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Speaker 1: you're in the Houston area where they're shelters all around,

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Speaker 1: but they're also shelters in Austin and San Antonio and Dallas.

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Speaker 1: That they also kind of the list item that that

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Speaker 1: that they need and that various shelter by shelter in

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Speaker 1: terms of the donations that are needed, and of course

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00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: financial contributions to help purchase what's needed. All of those

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00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: are ways to help. As an immediate stat Jesse that

437
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: that pretty much that that covers a pretty good swath

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Speaker 1: of what's possible for those of us who are in

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Speaker 1: other parts of the country, right, I mean, anything you

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Speaker 1: want to add to that or any other specifics. No,

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00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: For people around the country, that really checks off most

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Speaker 1: of the boxes. You have more options if you're local

443
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: and you can physically do things like I know, they

444
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: need blood, they need more people to give blood. Like

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00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: I said, they need volunteers yesterday. What was happening is

446
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: basically our law enforcement, Our first responders are starving. These

447
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: are guys who work in shifts on a PowerBar and

448
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: some of their homes have been wiped out. So there

449
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: was a big need for people to deliver hot meals

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00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: the police stations and share stations. But they're meeting those

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00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: needs as they come along. For people out of town, yes,

452
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: some supplies are needed, but monetary donations are king right

453
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: now because we are talking untold amounts of money that

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Speaker 1: that are going to be needed to recover this play. Jesse,

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Speaker 1: have you seen some of those guys from the from

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Speaker 1: the Cajun Navy just out of curiosity, I'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: a fan. Oh you're dead gone right, I have. They

458
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: are the best. They are the salt of the earth guys.

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00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: You can't go to the gas station and see some

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00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: of the gas station left their pumps on even though

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00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: they locked up inside. And those Caje Navy guys are

462
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: at every single gas station filling up their bass boats,

463
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: filling up jet skis they brought over. All of them

464
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: have lsu hats on and they're just here to help.

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Speaker 1: That's all they care about. They're here to help and

466
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: as soon as there's another problem, somewhere else. They'll go back.

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Speaker 1: They are They are awesome people. Jesse, man, I really

468
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: appreciate you giving us your view of what's going on

469
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: in the ground there in Houston. Uh. Tell you to

470
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: continue to stay safe, but I know you're probably gonna

471
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: be out there knee deep dragging, you know, dragging whatever

472
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: you have to in terms of supplies to people and

473
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: everything else that that can be done out there. But

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Speaker 1: Jesse is a former marine. Where can people go to

475
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: read the resources that you have posted for everyone? It's

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Speaker 1: ed on my Twitter page. It's the top sweet, it's

477
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Speaker 1: the pen. Tweet at Jesse Kelly PC. At Jesse Kelly PC.

478
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: Click on the article. I have links right in there.

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00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: You can click on it and click on the links

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00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: and get whatever you want. It's easy and fast. Please

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00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: give if you can. Jesse, thank you for your service,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your call. Great to talk to your

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Speaker 1: brother and we'll be in touch all right. Appreciate you, brother. Thanks,

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00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: thank you, Buck Sexton back with you in the hut.

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Speaker 1: We got Richard Uh in West Virginia on w w V.

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Speaker 1: A Hey, Richard, short, thanks today. Interest me about this

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00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: situation down there, man, Oh, I can relate to is.

488
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: One time I had to move out of a river

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Speaker 1: flood and I put five feet of water inside the

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Speaker 1: place I worked and it was about a mile long.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just wondering like that, if this situation didn't

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Speaker 1: cover the entire area where they can But you just

493
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: wanted because I heard you saying I've heard it before

494
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Speaker 1: about the highways being like rivers. Have you looked if

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Speaker 1: you if you're on social media, Richard, you can see

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Speaker 1: for yourself. The photos are literally unbelievable, and that they

497
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: look like they are doctored or photoshop. You know, it

498
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: looks like a fake photo, but they're real. Well, I

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Speaker 1: believe you. But what I was thinking, when I know

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Speaker 1: you believe me, I'm just saying, go ahead. If the

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00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: people were under roof, they couldn't get out, how were

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Speaker 1: the first responders getting to them to rescue them? These

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Speaker 1: are ones from the well have these big humvees or

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Speaker 1: they're driving tanks or something that they could go through

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00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: this water that were is uh, who knows how deep

506
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Speaker 1: it was on their four or five six feet deep?

507
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Speaker 1: Is that what they had to get to them? Because

508
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: and he certainly couldn't use cars to get through there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they're using all kinds of vehicles. I've seen

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Speaker 1: everything from fishing boats to kayaks to uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: flat bottom boats. Uh, I don't even know. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a watercraft guy, so I jet skis. I've seen all

513
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Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. Basically, if if it floats and it

514
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Speaker 1: can give someone a lift out of a flooded home,

515
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: they're they're using it, They're deploying it. So that's that

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Speaker 1: That means that there's a lot of improvisation going on

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Speaker 1: and a lot of that they had, Like the people

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Speaker 1: can get out of their homes, you couldn't navigate the highway.

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Speaker 1: How we're saying like these centers that they were going to,

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00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: people were staying in these centers. Um, would they be

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Speaker 1: up on a hill someplace? I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that you're going to. Well, well, only, as I said,

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Speaker 1: only a third of Houston, for example, right now, is

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Speaker 1: under a large amount of water. So there are parts

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Speaker 1: of Houston that have either drained or to some degree

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Speaker 1: or or just didn't didn't have the same level of collection,

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Speaker 1: you know, a level of water in them. And I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming that some of the major, uh, some of the

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Speaker 1: major shelters that they're setting up places like you know,

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Speaker 1: sports arenas, uh, that they are are likely at at

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Speaker 1: an elevation where even four or five ft of water

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Speaker 1: is not necessarily it's not going to get in, you

533
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Whereas for you know, a person's

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Speaker 1: house that's ground level four or five feet of water,

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Speaker 1: especially if it's a one level house, you don't have

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have a house anymore for all

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Speaker 1: intensive purpose, the whole thing flooded. Well, it must be

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Speaker 1: because I heard war were sentiment something like two or

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00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: thousand uh kayaks down there. So maybe that's what the

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Speaker 1: first responders are doing too, to take these people to

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Speaker 1: this show. Yeah, no, look, I think that's right. I

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00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: think they've been also trying to gather people, Richard into

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00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: different areas and Richard, thanks for calling him, and she'll

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00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: tie from West Virginia. Uh. They've been gathering people in

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00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: different collection points and then moving them. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: step one. And like I'm just surmising this from what

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Speaker 1: I've been reading and watching and following as closely as

548
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: i can and talking to people like Jesse down in Houston. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Step one is get people out of imminent danger, you know,

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00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 1: make sure no one drowns. Right, So that's that is

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00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: the overwhelming overriding priority here for Houston. And then uh,

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00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: step two is well, once once you're out of imminent danger,

553
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, get them to a place where they can

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00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: get uh, shelter food, get them into a place where

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00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: they are able to take care of their basic needs. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And as part of that process, I assume, based on

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Speaker 1: what I've read about some of the busses that have

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00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: been collecting people gathering people together, that there are some

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Speaker 1: point points where if you know, they people get they

560
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: they know from the first responders are We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a bus pick up you know, fifty people here, a

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00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: hundred people there, and take them to one of the

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00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: established shelters. I assume that's what's going on. So there

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00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: are multiple tiers or or levels in this process until

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Speaker 1: finally some individuals are you know, given a cot and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, a safe place to h to eat and

567
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: sleep and and gather themselves. It's just traumatizing, you know,

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00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean, on top of all this the trauma of

569
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Speaker 1: being under real threat and being incapable of doing anything

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00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: to to prevent this from happening. Right, This is a

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Speaker 1: natural disaster. This is this is this is nobody's fault,

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00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: and you know, it affects everybody in the path of

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Speaker 1: the storm. Right there's nothing that anyone could do here

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Speaker 1: other than just adapt to the situation to the best

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Speaker 1: of each individual's ability. But for all these folks out

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Speaker 1: there out down there in Houston who are trying to

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00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: make sure or that they are of course they are safe,

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00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: that their families are safe, the stress of that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't I can't imagine what that's like, um, being

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00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: in charge of uh, your your spouse and and your

581
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: kids and or you know, your your your grandparents or

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00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: you know whomever, right UM, trying to keep them from

583
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: being in harm's way through this whole process, and knowing

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Speaker 1: that for many people, you know, they're they've they've lost

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Speaker 1: their home. They have to get passed right away. That

586
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: financial that financial and psychological loss of all your things.

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00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: You know, for a lot of a lot of people,

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00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: their things are gone. Sure they'll be able to sift

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00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: through maybe afterwards when one thing, when the waters recede,

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00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: there may be yeah, some ability to recover items that

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Speaker 1: But from from what I understand, floodwater is first of all,

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00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: it's it's incredibly dirty. Um, and that's just because of

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00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: all the stuff that it picks up, and it overrides

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Speaker 1: sewer systems, and I'm floodwater is you don't want to

595
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: be in it, you want me near it? And on.

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00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Once a home is flooded and and it stays for days,

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00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: this might even this flood, floodwaters might stay for weeks

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00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: in some places here, it's never it's it's really hard.

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00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: It's never the same. I remember the Sandy. The Sandy

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00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: cleanup efforts went on for for it seemed like forever

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Speaker 1: in some places. Because floods are so damaging. UM. The

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00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: long term effects on many of these homes, and many

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00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: of these homes are are effectively gone. They won't be

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Speaker 1: inhabitable for a very very long time. And I assume

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00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: some of them have probably even been swept away in

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Speaker 1: this depending on the size of the home and the

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00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: structures stability. So this is a lot coming together. It

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00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: wants a lot for people to handle. And I think

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00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: these inspirational stories we're seeing about first responders and about

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00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: individuals in these neighborhoods all across the Houston metroplex and

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00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: and be on now into Port Arthur Beaumont that are

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00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: just doing everything they can to help their neighbors. That's

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00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: you know, those stories are important because that's what keeps

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Speaker 1: everyone going, because even those who have been pulled out

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00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: of these floodwaters are likely having to grapple with the

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00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: equivalent of their life savings being gone. You know for

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Speaker 1: a lot of for a lot of people, there their home,

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00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: that's where all their money is, you know, their home,

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Speaker 1: their possessions, that's what they've been working countless hours over

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00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: many years four and that may be gone, and they

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Speaker 1: may not have any insurance, and they may be starting

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Speaker 1: completely a new um and in a way where they

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00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: are carrying along some real psychological wounds from this whole process.

