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<v Speaker 1>works dot com. Hello, everyone, Welcome to tech Stuff. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Chris Poet and I am an editor at

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<v Speaker 1>is senior writer Jonathan Strickland, Little Darlin, the smiles returning

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<v Speaker 1>to the faces, Little Darling, it seems like years since

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<v Speaker 1>it's been here. H. That was a nice choice for

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<v Speaker 1>today's topic, which is I think something that everyone will

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<v Speaker 1>find electrifying. Yeah, and in fact, this comes to us

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<v Speaker 1>courtesy of a Google Plus suggestion. This comes from Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>who says this may be a bit simple, but have

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<v Speaker 1>you guys ever done an overview of solar technology and

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<v Speaker 1>solar tech history? Just re listened to your battery podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and it made me wonder more about alternative energy sources. Adam, um,

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<v Speaker 1>your definition of simple and my definition of simple are

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<v Speaker 1>too very different things. But but yeah, we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about solar power, solar cells also known as photo voltaic cells,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh kind of where it came from. M Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not they're certainly not new. UM. We have an

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<v Speaker 1>article about how solar cells work on the website UM

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<v Speaker 1>which discusses how they were used in the nineteen fifties

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<v Speaker 1>in space uh space technology. Yeah. In fact, the well,

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<v Speaker 1>to go back even further, the photoelectric effect, which of

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<v Speaker 1>course is the basis of photovoltaic fells, that was first

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<v Speaker 1>discovered by a or at least first observed by a

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<v Speaker 1>French physicist named Edmund Beckerel. It's an eighteen thirty nine. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that was some time ago. Yeah. Now, granted he observed

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<v Speaker 1>that certain materials, if if exposed to sunlight, would produce

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of electric current, but there wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>any way of putting that to any use at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just it was an interesting scientific observation and

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<v Speaker 1>that was the the limit of it. Einstein himself began

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<v Speaker 1>to ruminate on this, decided about, you know, to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of think about what is the nature of light, how

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<v Speaker 1>does it interact with the nature of electricity, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship there? Um? And then he actually won a Nobel

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<v Speaker 1>Prize based on his observations. Now, the first module photo

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<v Speaker 1>vote vol take module, because a module is a collection

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<v Speaker 1>of photo voltaic cells. In fact, we can get this

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way and really early on, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about like the a sense of scale,

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<v Speaker 1>an individual photo voltaic cell, when grouped together with other

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<v Speaker 1>photo voltaic cells, makes a module, and groups of modules

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<v Speaker 1>together make an array. So it's just it's just as

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<v Speaker 1>a question of scale. So array isn't a group of

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<v Speaker 1>modules and modules a group of photo photo voltaic cells.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stumble over that over and over in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>so I hope you guys are listening at twice speed

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<v Speaker 1>so that the chipmunk is messing up over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and not me. Anyway. The first module was built by

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<v Speaker 1>Bell Laboratories, and that was in nineteen fifty four. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>at that point they were thinking of it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>they think they called it a solar battery. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even call it a solar cell at that point, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of considered to be an interesting idea

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<v Speaker 1>but not at all practical. I think they determined that

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<v Speaker 1>based upon the amount of work and uh it took

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<v Speaker 1>to develop and manufacture that first module. They were getting

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<v Speaker 1>about a watt for every I think it's two fifty

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<v Speaker 1>bucks per what, which is not efficient doesn't even compare

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<v Speaker 1>to other materials at all. Right, So not something that

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<v Speaker 1>they could implement immediately in order to to try and

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<v Speaker 1>generate electricity. And and then later on the fifties and

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<v Speaker 1>then into the sixties, really primarily in the sixties, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the space industry began to use these solar cells

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get power for vehicles that be traveling

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<v Speaker 1>through space and also satellites that would be placed in

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<v Speaker 1>orbit around the Earth. You know, you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>power going to these satellites somehow, and you know, batteries

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<v Speaker 1>can provide power, but power batteries will die out and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way of recharging easily when you can't tether

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<v Speaker 1>the device to the Earth. Okay, spot Nick, enough of that. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>solar cells were a way to be first for satellites

