to break the Bills again. You 2717 02:00:45,200 --> 02:00:45,840 Speaker 4: heard it here first. 2718 02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:47,920 Speaker 5: It's gonna be the it broke the Broncos. You didn't 2719 02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:49,480 Speaker 5: read that one yesterday, of course I did. 2720 02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:51,480 Speaker 6: We're not gonna We're not going to pick the college 2721 02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:52,240 Speaker 6: football playoffs. 2722 02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:55,400 Speaker 1: Sure, go ahead. I don't even know what the matchup. 2723 02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:57,120 Speaker 5: I don't know what the spreads are. 2724 02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:02,360 Speaker 6: But we have Michigan in Alabama, Alabama go Alabama or 2725 02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:04,760 Speaker 6: Washington and Texas is the other game Texas. 2726 02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:08,040 Speaker 5: So I'm not telling you that I'm not rooting for 2727 02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:12,280 Speaker 5: for Alabama. I hate Alabama, Alabama. 2728 02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:14,200 Speaker 3: Texas, Alabama Texas. 2729 02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,880 Speaker 5: I think Alabama Texas will be the two winners. I'll 2730 02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:18,880 Speaker 5: be rooting for Michigan in Washington. 2731 02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:21,160 Speaker 1: Red Alabama Texas. 2732 02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:24,480 Speaker 6: I'm taking Washington, Alabama, Washington. Michael Pennick's got that dog 2733 02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:24,840 Speaker 6: in him. 2734 02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:30,000 Speaker 1: But you know, like everyone's picking Alabama, but Michigan has 2735 02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:32,160 Speaker 1: a better, think, good chance to win this game. They're 2736 02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:33,839 Speaker 1: probably the better team going. 2737 02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:36,760 Speaker 5: In, well they think, but yeah, but their offense is 2738 02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:39,360 Speaker 5: really I think Alabama is better their offense. 2739 02:01:39,480 --> 02:01:43,200 Speaker 6: Michigan's offenses is their old school ground and pound type 2740 02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:45,960 Speaker 6: of offense. And right up, Nick Savans, Yeah, I think 2741 02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:47,760 Speaker 6: Alabama can throw the ball on them a little bit. 2742 02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:50,000 Speaker 1: Alabama's defense ain't all that this year. 2743 02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:52,320 Speaker 5: No, but when you just have to stop the run, 2744 02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,000 Speaker 5: you don't have to be all that. You don't like 2745 02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:58,360 Speaker 5: JJ definitely not JJ McCarthy. He had games where he 2746 02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:01,080 Speaker 5: threw the ball like Mac Jones, Like he had like 2747 02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:03,560 Speaker 5: a six for eight game. I but I do want 2748 02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:08,120 Speaker 5: Alabama away, But no, I don't like JJ mccotney. 2749 02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:10,680 Speaker 6: I'm surprised all you took Texas a little bit I've 2750 02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:12,160 Speaker 6: been to Austin, and I love Austin. 2751 02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:15,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think I think Washington doesn't 2752 02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:16,480 Speaker 1: get enough credit this year. 2753 02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:17,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Washington's a good team. 2754 02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:20,480 Speaker 5: But Washington's good. But I feel like every game could 2755 02:02:20,480 --> 02:02:23,160 Speaker 5: have gone either way. I don't know, Maybe I'm disrespecting them. 2756 02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:25,280 Speaker 6: That game is going to be forty five forty two. 2757 02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:26,240 Speaker 6: It's gonna be a lot of fun. 2758 02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:29,000 Speaker 5: Okay, is that the first one? Second one? Unfortunately? 2759 02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, late night that's what. Then where we 2760 02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:32,200 Speaker 4: brought a full circle, that's what. 2761 02:02:32,760 --> 02:02:33,360 Speaker 5: I don't know why. 2762 02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:36,400 Speaker 1: It's the late the better match up. All right, that's 2763 02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:41,920 Speaker 1: it for this edition. Dayre's Unfiltered ten for the pre 2764 02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:44,400 Speaker 1: game show on Sunday, than the game, then the post 2765 02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:45,920 Speaker 1: game show. 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