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00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: So there there's a lot a lot happening right now. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And I know that it's important to try and maintain

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00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: as much as possible and in a perception or a

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00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: mindset and that's better word, mindset of positivity and taking action.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why the story is about the

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Speaker 1: first responders, and that's important. It's important for people Houston

630
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: to see, it's important the whole country to see this

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00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: is going to be a long process. And uh, it's

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00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things that that happens, and

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00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: there's no good there's no good reason for any of this.

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00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: There's no good answer for any of this. All we

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00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: can do is band together and try to handle it

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00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: as best we can as Americans and as people. UH.

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00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: Now we've spent this hour on on the reality, on

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00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: the on the serious issue of this, serious issues of

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00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: this hurricane, this storm system. I do want to talk

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00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: to you a little bit about some of the political

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00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: shenanigan surrounding this from the left, because it's just appalling.

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00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: Now he's back with you now because when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: team Buck. Thank you so much for hanging out the

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Speaker 1: freedom Hutbuck sex in here with all of you. Eight

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Speaker 1: four four eight two five. UM Jamie in Florida, listening

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Speaker 1: in on the I heart app Hey, Jamie, I bug

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Speaker 1: I'm good, Thanks so much for calling. UH. I am

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Speaker 1: a survivor of the for Florida hurricanes. We lost our

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Speaker 1: home in the last one. UH. We spent a year

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Speaker 1: living in a pop up camp for a family of

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Speaker 1: four with two dogs. We have to live in a

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Speaker 1: pop up camper. UH. And the thing that people don't

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Speaker 1: realize is yes, you have the initial shock and you

655
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: have the initial wipeout. But this happened. The hurricane came

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Speaker 1: through the day before my book Taye, so I remember

657
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: it September. The hurricane came through. When we came home,

658
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Speaker 1: we had nothing, and over half of our house was gone.

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Speaker 1: And it took us until December to get all the

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00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: paperwork found, gathered up, tracked down, fact then axed out

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00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: to be able to get SEMA two agree to help us,

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00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: and then we started building. After the post of the year,

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Speaker 1: we started and we had to rebuild, and everybody in

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Speaker 1: Florida was rebuildings, so you know, supplies were few and

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Speaker 1: far between. Thank god. I was a truck driver and

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00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: my husband was disabled at home. He could fetch and

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Speaker 1: get and find and and I'd see a flat bed

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Speaker 1: going down the road, going where are you taking, you know,

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Speaker 1: the roofing shingles? And I would say, okay, thank you driver,

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Speaker 1: And I said, my husband, you got a flat bed

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Speaker 1: less than thirty miles out, Get there and meet that

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Speaker 1: truck and get shingles so that we can do our roofs.

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Speaker 1: And Florida had to bounce back, but it took a

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Speaker 1: year just to get back in our home. Jamie, you

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Speaker 1: said that you said that you got some at some

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Speaker 1: point you were able to contact female. I'm just wondering

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Speaker 1: what what what was that response from them, like, what

678
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Speaker 1: what did they do to help if anything? Well, the

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Speaker 1: first thing Kima did was provided us with a generator

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Speaker 1: because we were in a camper and they paid for

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Speaker 1: us a generator. But to prove that, we had to

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Speaker 1: go through the rigging role of of proving because we've

683
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Speaker 1: just been canceled on our insurance due to a robbery.

684
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: We had to get proof from our old insurance company

685
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Speaker 1: that they had just dropped us during a hurricane season

686
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Speaker 1: and we weren't allowed to get a new insurance. We

687
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Speaker 1: had to get the paperwork to prove that fact, and

688
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: as then proofs that our home was paid for from

689
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Speaker 1: our mortgage company. Because we no longer had the title

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Speaker 1: for our homes. We uh. We had to go through

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Speaker 1: all these steps to prove that we were needed the FEMA.

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Speaker 1: Then we had to get a clear title to our

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Speaker 1: land and give up a deed where my land had

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Speaker 1: never had a deed on it because my family were

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Speaker 1: some of the original settlers of Polk County, so there's

696
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Speaker 1: never been a deed on our property. So so you

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Speaker 1: you had to jump through a lot, a lot of

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00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: hoops after suffering tremendous laws here that took all our time.

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Speaker 1: And thank god, you know, my husband was often able

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Speaker 1: to do this and make countless phone calls and goes

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00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: who are bank and have paid for works facts, and

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00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: we weren't then and there that every year when I

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Speaker 1: get my insurance uh thing for the year from my

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Speaker 1: insurance company, all what's covered and what's not, all my

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00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: important papers, I spend the family outside of the state

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Speaker 1: and they hold them for a year. So if we're

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Speaker 1: ever hit again, and if we ever lose everything, someone

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Speaker 1: outside of the state of Florida has paperwork and they

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Speaker 1: can send it back. Jamie, if I can just ask

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Speaker 1: you before we let you go, um, because you've been

711
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Speaker 1: through this to those in Houston right now who have

712
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Speaker 1: lost their homes and there are there are going to

713
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: be many, many thousands, likely tens of thousands of them.

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Speaker 1: That first twenty four hours, what's going through your head? Well, first,

715
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks, you're numb. You're numb, and

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Speaker 1: you're just trying to go through the basic things my

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00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: kids didn't have uniforms to wear to school. I mean

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Speaker 1: I literally was, you know, my kids didn't have clothes

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Speaker 1: tore to school, but they were still trying to go

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Speaker 1: to school. And and it hit me on Christmas Eves.

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Speaker 1: Because I had always baked for Christmas. It hit me

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Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve that I couldn't make cookies for my kids.

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Speaker 1: And I had a nervous breakdown. And I called my

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Speaker 1: mother and tears in Georgia, and she kept telling me.

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Speaker 1: She goes, Okay, well, what's wrong? And I tell her

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Speaker 1: I couldn't cook cookies. I can't make my keeeths Christmas?

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Speaker 1: And she goes, the kids okay, I'll say yeah, And

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Speaker 1: it took her asking me over and over again. Are

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00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: are yours? Your husband and your kids still okay? Then

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Speaker 1: life goes on. And that is what I learned right then,

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00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: and there is the people are what's important. The things

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Speaker 1: can be we built, we built are out a powerful

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Speaker 1: lesson and and and very important words. Jamie, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for sharing your story from Florida. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: it and shields how to you and your loved ones.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Uh Jimmy in Mississippi. Good to have you on, sir,

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Speaker 1: what's up? I was listening to your talk to Richard

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00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: from West virgin and he was trying to figure out

739
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Speaker 1: how they got to cue to everybody and how they

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Speaker 1: got him back and all that. And I was in

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Speaker 1: the Baton Rouge flo uh whenever it happened about a

742
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: year ago, whenever it was. And so you were in

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Speaker 1: Baton Rouge during severe flooding. I'm a yeah, I'm a

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Speaker 1: truck driver and just as the flood started, had big

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Speaker 1: floot not long ago, um on the highway and the record,

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Speaker 1: you know, kicking me up, and uh, I took my

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Speaker 1: truck to a shop and dropped me off to the motel.

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Speaker 1: And when I woke up next morning, it was like

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Speaker 1: there was gonna be a while before my truck was

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Speaker 1: gonna be fixed because everything was underwater, you know. But

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Speaker 1: sitting there at the motel, I talked to one lady.

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00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: She had her teenage granddaughter with her and showed up

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Speaker 1: with a boat at her house. People have Uh, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: can you I wanted you to finish your story, but

755
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: where I'm having a really hard time hearing you, and

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00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: the the audio quality is rough. If you can call

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Speaker 1: back him and you get a more secure connection. I

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00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: want you to finish what you're saying, but for right now,

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00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: I can't hear you, and that means I gotta assume

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00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: that most folks listening can't either. But I appreciate you

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00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: calling from Mississippi, and please get us with a better connection.

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00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: I know this is the problem with cell phones, is

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Speaker 1: that you know their cell phones um as a as

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00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: a wise man once said, the problem with cell phones

765
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Speaker 1: is that there are cell phones. Um I said, I

766
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: would talk to you about the political side of all this,

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00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: which I will do, and then I've got to talk

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00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: Trump and taxes and the agenda too. I don't want

769
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 1: to uh get uh two into what's going on here

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00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: on the political side of all the you know, the

771
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: media journalism shenanigans that are happening right now, all the

772
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: malarkey from journalists that are trying to position themselves to

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00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: capitalized for their own side on what's happened here with

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00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: with Harvey and this this terrible storm system that has

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Speaker 1: been so devastating the southeastern Texas. Do you think he's

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00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: proud of having it to be like the biggest I

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00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: genuinely don't know. With him. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: bragging about the scale of it. So for him, you know,

779
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: the accomplishment he sees in Harvey is that it's the

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Speaker 1: biggest during the era of Donald Trump writes, and so

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00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: there's something really disturbing just about the way that he

782
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: talks about I don't think that he understands the human

783
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: scale of misery. I don't think that he can connect

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Speaker 1: with the sort of compassion that you normally have when

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00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: you see a disaster like this. There you have MSNBC

786
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: host Joy Reid talking to uh, incredibly unfunny comedian Trevor

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00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: Noah from Comedy Central Um about Trump take just taking

788
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: cheap shots at at President Trump over Harvey, because he

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00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: got on this right away. The emergency declaration went through

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00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: right away. At the federal level, They've been on this

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00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: from the beginning. The left was so hoping to create

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Speaker 1: some story about Trump not being on this, not being involved,

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00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: and sure enough, Trump has been all over it from

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Speaker 1: the beginning. Sure Enough, Trump has so far from what

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Speaker 1: we can see, don't all that he could do, and

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Speaker 1: he's done it right at the federal level. Look, this

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00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: is an imperfect situation in terms of the response. It

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00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: always will be. You're dealing with a catastrophe, a natural disaster,

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Speaker 1: and people will suffer. Terrible things are happening. But the

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Speaker 1: response has been robust. It has been uh reasonably adept,

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00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: and they were hoping that it wouldn't be, which tells

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00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: you a lot about the left right. It tells you

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00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: a lot about what they really think and what their

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00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: what their main motivations are when they talk about all this.