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<v Speaker 1>to gather power and remain in orbit functioning properly for longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Now, why are we even talking about solar power

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. Well, mainly because it's abundant, and

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<v Speaker 1>one would imagine inexpensive. I mean, you've got about a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand watts of energy per square meter of the planet's surface. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of energy. Uh. You know, the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>shoots out lots of lots of energy towards the Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, really, the Sun shoots out lots of energy everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but we on Earth are happy to receive quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of it. Uh and we some of it gets

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<v Speaker 1>absorbed in the atmosphere, some of it gets absorbed by

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<v Speaker 1>the surface of the Earth, some of it is converted

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<v Speaker 1>into energy via photosynthesis by the agitation, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of it just kind of gets reflected back off

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<v Speaker 1>into space. So there's all this energy that is not

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<v Speaker 1>being used in any meaningful way at all, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's going away. And uh So the thought is

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<v Speaker 1>using solar cell technology, we could perhaps harness some of

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<v Speaker 1>this energy that otherwise we would just lose um. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the basis behind the the push for solar energy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the engineering challenges that face us as we try to

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<v Speaker 1>actually harness that power are what kind of keep us

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<v Speaker 1>from just adopting it wholesale. That and also, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's some practical problems besides the engineering issues. Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you live in a place where there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you don't get a lot of sun, then

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<v Speaker 1>solar energy doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be a lot it would be a heavy investment

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<v Speaker 1>for very little payoff. Um. Now, if you live in

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<v Speaker 1>a place that tends to get sun most of the error,

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<v Speaker 1>than solar cells make a lot more sense. Yeah. The

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<v Speaker 1>basics involve something that we've talked about many times in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Semiconductors, which is a material that allows some

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<v Speaker 1>electrons to flow, but not all the available electrons to flow,

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<v Speaker 1>permits some flow of electricity, but not there's some control, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It acts somewhat like a conductor and somewhat like an insulator.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh and and it's the relationship between the semiconductor

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<v Speaker 1>and photons, which are the particles that we can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>units of light energy really because you talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>light can be both a wave and a particle, but

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<v Speaker 1>really talk about a photon having a certain amount of

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<v Speaker 1>energy um. And the energy has to be enough to

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<v Speaker 1>cause the semiconductor to conduct electricity. And I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>can get into how that works and the basis behind that,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh really comes down to things like a selah

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<v Speaker 1>common crystals. Yeah, yeah, well it's possible. I should say

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<v Speaker 1>upfront that it's not always silicon. That's true, silicon being

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<v Speaker 1>the predominant material it's used. I think for the purposes

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<v Speaker 1>of of this early part of the discussion, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should think of the solar cells that you see

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<v Speaker 1>mounted on roofs and different places, because those are the

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<v Speaker 1>ones with which most of us are familiar. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the dominant semiconductor used in that as silicon. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>in order to understand how the solar cells work, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gon we're gonna have to take a little a little

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<v Speaker 1>chemistry lesson here and learn more about silicon itself. So,

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<v Speaker 1>silicon is an atom that has fourteen electrons. Yea. There

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<v Speaker 1>are three different shells um and the first two are

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<v Speaker 1>are full. There are two and eight electrons, but uh

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<v Speaker 1>the outer shell has room for eight, but generally only

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<v Speaker 1>has four. So, uh, you know the shells case you

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember, the shells are essentially they represent a general

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<v Speaker 1>space around the nucleus of the atom where electrons are

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<v Speaker 1>capable of existing. And because electrons are negatively charged and

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<v Speaker 1>and like charge, Uh, what's the word thank you? It

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<v Speaker 1>just escaped repulse to repelled? Yes, that those those sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they away from thank you. Yeah. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they don't like each other. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably not quite as sophisticated as our listeners expect,

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<v Speaker 1>well they expected from me. You're so so like like

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<v Speaker 1>charges repel one another, Thank you, Mr Palette. Without you,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have just been sitting here quiet and Matt

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<v Speaker 1>would have been snickering in the other room. Space is

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<v Speaker 1>getting really read. It was really entertining, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>happens sometimes my brain just gives out on me. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>light getting back to it like charge repels like so, so,

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<v Speaker 1>these electron shells represent a space where electrons are capable

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<v Speaker 1>of existing, and you can't have more electrons in that

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<v Speaker 1>space because the negative charges would push push the electrons out.

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<v Speaker 1>So then the second shell, that's the one where you

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<v Speaker 1>can have up to eight electrons there, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>third shell, up to eight can exist there, but only

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<v Speaker 1>four are there in a in a silicon atom, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you you know, there's room for more electrons there.

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<v Speaker 1>In a way, I hesitate to use the word want

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just sentience. But it's it's these atoms are not,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as we know, sentient in any way, tend

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, they there is a a there's a tendency

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<v Speaker 1>for these atoms to require more electrons in that final

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<v Speaker 1>shell to have a full outer shell. Right, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the goal of these atoms, as if there were like

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of conscious goal. So, so when you get

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of silicon atoms together, they tend to

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<v Speaker 1>bond together, um because they begin to share electrons in

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<v Speaker 1>their outer shells, and so they get really really tight.

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<v Speaker 1>So a silicon atom will bond with four other silicon

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<v Speaker 1>atoms to fill up that outer shell. And each of

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<v Speaker 1>those silicon atoms are bonding to up with up to

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<v Speaker 1>four other silicon itoms to fill up their outer shell,

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<v Speaker 1>and this creates a crystalline structure, and they bond with

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<v Speaker 1>four friends and so on and so on. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you get this crystalline structure. Now, once you have this,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking right now about a pure silicon crystalline structure, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So when you get all these these outer shells full

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<v Speaker 1>of electrons, there's a problem and that it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>conduct electricity at that point because you don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>free electrons, free raining electrons to uh to move through

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<v Speaker 1>that material. So if you introduce electricity, it's hard. It

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<v Speaker 1>takes a lot more energy to break the electrons out

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<v Speaker 1>of those bonds so that they will flow through. If

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<v Speaker 1>you you can do it, but you have to put

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of energy into the system. Yeah. What you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for here is free carriers, the electrons that are

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<v Speaker 1>wandering around. Um. That will allow you to conduct electricity.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if there are a lot of them. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you have to do next is really dope. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to dope the silicon. Now that means that

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<v Speaker 1>you are introducing impurities or other elder ingredients if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>into the silicon crystal. So you know when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about impurities and usually that has a negative connotation to it,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this case, it's something that's really necessary you

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<v Speaker 1>can put there. Now, there are two different routes to go, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You can put in atoms into You can introduce atoms

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<v Speaker 1>into this mixture that have more electrons in their elder

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<v Speaker 1>shell than silicon does. Now, that's going to introduce extra

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<v Speaker 1>electrons into this crystall instructures. Some electrons that are not

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<v Speaker 1>bonded with other atoms. So that's where you've got these

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<v Speaker 1>free carriers, and then it doesn't take as much energy

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<v Speaker 1>when you introduce energy into the system to break those

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<v Speaker 1>electrons free from the structure. UM, it's still requires energy

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<v Speaker 1>because they're the those electrons are still attracted to the um,

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<v Speaker 1>the positively charged nucleus, but it doesn't take as much

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<v Speaker 1>as if all the atoms were bonded to one another

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<v Speaker 1>with no free electrons. Yeah, if you used, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>phosphorus and uh introduced that to pure silicon, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>they would really hit it off at the party. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, I'm thinking of introducing in a totally different

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<v Speaker 1>way anyway. So if you dope some pure silicon with

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<v Speaker 1>with phosphorus um, you would add you would essentially be

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<v Speaker 1>adding free electrons or source of free electrons, let's say that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would create an end type uh semiconductor and

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<v Speaker 1>meaning negative because again, electrons have a negative charge, so

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<v Speaker 1>you've actually got more of a negative charge than a

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<v Speaker 1>positive charge because you have these extra electrons. Uh. Now, now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to introduce a material that had fewer

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<v Speaker 1>electrons in its outer shell than silicon, you would end

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<v Speaker 1>up with spaces for electrons where no electrons exist. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be a P type of silicon, yes, because you

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<v Speaker 1>would have a space for electrons, but there would be