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Speaker 1: And to say that Trump can't understand the human scale

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Speaker 1: of missery, let me just say no, nobody who hasn't

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00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: themselves experienced this really understands the human scale of misery.

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00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: This is like when I tell people it's it's kind

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00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: of like there there are some of us who have

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00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: gone to bed at night, woken up in the morning

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Speaker 1: and done a job where we could get killed and

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00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: that's just part of the job. And there are people

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00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: who haven't done that, and those who have done it

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Speaker 1: have a different have just a different perspective on certain things.

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Speaker 1: You know, when when you show up when you're told,

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00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: as as I was told once, you may not come

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00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: back from this. You might die, just so you know.

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Speaker 1: And that was a professional level conversation that I had

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00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: to have with somebody that they were telling me that

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00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: that's different then people who have never been in that situation, right,

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00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: that's different than people who have never really fit and mean, look,

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Speaker 1: you can you can get hit by a car walking

823
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: out at your front door to get some milk. But

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the perils of the job, the perils

825
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: of your work. If you've never been in that position,

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Speaker 1: you can't really understand it. If you've never been through

827
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Speaker 1: a natural disaster, a catastrophe like this, of this level,

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Speaker 1: with this much misery, you don't really know. You try,

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Speaker 1: and I'm trying to put myself to the degree I

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Speaker 1: can in the mindset. But I've I've never been through

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Speaker 1: anything like this. I've never lost my home. I've never

832
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Speaker 1: been worried about drowning in the midst of a rising

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Speaker 1: Floodwater's never been worried about where my you know, are

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Speaker 1: my siblings safe? Are they okay? I mean now I

835
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: have had the process of wondering about whether a family

836
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Speaker 1: member was killed in a terrorist attack here in New

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Speaker 1: York City, But that's a discussion for another time. That's

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Speaker 1: not a natural disaster. That was a a man inflicted catastrophe.

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Speaker 1: With nine eleven but again I'm I'm digressing. Um, so

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Speaker 1: it's just a cheap shot. They're taking the print just

841
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: a just a cheap shot. And there are lots of them,

842
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: all the stuff about Milannia's footwear. Oh she's wearing high heels.

843
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: Oh she changed in his sneakers. Really really, that's what

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Speaker 1: we're going to focus on the dress code of the

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Speaker 1: First Lady. But it shows the the fixation to find

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00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: some point of criticism, and they don't understand, the media

847
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Speaker 1: that that undermines the rest of the argument. You know,

848
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: they turn around, they look at people that support Trump,

849
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: they say, why, why don't you believe this when and

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00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: maybe they have maybe they have a point. Maybe Trump

851
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: said something that was a little a little too much,

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00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: wenttle too far, was a little boorish, you know, shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have done it. But Trump supporters like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we'll give him a pass on it. We're okay with it.

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Speaker 1: Media never seems to understand that we remember, we remember

856
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: that they were fixated on First Lady Melanie at Trump's

857
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: shoes in the midst of a massive natural disaster, people

858
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: are drowning and they have to, oh, look at her shoes,

859
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: and her shoes and there's who cares, who cares? And

860
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: there's something else that I'm hoping we remember or that

861
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: you remember um when they pretend like there's no way

862
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: we can know what they really think of us. I

863
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: want you to if you haven't seen this, and it's

864
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: not that easy necessarily to find, because they tried to

865
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: erase that. They tried to delete it, but the Internet

866
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: is forever. Politico, which is a left wing political magazine

867
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: and news site, put out a cartoon and it's up

868
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: on buck sex and dot com. I want to share

869
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: the cartoon with you because it it really does give

870
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: you a window into a mindset. Here we are in

871
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: the middle of a natural disaster of as the President said,

872
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: epic proportions photos that make it look like a biblical

873
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: disaster is in process, right. I mean, this is like

874
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: Old Testament stuff. This is scary. And you would think

875
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: that people who make a living sharing information and writing narratives,

876
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: telling stories would know that some some degree of basic sensitivity,

877
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: some degree of shared humanity is is really required right

878
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: now out. But this cartoon came out from Politico, and

879
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: I know I'm I'm on radio, and I can only

880
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: describe it to you. It is at bucks x and

881
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: dot com, though we do have it up so you

882
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: can see it because I screen captured it. Because I knew,

883
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: by the way, as soon as they shared this cartoon

884
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: on their official Twitter account, I knew they were gonna

885
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: be uh they're they're in for it now and not

886
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: because they made some mistake. I don't like playing the

887
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: gotcha when somebody just you know, just crosses the line,

888
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: or somebody is maybe he thinks there joke is gonna

889
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: be interpreted one way and is interpreted another way. I

890
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: think you give leeway to humor. I do. I'm a

891
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: strong believer in that. I also I'm a strong believer

892
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: in second chances for people in the communications business who

893
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: make a mistake. We'll give that in mind, you know,

894
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: because I'm I practice what I preach on that one.

895
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: I think most people deserve a second chance, especially if

896
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: they made a good faith there or there's a difference, right,

897
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: a good faith there is not getting you know, caught

898
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: on tape, like saying a whole bunch of racial slurs.

899
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: That's a you're not working anymore, but a you know,

900
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: you you make a joke that you think it's funny.

901
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: It goes a little too far. I think you get

902
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: a second chance. I don't. I don't think people should

903
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: lose their livelihoods over mistakes that any one of us could,

904
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: on one day or another make. This cartoon is not

905
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: one of those. This is not a mistake that a

906
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: person could make. This is a a window and opening

907
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: into the mindset of so many in the media. So

908
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: we're in the midst of all this flooding in Houston,

909
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: and political magazine puts out this cartoon and it's uh,

910
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: it says, check out the latest from and then it

911
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: names the cartoonist. And you have a rescue helicopter over floodwaters.

912
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: You have a rescuer who is putting a life jacket

913
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 1: on a girl who's sitting on top of a house.

914
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: And you have a guy in a stetson hat with

915
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: a Confederate flag T shirt on and cowboy boots saying

916
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: and this is the bubble, the cartoon bubble next to him,

917
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: angels sent by God about the rescuers, and and they

918
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: mean this in a sneering way. Of course, he's also

919
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: got a don't tread on me flag. So it's like

920
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: key Party Confederate Texan being saved by you know US

921
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: federal rescuers of some kind, and then you've got one

922
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: of those rescuers saying this is in the bubble or

923
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: actually coast guard sent by the government. And on top

924
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: of the house there's a sign the house of the

925
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: people that remember have been flooded and are being and

926
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: are being saved from possible death. Here there's a Texas

927
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: state flag and succeed written on it. Even if if

928
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: you want to know what the people who write for Politico,

929
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: and if you want to know what the people who

930
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 1: are in charge of constructing the narrative that is news,

931
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: don't ever get suckered into thinking that news is is

932
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: an a objective thing. News is what people make it.

933
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: There's any number is you know, you can leave any

934
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: stories you want out. You can make most stories whatever

935
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: you want them to be news as a narrative. And

936
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: this tells us what the narrative from the left really

937
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: is when it comes to people who are suffering them

938
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 1: indst of this flood, while people are losing their homes,

939
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: while people are drowning, while Texans, Houstonians and Louis Annan's

940
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: are drowning and going through the terrors of losing everything,

941
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: that they own. Politico wants to make jokes about Tea

942
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: Party Texas racist secessionists, because that's what they think. That's

943
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: what they think of Texans. You see, Texas, Texas is

944
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: a red state. Even though there's a lot of people

945
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: in Texas, including a lot of people in Houston who

946
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: are Democrats, right, but they think of Texas as a

947
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: red state. Texas is is a hic state. It is

948
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: fly over country. If you live in d C, New York,

949
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: if you live in a Sela Corridor, you live in

950
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, you take and your journalists you take this

951
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: sneering view of Texans. And that's not a surprise. But

952
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: maybe what surprises some of us is they can't even

953
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: put that sneering view on hold. While Houston's submerged and

954
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: people are drowning. They can't even they can't even take

955
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: a break from looking down, looking down from on a

956
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: bove at us during Hurricane Harvey and everything that we're

957
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: seeing here. Don't ever forget this. This is a major

958
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: left wing news site, Politico. He's holding the line for America.

959
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton his back seen. Thanks for staying with me

960
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: through the break, or thank you for joining if you're

961
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: just tuning in now eight buck. We have every line lit,

962
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: but as we take call, spots will open up. I

963
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: know a lot of people have thoughts that want to

964
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: share on the day's events. We'll get into some of

965
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: the Trump tax talk today, but I also want to

966
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: talk to you about Antifa. I wrote a piece for

967
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: The Hill dot com on Antifa, which you can read

968
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: at the Hill dot com, um, and I want to

969
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: talk to you about that. So I have not enough

970
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: show today for everything that I want to discuss with you.

971
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: That's no surprise that tends to not enough time in

972
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: the show. That tends to happen. But on bucks x

973
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: and dot com right now, we do have a a

974
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: screen grab the original cartoon the Political So look look

975
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: at it for yourself. I mean, I describe it to

976
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: you in as much detail as I can, But look

977
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: at that cartoon. Given that it was put out today

978
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: by Politico's official account, which means that multiple people saw this.

979
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: This wasn't like one person who works for Politico who

980
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: just you know, tweeted something out and then was like whoops,

981
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: because you know that's people can make mistakes. This was

982
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: a cartoon. This person really thought this out. It wasn't

983
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: an errand sentence. You've got to see this, I'm telling you.