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<v Speaker 1>no electron to fill that space. Now, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to take these two types of silicon, the N type

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<v Speaker 1>and the P type and put them together, then the

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<v Speaker 1>like the extra electrons from the N type want to

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<v Speaker 1>go and again want being just they tend to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the P type because there's a positive hole there

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<v Speaker 1>and you have the negative charged electrons in the N type.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's this immedia desire to transfer or tendency to transfer.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris is just laughing because I'm adding anthropomorphiz sizing electrons. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>some of my best friends are free carriers. Okay, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to the P type. Oh, man, is too early.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to see the animated version of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Little know, the electrons with little faces drawn on a

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<v Speaker 1>big smile. Hey, so you got a hole there? I

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<v Speaker 1>can feel that. So the uh yeah, there's this tendency

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<v Speaker 1>for the electrons to move across. Well, this creates this

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<v Speaker 1>actually can create a barrier that acts like a diode.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you've listened to our Basic Electronics podcast, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that a diode is this channel that allows electricity

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<v Speaker 1>to flow one way but not back in the other

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<v Speaker 1>directions one way street exactly. And in this case, interestingly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>it will allow electrons to transfer from the PA side

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<v Speaker 1>to the inside, but not the other way around. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so because that's not what they normally want to do, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So now this is where we finally get into introducing

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<v Speaker 1>photons into this system. All right, So you've got this,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the system here where you've got this barrier

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<v Speaker 1>between the N type selicon and the B type cell

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<v Speaker 1>con and you've got the potential for electrons to move

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<v Speaker 1>across this barrier if you introduce energy into the system,

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<v Speaker 1>and the photons are that energy. So when a photon

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<v Speaker 1>of a proper amount of energy strikes the silicon, UH,

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<v Speaker 1>it can create enough energy for the electrons to transfer

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<v Speaker 1>across this barrier. Now, once the electrons cross cross that

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<v Speaker 1>barrier from the P type to the ND type UH,

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<v Speaker 1>they are now in a negatively charged environment, so that

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<v Speaker 1>the tendency is for these electrons to try and get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the positively charged environment, but they can't pass

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<v Speaker 1>that barrier. So if you were to create a pathway

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<v Speaker 1>from the negative side to the positive side. The electrons

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<v Speaker 1>would follow that pathway and do whatever it was you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted them to do if it meant they could get

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<v Speaker 1>to the positive side on the other end. So it's other.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, it's like a really exclusive party and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, Okay, you can come into the party, but

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta carry my stuff into the room with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And people want to get the party, You're like that totally.

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<v Speaker 1>The party is worth it. I will carry your stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of the the analogy I'm going with here.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a party I want to go to tonight. Did

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<v Speaker 1>I mention that anyway? So, so do you do you

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<v Speaker 1>have to power somebody's computer to do it? No? Fortunately not.

0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:21.080
<v Speaker 1>So the electrons will do work along this pathway. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a basic circuit, right, it's a and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it allows current to flow. So photon hits the silicon

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<v Speaker 1>uh and as long as the photon has enough energy

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<v Speaker 1>to break that bond, the electron goes across the barrier,

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<v Speaker 1>wants to get back to the pea side, will go

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<v Speaker 1>through this pathway to get back to the peace side,

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<v Speaker 1>and along the way will do work. So that work

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<v Speaker 1>might be lighting a light bulb. That's the basic example

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<v Speaker 1>that you see in most uh sure drawings. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the basic principle. Now we gotta address a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of other minor points to actually play a big role

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<v Speaker 1>in in y solar cells work and why they aren't

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<v Speaker 1>as um why we don't see them everywhere right now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you mean, like, um, the fact that, well there are

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<v Speaker 1>other components to the solar cells to sure how light

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<v Speaker 1>bounces off stuff like silicon. Right, Silicon tends to be

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<v Speaker 1>very shiny, which means that some photons when they strike

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<v Speaker 1>the surface are just going to reflect off and not

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<v Speaker 1>get absorbed at all, which is a problem. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>not absorbing the energy, then you cannot, um, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough energy for the electrons to break free by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, that that we call that the band gap energy,

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<v Speaker 1>to to break free of that that final electron shell.