984
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: Go to bux x and dot com. I have it

985
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: up there right now, and they tweeted they deleted it,

986
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: which how often does a major news site immediately deleted

987
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: tweet is rare because this is a this is a

988
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: dumpster fire of awful. This cartoon, you know, it's it

989
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: is wow. You have to see it to to really

990
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: understand it. And like I said, it's up on buckx

991
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: x and dot com. Uh, let's take We've got a

992
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: lot of calls here. Let's take Chuck in Alabama on

993
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: w b V. Hey Chuck, Hey, Buck, how are you good? Good?

994
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in. You are a civil engineer, that's correct.

995
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm a civil engineer and a biologist. Wow. Alright, so

996
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: talk to me about what the what the what's going

997
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: on here from a civil engineering perspective with everything in

998
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: Houston and all the flooding, well, you know, it's it's unbelievable,

999
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: and especially when you think that, excuse me, the city

1000
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: that I'm calling you from, Mobile, Alabama is actually the

1001
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: rainiest city in the United States. A lot of people

1002
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: and you mentioned Seattle earlier, A lot of people say,

1003
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: you see Attles, Rainia city in the United States, and

1004
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: it is in terms of rain days, they have some

1005
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: odd rain days, but they're amasily thirty four thirty five

1006
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: inches a year. Mobile Alabama, Pensacola, Florida, New Orleans, Louisiana

1007
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: are in the top three, and we get between the

1008
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: low sixties and the low seventies inches per year rainfall.

1009
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: So these people in Houston got within spitting distance of

1010
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: what we get in a year in two days. It's

1011
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: just it's unbelievable. And in terms of the infrastructure in

1012
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: place in Houston, I had read a little bit about

1013
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: how the roads they kind of have designed some areas,

1014
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: and this is just from my research that I was doing,

1015
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: so I don't know that's true. I'm hoping you can

1016
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: shed some light on this, but they've been they've set

1017
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: up the roads to be a once the rivers of

1018
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: the by use, which is what they could see Houston

1019
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: is the city of Bayous. Once they overflow, the roads

1020
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: become drainage points. And they've actually set up drainage alongside

1021
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: many of the roadways. Well, that that's correct. You want

1022
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: to you want to utilize that sort of construction technique

1023
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: and and and kind of get two for one, get

1024
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: get drainage and get uh, get some sort of runoff

1025
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: next to the roadway. It's it just makes economic sense.

1026
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: But you know, there's just there's no way to design

1027
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: for something like this. I mean, it's it's so over

1028
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: the top, as you said earlier in the in the show,

1029
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: so biblical, and it's in this proportion that it's uh,

1030
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: it's just unreal that that that much water could fall

1031
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: and that limited area and that's sort of a period

1032
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: of time again a year's worth for us. It's it's

1033
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: it's astonishing, and he does put into perspective. I think

1034
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: just what a challenge this is for Southeastern Texas, for Houston,

1035
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: for cities like Beaumont, Port Arthur, and I know it's

1036
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: it's hit up in Louisiana too. Chuck, thank you very

1037
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: much for calling in on w b b V. Appreciate it.

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: We also have Ken in Mississippi on b on w

1039
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: b V. Hey, Ken, how you doing here? Back? Thank

1040
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: you for calling. What's on your mind? Well, that was

1041
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: common inspired to call because listen to the lady from Florida,

1042
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: and these people have a long road ahead up and

1043
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: we're talking about years and years. Uh, you know, you

1044
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: don't recover from something like this, you know in one year,

1045
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: two year. Yeah, you might can stabilize things in that

1046
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: period of time, but as far as really recovery of

1047
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: the city of Houston and say like that rock Rock

1048
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: Pole they got hit with the storm and the and

1049
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: the waters. You know, it's gonna take it could take

1050
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: twenty five years. You know. I went through Katrina and Camille,

1051
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, Camille, we never really fully recovered.

1052
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: It was an economic decision that kind of change things

1053
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: that brought about recovery after twenty five years. I went

1054
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: through Katrina on the Mississippi Gulf coast and a lot

1055
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: of people don't know, but Mississippi was the one that

1056
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: was really hit with Katrina, you know. And uh, I

1057
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: work in government, and in government, you know, I had

1058
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: to deal with it twenty four hours a day, you know,

1059
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: and that was that was very It put me into depression,

1060
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, because the empathy for not only you know,

1061
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean for other people and seeing their situation and everything.

1062
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: And plus you know, we you know, we lost our history,

1063
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, and so you kind of look at it

1064
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: and you come home every day and you say, gosh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't recognize anything. All the landmarks are gone.

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01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: You know, you don't even know what's treach on. And

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01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: you grew up in this in this place, and this

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01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: looks so totally different, and so everything that you tied

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01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: yourself to as far as your history, it was gone,

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01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: and so you know, it enters your mind. I mean,

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01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: why am I here? You know? I mean, what's holding here?

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01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: What's you know? Why? You know? But you go through

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01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: a stage, just like when you lose somebody close to

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01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: you to death, and maybe it's the first time you

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01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: experienced death real close to you. You have a process,

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01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: a psychological process you go to it's similar to that,

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01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: and you actually go through a period two or three

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01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: week period there or your brain is not functioning properly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just can't think. And I don't know

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01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: what they would call that phase. But I saw every

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: to go through that period. Now he went through it

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01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: at different times, depending upon how busy they were. But

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01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: it's it's a process. And I have so much empathy

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01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: for those people in Texas right now. I hear you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Ken for calling in and sharing

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Speaker 1: your your experience on this and your thoughts and insights.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Phil in New Hampshire. I heart app Hey Phil,

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01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: good evening, Buck. How are you good evening, sir? Thank you,

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01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:33,959
Speaker 1: I'm good. Congratulations on Gorka. That was excellent, really really

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01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: a good one. Thank you. I like Dr Gorka. We

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01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: have fun talking to each other. Man. You are moving up, brother,

1092
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: and I'm turning a lot of people onto you. Thank you.

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01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: I rely on that, Phil. Just so you know, if

1094
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: everyone listening, are you telling your friends about the show?

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01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: Telling just one friend about the show everyone out there.

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01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: That's a game changer for us, and that's why the

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01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: game is changing here. We're getting bigger all the time.

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01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: But thank you, Phil. Go ahead by all means. I

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01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, break subject just a little bit here.

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01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: And and I had a thought this afternoon about, uh,

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01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: the little Torps and Pantifa. I think I made that up,

1102
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: but maybe I didn't. But the little Torps and Pantifa

1103
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: are they might want to pay attention to the thousands

1104
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: and thousands and thousands of volunteers showing up with boats

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01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: and gear and stuff and energy and willingness and readiness

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01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: and preparedness and understand that these are probably almost one conservatives,

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01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: and this is really I have been watching a pretty

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01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: fair amount at night before I go to bed, and

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01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this group of people showing up and

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01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: showing some real heart, and I'm thinking, here's who you

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01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: should fear. Left and Democrats, uh D, n C. Waters, Perez,

1112
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: the rest of you. You can fund and support Pantifa

1113
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: all you want, and the trail will soon or later

1114
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: come out. Maybe object Paratos will turn it up. But

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: it's like, look, when you wonder why you're not getting

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01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: more opposition showing up at Berkeley and campuses and hiding

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: behind police and acting only in groups, you might want

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01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: to kind of take measure of the effort in Texas

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01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: right now and understand that these shure as heck, don't

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01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: look or act like the kind of people who would

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01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: be real sympathetic to the kind of stuff going on

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01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: or the party that supports it. So you know, not

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01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: to get too dark about it. But I called you

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01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: a long time ago and said the vet that you

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01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: burned a flag in front of didn't forget you. He

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01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: just let you go. And I think these guys are

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01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: pushing it. I got a bunch of friends up here

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01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: who don't often say much. And man, I think patients

1129
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: is running thin with the party that supports Pantifa. And

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01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: and you know those little torps they can't get out

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01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: of their groups and out of their urban environments. If

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: they came this bar, nor where I lived, it wouldn't

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01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: last long. Um. People just don't like seeing the kind

1134
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: of stuff they pulled. Yeah, I don't know if you

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01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: saw this, and I was, I should say that I

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01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: wasn't able to verify it from an independent news source

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01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 1: just yet. But I saw a video put out there

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01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: of some of these black block anarchists that now call

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01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 1: themselves Antifa, where they were attacking a vet in a wheelchair. Um,

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01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: I mean they they assaulted him, they poured out a

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01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: candle or bottle of water on him. And now, I

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01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: don't know. This is one of these things where it

1143
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: could be it could be old. I don't have a meaning.

1144
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: It could be it's something that happened while ago. I

1145
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: don't know the specifics. I just saw the clip before

1146
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: I came in today. I was trying to track it down.

1147
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: But that's the kind of thing. I mean, it reminds

1148
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: me how I felt after I saw people burning who

1149
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: were of a similar mindset to Antifa up at Amherst,

1150
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: burning flags and protesting at a meeting for community members

1151
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: at Amherst who had lost family members in the towers

1152
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: or in the Pentagon or in the planes on nine eleven,

1153
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: and those little punks were burning flags and making political

1154
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: statements about the Native American genocide in front of them.

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01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: And one of them was a friend of mine, and

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01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: she was in tears. He had lost her sister. I

1157
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: have to say, you know, I'm I'm always opposed to

1158
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: violence in response to politics, but it doesn't mean it

1159
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: never crosses my mind. And when I see a veteran

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01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair being mistreated, I I have some pretty uh,

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01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: some pretty dark thoughts about what I want to do

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01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: to the person doing and I'll just I'll just leave

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01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: it out there. Phil in New Hampshire and Shields, I

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01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: appreciate you calling in. Um I I think, well, maybe

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01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about ANTIF. I wrote a

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01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: piece up on the Hill dot Com, which is a

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01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: great site, by the way, especially if you're really interested

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01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: in what's going on in d C. But they do

1169
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: some they do have a great opinion section and they're

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01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: doing some really good reporting, um by my pieces. Anti

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01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,520
Speaker 1: fall is not a political movement. It's a delusional, violent outburst.

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01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: I know quite a bit about anti fa because it's

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01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: a group that I was covering years ago. It's just

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01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: the latest iteration of it. We'll talk about that and

1175
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: then give you my thoughts on Trump's tax speech, which

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01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: will probably be a conversation that continues a little bit

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01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: into tomorrow. Antifa has finally gotten some on the left,

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01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: some prominent folks on the left a little bit nervous.

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01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: It's not because they disagree with the notion that there's

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01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: a creeping fascism in this country because of Trump. No, no, no,

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01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:38,440
Speaker 1: it's because Antifa, anti fuzz antics have been so extreme,

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01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: so unjustifiable, so outrageous, so illegal, so violent, that downplaying

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01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: anti fuzz bad side, that trying to focus on it.

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: It's just a tiny little part of a much bigger

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: and more important protest movement has temporarily, probably just for

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01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,440
Speaker 1: a couple of days here, become unt nable for some Democrats,

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01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: notably Nancy Pelosi, who has come out with a statement

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01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 1: condemning the violence of Antifa. When you've lost Pelosi on

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01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: the left, you've definitely done something wrong, right. I mean

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Speaker 1: because Pelosi la I expect, I respect our protest movements.

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01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean Pelosi will find a way to be okay

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Speaker 1: with anything that's politically advantageous to her as a private

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01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: jet progressive. But Antifa is exposed now in a way

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01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: that the left cannot ignore. So I wrote about this

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01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: today for the Hill dot com. I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: share one or two of the points I made in

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01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: this op ed, and then um expand a bit on

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Speaker 1: it before we go into the break and talk about

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Speaker 1: Trump's speech on taxes tax reform. Everybody whoa it's coming,

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01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: how big will it be? I don't know how important

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: will be to you? And me I am I'm skeptic.

1202
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: I'll come out and tell you that right now. I

1203
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: am a skeptic on how much tax reform will elevate

1204
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: the fortunes of those who are not already asset holders

1205
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: or people who benefit substantially from their roles in corporate America,

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01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: those who work for wages. I don't know how much

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01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: the corporate tax rates really. I know we're supposed to

1208
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: believe that all will be more competitive, higher wages and everything.

1209
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: But I'm getting ahead of myself. We'll get there. Back

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01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: to Antifa and the hill Do Council, here's what I

1211
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: say about them. Despite some media efforts to explain away

1212
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: the obvious Antifa or antifa or antifa, I don't know

1213
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: what the cool kids say, but I say Antifa Antifa

1214
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:50,919
Speaker 1: has always been entirely indefensible. It's not a political movement.

1215
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: It's a violent outburst, an expression of the progressive left

1216
01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: delusional emotionalism. It's primary mission is off the opposition of fascism,

1217
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: but the suppression of ideas words, more than anything else,

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01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,799
Speaker 1: seemed to raise anti fuzz ire. They don't rally against

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01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: specific policies, for example, but they will swarm, menace, and

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01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: shut down conservative speakers on college campuses. Antifa claims for

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01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: itself the Heckler's Vito Vito under the cover of so

1222
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 1: called Nazi punching, but it rarely, if ever, even attempts

1223
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:33,480
Speaker 1: to punch actual Nazis, and so this lie is exposed

1224
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: for what it really is, an excuse to inflict violence

1225
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: on any ideological opponent at any time, for any reason.

1226
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: All they have to do is throw around the term

1227
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: Nazi to smear a conservative and basic respect for the

1228
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: freedom and rights of others no longer applies. That's the

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01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: whole game, that's the whole tactic. That's what Anti Fun does.

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01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: They pretend that it's a Nazis, but it's just about

1231
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: everyone that they don't like. And they pretend that this

1232
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: is a movement intended to bring about identifiable and worthwhile change,

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01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 1: when really it is just an expression of, as I

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 1: put it, a delusional emotionalism. These people think they're waging

1235
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: some you know, some struggle against the creeping fascism of

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01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: the Trump White House from the safety and comfort of,

1237
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: you know, their parents basements most of the time. And

1238
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: so once in a while they'll gather together and run

1239
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: around and throw things at police and act in this

1240
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: childish vandal fashion. That's what they do. They claim to

1241
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: be all about oppressed and minority rights. And then you

1242
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: see the individuals, the thirteen individuals arrested and you know,

1243
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: in the Berkeley protest which turned into a small scale riot,

1244
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: and you're wondering yourself, do they really care how much

1245
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: time any of these individuals spent in any marginalized or

1246
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: minority community. I'm guessing not very much at all, because

1247
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: it's not about those communities it's about the people that

1248
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: are acting out. They get to feel like they are important,

1249
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: like they are worthwhile, like they are better than other people,

1250
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: and they're in the struggle. They're part of the resistance.

1251
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: Real resistance requires risks. Real resistance, worthy of the name,

1252
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: is about a cause that is righteous and it is

1253
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: oftentimes not something that showers the person involved in in

1254
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: in glory and self righteousness. Right, I mean, a a

1255
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: true cause. True resistance is slow, it's difficult, and it

1256
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: requires patients. But that's not what antiphizes about at all.

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01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: He's back with you now because when it comes to

1258
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. Calling on

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01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: Congress to provide a level playing field for workers, are

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01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 1: our companies, to attract new companies and businesses to our shows,

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01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: and to put more money into the pockets of everyday

1262
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: hard working people, and also into the pockets of our

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01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:18,879
Speaker 1: companies so they can continue to grow and expand. President Trump,

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01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:24,520
Speaker 1: after speaking a bit today about relief efforts and expressing

1265
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: his sympathies and and and well wishes to the people

1266
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: of Eastern Texas, Houston, and uh Louisiana for what they're

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01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: going through, he talked about taxes he's he's moving on

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01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: to the agenda as well as pushing for relief efforts

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01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: in Texas. I mean, he's he's doing both. And the

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01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: issue of taxes is certainly, uh an important one. UM.

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Speaker 1: I have to say, I am not as enthusiastic as

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Speaker 1: some others are about what we know so far with

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Speaker 1: regard to this tax discussion. Here's here's what we've been

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Speaker 1: told that this will be about simplification and the corporate

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Speaker 1: tax code. Simplification and the corporate TAXT so we'll have

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Speaker 1: an easier tax code and we will also have a

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Speaker 1: uh well, as Trump says, a better playing field. Here's

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Speaker 1: what he said. Oh, I'm sorry. Um. He said that

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Speaker 1: he'll be bringing the business tax right down to fift

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Speaker 1: We would like to bring our business tax right down

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Speaker 1: to which would make our tax rate lower than most countries,

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Speaker 1: but still by no means the lowest unfortunately in the world.

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Speaker 1: So we do have a very high corporate tax, right.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing to bring the corporate

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Speaker 1: tax rate down, so I'm supportive of that, and I

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Speaker 1: also certainly think simplification is essentially I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: resent the crap out of keeping seats and can I

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Speaker 1: deduct this? Can I deduct that? I have to keep

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Speaker 1: this stuff for like seven years? And all that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I you know, I moved recently, and one of

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Speaker 1: the things that that was a real, a real albatross,

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Speaker 1: and something that I'm very annoyed about is that I

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Speaker 1: had to carry around a I had to carry around

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Speaker 1: this one bin of papers that I have, which is

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Speaker 1: just all my tax stuff from from recent years, you know,

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Speaker 1: carrying it hoping, hoping again, you know, hoping as much

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Speaker 1: as I can that you know, I don't never have

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Speaker 1: to actually produce all this stuff because it means I'm

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Speaker 1: going through the very uncomfortable process of a federal audience.

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Speaker 1: But I have to carry all this crap around. It's

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01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: just nonsense. It is just utter nonsense. And you know,

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: can you do like this? Can you do like that?

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01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean, where where's the what's the judgment call? What's right?

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01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: What's wrong? It's crazy. I think it was Rumsfeld some

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01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: years ago who publicized that he would write a letter

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01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: every year to the I R S saying, look, I

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01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: did the best I can, and I'm trying to pay

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Speaker 1: what you guys want me, or what I'm supposed to pay.

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01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: And I want what you what I'm supposed to pay,

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01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: But this tax pro do you have is is basically unintelligible.

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01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: This TAXOVID you have does doesn't really make any sense.

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01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: So I did my best, just letting you know you

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01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 1: want to all me, go ahead and out of me.

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01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: That was his attitude. But I'm trying here. That was

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01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: Donald Rumsfeld. The guy had been in government for like

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01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: thirty forty years or whatever. The guy had been around forever,

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01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: like hell, every major job except for president, it felt like,

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01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: so he couldn't figure it out. And I'm sure he

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01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: had an army of accountants looking at all this stuff too.

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01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just not that so simplification is great.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it. The fact that Congress hasn't already

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01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: done it it's kind of embarrassing. And a lower corporate

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01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: tax rate, okay, that's a good thing. But now I'm

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01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm now when we're gonna get into the who who benefits?

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01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 1: All right? If I were in, you know, in an

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01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: Italian mobster movie, here somebody says, hey, QUI bono, right,

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01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: who benefits? Um? Who benefits? And corporations will benefit from

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01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 1: me and keep more money? This is nothing new tax cuts.

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01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: Bush did tax cuts, and he did he did tax

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Speaker 1: cuts after not eleven, Right, So we know the Bush

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01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: administration pushed for tax cuts, and now we're going to

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Speaker 1: get into this discussion about well, what will happen if

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Speaker 1: there are these cuts? And also we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: offset this with spending. You know, you know, it's really

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01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: easy to sell people and you get to keep more

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01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: of your money, but what is it's a lot harder

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01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: to sell people on. Sure, you can keep more of

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01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: your money, but we're also going to give you less

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01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: in government services, right, or or we're gonna raise the

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Speaker 1: age for Medicare, or we're gonna do means testing for

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01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: Social Security or whatever it may be. Once you start

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Speaker 1: to adjust that end of the equation, people get a

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01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: little over hold on a second, hold on, hold on

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01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: there everything, all of the sudden changes. Trump is saying

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Speaker 1: that this is about because corporate corporation, sure lower tax rate,

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Speaker 1: they'll have more money on the ballot. Cheat. Okay, great,

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Speaker 1: that's supposed to mean that they're more competitive visa of

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Speaker 1: the international competitors. M Okay, I can buy that. It's

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Speaker 1: also supposed to me they're gonna pay their workers more

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Speaker 1: and do more investment. Okay, I think that's probably true,

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01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,839
Speaker 1: but I I just want to take a skeptical PLV

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Speaker 1: on this. Um. Here's what Trump said about who's going

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01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,719
Speaker 1: to get to keep their money and how it should

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Speaker 1: be bipartisan. What could possibly be more bipartisan then allowing

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Speaker 1: families to keep more of what they are and creating

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01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: an environment for real job and wage growth in the

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Speaker 1: country that we love. Okay, an environment for job and

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Speaker 1: wage growth. By the way, this is just the president

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01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: making the pitch. Congress has to take action. The president

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01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: can sign whenever bill they pass, sure, but he can't

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Speaker 1: do this on his own. He's not gonna pull the Obama.