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<v Speaker 1>So one problem is that not all photons have the

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<v Speaker 1>same amount of energy because light comes in a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of forms. You know, we talked about the spectrum of light.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you can see light like visible light

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<v Speaker 1>and has a pretty wide spectrum, but even beyond that

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<v Speaker 1>is an even wider spectrum infrared light, ultraviolet light, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know of course all the different colors. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>each of those types of of light have a different

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<v Speaker 1>amount of energy, and if the energy is not sufficient

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<v Speaker 1>to UH to overcome the band gap energy, the electron

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<v Speaker 1>is not going anywhere. So if the energy is more

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<v Speaker 1>than what the band gap needs, that electron will move,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of that energy is wasted. Like for example,

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<v Speaker 1>if I need if I can lift a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ten pounds and there's a weight in front of me

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<v Speaker 1>that's a hundred pounds, I can lift that up. But

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<v Speaker 1>if there are two weights that are a hundred pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still only gonna be able to lift one up.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though I'm capable of lifting over a hundred pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not capable of lifting two hundred pounds. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you get a photon that actually has say twice as

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<v Speaker 1>much energy as the band gap energy, then you could

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<v Speaker 1>actually move to electrons per photon UM. So that's another problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do we get past the reflective problem? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>usually they get around it by putting on some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of material that is an anti reflective property, um, just

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the photons from bouncing away UM. And that

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<v Speaker 1>that's one thing they have to do. They also have

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<v Speaker 1>to put a cover plate on it, you know, glass,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially to keep the solar cell from being damaged. Because

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<v Speaker 1>again we were talking about the solar cells that you

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<v Speaker 1>see the arrays that you see in on rooftops and

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<v Speaker 1>um and for in some instances on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the I see a lot of them on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the road where they have some kind of equipment there, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a sign or something that they want to

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<v Speaker 1>use to uh, you know, to provide messages to people

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<v Speaker 1>who are traveling on the roadway. They'll have a giant

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<v Speaker 1>or not a giant, but a large solar panel out

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<v Speaker 1>there to help power the sign. Um. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting out there all the time, so you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want it to be damaged by the rain or

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<v Speaker 1>or anything. Um, So you know, you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>these other things that are they're going on. But unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>these uh, these solar cells are not particularly efficient. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually there's several reasons why efficiency is a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those is, you know, I mentioned the whole

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<v Speaker 1>band gap energy problem. Whereas one temptation would be to

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<v Speaker 1>build a solar cell that be able to gather as

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<v Speaker 1>many photons as possible. In other words, aim for the

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<v Speaker 1>lowest common denominator, like create material that's going to have

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest band gap energy, so that even weak photons

0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:28.080
<v Speaker 1>would be able to make electrons flow. Well, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>problem with that. Current is that would be the number

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 1>of electrons that move through a system. Right, But there's

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<v Speaker 1>another element called voltage, and and voltage is more like

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to think of it in terms of plumbing,

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>voltage would be the pressure and current would be the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of water um. So voltage and current together, When

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<v Speaker 1>you combine the two together, you get power. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>product of current and voltage. So you mustapply the two

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<v Speaker 1>and you get power. So the power from any system

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be dependent upon the current and the voltage.

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<v Speaker 1>If you use material that has a low band gap energy,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a lower voltage in that system, so you've

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<v Speaker 1>actually decreased the voltage. So the current increases, but the

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>voltage decreases, so the product does not necessarily become enough

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<v Speaker 1>for it to be a good return on investment. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, you could create something that creates has

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<v Speaker 1>more current but a lower voltage, the power is less.