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Speaker 1: I've got a prominent phone, got a parent of I mean, no,

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Speaker 1: Trump is going to sign a bill that Congress puts

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Speaker 1: in front of him. So right now he's out there.

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Speaker 1: The President's out there trying to look he's trying to

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Speaker 1: sell this deal to the American people. Have a different

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Speaker 1: tax or of changes the tax code. The tax code

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Speaker 1: is a monstrosity of special interest carve outs, social engineering,

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Speaker 1: and it's not progressive. Taxing. Income is not if you're

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Speaker 1: if you're truly going to have a progressive taxation system.

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Speaker 1: You at tax assets not income, which oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: people freak out about that. I'm like, yeah, all of

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01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: a sudden, you have all these democrats were like, sure,

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Speaker 1: raise much access if I care. Well, yeah, that's because

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01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: you know Thurston how the third over there in the corners,

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01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: making a half million dollars a year on unearned income

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Speaker 1: off of assets he already has. You know, the John

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Speaker 1: Curries of the world are out there with a lot

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Speaker 1: of money made by you know, other men that they

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Speaker 1: then married into. Uh and John Cary's out there talking

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Speaker 1: about how he wants you to hire taxes. When he

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Speaker 1: was running for president, I think of the year here

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Speaker 1: after president, he made seven million dollars on just from

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Speaker 1: the investments that he had. So yeah, he doesn't really care, right,

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Speaker 1: But for those of you who are building your own business,

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Speaker 1: who are paying your own bills, who are trying to

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01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: make your way, taxing your wages hurts, And are they

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Speaker 1: really going to change enough of that in this tax

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Speaker 1: code shift to make a difference. Are they really going

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Speaker 1: to allow middle class families, people that are just doing

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Speaker 1: their job, paying their bills, trying to support their families.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to really leave them with more money

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01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: or is this just gonna be ge Goldman, Sacks and

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01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: some others have a little extra cash to pay out

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Speaker 1: and bonuses at the end of the year. I'm not

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Speaker 1: convinced yet. I'm not sure. I'll keep an eye on this.

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Speaker 1: Buck sext in here with you in the Freedom Hut team.

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01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: You probably have heard of think tanks. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people sitting around do a lot of thinkings, spending on

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Speaker 1: a tad big like excuse me, sir, I've good to

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Speaker 1: put together a bunch of research with the Excel spread

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Speaker 1: shates and that I'm going to sell them to other

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01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: scholars that we're going to have alleged where we discussed

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01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: the research and the excel s graduates. Most thing tanks

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01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: are pretty boring. I know because I have worked in

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01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: a number of think tanks, and I mean, yeah, people

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01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: sit around doing a lot of thinking, but not a

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01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: whole lot else. And it depends where you are. But

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01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: some of them are more public education focused, others are

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01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 1: more policy focused, and still others seem to be just

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Speaker 1: holding tanks more than think tanks for future administration officials

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Speaker 1: who are out of power because their political party got

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Speaker 1: voted out. Of office. But we would like to think,

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Speaker 1: or at least some people. I don't think this because

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Speaker 1: I think that think tanks are overwhelmingly bought and paid

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Speaker 1: for by certain donors, which is where I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: this discussion just a second. But the American people would

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Speaker 1: like to think that think tanks are rooted in some integrity,

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01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: that there are some level of uh, scholarly integrity that

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01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: pushes the work more than anything else. And that's not

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Speaker 1: true for the overwhelming majority of them. I mean, yeah,

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01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: there are good people who work there, they're doing good work.

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Speaker 1: But when push comes to shove, just like in politics,

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01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,799
Speaker 1: think tanks cave two donors. And there's this interesting piece

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Speaker 1: in the New York Times, Google critic ousted from think

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Speaker 1: tank funded by tech giant, and it talks about the

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Speaker 1: New America Foundation, which is quote an elite voice in

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Speaker 1: policy debates on the American laugh. So this is a

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Speaker 1: lefty think tank that got millions and millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: from Google. Google gave them big chunks of cash. But

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Speaker 1: after Google got fined two point seven billion dollars in June,

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Speaker 1: there was a scholar who worked for New America who

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Speaker 1: I know, you're already like, no, trust me, this will

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01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: get more interesting. Stay with me. Uh. There was a

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Speaker 1: scholar work for New America who was like, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is probably a good thing Google, which is now owned

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Speaker 1: by Alphabet which Google is the same company that tossed

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Speaker 1: James Daymore out for writing in a forum discussion about

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01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: an area not just that he had some familiarity with,

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01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 1: but in which he had studied for his PhD in

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01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: biology at Harvard. They still booted him. Google is the

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01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: same company, and Google has more information on people all

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01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: around the world, and probably any other company in the planet.

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01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: The only one that comes close is Facebook. But Google,

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01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: uh gives all this money to the New America Foundation

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01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: or whatever this is called, which is the think tank,

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01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 1: and it's run by this Anne Marie Slaughter woman. And uh,

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Speaker 1: this guy named something Lynn, I forget what is What

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01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 1: his full name is doesn't really matter, Mr Lynn. He

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01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 1: is open about how he thinks this is a good thing,

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01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 1: and this is his job, this is the area that

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01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: he studies, this is something that he knows well, this

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01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: is what he focuses on in this think tank. And

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01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he comes out and says, this

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01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: is Barry Lynn is his name. He writes he's working

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01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: this thing tank that he thinks to fine against Google

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01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: is probably good, and he's one of the people that

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01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 1: criticizes the overwhelming market dominance of Google. Let me think

1459
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: about this. Google has so much control over what you see,

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01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: over what ads get served, over what businesses you know about.

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01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Google's power right now in the marketplace is

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Speaker 1: immense for all of us, every single one of you

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01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: listening right now. Google really matters, whether you want it

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01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: to or not. It does. I know some people like, well,

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01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 1: what about Yahoo? I mean, what was a lot? I

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01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I never used Yahoo, So I don't know

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01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: what to tell you. And it's not like either them

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01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: sponsored me here. I'm just telling you what's going on.

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01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: So Google is uh funding New American Foundation. This guy

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Speaker 1: who works for New America or sending not entirely funding

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01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 1: but sending big checks. This guy criticized Google and then

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Speaker 1: he gets called into Miss Slaughter's office a few days

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01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: after this happens and is told that it's time to

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01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:24,759
Speaker 1: part ways. So this is quite obvious what's going on here? Right? Uh?

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Speaker 1: She said that he later on, By the way, Ms Slaughter,

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01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: who runs the think tank New America Foundation said that Mr.

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01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,679
Speaker 1: Lyn this guy Berry Lynne who was fired, this scholar

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01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: there was quote imperiling the institution as a whole. Uh so,

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Speaker 1: and also that he was lacking in collegiality or something

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Speaker 1: in dealing with colleagues. I mean, so they had some

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Speaker 1: they had to cover themselves because once people find out

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Speaker 1: that these scholars are essentially doing research any area that

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01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: touches on a company where they're getting big checks, they

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01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: can't be trusted. That effect the trust that people have

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01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 1: and all the rest of their research and products too.

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01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: So in the case of what happened here with Google,

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01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 1: they threw their weight around. They got this guy and

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01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of others I believe who worked with

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01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: him as well fired. And it's all about the funding,

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01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 1: you know. This is why universities have tenure in place.

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01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:26,480
Speaker 1: We think of tenure now is allowing for uh lazy

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01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 1: progressives to lecture the rest of the world about Marxism

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01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: while they are essentially unfire able and getting paid pretty well,

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01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: especially at private universities, to do very little. But tenure

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01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 1: was initially set up so that people wouldn't be in

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Speaker 1: fear of their jobs being taken away. If they had

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Speaker 1: an unpopular thought or wrote in which is amazing because

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01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: now what you have is no one or everyone with

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01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: tenure won't actually do what's unpopular. They won't actually do

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Speaker 1: anything because it's become such an echo chamber on campus. Well,

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01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: that echo chamber is very much ineffect at Google as well,

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01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: as we know from the James Daymore firing member. He

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01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 1: was the guy who was who wrote at Google about how,

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01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, maybe women are a little different for men,

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01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 1: and maybe that affects some of their choices. Not all women,

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01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: not every person, not every man, but you know, maybe

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01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 1: there's some differences here in the bio and the biology

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01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 1: and the aggregate that we should explore if we're going

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01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 1: to talk about how to bring more women into the

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01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: workplace at Google in specific positions in which they can excel. Boom,

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Speaker 1: he's fired. How how dare you sir? That was what

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01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 1: they said. They they booted him out, and then people

1513
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: are like, oh my gosh, I just can't go to

1514
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: work like he's just the microaggressions were like macro aggressions.

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01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: It was so sad. So they had to uh get

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01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,839
Speaker 1: rid of him, and they did, and Google really embarrass

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01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:47,759
Speaker 1: itself but they have so much money, they're so powerful

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01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,839
Speaker 1: that embarrassed. It doesn't matter. We're all still using Google,

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01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: right until somebody else comes along with something better, We're

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01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: all still using Google, and until ask Jeeves makes it

1521
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 1: a return. I remember that one. It's like I'm gonna ask.

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01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask this guy, like ask the butler to

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01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 1: ask Yahoo for me. It didn't really make sense. Uh.