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<v Speaker 1>It does it doesn't do as much work as say,

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<v Speaker 1>materials that have a higher band gap energy, even though

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<v Speaker 1>you've even though you are discounting more photons in that

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.359
<v Speaker 1>in that other system, the photons that are hitting are

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<v Speaker 1>producing more energy. UM. So that's one issue. Although you

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 1>can kind of work around that in a way. You

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<v Speaker 1>can create a multi junction cell. And a multijunction cell

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<v Speaker 1>is uh. You can think of that as layers of

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<v Speaker 1>cells on top of one another, and one layer has

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<v Speaker 1>a certain band gap energy, and then the next one

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<v Speaker 1>has a different band gap energy, and the next one

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<v Speaker 1>has yet another band gap energy. In order to capture

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<v Speaker 1>as many of these photons as possible, and that will

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<v Speaker 1>help a little bit. So that's one way you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it. It's a very expensive thing to do, but

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<v Speaker 1>NASA has been doing it for years. That's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>NASA solar cells tend to be, our multi junction cells

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you want to you want the satellites

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<v Speaker 1>to last a really long time so um, and you

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<v Speaker 1>want them to be very efficient. But that's one problem

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<v Speaker 1>with efficiency. Another is just the design of the solar

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>cells themselves. In order for these electrons to hit a

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.199
<v Speaker 1>pathway a circuit, you know, they have to they have,

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you have to create that pathway for them, and that

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<v Speaker 1>raises some challenges. Where do you put how do you

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 1>create this pathway the top of the solar cell. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to make a conductive layer, right, because I mean

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<v Speaker 1>usually we tend to use metal. Metal is a good conductor.

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<v Speaker 1>Most metals are good conductors. Yeah, and the series resistance

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<v Speaker 1>of silicon is so high that it causes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of loss. Mean, if you're using something like copper, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it would do great. Yeah, but copper doesn't have that

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:09.159
<v Speaker 1>photovoltaic quality. There's the problem. So if you're using metal

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<v Speaker 1>to conduct the electricity, to act as the circuit, to

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<v Speaker 1>act as the pathway for these electrons, um, the question is, well,

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:20.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't really, you can't encase it in metal because

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<v Speaker 1>if you did, then no photons would get through. There

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:25.439
<v Speaker 1>has to be at least one side open. You know,

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you can create some conductive material that is, uh, you can,

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you can weave through the glass. But there's also a

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>concern that you know, photons are these tiny, tiny, tiny particles,

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and even the thinnest metal material that might make up

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>a grid in a solar module, for example, will block

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>some electron photons. Rather which means that you're losing efficiency

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that way. So that's that's one of the reasons why

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>solar panels can have problems with efficiency is that just

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>based on the design itself, in order to conduct those

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>electrons and provide electricity, you're blocking off some of the photons.

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>So you're never going to get a hundred percent efficiency

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 1>because just based on the technology itself, it's blocking its

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>own source of power. That's frustrating. Photons just shake. Yeah,

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>So they've been working on trying other types of materials, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like a morphous silicon, cadmium tell your ide and

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>copper iridium, gallium decelenide. Had some of that the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was delish, But yeah, I mean these are using

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<v Speaker 1>these materials, uh, you know, they've they've been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find some advantages. One of those is that with some

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>of those materials you can create a thinner material, a

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<v Speaker 1>thinner panel or thinnel thinner cell, and they call them

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<v Speaker 1>thin film solar cells. And basically, yeah, these are very

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<v Speaker 1>neat because, um, a lot of the again the arrays

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<v Speaker 1>that we had in our initial example are pretty solid.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't they don't bend, and the thin film solar cells. Yes,

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.919
<v Speaker 1>they do break, but um. Actually a couple of companies

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<v Speaker 1>have found ways to print thin film solar cells by

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<v Speaker 1>spraying and and ink made with these materials onto foil UM,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really cool because uh, it enables it to

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<v Speaker 1>be somewhat flexible, and you can use it in places, uh,

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>these types of solar cells in ways that you wouldn't

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 1>be able to otherwise. UM. Really you could see something

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<v Speaker 1>like this on a handheld calculator because those solar cells,

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, the little itty bitty ones um, are thinner

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<v Speaker 1>than the ones that you see on on rooftops and

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>in different places like that. UM. The thing is they

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<v Speaker 1>they're about fifty efficient at maximum UM, which is more

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<v Speaker 1>likely to be more like fifty efficient UM, which is

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<v Speaker 1>of course also south of the efficiency that they strive

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<v Speaker 1>for with the uh, the silicon based wafer cells, the

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>hard cells. So you know, it's it's they're getting to