1524
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 1: But Google also has influence in places that you may

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01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: not realize. And a good example of this, of course

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01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: is the New American Foundation, this think tank which is

1527
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 1: already a progressive left you think tank, but you'll see

1528
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: there there is no room for criticism of major donors

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01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: at New America Foundation or at at any of these

1530
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 1: think tanks. Really, maybe some of them will stand up.

1531
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: And when when you have, you know, a a certain

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01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: level of prestige in d C, there may be as

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01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: a think tank, you know, you may be able to

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01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: stand up. I mean, I think the Counsel on Form

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01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 1: Relations would because it has such a big budget and

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01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 1: as so many donors, it would be tough to get

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01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 1: them to fire somebody for what they write. Not impossible,

1538
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: but tough. Um. But for these progressive thing tanks. It's like,

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01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: whoever is writing the checks, calling the shots and the

1540
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: CFR is left of center, But it's it's not left

1541
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: it's uh. I mean I spent some time there as

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01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 1: as an intern I so I remember. UM. Not the

1543
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: worst internship ever that I'll tell you about later on

1544
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 1: this hour. But this is just an important reminder of

1545
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: the influence that some of these mega companies like Google have,

1546
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: well beyond just what is obviously involved with Google, which

1547
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 1: is already which is already enormous. But there are private

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01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: companies out there. And I know some of you are

1549
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: probably already thinking, oh, wait a second, doesn't Jeff Bezos

1550
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: of Amazon on the Washington Post? Yeah? Does anyone think

1551
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: that that's not an important connection? Does anyone think that

1552
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 1: Carlos Slim's considerable investment in The New York Times to

1553
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: keep it alive UM had had maybe something to do?

1554
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: Or do you think it had nothing to do with

1555
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 1: The New York Times dramatically changing its line on a

1556
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: legal immigration. I just you look at where the money

1557
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:55,799
Speaker 1: is coming. Always look, always look at where the money's

1558
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: coming from. It'll tell you a lot about the situation,

1559
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 1: and you face it will give you a lot of

1560
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: insight into the motivations of groups and individuals who will

1561
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: until they're blue in the face tell you that there

1562
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 1: are nonpartisan, unbiased, just giving you the facts, just the

1563
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,879
Speaker 1: straight perspective. But then when you start to see who's

1564
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 1: writing the checks, you go, hmm, you don't you know,

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01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 1: you don't go there. You don't seem to be willing

1566
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: to offend that that institution. Now that's true for all

1567
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 1: of us. Right, if you bad mouth your employer, you're

1568
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 1: gonna get fired. But this is different. This isn't refusing

1569
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: to bad mouth your employer. This is a a lack

1570
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: of honesty that is enforced by enormous private companies like

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01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: Google that have tremendous influence, and they do this quietly

1572
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: and behind the scenes. They enforce a code of dishonesty

1573
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: really on some academics when it comes to talking about

1574
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: how powerful Google is and issues like James Daymore's firing

1575
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: and whether Google should be subject to antitrust law, whether

1576
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 1: Google should be broken up as a matter of law.

1577
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 1: I mean, that's really what this all comes down to

1578
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 1: in the end. So I just think it's important to

1579
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: keep and keep an eye on all this. It's important

1580
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: to understand the financial connections that exist for all of

1581
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: these entities that are playing very large roles in our

1582
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 1: day to day lives. They have agendas. There are people

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01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: that run these things. There are people with ideas and

1584
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: with their own biases, prejudices, predilections, proclivities, and they are

1585
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: going to find ways to try to influence not just

1586
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 1: the conversation, but to influence the way all of us think.

1587
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: So just remember that when we talk about think tanks,

1588
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: he's holding the line for America. Buck Sexton is back.

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01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Buck Sexton, here with you now. Team. I

1590
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: am often asked, how can you be a conservative when

1591
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: you grew up in Manhattan, when you're from New York

1592
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: City and you were surrounded with liberals, it would have

1593
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: been socially advantageous for you to be a liberal. You

1594
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 1: went to a liberal arts college that was to the

1595
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 1: left of Karl Marks in its politics. What happened to you?

1596
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 1: What happened to borrow from the Hillary book? And the answer,

1597
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: which could be a podcast onto itself, and maybe one

1598
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: day I'll get into the journey of conservatism that I had,

1599
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,719
Speaker 1: or into conservatism which started at a very young age.

1600
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: But I just remember being told things and knowing, well,

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01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: that's not true. People would say things and it was

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01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 1: the conventional wisdom, and I thinking to myself, that's not accurate,

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01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 1: or how do they know that. I'd like proof. I

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01:34:56,600 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 1: think that the basis of conservatism is honest questioning, and

1605
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: so I was very pleased to see that there was

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01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: at Princeton University a statement put out by the James

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01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions, signed by a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of professors, including Nicholas Kristakis at Yale, most

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Speaker 1: well known perhaps for being screamed at by some of

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01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: his students for trying to get them to be more

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01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: open minded about children's costumes on Halloween, and also Robbie George,

1612
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 1: the professor of jurisprudence at Princeton University, who was a

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01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:46,919
Speaker 1: kind of counterpart to my own thesis advisor, Hadley Archy's

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01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 1: at Amherst College, who was really the lone conservative on

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01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 1: my campus. Uh, And of course we found each other quickly,

1616
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 1: and he was an intellectual shelter in the storm of

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01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:03,879
Speaker 1: Marxism at Amherst. But here's what this James Madison Program

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01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 1: statement from professors. It just was released yesterday. Here's what

1619
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 1: it says, some thoughts and advice for our students and

1620
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: all students. We are scholars and teachers at Princeton, Harvard,

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01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: and Yale who have some thoughts to share and advice

1622
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: to offer students who are headed off to colleges around

1623
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: the country. Our advice can be distilled to three words,

1624
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 1: think for yourself. Now. That might sound easy, but you

1625
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,759
Speaker 1: will find, as you may have discovered already in high school,

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01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,879
Speaker 1: that thinking for yourself can be a challenge. It always

1627
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 1: demands self discipline, and these days can require courage. In

1628
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:50,879
Speaker 1: today's climate, it's all too easy to allow your views

1629
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 1: and outlook to be shaped by dominant opinion on your

1630
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 1: campus or in the broader academic culture. The danger any

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01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 1: student or faculty member aces today is falling into the

1632
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: vice of conformism, yielding to group think. At many colleges

1633
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 1: and universities, what John Stuart Mill called the tyranny of

1634
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,480
Speaker 1: public opinion does more than merely discourage students from dissenting

1635
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 1: from prevailing views on moral, political, and other types of questions.

1636
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 1: It leads them to suppose that dominant views are so

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01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: obviously correct that only a bigot or a crank could

1638
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: question them. Since no one wants to be or be

1639
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 1: thought of as a bigot or a crank, the easy,

1640
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 1: lazy way to proceed is simply by falling into line

1641
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: with campus orthodox eyes. Don't do that. Think for yourself.

1642
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 1: Thinking for yourself means questioning dominant ideas, even when others

1643
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 1: insist on being treated as unquestionable. It means deciding what

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01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: one believes, not by conforming to pastionable opinions, but by

1645
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 1: taking the trouble to learn and honestly consider the strongest

1646
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 1: arguments to be advanced on both or all sides of questions,

1647
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 1: including arguments for positions that others revile and want to stigmatize,

1648
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 1: and against positions others seek to immunize from critical scrutiny.

1649
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: The love of truth and the desire to attain it

1650
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:28,719
Speaker 1: should motivate you to think for yourself. The central point

1651
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 1: of a college education is to seek truth and to

1652
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: learn the skills and acquire the virtues necessary to be

1653
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: a lifelong truth seeker. Open mindedness, critical thinking, and debate

1654
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 1: are essential to discovering the truth. Moreover, they are our

1655
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 1: best antidotes to bigotry. Miriam Webster's first definition of the

1656
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 1: word bigot is a person who quote obstinately or intolerantly

1657
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 1: devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, will

1658
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 1: not from them. The only people who need fear open

1659
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: minded inquiry and robust debate are the actual bigots, including

1660
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 1: those on campuses or in the broader society, who seek

1661
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 1: to protect the hegemony of their opinions by claiming that

1662
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 1: to question those opinions is itself bigotry. So don't be

1663
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:27,520
Speaker 1: tyrannized by public opinion. Don't get trapped in an echo chamber.

1664
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:31,719
Speaker 1: Whether you in the end reject or embrace a view,

1665
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 1: make sure you decide where you stand by critically assessing

1666
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 1: the arguments for the competing positions. Think for yourself. Good

1667
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: luck to you in college. And then you have a

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01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 1: whole bunch of professors, well about ten signing this, But

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01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 1: they're from Harvard and Yale and Princeton, a handful of

1670
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 1: fastors who have not forgotten their central obligation. Two. Encourage

1671
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 1: students to ask questions and seek the truth, not to

1672
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 1: seek popularity, not to seek security or the false security

1673
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 1: of consensus. But you understand why they believe what they believe.

1674
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:27,759
Speaker 1: What the other side believes and ultimately what comes closest

1675
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 1: to if what is not absolutely true, that's supposed to

1676
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 1: be what college is all about. That's supposed to be

1677
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: what education is all about these days, that has been

1678
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:44,679
Speaker 1: not just forgotten, but actively suppressed on the left. And

1679
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: it is encouraging that there are at least a handful

1680
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: of academics left at some of these elite institutions signing

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01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 1: this James Madison Program statement. Simply put, think for yourself. Team.

1682
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 1: I have enjoyed our session together as I always do.

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01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: UM I would ask that you please go check out

1684
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 1: the latest on buck Sexen dot com. If if you

1685
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 1: haven't seen that political cartoon that they tweeted and then deleted,

1686
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 1: we have it up on buck sex and dot com.