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<v Speaker 1>be more of a reality. This is something that's been

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<v Speaker 1>in development for several years now, UM, and they're you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing them in more places. But they also have their drawbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you know there are other drawbacks with

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>solar panels as well. The efficiency is a big one,

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>because the less efficient a solar array is, the more

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>cells you're going to need in order to generate the

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>electricity you want. Right you and in general big areas

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to get a lot of sun. That's that's your prime

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>target for any sort of solar power facility. Um, you know,

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's one thing to put solar cells over the

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>roof of your house, is very difficult to generate enough

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<v Speaker 1>power to actually uh be completely subsist just on on

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<v Speaker 1>solar power. For one thing, if you're if it's if

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you're using the power as soon as it's generated, then

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you're only going to be able to use power during

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the day and on a sunny day at that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna have to have batteries, some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>storage medium in order to h to store power and

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>use it later. And just frankly, I don't think there

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>are that many houses that are have enough efficient solar

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>panels to just rely on solar energy and battery backup. Now,

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>there are some and in fact, I've I've heard stories

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>about people who are still connected to the electricity grid

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>who are using solar power predominantly in their houses and um,

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and in some cases if they generate more electricity than

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>they are consuming, they can actually feed energy back into

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the grid and their power company will compensate them for

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>that much. Is a nice benefit, especially because these solar

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>arrays can be very expensive to install, right And usually

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<v Speaker 1>that only I mean, if you are in the right

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<v Speaker 1>area and you've got the right kind of solar cells,

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<v Speaker 1>then you may actually make enough where you're making money

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>from the power company. But more often it's a reduction

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<v Speaker 1>in your power bill. Like, first of all, your power

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>bill is not gonna be that high anyway, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>mostly relying on the solar cells and the power company

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>is providing whatever amount left over you require. But then

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>occasionally you produce more than what you need, uh, so

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<v Speaker 1>your bill will just be lower at the end. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like your you can recoup your investment overnight

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<v Speaker 1>or over sunny day, right especially. Yeah, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>happen to have a stretch of time where it's just

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>overcast day after day after day, then that those are

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>days when you're not really gonna be producing that much power. Um.

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Not to say that it isn't worthwhile, no, but it

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't expect you know, to make it back

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>up immediately. And another difficulty is that some depending on

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the materials that are going into those solar panels, they

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>may or may not be either rare earth metals, which

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>there there's a whole host of problems. We if you've

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>heard O our podcast on rare earth materials, then you

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>know you know that that has its own host of

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>issues as well. Uh. There's also the possibility of depending

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.959
<v Speaker 1>on again on the material in the solar cell, there

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>may be very toxic material in there, or material that

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>may not it'sself be toxic, but the manufacturing process of

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>that material itself produces toxic toxic materials. So there is

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the potential for solar power to do environmental harm indirectly.

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, the actual production of electricity isn't environmentally destructive,

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>but the process of building those solar panels itself maybe.

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>So you have to look at the big picture and

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<v Speaker 1>the full impact of the system. You can't just look

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<v Speaker 1>at Hey, you know, I'm getting energy from the sun.

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not burning any fossil fuels. Uh, this is clean energy.

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Everything's hunky dorry. You have to look beyond that in

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>order to really consider the impact of the system. Yeah,

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>which you know that mean eventually get to a point

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>where you're looking at it from such a big picture

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that you're thinking there's no solutions out there. Goodnight kids. Well,

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I think, uh, well, we've sort of talked about it

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>another podcast to like the bloom Box and other other things.

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean it's it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where in the long run, I think it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end up being a combination of solutions, you know,

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>to get off of fossil fuels, rather than just a single, uh,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, single one. I think it will probably involve

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>jackostile terriers on a treadmill. It might, and it might

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<v Speaker 1>very well, because as far as I can tell, they

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>have an inexhaustible supply of energy. Yeah, especially if you

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>if you, you know, have a treat at the end

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>of the the little conveyor belt, they'll just run, run, run, anyway,

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that's neither here nor there. Well, that was a great

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>discussion about solar panel technology. I hope that answered your question, Adam. Uh,

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:03.800
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