1687
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: You gotta see it to believe it. Also, if you

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Speaker 1: want to get some Team Buck gear buck sexen dot

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Speaker 1: com slash store you can get t shirts, mugs, hats,

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01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: and we're working on all kinds of stuff for you

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01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 1: there in the store. Tomorrow, we are going to do

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01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:38,440
Speaker 1: a segment on International Overdose Awareness Day UH and it's

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01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 1: a very important and very serious, very sobering subject. We

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01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 1: have Nikki six of Motley Crew scheduled to join, and

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01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna be having a very um serious conversation tomorrow

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01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 1: about about Overdose Awareness Day and his own battles with

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01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 1: heroin and the addiction to heroin that he had. But

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01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to take a moment before we have that

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01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 1: conversation tomorrow to just say that it's it's pretty amazing

1700
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 1: to be here and be on radio and to get

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01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 1: to talk to some of the people who when I

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01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 1: was a kid growing up, vise were you know, I

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01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:21,680
Speaker 1: mean MTV and the if you grew up like I

1704
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 1: did in the eighties, MTV was incredible. I mean MTV

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01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: was the visualization of everything that was cool and sexy

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01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 1: and cutting edge of the culture. I mean in the eighties,

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01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:40,799
Speaker 1: MTV was a was a real phenomenon. And music videos

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01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 1: because you didn't have YouTube, you didn't have smartphones, we

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01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 1: could carry video around with you all the time, you

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01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 1: didn't have the Internet. Uh, music videos were incredible and

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01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 1: you really got to know a song and its music

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01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: video together. In fact, I think you could argue that

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01:42:56,560 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: some of the biggest recording artists of that era, uh,

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01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 1: we're really only possible where their careers were at least

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01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:10,639
Speaker 1: greatly assisted by music videos and MTV. Madonna comes to mind.

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01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,640
Speaker 1: There are others as well, for whom the video expression

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01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,679
Speaker 1: of the song that they had recorded was perhaps even

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01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 1: more important than the song, the tune and the lyrics itself. Um.

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01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: But Motley Crew I thought was such a such a

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01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: cool rock band, And I went through a phase when

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01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 1: I was younger where I definitely listened to a fair

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01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 1: amount of I guess what we call hair metal um.

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01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 1: And then later on, although I'm really more of a

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01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:42,520
Speaker 1: nineties nostalgia guy because that's when I was a teenager

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01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: and bands like Sound Garden, Chris Cornell, Rest In Peace, Stone,

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01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: Temple Pilots, those were the bands that really resonated with me.

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01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: But before that, I definitely watched a lot of Motley

1728
01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 1: Crewe and Poison and Arrowsmith and these these different hair

1729
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 1: bands up on stage. And I will tell you that

1730
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 1: I had the worst internship of my entire life. And

1731
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 1: I had some crappy internships. I really did. I mean,

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01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: I had some internships where I was just doing. First

1733
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 1: of all, I was working for free, which I am

1734
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 1: very opposed to accepting special circumstances. Don't work for free,

1735
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 1: work for a paycheck, work for money. Your your labor

1736
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 1: has value when you're younger. Don't get drawn into this. Oh,

1737
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna unless there's a clear pathway to

1738
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: a paid position, and you know it's apparent to you

1739
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 1: if it's just a resume builder. A job where you

1740
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 1: have to show up, you get a paycheck, and if

1741
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 1: you don't do your job, you get fired, is a

1742
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 1: resume builder. That is the kind of economic character building

1743
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 1: that should be much more celebrated among younger people among

1744
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 1: my generation than it was and and among the current generation. Uh,

1745
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 1: instead of all of this basement dwelling, video game playing, instagramming,

1746
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 1: skyping and all well skyping, I sound like I'm really

1747
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 1: out of touch, but instagramming constantly, uh Snapchat people should

1748
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 1: be showing up doing a job, getting a paycheck. I'm

1749
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 1: a I'm a firm believer in a massive overhaul of

1750
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: the education system. Well in a lot of ways. I

1751
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 1: have some pretty radical ideas when it comes to education.

1752
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 1: And I think that before you go to college after

1753
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:33,719
Speaker 1: high school, mandatory two years, mandatory two years to do something.

1754
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 1: Serve your country. Um, you know, if you serve, serve

1755
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 1: in the military, serve in the work in the private

1756
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: sector volunteer somewhere. Just do something where you have to

1757
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: function as an adult for two years, because to go

1758
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 1: from high school to a four year long party in

1759
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 1: undergrad is not, I think the best way at all.

1760
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 1: I really don't. I'm I'm a firm believer in in

1761
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 1: a double I guess it would be a double gap

1762
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 1: year or a two year gap between high school and college.

1763
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: But back to the worst internship ever, because I thought

1764
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 1: all this music stuff was like everyone does, and that

1765
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,800
Speaker 1: was it was a much more I think a part

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01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: of our day to day lives in a way where

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01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 1: you were interacting with music, and it was special because

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01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 1: you know, you had to have either a radio or

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01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 1: a CD player or a cassette player. Now, I mean

1770
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 1: I carry around all this different music in my pocket.

1771
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: It's just changed. It's just different now. But you know,

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01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 1: if you had, like a CD by a band you loved,

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01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 1: you I thought that was a really valuable object. And

1774
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 1: h m V. I remember going to the h m

1775
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 1: V Store and that was his whole experience. And you're

1776
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 1: just wandering around. Instead of being at an actual library

1777
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 1: of books, which would have probably been a better thing,

1778
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 1: you're looking at a library of c d s and

1779
01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 1: it was just this whole music culture and rock and

1780
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 1: roll and hip hop and uh, country to countries become

1781
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,679
Speaker 1: actually much more commercial I think in the last fifteen

1782
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 1: years or so than it was when I was younger.

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01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 1: Country is really I think country and hip hop or

1784
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 1: really the two most popular forms of music in the country. Um.

1785
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 1: But the internship that I had was at a music

1786
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 1: publishing company many years ago, and like it was one

1787
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 1: of these things where it was a friend of a

1788
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:26,680
Speaker 1: friend of the family or whatever, and they offered to

1789
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 1: let me and it was only I think I was

1790
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 1: there for a month and then I went off and

1791
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,719
Speaker 1: was a camp counselor so it was a really short

1792
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: period of time, but I mean it was one of

1793
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 1: the longest months of my life. I mean it was.

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01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful summer. I'm here in New York

1795
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:45,680
Speaker 1: City and I'm at some music publishing from which you

1796
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: go in there and their offices are so cool and

1797
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 1: they have giant, you know, billboards on the wall with uh,

1798
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 1: you know, Molly Crew posters and Aerosmith and Usher and

1799
01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, all this difference to all these different people. Actually,

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01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 1: sure that might have been before, but you know, all

1801
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: these different big music acts and Rolling Stone. Well, now

1802
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: that's just too early. I don't know whatever whoever was

1803
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 1: big in like the year two thousand, because I think

1804
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 1: that's when I did this. So it was just maybe

1805
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 1: my freshman year of college, either right before right after.

1806
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 1: And I was sitting there and I just got exposed

1807
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 1: a little bit. They didn't have much for me to do,

1808
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 1: so I was doing the absolute grunt work, exposed to

1809
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 1: the publishing side of the business. And it's just a

1810
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 1: lot of uh. There were a lot of talking about

1811
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 1: rights and lawsuits and rights and you know, licensing music out.

1812
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know where it's like when

1813
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 1: do I get to go and party with you know,

1814
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 1: like Biggie or something, or like when do I get

1815
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 1: actually Biggie passed away by them? But you know what

1816
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when do I get to see

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01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: like some of these great music acts that Nope, none

1818
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 1: of that, uh, none of that. It was just me

1819
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 1: sitting at a dead doing basic admin work. And I

1820
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 1: will say this and this always stuck with me, the

1821
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 1: amount of unsolicited and really intricate and and really involved submissions.

1822
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,640
Speaker 1: This was the first time I had ever been exposed

1823
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 1: to the creative, uh side of of commercial activity, right

1824
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:27,800
Speaker 1: where people are trying to break into the creative arts.

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01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:32,640
Speaker 1: The submissions they had me, I was an intern for

1826
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 1: a month. I was the person that was going through

1827
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: piles and piles of CDs and homemade music videos and

1828
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 1: and they and they basically said, if you see something

1829
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:47,640
Speaker 1: that is absolutely amazing, we might have you know, the

1830
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: guy who's like your immediate supervisor, take a look at it.

1831
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 1: So even if I saw something totally amazing, it was

1832
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 1: about five levels of review before anyone seeing it that

1833
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 1: anyone cared about. But people really had sent in all

1834
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 1: this and I know they weren't there. They were sending

1835
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 1: it to a lot of places, and it was almost

1836
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 1: like a mass mailing, but it was you know, some

1837
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: of the bands were really we're good. Um, not all

1838
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:12,799
Speaker 1: that memorable, but we're good. It's also this was before

1839
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 1: American Idol, and to see people who think that they're

1840
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 1: going to have a career as a professional musician and

1841
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 1: they're really not. Um they're really really not. I mean

1842
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:27,759
Speaker 1: I was like nineteen years old and and I knew,

1843
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, no, it wasn't gonna happen. To see

1844
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 1: that was also eye opening and it was really my

1845
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 1: first exposure to what a brutal business being on the

1846
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:44,919
Speaker 1: creative side is. I mean, you just have people fighting

1847
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:48,759
Speaker 1: for every scrap. It's not fair. And on the business

1848
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: side of the creative side, it just wasn't for me. Man,

1849
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 1: I was not the music publishing company I turned out.

1850
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. It was that when I got to

1851
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: go out and get a sandwich for everybody in the

1852
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 1: office and do my runs, I was like I was

1853
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,600
Speaker 1: coming up for air after being in the in the

1854
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, the the murkiest, grossest lake or something. It

1855
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 1: just was I couldn't wait to get the heck out

1856
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:14,600
Speaker 1: of there. So it was important to learn what I

1857
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 1: didn't want to do with that team. I will say

1858
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:19,680
Speaker 1: that we're going to close up shop here in the

1859
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:21,640
Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt for the day, but of course tomorrow we

1860
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:27,879
Speaker 1: will be back in action as always. Buck Sexton on Twitter.

1861
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 1: If you're not already following me, please do. And the

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Speaker 1: listen to you, or at least we'll hear an opinion

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Speaker 1: from you. And until tomorrow, my friends, shields high